Was wondering about that indeed. Perhaps next time use/script keywords like larger/smaller, ie "changes like a 5.78m larger fuselage" to emphasize a comparison as a "5.78m fuselage" is technically (albeit illogical) a change .
Having been a Licensed Aero Maintenance Engineer for the best part of 3 decades on the likes of DC9..B727..A300 and the Fokker F27 Friendship..I would gladly say that the F27 was the best built Aircraft of the lot..The quality of workmanship and the life of its component parts often exceeded twice the others..and such a pleasure to work on as well.
At my 5th of age, mid 90' travelling from ujungpandang (makassar) to sorong irian jaya with merpati airlines, 2.5 hours flight with turbulence and thunderstorm at roughly 30.000ft this magnificent F28 stood still and dancing with the weather while my parents are start praying all over the way, and I'm just smiling admire the thunder that struck the wingtips, laughing with the turbulence and landed safely at sorong jefman airport, I step down the plane and staring it back while saying thank you for giving me the fun ride that I will never forget. if only I could turn back the time...
I was one of the first line Captains on the F100 for American Airlines. Loved flying that little jet (I retired on the B777). We had a Fokker rep and a Rolls Royce rep sitting in first class on every leg for a few months to ensure a smooth rollout. Unfortunately, Fokker delivered the first planes behind schedule and the initial cadre of mechanics who'd trained for the jet had a job run bid cycle come up and many bid to more senior slots that took them off the F100. That put a huge crimp in maintenance during the initial introduction of the plane for AA, and the Fokker rep was busy nearly every time we were on the gate giving OJT to AA maintenance personnel. The Rolls rep just sat in his comfy seat and sipped tea. It was a great airplane that AA management had no idea how to properly deploy in the market. Fun to fly, very well built aircraft, and they were brand new!
My brother worked for Fokker until bankruptcy. I have flown on a Fokker 100 from Amsterdam to Geneva in the early 2000's and I could see why he was so proud of the jet when it first came out. The smoothest ride ever.
The wings of Fokkers were made by Short Brothers in Belfast They produced 241 F28 main wings ; 283 for the F100 and 48 for the F70 .Fokker produced the outer wings for the Shorts 330/360 which along with the Skyvan variants were the highest volume produced UK commercial aircraft since 1945 with 496 sold -outselling even the Vickers Viscount total of 444.
One of my favorite airplanes of all time. Beautiful and efficient, flew them many times. A shame not a single mention or photo of TAM on the video, though. The airline was the second largest operators of F-100, completely boosting TAM`s position in Brazilian market and reshaping our industry. Their original 90s livery on the Fokker were also hot as hell.
I flew on them many times in Brazil and Mexico. It was a very comfortable ride. Sadly, after TAM's 1996 crash, many people refused to travel on the F-100
I flew several times in these around the 2000´s and it was always a pleasant experience; Click Mexicana used the Fokker 100 for its regional routes in Mexico.
@@santagemma6212 you state your point but I maintain that all Fokker aircraft were popular for inter- European flights in the 80’s and 90’s not matter what Embraer were doing.
TAM, a Brazilian airline (now LATAM), had a fleet of 50 Fokker 100. They were very competitive and very popular for regional flights. In 2002, they were all replaced by Airbus and Boeing aircraft.
IMO one of the best aircraft out there, the design looks and feels perfect for a rear engine aircraft, and the engine has one of the most outstanding sound in the aircraft universe.
This vid seems hastily made since it was more than just another plane but revolutionary for its important novelties alike large parts of the wings being glued and the massive introduction of flight electronics. Could say that Airbus continued on this. Together with its supreme built quality those are key reasons for the machine still flying around in a considerable number.
@@edofluit6568 maybe - but he's right. The F100 was way ahead of it's time. The wing is an incredible design, no leading edge devices, capable of slow speed flight with Flap zero take offs at max gross weight, with an envelope up to .77M - try doing that with any Boeing aircraft. The EFIS and FMP/S also decades ahead of it's time - along with the introduction of alpha floor protection- designed by the same engineers that went on to Airbus
@@MrRem7600 yea oke. I just never trust if someone says their own country is the best. doesnt seem objective most of the time, but purely based on the fact they were born there. I am dutch myself soo :P
One of my favorite aircrafts. I flew frequently KLM Fokker 100 from Frankfurt to Amsterdam and Malev Fokker 70 from Frankfurt to Budapest. I enjoyed both types. To tell the truth aircrafts with the rear engines design are my favorites
I flew on a Fokker 70 once. It was owned by my company (Ford Motor Co) for transporting employees to various facilities on a scheduled basis, and was arranged with an all-business-class (2-2 seating) layout. It was a very comfortable aircraft, smooth, and seemed well-built.
Alliance Airlines purchased the two owned by Ford Motor Company, now registered VH-JFE and VH-JFB they are configured at this stage as 2-3 layout but they still have the 2-2 business class seats for special tours etc.
Flew captain on these for a couple of years for AA. In Texas we called it the Dutch Oven due to the weak air conditioning system. It was also so slow that controllers had to vector you all over the place to keep you from being run over by just about every other jet type out there. We used to joke that Fokker had to install protective screening at the back of the engines to protect them from fast flying geese. Just a few of my memories.
@@bastarddoggy I was on the 727's in those days. I went on the Fokker after they parked the mighty 727.... anything to avoid the MD-80. You probably did pump me some go juice in there somewhere though. Thanks !
I'm currently an Australian flight attendant on the Fokker 100, and the 70! She's a bloody good aircraft- will be sad to see them phased out in the coming 5-10 years.
Those rear-engined jets are some of the nicest looking airplanes ever made. Sometimes can't be unstalled, but hey, you're not supposed to stall an airliner anyway, right?
I have flown many times on F100s mostly beetween 1998 and 2003 on TAM airlines in Brazil. Also, being a pilot in pre-2001 era allowed me to jump seat riding on several occasions. Great regional jet, very cockpit for its time. Also flown in AA F100 from DFW to Monterrey MX in 2003. Last time was in Avianca, CNF-CGH, c.2010. Lot's of good memories aboard F100s. Thanks for posting another great video! Cheers from Brazil.
I have thousands of hours as an F-100 Captain. It was a nice flying aircraft. The Speed brake in the tail was very effective for getting down and slowing down. The avionic where good. Love the tape engines gauges. Never understood why more aircraft don't use them. Very easy to read. The air conditioning was horrible! The air source was in the engines in the tail of the aircraft. The air conditioning packs were under the cockpit in the nose of the aircraft ( Which made the cockpit extremely noisy! ) The outflow valve was in the wheel well which resulted in almost zero air flow in the back half of the aircraft. On short duration flights on hot days it was impossible to cool the cabin down to a comfortable level. I picked up an aircraft one hot summer day. One of the inbound flight attendants was being carried off suffering from heat stroke. The aircraft could be down right dangerous in winter conditions. With no leading edge devices the wing was very vulnerable to loss of lift with even the tiniest amount of contamination. The radar also left a lot to be desired. If you get in very light precipitation it would attenuate badly and not show returns more than about 15 miles ahead of you. All in all, I was very happy when I was able to bid off the F-100.
i work on them at school, but didn't you mean th whole elctrical system? That's a lot of noise. But the plane has those wings for it's performance at gravel and other unpaved runways. Slats could be used at the F100 because some f28 had them to. Those airconditioning could be damaged because alliance airlines have a lot of them and never heard something like that. even from my own teachers. So that looks not right to me. But I am glad you were a Captain on it. Someone who choose the good ones
@@jouniairplanevideos I was told that the landing gears were problematic on the early F-100's. Fokker had neglected to modify the landing gears used on the early F-28's and the increased weight of the F-100 caused early failures of the landing gear.
I had a few flights on the F28 when it was operated by Canadian Regional. Great little plane and relatively quiet thanks to the rear mounted engines. I would purposely walk to the galley at the rear just to listen to those turbojets.
The fleet of F28s sat abandoned at the Saskatoon airport up until recently. The engines had been removed. Air Canada abandoned those planes when the Canadien and Air Canada merged.
One of my best friends is an airline pilot (Captain) and started by flying the Fokker 100. I never managed to fly with him, but later (after he switched to Embraers) I got lucky and got to fly on a Fokker with Helvetica. I'm happy I managed to experience it.
Proud to be Dutch I made my first flight in the F-27 Friendship. Together with another friend I made a return trip Amsterdam - Paris; my friends' first flight in the F-100. Several flights with KLM Cityhopper's F70 and 100 gives me a nice rememberance of our Dutch craftmanschip. It is sad that it was not possible to safe this industry from bankrupcy....
It was possible, but our government was really into the neoliberal thinking at the time, while other countries invested huge sums of money in for example Airbus.
@@van0tot100 You are right! Also the deal with the German DASA wasn't the most delight moment in the Dutch industral histories with political intervention
They were quite often scheduled on my return flight from Zurich to Manchester (but strangely never on the outbound which was either an A319/320 or an Avro). I really liked them, very much more than the Embraer which replaced them, and with the notable exception (not in a good way - forward loo taken out of service, fittings removed and being used for storage, along with copious use of silicone sealant elsewhere to keep broken items in place) of one which was retired the following week, always immaculately turned out by Helvetic.
I rode the Fokker 70 twice when I was a child. Last of these was a klm cityhopper flight from Amsterdam to Bergen. Since that flight the Fokker Jets have kept a special place in my heart and if things go as planned, I get to learn aircraft maintenance skills on a Fokker 100 and an F28 Fellowship somewhere next year at a local airbase.
Sounds like these amazing aircraft were years ahead of there time. Just like the Bombardier C series’s jet both companies couldn’t take the aircraft to the end and make them the true engineering marvel that they are. Cheers 🇨🇦
I took one of the last KLM Fokker70s to Norwich in England and back to Amsterdam in October 2017. Besides it being a fun filled weekend, the Fokker surprised me, when compared to the Embraers and CRJs I had flown on before. It really was a comfortable little racer and I truly enjoyed those flights.
I really liked the F70 an d F100. My former employer used the for al very long time. I especially remember the no-flaps take-off which at first seemed rather weird, but it worked well The pilots loved it. Also cool was the aerodynamic brake at the rear.
I flew on this plane in 2011 from Vienna to St Petersburg, one of my most memorable flights, this cute little Fokker will always have a special place in my heart
In early 1989 I flew in one of Swissair’s new F100s from Rome to Zürich. I’d assumed it was a Mad Dog till I read the safety card. Complicated journey from Trivandrum to London…. Later that year I flew Edinburgh-Stavanger in an F27 - lovely big windows! The F50 was no doubt more efficient, but I preferred the big windows and whistling Darts of the original. I once flew from London to Lyon via Marseille in an F28: the direct Lyon flight had been cancelled because of a a cracked window on the other F28. So I’ve flown all the Fokker jets and turboprops except the F70.
The F100 was the first aircraft I was checked out on as cabin crew with AirUK. It was a lovely machine to fly on. It had a very light and airy cabin in comparison to our 146s. They climbed like homesick angels, and unusually, the take-offs were flapless (except Aberdeen). Certainly very quiet if you were working the front half of the cabin too. The machine above Amsterdam Schiphol is an ex AirUK one that was absorbed by KLM Cityhopper (G-UKFE as was)
We flew almost exclusively on KLM back in the 80s and through the 90s. I’d always notice the NLM fleet of Fokker planes and wish we had opportunities to fly on them.
I flew with Asseman from Dubai to Bushehr, it had something nice flying as Dutchman in a dutch plane to Iran. On one occasion there was a sandstorm after some delay the flight took of from Dubai and during the whole flight the only thing visible out of the windows was the color of sand. Shortly before landing the captain made an announcement in farsi, no idea what he said but the people started praying. The next you could feel was that the plane landed, the view from the window wasn't changed. Only when arriving at the terminal we could see the groundcrew applauding with their hands in the air. Till this day I rather fly in an old F100 than an 737max
About 10 years ago I worked on a project in the UK. Being from The Netherlands, I flew back and forth a lot. At least one time that was with one of these aircraft, either a Fokker 70 or 100, operated by KLM Cityhopper. However, they were replaced by Embraers, which I flew on on subsequent flights. I think flight attendants preferred the Embraer, and it was more spacious. Still, being a Dutch guy, there was a sense of pride about these Fokkers.
I have flown many a F-28 and F-100 with US Airways both great aircraft. Here is a little interesting side note only 2 F-70 were ever operated in the US flying with DesertSun /Mesa Air Group operating as America West Express based in PHX.
Well, I for one am happy I got to fly in the 28 and the 100. It blew my mind how quiet those planes are, that is until you hear the air brake deploying on the 28.
I flew in one of these from Dallas, TX to Leon, Mexico on American Airlines back in the late 90s. It was my first international flight segment, now that I think about it.
I flew more than twice on this plane, it’s one of my favourites, here in Mexico, Mexicana de Aviación owned a large number of them, they were gorgeous with Mexicana 90s livery, I was amazed how loud its Rolls Royce were and the fact that they didn’t have slats and could perform take offs without flaps extended. Such a beautiful airplane, maybe only behind the Boeing 727
Never flew on a Fokker 100 but did work there while the first prototype was being built. We used to walk through the factory at lunchtime and have a good look around. This was at the time when the Fokker 50 was also undergoing flight trials. Good times.
Swissair had a small fleet of them, used to fly it regularly on the Zurich-Berlin trip. I think it was le last short range jets with real business seating before the business seats as considered today.
I flew on KLM‘s Fokker 100‘s and Fokker 50‘s (an development of the F 27 turboprop). The former on route Amsterdam Cardiff and back, the latter on Cologne - Amsterdam route (and back). Both very nice and great aircraft, miss them.
When returning home from active duty I caught a connecting flight from Washington National to Lynchburg on a Piedmont F28. My first thought was, when did Piedmont get DC9s before realizing it was smaller. I recall it was a comfortable smooth flight.
I flew in a Fokker 100 from Mexico City to Tuxtla and then from there to Cancún with two stops at Villahermosa and Mérida, a rather long and tortuous route, but I guess it made commercial sense to regional airline Aviacsa back in 1992. It had fantastic acceleration at takeoff!
My first flight was in a Fokker 70. Smooth ride over the alps. I have been working on and around Amsterdam Schiphol Airport for a long time, and you could hear when a Fokker 70/100 departed or arrived, they made a significant sound. It's a pity Fokker as gone bankrupt.
Have checked my passenger flight log, and I have recorded 80 flights in the Fokker 100, first one of which was on board Swissair Fokker 100 HB-IVH from BSL to LHR on 4th April, 1989. Then there have also been 10 flights in Fokker 70s (KLM and Austrian). My last recorded flight was on board KLM Fokker 70 from AMS to FRA on 13 June, 2013. In between I did a lot of commuting between TXL and FKB on Air Berlin. From earlier years I have also logged 10 flights in Fokker F28s.
I flew many many flights within Europe on both NLM and KLM 4 flights each on Air France and Swissair and a single flight each on Austrian Airlines and PGA Portugalia Airlines. In North America, I flew many flights on both American and Canadian Airlines, plus at least half a dozen or so round trip flights with Intair, from Montreal's third airport, YHU-Saint Hubert down to Toronto's premier airport YYZ-Lester B. Pearson International, and last but by no means least a couple of round trips with Canadian North. Back then I would have to say for a regional short hall, the Fokker 70's and 100's in Europe and the Fokker 100's in North America, were my favourite airline to fly on. I found them to be less noisy, providing for a much quieter journey and more spacious and airy inside, I never felt cramped or boxed in, regardless to whether I was flying business-first or economy, compared the competition aircraft = BAC One-Eleven, DC9, and the Boeing 737-200. The only thing that surprises me, and still does to this day, is the relatively low number of aircraft ordered and built, for an airline type, that was arguably in some instances as much as 30% more fuel-efficient than its rivals, not to mention more reliable and easier to service, resulting in less downtime, that went into service with so many airlines, big and small, to entire scheduled between the carriers prime hubs and prestigious city pairs as well as the milk runs. This was also a popular aircraft with the flying public, whether for business or pleasure. There is nothing to indicate this was a bad aircraft in a shape or form. I believe the problem was that as good as the Fokker 70 and 100 were, they should have quickly established an additional 2 or 3 stretches, taking them up to the 180 seat class at least. I know that is easier said than done as you would need to design a larger wing and new landing gear capable of lifting handling the heavier payloads, then there is the question of finding the right engine, with better economics than existing models, to offer a greater range with economical savings up 30% compare to the competition and in order to be on par with that given on the Fokker 70 and 100, thus commonality across the fleet. Sadly there never in a financial situation to this. Had sales boomed for 70's and 100's maybe they would have considered an additional stretch, but with nothing planned or even on the drawing board a potential customer would be waiting 5 to 10 years prior to entry into service, whereas BAC, Boeing and now McDonald Douglas were offering customers stretch versions
In the late 1990s the Austrian carrier Tyrolean (later merged with Austrian Airlines) operated the F 100 on flights between VIE and HEL (I worked in Finland at the time, but visited my home country often for holidays or also work). I really enjoyed being a passenger on that route (this was a time, when airlines had not yet all degraded to the ultra low-cost business model). Later, when working in the Netherlands I got to fly on F 100s again a few times on AMS-VIE with KLM, before eventually all these services were operated by Airbus 320-series... I always preferred the AC EFG configuration over ABC EFG, as as a single traveller one had more chance of getting AB all to oneself....
I just stumbled on your story, I was of interest to me as we fly to and from our regional work aka FIFO Fly In Fly Out every Friday for me. Yes you mentioned Alliance air, but we fly on Virgin Charter,
I live in Iran and I have been a passenger of the Fokkers many times. Something that was forgotten to mention in this video was the large number of air accidents and crashes these planes had and the deaths and casualties caused by them.
Flew on a Fokker 100 today with Alliance air in Australia, was a really comfortable flight, seats were a lot softer and had more recline than the modern Jetstar Airbus A320 I took days earlier.
I've flown several times on the Fokkers - KLM, Malev, Air France, and they were all really nice to fly on. Really cute. If you were lucky to fly upfront, generally there was a 2 + 2 layout which was pretty comfortable compared to larger aircraft like the A320. Shame they are being retired now.
Solid strong aircraft. If there is one thing that needs to be highlighted, it is the wonderful Tay engines. Until then, Swissair had never operated aircraft with RR engines. When you saw the shining eyes of the engine mechanics, it was clear that no engine of the same class could even come close to holding a candle to the RR Tay.
I flew so many Fokkers on AA out of Chicago, to Atlanta, San Antonio, and Minneapolis among other places. Once, flying Atlanta to O'Hare, we did a no-flap take-off. I think we still used less runway than a Delta L-1011 flying ATL-ORD.
I got on a US Air flight in Pittsburgh, thinking I was boarding a DC-9 series jet. It was only after I was in my seat and reaching for the safety instructions card on the seat back that I realized it was actually an F-100. It got me to my destination safely though, so I guess I have no complaints.
I have been on one, but never flew on one, nor have I ever been in one. In secondary school, I spent some weeks during my holidays working at the Fokker plant near Schiphol airport. I did cleaning work, mostly offices and other work spaces. One day, I was asked to clean the top of the wings of one of the new aircraft. So that's how I spent some time on (top of the) aircraft.
I really like how fast they accelerate on the runway and how fast they climb. On one flight I took my GPS and pressed the go home button and found out the plane was travelling at over 800km/h. Best seats to fly in are over the emergency escape exits over the wings because you have more leg room. That's 2 rows with 10 seats.
In the early 70's I flew a number of times in the predecessor - the F-28 with Piedmont Airlines. That little airplane was a regional workhorse and very pleasant as a passenger. Also had many flights in Honduras on the F-27 turboprop, a bulletproof workhorse. 👍
Both types (F70/100) were used by Austrian Airlines up until a few years ago. I absolutely loved to fly on the Fokkers, for their quirkiness and also the fact that they had 3-2 seating, so no middle seat if you picked the "right" side i. e. the left side to be precise IIRC ;-).
Note: At 01:05 the figures refer to the changes in size and not the new sizes. - TB
Was wondering about that indeed.
Perhaps next time use/script keywords like larger/smaller, ie "changes like a 5.78m larger fuselage" to emphasize a comparison as a "5.78m fuselage" is technically (albeit illogical) a change .
or probably just adding "+" in front of the number, i.e. +5.78m fuselage, +3m wingspan
I thought it was a tiny airplane with a three-meter wingspan
Incorrect at 2:14 too
My wife would always get mad when we were boarding an AA Fokker and I would say, “Let’s get this Fokker in the air!”
Lmao
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Bein dutch it took me 2 sec to get it..😊
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@@lws7394 We Dutch had also this lame Dutch / English joke...."What is a Fokker that landed in the mud (modder)?"
A "modderfokker"....
Having been a Licensed Aero Maintenance Engineer for the best part of 3 decades on the likes of DC9..B727..A300 and the Fokker F27 Friendship..I would gladly say that the F27 was the best built Aircraft of the lot..The quality of workmanship and the life of its component parts often exceeded twice the others..and such a pleasure to work on as well.
If it ain't Dutch it ain't much...
Give's me some dutch pride to hear ..👍 .
There was something with it's landing gear with few incidents where it either retracted or collapsed on various runways. What was the issue ?
At my 5th of age, mid 90' travelling from ujungpandang (makassar) to sorong irian jaya with merpati airlines, 2.5 hours flight with turbulence and thunderstorm at roughly 30.000ft this magnificent F28 stood still and dancing with the weather while my parents are start praying all over the way, and I'm just smiling admire the thunder that struck the wingtips, laughing with the turbulence and landed safely at sorong jefman airport, I step down the plane and staring it back while saying thank you for giving me the fun ride that I will never forget.
if only I could turn back the time...
I was one of the first line Captains on the F100 for American Airlines. Loved flying that little jet (I retired on the B777). We had a Fokker rep and a Rolls Royce rep sitting in first class on every leg for a few months to ensure a smooth rollout. Unfortunately, Fokker delivered the first planes behind schedule and the initial cadre of mechanics who'd trained for the jet had a job run bid cycle come up and many bid to more senior slots that took them off the F100. That put a huge crimp in maintenance during the initial introduction of the plane for AA, and the Fokker rep was busy nearly every time we were on the gate giving OJT to AA maintenance personnel. The Rolls rep just sat in his comfy seat and sipped tea. It was a great airplane that AA management had no idea how to properly deploy in the market. Fun to fly, very well built aircraft, and they were brand new!
Air Niugini has 13 Fokker units,6 Fokker 70's,7 Fokker 100's.. Worked as flight attendant on F100 doing regional flights and loved it ..
My brother worked for Fokker until bankruptcy. I have flown on a Fokker 100 from Amsterdam to Geneva in the early 2000's and I could see why he was so proud of the jet when it first came out. The smoothest ride ever.
Im 31 and still giggled all the way through it!
Not just Fokker, but Aseman, as well. I am a completely immature 38 year-old.
The wings of Fokkers were made by Short Brothers in Belfast They produced 241 F28 main wings ; 283 for the F100 and 48 for the F70 .Fokker produced the outer wings for the Shorts 330/360 which along with the Skyvan variants were the highest volume produced UK commercial aircraft since 1945 with 496 sold -outselling even the Vickers Viscount total of 444.
One of my favorite airplanes of all time. Beautiful and efficient, flew them many times. A shame not a single mention or photo of TAM on the video, though. The airline was the second largest operators of F-100, completely boosting TAM`s position in Brazilian market and reshaping our industry. Their original 90s livery on the Fokker were also hot as hell.
True, I Traveled on a TAM Fokker around 2008 from Indaiatuba to Rio de Janeiro.
Agree great aircraft .
Also agree with that. I was totally expecting to see a TAM F-100 in this video.
I flew on them many times in Brazil and Mexico. It was a very comfortable ride. Sadly, after TAM's 1996 crash, many people refused to travel on the F-100
I flew several times in these around the 2000´s and it was always a pleasant experience; Click Mexicana used the Fokker 100 for its regional routes in Mexico.
A favourite aircraft for me. Ideal for travel inside Europe. Many Fokker flights in and out of Manchester to Holland and Germany.
Too expensive to manufacture in Europe. Embraer has that edge.
@@santagemma6212 you state your point but I maintain that all Fokker aircraft were popular for inter- European flights in the 80’s and 90’s not matter what Embraer were doing.
I flew on it once from Singapore to lombok, Indonesia. Very comfortable in economy.
@@syedputra5955 they withdrew these planes where I live because of accidents. I believe it was a nice plane.
TAM, a Brazilian airline (now LATAM), had a fleet of 50 Fokker 100. They were very competitive and very popular for regional flights. In 2002, they were all replaced by Airbus and Boeing aircraft.
I flew on it with KLM and loved it. Very comfortable aircraft.
IMO one of the best aircraft out there, the design looks and feels perfect for a rear engine aircraft, and the engine has one of the most outstanding sound in the aircraft universe.
This vid seems hastily made since it was more than just another plane but revolutionary for its important novelties alike large parts of the wings being glued and the massive introduction of flight electronics. Could say that Airbus continued on this. Together with its supreme built quality those are key reasons for the machine still flying around in a considerable number.
You are right, Fokker was decades ahead of the competition and it will put the The Netherlands in front of the Hightech industry forever.
@@RoderikvanReekum nationalist
@@edofluit6568 maybe - but he's right. The F100 was way ahead of it's time. The wing is an incredible design, no leading edge devices, capable of slow speed flight with Flap zero take offs at max gross weight, with an envelope up to .77M - try doing that with any Boeing aircraft. The EFIS and FMP/S also decades ahead of it's time - along with the introduction of alpha floor protection- designed by the same engineers that went on to Airbus
@@MrRem7600 yea oke. I just never trust if someone says their own country is the best. doesnt seem objective most of the time, but purely based on the fact they were born there. I am dutch myself soo :P
That the most sensible comment I have read on the onternet for a long time. Way to fgo.@@edofluit6568
One of my favorite aircrafts. I flew frequently KLM Fokker 100 from Frankfurt to Amsterdam and Malev Fokker 70 from Frankfurt to Budapest. I enjoyed both types. To tell the truth aircrafts with the rear engines design are my favorites
I flew on a Fokker 70 once. It was owned by my company (Ford Motor Co) for transporting employees to various facilities on a scheduled basis, and was arranged with an all-business-class (2-2 seating) layout. It was a very comfortable aircraft, smooth, and seemed well-built.
Alliance Airlines purchased the two owned by Ford Motor Company, now registered VH-JFE and VH-JFB they are configured at this stage as 2-3 layout but they still have the 2-2 business class seats for special tours etc.
These Fokkers always rolled smoothly over the runways.
Flew captain on these for a couple of years for AA. In Texas we called it the Dutch Oven due to the weak air conditioning system. It was also so slow that controllers had to vector you all over the place to keep you from being run over by just about every other jet type out there.
We used to joke that Fokker had to install protective screening at the back of the engines to protect them from fast flying geese. Just a few of my memories.
I refueled many AA Fokkers at RDU in the early 90s, before they closed that hub. If you made it through there, maybe I did yours.
@@bastarddoggy I was on the 727's in those days. I went on the Fokker after they parked the mighty 727.... anything to avoid the MD-80. You probably did pump me some go juice in there somewhere though. Thanks !
Used to fly regularly on a F28 on Air Burkina in the mid-80s having first flown on Somali Airlines Fokker Friendship several years earlier!
I don't remember flying on an F100, but I did fly on a KLM F70 a couple of times. Great regional jet, was sad to see them retired.
I'm currently an Australian flight attendant on the Fokker 100, and the 70! She's a bloody good aircraft- will be sad to see them phased out in the coming 5-10 years.
Those rear-engined jets are some of the nicest looking airplanes ever made. Sometimes can't be unstalled, but hey, you're not supposed to stall an airliner anyway, right?
Stalling your airliner, eh, pilot? Don't try that again.
I always enjoyed practicing unstalls.
Flew Fokker 70/100 for 14 years. Love and miss it! Very pilot friendly aircraft.
I have been a pilot of Fokker 100 in Carpatair and in KLM for a few years. Many good memories with that aircraft!
I've flown on the Fokker 100 in Australia and Papua New Guinea, Alliance air and Air Niugini respectively. An awesome little aircraft.
I have flown many times on F100s mostly beetween 1998 and 2003 on TAM airlines in Brazil. Also, being a pilot in pre-2001 era allowed me to jump seat riding on several occasions. Great regional jet, very cockpit for its time. Also flown in AA F100 from DFW to Monterrey MX in 2003. Last time was in Avianca, CNF-CGH, c.2010.
Lot's of good memories aboard F100s.
Thanks for posting another great video! Cheers from Brazil.
I have thousands of hours as an F-100 Captain. It was a nice flying aircraft. The Speed brake in the tail was very effective for getting down and slowing down. The avionic where good. Love the tape engines gauges. Never understood why more aircraft don't use them. Very easy to read.
The air conditioning was horrible! The air source was in the engines in the tail of the aircraft. The air conditioning packs were under the cockpit in the nose of the aircraft ( Which made the cockpit extremely noisy! ) The outflow valve was in the wheel well which resulted in almost zero air flow in the back half of the aircraft. On short duration flights on hot days it was impossible to cool the cabin down to a comfortable level. I picked up an aircraft one hot summer day. One of the inbound flight attendants was being carried off suffering from heat stroke.
The aircraft could be down right dangerous in winter conditions. With no leading edge devices the wing was very vulnerable to loss of lift with even the tiniest amount of contamination.
The radar also left a lot to be desired. If you get in very light precipitation it would attenuate badly and not show returns more than about 15 miles ahead of you. All in all, I was very happy when I was able to bid off the F-100.
Yeah the AC was definitely a flaw. They were always hot on boarding at DFW. I avoided them would i could.
i work on them at school, but didn't you mean th whole elctrical system? That's a lot of noise. But the plane has those wings for it's performance at gravel and other unpaved runways. Slats could be used at the F100 because some f28 had them to. Those airconditioning could be damaged because alliance airlines have a lot of them and never heard something like that. even from my own teachers. So that looks not right to me. But I am glad you were a Captain on it. Someone who choose the good ones
@@jouniairplanevideos I was told that the landing gears were problematic on the early F-100's. Fokker had neglected to modify the landing gears used on the early F-28's and the increased weight of the F-100 caused early failures of the landing gear.
Enjoyed flying on them. Had the softest landing I've experienced on a jet, it kissed the runway.
I had a few flights on the F28 when it was operated by Canadian Regional. Great little plane and relatively quiet thanks to the rear mounted engines. I would purposely walk to the galley at the rear just to listen to those turbojets.
The fleet of F28s sat abandoned at the Saskatoon airport up until recently. The engines had been removed. Air Canada abandoned those planes when the Canadien and Air Canada merged.
So sad, those were good little planes that served the regional role well and still had lots of life left in them.
Had a few trips on these back in the 90's. Operated by Midway Airlines in the U.S. Loved the circular windows.
One of my best friends is an airline pilot (Captain) and started by flying the Fokker 100. I never managed to fly with him, but later (after he switched to Embraers) I got lucky and got to fly on a Fokker with Helvetica. I'm happy I managed to experience it.
Proud to be Dutch I made my first flight in the F-27 Friendship. Together with another friend I made a return trip Amsterdam - Paris; my friends' first flight in the F-100. Several flights with KLM Cityhopper's F70 and 100 gives me a nice rememberance of our Dutch craftmanschip. It is sad that it was not possible to safe this industry from bankrupcy....
It was possible, but our government was really into the neoliberal thinking at the time, while other countries invested huge sums of money in for example Airbus.
@@van0tot100 You are right! Also the deal with the German DASA wasn't the most delight moment in the Dutch industral histories with political intervention
Still love being a passenger in the Fokker 100 that is being used in regional Australia today. Great video.
One of the best aircraft ever built
I like how you tried to include some Fokker inuendo lol ie: "However the Fokker 100, and The Little Fokker 70..."
They were quite often scheduled on my return flight from Zurich to Manchester (but strangely never on the outbound which was either an A319/320 or an Avro).
I really liked them, very much more than the Embraer which replaced them, and with the notable exception (not in a good way - forward loo taken out of service, fittings removed and being used for storage, along with copious use of silicone sealant elsewhere to keep broken items in place) of one which was retired the following week, always immaculately turned out by Helvetic.
I rode the Fokker 70 twice when I was a child. Last of these was a klm cityhopper flight from Amsterdam to Bergen. Since that flight the Fokker Jets have kept a special place in my heart and if things go as planned, I get to learn aircraft maintenance skills on a Fokker 100 and an F28 Fellowship somewhere next year at a local airbase.
Those Little Fokkers were great planes.. Just saying. I loved flying on those Little Fokkers ;)
That absolutely cracked me up! 🤣👊🏼🎯👋
Sounds like these amazing aircraft were years ahead of there time.
Just like the Bombardier C series’s jet both companies couldn’t take the aircraft to the end and make them the true engineering marvel that they are.
Cheers 🇨🇦
I took one of the last KLM Fokker70s to Norwich in England and back to Amsterdam in October 2017. Besides it being a fun filled weekend, the Fokker surprised me, when compared to the Embraers and CRJs I had flown on before. It really was a comfortable little racer and I truly enjoyed those flights.
I got to see my first Fokker 100 today at Cagliari - Elmas Airport. Beautiful aircraft.
I really liked the F70 an d F100. My former employer used the for al very long time. I especially remember the no-flaps take-off which at first seemed rather weird, but it worked well The pilots loved it. Also cool was the aerodynamic brake at the rear.
Fantastic quiet jet together with the Fokker 70.
I flew on this plane in 2011 from Vienna to St Petersburg, one of my most memorable flights, this cute little Fokker will always have a special place in my heart
In early 1989 I flew in one of Swissair’s new F100s from Rome to Zürich. I’d assumed it was a Mad Dog till I read the safety card. Complicated journey from Trivandrum to London…. Later that year I flew Edinburgh-Stavanger in an F27 - lovely big windows! The F50 was no doubt more efficient, but I preferred the big windows and whistling Darts of the original. I once flew from London to Lyon via Marseille in an F28: the direct Lyon flight had been cancelled because of a a cracked window on the other F28. So I’ve flown all the Fokker jets and turboprops except the F70.
The F100 was the first aircraft I was checked out on as cabin crew with AirUK. It was a lovely machine to fly on. It had a very light and airy cabin in comparison to our 146s.
They climbed like homesick angels, and unusually, the take-offs were flapless (except Aberdeen). Certainly very quiet if you were working the front half of the cabin too.
The machine above Amsterdam Schiphol is an ex AirUK one that was absorbed by KLM Cityhopper (G-UKFE as was)
I kept laughing every time you said Fokker...you know what it sounds like he is saying. That must be something flying on the Aseman Fokker... 🤣🤣
Now look what you made me do..🤣🤣🤣🤣
Me too.
:))) They probably made a model called "the beach fokker". Made for... The more exotic regions
I flew they 100 as a fligth attendant in Mexicana for many years and I love it.
We flew almost exclusively on KLM back in the 80s and through the 90s. I’d always notice the NLM fleet of Fokker planes and wish we had opportunities to fly on them.
I flew with Asseman from Dubai to Bushehr, it had something nice flying as Dutchman in a dutch plane to Iran.
On one occasion there was a sandstorm after some delay the flight took of from Dubai and during the whole flight the only thing visible out of the windows was the color of sand.
Shortly before landing the captain made an announcement in farsi, no idea what he said but the people started praying. The next you could feel was that the plane landed, the view from the window wasn't changed.
Only when arriving at the terminal we could see the groundcrew applauding with their hands in the air.
Till this day I rather fly in an old F100 than an 737max
About 10 years ago I worked on a project in the UK. Being from The Netherlands, I flew back and forth a lot. At least one time that was with one of these aircraft, either a Fokker 70 or 100, operated by KLM Cityhopper. However, they were replaced by Embraers, which I flew on on subsequent flights. I think flight attendants preferred the Embraer, and it was more spacious. Still, being a Dutch guy, there was a sense of pride about these Fokkers.
I have flown many a F-28 and F-100 with US Airways both great aircraft. Here is a little interesting side note only 2 F-70 were ever operated in the US flying with DesertSun /Mesa Air Group operating as America West Express based in PHX.
What a very interesting story about the Fokker 100
I flew many times in this beautiful aircraft from Amsterdam to Warschau and back. Loved it.. as i love the new embraer 75 now
Flew from Warsaw to Amsterdam in one of these. Summer 2009. What a pleasant plane it was. Smooth and quiet
Well, I for one am happy I got to fly in the 28 and the 100. It blew my mind how quiet those planes are, that is until you hear the air brake deploying on the 28.
Great plane indeed. I love it when all flaps and slats move out at landing.
Love the Fokker 50 and 100. Very comfortable planes.
I flew in one of these from Dallas, TX to Leon, Mexico on American Airlines back in the late 90s. It was my first international flight segment, now that I think about it.
I flew on both the 100 and the 70 multiple times. They were lovely aircraft and very comfortable to fly on.
I flew KLM Cityhopper F100/F70 Amsterdam Stavanger / Bergen many times in the 90’s, quite nice planes! I have good memories of both of them!
Used to travel on these from Miami to Tallahassee. A perfect route for it!
Great user name 😉. Flew these for 21 years! They always looked after me.
I flew more than twice on this plane, it’s one of my favourites, here in Mexico, Mexicana de Aviación owned a large number of them, they were gorgeous with Mexicana 90s livery, I was amazed how loud its Rolls Royce were and the fact that they didn’t have slats and could perform take offs without flaps extended. Such a beautiful airplane, maybe only behind the Boeing 727
Never flew on a Fokker 100 but did work there while the first prototype was being built. We used to walk through the factory at lunchtime and have a good look around. This was at the time when the Fokker 50 was also undergoing flight trials. Good times.
Swissair had a small fleet of them, used to fly it regularly on the Zurich-Berlin trip.
I think it was le last short range jets with real business seating before the business seats as considered today.
I flew on KLM‘s Fokker 100‘s and Fokker 50‘s (an development of the F 27 turboprop). The former on route Amsterdam Cardiff and back, the latter on Cologne - Amsterdam route (and back). Both very nice and great aircraft, miss them.
Was a regular flying on the KLM F70 between HUY and AMS. Hot little performer!
When returning home from active duty I caught a connecting flight from Washington National to Lynchburg on a Piedmont F28. My first thought was, when did Piedmont get DC9s before realizing it was smaller. I recall it was a comfortable smooth flight.
I flew in a Fokker 100 from Mexico City to Tuxtla and then from there to Cancún with two stops at Villahermosa and Mérida, a rather long and tortuous route, but I guess it made commercial sense to regional airline Aviacsa back in 1992. It had fantastic acceleration at takeoff!
YES, I flew on TAM regional airlines in Brazil. They had the largest fleet in S.A. until they switched to A.B. & Boeing!
My first flight was in a Fokker 70. Smooth ride over the alps. I have been working on and around Amsterdam Schiphol Airport for a long time, and you could hear when a Fokker 70/100 departed or arrived, they made a significant sound. It's a pity Fokker as gone bankrupt.
One of my favorites. American Airlines, Dallas to Richmond, VA for years. Looked forward to it. Seat 10 A.
In West Australian skies every day. A loved part of the state and its incredible story.
Have checked my passenger flight log, and I have recorded 80 flights in the Fokker 100, first one of which was on board Swissair Fokker 100 HB-IVH from BSL to LHR on 4th April, 1989. Then there have also been 10 flights in Fokker 70s (KLM and Austrian). My last recorded flight was on board KLM Fokker 70 from AMS to FRA on 13 June, 2013.
In between I did a lot of commuting between TXL and FKB on Air Berlin.
From earlier years I have also logged 10 flights in Fokker F28s.
I flew many many flights within Europe on both NLM and KLM 4 flights each on Air France and Swissair and a single flight each on Austrian Airlines and PGA Portugalia Airlines. In North America, I flew many flights on both American and Canadian Airlines, plus at least half a dozen or so round trip flights with Intair, from Montreal's third airport, YHU-Saint Hubert down to Toronto's premier airport YYZ-Lester B. Pearson International, and last but by no means least a couple of round trips with Canadian North. Back then I would have to say for a regional short hall, the Fokker 70's and 100's in Europe and the Fokker 100's in North America, were my favourite airline to fly on. I found them to be less noisy, providing for a much quieter journey and more spacious and airy inside, I never felt cramped or boxed in, regardless to whether I was flying business-first or economy, compared the competition aircraft = BAC One-Eleven, DC9, and the Boeing 737-200. The only thing that surprises me, and still does to this day, is the relatively low number of aircraft ordered and built, for an airline type, that was arguably in some instances as much as 30% more fuel-efficient than its rivals, not to mention more reliable and easier to service, resulting in less downtime, that went into service with so many airlines, big and small, to entire scheduled between the carriers prime hubs and prestigious city pairs as well as the milk runs. This was also a popular aircraft with the flying public, whether for business or pleasure. There is nothing to indicate this was a bad aircraft in a shape or form. I believe the problem was that as good as the Fokker 70 and 100 were, they should have quickly established an additional 2 or 3 stretches, taking them up to the 180 seat class at least. I know that is easier said than done as you would need to design a larger wing and new landing gear capable of lifting handling the heavier payloads, then there is the question of finding the right engine, with better economics than existing models, to offer a greater range with economical savings up 30% compare to the competition and in order to be on par with that given on the Fokker 70 and 100, thus commonality across the fleet. Sadly there never in a financial situation to this. Had sales boomed for 70's and 100's maybe they would have considered an additional stretch, but with nothing planned or even on the drawing board a potential customer would be waiting 5 to 10 years prior to entry into service, whereas BAC, Boeing and now McDonald Douglas were offering customers stretch versions
That plane was so smooth
I loved flying aboard the F28 as a kid on short routes in West Africa!
an absolute joy of aircraft, flew on them multiple times on Portugalia Airlines over 10 years ago
In the late 1990s the Austrian carrier Tyrolean (later merged with Austrian Airlines) operated the F 100 on flights between VIE and HEL (I worked in Finland at the time, but visited my home country often for holidays or also work). I really enjoyed being a passenger on that route (this was a time, when airlines had not yet all degraded to the ultra low-cost business model). Later, when working in the Netherlands I got to fly on F 100s again a few times on AMS-VIE with KLM, before eventually all these services were operated by Airbus 320-series... I always preferred the AC EFG configuration over ABC EFG, as as a single traveller one had more chance of getting AB all to oneself....
I just stumbled on your story, I was of interest to me as we fly to and from our regional work aka FIFO Fly In Fly Out every Friday for me. Yes you mentioned Alliance air, but we fly on Virgin Charter,
I live in Iran and I have been a passenger of the Fokkers many times. Something that was forgotten to mention in this video was the large number of air accidents and crashes these planes had and the deaths and casualties caused by them.
Flew on a Fokker 100 today with Alliance air in Australia, was a really comfortable flight, seats were a lot softer and had more recline than the modern Jetstar Airbus A320 I took days earlier.
I've flown several times on the Fokkers - KLM, Malev, Air France, and they were all really nice to fly on. Really cute. If you were lucky to fly upfront, generally there was a 2 + 2 layout which was pretty comfortable compared to larger aircraft like the A320. Shame they are being retired now.
I loved flying in this airplane and really miss seeing them in the US.
My favorite Regional Jet, followed by the ERJ 145 and Dornier Do 328.
I was flying with Fokker 100 in 2010 from Vienna to Varna and back. Quite a good aircraft. Austrian Airlines had 31 of such jets in total.
Solid strong aircraft. If there is one thing that needs to be highlighted, it is the wonderful Tay engines. Until then, Swissair had never operated aircraft with RR engines. When you saw the shining eyes of the engine mechanics, it was clear that no engine of the same class could even come close to holding a candle to the RR Tay.
"Little Fokker 70" had me in stitches 🤪🤪🤪
Lovely aircraft, still see them every time I fly from my local airport; Podgorica😌
I flew so many Fokkers on AA out of Chicago, to Atlanta, San Antonio, and Minneapolis among other places.
Once, flying Atlanta to O'Hare, we did a no-flap take-off. I think we still used less runway than a Delta L-1011 flying ATL-ORD.
I got on a US Air flight in Pittsburgh, thinking I was boarding a DC-9 series jet. It was only after I was in my seat and reaching for the safety instructions card on the seat back that I realized it was actually an F-100. It got me to my destination safely though, so I guess I have no complaints.
Thanks for showing me how they got that Fokker on the roof at the Amsterdam Schipol viewing area I was on that Fokker in 2023
I have been on one, but never flew on one, nor have I ever been in one. In secondary school, I spent some weeks during my holidays working at the Fokker plant near Schiphol airport. I did cleaning work, mostly offices and other work spaces. One day, I was asked to clean the top of the wings of one of the new aircraft. So that's how I spent some time on (top of the) aircraft.
Flew on a QantasLink Fokker 100 from Perth (YPPH) to Darwin (YPDN) via Alice Springs (YBAS). Loved every minute.
I really like how fast they accelerate on the runway and how fast they climb.
On one flight I took my GPS and pressed the go home button and found out the plane was travelling at over 800km/h. Best seats to fly in are over the emergency escape exits over the wings because you have more leg room. That's 2 rows with 10 seats.
In the early 70's I flew a number of times in the predecessor - the F-28 with Piedmont Airlines. That little airplane was a regional workhorse and very pleasant as a passenger. Also had many flights in Honduras on the F-27 turboprop, a bulletproof workhorse. 👍
Flew on the F-100 with AA several times and found it to be comfortable for the market it was designed for.
Both types (F70/100) were used by Austrian Airlines up until a few years ago. I absolutely loved to fly on the Fokkers, for their quirkiness and also the fact that they had 3-2 seating, so no middle seat if you picked the "right" side i. e. the left side to be precise IIRC ;-).