PREPAR3d V4 - FIRST IMPRESSIONS
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- Опубліковано 27 чер 2017
- Froogle takes a look at the latest version of Prepar3d (P3d) from Lockheed Martin.
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Thank you, thank you, thank you! I'm 62 years young and have been an FSX simmer since Adam was a flight simmer. About 4 months ago the computer I had died. So recently I've had a new high end computer built for the first time ever and I'm over the moon with the performance I'm getting. I installed FSX SE again and was confronted with the same old issues as always. You have convinced me to move onwards and upwards to P3D V4. I'm downloading it as I write this, as your synopsis of this platform has been so enlightening. It's going to be a whole new learning curve but from what I've seen and what you've described has convinced me to make the switch. You are a wealth of information and I thank you for all the work you do. You're enthusiasm for our hobby is infectious.
Best regards
Matthew
Thank you Froogle, love seeing more fs content. But more importantly is I sense the love is back on your end as well. Myself and many others could feel the frustration you had toward flight simming and it is wonderful to see the passion again. Look forward to more content. Until next time...
Worth the wait Froogle. I am glad you did this video ! You can imagine , moving from FSX Gold Edition to P3D V4 for me was a big move, I am glad I waited for the right simulator to take the place of FSX. One thing I know you will love is the water feature. The water will reflect the aircraft which is a nice touch , but what really got me was the water reacting to weather and a 3D look rolling water leaping at the aircraft. WOW! Thanks again Cheers !
Hi Pete. I was listening to the show on my way back from the airport. You have convinced me and after 8 years of flying fsx I can finally switch in to the smooth direction of p3d. The difference is something else. Thanks for the video. All the best !!
How is it? I am in the boat now? I'm skeptic of switching over
@@Pilotm1121 P3d is worth the investment. It performs far better than FSX.
Great presentation as always, have been impressed with V4 so far. Can't wait to spend a bit more time with it.
Thanks for this video, Pete. Really looking forward to seeing what you have in store with the Cherokee/Comanche. Nothing better than Froogle in an A2A prop plane.
Finally someone clearly explains the license options and makes a compelling case for the Pro version. Well done!
Dear Froogle as usual a very good piece of information. Thank you.
Thank You Froogle I allways enjoy your videos.
As usual, very clear and accurate comments... explanation of 64bits advantage is well done... keep going Froogle, I won't miss any of your shows...
Best explanation of the LM P3D license levels i've heard thus far. I know you were busy chatting away, but wish you had swiveled your head more during the flight. I kept hitting the hat switch on my yoke in front of me trying to force you to do it. :)
What a super explanation of P3D v4 pros/cons and thank you for showing us your settings. By complete coincidence, I have the same hardware (CPU/Graphics card)....
Great video, thanks froogle!
Wow. That was amazing. You are right when you say that this is a golden age in flight sim.
Great video Froogle!
Impressive video! Some great explanations. Thank you.
Excellent video
You have to be the most entertaining AND informative poster I have ever watched. Thank you for this video. I have been with FSX for over a decade, then bought into Xplane11, however that is not the online platform I need. P3dv4 I think will be what I need to change over to.
Hey Froogle great video! I just wanted to add that PREPAR3D V4.0 HOTFIX 1 was just released two days ago and avail at the manufacturer website. :)
A very well thought out explanation on 64bit environments.
You Mentioned shadows. I saw the shadows in Flight Sim World and went wow they have the same quality or better than MS Flight but I am pleasantly surprised so see P3D v4 shadows in your video at least to be MUCH better. Smiles all round.
Thoroughly fascinating video. I was always told that in flight simulating, frame rate is not important - smoothness is, and that's what you're saying Prepar3d v4 is giving you. With all of the add ons you have installed, that's a big leap forward over FSX where I'm still at.
Thanks Froogle great video very helpfull...
Informative indeed. Thanks a bunch.
Thanks Pete, very good video (awesome in fact LOL ) and I don't use that word very often. Very informative. Well done.
Good explanation thanks
Good video, very informative. I'll wait just a little bit longer before switching from FSX to P3Dv4 so as to wait for more add-ons to become P3Dv4 compatible.
Thankyou Froogle for your opinion on v4,have been a long time user of FSX and must admit i am very impressed with the smoothness of the sim.My PC is also 3 years old and running an I7 4770k at 4Ghz with a Gtx 970 using a single screen at 1080p,am very tempted :)
Thanks Froogle, VERY well done-I appreciate your effort to educate me on the whole SIM platform offerings these days....BUT now I got to spend $200 (chuckle). I've been living (and suffering) on FSX since it came out-nice to see a 64bit 'old friend evolved into a stable platform.
Great video, l enjoyed it a lot really informative. Waiting for Majestic and maybe a new machine before up grading. Noticed you are using chase plane, have you ditched Ezdok?
The way the cockpit shudders... is that a add on feature of a basic p3d feature... also seen it on pmdg dc6 . Very cool..
I had no idea about the airspace boundaries thing. Pretty cool stuff.
I'm lucky enough to be running P3Dv4 with a GTX 1080ti and I am delighted with the increased performance
LOL, bought on first day too, very happy with it, just when I was getting fully committed to X-Plane 10/11.
That was an absolutely amazing video!!! Thank you so much! :) I'm ever happier with my purchase now.
Excellent
thanks man, this help me out alot
Hi Froogle. I noticed you had duplicate taxiway signs on departure. If you forgot you have to do certain steps that are in the Orbx compatibility forums for Latinvfr ksna one is remove the 3 ksna bgl files in the orbx socal scenery that might be causing it.
Funny you should mention the smoothness of low frames, I remember that as the reason I finally was able to move over to FSX from FS9 ten years ago. The fps was horrendous compared to 9, but everything was smoother by a considerable factor at those low numbers.
Awesome Video Froogle. Any Fully Loaded's Coming Soon?
Great video as always froogle, looking forward to more A2A stuff, but yes V4 is a hugely improved sim in all the right areas and by the way, head over to the Orbx forum and get the new sound gauge file which makes the T-Duke and Legacy work perfectly with all the sounds working. Cheers.
Thanks for the excellent demo.
Can you tell me what CPU you are using now? And which one you are probably going to, if you upgrade?
I am still having a 2600k and looking for something newer to fly this sim.
Rob
Your enthusiasm makes one wonder why would you sim with anything else!
Great video - as usual!It seems that you have aleready a lot of "old" add ons installed and I would very much like to see a tutorial on how to move old add ons from FSX to p3dV4 eg. the Real Air Legacy, Active Sky Next, REX Soft Clouds + textures etc.
Here's a tip that my new instructor just taught me. As you taxi onto the runway remember "lights, camera, action" with lights meaning to turn the navy and landing lights on. Camera being set transponder to altitude. And action being takeoff
Nav^
Thanks for such an honest review. I have been trying to justify the $199 license but but have $1000's invested in scenery, navigation and aircraft that don't bridge to Prepare3D. Guess I will just have to wait for FS 2020 and hope to heck I can reuse all my existing software.
Harrison Ford approves of this landing
Ne he does not because froogle has landed on runway.
Finally made the move from V3- V4. With almost every good addon there is including $500 in Orbyx it took 8 hours. That included going to EVERY payware and downloading the latest. Only out of pocket was for V4 and upgrade to ActiveSky. Did some house cleaning and said BYE to all the dusty FSX ports and ones not flown.
JIMJAMSC :D I just made the switch today from v3 to v4 and I smiled because all I had to pay out of pocket was for v4 and the Active Sky upgrade. Ughh, I’m DL everything as we speak lol
What sucks is I moved my sim to a different hard drive... Gonna take me a month lol
I wonder how many people buy orbx airports
Been at it since Microprose F-119 in my early 20s and now at 54 I am about done with the tweaking. I have probably a grand in addons on P3D and have not played in in 3 months. I am 100% into DCS VR. My SSD is full so I deleted close to $500 in Orbyx and another $200 in weather, clouds. A realistic figure for just addons since FS9 would be $10 grand. Just on DCS I have spent $500. Its a addiction and I compare simming to frying bacon nude. Since losing my medical and injuring my back in a heli simming is really my only outlet.
JIMJAMSC Same here, I haven't flown in P3D in months, and neither DCS. DCS killed my FPS with their lighting update so I basically blew $500 on it. I think I have $1000 at least in P3D but I love it and am starting to develop airports for it.
I don't think it should cost so much, the sim alone should include the weather you have to buy, and I imagine at least one good aircraft. If there is one thing P3D and all of the flight Sims disappoint me in it's the fact that they're still in the past and don't innovate.
JIMJAMSC I guess a highlight of all of the add ons is that you can choose what you want. In many cases they cost a LOT though.
Froogle, hello! Long time since I last commented on one of your videos. As one of the few people I genuinely trust the opinion is P3D V4 now suitably supported to make the jump over? I have hung back and given the devs some time to get their products compatible. I've seen comments from PMDG's RR (someone I also have great respect of) that some devs might not be properly updating their products, as in not properly changing where their code is installed to take advantage of LM changes where by you don't need to completely reinstall the sim for updates in future. Any opinions on this?
Soo many complaints about how incremental this update is. But I’ve been out of the community for 3 years and this looks amazing to me.
Been away for a year, and so much has changed. my bank and my wife are going to hate me, it was hard enough to justify the $199 for v3 but this looks so cool.
Guess i might have to go 4k too.
Great video! Are you using a TV for your 4k display?
32:50 45:45 The invisible cloud shadows have nothing to do with your position to the sun but more with the position of the "cast cloud shadows" switch, which is off in the lighting options! ;)
I would love to get into Prepar3d v4 but I just can't afford to re-buy all my add ons for p3d :(
great video froogle, greetings from argentina. would deffenetively move to p3d v4. The only issue the add on that has to be bought twice like pmdg 747 Ve QOSII. One of the best aircraft ever
Pretty good video. I especially like your stand point on the licence and 64 bits. For the first one I really hate about everywhere those people just saying to get one or the other instead or just very simply direct to the prepar3d page and let people make their own decision.
And the same on 64 bits, as a developer I knew as PMDG's Kyle stated that it just meant the box was bigger to put things in and that it was all that 64 bits specifically brought, no more no less, anyt other stuff is engine developement :)
I'm quite happy having made the jump to v4 though I don't have the v3 view you had simply because I was still on FSX before v4, I had awaited this v4 to actually see how developers would follow to 64 bits :)
The only point is the night which I think is definitely better than FSX, and so I can imagine than v3. But I still think that right now at this very moment, the night winner is really XP even in version 10 I've not seen a simulator beat it out of the box or with addons. The rendition of the lights is just stunning, and I don't think P3D is as good as that yet. It's better but it still seem very bright outside while the night is full :p
But other than that I'm quite sure P3D if they really want to go a step forward should really plan to get things done from scratch, because no matter how much they tweak it the engine still is based on a decade old base technology and lots of things have changed, ESP at the base was not even planned for multicore which is really the norm, and I really think they are getting at the point were it will become harder and harder to make improvements.
Just like Graphic API (DirectX/OpenGL) reached a point where they were actually limiting the developers doing a lot of housekeeping stuff eating lot of CPU, while now we are slowly going to graphical application using the best of the power available with DirectX12/Vulkan.
But it's definitely an interesting time, and just as you I had been flying quite a lot less, and now I'm flying quite a bit more since P3D, and also XP11, I'm just waiting for PMDG level of quality addons on X-Plane which is my main disappointement with the platform so far, as there are addons but developers are I'd say less mature, and you often get, advanced version, pro version or even v2 versions making it really difficult to know which is the best. With IXEG being one exception which I really await to be compatible on V11.
RAW Input is actually also available in P3D V3 ;) You'll need to calibrate ALL your devices in P3D (even if you import, you'll still need to calibrate) and be sure to set sensitivity to 127 to 1. Odd that you have AA set to None? Are you managing AA via nVidia Inspector? Oh and yes, if you turned on ILS aid it would have been easier to find the intercept ... and yes that feature was in P3D V3.4.
Good explanation thanks. Can you get Saitek panels to work with P3D V4 ?
hey froogle, i have a question about moving your add ons planes like PMDG, Aerosoft etc. i bought the Aerosoft A320 from Steam when it was released to Steam users to buy. how could you or could you move that addon to P3D?
What are your system specs? I've got 18.000 hours in FS98 through FSX and was thinking about getting the pro vers. of this, but might need a new computer first. Nice video. Thx for sharing.
Edit: never mind, I saw you mention it at 38:45.
Ever had a chance to fly Professional Plus?
I'd like to get Prepar3d sometime. Don't qualify for Academic, don't have the cash for Pro, but I can wait :)
I'd sure like to see Pro Plus reviewed though :D
im surprised though it has taken LM this long though to get out a 64 bit sim but more surprising they are still using a ESP for it
Hi pete . noticed you have the 717 installed . Can't load it into my P3D.V4 . Did you use the migration tool ?
When I look up at the sun, it's darker, when it should be brighter.
Definition of "entertainment". I fly a lot and enjoy it. I am therefore paid to enjoy myself. I also have to teach and examine. So jet upsets are often practiced. They can be most entertaining especially if it all goes wrong!
Can I use Rex4 texture direct with soft clouds with Prepar3d V4? I wasn't sure from your video I only fly the A2A Comanche Will I have to pay to upgrade for the Prepar3d V4 version? Great video!!!! thank you!!!!
Excellent video Froogle for anyone thinking about moving up from FSX like I am. With lots of Orbx stuff, and the pay ware a/c for FSX, airports, etc. This is a cost savings if I can use/or upgrade to v.4. I am running 3 - 24" monitors, so i am wondering how P3D will handle them? Thanks for the videos and keep them coming!
Lennie Gamage try out X-Plane, it’s very detailed with lots of freeware to make it look like payware
Young Aviator -STOP TRYING TO PROMOTE XPLANE11-
I only learn about this simm and i got x-plane 11.20 and am disappointed with the ATC interaction so my question what type of ATC does it have could you report change of height or amend flight plan and more. Tks.
If you want to navigate to a VOR station you can just center the VOR needle on the dial and keep it there by compensating left or right.
Darren K What a strange reason to not help.
He's trying do navigate to a VOR. Presumably he thought of that spot as a nice place to show off features of the sim.
Whatever the reason, he was having trouble. So I'm trying to help him.
He can use that knowledge going forward, and so can anyone else reading my comment. But the scope of this video wasn't specifically navigation, so I shouldn't help?
Strange way of thinking.
4m28s, you see the default taxi signs, does anyone know how to get rid of those?
Hi Froogle, Long time fan and thanks for the hard work you do!
Great video on Prepar3d V4, I don't know if I'm out of line
but with all these improvements in flight simulation in
eye candy why can't we still not simulate icing?
Hope you can explain the reason why in a video.
Thank you Froogle
P.S. Don't know if carb ice is even simulated right, is it?
Look at Sim physics x at simmarket it simulates airframe icing. I hear it has a slight frame rate hit though
How do you twist knobs in a virtual reality headset? Don't get it?
Love the videos and your channel, have been watching them for quite a while. In a more recent video, you mentioned your conclusion is that primarily only 2 flight sims really stand out to you as we move forward: Prepar3d and Xplane. After watching your comparison videos and others, I have decided that xplane 11 is what i will be moving over to (from 7+ years of FSX). Why is it that if xplane 11 is one of the guys to go to, we're seeing much of the developments and "big-boy" add-ons (like A2a and pmdg) not available for xplane 11? Same thing (to a certain extent) for Carenado. Kind of bugs me that I am deciding to go with Xplane 11, yet everything is being developed for Prepar3d. What's the future of 3rd party add-one for Xplane? As always, love your work, keep it up, we're all learning a lot from you. Thanks!
Hey Froogle! If you ever get annoyed by those extra taxi signs at KSNA you just need to turn off the 3 ORBX SCA KSNA bgl files
I was always hoping that, with the dramatic increase of processing power, we'd see volumetric clouds that you actually fly through, giving a better representation of velocity. Sadly, it doesn't seem like that's on the horizon for the foreseeable future.
anyone know how to change the towercontroller view position? slew doesnt work. And the tower is too low on flytampa EHAM. its not usable for me at the moment
What sky textures are those? They're very natural and beautiful. And this is probably one of the best explained 64bit videos on UA-cam, if anyone wants to know why to upgrade this is the video you'll want to watch.
I have FSX (non steam edition) with lots of Orbx scenery add ons ans A2A add ons. What is the cost of getting them to work in Prepar3d v 4?
can i play online and also do any free flight around the world with the academic version? wondering if this is worth 60 bucks or if i should just stick to fsx.
Very good explanation on 64 bit. However, this 64 bit upgrade is just the beginning in a new environment. I'm sure later updates will certainly improve and build on this environment. Just a matter of time now. Until v5 we'll definitely see incredible improvements.
Read all about what top framerates monitors are capable of. ( If you haven't already ) It's apparently around 60 fps, unless you have a faster 120hz monitor.
Of course our GPUs can do much, much more. But anything over that, starts smearing 1/2 frames into your full frames.
Anything much above 80 fps on a 60 fps capable monitor starts actually degrading into diminishing returns of screen quality. No?
I've been playing games at over 100 fps for years, until, I recently found out the truth. LOL!
Fantastic Video! Thanks for this important deep dive, into Prepar3D v4! Everyone interested should consider this excellent presentation.
14:42 - Froogle likes big "but"s and cannot lie :D
and the other pilots can't deny
What's with the rhymes? I just wanna fly!
do you get much scenery popping and flashing like in FSX?
Does somebody knows if the simulator comes with the runways numbers, freqs , etc current to 2021?
And in the opposite case how do you update them?
Hey froogle, I have been a P3D user for a good while now and been able to game no problemo on my low end PC (good CPU, 710A gpu), the tricks was always to turn off tessellation... But I don't seem to find it anywhere on v4... It seems to be stuck on forever. Do you know anything about that?
Really liked this video, a fair and in my opinion an unbiased review. But I have a question. If you buy Prepar3d and you have a conscience it is $200, X Plane is $59. If you had NOT invested in add ons for Prepar3d would you still have bought it? I know you said get both, but your average Joe can not afford to get both and all the add ons.
I am fully committed to X-Plane, but looking at your videos about p3dv4 I get an itch to try it, however for me it looks very cartoonish. Is there a way to get the sky less saturated and the ground textures less glowing?
There are a lot of shaders that you can use. I'm using PTA with RealismShaderPack V1.1. There a dozens of p3d shaders available and PTA allows most of then to be tweaked a bit..
However test you settings both in daytime and during the night. With some shaders the total sim get's to dark and can almost see nothing. Which is a shame when you've spent hundreds of dollars on scenery and utilities like AS and ASCA..
How did you get the A2A plane on v4? Simconect its not working for me!! Can you help?
There is a circle on concrete TWY Alpha at about 4:52. It has a triangle pointing North with a 3 in it. Look on Google Maps if necessary. What the heck are those Circle and triangles? They are not VOR checkpoints as, KSNA only has VOT.
Hi Froogle, do you use an air traffic add-on on P3D?
Hi, Thank you. Captain. You need Hot fix for PeD v4. Is out
Could somebody clarify .. I have P3dV3, do I need to buy P3dV4? Thanks in advance.
I will just wait for the next big patch before getting a new licence though.
You have explained everything perfectly and I thank you. Accordingly and going along with the KISS principle, my system is elderly(like the owner) and needs an upgrade or replacement. Presently I am operating a i7-2600, 3.40, 12GB 64 bit with a GTX 650. I am enjoying P3Dv4 after many many years with FSX, even though my system is old. Primarily because I am not suffering from the OOM. I would appreciate any advice you could give me as to upgrade. Again thank you.
Thanks Mike.
My home airport 👌
How do you get addon's into this sim. I've never used it before.
Hi Froogle! What add-on makes that epic fog effect?
ActiveSky2016 for P3D V4. this is a different version from the regular AS2016 versio, but is covered with the same license. If you already have an previous ActiveSky license (like AS2012 of ASN) you can opt for the upgrade license..
Than there is also Active Sky Cloud Art (ASCA) which dynamically updates your weather theme based on the current metar data.
what are the addons in this video, froogle ? Thanks for the video :D
I have a problem. There is no sun in the sky. I can see the reflections in the plane and water, also the runway. But the sun is completely missing. Can someone please guide me how to fix this issue?
Hi
which pc hardware you use for this game/simulator? also how about the amd apu? what is the good recommanded pc build for 1920 x 1080 single display at good rate but affordable price? what do you recommand
my pc :
Intel core 2 due 2 Ghz
integrated graphics
4 gb ram
250 gb hdd
using dell laptop (old one)
windows 7 pro 32bit