Most half hour lectures on philosophy are dry and challenging to follow, but this? This was just bloody brilliant! Stoked to see where you take the rest of the series.
Oh! Thank you so much! That really means a lot--these are not easy subject, and often, people get discouraged trying to jump into the primary text without being aware what it is they are getting into. I do hope to cover many of these ideas as closely as possible to what the text says--so though it may take some time to get through it all, I hope it will be well worth it! 😎
You explained this brilliantly: Descartes did not accept sense experience as a genuine form of knowledge because it is developed in the mind of the perceived alone, (this makes absolute perfect sense as not everyone will perceive this in the same way!). However, Descartes would accept this as genuine knowledge if the IDEA, not the experience is expressed! SO GOOD!!!
Yes! For Descartes, pure reasoning is more knowable that that in the extended world percieved through sense experience. I will explain this further when discussing his approach to substance. 😎
Thank you so much! It is funny, because I left that line in, but that actually came after a very long side rant that I actually really liked, but took out simply because it is already a longer video and didn't add to the subject matter. I may put it somewhere else down the line, though haha 😊
This morning, I ate cereal from a hat while listening to the Ramones, cursing Chuck Palahniuk. Thank you, but noooo. hahaha Descartes, though, yes. I just read it.😅
Your understanding and explanations of Descartes' philosophy are positively brilliant! Completely thought out, perfectly organized and connected. Much better than anything else I have heard from any other source, including university classes! Thank you!😊
“My present design, then, is not to teach the Method which each ought to follow for the right conduct of his Reason, but solely to describe the way in which I have endeavored to conduct my own.” I’m glad you are guiding people to read Descartes. I not only find him humble, but open to possibilities that his own Reason may be explained and I very much like this approach as he is not telling people what to think, but rather makes an exploration.
Absolutely! And great quote you pulled from part one of the Discourse. The previous paragraph opens with "it is possible I am mistaken." He does have a very humble approach, and it is funny reading his responses to the objections, where he sounds as though he is losing his temper with Gassendi. There is a lot of personality in his overall work haha
Fire, Pae, straight fire. I’m very glad you are doing this series on Descartes, because I fear I myself have never done deep enough of a dive on Descartes. I’ve never known where to look for resources on him, but it’s clear that you're bringing a depth and expertise which is missing from most studies on Descartes. Thank you for doing the work to make that possible. The list of the four points of his method was very helpful, and perhaps there is no word in philosophy that means so many different things to so many different people than "substance." I also liked your point on the danger of connecting a bunch of thinkers under the same umbrella, the point on how ideas are wrong when brought into imagination, and also really appreciate your bringing in Pierce at the end, who I like very much, though I think Descartes had replies to Pierce which Pierce missed. Anyway, great work Pae, and I’m very much looking forward to more.
This whole series started due to an essay you wrote haha, I am glad you like it. Eventually, I will make it to Heidegger 😅 And yeah, I wanted to get a lot more on Pierce, but it would have been a whole separate video. I am hoping at the end of each discussion on Descartes, I can give a few minutes on a separate view and provide the text in the description in hope of getting people to read more into it. That is kind of what I had in mind when adding it.😎
@@attention5638 Thank you, dearest Pae, and Heidegger has a way of making being disclose itself, doesn't he? Whenever I read Being and Time, I suddenly can find my car keys...And Pierce is a large and wide vista: I always hesitate to say much on him before I am pulled into 2 years of work...Always at risk of treeing...(still best word ever)
@@O.G.Rose.Michelle.and.Daniel Ah! I just saw this...if I don't reply, that is just because my bell notifications never work and i always have to go back to the videos to check comments, but I assure you, it is always very much appreciated, and thank you so much, my friend!
@@attention5638 You're awesome Pae, and no issue at all. I've randomly discovered that emails of mine haven't been going through, so I sympathize with the joys of tech not working. In other news, you're an inspiration to the race of humans.
I am not sure why I cannot see your comment on the last video, but I see it in my email, so I can reply here haha. But yes! I have read a collected works of Cicero's which I believe that was in, I will have to go back and reread it, but I could totally do a video on that!
Discourse on the Method was my first introduction to philosophy and, quite literally, changed my life. In college, I took Intro to Philosophy as a humanities requirement, this was the first text we read, and the rest is history.
That is wonderful to hear! I will always tell people that want to get into philosophy and ask where a good place to start would be, it is always Descartes and Plato. I am glad to hear you enjoyed Discourse, and it provided a good introduction! 😎
My thoughts while watching the video: Descartes looks like he could be in The Three Musketeers, a group of characters using swords rather than the muskets you might expect based on their name; that's what the world is like though, words linking in non-intuitive ways, inferences based more on romanticism than on reality. One would think if you asked an ignorant person what weapon the Musketeers were known to use, the rational answer would be muskets. And yet it's not. Also, nice to see a copy of House of Leaves in the expanded background scenes. It'll be interesting to hear you discuss Aristotelian deduction [and maybe neo-Aristotelianism?]. Peace.
Hahaha this is really great! Now I can't unsee Descartes as a Musketeer, but you bring up a really good point with language, and social conditioning, as it would actually make sense, but yet I never thought of the Musketeers using muskets. And yes, there will be much to discuss in Aristotilian logic when getting into the history and mechanics of their given methods. It should be fun! 😎
Michael! I am so happy to see you here! As I have been away, it has been difficult to remember which channels in this community I enjoy keeping up with, and I am sure I have been missing out on a lot of great sci fi! I am going to have some catching up to do tonight! Hope all is well with you!
Pae, I've been consuming this in chunks over the last few days. It is amazing and I really appreciate how you explore many works. Particularly philosophy as I feel you have such a strong grasp it helps me with areas that I struggle with understanding. A lot of substance here. :D
Oh! Thank you so much! It really does mean a lot, hearing that from someone I know takes these subjects seriously. If you ever want to have a discussion on Kierkegaard or Wittgenstein (if I could guess from watching your channel, and what you have said in the past, those two great philosophers are high on your list, as well as mine) just let me know! In fact, Kierkegaard has a whole novella that is just kind of a parody of Descartes's Discourse. It is great!
@@attention5638 why you don't directly talk to him named #kierkegaard i think he really knows how to sacrifice own life for others .. and as trend always the true person is become a jocker .. one thing even he deserve all of this but is there anyone other you see who always b quite .. He never ever try anything..hah! Just Make sounds
Hmmmm I feel like many people these days would benefit from following the Cartesian method before speaking on something. Excellent to see the return of your meticulously-edited videos! I am left wondering how one could possibly do justice to such topics in shorter segmentations. Also - I couldn't help but be reminded in Descartes titlingof Jacques Cartier’s description of his visit to Montreal (since I was just talking about it haha): “Short and succinct narrative of navigation to the islands of Canada, Hochelaga & Saguenay & others, including particular customs, languages & ceremonies of the islanders: very delightful to see” .... Short and succinct indeed >.> must've been a 16th/17th century thing lol
Wow. I thought 3 dimensional calculus was hard. Actually Descartes's method reminds me a lot of geometric proofs. What can we accept as indubitable? (A word I learned thanks to Piers Anthony [Yes, even in comments must I mention him]).
Hahah, I have always appreciated your passion for Piers Anthony's work--I am trying my best to stay away from Descartes's geometrical calculus and keep solely to his philosophical notions--but it is good to keep in mind his contributions in mathematics even to show where his mind leaps from. Thank you for checking this out, John, and hope all is well! 😊
Do you read French? "obtain knowledge of the world" I think the best way is to live life. =) But then that's a whole can of worms, because obviously I'm not going to obtain the same knowledge of the world as others. 🤔 And Prometheus has informed me that there are young people who think logic and reason don't exist. Did Descartes believe in common sense? And lo! I have iscourse on the Method of Rightly Conducting Onne's Reason and of Seeking Truth on my physical shelf. On a side note: I like your art on the wall with the guy on the ladder in front of a bookcase reading a book. Does he have another book in his hand? And I like your elephant book ends. Looking forward to your next video. 🤗
It does raise a lot of epistemological question of what constitutes as knowledge--and that is funny, because those people Prometheus is talking about, people that do not believe in logic--it probably doesn't exist to them, and any attempt as to why would show that it does. I would love to hear their illogical explanation as to why 😅 And that is a great question, and I will be getting into how Descartes used immediate intuition, which you could, in many ways, relate to common sense. There will be a lot said about this haha. And thank you, I love that painting, too. He does have another book in his hands, and between his knees haha. 😅
reliable rules which are easy to YEET and such that if one follows them exactly one will never take what is false to be YEET or fruitlessly YEET YEET will gradually and constantly increase one's YEETAGE till one arrives at a true understanding of YEETING within ones capacity -desYEETs
Most half hour lectures on philosophy are dry and challenging to follow, but this? This was just bloody brilliant! Stoked to see where you take the rest of the series.
Oh! Thank you so much! That really means a lot--these are not easy subject, and often, people get discouraged trying to jump into the primary text without being aware what it is they are getting into. I do hope to cover many of these ideas as closely as possible to what the text says--so though it may take some time to get through it all, I hope it will be well worth it! 😎
You explained this brilliantly: Descartes did not accept sense experience as a genuine form of knowledge because it is developed in the mind of the perceived alone, (this makes absolute perfect sense as not everyone will perceive this in the same way!). However, Descartes would accept this as genuine knowledge if the IDEA, not the experience is expressed! SO GOOD!!!
Yes! For Descartes, pure reasoning is more knowable that that in the extended world percieved through sense experience. I will explain this further when discussing his approach to substance. 😎
“Never rush in to establish one’s whole worldview” is very valuable advice! 🙂
Thank you so much! It is funny, because I left that line in, but that actually came after a very long side rant that I actually really liked, but took out simply because it is already a longer video and didn't add to the subject matter. I may put it somewhere else down the line, though haha 😊
You truly are a great intellect of our time. Genius
This morning, I ate cereal from a hat while listening to the Ramones, cursing Chuck Palahniuk. Thank you, but noooo. hahaha Descartes, though, yes. I just read it.😅
Was it the bowler hat or beaver hat?? 😂😂
@@GreenerSideOfSam No! That is not my eating hat!
@@attention5638 I want video evidence of this. LOL Which Ramones song? I used to enjoy Beat the Brat... Ha! Bet you didn't expect that.
@@BookZealots And yeah! I would not have guess you to have been a Ramones fan haha. They have so many catchy tunes! 😅
Your understanding and explanations of Descartes' philosophy are positively brilliant! Completely thought out, perfectly organized and connected. Much better than anything else I have heard from any other source, including university classes! Thank you!😊
“My present design, then, is not to teach the Method which each ought to follow for the right conduct of his Reason, but solely to describe the way in which I have endeavored to conduct my own.” I’m glad you are guiding people to read Descartes. I not only find him humble, but open to possibilities that his own Reason may be explained and I very much like this approach as he is not telling people what to think, but rather makes an exploration.
Yes...but did Descartes eat sushi?🤪
Absolutely! And great quote you pulled from part one of the Discourse. The previous paragraph opens with "it is possible I am mistaken." He does have a very humble approach, and it is funny reading his responses to the objections, where he sounds as though he is losing his temper with Gassendi. There is a lot of personality in his overall work haha
@@stevencorey7702 Asking the important questions here haha
@@stevencorey7702 he probably ate snail??? 🤔🤔🤔
@@GreenerSideOfSam Escargot...🤮
Fire, Pae, straight fire. I’m very glad you are doing this series on Descartes, because I fear I myself have never done deep enough of a dive on Descartes. I’ve never known where to look for resources on him, but it’s clear that you're bringing a depth and expertise which is missing from most studies on Descartes. Thank you for doing the work to make that possible.
The list of the four points of his method was very helpful, and perhaps there is no word in philosophy that means so many different things to so many different people than "substance." I also liked your point on the danger of connecting a bunch of thinkers under the same umbrella, the point on how ideas are wrong when brought into imagination, and also really appreciate your bringing in Pierce at the end, who I like very much, though I think Descartes had replies to Pierce which Pierce missed. Anyway, great work Pae, and I’m very much looking forward to more.
This whole series started due to an essay you wrote haha, I am glad you like it. Eventually, I will make it to Heidegger 😅 And yeah, I wanted to get a lot more on Pierce, but it would have been a whole separate video. I am hoping at the end of each discussion on Descartes, I can give a few minutes on a separate view and provide the text in the description in hope of getting people to read more into it. That is kind of what I had in mind when adding it.😎
@@attention5638 Thank you, dearest Pae, and Heidegger has a way of making being disclose itself, doesn't he? Whenever I read Being and Time, I suddenly can find my car keys...And Pierce is a large and wide vista: I always hesitate to say much on him before I am pulled into 2 years of work...Always at risk of treeing...(still best word ever)
@@O.G.Rose.Michelle.and.Daniel Ah! I just saw this...if I don't reply, that is just because my bell notifications never work and i always have to go back to the videos to check comments, but I assure you, it is always very much appreciated, and thank you so much, my friend!
@@attention5638 You're awesome Pae, and no issue at all. I've randomly discovered that emails of mine haven't been going through, so I sympathize with the joys of tech not working. In other news, you're an inspiration to the race of humans.
Being subject to monarchies, strong religious authorities, etc, that existed at those times, I'm constantly amazed at the philosophy that arose.🤔
Very good point, and Descartes expressed in letter that he was often afraid to publish what he had after hearing what Copernicus went through.
I am not sure why I cannot see your comment on the last video, but I see it in my email, so I can reply here haha. But yes! I have read a collected works of Cicero's which I believe that was in, I will have to go back and reread it, but I could totally do a video on that!
@@attention5638 Thanks. Not sure why my comment isn't coming up...maybe You Tube is mad at me, again. They are censor happy, these days.😜
Discourse on the Method was my first introduction to philosophy and, quite literally, changed my life. In college, I took Intro to Philosophy as a humanities requirement, this was the first text we read, and the rest is history.
That is wonderful to hear! I will always tell people that want to get into philosophy and ask where a good place to start would be, it is always Descartes and Plato. I am glad to hear you enjoyed Discourse, and it provided a good introduction! 😎
My thoughts while watching the video: Descartes looks like he could be in The Three Musketeers, a group of characters using swords rather than the muskets you might expect based on their name; that's what the world is like though, words linking in non-intuitive ways, inferences based more on romanticism than on reality. One would think if you asked an ignorant person what weapon the Musketeers were known to use, the rational answer would be muskets. And yet it's not. Also, nice to see a copy of House of Leaves in the expanded background scenes. It'll be interesting to hear you discuss Aristotelian deduction [and maybe neo-Aristotelianism?]. Peace.
Hahaha this is really great! Now I can't unsee Descartes as a Musketeer, but you bring up a really good point with language, and social conditioning, as it would actually make sense, but yet I never thought of the Musketeers using muskets. And yes, there will be much to discuss in Aristotilian logic when getting into the history and mechanics of their given methods. It should be fun! 😎
Just here for you to twist my mind some more. Good to see you and see you posting P!
Michael! I am so happy to see you here! As I have been away, it has been difficult to remember which channels in this community I enjoy keeping up with, and I am sure I have been missing out on a lot of great sci fi! I am going to have some catching up to do tonight! Hope all is well with you!
@@attention5638 doing great. Trying to not let booktube overwhelm all my other responsibilities!
Pae, I've been consuming this in chunks over the last few days. It is amazing and I really appreciate how you explore many works. Particularly philosophy as I feel you have such a strong grasp it helps me with areas that I struggle with understanding. A lot of substance here. :D
Oh! Thank you so much! It really does mean a lot, hearing that from someone I know takes these subjects seriously. If you ever want to have a discussion on Kierkegaard or Wittgenstein (if I could guess from watching your channel, and what you have said in the past, those two great philosophers are high on your list, as well as mine) just let me know! In fact, Kierkegaard has a whole novella that is just kind of a parody of Descartes's Discourse. It is great!
Happy to know that now you suffer easily cantina it's only for you
@@attention5638 why you don't directly talk to him named #kierkegaard i think he really knows how to sacrifice own life for others .. and as trend always the true person is become a jocker .. one thing even he deserve all of this but is there anyone other you see who always b quite .. He never ever try anything..hah! Just Make sounds
Hmmmm I feel like many people these days would benefit from following the Cartesian method before speaking on something.
Excellent to see the return of your meticulously-edited videos! I am left wondering how one could possibly do justice to such topics in shorter segmentations.
Also - I couldn't help but be reminded in Descartes titlingof Jacques Cartier’s description of his visit to Montreal (since I was just talking about it haha): “Short and succinct narrative of navigation to the islands of Canada, Hochelaga & Saguenay & others, including particular customs, languages & ceremonies of the islanders: very delightful to see”
.... Short and succinct indeed >.> must've been a 16th/17th century thing lol
That is a great title, but especially the subtitle, "Very Delightful to See." 😅
Wow. I thought 3 dimensional calculus was hard. Actually Descartes's method reminds me a lot of geometric proofs. What can we accept as indubitable? (A word I learned thanks to Piers Anthony [Yes, even in comments must I mention him]).
Hahah, I have always appreciated your passion for Piers Anthony's work--I am trying my best to stay away from Descartes's geometrical calculus and keep solely to his philosophical notions--but it is good to keep in mind his contributions in mathematics even to show where his mind leaps from. Thank you for checking this out, John, and hope all is well! 😊
Do you read French?
"obtain knowledge of the world" I think the best way is to live life. =) But then that's a whole can of worms, because obviously I'm not going to obtain the same knowledge of the world as others. 🤔 And Prometheus has informed me that there are young people who think logic and reason don't exist. Did Descartes believe in common sense?
And lo! I have iscourse on the Method of Rightly Conducting Onne's Reason and of Seeking Truth on my physical shelf.
On a side note: I like your art on the wall with the guy on the ladder in front of a bookcase reading a book. Does he have another book in his hand?
And I like your elephant book ends. Looking forward to your next video. 🤗
Prometheus just reminded me of I wanna be sedated! So much better than beat the brat.
It does raise a lot of epistemological question of what constitutes as knowledge--and that is funny, because those people Prometheus is talking about, people that do not believe in logic--it probably doesn't exist to them, and any attempt as to why would show that it does. I would love to hear their illogical explanation as to why 😅 And that is a great question, and I will be getting into how Descartes used immediate intuition, which you could, in many ways, relate to common sense. There will be a lot said about this haha. And thank you, I love that painting, too. He does have another book in his hands, and between his knees haha. 😅
@@BookZealots Oh yes! I grew up on the Ramones and a lot of that early punk rock. I still turn it on every now and then haha😎
We can’t doubt that we are doubting? My brain hurts. 😵💫
That can be a side effect of philosophy haha
reliable rules which are easy to YEET and such that if one follows them exactly one will never take what is false to be YEET or fruitlessly YEET YEET will gradually and constantly increase one's YEETAGE till one arrives at a true understanding of YEETING within ones capacity -desYEETs
HAHAHA DesYeets--the philosopher of our time. Truly had a way with words. That is great 😅