Stop Listening In SOLO
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- Опубліковано 20 жов 2021
- Which is the best vocal microphone? First off, Stop Judging if something is good or not based on how it sounds in solo. Here is my story.
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Such a simple concept, but the best advice! Thanks for the awesome eye-opener!
I find these videos very helpful. So thank you so much for that!
Great video. The Soyuz sounds like a person vs recording in every demo I've heard
Ah, very cool video ! It's amazing how much I preferred the Soyuz and it's sweetness instantly to be honest :) The Manley is very sharp and bright, which can be great. But it definitely seems way less forgiving for most vocalists I think. Context is always the key !
All things considered (settings, gain, plugins etc...) it was the Manley for me on every take, both solo as well as in the mix. That being said I am going to try this Soyuz. There is truth to what you say about having something so long that other options are not even considered, the other side of that coin though is "if it aint broke, don't fix it". I have the Manley Ref C and a VOXBOX and no matter who I'm recording female, male, rapper, singer,,,the Manley sits in the mix quickly with little to no processing and gives me a very solid starting point, from the video its impossible for me to say that the Manley is just better , as with all things its personal preference and too many factors to weigh in. Glad you found something that gives you inspiration, that's alway a good thing !
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This is really cool and I think Soyuz is an amazing company, but my results were the opposite. I had the 017 and a pair of 013s. While I did think they were killer mics, I actually got a more desirable character from the Manley Ref mic. Truthfully, they are pretty dang close. I do feel like your results speak for themselves and whatever you are doing, it works for you! Also, I thought the 013s were really responsive and had such a big sound for an SDC, in practice they just didn't work for the string instruments I was often doing. However, it seems like they just killed as drum overheads and had interesting results on piano. I opted to go for Telefunken ELAM 260 set instead and I just got more of what I need for string ensembles. They did not have as fat of low end, but I found the 013 were a bit too boomy and harsh in the high end. The T Funk 260 was just sweet and pre mixed sounding. The woody details of string instruments came through without harshness. The detail and quickness of response was killer though. I feel like the 017 has a bit of that quickness. Because of that, certain frequencies might come dynamically quicker/easier while having gentler high end. This is the opposite of what the 013 does. IDK, I wish I could own all of them in the collection, but as you stated, we have to financially decide what makes the cut sometimes! Great video! Fun tests man.
Both sound great but the Soyuz really fits so much better in that production.
This is also true of guitar tones and not just microphones on vocals. How it sits in the mix is more important than how it sounds by itself.
I’ve tried to find anything about the Soyuz I don’t like in a dozen videos; I got nothing. It’s stunning. Just picked one up.
I've been recording for 24 years and I'll be honest...I dont hear a difference lol. I'll gladly take either
I really think that what you showed is cool
Wow. Kinda outclassed the manley. I did like it better even in solo. But yeah, listening in solo is crazy, in context, topend get smoothen alot, and mid/lowmid gets dissolved to a high degree in my experience
Great video! From my experience RMS matching works much better for comparing stuff. because one pesky peak could lower the whole tracks level.. also, why would you add the same amount of high frequency boost to the brighter mic? just some thoughts, not a rant! ;)
I’ve been working on Mc matching cheap mics by flipping the phase of one on the same take and aiming for a -24db cancellation . Never will get a complete cancellation because of the high end wave lengths being so small that stacked mics are still too far apart on position from the live sound source
The Manley almost sounded a little farther away, like it has a less pronounced proximity maybe. Does it have a wider pickup pattern my chance? Try doing a test where you talk into the back of each mic. Which ever one has more rejection will usually have a more pronounced proximity effect.
This video is pure gold, and he's recording through the Burl B80 Mothership so the A/D is as good as it gets. Totally natural analog sound.
Wouldn’t adding a boost to the mids in the Manley compensate a bit to get a closer effect sound as the Soyuz?
Both mics slay. The tone of the Soyuz is pleasing, better smoother mids. Even thought its slightly darker, it's more mouth clikcy for some reason, and that's really annoying.
Hay you might find this interesting!! I checked out the video last night before bed on a small 32in tv.. The speaker is so small.. I was shocked i could tell the difference. The Soyuz sounds so thick. Just checked out the vid in the studio.. Man they both sound amazing!!! But I still like the Soyuz..