Hello Sir, I have problems about of the accumulation error of the stepping motor when running for a while then I have reset to homing point it’s come back . I should be fixing the drive or the motor or anything sol.? Could you help to recommend me?. Thank you in advance if you recommend.
Beautiful review . I have used leadshine ACS606 servo drives before they are great and can run cold af all day. Have you done running temperature comparisons? I am in Australia and it can get pretty hot here. Want to try these as i am guessing they will need less setup time and ofcourse more holding torque than servos. I’ll lose on max rpms though.
Quite a detailed video. I'm wondering if this would help with repeatable moves and avoiding position drift on the Y-Axis when doing detailed cuts at higher speeds (and with high idle speed and the Y-Axis shifting quickly between elements). Might be worth the upgrade if that is the case 🧐
Congratulations on the video, it's a good comparison. For the Y axis, what motor and what driver do you recommend, if it can be with a double axis, since I have a central motor, for the two guides, as it seems the same as your machine. Thanks.
Is programming the driver with the RS 232 cable necessary to obtain accurate measurements while the CNC machine is running or is it sufficient to adjust the settings in the Mash3 program with the hardware? Please clarify because I always work with only stepper motors without encoder, thank you very much
2:00 i see the "U V W" phases marks on the driver, that typically used for AC induction motors. Are you sure that is a stepper motor? i don't think so.
Absolutely this is a closed loop stepper motor. There are 2 main types of stepper motors known as 3-phase & 2-phase steppers. This one I use is a 3-phase and has better performance than a 2-phase motor.
I have a chinese, blue and gray 80w, do you know if these can be installed on this? It currently uses DM5454A steppers and has a RDC6442G-B controller.
I'm using a DSP RDC6445G (EC) wth 2HSS57 step-driver and a MODEL MOTOR: 57J1880EC-1000, in the driver I have already changed the steps, but I can't get past 100mm / s and the driver triggers the alarm. (photos of the driver and engine follow). Can you help me?
Just wondering if you were able to increase you speeds using these motors? if so can you tell me how much of an increase please ?I have just replaced the standard steppers for these and am hoping for an increase in speed during engraving . Thanks !
yes the speed is increased. however it is important to note... the faster you engrave the less time the laser beam has to mark / engrave the material, so you will need to consider this if you require high resolution / quality engraving.
yes your axis vendor settings need to be set to the max speed you want to safely operate. if you are trying to engrave over the max speed set for the axis, it will default to that max speed. so adjust it as required.
I'm using Hybrid Servo HBS57 Leadshine, but my Drive motor not operator, it's error "Position Following Error". I reset my driver but not fix the error. I'm using software HBSProTune and connect to computer but it no change. You can help me how to fix error "Position Following Error". Thank you!
it is possible, however you'd need to check the specs and NEMA size of your current motors they may not have the physical space requirement to install on these smaller machines. I cannot advise if it is worthwhile, but it is not something I'd do on my smaller machine 7050
@@MWLaser I am fairly certain those are not actually leadshine products. Concidering that there is a link to "leisal . com" on the motor.... Seems pretty freaking fake
Matt, clearpath "servos" are hybrids as well. And $239 is hilarious to be honest, because you need their PSU as well as couple small wiring packs. To get two clear path units and their 75v PSU in a working system, you're looking at about $750 to $1K+ You can get two of these Leadshine hybrids and drivers for about $350 or less. BUT..... Clearpath units are infinitely better in everyway. You're looking at about 50-100x more torque and speeds ver 3Kmm/s @ 5G accelerations on a system like Matt is running here. That being said. I would go with their Leadshine units before I would run typical steppers any day. No matter how good you set up a stepper unit, you cannot get the repeatability any encoded motor can, period. Micro-stepping is awful with steppers for laser accuracy. Those are for the DIY 3D printer guys.
Thank you. I was just thinking about this upgrade these days and wondering if it is worth it. Thanks for shinning a bit of light onto my dilema :)
Glad it was helpful!
Hello, Thank you for the informative video.
Are you familiar with the Leadshine drive model H2-758?
Hi Matt, did you only use one motor for the X axis or did you replace both X and Y motors?
Hello Sir,
I have problems about of the accumulation error of the stepping motor when running for a while then I have reset to homing point it’s come back . I should be fixing the drive or the motor or anything sol.? Could you help to recommend me?. Thank you in advance if you recommend.
Beautiful review . I have used leadshine ACS606 servo drives before they are great and can run cold af all day. Have you done running temperature comparisons? I am in Australia and it can get pretty hot here.
Want to try these as i am guessing they will need less setup time and ofcourse more holding torque than servos. I’ll lose on max rpms though.
Setup time is similar, but you will also need to have cable chain wide enough to accommodate the feedback cable.
Would you be willing to do a video covering the X-axis calibration? I think this would be a great video!!
Thank you. I have done a video on axis calibration. If there is more you need to know just ask. Cheers
@MWLaser can you post the link of calibration video please?
Great Job
Quite a detailed video. I'm wondering if this would help with repeatable moves and avoiding position drift on the Y-Axis when doing detailed cuts at higher speeds (and with high idle speed and the Y-Axis shifting quickly between elements). Might be worth the upgrade if that is the case 🧐
if used on y axis it should improve position accuracy
Congratulations on the video, it's a good comparison.
For the Y axis, what motor and what driver do you recommend, if it can be with a double axis, since I have a central motor, for the two guides, as it seems the same as your machine.
Thanks.
can you email more information on the axis dimensions and setup to matt@mwlaser.com.au
thank you matthew
Always welcome :)
Is programming the driver with the RS 232 cable necessary to obtain accurate measurements while the CNC machine is running or is it sufficient to adjust the settings in the Mash3 program with the hardware? Please clarify because I always work with only stepper motors without encoder, thank you very much
Leadshine offer support for their products - leadshine.com/Support.aspx Cheers
How to connect two hybrid steppr motor by one hybrid driver
2:00 i see the "U V W" phases marks on the driver, that typically used for AC induction motors. Are you sure that is a stepper motor? i don't think so.
Absolutely this is a closed loop stepper motor. There are 2 main types of stepper motors known as 3-phase & 2-phase steppers. This one I use is a 3-phase and has better performance than a 2-phase motor.
I never really understood hybrid servos, how does the controller know what your scaling is, 100mm = 100mm etc.
By calibration of each axis. This is part of the Laser Controller Configuration. I have a video on Axis Calibration that may answer your query.
So are these different to standard closed loop stepper motors? I see the words servo on everything these days so I’m not sure what to believe
No difference. These are closed loop stepper motors. They are marketed as a hybrid servos, but they are not servos.
I have a chinese, blue and gray 80w, do you know if these can be installed on this? It currently uses DM5454A steppers and has a RDC6442G-B controller.
yes, you could get similar units to match the NEMA size you have on your machine currently
@@MWLaser cool! I'll have to dig deeper into this.
I'm using a DSP RDC6445G (EC) wth 2HSS57 step-driver and a MODEL MOTOR: 57J1880EC-1000, in the driver I have already changed the steps, but I can't get past 100mm / s and the driver triggers the alarm. (photos of the driver and engine follow).
Can you help me?
I suggest contacting Leadshine Support or your Supplier on this issue. I cannot receive photos thru UA-cam Comments.
Just wondering if you were able to increase you speeds using these motors? if so can you tell me how much of an increase please ?I have just replaced the standard steppers for these and am hoping for an increase in speed during engraving . Thanks !
yes the speed is increased. however it is important to note... the faster you engrave the less time the laser beam has to mark / engrave the material, so you will need to consider this if you require high resolution / quality engraving.
@@MWLaser Thanks for your reply , did you change any setting in the vendor settings to increase the speeds ? TIA !
yes your axis vendor settings need to be set to the max speed you want to safely operate. if you are trying to engrave over the max speed set for the axis, it will default to that max speed. so adjust it as required.
I'm using Hybrid Servo HBS57 Leadshine, but my Drive motor not operator, it's error "Position Following Error". I reset my driver but not fix the error. I'm using software HBSProTune and connect to computer but it no change. You can help me how to fix error "Position Following Error". Thank you!
Please contact Leadshine Support.
hi, what is the highest engrave speed with this rail and servo motor? If you are tested?
no I have not tested
@@MWLaser
what is the fastest you have tried?
Hi, would this be a feasible upgrade on the Chinese 7050 80w laser or not worth it or not doable?? Cheers
it is possible, however you'd need to check the specs and NEMA size of your current motors they may not have the physical space requirement to install on these smaller machines. I cannot advise if it is worthwhile, but it is not something I'd do on my smaller machine 7050
This combo is $155. Clearpath servos start from $239. So this option is lot cheaper.
When comparing prices you need to compare like4like remembering that these are HYBRID servo motors
@@MWLaser I am fairly certain those are not actually leadshine products.
Concidering that there is a link to "leisal . com" on the motor....
Seems pretty freaking fake
Matt, clearpath "servos" are hybrids as well. And $239 is hilarious to be honest, because you need their PSU as well as couple small wiring packs. To get two clear path units and their 75v PSU in a working system, you're looking at about $750 to $1K+ You can get two of these Leadshine hybrids and drivers for about $350 or less. BUT..... Clearpath units are infinitely better in everyway. You're looking at about 50-100x more torque and speeds ver 3Kmm/s @ 5G accelerations on a system like Matt is running here. That being said. I would go with their Leadshine units before I would run typical steppers any day. No matter how good you set up a stepper unit, you cannot get the repeatability any encoded motor can, period. Micro-stepping is awful with steppers for laser accuracy. Those are for the DIY 3D printer guys.