The difference between traffic lights and roundabouts is that roundabouts are more efficient but lights take up less space. This makes lights a viable option when you need to reduce traffic in a space that is too crowded with buildings to fit a roundabout. That dark blue route that was to small to fit a roundabout was a perfect example for traffic lights
Most of the time nothing is better than lights and in general they should never be picked over anything else, it reduces time for the green lights side but increases for the red making times more unstable. Apparently they buffed them but they're still trash tier and only usefully in areas that have a really high level on congestion which should never happen anyway.
@@1988ryan1 if there's one main path with a less used one hooked up to it the majority of people will see a decrease in the time it takes to get to their job. Especially since the cars always slow down at intersections. Unless there's a light.
@@jarjab2games The use case for them is still niche though and less impactfull than other options, they do have atleast some value now after the buff but still not enough to pick them, literally all of the other options given are better to choose.
If there is too much traffic in an area, slowing it down is most likely going to cost you the game. It would be better to move the roads around. EDIT: Just like 18:10
Once in a while it might be helpful to just DELETE EVERYTHING and insert a more planned layout. And don't be afraid to use extra road to fill spaces you don't want things to spawn in
The problem with that is that any cars still on the road will prevent you from getting your tiles back to actually build what you want. I've had game overs because i attempted to shorten a road to get more tiles but didn't get the tiles back into my inventory fast enough to actually use them
Its never a good idea to delete everything, section the map if you are gonna reorganise stuff. Ideally you should plan ahead but the game sometimes has other ideas
In early game you can do this but as the game map gets more crowded it becomes very hard to do this. I've tried and the cars are just two slow driving over deleted roads.
If you have the space and the tiles to plan a detour for the time period when the cars are all still coming across the old road this works, but highways get finicky and replacing them isn't really feasible past 1.5k trips. Of course, if you have a spare highway, that generally takes care of the issue as long as you have a place to connect it to the houses while you wait for the old one to disappear. Less is more sometimes, I like to pop-in houses to existing networks to control demand without actually removing the main roads (unless it's absolutely necessary). Happy day, got my first score over 15,000 trips this morning :D
I would like to throw my hat in the ring for good tips: Tip 1: Control Spawns. Use your excess roads to prevent supermarkets and houses from appearing in places you don't want them to. Also, its generally a good idea to place roads in one-tile gaps to make sure that you can funnel a road through that intersection later without it possibly getting blocked. Unlike people are stating in the comments, THIS IS NOT A BUG. This is an intentional mechanic to make sure that you can't get screwed over by some bad placement RNG, and really its just to make things in general a bit less messy. Tip 2: Segregate Colors AND Businesses. You have a decent grasp of the first concept, but not much of the other one. The delivery nodes aren't queued by houses, they're just nodes that are created by the supermarkets themselves. This means that sometimes, its way better to COMPLETELY segregate off say 2 houses just for a single supermarket, or 4 or 5 for a cinema, rather than combine all the houses for all the businesses on one road. Note, that the number of houses required increases with distance traveled, but you get a general feel for how many you need when you play the game more. Tip 3: Motorways. I think the general consensus from gameplay I've seen from other players is that you ALWAYS take motorways. They can act as a bridge in a pinch, and are basically an infinitely long road. Using these motorways is generally divided between necessity and luxury (necessity is that there is NO way for a business to be fed without one, where as luxury denotes that it only speeds up deliveries, although there is somewhat viable alternative routes.) Luxury motorways can generally be removed and repurposed if need be. That being said, its not all about motorways, especially later in the game when you get introduced to new terrain types. Tip 4: Neighborhoods. You should understand this one, being a highway engineer. When it comes to neighborhoods, you want to feed them into an arterial road rather than make the neighborhood an arterial road. This helps to improve congestion on multi color roads. Tip 5: Control the flow. Controlling the flow is really only applicable in scenarios where more than one color is on a road. Lets take this game for example, with the area using the yellow supermarket with a light blue cinema. Ideally, the way you want to approach this is instead of doing what you did, you want one color coming in from each side of the zone, rather than both colors coming in from one specific side. DO NOT make traffic flow through parking lots. It makes parking lots incredibly slow and congested, so doing the above makes them much more feasible. These are all my quick tips for the game. I know that when I started playing this game, the most I could ever hammer out is around 1000 trips. Following these tips however, it was plausible for me to reach 5000, and I think with better reinforcement of these methods it would be possible to get way higher scores.
I know it's been a year since you commented this, but would you mind explaining Tip 4 more? What does it mean to feed neighborhoods into an arterial road? Does that mean group up the houses and give them one shoot onto the main road, or lots of little shoots onto the main road?
@@ReaGool09 this basically means that mean many cars are clustered and you have to make kinda a conjugation idk so you prevent traffic. This is what I’m getting from him I’m also not that sure😅
@@ReaGool09 The arterial road is basically the main road. So instead of feeding each house straight on you would make a little neighborhood and connect the whole thing in at once.
I'd like to see him pause everything once the crazy starts, clear the whole map, and redraw the roads I think that may be the trick to fixing getting stuck like that
I've done this before but it's a huge gamble, especially the more infrastructure you're moving around. Because you don't get your items back until they disappear from the map, which means no bridges, motorways, roundabouts, or road tiles till the car's journeys are complete. It can fix congestion, but it effectively resets the journey's so i'd advise not doing this if you have many buildings with too many journeys to be made. However; redoing the map in sections can really help end game congestion. my highest score is something like 1,700+ and i average about 1,400-1,500 so depending on how well you do, this can help get higher. i mostly struggle with my junction efficiency, but tmk that's a common problem.
Simple logic in this game luckily, no light so the drivers drive slowly and look, green light when they approach means they do not have to “look” anymore and just go quick.
@@prekatori I've seen it work in two different situations, a very low traffic road that has to cross a high traffic road, and two high traffic roads that have to cross each other. In the latter case, the traffic piles up, but the light logic seems to work so that it allows the traffic in one direction to clear entirely, then the light changes, and then the other direction clears entirely. Based on my testing, you can actually feed two circle destinations through that kind of intersection with lights. The cars just arrive at the destination in bursts instead of steadily over time.
I hardly ever use roundabouts. Because I try to avoid roads intersecting at all costs. Roundabouts are better than traffic lights if you can fit them in, but not having a junction there at all is better than both!
Early in the game you usually have a bunch of road tiles and small map, so I don't know if anybody does that, but you can somewhat control where you want houses to spawn by placing road tiles where you do not want any spawns occur. Hint - put road tiles behind already spawned houses, so you don't have to do these big loops to connect them to neighborhood.
Yea I put down roads to block new offices being built where I don't want them as well, and to stop houses being built out of reach. I also feed houses into the same square wherever possible because I think having them spread along a road slows everyone down.
You do have to be careful with this though, 'cause the game punishes you by reducing the time before a new marker appears on buildings if you push it too far.
Man I really like this dude and his commentary, “that looks like brioche on top of the supermarket, now we just need the ham colored supermarkets and we can mix and match!” (This is not an exact quote, but it conveys the same main message. He’s really funny and it’s editited in a way where it’s not boring to watch).Overall fantastic job!
Traffic lights have helped traffic flow when my motorways get more spaghetti and harder to segregate. Forcing traffic from a stop sign mentality to traffic lights actually saved my run for another 500 trips. Then 8 different places pinged and I had an overload of not knowing what to do to fix it.
@@monad_tcp if you can get to 10k and stabilize it’ll actually stop generating I believe, meaning you can actually just leave it and get whatever score you like. (Or at least that’s how it works for now, they’ll probably change it soon
Man, watching you panic and fall apart is a hilariously good time! By the way, if you want to know how to break 5k in MM, you're almost there. You have the right idea, but you haven't taken it to the proper conclusion: You don't segregate by color. You segregate by destination. It doesn't matter if you have two red destinations in similar places on the map - EACH should have its own housing cluster feeding it on its OWN LINE. This is very meta, but, the way this game works is the game will spawn a pip and the closest house to that pip will respond - simple, right? Wrong. See, if you have two houses that can feed a supermarket perfectly fine, but a pip spawns while all 4 cars are on the road for any reason, it will reach out to the next house in the chain. By doing so that makes the cars that are returning now "free" to go to other pip requests on the road - EVEN IF THEY ARE MUCH FARTHER AWAY. This causes inconsistent traffic and is why you can have a housing cluster of 8 houses unable to feed one IMAX that's on the same line - because cars from other houses are all driving there or are on the road, or worse on their way back. Ideally, you want a housing "cluster" of 8 houses all with driveways facing each other (making a *) with a motorway out directly to an IMAX, while local traffics are belt-fed individually to each destination. Don't just split the colors, split the destinations. Traffic lights Vs. Roundabouts - Ultimately you will ideally have NEITHER of these used in your city. With that said both can be used early game: Traffic lights are BEST used when you have one HEAVY line of traffic and one LIGHT line of traffic. For example if you are forced to create an intersection with 2 houses feeding a market against a line of 4 houses feeding a cinema. Because the cross traffic is infrequent, the traffic light can keep both moving at nearly full speed. The SECOND use for a Traffic Light is when you have a house that is placed directly on the street creating a crossroad (all traffic slows down at crossroads, so you want to have as few of these as possible) and you have no space to turn it to get it off the road. Putting a traffic light there allows cars to drive at full speed without slowing down as they pass the house. Roundabouts are interesting in Mini Motorways - Roundabouts, unlike Traffic lights, are able to handle medium traffic. You use these for two reasons - 1 to control the spawns of businesses and houses (as they take up 9 squares each), 2 to filter traffic to destinations. You should NEVER build a roundabout when there is going to be heavy traffic, let alone cross traffic. Roundabouts in this game get choked up when cars are in it, and that causes EVERY SINGLE OTHER CAR trying to get into the roundabout to STOP AND WAIT for the congestion to clear. TLDR - Segregate by destination, not color. Group your houses into ONE driveway if possible (as cars only slow down at intersections). Motorways are life - Feed them DIRECTLY from a housing cluster to an IMAX. Always feed a destination by the closest housing group possible (as the game progresses newer houses may spawn closer). Good luck!
The other element of segregation you are missing is segregation of houses for specific jobs. Instead of all of 1 color being connected, you should try to only connect the houses to their specific place of work. Keep each shop satisfied and connect additional houses elsewhere
Traffic lights are good in really crowded junctions. They usually clog and 1 car can sit there entire week. Traffic lights are usless early game but if you pay attention to crowded junctions, you can see the traffic jam and you should use traffic lights there. Hope this helps :)
I wondered if I was gonna get burnt out on your commentary style after watching so many videos, then you started talking about brioche and I realised *nope this is still great*.
Ahh yes, Shutting down the whole city that have been paid about $10million dollars for road because that only one dude that came to the IMAX cinema late.
Sometimes I forget your videos are edited, timing is so smooth! Great commentary, great editing, and super soothing voice. It's like you decided to make ASMR funny. Love this series, finally decided to subscribe 😁
I feel like traffic lights are for when you need to "cross the streams" so to speak. You maintain color separation, but you can still cross independent lines.
I was talking with a friend, about theoretical engineer paradise: for even the smallest ditch a bridge is made to cross it, buildings are function first, and the roads are unconnected. It would be beautiful.
Segregation of colors isn't all that you can do... Youcan fully even segregate malls of same color Basically every supermarket has it's own set of houses (and then you can do switcharoo with same colored houses if you need to direct traffic to one mall or the other)
A tip: If you get a group of the same colour house, divide/seperate them so some of them will go to other shopping mall and make sure they dont go on the same road tiles. Also you can change the direction of the house
Of course this gets onto trending, this game is incredibly incredibly fun to watch because it's different EVERY time. Plus your commentary and gameplay strategies make it incredibly fun to watch and listen too, I really enjoy watching you play this so please do play more!
I love how you call these buildings supermarkets and cinemas, but there actually are just skyscrapers (look at the shadow) edit: but please still cal them supermarkets and imax cinemas
Offices and Skyscrapers I believe. And agree keep calling them supermarkets! The logic is the buildings need office workers but the residents don't necessarily need jobs. Which is a nice world to live in :P
Motorways stay in place temporarily while you move them. You can double or even triple the amount of motorways you are using by pausing and moving them frequently
If you have one motorway, and you place it, and then a car is using it, and you delete and try to place that same motorway again elsewhere, it doesn't let you - the ghost one is still "real" until the car that needed it completes its trip, then the motorway goes back in your inventory and you can place it someplace new... it works exactly the same with bridges and in fact all road tiles.
Just some advices: 1/You have to put limit to houses that means no open roads in front of them. Just groups of 4 to 6 houses straight to their defined supermarket. 2/If you let open roads in front of houses, even if they have the same color, and let them a choice of going left or right, they are going to make a mess and you will have congestion. 3/Be simple and do not be affraid to pause and think it out. It may be longer but it will pay on the long run. 4/This game is not as realistic as your engineer brain thinks and you can always add/delete roads on the go. 5/Keep this series going! I love it! Cheers
I like that the logic of this game is that the people in the houses revolve their shopping habits around what the shops tell them to as opposed to the shops being the ones having to keep up with customer demand
I just realized what this reminded me of: rampancy. Things gets more and more complex as space gets used, linkages get formed and severed in an attempt at efficiency until you get a critical system failure.
I think the biggest next step up is counting houses and splitting further. Like 1-2 houses for a square and 3-4 houses for a circle with more needed for traffic / later game.
12:35 Technically, if city code will allow it, building your house underneath a road like that would save you ALOT on your electricity bill, especially in a place like Arizona. Shade in the shade
The only use I've seen for traffic lights is when you have to have a 4-way intersection and don't have room for a roundabout. But even then, you're better off trying to avoid a 4-way intersection anyways.
3:35 We sell the exact same thing as the other supermarket but we charge 30% more because we're further away and you'll think it's better because it cost more! A win win!
Near the end you had a huge yellow development next to the failing market but used a motorway to take another reflow development across town. In that instance it's better to redo the roads completely. For the markets you really only need 2 or 3 houses and the rest could have been directed to the other 2 yellow markets they were connected to.
Traffic light is useful sometimes. It's like 1/3 efficiency of roundabout when there is crossroad You can segregate between the same color too. Like your start, you could actually split the load of 1 red house for 1 store, and another 2 for another store
Traffic lights are actually really efficient when u intentionally make a crossroads . Three advantage they have over roundabouts are roundabouts can get cluttered when many things r connected to it but traffuc lights will always let atleast some of the vehicles. You can also put them in much more narrow spaces add you get multiple of them when u get them.
My great grandfather worked on the captain William more bridge in Skagway Alaska years back, it's a (small) asymmetrical suspension bridge :) you really gave me an appreciation for bridge construction
I bought the game last night after watching all your Mini Motorways videos and watching all of your City Skylines videos and took a bunch of notes - managed to get to 2203 points on the first level first try!
Traffic lights seem to help out in areas too small and low traffic for roundabouts, and their performance is pretty constant while roundabouts break down under high traffic.
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Another tactic that could have solved issues would be to segregate the individual colours to only carry out trips to certain Malls/Cinemas/thingys; having all of the same colour connected means a yellow (for example) from one side of the map may make a journey to the other side of the map when there is mall right next to it just because it was free when the demand was raised. Being more specific in which houses you want to travel to each location helps avoid this and free up space.
Traffic lights are helpful to actually reduce congestion at 4 way intersections. If you pay close attention all cars will slow way down when nearing a 4 way intersection before proceeding no matter if there is traffic or not, but once you place a traffic light if their way is green they will speed through it!
This. It's very subtle but the game creators really nailed it, there is a slight slowing as if the car is checking to make sure it's clear. I tend to set up offset 3-way intersections when I can, to avoid this. Using the parking lot of a double-lot as a passthrough is also not ideal if you can put a plain road alongside - the cars that are just passing through do go slower, just as you would have to in a real parking lot.
Traffic lights help, when there is a crossroad, where two the crossing roads aren't frequently used. The more used road is permanently green then and the cars don't have to slow down.
Traffic lights are good early game, when there isn’t too much traffic, roundabouts are good late game when there is lots of congestion, keep in mind, when you get the traffic light upgrade, you get 2 of them, instead of receiving 1 for the roundabout upgrade
The difference between traffic lights and roundabouts is that roundabouts are more efficient but lights take up less space. This makes lights a viable option when you need to reduce traffic in a space that is too crowded with buildings to fit a roundabout. That dark blue route that was to small to fit a roundabout was a perfect example for traffic lights
Most of the time nothing is better than lights and in general they should never be picked over anything else, it reduces time for the green lights side but increases for the red making times more unstable. Apparently they buffed them but they're still trash tier and only usefully in areas that have a really high level on congestion which should never happen anyway.
@@1988ryan1 if there's one main path with a less used one hooked up to it the majority of people will see a decrease in the time it takes to get to their job. Especially since the cars always slow down at intersections. Unless there's a light.
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They buff them by giving you a second light.
@@jarjab2games The use case for them is still niche though and less impactfull than other options, they do have atleast some value now after the buff but still not enough to pick them, literally all of the other options given are better to choose.
If there is too much traffic in an area, slowing it down is most likely going to cost you the game. It would be better to move the roads around. EDIT: Just like 18:10
Once in a while it might be helpful to just DELETE EVERYTHING and insert a more planned layout. And don't be afraid to use extra road to fill spaces you don't want things to spawn in
The problem with that is that any cars still on the road will prevent you from getting your tiles back to actually build what you want. I've had game overs because i attempted to shorten a road to get more tiles but didn't get the tiles back into my inventory fast enough to actually use them
I tried to say this last episode
Its never a good idea to delete everything, section the map if you are gonna reorganise stuff. Ideally you should plan ahead but the game sometimes has other ideas
In early game you can do this but as the game map gets more crowded it becomes very hard to do this. I've tried and the cars are just two slow driving over deleted roads.
If you have the space and the tiles to plan a detour for the time period when the cars are all still coming across the old road this works, but highways get finicky and replacing them isn't really feasible past 1.5k trips. Of course, if you have a spare highway, that generally takes care of the issue as long as you have a place to connect it to the houses while you wait for the old one to disappear. Less is more sometimes, I like to pop-in houses to existing networks to control demand without actually removing the main roads (unless it's absolutely necessary). Happy day, got my first score over 15,000 trips this morning :D
I would like to throw my hat in the ring for good tips:
Tip 1: Control Spawns. Use your excess roads to prevent supermarkets and houses from appearing in places you don't want them to. Also, its generally a good idea to place roads in one-tile gaps to make sure that you can funnel a road through that intersection later without it possibly getting blocked. Unlike people are stating in the comments, THIS IS NOT A BUG. This is an intentional mechanic to make sure that you can't get screwed over by some bad placement RNG, and really its just to make things in general a bit less messy.
Tip 2: Segregate Colors AND Businesses. You have a decent grasp of the first concept, but not much of the other one. The delivery nodes aren't queued by houses, they're just nodes that are created by the supermarkets themselves. This means that sometimes, its way better to COMPLETELY segregate off say 2 houses just for a single supermarket, or 4 or 5 for a cinema, rather than combine all the houses for all the businesses on one road. Note, that the number of houses required increases with distance traveled, but you get a general feel for how many you need when you play the game more.
Tip 3: Motorways. I think the general consensus from gameplay I've seen from other players is that you ALWAYS take motorways. They can act as a bridge in a pinch, and are basically an infinitely long road. Using these motorways is generally divided between necessity and luxury (necessity is that there is NO way for a business to be fed without one, where as luxury denotes that it only speeds up deliveries, although there is somewhat viable alternative routes.) Luxury motorways can generally be removed and repurposed if need be. That being said, its not all about motorways, especially later in the game when you get introduced to new terrain types.
Tip 4: Neighborhoods. You should understand this one, being a highway engineer. When it comes to neighborhoods, you want to feed them into an arterial road rather than make the neighborhood an arterial road. This helps to improve congestion on multi color roads.
Tip 5: Control the flow. Controlling the flow is really only applicable in scenarios where more than one color is on a road. Lets take this game for example, with the area using the yellow supermarket with a light blue cinema. Ideally, the way you want to approach this is instead of doing what you did, you want one color coming in from each side of the zone, rather than both colors coming in from one specific side. DO NOT make traffic flow through parking lots. It makes parking lots incredibly slow and congested, so doing the above makes them much more feasible.
These are all my quick tips for the game. I know that when I started playing this game, the most I could ever hammer out is around 1000 trips. Following these tips however, it was plausible for me to reach 5000, and I think with better reinforcement of these methods it would be possible to get way higher scores.
I know it's been a year since you commented this, but would you mind explaining Tip 4 more? What does it mean to feed neighborhoods into an arterial road? Does that mean group up the houses and give them one shoot onto the main road, or lots of little shoots onto the main road?
@@ReaGool09 this basically means that mean many cars are clustered and you have to make kinda a conjugation idk so you prevent traffic. This is what I’m getting from him I’m also not that sure😅
@@ReaGool09 The arterial road is basically the main road. So instead of feeding each house straight on you would make a little neighborhood and connect the whole thing in at once.
@@Froggy_Gal Thanks!
5 is actually helpful ! thank you :)
I'd like to see him pause everything once the crazy starts, clear the whole map, and redraw the roads
I think that may be the trick to fixing getting stuck like that
I've done this before but it's a huge gamble, especially the more infrastructure you're moving around. Because you don't get your items back until they disappear from the map, which means no bridges, motorways, roundabouts, or road tiles till the car's journeys are complete. It can fix congestion, but it effectively resets the journey's so i'd advise not doing this if you have many buildings with too many journeys to be made.
However; redoing the map in sections can really help end game congestion. my highest score is something like 1,700+ and i average about 1,400-1,500 so depending on how well you do, this can help get higher. i mostly struggle with my junction efficiency, but tmk that's a common problem.
Traffic lights CAN be useful on crossroad junctions when you’ve run out of roundabouts, they reduce lengthy congestion with short bursts of hold up
Simple logic in this game luckily, no light so the drivers drive slowly and look, green light when they approach means they do not have to “look” anymore and just go quick.
They're also more space efficient than roundabouts.
Useful for crossroads and T-junctions in tight spaces.
I feel like they are only useful when one of the roads is nearly unused, if there is a car every few seconds then the main road has red too often
@@prekatori I've seen it work in two different situations, a very low traffic road that has to cross a high traffic road, and two high traffic roads that have to cross each other. In the latter case, the traffic piles up, but the light logic seems to work so that it allows the traffic in one direction to clear entirely, then the light changes, and then the other direction clears entirely. Based on my testing, you can actually feed two circle destinations through that kind of intersection with lights. The cars just arrive at the destination in bursts instead of steadily over time.
I thought I could choose the direction to prioritise but last I played I couldn't and a single traffic light killed my city of 3000+ journeys
Alternate title: "Man yells about how roundabouts are superior for 20 minutes but only uses 1"
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I hardly ever use roundabouts. Because I try to avoid roads intersecting at all costs.
Roundabouts are better than traffic lights if you can fit them in, but not having a junction there at all is better than both!
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@@theCometPM about smart stuff I can’t understand
Early in the game you usually have a bunch of road tiles and small map, so I don't know if anybody does that, but you can somewhat control where you want houses to spawn by placing road tiles where you do not want any spawns occur. Hint - put road tiles behind already spawned houses, so you don't have to do these big loops to connect them to neighborhood.
Yea I put down roads to block new offices being built where I don't want them as well, and to stop houses being built out of reach. I also feed houses into the same square wherever possible because I think having them spread along a road slows everyone down.
kind of ruins the fun and a large part of the problem solving imo
Wow I literally just made the same comment 😂
Aliensrock/Tyler has used this technic btw
You do have to be careful with this though, 'cause the game punishes you by reducing the time before a new marker appears on buildings if you push it too far.
Man I really like this dude and his commentary, “that looks like brioche on top of the supermarket, now we just need the ham colored supermarkets and we can mix and match!” (This is not an exact quote, but it conveys the same main message. He’s really funny and it’s editited in a way where it’s not boring to watch).Overall fantastic job!
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@@lucassm21 thank you for your information! It was very helpful!
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Traffic lights have helped traffic flow when my motorways get more spaghetti and harder to segregate. Forcing traffic from a stop sign mentality to traffic lights actually saved my run for another 500 trips. Then 8 different places pinged and I had an overload of not knowing what to do to fix it.
the next step is learning to control spawn points by blocking them with roads, I can keep going until 10.000 trips, got a 3rd place once
@@monad_tcp if you can get to 10k and stabilize it’ll actually stop generating I believe, meaning you can actually just leave it and get whatever score you like. (Or at least that’s how it works for now, they’ll probably change it soon
@@monad_tcp that ruins the fun though
Man, watching you panic and fall apart is a hilariously good time!
By the way, if you want to know how to break 5k in MM, you're almost there. You have the right idea, but you haven't taken it to the proper conclusion:
You don't segregate by color. You segregate by destination. It doesn't matter if you have two red destinations in similar places on the map - EACH should have its own housing cluster feeding it on its OWN LINE.
This is very meta, but, the way this game works is the game will spawn a pip and the closest house to that pip will respond - simple, right? Wrong. See, if you have two houses that can feed a supermarket perfectly fine, but a pip spawns while all 4 cars are on the road for any reason, it will reach out to the next house in the chain. By doing so that makes the cars that are returning now "free" to go to other pip requests on the road - EVEN IF THEY ARE MUCH FARTHER AWAY. This causes inconsistent traffic and is why you can have a housing cluster of 8 houses unable to feed one IMAX that's on the same line - because cars from other houses are all driving there or are on the road, or worse on their way back.
Ideally, you want a housing "cluster" of 8 houses all with driveways facing each other (making a *) with a motorway out directly to an IMAX, while local traffics are belt-fed individually to each destination. Don't just split the colors, split the destinations.
Traffic lights Vs. Roundabouts - Ultimately you will ideally have NEITHER of these used in your city. With that said both can be used early game: Traffic lights are BEST used when you have one HEAVY line of traffic and one LIGHT line of traffic. For example if you are forced to create an intersection with 2 houses feeding a market against a line of 4 houses feeding a cinema. Because the cross traffic is infrequent, the traffic light can keep both moving at nearly full speed. The SECOND use for a Traffic Light is when you have a house that is placed directly on the street creating a crossroad (all traffic slows down at crossroads, so you want to have as few of these as possible) and you have no space to turn it to get it off the road. Putting a traffic light there allows cars to drive at full speed without slowing down as they pass the house.
Roundabouts are interesting in Mini Motorways - Roundabouts, unlike Traffic lights, are able to handle medium traffic. You use these for two reasons - 1 to control the spawns of businesses and houses (as they take up 9 squares each), 2 to filter traffic to destinations. You should NEVER build a roundabout when there is going to be heavy traffic, let alone cross traffic. Roundabouts in this game get choked up when cars are in it, and that causes EVERY SINGLE OTHER CAR trying to get into the roundabout to STOP AND WAIT for the congestion to clear.
TLDR - Segregate by destination, not color. Group your houses into ONE driveway if possible (as cars only slow down at intersections). Motorways are life - Feed them DIRECTLY from a housing cluster to an IMAX. Always feed a destination by the closest housing group possible (as the game progresses newer houses may spawn closer).
Good luck!
my dude just wrote his whole life story without any noticable spelling/grammar errors
@@waterbomb9937 LOL
I love how he calls each color something completely different than what he last called it every few sentences.
"Is segregation good?"
Depends, in society? No
In roadworks? Yes
@Brethor shhhh just let me be wrong
Good in society. America and Japan is all the evidence ya need
@@MrSinister718 pfft
@@petermarsella6537 what did they say??
You just reinvented subways
You are possibly the best man to play this.
Sadly he isn't too good at it :/
Yes.
pewdiepie played it in a livestream yesterday too
yes let's get him to 1 mil subs he deserves it
@@DustyyBoi Who cares as long as it's entertaining?
The other element of segregation you are missing is segregation of houses for specific jobs. Instead of all of 1 color being connected, you should try to only connect the houses to their specific place of work. Keep each shop satisfied and connect additional houses elsewhere
Traffic lights do help minimally, they're slightly better than a regular intersection but any other option is better
Your profile pic is the shape of the supermarkets, you must be a big fan of the game!
@@RealCivilEngineerGaming now that you mention it it does look a bit like that even if it wasn't intentional 😋
@@exquisitetoast3859 The perfect engineer
@@RealCivilEngineerGaming use traffic lights or suffer to the consequences
Can't wait for my local Tesco to turn into an Imax cinema.
Epic!!
That made me die in laughter lol 😂
Traffic lights are good in really crowded junctions. They usually clog and 1 car can sit there entire week. Traffic lights are usless early game but if you pay attention to crowded junctions, you can see the traffic jam and you should use traffic lights there. Hope this helps :)
This is quality. Very rare to see youtubers playing games like this and actually understand what’s happening. Plus the commentary is simply perfect.
Mini motorways: I am the most addictive to real civil engineer
Minecraft: For now…
Minecraft doesn't have physcis though, no point in building support for structures when they do nothing
@@dscarmo True
@@dscarmo But it looks better.
@@dscarmo Cough Cough Redstone Cough Cough
@@dscarmo you can mod in more realistic physics
I love how he changed it form "using segregation" to "using segregated highways"
He just reinvented subways
I wondered if I was gonna get burnt out on your commentary style after watching so many videos, then you started talking about brioche and I realised *nope this is still great*.
Civil engineers should try the strategy of building road ‘X’s in real life so they can control where houses are built
Ahh yes, Shutting down the whole city that have been paid about $10million dollars for road because that only one dude that came to the IMAX cinema late.
Sometimes I forget your videos are edited, timing is so smooth! Great commentary, great editing, and super soothing voice. It's like you decided to make ASMR funny. Love this series, finally decided to subscribe 😁
Thanks, very kind comments haha
I feel like traffic lights are for when you need to "cross the streams" so to speak. You maintain color separation, but you can still cross independent lines.
I love this series, I watch it everyone morning before school. I start school tomorrow and hope to get back into watching your videos.
This channel strikes me as one that will have millions of subs in a year or two
absolutely
Agreed
Yes
You were right
I was talking with a friend, about theoretical engineer paradise: for even the smallest ditch a bridge is made to cross it, buildings are function first, and the roads are unconnected. It would be beautiful.
Segregation of colors isn't all that you can do... Youcan fully even segregate malls of same color
Basically every supermarket has it's own set of houses (and then you can do switcharoo with same colored houses if you need to direct traffic to one mall or the other)
Your voice is like a lullaby I swear I almost fall asleep every time I watch, not from boredom however
A tip: If you get a group of the same colour house, divide/seperate them so some of them will go to other shopping mall and make sure they dont go on the same road tiles. Also you can change the direction of the house
I appreciate that you care about the well-being of the people in the houses, the sizes of their yards, their gardens, etc.
You should do a mini motorway competition against other youtubers like: aliensrock, blitz, dangerouslyfunny etc.
Oh god we NEED to see RCE competing with DF and Lets Game It Out
Kan did a Mini Motorways video and mentioned RCE in it. Could be good?
And Drawing Dead.
Yes!!!
That's a great idea!
Of course this gets onto trending, this game is incredibly incredibly fun to watch because it's different EVERY time. Plus your commentary and gameplay strategies make it incredibly fun to watch and listen too, I really enjoy watching you play this so please do play more!
"peace, love and motorways", you sound like mumbo jumbo in the new season of hermitcraft, lol
Every time he says “peace love and” my brain automatically fills in the word plants and I’m surprised to hear “motorways” instead!😂
"I did worse that a very soft pp." - Real civil engineer 2021
“Hello, fellow engineer” is how I will greet anyone from now on.
Truth: you've been bingeing on this series for the past hour or so.
Absolutely loving your content and commentary!
I love how you call these buildings supermarkets and cinemas, but there actually are just skyscrapers (look at the shadow)
edit: but please still cal them supermarkets and imax cinemas
Offices and Skyscrapers I believe. And agree keep calling them supermarkets! The logic is the buildings need office workers but the residents don't necessarily need jobs. Which is a nice world to live in :P
They’re factories!
@@radish6691 I don't think factories would be this tall
Might have been warehouse and skyscraper I forget already. It was said in the tutorial though :)
@@diaxovy Maybe they're giraffe factories?
Something about your videos and your voice playing this game has just been beyond calming, like a nice little meditation idk why, but now im addicted
Motorways stay in place temporarily while you move them. You can double or even triple the amount of motorways you are using by pausing and moving them frequently
If you have one motorway, and you place it, and then a car is using it, and you delete and try to place that same motorway again elsewhere, it doesn't let you - the ghost one is still "real" until the car that needed it completes its trip, then the motorway goes back in your inventory and you can place it someplace new... it works exactly the same with bridges and in fact all road tiles.
Just some advices:
1/You have to put limit to houses that means no open roads in front of them. Just groups of 4 to 6 houses straight to their defined supermarket.
2/If you let open roads in front of houses, even if they have the same color, and let them a choice of going left or right, they are going to make a mess and you will have congestion.
3/Be simple and do not be affraid to pause and think it out. It may be longer but it will pay on the long run.
4/This game is not as realistic as your engineer brain thinks and you can always add/delete roads on the go.
5/Keep this series going! I love it!
Cheers
Your pronunciation of Tanzania is a first. Never heard that one before!
I was always gonna make an idiot of myself somehow haha
its the 2nd time ever I have heard it pronounced like this 😆
@@RealCivilEngineerGaming Just pretend it was deliberate and you're fine!
@@swedishkarhu it's the British pronunciation of it I'll have you know!!
I thought it was *tan* za *ni* a
I like that the logic of this game is that the people in the houses revolve their shopping habits around what the shops tell them to as opposed to the shops being the ones having to keep up with customer demand
Thank you for introducing this game to me. I was immediately hooked.
Your videos help me sleep. I just put then on play and listen to them while trying to fall asleep because your voice is so soothing
Hey look, you went almost an entire video without any reference to the strongest shape but there it was at the very end. You just can't escape it!
I qas getting worried
What shape?
its also a reference to a notation in music
@@WithYouIDisagree the person he was 1 rank under has the strongest shape in his name
RCE: “Hello fellow engineers!”
Me: Maybe…I am an engineer…
RCE!! im loving your channel, just found you recently and im definitely gonna stay here for the ride. Keep at it man :D
Watching you has forced me to get this game and helped me a lot. All I know is segregation of colors and buildings is key and motorway is precious.
PIKACHU, USE SEGREGATION!
IT WAS VERY EFFECTIVE
A favorite of houses that I've found is "What's the most isolated place I can go?" Really like to do this when I can't destroy trees!
“Peace, Love And Motorways”, would actually be a really good episode title
(Simplicity has a charm of its own)
I don’t know why but watching you play this game is the most satisfying thing to watch.
Finally, been waiting for this!
sooooo true!
I just realized what this reminded me of: rampancy. Things gets more and more complex as space gets used, linkages get formed and severed in an attempt at efficiency until you get a critical system failure.
I didn’t know this guy before but every time i see one of these I immediately click.
I think the biggest next step up is counting houses and splitting further. Like 1-2 houses for a square and 3-4 houses for a circle with more needed for traffic / later game.
Traffic lights good when you dont have room for a roundabout
12:35 Technically, if city code will allow it, building your house underneath a road like that would save you ALOT on your electricity bill, especially in a place like Arizona. Shade in the shade
The only use I've seen for traffic lights is when you have to have a 4-way intersection and don't have room for a roundabout. But even then, you're better off trying to avoid a 4-way intersection anyways.
3:35 We sell the exact same thing as the other supermarket but we charge 30% more because we're further away and you'll think it's better because it cost more! A win win!
Near the end you had a huge yellow development next to the failing market but used a motorway to take another reflow development across town.
In that instance it's better to redo the roads completely. For the markets you really only need 2 or 3 houses and the rest could have been directed to the other 2 yellow markets they were connected to.
Traffic light is useful sometimes. It's like 1/3 efficiency of roundabout when there is crossroad
You can segregate between the same color too. Like your start, you could actually split the load of 1 red house for 1 store, and another 2 for another store
"I hope you guys like each other" had me screaming lol
why is this so entertaining? Like it's a game about highways
"This would make a fantastic series"
the way he was just like tan-zaaaaayyy-kneee-ahhhh
The out of context complications are going to be the most cursed things ever
That trending thing really gives a big boost, I'm pretty sure I found your channel because of that
I got Apple Arcade just to play this!!! I love this game
Thanks for teh comment! You said this and I was like wait... I have Apple Arcade! And I just got it.
Racial segregation in video games is a growing danger
"VIDEO GAMES CAUSE VIOLENCE"
love this game keep up the work
Traffic lights are actually really efficient when u intentionally make a crossroads . Three advantage they have over roundabouts are roundabouts can get cluttered when many things r connected to it but traffuc lights will always let atleast some of the vehicles. You can also put them in much more narrow spaces add you get multiple of them when u get them.
But why would you shoot yourself in the leg and intentionally build a crossroad
My great grandfather worked on the captain William more bridge in Skagway Alaska years back, it's a (small) asymmetrical suspension bridge :) you really gave me an appreciation for bridge construction
"cable-stayed" apparently, although I'm not quite sure of the difference though
RCE: "There, now all the colors are segregated."
white U.S. viewer: *sweats nervously*
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I bought the game last night after watching all your Mini Motorways videos and watching all of your City Skylines videos and took a bunch of notes - managed to get to 2203 points on the first level first try!
You should play beamng drive, it is a very detailed soft body physics based vehicle simulator
I love how absolutely obsessed you are with these kinds of games, really shows you chose the right job (:
“No mixing of colours” Ok
Traffic lights seem to help out in areas too small and low traffic for roundabouts, and their performance is pretty constant while roundabouts break down under high traffic.
"Apparently it's in egypt"
Segregation strats really work! I made sure the streams never cross and everything works dandy until it doesn't.
The philosophy of the rich and the poor is this: "the rich invest their money and spend what is left. The poor spend their money and invest what is left".
Interesting, most people don't understand the market moves and tend to be mislead in facts like this and always depend on Money in the Bank very bad idea.
I understand the fact that tomorrow isn't promised to anyone, but investing today is a hard thing to do because I have no idea of how and where to invest in?
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Definitely want to see more of this. And mini metro. Love this style of game. Do more!
I don't even like this game. In fact, I have never even played it. I just like watching you play. Much more satisfying. Thanks bud.
Another tactic that could have solved issues would be to segregate the individual colours to only carry out trips to certain Malls/Cinemas/thingys; having all of the same colour connected means a yellow (for example) from one side of the map may make a journey to the other side of the map when there is mall right next to it just because it was free when the demand was raised.
Being more specific in which houses you want to travel to each location helps avoid this and free up space.
Traffic lights are helpful to actually reduce congestion at 4 way intersections. If you pay close attention all cars will slow way down when nearing a 4 way intersection before proceeding no matter if there is traffic or not, but once you place a traffic light if their way is green they will speed through it!
This. It's very subtle but the game creators really nailed it, there is a slight slowing as if the car is checking to make sure it's clear. I tend to set up offset 3-way intersections when I can, to avoid this. Using the parking lot of a double-lot as a passthrough is also not ideal if you can put a plain road alongside - the cars that are just passing through do go slower, just as you would have to in a real parking lot.
One day you popped up on my recommended and it was mini motorways and now i watch a bunch of your videos
I like your vibe in these videos. You're like a more relaxed version of Spiffing Brit.
Please don't stop this series!!
I love throughout this whole video you didnt notice the Light Blue Supermarket turn into a Light Blue IMAX Cinema
Dar es salaam is actually also a place in Egypt so he wasn’t lying it was just that the game referred to another place also called that
Traffic lights help, when there is a crossroad, where two the crossing roads aren't frequently used. The more used road is permanently green then and the cars don't have to slow down.
The "trust me I'm an engineer" song plays in my head every time I watch your videos
Moving those motor ways is more stress relieving than anything else in the game
As an engineer, you would love mindustry
"And we have our 1st IMAX cinema"
The light blue IMAX cinema (who was the 1st) "hello darkness my old friend"
you deserve the success, a great content creator, funny, smart, and good taste in games
Traffic lights are good early game, when there isn’t too much traffic, roundabouts are good late game when there is lots of congestion, keep in mind, when you get the traffic light upgrade, you get 2 of them, instead of receiving 1 for the roundabout upgrade
i love this game so much. never stop playing it.