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no hate at all here but surprising to see pacheco and wicks here, two guys that are being shouted from the top of mountains by other channels, interesting take and good insight on the contract and job security for pacheco
Disagree on the Wicks being the one to fade. Doubs is good at specific things, but basically is what he is already. Wicks came on in the back half of the year and showed an ability to fill multiple roles. Doubs may be the higher floor, but that floor is flex territory. Wicks has the ceiling that you want out of that range of guys.
Wicks is definitely more of a “hold” to me. Not sure I’m going to get a ton of value in return for him unless I find a VERY enthusiastic Wicks guy. Basically I need to find another me, because I am “enthusiastic Wicks guy” 😂
I'm very enthusiastic wicks guy. However I'm a Packers fan and I picked him up before everyone else after I saw him cook the bears DBs 2 different times week 1 even tho he wasnt targeted on those plays
Agree with Pacheco. Love his dawg mentality but this may be his peak. Rebuilding so I shopped him for 2025 (early to mid 1st most likely) and 2026 2nd. 2025 RBs are gonna be🔥.
Pacheco should score even more points if the Chiefs offense improves like projected to. He will have more red zone touches, and he will get more receiving work with McKinnon gone. I'd wait and sell him after his value gets higher.
Only thing with Pacheco is that he very easily could be a top 6 producing rb this year as Pacheco will get a bump in the pass game with no McKinnon. Pacheco averaged over 20+ ppg when McKinnon was out last year and I think that's what we can use to project for his production of this year
If that does happen and he does get more receiving work, you’re right his ceiling is much higher. For us we just think they’re going to use multiple backs like usual.
Have you looked at the separation stats on Wicks. I heard they were better than JJ. & he was a rookie. Seems like he has the potential to be something. Sucks that he’s in such a crowded WR room, but I’m holding
I’m a big time Packers fan and imo doubs is going to be our #4. Watson and Wicks have the ability to become legit wr1. Wicks is a stud route runner, he finished 1st overall by pff in route win % vs man coverage. His release package is also top notch. Reminds a lot of us Packers fans of Adams. Long way to go to get there but you watch him off the line and at the top of routes you understand.
I'm about to do an expansion draft in my 1QB Salary Cap dynasty league and Pacheco is on my radar because he's relatively high and relatively cheap ($3.25 salary, $150 salary cap, 22-man rosters)... should I target him, target him and try to trade him, or just avoid? Thanks!
Depends on the scoring settings in your league but if it's a regular full ppr start 10 or 11 with no ppc, then being elite at QB and WR is much more important
I would keep your qbs and wrs. Both qbs have qb1 upside depending on matchup and depending on whether or not deshaun can return to form which I believe he can. Your wrs are elite. Maybe try to trade higgins to someone who isn't aware of his situation with a t law or watson to get a top tier qb.
Stay away from the Steelers offense in general? You do realize who the OC there is now, yea? Arthur Smith always has, and always will prioritize the running game to an alarming degree. You can hate on Najee and Warren’s ‘talent’ all day long - but from a process standpoint - both are set up to have a significantly better season than 23. Both backs are pretty obvious sell candidates IN SEASON - not right now.
I agree, I’m not high on Najee at all. I like Warren a lot but both of these guys are going to have much better seasons under Arther Smith. If either of them go down with injury, the other becomes a top 15 RB immediately.
Rebuilding team - I am holding Wicks. Don’t feel like I could get the draft capital for him that I want. I also think he does have a lot of upside and draws so many comps to being the next Davante Adams.
Packer fan here. Love Wicks but it’s very crowded. I would find out/chat with some of the guys around the league and see who also likes him so you can trade off. Great ability and great tape but that doesn’t always equate to fantasy points. Hard to see them now spreading the ball around. Also I promise the packers will run more this year with that dynamic RB combo.
Love the Stroud Sell idea. Bold but logical. And sold Pacheco a month ago. Dont agree on Wicks at all - for his price now I'll take a chance that Wicks hits!
Hold Warren, anyone who watched him last year knows he is a difference maker. The Steelers are going to run the ball 500 times this year with Smith so he will have plenty of opportunity. And once Najee is gone next year which is likely, it's warrens backfield
12 team st 10 SF no TEP qb Burrow ARich Carr Winston Rb etienne mixon Henry zeke Wr AJB Metcalf cooper mclaurin shaheed Te Andrews Engram I have 2.13 3.06 4.06 and 4.12 this year 2025 1st 2 2nds 2 3rds 4th 2026 1st 2 3rd 2 4ths rookie draft is this Friday Should I make any moves this year? Should I move dk for a first in 2024 draft and try to grab a younger wr? Who should I grab at my picks and 2.13 is loser bracket prize.
I think the Wicks take isn’t going to age well. Thanks for the video! Let me add…I think you guys are driving the car looking out of the rear view mirror too much on this one.
We didn’t say that at all - nor did we imply it. The point was CEH got plenty of workload one year and the chiefs still turned away from him the next year despite him being in the same RB room.
You can say Dontayvion Wicks is a sell, that’s fine. But I at least want you guys to acknowledge why people think he is a buy instead of listing counting stats. The belief is that his advanced metrics (YPRR, first down numbers) are good enough that he will outshine the others in the room over time.
Teams will replace these running backs at the drop of a hat. The only multi year safety an RB can have is recent high draft capital or guaranteed money. Pacheco has neither rb1 production nor long term security. Good point
I agree... Same with Reed. Doubs seems to be the go-to guy am I wrong? It's kind of like DK on the Seahawks a few years ago when lockett was still clearly the guy.
Some of the more important metrics don’t exactly favour Doubs. He was the worst packer WR in yards per route run while Reed and Wicks were ranked 27th and 24th in the NFL Him leading the team in targets yet only having 10.26 points per game in PPR is exactly why people want the other WR’s over him. If Reed had less snaps and targets yet scored more points on the season by 40 and that was in 1 less game, why would you want Doubs
Ooh that’s tough. I understand the want for a guy like Allen, but he has some big time hesitations in a 6pt league imo. 1. Runs a lot: positive for production, but not as much of a boost in 6pt ptd. Also, leads to more injuries. 2. Lost Diggs and Davis: only returning cornerstone receiver is Kincaid, and that criminally hurts his upside in 6pt 3. James cook has begun to command more work in the red zone, and Allen will likely not score as many tds this coming season. Final thoughts: CJ improved week to week, and now has Diggs alongside Nico(absolute stud) and Dell(also a stud). In a 6pt league, CJ is in a veeeery good spot and will likely take another step forward this year. Plus, Young is also in an improved offense this year and is likely to get you more than “throw in” value in a future deal. I definitely understand the move based on your team’s ability to compete, but it’s a lot to give for Allen in a 6pt.
@@gersonsantos8874 kinda hard to say for sure. Keon is a high risk long term play with big upside, and Diggs hasn’t played a snap for the Texans yet so that situation is also pretty hard to evaluate. Plus, he’s essentially on a one year contract. I’d probably still take Diggs and the 2nd though. Especially if the 2nd is from a non contending team. For rookie receivers, I always watch what Steve Smith has to say. In the case of Keon, SS wasn’t too big on him, and the only thing really going for him is lack of competition and draft capital. Hes young so he can still develop, but there are way too many areas that he needs to improve on for me to feel comfortable with him as a starter on a contending team during the first few weeks of the season.
@@IAMLEGIT2323 thanks man. Thought I would be overpaying but might be worth it to go all in. I guess it really depends on if Bryce can develop into a starting caliber qb
dont you disrespect my glorious king, Isiah Pacheco. value gonna go up with mckinnon gone he will get more receiving work. They only relied on him more as the season progressed last year
The gurus want you to get rid of stroud cuz he doesn't run. Who cares if doesn't get 700 rushing yards, I will take 4.000 yards passing and 30 plus tds anytime
@@mohammadomar7375 I mean I’m recording a UA-cam video live on the spot and came up with an example trade off the top of my head and that’s what you comment on 😑
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no hate at all here but surprising to see pacheco and wicks here, two guys that are being shouted from the top of mountains by other channels, interesting take and good insight on the contract and job security for pacheco
The cutoff after Nathan starts talking about who is ranked near Warren. Priceless.
I’m keeping stroud…..I’ll take a future 10x pro bowl qb and potential future hall of fame qb.
I dropped the ball on a trade. I was offered Hurts & Stevenson for Stroud
But the low ceiling tho? If you play in a 6 pt passing td then I’d hold. But statue qbs are inherently capped in value.
Everyone said the same thing about Baker after his rookie year
Nowhere did baker look like stroud for the entire duration of his rookie season….well if you watched lol
me too!
Disagree on the Wicks being the one to fade. Doubs is good at specific things, but basically is what he is already. Wicks came on in the back half of the year and showed an ability to fill multiple roles. Doubs may be the higher floor, but that floor is flex territory. Wicks has the ceiling that you want out of that range of guys.
Domain on vacation goes nuts guys I’m telling you. Almost better than some
Avery just re saying all the people Nathan listed during the Baker Mayfield segment was absolutely hilarious
Wicks is definitely more of a “hold” to me. Not sure I’m going to get a ton of value in return for him unless I find a VERY enthusiastic Wicks guy. Basically I need to find another me, because I am “enthusiastic Wicks guy” 😂
I'm very enthusiastic wicks guy. However I'm a Packers fan and I picked him up before everyone else after I saw him cook the bears DBs 2 different times week 1 even tho he wasnt targeted on those plays
Don't listen to these fools. Wicks is going to be a monster
Agree with Pacheco. Love his dawg mentality but this may be his peak. Rebuilding so I shopped him for 2025 (early to mid 1st most likely) and 2026 2nd. 2025 RBs are gonna be🔥.
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Pacheco should score even more points if the Chiefs offense improves like projected to. He will have more red zone touches, and he will get more receiving work with McKinnon gone. I'd wait and sell him after his value gets higher.
Only thing with Pacheco is that he very easily could be a top 6 producing rb this year as Pacheco will get a bump in the pass game with no McKinnon. Pacheco averaged over 20+ ppg when McKinnon was out last year and I think that's what we can use to project for his production of this year
If that does happen and he does get more receiving work, you’re right his ceiling is much higher. For us we just think they’re going to use multiple backs like usual.
Have you looked at the separation stats on Wicks. I heard they were better than JJ. & he was a rookie. Seems like he has the potential to be something. Sucks that he’s in such a crowded WR room, but I’m holding
I’m a big time Packers fan and imo doubs is going to be our #4. Watson and Wicks have the ability to become legit wr1. Wicks is a stud route runner, he finished 1st overall by pff in route win % vs man coverage. His release package is also top notch. Reminds a lot of us Packers fans of Adams. Long way to go to get there but you watch him off the line and at the top of routes you understand.
This makes sense! Def trust a packers fan more than the average person
1/2 ppr superflex deep rosters
JSN & 26 2nd
Or
Zay Flowers and 25 3rd?
I’m torn on this trade. I have JSN.
I sold off D. Henry/pacheco for CMC/Corrum
12 man SF Dynasty
I now have J. Brooks/Corrum/Lloyd/CMC/Gibbs/T. Chandler as my RBs
What do y’all think?
Fire
Good trade
I'm about to do an expansion draft in my 1QB Salary Cap dynasty league and Pacheco is on my radar because he's relatively high and relatively cheap ($3.25 salary, $150 salary cap, 22-man rosters)... should I target him, target him and try to trade him, or just avoid? Thanks!
Day after my startup draft this year I traded cj stroud for Caleb Williams, Adonai Mitchell, and a 1st next year
Warren is my RB1 rn though based on my build. Is it worth having dog water RBs to be elite everywhere else?
Depends on the scoring settings in your league but if it's a regular full ppr start 10 or 11 with no ppc, then being elite at QB and WR is much more important
How do I value Stroud in a 10 team SF? I got offered Stroud and Javonte for TLaw, Rachaad, and a 2025 1st. My current QBs are Goff, Lawrence and Maye
*only if your team is completely depleted should you sell stroud
Im WR Factory, should I try to rotate to Elite QB? QB 1 is TLaw QB 2 is Deshaun. WR room is Marv Jr, Puka, London, Flowers, Higgins
Really depends on the rest of your team! If you havent gotten a blueprint, I’d recommend it so we can give you some specific moves for that team :)
I would keep your qbs and wrs. Both qbs have qb1 upside depending on matchup and depending on whether or not deshaun can return to form which I believe he can. Your wrs are elite. Maybe try to trade higgins to someone who isn't aware of his situation with a t law or watson to get a top tier qb.
Stay away from the Steelers offense in general? You do realize who the OC there is now, yea? Arthur Smith always has, and always will prioritize the running game to an alarming degree. You can hate on Najee and Warren’s ‘talent’ all day long - but from a process standpoint - both are set up to have a significantly better season than 23. Both backs are pretty obvious sell candidates IN SEASON - not right now.
I agree, I’m not high on Najee at all. I like Warren a lot but both of these guys are going to have much better seasons under Arther Smith. If either of them go down with injury, the other becomes a top 15 RB immediately.
Rebuilding team - I am holding Wicks. Don’t feel like I could get the draft capital for him that I want. I also think he does have a lot of upside and draws so many comps to being the next Davante Adams.
That is a LOFTY comparison, but go with your gut!
Packer fan here. Love Wicks but it’s very crowded. I would find out/chat with some of the guys around the league and see who also likes him so you can trade off. Great ability and great tape but that doesn’t always equate to fantasy points. Hard to see them now spreading the ball around. Also I promise the packers will run more this year with that dynamic RB combo.
Love the Stroud Sell idea. Bold but logical. And sold Pacheco a month ago. Dont agree on Wicks at all - for his price now I'll take a chance that Wicks hits!
Should I trade Warren for Javonte? Or what should I look for Warren?
Hold Warren, anyone who watched him last year knows he is a difference maker. The Steelers are going to run the ball 500 times this year with Smith so he will have plenty of opportunity. And once Najee is gone next year which is likely, it's warrens backfield
I have Isiah Pacheco
shop him!
Keep him don’t trade him for what these guys are saying huge L
Stroud over Allen, Mahomes, Lamar or Hurts is wild to me
Stroud is definitely a better dynasty asset then Lamar and Hurts
I got wicks for free last year, so will remain patient and hope his value only increases
12 team st 10 SF no TEP
qb Burrow ARich Carr Winston
Rb etienne mixon Henry zeke
Wr AJB Metcalf cooper mclaurin shaheed
Te Andrews Engram
I have 2.13 3.06 4.06 and 4.12 this year
2025 1st 2 2nds 2 3rds 4th
2026 1st 2 3rd 2 4ths
rookie draft is this Friday
Should I make any moves this year? Should I move dk for a first in 2024 draft and try to grab a younger wr? Who should I grab at my picks and 2.13 is loser bracket prize.
I think the Wicks take isn’t going to age well. Thanks for the video!
Let me add…I think you guys are driving the car looking out of the rear view mirror too much on this one.
I have CJ stroud and Jordan love in a 1 QB dynasty. Who do I keep?
Implying that pachecos usage is gonna decrease because cehs was similar is weird lol one guy produced and the other didnt.
We didn’t say that at all - nor did we imply it. The point was CEH got plenty of workload one year and the chiefs still turned away from him the next year despite him being in the same RB room.
And also- CEH produced
guys i have stroud, what if i asked for amon and bryce young for stroud? my other qbs are jlove and goff
or maybe herbert and gw? is that too much?
Sell Pacheco to me plz
You can say Dontayvion Wicks is a sell, that’s fine. But I at least want you guys to acknowledge why people think he is a buy instead of listing counting stats.
The belief is that his advanced metrics (YPRR, first down numbers) are good enough that he will outshine the others in the room over time.
Sure.
I got offered etienne and jahan Dotson for Jaylen Warren and Zay flowers. Ppr start 10. Please help
10 team superflex ppr team with mahomes at qb. Got offered Pacheco and a 25 first for my Gibbs and I was intrigued. Glad I didn’t accept
Who would win this trade?
Diggs + 2nd 2025
Or
Keon Coleman
Dynasty PPR
Pretty fair honestly
Probably mean Diggs + a 2nd but kinda depends what ya need
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With Wicks you can't just look at his game log, you gotta watch the tape because as a packers fan I may think he is our best wr
What r your thoughts on downgrading Pacheco for either mostert and a first or for c brown and a first
I'd do that, give me Chase Brown and a 1st for Pacheco all day
Traded CJ for Lamar and Tee Higgins in this 1qb league I’m in
All of these guys except Wicks are on my roster rn lol
These guys are idiots. Pacheco is the real deal. Same with stroud
Sorry we hurt your feelings 😬
Teams will replace these running backs at the drop of a hat. The only multi year safety an RB can have is recent high draft capital or guaranteed money. Pacheco has neither rb1 production nor long term security. Good point
What ever happened to that "someone else"😂
He left.
@@thedynastydomain We need a 30 for 30
As a Packers fan, why is any Packers receiver worth more than Romeo Doubs? Lead the team in targets and snaps. Watson and Wicks are overrated
I agree... Same with Reed. Doubs seems to be the go-to guy am I wrong? It's kind of like DK on the Seahawks a few years ago when lockett was still clearly the guy.
Some of the more important metrics don’t exactly favour Doubs. He was the worst packer WR in yards per route run while Reed and Wicks were ranked 27th and 24th in the NFL
Him leading the team in targets yet only having 10.26 points per game in PPR is exactly why people want the other WR’s over him.
If Reed had less snaps and targets yet scored more points on the season by 40 and that was in 1 less game, why would you want Doubs
Trade Stroud and Bryce for Josh Allen?
Dynasty 10 Team (.5 PPR) Tight End Premium (1 PPR) Superflex (6 Point per TD)
Start 10 (1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 2 FLX, 1 SF)
QB: C.J. Stroud, Kyler Murray, Bryce Young, Daniel Jones
RB: Breece Hall, Najee Harris, Zach Charbonnet
WR: CeeDee Lamb, Amon-Ra St. Brown, Jaylen Waddle, DeVonta Smith, Nico Collins, Chris Godwin
TE: Sam Laporta, Trey McBride, Luke Musgrave
PICK: 25 1st, 2nd & 3rd, 26 1st, 2nd & 3rd, 27 1st, 2nd & 3rd
Ooh that’s tough. I understand the want for a guy like Allen, but he has some big time hesitations in a 6pt league imo.
1. Runs a lot: positive for production, but not as much of a boost in 6pt ptd. Also, leads to more injuries.
2. Lost Diggs and Davis: only returning cornerstone receiver is Kincaid, and that criminally hurts his upside in 6pt
3. James cook has begun to command more work in the red zone, and Allen will likely not score as many tds this coming season.
Final thoughts: CJ improved week to week, and now has Diggs alongside Nico(absolute stud) and Dell(also a stud). In a 6pt league, CJ is in a veeeery good spot and will likely take another step forward this year. Plus, Young is also in an improved offense this year and is likely to get you more than “throw in” value in a future deal.
I definitely understand the move based on your team’s ability to compete, but it’s a lot to give for Allen in a 6pt.
@@IAMLEGIT2323who would win this trade?
Dynasty PPR
Diggs + 2n 2025
Or
Keon Coleman
@@gersonsantos8874 kinda hard to say for sure. Keon is a high risk long term play with big upside, and Diggs hasn’t played a snap for the Texans yet so that situation is also pretty hard to evaluate. Plus, he’s essentially on a one year contract.
I’d probably still take Diggs and the 2nd though. Especially if the 2nd is from a non contending team. For rookie receivers, I always watch what Steve Smith has to say. In the case of Keon, SS wasn’t too big on him, and the only thing really going for him is lack of competition and draft capital. Hes young so he can still develop, but there are way too many areas that he needs to improve on for me to feel comfortable with him as a starter on a contending team during the first few weeks of the season.
@@IAMLEGIT2323 thanks man. Thought I would be overpaying but might be worth it to go all in. I guess it really depends on if Bryce can develop into a starting caliber qb
@@IAMLEGIT2323 thank you for the answer, do you have a fantasy channel? You seem to know a lot about it
How is rb15 a mid-level rb2 when that's literally one of the top three rb2s?
dont you disrespect my glorious king, Isiah Pacheco. value gonna go up with mckinnon gone he will get more receiving work. They only relied on him more as the season progressed last year
Romeo Doubs truther. My only stubborn take.
Wicks could be WR1 or 2 on that team
stroud went 1.01 in my startup this yr
I feel like crappin on you for Wicks. 😂I agree with the segment if you input Doubs
😂 didn’t realize the strength of Wicks truthers
Wicks is a wr4 behind 3 receivers 24 or younger, why the hype?
@@mattkkm check the stats. Matt Harmon dives deep on em.
Moved off Pacheco for a 2025 1st from a projected contender.
Was it a wise move?
Definitely could've gotten more than just a 1st I feel
Stroud is definitely the biggest sell by far. His value is so overinflated
Wicks to the moon diamond hands boys
👀👀
Obviously Watson is the odd man out, all he can do is stretch the field and he can barely do that
I traded Stroud and a first for Mahomes
A little too much but mahomes is mvp this year
The disrespect to Warren is crazy.
The gurus want you to get rid of stroud cuz he doesn't run. Who cares if doesn't get 700 rushing yards, I will take 4.000 yards passing and 30 plus tds anytime
Then get Jared Goff for free and trade Stroud for a bounty.
Dynasty 1qb amon kirk cousins and 2.03 or mahomes laporta 2025 late 1st, 2.01, 3.09
Romeo "DAHbs" not Dubs
Just traded Pacheco and a 1st for LaPorta.Okay?
Heck yes
Downtiered Lamar Jackson for
Goff, Dell, 25 1st, 25 2nd, M. Lloyd
Dynasty 1qb amon ra kittle and 2.03 or mahomes laporta 2025 late first 2.01
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$50 league 2 years upfront
I can't give away Baker
Love the naj and Jaylen warren hate. Y’all wrong
Especially when I’ve got both of them :)
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Why do y’all hate Stroud so much????
Caught us
Yall are wilding wtf this is just straight up bad advice 😂
we look forward to the "Jackt12" dynasty fantasy football advice youtube channel!
Yikes I traded for him for the 1.12…
I guess I could wait until he has a big game or something to try to trade him
The amount of Stroud sell high videos… 🙄
Oops sorry. We didn’t look at other sells videos before making this 😬
But they're all valid...
Lol rashee rice and Joe burrow and a 2nd for stroud. What butter brain offers that
@@mohammadomar7375 I mean I’m recording a UA-cam video live on the spot and came up with an example trade off the top of my head and that’s what you comment on 😑
@thedynastydomain lol I mean yeah you want people commenting lol. But come on even if it was on the top of the head that's a wild trade lol.
No way I’m trading stroud lol.
Don’t blame you
First
Gay**