And error prone. Surprised the thing is glued together. For as expensive as it looks. Then again, maybe I don't understand how you attach carbon fiber to metal.
I was wondering if anyone else noticed that… Reminds me of that movie Armageddon when Ben affleck has a crankshaft from an engine stood up on a bench and he’s measuring it with a dial indicator… also by hand/eye 🤣
2:00 I like how they cut to the final small part being peened to have a satin finish with a bushing in it after it's been CNC'd from a big-ass billet of metal. You could literally make the same part using powdered metal or die casting, but then it wouldn't be "audiophile grade." Classic.
There's a lot of nonsense in this video. Like using carbon fibre on a balanced arm instead of metal (why does the weight matter if its balanced?) Then using 'copper coated wires' to avoid interference? So it's got massive capacitance then? Wouldn't be surprised if an old technics 1210 gave a better sound in a blind test. It is technically superior after all, with its direct drive.
@@jdmjesus6103 I guarantee it probably would, esp. since most of those older machines had some form of speed control for the platter drive. The drive mechanism on this looks like something from someone's science fair project in grade school.
@@jdmjesus6103 "copper coated wires"...No! they have a copper foil overwrap. Yes, that does increase capacitance. So what? That's easy enough to compensate for in the audio circuit. More important, that copper wrap shields those pickup wires from EMI and RFI which could induce static at the audio pre-amp.
@@mysock351C The differences in motor technology are night and day different. Motor speed is digitally controlled on the new motors. Old phonographs had to be adjusted for each of the three speeds (33rpm, 45rpm, 78rpm) using a oscilloscope by turning a potentiometer on the control board.
Most very high grade turntables use air bearings or oil floated journals with heavy brass, glass, ceramic or stainless steel platters. You can also choose from direct drive ironless eddy current or belt driven AC synchronous motors. They can weight hundreds of pounds and cost tens of thousands of dollars.
I think I could have soldered and wired that better, and I'm awful at soldering. This is a $50 turntable rather than a $5000 turntable...right? Right? I'm struggling to justify buying a new tone arm for the Thorens TD-124 in my parents' basement, never mind dropping an amount of cash that could be the down payment on a new car on a new turntable.
Tone arm wires are about as thin as human hair and not the easiest thing to solder even with experience soldering thicker gauge wires. You also have to do it four times and use heat shrink tubing on all solder joints. The TD-124 tone arm being surface mounted should make the job easier but it still won't be pleasant. The new $1,000.00 Technics SL-1200MK7 has history but the vintage MK2 have been the best since the late 1970's for direct drive with exceptional damping. Replacing the tone arm on a MK2 is a small nightmare because of the damping. The MK2's where used in pairs in almost every nightclub around the world for many decades before things went digital.
Love the cheap RS Components motor and the spindle wobble shown in all its glory. Bet the brand didn’t get a preview of the final video before it went live 🙈😂
The motor is a McLennan 9904 Reversible Synchronous AC Motor. It costs roughly. US$105 which is equivalent to adding $400-500 to the retail price of the final product. It is considered a high quality motor.
I miss the hold days of a stack of records playing, and you have to be careful not to bump whatever the record player was on. My first album was Led Zpplins In through the out door then Vanhalens Jump! Those started my addiction to vinyl! Lol in the evening…… bam jam! All my love! Fool in the rain, hot dog, south bound Suarez. Almost EVERY song was fantastic! Most albums you bought because 4 of the 10 or more songs were great, and the other junk. Not that album. I wore that record out! Oh, to be 16 again, and to have my 59 year old knowledge!
Wow, terrible soldering job. Also for someone doing this all day for a living, he should have used a heat gun to do the heat shrink instead of burning it unevenly with the tip of the iron.
I used to have quite the record collection , And I DJ'ed alot of gigs . But I prefer just using the Internet now . the sound is amazing and you do not have to carry all them damn records !
I can't believe that after all of that beautiful machining, high end tone arm and receiver assembly they top it off with a JUNK felt platter mat. Wow. I have a turntable that cost 1/3 the price of this beautiful piece of art and I still use a $40 deer hide leather mat, come on 😂
People who think that vinyl sounds better has never actually looked into the science. A single needle cannot pickup all of the ridges in a groove, and it will skip over a lot of detail.
@@BrautiProductionz I can understand that when you are talking about instruments, but when we are talking about recordings OF instruments then you should aim for accuracy and not preference.
@@mcmillantod Obviously you have never looked into the science. Detail is lost. A single needle cannot follow two different waveforms with much precision.
When you load a blank of material into a CNC, you need a known datum. In this case, a center hole is likely more convenient than ensuring any piece of acrylic they use has a precision corner.
@@_Jigen I understand that, this is what I do with a vinyl record that I CNC. In this case though, I'd mark in the software where the center is, and what circle I want, input blank's dimensions, and let the machine do the cutting - much more precisely. What they did makes little sense.
50% parts and labor.... his soldering iron is 2$ from aliexpress... :) Imagine heating the insulation with the soldering iron and not hot air pistol....
I love how the tonearm alignment was done with a ruler and the old "let's eyeball it" technique. That's just so analog.
He was just checkin articulation!!...hahahh!
And error prone. Surprised the thing is glued together. For as expensive as it looks. Then again, maybe I don't understand how you attach carbon fiber to metal.
I was wondering if anyone else noticed that…
Reminds me of that movie Armageddon when Ben affleck has a crankshaft from an engine stood up on a bench and he’s measuring it with a dial indicator… also by hand/eye 🤣
@@glynnetolar4423 epoxy
The footage of the lathe cutting the workpieces were shot so beautifully!
"It's time for the vinyl test" was the best pun till today.
Cause it’s the vinyl countdown]]
I dunno man. Didn’t sound like a purposeful pun. Normally you can tell, because they use a different tone. This was in fact a vinyl test.
Hey, I vinyly got it.
Man I love this show....I remember my dad & I watching a lot of them in the afternoon back in the day.
same here
Same’sees
same!!
Ooooh so THIS is the level of craftsmanship that goes into a Crosley Cruiser. Neat!
💀
The shoddy diy electrical work, did not match the high-end mechanical parts.
That $15 soldering iron....
And they can't afford a heat gun to properly shrink the tubing on those horrible solder joints?
Then he just fuckin stuffs everything in there, so much excess wire dangling around in there
I mean, the thing is glued together.
As someone who has to deal with budget cuts... I can see why, not saying I agree with it all, just saying I understand. Lol
So much automated fabrication, and then lining the arm on the eye? High quality components, but shrinking with an iron? This can be done better.
2:00 I like how they cut to the final small part being peened to have a satin finish with a bushing in it after it's been CNC'd from a big-ass billet of metal. You could literally make the same part using powdered metal or die casting, but then it wouldn't be "audiophile grade." Classic.
There's a lot of nonsense in this video. Like using carbon fibre on a balanced arm instead of metal (why does the weight matter if its balanced?) Then using 'copper coated wires' to avoid interference? So it's got massive capacitance then?
Wouldn't be surprised if an old technics 1210 gave a better sound in a blind test. It is technically superior after all, with its direct drive.
@@jdmjesus6103 I guarantee it probably would, esp. since most of those older machines had some form of speed control for the platter drive. The drive mechanism on this looks like something from someone's science fair project in grade school.
@@jdmjesus6103 "copper coated wires"...No! they have a copper foil overwrap. Yes, that does increase capacitance. So what? That's easy enough to compensate for in the audio circuit. More important, that copper wrap shields those pickup wires from EMI and RFI which could induce static at the audio pre-amp.
@@mysock351C The differences in motor technology are night and day different. Motor speed is digitally controlled on the new motors. Old phonographs had to be adjusted for each of the three speeds (33rpm, 45rpm, 78rpm) using a oscilloscope by turning a potentiometer on the control board.
@@jdmjesus6103 technices are the best turntables out their. If you can find a real vintage one that still works it produces the best sound quality
3:34 That soldering killed me xD Looks like first attempt of a baby to solder wires xD
I'll be honest, it's better than I can do.
That soldering and heat shrinking was painful to watch.. Can afford CNC mills and lathes but not better electrical fab training?
Well well well... How the turn tables!
Came here for this! lol
Came for this
this is probably the least clever joke in history
Countless amount of turntables I repaired back in the day, from Dual to Denon to B & O.
I'd rather have one of those than the one in this video.
Setting azimuth by eye
No azimuth adjustment
Off the shelf motor complete with the part number and where to get it
Amazing
Yes, looks absolutely worthless. The vintage turntables are much more nice to look at.
These are for hipsters with more money than sense.
Also, the solder job was kinda, questionable?
Heated up the heat shrink sleeves with the iron instead of like - an at least $20 heat gun.
And the one in this video costs a few thousand dollars too
All of that beautiful machine work, carbon fiber, and design, then install a $2 motor and belt. Wow!
If it's work, why not? It will also be cheaper to replace it in case of damage.
@@mra.prasetio You want a very accurate way to control RPM's. It will not sound right if the RPM is off even just a little.
I thought the same thing, so I looked the part number up for the motor and it looks to be a £90 component
You also must know that the black gentleman was added for woke effect.
@alanrogs3990 The show is out of Montreal, so no, they are not concerned with labels applied by Governor DeSantis.
Are we not gonna talk about how at 3:40 he just mashes the bare wires inside the joint, not thinking about shorting or other kinds of interference?!
For what this thing costs I would expect more accuracy than "lets eyeball it" --
Or a better job at soldering those wires.......
@@HSCollectibles YEP. It would help if he had a proper iron, instead of that cheapo. Also a heatgun for the heatshrink.
That's how they do it in Ghana.
My dorsal fin got out of my back after I saw that soldering. And shrink tubing.
Most very high grade turntables use air bearings or oil floated journals with heavy brass, glass, ceramic or stainless steel platters. You can also choose from direct drive ironless eddy current or belt driven AC synchronous motors. They can weight hundreds of pounds and cost tens of thousands of dollars.
Finally, the answer to the ultimate question that perplexed mankind for so long: oh how the turn tables...
Machine operated milling is so satisfying to watch
Compared to hand operated milling?
I think I could have soldered and wired that better, and I'm awful at soldering. This is a $50 turntable rather than a $5000 turntable...right? Right? I'm struggling to justify buying a new tone arm for the Thorens TD-124 in my parents' basement, never mind dropping an amount of cash that could be the down payment on a new car on a new turntable.
Wait this piece of junk is $5000 ???
@@pronoe, you're paying for all the material they machined off of the big blocks of materials.
Tone arm wires are about as thin as human hair and not the easiest thing to solder even with experience soldering thicker gauge wires. You also have to do it four times and use heat shrink tubing on all solder joints.
The TD-124 tone arm being surface mounted should make the job easier but it still won't be pleasant.
The new $1,000.00 Technics SL-1200MK7 has history but the vintage MK2 have been the best since the late 1970's for direct drive with exceptional damping. Replacing the tone arm on a MK2 is a small nightmare because of the damping. The MK2's where used in pairs in almost every nightclub around the world for many decades before things went digital.
@@frankorandleI've soldered coax cable where the outer diameter is less than 1mm. Those wires are a piece of cake.
All that and the tech uses the solder iron instead of a heat gun to skink the heat shrink? Wow. Horrible.
Not a tech. Just a woke addition. They got him from the warehouse.
I like how they’re cutting acrylic with carbide.
I love turntables had one since I was a kid
Love the cheap RS Components motor and the spindle wobble shown in all its glory. Bet the brand didn’t get a preview of the final video before it went live 🙈😂
The motor is a McLennan 9904 Reversible Synchronous AC Motor. It costs roughly. US$105 which is equivalent to adding $400-500 to the retail price of the final product. It is considered a high quality motor.
@@kimsmoke17 McLennan is a distributor. They don't make anything.
I miss the hold days of a stack of records playing, and you have to be careful not to bump whatever the record player was on. My first album was Led Zpplins In through the out door then Vanhalens Jump! Those started my addiction to vinyl! Lol in the evening…… bam jam! All my love! Fool in the rain, hot dog, south bound Suarez. Almost EVERY song was fantastic! Most albums you bought because 4 of the 10 or more songs were great, and the other junk. Not that album. I wore that record out! Oh, to be 16 again, and to have my 59 year old knowledge!
That is not how you solder?
...or shrink tubing.
Or adjust alignment horizontally...
Or poop in a bucket…
I love HMV records.... its a bitter-sweet melody
girl the way me and my sister watched this everyday after school RELIGIOUSLY
✝️
On RCA Victor - released same year of my birth.
98% of the money going into that thing doesn’t have any relevance to the audio quality whatsoever...
Wow, terrible soldering job. Also for someone doing this all day for a living, he should have used a heat gun to do the heat shrink instead of burning it unevenly with the tip of the iron.
glad i'm not the only one who saw this hack job
Agreed. But what do you expect from India.
Oh waa waa! I've seen worse on others.
Some shady soldering and wiring. Wasted potential.
I saw a wobble on the motor drive wheel And some platter wobble.... 😕
But, but it's got a carbon fiber arm thingy...
@@BLUELEADER78 Haha... Ok, you've twisted my arm...
Love how it is made
But how it’s made doesn’t love you
I used to have quite the record collection , And I DJ'ed alot of gigs . But I prefer just using the Internet now . the sound is amazing and you do not have to carry all them damn records !
You're lame
Still using my Linn turntable I bought in 1985…
The dream Linn combo from the early 80s: Sondek, Ittok arm, Atac cartridge. I made do with a Dual 505, which I still have.
Well, well, well. How the turntables...
Best sound ever!
I had the fortune of know the vinil players in 33 1/3, 45 and 78 RPM
They was beautiful fornitures
Can't believe this thing cost thousands of dollars yet they built it like that?
If you have this channel and huggbees subscribed, whenever you click on a how it's made video you never know what I'm gonna get
I can't believe that after all of that beautiful machining, high end tone arm and receiver assembly they top it off with a JUNK felt platter mat. Wow. I have a turntable that cost 1/3 the price of this beautiful piece of art and I still use a $40 deer hide leather mat, come on 😂
Reupload from many yeaes ago.. This model has been updated now.
Awesome video and turntable
Where can we buy this in NYC?
Now all they need is another turntable and a microphone.
Where it's at
DJ?
You figure that if they are going to the extent to make a carbon fiber arm, they would have installed it in a linear drive mechanism.
Wilson Benesch Full Circle turntable, ACT 0.5 tonearm, & Ply MC cartridge
Great videos
Oh how the turntables have turned
I was expecting the microwave turntable
People who think that vinyl sounds better has never actually looked into the science.
A single needle cannot pickup all of the ridges in a groove, and it will skip over a lot of detail.
The level of detail is not necessarily the deciding factor when determining what sounds better...
@@BrautiProductionz I can understand that when you are talking about instruments, but when we are talking about recordings OF instruments then you should aim for accuracy and not preference.
Obviously you've never heard a really nice turntable.
@@mcmillantod Obviously you have never looked into the science. Detail is lost. A single needle cannot follow two different waveforms with much precision.
I hope that's not more than £100, pretty poor quality.
That Full Circle turntable is about $4000 or £3000. Ridiculous right?
@@Peterljr888 I made my own turntable about 40 years ago and it was far better than that junk.
Informative. Useful. Calming. Inspiring. Life-changing. Enjoyable. Heart-warming. Other.
Well well well, how the turntable.
And it’s cool looking.
You missed the speaker part
That was a record player. If you take away the tone arm and the motor, then you'd have a turntable.
They made some motors for vinyl analogs!
All these squares make a circle
How are coin stamps made???
As much as I love vinyl, CD was the pinnacle of audio quality.
Amazing - a CNC machine cuts a circle, but can't cut the center hole??? Really??
When you load a blank of material into a CNC, you need a known datum. In this case, a center hole is likely more convenient than ensuring any piece of acrylic they use has a precision corner.
@@_Jigen I understand that, this is what I do with a vinyl record that I CNC. In this case though, I'd mark in the software where the center is, and what circle I want, input blank's dimensions, and let the machine do the cutting - much more precisely. What they did makes little sense.
A lathe will always do round things better than a mill, it's about concentricity. That said, this turntable is all looks and no performance.
My favorite bit was using an entire mill as a glorified drill press
$4500 MSRP.
$500 Parts & Labor *MAX*
High end audio is quite the racket
50% parts and labor.... his soldering iron is 2$ from aliexpress... :) Imagine heating the insulation with the soldering iron and not hot air pistol....
Amazing Thank you .
Ugh. I hate the myth of vinyl having a superior sound to "compressed" digital audio. It is so silly.
Wait, what, did you just switch on the turntable and THEN put on the record?!
I often leave mine spinning when I change my records. No big deal if you do it quickly.
What brand is this?
Wilson Benesch.
my man just shrinking tubing with a soldering tip and shoving 36ga wires in to a nest all loosey goosey. Remind me never to buy one of these
That record player costs $5800
You're actually paying for all the extra materials they wasted. I mean a 12 ounce block of aluminum shaved down to 2 ounces. That costs money.
When do they install the vacuum pump that sucks the record flat to the turntable?
Oops, I seem to have found myself in a UA-cam rabbit hole again 🤦♂️😂
oh you science channel, thank you so much for putting together a playlist just of how it's made. I shall sleep now.
oh how the turntables
What a turntable.......
Well well well, how the turntables
how do they test the speed of the turntable?
The motor is an McLennan Synchronous AC Motor. No need to “test” the speed…
Oh you mean that's how _that_ turntable is made. I am an independent TT/Tonearm manufacturer.
LET'S GO!
This time vinyl stays
oh how the turn tables are made
Alignment by hand? What crap is that, soldering skills il give a 0 , would I I buy it No,
Well well well...
Well well well how the turn tables
Nice ...
"oh, how the turntables"
Mix, scratch, sample
The tables have turned
Oh how the turn tables
💜
Oh how the turntables
Well well well, how the turntables....
How do they make teddy bears?
My turntable was *never* destined for the scrap heap! I'd trash my CD player before I would ever get rid of my turntable!
Once upon a time these things were very cheap now
Nice
And these turntables cosy about $6,000.
(2023 price).
My, how the turntables.
Well, how the turntables.
How turntables...
Check out DJ Craze or C2C 2004 DMC.