The Mauretania's Design Genius | Grand Plans
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- Опубліковано 28 вер 2024
- The insane talent of designers is on full display today as we examine rare, magnificent full colour plans of the RMS Mauretania from 1907. Mauretania was the vaunted sister ship of Cunard's Lusitania and these plans give us a unique and rare glimpse into the past and some idea of how this amazing piece of technology worked!
Oceanliner Designs explores the design, construction, engineering and operation of history’s greatest vessels- from Titanic to Queen Mary and from the Empress of Ireland to the Lusitania. Join maritime researcher and illustrator Michael Brady as he tells the stories behind some of history's most famous ocean liners and machines!
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Hi Mike! Watching this from Hotel in Philadelphia with a view of the funnels of the SS UNITED STATES!!!!
Miss that ship. Mike did a video on the SS US some months ago
I thought United States had been moved from Philly?
No not yet
Is she still there?
@@phaaschWhat is so sad is that there have been numerous reports etc about refurbing. Rebuilding moving etc, the United States and none of them have ever come to fruition as we watch that beautiful mechanical marvel rot away.
Mike Brady posting some content on other ships and not focussing on the Titanic makes my Sunday. Keep em coming Mike. We love other ships too.
Too much titanic
He did a whole video on Yamato last week. Now I'd like him to do a special on a battleship that's still sitting above the waves. Maybe Massachusetts because the Iowas get love and Texas gets love too because she's the last of her breed, but Big Mamie just sits up there being the last surviving battleship to ever engage another battleship in an artillery duel.
Omg! Its my friend, your friend, OUR friend, Mike Brady!!!
the one and only
Our beloved companion Michael C. Brady from the UA-cam video channel Oceanliner Designs and Illustrations 🥰
From OceanLiner Designs.
OMG ! It's OceanLiner Design's Mike Brady!
I love the way he dresses.
From Kenya
Your videos are soo good it has reached a point where I will watch anything you publish🙂
Btw Couz - watercolor was an essential skill for professionals - historically British Army Engineers were trained to make watercolor maps as well. Thx 🍀🇨🇦⚜️
It is a shame you don't have copies of those for sale :)
Speaking of funnel uptakes, If you have some plans of the Normandie in that style, i would love to see those!
Interesting that Normandie used split uptakes, but not Queen Mary and Queen Elizabeth.
Sacrificing sleep for this
Why sleep when you can watch our friend Mike Brady from Oceanliner Designs!
this man has his priorities straighter than the straightest line ever
watch multi million dollar documentaries from major companies: 🚫
watch a ship nerd yap about a certain subject ✔✔✔✔✔✔✔☑✅☑✅☑✅☑✅☑
Wow. So original.
Hey, you know... it's our friend, Mike Brady. We love listening to our friends be passionate, right?
And you're shitting on people who have this interest... For no reason. Way to go.
Dude! Geeking out over century-plus grand ship plans! No wonder we love your channel. No one else would ever even think of doing anything like this for a 40-minute video post. Absolute class. 👏 👏 👏
Take a bow, sir!
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That's my friend btw
Hear hear! My dear chap is back from… wherever chaps like him go!
From Ocean Liner Designs!
No way! I have a friend named Mike Brady too... From... Ocean Li... IT'S THE SAME GUY, NO WAY!
My friend and yours
Also, the background music is Mozart’s Piano Concerto number 23 (K.488).
This ship brought my father home from war and to his new bride, my mother. He and his battalion boarded Mauritania with orders to invade the Japanese mainland, well understood that they would all die in the attempt. All were ordered to write and submit their last wills and testament's.
Just before casting off, word of the Japanese surrender arrived, and the Captain was ordered to change her destination from ports occupied near Okinawa to New York Harbor instead.
Indeed, apropos class systems: quarters for the journey home were assigned, not just by rank, but also by a class system, one in the US known as Jim Crow. My father, being an army Captain, was assigned duty watching the enlisted men below decks, synchronizing their visits above decks according to this class system.
Days of ship's-routine later, he experienced the most emotional moment in life, even after witnessing combat: seeing the Statue of Liberty rise over the horizon. Only then did he allow himself to believe he had survived the Axis against all odds.
This was one of only two war stories he ever told me .
An excellent story, though I believe your father was talking about the _second Mauretania,_ this ship's successor. The 1907 _Mauretania_ was scrapped before WW2 began. _Mauretania (II),_ however, did serve in WW2 and handled a great deal of troop repatriation.
She carried that storied name into the 1960s, and I'm glad she was able to carry your father home rather than into Olympic/Coronet.
Yooo, here within a minute of upload. This never happens
I took a mechanical drawing (sometimes called drafting) class in high school WAY back in the Jurassic Age (1970) and it was the real old-timey way of doing things. T-squares, French curves, triangles, bow compasses, scale rules and bow-ink pens so I can REALLY appreciate the skill and artistry that went into these plans! We never got to that level, let me tell you! Those plans for Mauretania are really astonishing works of skill, if not art.
A lost art nowadays I'm afraid. Hey, time and progress wait for no one.
Thanks Mike, another great show!
You could absolutely draw that, Mike. When I was a kid in the 1980s I would sit down and draw all sorts of things in pencil and pen. The insides of ships and skyscrapers and trains and houses, etc. Great share as always. I would have watched for another half hour, easily. Have a great day.
Do I understand correctly that you purchased ORIGINAL TECHNICAL DRAWINGS of Mauretania? Or are we talking digital copies? I'm slightly confused.
Edit: for later episodes, can you have something that brings attention to your cursor? I couldn't see it most of the time. 🙁
He bought prints at the Royal Maritime Museum.
Yes these are digital copies from the keeper of the originals.
So if they rebuilt this with modern engines, would it have twice the guest rooms? Or just bigger rooms with modern conveniences like personal bathrooms? 🤔
Probably the second one
I love going through old drawings and draftings. Personally, I could stand to see a handful more videos going into this ship, I'm sure you could spend plenty of time on the deck plans.
The key with historic drawings is often to look at the interesting details and compare/contrast revisions, updates, notes, changes, etc. British plans from 100+ years ago certainly don't follow modern convention to the letter, so it's always fun to see what the different formats and styles were compared to what we use today. I was checking out some drawings for the Spitfire and it was a huge change from what I'm used to.
totally agree with seeing some more plans on this ship plus some other ships. time has whizzed by watching show and how entertaining it is.
Mike you should do a history of the liner RMS Justicia. A forgotten lost liner sunk in WW1.
25:00 You can actually go to the RMS Queen Mary’s auxiliary steering wheel. It’s very close to the propeller exhibit.
Bae, wake up, Mike is back to talking about drawings
Thank you so much for this, Mike . Loved the groundbreaking Mauritania in colour . I saw your legendary father singing his song , up there Cazaly , at football, and it was awesome . Two legendary Mike Bradys in one family .
:)
Would love to see some content of thw great lakes freighters
"...You've come a long way baby..." -incredible to imagine those "Morlocks" shovelling coal into house-sized boilerz - "yikes batman" 🍀🇨🇦⚜️
"British Imperialism in the early 1900s was... incorrigible." That's certainly a word for it Mike Brady lol.
Good afternoon, Mike. Loving this one on architecture plans for the ship. As usual, a sublime speaker! ☮️
Love this, man! As for “other ships,” while I’m not sure you have it available to you, I’d love to see the plans for some of the French liners, particularly SS Normandie. Those deco liners were just so cool.
Mauretania is such a pretty ship. Thanks for making this videe my friend, Mike Brady, from Oceanliner Designs
Man, i'm so jealous. If only i had those plans, when i was making Lusitania model. Had to use public low res plans from various Internet sources.
Beautiful plans. No undo button. How frustrating it must have been to have the plans almost done and make a slip with the watercolors and have to start over. I took a class in High School or earlier doing engineering type drawings. Very difficult work to do. We had a variety of classes back then to help people find things that would interest them for work if they didn't go to college. I'm 54. I didn't have kids, but I hear really bad things about education today in the US. The people who I have met over the past few years who were finishing or just graduated High School seem to be lacking that spark of enthusiasm we had back then.
Most important: I had a small construction company before. We often received plans for houses that didn't even have the correct dimensions of the lumbers' width. So much of a disappointment to get such garbage work from a design firm for a house that would be built thousands of times. Issues like that and delays in getting payments made me switch over to remodeling and repair work. Which was actually much harder but more fulfilling work.
Really quite amazing how you and your team keep finding fascinating things to add. Thank you.
A lovely episode! There is just something fascinating about hand drawn and painted plans
As someone who has the skills to hand draw all of this I assure you that you can too. You would have multiple days or weeks to create (and sometimes revise) these types of drawings, and all the dimensions would have been set by the time the "final" revisions of the large rigging drawings were produced. It's all about scale length, knowing 1 inch on the paper represents e.g. 12 ft constructed. Keep in mind draftsperson was (and to some extent still is) a real profession, and teams of engineers would have teams of draftspeople supporting them. producing detail drawings and overview drawings from concepts and descriptions and calculations.
My question is, Were these plans computer generated or were they drawn by hand?
If only Mike had mentioned this.
Mike Brady has had his own sitcom and now ages backwards.
"It doesnt look any bigger then the Mauritania" - Rose
"You can be blasé about some things Rose, but not about Titanic. It's over 100 feet longer than the Mauretania and far more luxurious." - Cal
Please do HMHS BRITANNIC I would say RMMV OCEANIC but the final result is not around to see
omg you have a lot of details of that ship
I love ships with low looking white superstructure. A lot of ships latter became a little top heavy with the white painted part of the superstructure. UNITED STATES was one of the exceptions. OLYMPIC class EXCELLED in this. LUSITANIA class and IMPERATOR was good also. MAJESTIC latter raised her white paint and arguably looked better.
My shipboard experience lasted from about 1974 to 1990. I'd be very much interested in seeing your take on the Holland America ships of that era.
Great segment, Mike. If there are plans available, I would like to see those of RMS Queen Elizabeth.
Thanks Mike for yet another excellent video! The drawings are beautifully detailed -I love the little trees in the public rooms 🌴🎄
Actually, I read somewhere that she didn't burn 100s of tons of coal a day, she burnt a 1000 tons. What a job stokers had.
Excellent! Looking forward to more great videos! Love your work.
today is a good day, graced by one of our friend's uploads.
At 08:27 you're talking about the ladder to the top deck, however my eye is caught by what appears to be a ramp leading down from the lowermost promenade deck to a point on the hull. I imagine this was not used for boarding passengers, would this have been for the pilot? Or perhaps it was for boarding passengers where tenders were used?
BTW, I first grew to love Mauretania when at architecture school. I was designing a new form of social housing and found many answers not in existing buildings, but by studying the deck plans of the Mauretania.
Somewhat more personally, my late grandmother related to me how she saw the Mauretania on her final journey to the breaking yard, stopping on the Tyne for a civic visit by the Lord Mayor of Newcastle.
Gorgeous drawings! I'm glad that there's somebody to interpret them after all that drafting.
Thoroughly enjoyed the beginning of this new series! The plans are fascinating and your reactions to them delightful. More please!
Really interesting video, would have been good if you had some kind of pointer on screen to show exact area you were describing. Thanks for that little piece of engineering history.
Designed when a calculator was actually a person who you gave the problem to, and they did all the long hand maths to get a result to the specified accuracy. Normally 2, so that a discrepancy would result in them both checking and doing it again.
Also when all the accounting was done in a large room, with lots of desks with scribes, each one using a perfect copperplate script to enter information in ledgers, and where each one was audited either weekly or monthly, to make sure that all the data was correctly entered. Black ink in wells, with the auditor using a separate green ink well to do their additions, or corrections.
Still have some original title deeds from the 1890's, where the original is in copperplate, and later revisions are in different handwriting, with later ones typed.
I just love your accent! 😀
All the universe ❤.
Here in planet Mars too.
I ❤ only God and myself.
Oh hey Mike, great to see you my close personal friend. Always good to see a video on a ship I have never heard of before.
Built near where I live. We used to build ships and build them right 💪
Yes. Grand plans for SS Kronprinzessin Cecilie (Norddeutcher Lloyd, Vulcan AG)!
7:36 I think they’ve used gauche, it’s a more opaque watercolour paint allowing for more gradients, and intensity.
You mean gouache? I thought the same.... The artist wouldn't mix water- based and oil-based paints. ☺️
It would be really cool if you could do the German five, Kaiser Wilhelm der Grosse, Deutschland, Kaiser Wilhelm II, Kronprinz Wilhelm, Kronprinzessin Cecile
Thank you for your amazing videos.
On the Mauretania I notice there is a miniscule boiler shown forward of the line of massive ones.
What's the story here?
Most of the boilers are double ended , that is they had at each end of the boiler fire boxes where the stokers would shovel coal to be burned. The forward most boilers was single ended was only one fire box , so were much shorter.
Interesting fact the Olympics also had their forward boilers single ended.
22:22 ULTERIOR MOTIVES REFERENCE!!!!!!1!!1!!!!1!!!
my god, mike brady's done it again
It just gets better and better with Brady !
Love the Mauretania and Lusitania design 😊
I’d love some more coverage on the Andrea Doria!
Mike Brady is a bread.
Elevator* not lift
Love the specs Mike!
aaaah good man! Just started my Mauretania model, this will be a good source of info and always nice to see a video on my favourite ship. What a beautifully proportioned ship, and happily a wonderful career to go with it. Thanks for covering her Mike, One of Newcastles finest
Beautiful plans of Mauretania! Used to draw my own ocean liner/cruise ship deck plans back in my school days.
Would love to see QE2, SS Rotterdam V, MV Britannic, Aquitania, Olympic (1930s), Empress of Japan in tht future.
ABSOLUTELY FASCINATING, Mike!
Enthralling tour of a ship I could never know…and I loved the soft background music from the ships orchestra…plus the fact that you always dress for your films…a classy move.
Are you a Naval Engineer or a Naval Architect by trade..? You certainly know your way around boats..!
I will suggest a similar tour of the IMPERATOR; only because my entire maternal family emigrated aboard her- to the United States from Switzerland in February, 1921…when she was a new Cunard War Prize, but only weeks before being re-christened as RMS BERENGARIA…
You’re quite a great raconteur- thank you for this video, Mike!
Funny how SS United States's designers took this idea & pushed it pretty much to practical limits, but then the RMS Queen Mary 2 designers kind of combined both camps (size vs speed) with grand size & feel of real luxury, but can still crack 30 kts.
This reminds me of the good old days when our friend, Mike Brady, brought us beautiful drawings in 2D glory! It’s been fun to watch the channel grow and develop, but I miss some things about the old 2D days!
When the “it’s your friend, Mike Brady”, I know I’m in for a good show!
Keep them coming. 😊👍🏻
Over the years I have done a bit of plan research for the Mauretania, asking around which ones are available and where.
It seems the National Maritime Museum in London holds some plans, and some are held in Newcastle by the Science Museum or Tyne & Wear Archives. I did not purchase any plans so I do not know if they are the same plans or different. But I get the feeling that the plans for the Mauretania are not as well organized as those of Lusitania which are held by Glasgow University. And I have not found any Lines plan for Mauretania listed anywhere, which would be useful for model building.
Those plans were a beautiful combination of left and right brained skills. Really enjoyed this video, Mike.
We had hand mechanical drawing mandatory in 1999 , tho , I was at the time just CAD/CAM Technician and it felt sometimes spine crushing , as being bent over drawing is quite tireing even if you're good and your drawings become one of the best during abd after you left highschool. On Uni , we did it all CAD with drawings being printed which was much easier in 2003. But for presentation tasks , like renders and so on , we used artists , as most of us would do tech drawing which are boring to average person as they can't read technical documentation or fully understand it. I still have my drawing tools , like the ones from highschool and uni with added stuff that I'd use at project bureau , where these things , like this ship , start their lives. :)
YES! You should absolutely pick up a pen and start drawing. In fact, do an episode where you narrate what you’re drawing WHILE you’re drawing. Like Bob Ross.
As for ships for review, we here in Carson City, Nevada would like a peek into the S.S. Tahoe, which still rests at the bottom of Lake Tahoe in excellent condition. Her wheel is on display behind the Governor’s desk here at the Capitol, and even the whistle was saved for installation on a small locomotive.
Remember, most of this, they drew TWICE. First in pencil, then in ink before colouring.
She's basically 50% propulsion and fuel. 30% First class, 10% second class, 5% Third class. 5% crew.
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Mauretania could theoretically outrun any full-blow warships she might encounter. The machinery downstairs are surrounded by coal/fuel bunkers that act as a kind of armour and torpedo-bulge.
In practice, these bunkers are what killed the Lusitania. They flooded when the torpedo hit, and tipped the ship over.
Mike, if you ever need anything from the Royal Maritime Museum, please let me know. I live close-by.
Disclaimer: I will NOT steal any model ships.😅
Mike - HOW LONG are these long-form hand-inked plans you got from Greenwich?? - Apologies if you said so, and I missed it. Tell us the physical dimensions of the wonderful maps and plans that you show us!
Many thanks for your work! Much appreciated.
Now I forgot what I came to UA-cam for. Damn you again, Mike Brady !
Think this was more like an architect drawing of an building. Showing the layout and floor plan. Its not an real engineering plan with frames and dimensions.
However you had to have quite some knowledge of ship construction as you had to factor inn engines, funnels and support equipment like anchors.
As for cabins I guess they was pretty repetitive and not structural.
I absolutely love this style of documentary! Please do more, especially with focus on how interior designs changed over naval history and technological advancement.
21:34 - Is that design stamped and signed May 11th, 1908??? 😳
You can see where the moisture got to the plan, but very well preserved. Mike, make sure you've scanned enough 1:1 copies of that 🤦🏻♂️ because once it goes brittle, it's going to be impossible to salvage 😅
Pick up that pen and do some drawing! I'm sure you would be excellent at it as you've shown off some things that you have drawn in the past.
It is a talent to draw with pen and ink with the precision required of drawing plans or doing scientific illustrations, designing equipment of all kinds, or doing geologic drafting (that's what I'm most familiar with). I have my father's and grandfather's drafting equipment and back in the day, I wielded a pretty mean Rapiograph (a technical drawing pen brand). A good draftsman or draftswoman were worth their weight in gold, but of course, they weren't paid all that well.
Those plans are lovely. I can see why you really enjoyed describing them. More, please.
Very well done. AGAIN :) Where can I buy such plans? I guess they are digital files.
These are really beautiful plans. But where is her POTATO ROOM?? 😂
Mike, a question: When the Mauritania was converted to oil did they keep all of the boilers? I ask because when many battleships were converted from coal to oil they usually needed fewer boilers because of the greater efficiency of oil firing over coal firing.
As an ex technical illustrator, I am very familiar with this style of work. For some time in the 1980’s my main role was creating teaching media artworks onto linen using ink pens and color dyes (some being many metres wide. These were then mounted onto wooden battens to be hung in lecture rooms where offices and or crew could be educated. Very fine detailed work, but that was what we were trained in. The funnels may well have used paynes grey to define the shading and then been coloured over using the red. Paynes gray was excellent for providing base shading which you could then overlay with other colours. It was very much a fine art of its time but something many technical artists/illustrators were familiar with. It’s now long since lost to digital colour systems. These types of plans are indeed works of art.
It's hilarious how impressed you are with the handiwork of manually drawing. This is what we used to do until about 35 years ago...LOL
Thanks for sharing! I'd love to see a plan for the Big Four (Celtic or Baltic, specifically) and can you do an in depth video on Republic/sinking?
Double windsor please! Anything less is uncivilized. And triggers my OCD. So you should totally change how you tie it because of my OCD. And because it looks better. :)
A vid idea i have.
Every ship with gantry davits, what are gantry davits, how they work, what drove them to be invented etc. The ships i know of so far that have gantry davits are:
RMS Britannic(obviously)
RMS Arundel Castle
RMS Windsor Castle
SS Westernland
_Mauretania_ was Franklin D. Roosevelt's favorite ocean liner, having traveled on several as a boy and a young man and being enchanted by the sea for his entire life. It's easy to see why. A masterful balance of engineering brilliance and handcrafted luxury, with a career that few ships could match.
Mike, remember that part of the agreement between Cunard and the Admiralty, who helped finance the Lusitania and Mauritania, was that provisions had to be included to allow the two ships to be converted to armed merchant cruisers if war broke out. What the Admiralty discovered was that ships like these burned so much coal as to make them impractical as warships.
I will note again it was reading ocean liner books (based on magazines when the ships were buit) that I finall understood physically, not just mathematically, why condensers were needed. The books gave the specs of the condensers in inches of vacuum. By lowering the pressure at the outlet of the engines, the steam was used more efficiently, as the power is based on the difference in pressure from inlet to exhaust.
I would love to see more Grand Plans, that was indeed a beautiful look at a gorgeous piece of what is quite frankly. And very very educational too, thank you for the video!
I wanted to learn to do this, so much so that I looked at going back to college for it.
They had transitioned to computerized drafting, so I didn't do it. Yet, at least.
For ships I'd like to see in this series, any one of the Bollin trio or Aquitania would be my pick!
What beautiful plans, and what a fun episode!
You say you want to draw like this, Mike, but the good news is you can! It just takes practice. I believe in you!
Another great video! I love working on ships so it’s interesting to learn about what came before! Great job 😊
I enjoyed that.
Feedback: I couldn't really follow where your cursor was pointing during some of the explanations.
Otherwise absolutely fantastic series idea. I am here for the next episodes
I'm going to add a little light on the military side of her design. Mauretania along side her sister were designed to be Q-Ships. In exchange for gov. funding Mauretania, and Lusitania were designed to be armed at the whim of the Royal Navy. Q-ships were not.. and never expected to actually stand up to a real warship.... But it was thought ships like this would oppose commerce raiders.
The Mauretania is my favorite liner of all time, so glad to see you doing a video on her. Especially focusing on the in-depth design process I love context like this. Kudos yet again, continue to love your content.
I'd love to see a video done detailing the Normandie's deck plans. She was absolutely magnificent, inside and out.