Man, I really like the black with this particular car. Saw this color in person the other day, it has a stealthy vibe to it that others don't have with this body style.
I love the way it looks when its lowered, but man, I hate working with suspension, but this does not look too bad. But I think I will still get someone else to do it when it comes time.
Very good video my friend 👍🏼 I just ordered the spring compressor. now tomorrow I will install them at my Garage bz already have the H&R Springs.Thanx God Bless
When F.A.R. Performance changed the strut-cartridges in my 240Z back in the 70's, they angled out the struts the same way that you did on the front end of your Supra! Their M.O. was way more sketchy though! Remove the wheels and tires from the car. Lower the suspension on blocks of wood. Have someone push down on the strut tower while another person wound 3-4 lengths of house wiring around the coils to keep them compressed! No fancy spring compressors were around in the 70's!
Lowering springs are extremely an underrated mod because people rather have cheap untuned coilovers that ride and drive like shit. I can’t tell you how often I see people show up at the track or autocross with poorly tuned suspensions just to get smoked by people running OEM suspension. Lowering spring manufactures already did the R&D so you don’t completely ruin the suspension geometry and can have a streetable performance with little compromise. This is the best choice for most builds. This is one of the few times where less is more. Anything more than an inch is just asking for trouble.
Very true! Especially on a car like this. Stock dampers are so good and have two modes. Springs just make it better with no hassle. Unless you’re a hard car track driving and you actually know how to adjust suspension for each different track you’re on and different conditions. Coils on a car like this aren’t really worth it
Does the kit come with bushings? I have Eibach lowering springs on it but I bought the car with them. So I don’t have stock bushings. Would I have a problem getting H&R springs installed?
There is one demerit for installing coilovers: you can scrape and damage your car to the ground while going on bad roads. My family has a 2012 Kia Rio Hatchback with coilovers installed by the previous owner, so I can torture the car on damaged roads with my fat body!
I'm installing mine H&R springs and for some reason when i put the spring back the lettering has to be upside otherwise it doesn't aling with the rubber top cover, if i put them like you installing them the lettering normal it doesnt fit the rubber cover. Any suggestions? Thanks
@@APTunning there’s gotta be something you can do tho. Not sure if you could run them upside down. Maybe. I’ve installed these twice tho and they worked the same. The top hat you can twist to line up the end of the spring with the rubber spot. Then once assembled you can twist it
In the first week or so I'd hear a click on big bumps. But that went away. Make sure everything was installed exactly like stock. Need to have the rubber things the springs sit on aligned correctly. Also will want an alignment.
@@BrosFOURRSpeed Gotcha, I also installed H&R Spacers & it sounds like it may be coming from that.. Getting an alignment today so fingers crossed it gets fixed
a car im currently looking at has these installed; the dealer did not know that the H&R springs were aftermarket, but I knew from watching this video... I'm not sure if the install was a good one though or where they went to get it installed; is there anything that would alarm you in terms of that or would you move onto a different car that wasn't modified.
As long as the alignment is in check they were most likely installed well. Maybe just have the dealer or a shop double check some bolts in the control arms. But nothing alarming about buying a car with springs
@@BrosFOURRSpeed thank you for this... I drove 3+ hours away to this dealership and the salesman made it the worst experience ever..... The car would be my perfect spec but I don't want to waste my time again for that drive and not walk away with it... Those tips will definitely help. thank you! Hope your new type r has been well man, followed you on your multiple supra journey for a while.
I’d say 1/4in. After about 2 hours it should settle nicely. Right when you put the car on the ground it’ll only lower about half what it should. Give it an house or two and it should be there
I just had a normal alignment after this. These don't lower it enough to really make you need the camber kits. It was close to stock after the alignment
sorry for the noob question, is there any spring setup that's height adjustable without requiring the car to be lifted? Not asking for air suspension, something with a knob to turn manually and change the height. I'm not a fan of permanently lowering the Supra as it's pretty low as is.
Technically yes. You can buy coilovers or adjustable lowering springs. You’ll have to take the wheel off, but you can adjust the right height manually for your desired height. Most cool over have a knob you can easily turn that will adjust the damping. But height takes a little more effort to adjust on coilovers
@@Danbae69 Keep in mind springs aren't cheating out. It depends on what you want your car to do. If you're not tracking a Supra, coilovers are a waste of money. The stock dampers are so good, better springs are all they need. Spending more money doesnt always mean better. That's just called wasting money
Hey bro, how long should the springs need to be settled to be dropped where they should be? because i got my H&R springs installed and the fronts dropped 1in like i should be but the rears 1 side droped 1quarter of an inch and the other side dropped 2 quarter inch, will the alignment fix it or should i check the installation on rears?
Were all the rubber ends of the springs installed all the way? They should drop everything even. Alignment will help a tad too. But if the rubber ends aren't twisted all the way, that could affect how tall the spring is. Within a few days everything was even on my car
Correct me if I’m wrong but the Supra doesnt have a magnetic suspension. BMW as a company uses adaptive suspensions but nothing like Ford, Chevy or Ferrari’s magneride
Not really too sure if it's technically magnetic or not. But the two setting remain usable with the new springs. It's an adaptive suspension with two modes for the damping
Help please. I now have H&R installed and TE37 wheels. And had my car aligned twice already. Cause my car seems to pull to the right. Now on my 3rd alignment…the shop told me drive it again and see if it’s still pulling to the right. If it does we’re gonna have to take suspension out. What is goin on. Help please
Put your stock wheels back on and test the car with a proper alignment. Then see if your wheels are the issue. But I've had these on both my Supras and they ride like stock. Has to be a wheel/tire or alignment issue. Are all the shocks back in the right place?
@@channelgreen5949 Then something isn’t installed correctly. Are all the springs completely seated in their spots evenly? Are the front struts completely back in the knuckle?
Just tight. I've done springs on a ton of cars. Nice and tight is about all you need. I'd assume anything over 50 pounds is good. But you can look up torque specs to make sure. But it's not hard to do even 70 pounds by hand
Man, I really like the black with this particular car. Saw this color in person the other day, it has a stealthy vibe to it that others don't have with this body style.
For sure! It’s growing on me a lot! It’s got a grey undertone and some good metallic flake.
Best color option for the Supra, the black looks so mean
@@anthonycurtiskeller it’s definitely a nice option!
I love the way it looks when its lowered, but man, I hate working with suspension, but this does not look too bad. But I think I will still get someone else to do it when it comes time.
Yeah suspension isn’t my favorite either. More you do it tho, it gets better. But definitely a lot of work!
Love the result for sure!
Thanks for the referral to Fitment. Looks awesome! Personally I like brake kit upgrades to go with everything else, but that's me.
Yeah Fitment Industries is awesome! Don’t know if I’ll upgrade the brakes on this car tho
Very good video my friend 👍🏼 I just ordered the spring compressor. now tomorrow I will install them at my Garage bz already have the H&R Springs.Thanx God Bless
Sweet! Very doable project for sure! You’ll love it!
On march 3 I saw 5 supra that day I saw 2023 version 2021 version and also 2020: it was so cool ❤ and I love your car to ❤❤
Very nice! I always get excited when I see one!
@@BrosFOURRSpeed same
Damn between the wheel spacers & this drop it’s lookin 🔥🔥🔥
Thanks! Yeah it’s looking so clean!
I’m running these on my e92 with Koni shocks. Perfect for daily use 💪
Good choice!
Did H&R on mine as well and cad looks 🔥!!! There’s a few bolts you didn’t need to do but still yields the same results.
Yeah not too bad of an install. Rides great!
When F.A.R. Performance changed the strut-cartridges in my 240Z back in the 70's, they angled out the struts the same way that you did on the front end of your Supra! Their M.O. was way more sketchy though! Remove the wheels and tires from the car. Lower the suspension on blocks of wood. Have someone push down on the strut tower while another person wound 3-4 lengths of house wiring around the coils to keep them compressed! No fancy spring compressors were around in the 70's!
Oh wow!
Lowering springs are extremely an underrated mod because people rather have cheap untuned coilovers that ride and drive like shit. I can’t tell you how often I see people show up at the track or autocross with poorly tuned suspensions just to get smoked by people running OEM suspension. Lowering spring manufactures already did the R&D so you don’t completely ruin the suspension geometry and can have a streetable performance with little compromise. This is the best choice for most builds. This is one of the few times where less is more. Anything more than an inch is just asking for trouble.
Very true! Especially on a car like this. Stock dampers are so good and have two modes. Springs just make it better with no hassle. Unless you’re a hard car track driving and you actually know how to adjust suspension for each different track you’re on and different conditions. Coils on a car like this aren’t really worth it
Very helpful. Thanks.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Looking good!
Thanks!
This content is helpful to me again friend!
Glad to hear it!
Does the kit come with bushings? I have Eibach lowering springs on it but I bought the car with them. So I don’t have stock bushings. Would I have a problem getting H&R springs installed?
There are no bushings that need replacing with this kit. Just swap the stock springs and your good!
Looking good. Wheels are gonna set it off
Thanks! Yeah that will be a cool next upgrade! They are being made right now ;)
@@BrosFOURRSpeed i knew it wouldn't be long. Looking forward to it
@@paperboychris5390haha yeah! Love the 2023 wheels tho. So figured spacers would be good for now as I wait
There is one demerit for installing coilovers: you can scrape and damage your car to the ground while going on bad roads. My family has a 2012 Kia Rio Hatchback with coilovers installed by the previous owner, so I can torture the car on damaged roads with my fat body!
Yeah for this car springs are good since you retain factory settings and it’s not too low
@@BrosFOURRSpeed What if it's too low? You can scrape it on bad roads!
@@BrokenAdam770 Just gotta be careful!
Why haven't you invested in a quick-jack? Seems like it'd make a great video and make your life so much easier.
Yeah at some point I’d like one of those!
I'm installing mine H&R springs and for some reason when i put the spring back the lettering has to be upside otherwise it doesn't aling with the rubber top cover, if i put them like you installing them the lettering normal it doesnt fit the rubber cover. Any suggestions? Thanks
You should be able to twist the rubber on the top to line up
I tried it don't fit it only fits perfectly when the lettering is upside down
@@BrosFOURRSpeed
@@APTunning there’s gotta be something you can do tho. Not sure if you could run them upside down. Maybe. I’ve installed these twice tho and they worked the same. The top hat you can twist to line up the end of the spring with the rubber spot. Then once assembled you can twist it
I installed these but i keep getting a bit of vibration/rattling? Did you ever experience anything like that after the install?
In the first week or so I'd hear a click on big bumps. But that went away. Make sure everything was installed exactly like stock. Need to have the rubber things the springs sit on aligned correctly. Also will want an alignment.
@@BrosFOURRSpeed Gotcha, I also installed H&R Spacers & it sounds like it may be coming from that.. Getting an alignment today so fingers crossed it gets fixed
a car im currently looking at has these installed; the dealer did not know that the H&R springs were aftermarket, but I knew from watching this video... I'm not sure if the install was a good one though or where they went to get it installed; is there anything that would alarm you in terms of that or would you move onto a different car that wasn't modified.
As long as the alignment is in check they were most likely installed well. Maybe just have the dealer or a shop double check some bolts in the control arms. But nothing alarming about buying a car with springs
@@BrosFOURRSpeed thank you for this... I drove 3+ hours away to this dealership and the salesman made it the worst experience ever..... The car would be my perfect spec but I don't want to waste my time again for that drive and not walk away with it... Those tips will definitely help. thank you! Hope your new type r has been well man, followed you on your multiple supra journey for a while.
Any plans for camber arms?
Don’t need them for this setup 😎
@@BrosFOURRSpeed That's awesome! How about fender rolling? Are you rubbing now that you're lower and sitting wider?
@@R0cket_Rabbit No need for that either! No rubbing at all and I can run wider tires and still not rub. Great setup for sure!
How much do they usually settle after install? What's the average settling you have seen from your past experience?
I’d say 1/4in. After about 2 hours it should settle nicely. Right when you put the car on the ground it’ll only lower about half what it should. Give it an house or two and it should be there
how was the camber? did you have to get a camber kit along with it?
I just had a normal alignment after this. These don't lower it enough to really make you need the camber kits. It was close to stock after the alignment
@@BrosFOURRSpeed appreciate the reply back will def get to the install rather than having to buy and wait for the kit
Hi! What is the dewalt tool that you are using called?
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Here yah go!
sorry for the noob question, is there any spring setup that's height adjustable without requiring the car to be lifted? Not asking for air suspension, something with a knob to turn manually and change the height. I'm not a fan of permanently lowering the Supra as it's pretty low as is.
Technically yes. You can buy coilovers or adjustable lowering springs. You’ll have to take the wheel off, but you can adjust the right height manually for your desired height. Most cool over have a knob you can easily turn that will adjust the damping. But height takes a little more effort to adjust on coilovers
no go big or go home. dont ever cheap out on suspensions dude thats literally the part that keeps that hunk of metal afloat. hks or kw coilovers
@@Danbae69 Keep in mind springs aren't cheating out. It depends on what you want your car to do. If you're not tracking a Supra, coilovers are a waste of money. The stock dampers are so good, better springs are all they need. Spending more money doesnt always mean better. That's just called wasting money
Looks great 👍 Have to ask but is there any bouncing vs stock?
Do you plan on getting the car tuned? If so are the 2023 even tunable yet?
They are tunable! Not sure when I’ll do that, but I’m planning too.
Did it need an alignment after?
Yeah always do an alignment after suspension work
I want to get some springs... the install i feel would be awful😂 and im hesitant with garahes around here
It's actually not that bad! Following the steps we did, knock it out in a few hours!
Hey bro, how long should the springs need to be settled to be dropped where they should be? because i got my H&R springs installed and the fronts dropped 1in like i should be but the rears 1 side droped 1quarter of an inch and the other side dropped 2 quarter inch, will the alignment fix it or should i check the installation on rears?
Were all the rubber ends of the springs installed all the way? They should drop everything even. Alignment will help a tad too. But if the rubber ends aren't twisted all the way, that could affect how tall the spring is. Within a few days everything was even on my car
@ i will check again thank you
Does lowering the car affect the tss system ?
Nope. Everything rides fine and has no issues. The suspension adapts to the lower height fine. That’s why springs are ideal for a Supra in my opinion
Correct me if I’m wrong but the Supra doesnt have a magnetic suspension. BMW as a company uses adaptive suspensions but nothing like Ford, Chevy or Ferrari’s magneride
Not really too sure if it's technically magnetic or not. But the two setting remain usable with the new springs. It's an adaptive suspension with two modes for the damping
May i ask why you didn’t go with swift springs or rsr? Thanks
I've had H&R on all my cars. Good product and price
Help please. I now have H&R installed and TE37 wheels. And had my car aligned twice already. Cause my car seems to pull to the right. Now on my 3rd alignment…the shop told me drive it again and see if it’s still pulling to the right. If it does we’re gonna have to take suspension out. What is goin on. Help please
Put your stock wheels back on and test the car with a proper alignment. Then see if your wheels are the issue. But I've had these on both my Supras and they ride like stock. Has to be a wheel/tire or alignment issue. Are all the shocks back in the right place?
@@BrosFOURRSpeed but before the springs the car was running perfect with the wheels and tires....it started pulling right when springs installed...
@@channelgreen5949 Then something isn’t installed correctly. Are all the springs completely seated in their spots evenly? Are the front struts completely back in the knuckle?
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Could it be this too?
Any trq specs, or just tighten them?
Just tight. I've done springs on a ton of cars. Nice and tight is about all you need. I'd assume anything over 50 pounds is good. But you can look up torque specs to make sure. But it's not hard to do even 70 pounds by hand
Did you get an alignment after?
Yup! Wasnt really all too off tho
It is good for track racing??
Absolutely. This is a nice setup over the stock setup. handles much better
@@BrosFOURRSpeed thank you so much brother 🤝💯
Do these fit the 2.0 supra?
They should. But I'm not 100% sure
@@BrosFOURRSpeed thanks for the reply, just trying to get this figured out🥲🙏🏼
@@OmarHernandez-yv1xe I’d assume they would. But H&R hasn’t confirmed it
it doesnt have magnetic suspension
It sure does! Look it up!