As a wrestler that cuts weight five months out of the year the thoughts and feelings they were having is definitely real. The dinner story where they would be mad at people who didn’t eat hit so close.
One time, i was so thirsty, that when i finally got just a glass of water, the water was delicious and tasty to me.. i think when you deprave yourself from either food or drink, your mind will make it so much more rewarding for you, when you finally get it.. once again, the power of the mind is extraordinary!
Yea when i was a kid i used to play soccer very hard just so when i'd get home i could drink a bottle of cold water and feel that extraordinary satisfaction😂
@@PotatoFried17yep, that flowing of water down your throat, somehow feels like some delicious food going down, like soul entering your body, yep felt that after long runs and soccers
@@kaptainkabul9499im pretty sure you’d expect some sort of reward back if you were starved like that but based on your judgement on this persons comment I don’t think you can even fathom extreme hunger pains
@@lorierush6561 Unfortunatelly. We dont necessary see pain and misery in daily life bit it happen all the time. Every new upcoming year our society is tolerating more and more diffrent actions. Im not sure if its even possible to change this course of events. At least not alone
Those guys who ate when they weren't supposed to had NOT lost the ability to behave rationally. They were doing the most rational thing they could have possibly done. Anyway, this study shows us one reason that the thinking of anorexics is so crazy.
Another thing that happened in this study was that the men found that healthy looking bodies looked fat to them. It’s the brains coping mechanism with being malnourished, which is why anorexics tend to judge others bodies a lot. It’s not because they are dumb, or wrong, it’s because their brains are literally showing themselves and other people as fatter than they are to psychologically protect them from the distress.
Exactly. I mean, yeah, he lost the ability to control his actions with reason, as his survival instict took control, but his behaviour was not unrational.
Back in the 40s, humans were a lot less knowledgeable and compassionate towards basic human survival needs. Nowadays because of this experiment we as humans, can provide proper help to starving people, as well as have the information on what starving does to a person. The experiment was needed to know the information we know today.
But also, those who didn’t witness such, & were leeched off their empathy or already lacked such, could not reach such a conclusion on their own. Well at least for the basics or vague picture.
I didn’t grow up with a disorder just a mom who didn’t feed me and my brothers. We ate maybe once or twice a week. There’s a feeling indescribable when you find out people get three meals a day. To this day I can easily go a day without eating. I don’t now. I saw people at school complain about the food. I couldn’t get enough of it. I used to watch cartoons and just gaze at the big chicken drums they had.
@@darpan2161 oh yea I’m 19 years old eating very good now that I have my own job. The problem is I walk into stores now and don’t know what to get since I didn’t have that choice as a kid. But yea I’m all good now I’m grateful for the hard times I had I wouldn’t be who I am today.
@@PatrickQuarles Sounds like your mom sucks big time. At least it gave you an advantage for survival, so it's not all bad. Do you have any development problems, i.e. ostheoporosis or small stature ? Btw not trying to upset you, my mom sucks too, so I'm just curious.
@@PatrickQuarlesthats how i am. Except i just barely eat because i dont like the taste of food. So going to the store is difficult because ill buy like chips and thats it lmao
I’m currently dealing with an disordered eating, no one else knows this and watching this makes me feel comfort that I cannot explain. I throw up after I eat and I skip as many meals I can per day, I measure and weight myself consistently and I avoid food intake as much as I can. But I am slowly but surely trying to stop myself from this habits. When I deprived myself of food, I thought about it almost all the time, I got used to that feeling of hunger that when I did eat, I felt sick. This was only for a week or two of throwing up and skipping meals but I have struggled with body image for years. I am still trying to tell myself it’s okay to eat.
As a person who suffered for over a decade with a severe eating disorder, I hope that you seek help. I have been in recovery for 12 years now and I am a completely different person now (in a good way) who enjoys life, and food, without guilt or obsession or the fear of losing control. Life is so much better on the other side. I would never go back to the days of torture when I was slowly killing myself from this disease. I really hope you can find peace with yourself. I could not have done it without the help from the team at the inpatient treatment facility I went to. It was hell getting thorough treatment and I resented every person there, but I am forver grateful that I overcame my disorder and experience the freedom of recovery today.
"I skip as many meals I can per day" - as a person who doesn't have access to food, reading that line made me so f*cking angry. Wish we could swap places. At the same time, I don't wish hunger onto anyone in the world, and hope that you will recover one day.
I don’t have eating disorder. I can’t relate. But i hope these advices are good… it really is okay to eat. Every other creatures and species in this life eats. Eating is a natural and normal thing. You don’t have to feel ashamed for that.
Most people do not judge you on the outside. Most wait until you say something. I have a lot of family with addiction problems. Bulimia is an addiction. My babysitter's daughter was bulimic and she lost the only baby she got pregnant with. Her and her husband never had kids and now they are too old. She destroyed that life with her addiction. I see it as no different than if she was doing crack.
this literally describes what it feels like to have an eating disorder, but in an eating disorder you can't just "stop the experiment" cuz if you eat you'll feel so guilty and anxious and worried, it's exhausting.
This made me think of Eugenia cooney tbh how people are always saying she knows what she’s doing and is being like that on purpose. I truly don’t believe she’s in control of her mind at this point imagine this experiment but doing it for over 10 years that’s like how she’s living.
@@anasdomain9994yea I feel really terrible for her. But also, I still think she knows what she's doing lol. she can profit off of people who fetishize her. Not to mention tons of young girls envying her body, which she posts in revealing clothes often. Recovering from anorexia isn't something that can happen easily, but glamorizing it on the internet so publicly could probably stop whenever she wanted it to. (Honestly blame her mom for it all tho, enabling her and not protecting her from herself. She should've gotten her daughter help sooner. Breaks my heart for Eugenia
I had anorexia and thankfully I did stop. It was the year 2004 and I did MDMA and on the come down I looked in the mirror and saw how skinny I actually was. It was like a filter was lifted and I could see what I actually looked like and that day forth I was no longer anorexic. It was the only time I’ve done MDMA and it might of saved my life.
I just wanna add that I felt no guilt nor anxiety. I was glowing and felt renewed. I’m sure it wouldn’t work for everyone but it was pretty damn amazing.
As a person who suffered with disordered eating I can relate to so many things that reminded me of what I felt when I was at my lowest. I'm so glad I recovered 💌
It reminds me during the days my eating disorders were at peak. I would limit myself eating only around 1200 calories a day, no sugar, just greens a small morsels of lean meat + a boiled egg. It reached a point I was so obsessed with food I would have so much conflicting thoughts and I would spend hours daydreaming about food and how to get rid of calories by exercising just to insert a few morsels. It became exhausting, I feel lost and disconnected and what I think all the time is food. During that time I was also doing intermittent fasting, sometimes one meal only in a day. Each minute I would stare at the clock and can’t wait for the time to finally eat my meal since I felt really hungry and deprived. In time, the tolls of hunger hit me and I went on a binge eating a tub of ice cream, 2 large burgers and a box of pizza with 1L of soda. Feeling guilty afterwards, I purged everything out by forcing myself to vomit it. It then went to a cycle of purging and binging until I decided to get help since I know Im really fucking myself not only physically but mentally.
This was me too, a few years ago I’m 5’2” and went from 172 to115lbs in a very sickly way. 900 calories a day, watched sugars/calories. Paced around my house (I was 17-18 at the time) to burn calories. Now I’m 150 and weightlift three times a week Now it’s protein counting and I’ve gotten over my eating disorder but the struggle continues.
woah. it's interesting how differently people act when having an eating disorder. i have anorexia nervosa and i usually i just drink milk tea or lattes multiple times (as meals i guess?), but sometimes i'd eat solid foods like toast or fruit. abut i never felt that daydreaming of food and going crazy of hunger, instead i'd go crazy whenever i ate more than i feel comfortable with, like for example a whole burger etc, that i'd end up purging it (forcing myself to puke it out). food never gives me a happy feeling, more like regret and feeling pathetic after a meal. most extreme case i ate 3 whole pizza slices and the guilt i felt was so overwhelming that i didn't eat and drink anything other than water for 10 days (starved). i'm doing better now though thankfully :)
@@bingbong6323same... My limit was 300-500 calories a week for nearly a year consistently, and then on n off for the next 6 years but only now at 25 i kinda developed binge eating (i'd eat till i gag/puke in my mouth, and sometimes i even start blacking out if i skipped ONE meal in a day) however if i end up broke or was able to avoid sweet food for quite some time then i can eat normally for a while. But still, it took years for that to happen whereas this experiment only took weeks n not exactly with "starving" amounts of food...
I had a major ED. I’m talking 93lbs, 12 bmi, less than 6% body fat. The starvation wasn’t the worst part, because of ketosis. It was the healing, just as this study showed. I developed severe anxiety, OCD, and BPD. Had to go to occupational therapy for three years, and am still on medication. While I’m reaching a normal weight now, I still have to deal with the after effects of Anorexia.
When my eating disorder was at peak, I limited myself just a measly 450 calories a day. I felt exactly like these men did. All I thought about was food, every second of the day. Thats no exaggeration, every moment I was awake, and even in dreams, food consumed all my thoughts, desires, hopes, fears and excitements. It was a nightmarish way to live. I got down to 95 pounds and would lose control like some of these men did and couldn't stop myself from eating, though it stayed mostly anorexia and not a binge eating disorder. It made me lose my sanity as well. One of the few videos on this channel in which I can unfortunately understand the pain.
As a former anorexic it literally makes you psychotic …. I remember bugs crawling on my skin… carving my skin trying to get them out… falling down stairs from being too weak . Waking up in my bile vomit…. It is a horrible disease
As someone who suffers from an ED i can personally tell you that starvation is a type of hell I wouldn’t wish on the most deplorable of society. I am absolutely terrified of the recovery process as I’ve heard the horror stories of re-eating but I hope to be on the road to recovery soon here.
I'm currently recovering and refeeding is difficult af, I need to be eating high volume foods or else I can't feel satisfied. I'm still not gaining weight but I'm more energetic and that's good but 90% of the day I'm eating. :')
@@christianmarx3249 3 meals a day, all of them with a lot of protein. The rest is snacks like fruit, gluten free biscuits and nuts. I take supplements and probiotics for my muscles and gut health.
A lot survivors of the Holocaust died like this when they were finally given lots of food after they were freed from the concentration camps. Such an awful way to die.
As a person who has had (and is currently recovering) from a restrictive eating disorder (anorexia nervous), I find this highly unsettlingly relatable. In refeeding, the mere craving if food drives me insane and the constant ravenous sensation devours me. I'm not able to go a couple of days without self harm or feeling so weak that I could bare get out of bed. May god bless everyone suffering from an eating disorder or in famine ❤
As a person with an ED,this really hits close to home. I usually eat under 500calories a day or intermittent fast. The cookbook thing is so true. I bake and cook for my whole family everyday,and i watch them eat the food. I count the amount of calories other people from my class eat everyday and then compare myself (especially my body) to them. I learned the exact amount of calories in each and every single type of food,from fruits,to veggies to sweets and even breads... I went from a girl who was often described as calm and patient to a person who was easily irritated and angry at people. I've lost my period and my teen horniness in the span of 2-3 months i think? I used to do lots of extreme stuff just so that i can burn the extra calories that i may have eaten (or when i see the number on the scale not going down everyday). I once carried a 6kg(15lbs) watermelon after me for 8km(5 miles) in the middle of a summer day so that i could lose weight faster and understand what 6kg means. My taste in food has changed too: i went from a general foodie to an absolute food devourer whenever i'm having an OMAD. I even went at some point to fantasize about getting locked up and beaten so that i could starve and get all skinny and boney. I sometimes look at small kids on the streets and become envious of their legs (i have the fattest fucking thighs ever). I sh and let the blood drain out so that the i can feel lighter. I've even formed a small tic of touching my ribs just to feel the bones protrude through me. i fantasize about being all skin and bones,of no longer having a body;a physical self. I genuinely don''t want to be percieved anymore.
I did a month’s worth of this during aircrew survival course, first two weeks in a semi jungle setting, we got food for 3 times a day, starting the second week they gradually put us to a 2 times a day eat schedule, on the 3rd week swamp setting, just once a day and we eat snails (belitong) , and for the fourth week jungle setting, no food, i just drink river water for 7 days whilst making a rower and wove rope from dried tree bark, during the third week all we think was food, our conversation revolves around the restaurants we’d like to go, after the fourth week is done we got a day for isolation training, they left us in a designated area alone and we have to keep lighting the fire using whatever in our surroundings, the day they gave us porridge and magically all our thoughts of food disappear, can’t eat spicy food for three days, but we ate spicy chicken and collectively have diarrhea 😂. 10/10, would never do again 😅.
i also stopped eating spicy food for two weeks when i went to a country with non-spicy cuisine. after coming home and eating spicy skewers, i had the worst stomachache of my life 🤣
this comment was so needed and it randomly answered something for me. (the spicy food part) thanks for leaving this comment. You did well on that. creditz
I was a starved orphan in 90s Romania and even as an adult I’m protective of my food, and take a bunch at a time. It’s not active, my mom pointed it out over the years. I eventually got adopted, but for the first mb 5-10 years, in elementary school, I’d still eat out of trash n off the floor. Hell the other kids threw stuff on the floor to watch me eat it. I realized that part as I got older. Of course it stays with you. If I didn’t get adopted I would’ve died I was that bad off. To this day I fucking hate when people waste food or eat a ridiculous amount. When I first came to America, I loved watching Julia Child’s cooking show. Mb that’s why? I used to steal food too. When I got adopted I never stopped eating, mom asked my dr and he said keep feeding her, she is catching up.
I hope you're doing well and have a better life now. Western kids are cruel by their very nature. Don't let that get to you. I hope you have a great life. ❤
I've had eating disorders; anorexia, bulimia, binge eating. But NOTHING compared to when I was violently ill while pregnant. I didn't eat anything for 7 weeks and I couldn't keep water down either. I was so malnourished and loosing my mind I dreamt of my Greek family shoving food down my throat, and I would eat green grapes and watermelon they were the best to throw up. I was the worst. I can't imagine going 6 months without any food 😢
I am so sorry to hear all of this. The feeling of being starving but not able to even hold down a Sip of Gatorade is so.. idk how to describe it other than feeling on the brink of death.
I once had an awful case of the flu that felt a lot like this. I could barely handle 5 days of it, let alone 7 weeks, you're very strong. Im so sorry for your loss, I hope things get better for you.
I had hyperemesis gravidarium during pregnancy. It was hell. I know of a few women who’s organs started shutting down because they couldn’t keep food down.
@@jupiterwillow9618 I’m sorry I was in California… The MMJ community definitely helped with those symptoms during the first trimester… There’s an extract in honey that’s used in the Jamaican islands and a whole medical study that was done on it. I pray the best for you
I have anorexia. I've gone through periods of loosing and gaining weight for years now. I've gone days without eating, I've given myself severe vitamin deficiencies. My body is ruined and will never be the same. Binging can last from one episode to months. I've had times I've binged until the scale was 10-20lbs heavier than I was in the morning. Putting on 22lbs within 3 weeks kinda bullshit. You cant control yourself during a binge, I would fight anyone who tried to stop me from clearing the pantry. I didnt choose to have this, anorexia is a result of you trying to cope with trauma by gaining control over food.
i used to severely restrict my eating and always thought about food - in the morning, trying to convince myself to not eat; in the afternoon, about whether i should have my single meal of the day (usually like a bowl of cereal, oatmeal, or just an egg or banana); and at night, what i would do the next day and when i would eat. still recovering from this mindset and i still think obsessively about food and tbh i miss when i didn't think so much about what i was eating
I'm on a bit of a fast but worst part is stress that actually makes me more hungry. As I can admit is a bit of a comfort after stress. When that happens I just have something to eat and that's me for the day.
The way your brain and body will do so much to get you to eat is so fascinating. I had an ED for years. I ate entire loaves of bread on multiple occasions. I’d eat pounds of food. My stomach would hurt so much, yet I couldn’t stop eating. It only got better by eating a normal amount of food for a couple of years. I also said strange things sometimes, like I couldn’t think clearly. I had a panic attack because of it, I got in front of a class once and couldn’t think of a single thing I needed to say. My mind was totally blank yet overwhelmed at the same time. It was scary. If you have an ED, trust me, it gets better. Recovery is worth it.💗
So i think i’m going through something similar… i starved myself for exactly eight months and was diagnosed w an for it but now ever since halloween of last year i have been bingeing none stop eating so much breads and sweets even stuff that isn’t even yummy to me i eat i try so hard to starve again but fail within a few days after starving and binge eat again i went from a drastic 70 pounds to 135 pounds within 9 months i’ve tried getting help but i’m afraid that it can take years or just a long time to recover from an ed from what your saying….. plus i am in high school
As someone who has competed in a couple of bodybuilding shows, I absolutely agree with the information on the refeeding process. When I am prepping for a show, my caloric intake drops tremendously over time as I get closer to the day I step on the stage. In fact truth is, the day before the show I eat the least amount of food I will ever eat, literally sitting at roughly 1240 calories. The few days after the competition I undergo a refeeding process, which is some of the hardest things to do. My body got so used to not eating, that eating decent amounts of meals becomes almost impossible. Literally eating like a big Buffet meal after a competition is highly not recommended.
I hate how people treat the homeless , theyre often told that they dont deserve anything because of the choices they make but go as long as then without food or shelter and tell me you’re still a rational thinking person i bet you cant
After knowing I can't do certain things. I can sympathize with some of them. As it is hard unless you go to gym or train. Some of these things aren't easy.
Well not all homeless people have the same personalities, same with non-homeless people. Some are twats and rude, some are nice. Out of those options who would you rather help? Does rational thinking constitute being a crappy person or a decent one?
When I was basic training for the Marine Corps i noticed some of these symptoms, albeit on a much milder level then the subjects in the study. Being naturally very skinny I had never cared much for fatty meats such as bacon or ribeye steak and if I would eat something like bacon it was always crispy and I would wipe off the grease. But around a month in basic I started craving things like I never had before, the fat and grease from bacon especially and I found myself dreaming about going to chow and getting served fatty bacon. I also craved foods like candy and cakes and ice cream and when we finally got liberty after the crucible I gorged myself on a whole pizza and two energy drinks and a nauseating amount of candy😂. I felt so sick but overwhelming content and once I got out of boot camp I gorged myself on any and all food(even foods that I had never liked before) for about two months and gained around 20ibs. As an American who never had to worry about starving I can’t imagine having to starve for such a long period of time and really makes you think about people that starve against their will during times of war or famine.
The participants were very selfless and brave. They chose to do this for others despite the war being a hard time for them as well. I could never throw myself into such a kind of suffering. Too bad they didn't receive the proper treatment from the government. Their physical and mental health were scarred for life.
They were conscientious objecters. That was the equivalent to a coward back then. They probably felt they didn't have a choice considering they wouldn't help any other way.
I don't have a speck of sympathy for them, even less from knowing the details of the front line troops. And even FAR worse was the treatment of Allied prisoners by the Japanese. No.. these "conscientious objectors" are cowards and their so-called "ordeal" was NOTHING compared to what the real heroes and non-cowards had to endure. Minus 100 below zero sympathy for them.
@@daneaxe6465 So, what? Some small percentage of dudes didn't want to die for their country just so others could survive. Not a bad trade IMO, I'd rather stick it out with my family at this point in life, especially with the way the government is now.
@@daneaxe6465 You try starving and stop taking your privilege for granted. A. You'll likely die for some reason or another because you did try. B. You'll likely pussy out on day four because you're more talk than action and you think it's cowardly to starve yourself, when in reality, it's cowardly to have fed yourself through immoral means, such as theft. Do not call it cowardly when 'observers' still experienced what's tantamount to a LOT of people's entire lives, including childhood, where kids never even made it to teens, let alone adulthood. You still being alive is not a blessing, it's not a right, it's simply your circumstances stacked against stronger people, who would do your entire life twice as well and twice as intellectually, having endured what you cannot. C. You definitely didn't starve, nearly die, nor were you chained in some basement to become a mere progeny for bastard children. You had a good life in relation to so many others. No, it's not cowardly what these people did... it's taken for granted, but it's not cowardly. They demonstrated and nobody learned. People still struggle and the experiment ultimately advanced a small part of science that goes untouched. You were spanked? That's cute. You have nine hours of sleep... and they get three. Only.
this is so sad they preyed on altruism and caring about other ppl and wanting to help them and literally weren’t even compensated for their struggles. some of these people may have irreparable permanent brain damage from all that deficiency. it’s sad how so many after discovering how bad it got fell into the sunken cost fallacy even after all that. my heart weeps for all brave and compassionate souls who decided to involve themselves for the betterment of others.
As someone who has been semi starving my entire life to the benefit of nobody I can honestly say I would participate in a study like this if it would help people
unfortunately they need people who are quote unquote normal at baseline We, psychological outliers, don't provide an accurate approximation of what happens to a "normal" person. Some of us maintain semi-starvation for a decade or more. Many would have been throwing rocks at sparrows by that point; our "adaptation" is valuable for study but your mental health comes first. In the '40s the Forces routinely destroyed their servicemen and disposed of em, we still do it today.
I’m sad to say that you probably couldn’t enter a study like that because it could be you just have a low metabolism or some other physical of mental issue and they are studying what happens when they have people that are involuntarily starving thus having a voluntary participant wouldn’t give them the results needed if that makes sense??
you either are biologically capable of eating less or you have a mental condition that makes you eat less, they need people who are Statistically normal everyday. People with no mental or physical problems as a baseline experiment. Control
Cannibalism becomes more acceptable to people starving because the body starts to shut down not only organs, but also the part of the brain that generates rational thought
In China, the government forced many farmers to work on factories to expedite the process of becoming a power house of production. All in the name of growth to become something other than a third world country. Unfortunately the country suffered from millions of deaths due to a lack of food production. It became common for families to sell their children for food, or to even cannibalized their loved ones. Those in power concluded that the country doesn’t need that many people to succeed anyways. So they did little to change the system.
I'm at the end of a 14 day fast (no food, just water). I do think constantly about food, and i can confirm that while my mood is even, its like theres no more joy...i dont laugh at the usual things i would..and things just seem so much more tedious than before. Though,i am able to be with people and chat with them while they eat. I dont get angry at them for leaving food behind or anything like that, afterall, in my case, i am the one that choose to do this to myself and I can eat whenever I want. It sucks that there's people that don't have a choice to eat whenever they want and the proper amount.
As someone with an ed i know that food changes the way you see life i feel so disconnected and moody i cant imagine how bad it must be for poor starving people 😟
Surprised to see a guy with as much talent as you getting such low recognition. Haven't watched the video yet, but I just wanted to say that your videos in general cover very interesting topics and you have a great narrator voice! Keep up the good work, man!
Regarding your video's question towards the end: I actually starved myself in high school for over 2-5 years. It was an eating disorder I created to cope from a real unsafe family situation. It absolutely made me weird so I needed to compensate using only parts of a normal personality to function during my self-taught rehabilitation phase. It made my ability to analyze people, situations, find weak points even, and future predict extremely developed but other aspects about me are underdeveloped to this day. (Oddly enough, I'm a professional responsible for people atm) But, I still have rather prolonged contortions of agony when I'm not on the clock.
I had my jaw wired shut for 6 weeks from a broken jaw. I was starving, lost 50 lbs. I remember watching my family eat and I felt like a dog just wanting that food so bad 😂 I dreamt about food and thought about it a lot. Starvation is terrible.
I had ED that led me to periods when i starved myself just to know if i can handle it. One of these episodes i decided to eat nothing for approximately a week, only allowing myself to drink one sweet coffee a day and of course water. I knew i should stop this when i went to drink water and couldn't stop, all i was thinking about was water cure torture, i thought if i felt pain because of how much water is inside of me i wouldn't feel hunger anymore Ended up wiping the floors because i accidentally threw up all that water while walking
If you hadn't vomited, you'd probably shit it out within the hour. I once worked a long hot day without drinking much of anything. Came home absolutely parched and drank about 2/3 of a gallon of water in just a couple minutes. Felt nauseous but did not vomit. However, about 40 minutes later I suddenly felt like I was going to crap my pants, made it to the toilet, and promptly evacuated about 2/3 gallon of faintly shit tinted water.
I have chronic pancreatitis. I couldn’t eat anything for a long while. After close to a month I could have a spoonful of plain yogurt. I dreamt about whoppers and other food. It was intense. I think I needed the Percocet at the time more for the hunger pains than the pancreatitis.
Oh I should mention. I had a ritz cracker when I could finally start eating food again, just tiny amounts. The ritz was the first solid thing I’d eaten in a long while. It was the saltiest, butteriest, best thing I’d ever had. It was so flavorful I could’ve sworn it was given to me by God himself.
Thabks bud, I appreciate it. I’ll always have pancreas problems and be a diabetic due to it but it could be worse. I’m thankful to be alive after it happened. 👍
@@joshuawesteros5345 That's actually a good way to listen to our body what it needs. It can tell us through taste. It is naturally expressed by what we are in the mood for and what we cannot stand anymore after having had it for too long, since diversification lowers risk of deficiencies. As for your various ailments, the channel "Dr. Eric Berg DC" has tons of helpful healthy diet info you can browse for whatever topic you like and while it might not be the ultimate truth, it can help understand how to empower the body to become the most healthy. Maybe you can even transfer the tips to your special situation. Sometimes not eating, whether coerced or out of lack of appetite, can actually be helpful for boosting healing, provided that the body has all the necessary micronutrients.
During the worst and longest depressive episode in my life (which is still kinda ongoing but I’ve taken some baby steps forward) I could not eat. I was starving because I just couldn’t stomach any food. I survived on a couple bites of whatever non filling foods every day, literally only a couple bites a day. The thing is that after some time, when I had been starving for a while, food consumed my every thought. I wanted to eat so bad, I fantasized binging the most yummy foods. The problem was that my body wouldn’t let me. Every single bite I took resulted in the despair intensifying greatly, I even had to be careful with drinking water since too much would also send me spiraling down really fast, no matter how thirsty or hungry I was. And now, even though I’m eating somewhat normally, I still have some leftover effects of the starvation. Whenever I eat too late, instead of kind of accumulating over some time, the signs of starvation appear almost immediately. I learned to be thankful for my appetite and ability to eat. If I want to eat something then I eat it, because I can. I want everyone to realize how amazing it is not to have to worry about appetite and food and such. Enjoy your meals, happy eating😊
It was a similar story for me for some reason since childhood I didn't eat as much as I should've. I ate 3 meals s day and looks of snacks etc growing up, but I was always so thin I had a starving belly like the starving kids in Africa had, but not as big. As a child to 17, I ate 3 meals on time going to school. I don't start eating late meals or even skipping meals once or twice until college nd I was warned. But I was always skinny with a starving belly fat before I started eating late meals. I heard I was so skinny because my dad was a heavy smoker, who heartbreakingly passed away 5 years ago. But it never explained me being so skinny to the point of belly fat before I started eating late meals, I continued eating meals late in my early 20s and now mid 30s. I started eating meals on time in my mid 20s but the belly fat more thinness never went v away. I also ate lots of snacks. Now I try to eat my meals on time but I slipped again during work, where i move around a lot. I'm 5' and 80lb. I have been since Fishkill. I have less access to snacks, but I'm trying to intake more calories and nutrient v rich foods like nuts, fruits, bananas. I'm going to find a lot of snacks too. This vid explains why I liked cooking stuff a lot, nd thought I'd like being an Event specialist. I was obsessed with food. But I'd still only binge on cookies after watching cooking stuff or writing as an Event Specialist for 5 hours.
Yeah that’s maybe the saddest part: the brochures made these grand moral pronouncements. But all that happened was, a bunch of very conscientious people were crushed for the ‘insight’ that starvation is debilitating , which science knew already
I was born to poverty and difficulty. Not much has changed really. Starvation was ever prevalent and its effects are terrible on both mind and body. The perpetuate splitting headaches, the depression, the rage. Every single day. My joints screamed, I was fatigued and starved for sleep. I felt different from all those around me. I was different. They could laugh, they could play. They could leave uneaten food on their pig ridden plates. I still feel rage when I see uneaten food. I have nothing and appreciate everything. Others take everything for granted. Almost like seeing a garage filled with junk and the car sits outside. Imbeciles. The effects of starvation have likely ruined me. I have no interest in dating. Only working, making money, snowboarding, and cooking. I have a cabinet full of cook books from video game universes like Skyrim to fallout. My parties are making elaborate dinners from video game universes and serving them to guests. I will finish by saying I once went 3 days without food. My first meal that time was an apple. I ate it, core, seeds and all.
If you can find a healthy balance, that would be ideal. Brief fasting phases can be very beneficial to health, so if you can remember that, maybe that eases on the urge a bit. Several times in recent years I fasted for 4-5 days while doing performance sports daily and felt great and not hungry. It cleaned any messed up baggage from the body, like misformed proteins and all that. Memory improved noticeably. Currently after a phase of eating more than I probably needed, I naturally went into a phase of interval fasting where I eat (as always) not before hunger occurs and then in a 3-5 hours window and that's it for the day. That leaves the body with the maximum daily time of not having to digest food but go into elevated self-repair. Remember that fear traumas rule and dominate our life until we find purpose in life through defying them by gently finding back to a serene balance. We send what we are into the world, so when we heal ourselves, we also heal the world. And lately it has become particularly obvious how much humankind needs healing from fear traumas.
Wow! Never knew about this! What heroes!! I’m from Holland and was raised on stories from my dad and others telling me about the Hunger Winter. People starving all around once the Germans left/were kicked out. People eating flower bulbs just to get some nutrition. And then, once airdrops of canned food started, people literally eating till their stomachs burst. I still can’t leave any food uneaten on my plate.
Heroes???????? Just the opposite. The heroes did their duty and did not hide behind some religion to cover for their cowardice. The heroes are buried in cemeteries in Holland, France, Belgium and Pacific islands and in the depths of the oceans. The heroes were in hospitals suffering from horrific pain from wounds, many loosing limbs and those who didn't die from gangrene lived with psychological scars the rest of their lives. No, these cowards camped out in comfortable safe Minneapolis, not dodging bullets, stepping on landmines, being torn to unrecognizable pieces by artillery or tanks. Do NOT use the word HERO to describe such pathetic men, they are the opposite of heroes.
This reminds me of stories from my oma, who was a dutch child in an Indonesian camp run by the japanese. She was also starved, and when they finally could return to the Netherlands after the war they found out everyone else was starving too. It also makes me think of the newer information we have now about people who experience famines having children who can better survive famines, and therefore become diabetic from the modern lifestyle. Diabetes is rife in my family.
They deserve to have "COWARD" tattooed on their faces. The women who volunteered for service are FAR more deserving of recognition than a bunch of cowards using religion to weasel out of service. While millions suffered FAR worse food and conditions these clowns got to ride out in comfort in Minneapolis. Stow the medal BS...please...its nauseating.
@@mateuszkolodziej5787 all that matters, and I think we both agree, is that we have more than enough food produced to feed the world so no one should starve, wherever they live/are born/are from
@@smileyp4535 Sadly the world does not work like that and even if we had 3x more food than needed. Some people still would not get it. But i respect the optimism
I remember when i deprived my eating in order to lose weight. I lost like 20kgs and it was also the results of heavy workouts because it was my primary goal at that moment. I remember eating even a chocolate was a huge guilt for me. Now a year after i work in stressful job and my sleep patterns are broke down, and i gained back 12kg however i eat whatever i want ofcourse without exaggerating it and i can tell that, eating whatever you like is one of the most undervalued things in the life.
I've done this before just to save money, it didn't drive me over the edge but I could definitely see the edge. I haven't been that hard up for cash for about 10 years now but when I'd finally had enough of it after almost a year I only weighed 125 lbs. My healthy weight is 150 to 160, I think these guys went harder though. I wouldn't do it again, I think I'm perma-phuked now because a lot of phantom nerve pain and stomach issues are still cropping up even though I eat well and stay in shape. Oh well, I bought a house with that hustle so it was a fair enough trade.
Hey! The video was great (as always) and I really appreciate you speaking about this subject, as it's extremely interesting. Moreover, I unfortunately have my own experience with starvation as I was diagnosed with anorexia 2 years ago and I can surerly say that not only the starvation but the refeeding faze as well as just horrible, but I still cannot imagine what these men went through just for the sake of an experiment.
An experiment is good in that you remove a lot of noise and assumptions. We know starvation is bad but not always what it will do to those affected. Still, I think a part of this experiment was overlooked- I think being voluntarily subjected is different than being held hostage. A whole new element is introduced when the will of the patient changes.
Anybody who has struggled with an eating disorder related to these symptoms on a personal level. I can’t believe I ever put myself through this willingly - there is so much more to live for.
The most vivid hallucinations I ever experienced where from my eating disorder. It literally got to where I was blurring reality with things that where not happening. The mind is quite scary
As someone who went through some bad disordered eating habits throughout my late junior high to early high school years, these study results hit differently. Obsessing over food is no joke; every thought I had that didn't pertain to school simply revolved around food and how I could be in control of not only it, but myself too. Watching other people eat their food, looking up recipes online, waiting for specific times to eat just a tiny portion of food and even installing coloring apps on my phone just to color pictures of food took up a lot of my time. My personality changed so much too; it only took something small to make my temper rocket out of control. People picking apart my eating habits ESPECIALLY made me snappy and furious. I'm so thankful that time of my life is done and through now, but I'll never forget it or the effects it left on my mentality and body. It's absolutely terrifying to see what starvation does to a person and it makes me so sad to think that there are still many people out there who go through even a fraction of this horror. The Minnesota Starvation experiment taught us many important lessons about us and our bodies, and what these men went through was absolutely horrifying
I once went about two days barely eating with a lot of activity. During the end I noticed that my sense of smell intensified like 10 times out of nowhere .It was trippy. I was about a mile away from a chinese restaurant and I could just smell their fryer that far away.
I know what you mean. I’m struggling with an eating disorder. I try to get better and never go longer than 3 days without eating. Still my sense of smell is incredible.
When I was younger, I used to live with my alcoholic father who never really cared about us. As a result, I would always feel hungry and to this day, I tend to steal food and eat excessively, fearing that I might not have another chance to eat. Although it's not rational, I still have this urge to binge eat because I feel like I need to hoard food for later. Even though I know that food won't disappear, I am always in a state of anxiety and fear when it comes to food.
5:08 This reminds me of my childhood. My family was penniless. So my little siblings and I would go dumpster diving in front of our classmates. All for us to snatch some leftover food from the cafeteria. Knowing the scraps would help not only us, but the rest of the fam back _'home'._ On top of that, my dad would get absolutely furious whenever we didn't finish our meals. Didn't matter if we were kids. The reason for that is because he himself went through starvation as an adult. He was able to survive back then by stealing a few bites of food here and there. And then came my turn. I was kidnapped by my _'mother'_ as a tween. We ended up homeless. Couch surfing. So it didn't cross my mind to start dating anyone during or after the incident. Survival was more important. An I knew falling for someone at that stage would be dangerous with how my mental state was. I wouldn't have made any rational decisions. But I guess now things are slightly better. My dad still has the bad habit in overfeeding us though.
I still remember back when i was around 14/15 i could go two weeks on single toast with a bit of meat, a slice of tomato and a bit of mozzarella. Its not because i was anorexic or anything like this. I was just hella suicidal, to the point that i stoped feeling hunger (i know that sounds wrong, but like for real, i would eat single toast, and for next two weeks i could not feel hunger. I was eating when i was feeling hungry and not based om some schedule.). My sleep schedule was also quite fucked then, i could go with about 14 hours sleep per week, at some point i started to wonder "how im still alive? I dont eat, i dont sleep, i just drink water.". To be honest i dont think i could be able to do it nowdays, nowdays the longest i can go on a single toast is about two days, and when it comes to sleep i need at least 4 hours, not 2 hours like i did back in the day. (But then back in the day i got 2 hours sleep per day, but not all at once, i had a polyphasic sleep schedule, meaning i didint sleep 2h at once, but something like 30 minutes 4 times per day. Polyphasic sleep is also knows as davincis naps.)
I also would like to mention that at that time i had so little "active time" as possible, i just walked to the bus, from bus to school, then from school to bus and then from bus home. I had headphones with music on like 20h per day, and i was "in my head" all the time. To be honest, now when i look back at that time, even tho that mentally that was one of the lowest points in my life, i would love to go back to that time. If i could relive that time with my current knowledge, i would still do it the same way.
And before anyone asks, 185cm and about 55-65kg. Now days i walk about 15k steps per day (sometimes more), and i try to exercise daily. Still i dont eat on a schedule, rather on the feeling of hunger, sometimes it can occur once per day and other times multiple times per day. I dont have any health problems because of it, but i still wouldnt recommend it to any one (im no nutritionist, nor i have any deeper knowledge regarding that topic, i just know what works good for me.)
(ED trigger warning for anyone who cares to read) This is eerily similar to my experience with anorexia nervosa in the past. Monotonous meals become easier to enjoy and food is all your mind can think of. The part about the men binge eating, or “cheating”, is very common and hard to deal with especially in recovery period. To think these willing participants were given two meals a day to eat and experienced such psychological horrors is terrifying, as I consumed a lot less. I can’t imagine what damage that’s done to my body over time
I've been practicing intermittent fasting for a few years now, using it as a way to challenge myself mentally and manage my weight. I've tried week-long water fasts (only water, no other food) and gone through months of daily 24-hour fasts (just one meal a day), creating a calorie deficit of around 1000 calories per day. I can totally relate to what's being discussed here - the constant thoughts about food that never seem to fade away. It's like your mind is always fixated on your next meal, and it can even lead to doubting yourself and coming up with excuses to give up, the amount of suffering these men went through cannot be undertated.
watching this as someone who's dealt with anorexia and has known lots of other people dealing with it, this is exactly the same as how we experience it. Only difference being is we were mentally ill to begin with and (usually) didn't have someone keeping us "on track". Most of us didn't realize what we were doing until we got past a significant period of time, too (like i'm talking 6+ months of rationalizing it and not realizing what we're doing is bad, since most eating disorders arent solely motivated by appearance or weight loss. It can be an attempt to self soothe or find control after a traumatic event.) But all the behavior talked about here is exactly the same as what I've seen in myself or people i've known. The timeline fits, too. It can take months before we feel the consequences of what we're doing, and food becomes the only thing on our minds and turns into an obsession. I myself would bake and cook a lot, collecting recipes, but end up giving it away. similar to the man in the video.
The mental problems caused by starvation are part of what make eating disorder recovery so difficult. By the time the patient is at a low weight, not only are they suffering from the eating disorder but also mental disturbance from being so thin. They don't have the mental strength to get better alone, and they don't believe that eating will make them feel better. It's really a touch situation. Then refeeding syndrome starts and causes all sorts of problems
As an ex pre professional ballet dancer in training, with anorexia. I had gone through that, I am currently still coming back to my senses. My hunger levels are slowly decreasing, and I no longer restrict my calories. I try eating as healthy as possible though.
Its kinda sad that as you described more and more of the experiment it dawned on me how horrible my ED has been in the past because only having two meals a day is far more than what i would actually eat when it got bad. Plus you basically just described the basic food groups that I ate as well. I emphathized when they had meals while more starved some chose to eat it quickly instead of savoring it, although my own reason was most likely different than their own. The mindset you can get into having an ED/Starvation, can warp your brain rapidly and it will make you feel exhausted trying to do things you love or to just get out of bed. Plus the menegerie of other unpleasent side effects that isn't talked about as much as they should be. Its great that the experiment helped in the long run, but I cant help but think of the life long effects of the men who did this. Especially with the psychological field back then. I can attest that i have my own lifelong struggles that have arisen from over 10+ years of a disorder that destroyed 14 of my teeth that this isn't something that just goes away with time. I hope these guys found peace in themselves and it didn't horrificly mess with their lives.
I water-fast for 10 days straight every 3 months, and never had any of the symptoms mentioned here. In fact I feel so much better after the 3rd day, your "need" for food dies out as your digestive system shuts down and goes in a survival/maintenance mode.
I put myself through a water diet for a month (made it to 2 and a half weeks) day 3 was a brutal hurdle because my brain was only focusing on where I could find food and I grew immensely irritable because food was there but I was willingly not eating. After week one I noticed some improvement and it was actually really easy to get through the days without thinking about food. Start of week 2 I started to notice I could smell everyone’s food and that started to mess with me a bit I won’t lie. Still things were easy and I could still keep going. What got me was that Wednesday of week 3………we had a company celebration for a good month (ironic as we went bankrupt a few months later) but the delivery was late and I remember smelling the food from the place we catered and I could feel myself slipping. What got me was going to the break room to fill my water jug and seeing the spread and HR handing me a loaded plate. I ate but quickly realized as good as it tasted eating again felt weird. I was actually supposed to ease my way back into eating with fruit but instead I had a full meal. A couple weeks of eating I almost convinced myself to stop because I didn’t like the way eating felt. But I pushed those thoughts back and kept going because I didn’t want to end up with an eating disorder or something like that. It was interesting to go through though for sure. I’d probably do it again but at least this time I would be better prepared and understand a bit more.
I went thru 510 days of starvation. Eating rice and drinking tea. I would usually only eat one meal per day in the evening, I had to learn how to sprout lentils and mung beans so i could have fresh greens. It was terrible. But i made it thru and am doing well now!!!
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I went psychotic after starving for months, lost all feelings. After awhile i lost all thoughts and urge to eat. My mental state mostly recoverd. Getting back the feeling back to eat or stomach food was the longest and intense effort. I dont mind eating and drinking now but i have to remind myself most times. It permanently messes with you. Regardless of unintentionally or not
My stomach is paralyzed. I cannot eat food or drink most liquids without medication. It took a year for me to learn how to consume calories without throwing up. I was overweight when i got sick. I lost over 100 pounds. It was a hellish nightmare. Being in starvation mode for that has permanently scarred me and something im still working through in therapy. I am glad i lost that weight, but not like that. I wouldn't wish that on my worst enemy
As a recovering anorexic, I can confirm that there's a certain point of malnutrition where you just start having full-blown psychotic breaks. For me, it's always been casual, mundane interactions - physical proximity, long conversations, trading quips + humour, etc. - with _hallucinations_ of ppl I'm close to, during times when I would later learn they'd been _verifiably_ present somewhere else. And even though those particular episodes had been non-threatening - _even dull_ - the dawning comprehension that I was losing the ability to distinguish between reality + illusion would always make my blood run cold. That chilling horror that I was quantifiably losing my mind has usually been a major mental turning point for me to acknowledge I've needed to start trying to get better, again. (If anyone has any questions about the intricacies of experiencing starvation that aren't answered in the vid, I'm happy to answer.)
I really hate the feeling of starvation. Because I will always choose drugs before food, because the withdrawal is so horrible, i'll starve to the point that I just start vomiting and after a while can't eat anything and have to slowly just force myself to eat something little by little. But still I'm overweight since I only starve for half of each month and half the time I'm eating alot of bacon, chips etc. But because of all this, I have no energy for anything, even when i'm eating, just getting up from the sofa is almost too hard, it feels like sprinting for a kilometer.
I once did a 500 kcal per day diet for 4 weeks while working in a bakery. I dont know what drove me to do that, it was utterly insane, i lost 17 kilos in 4 weeks before collapsing, mind you i didn't have a car license yet so i drove the 16 km to work on a bicycle.
@@Anthracite_coal might wanna check on that , one cooked egg has 56-90 kcal depending on size (source google). so if you can live almost a year on 5-7 cooked eggs, you probably could solve world hunger my dude :)
@@kdraw7178 ah I was just making fun of kilocalories, a 90 kcal egg would have some kind of quantum efficiency magic shit going on there. Imagine the sheer density of that egg, 90,000 cal there.
This reminds me of one of the most ironic historical twists I have ever heard of (and one not widely known). I'm sure you have all heard of the Donner Party (if so, skip this paragraph) they were American pioneers (led by the Donner family and consisting of about a dozen families, 87 in total, half children) who migrated west to California from the Midwest. After leaving late for their journey, they took a less traveled shortcut that was actually a longer route and ended up snowbound in the extremely harsh winter of 1846-1847, in the Sierra Nevada mountain range. They were stranded for five months in heIIish, abominable conditions (one of the coldest winters on record, w/ an 18 ft. peak snowfall!) When their food ran out, survival kicked in and a pact was made among the 45 survivors to cannibaIize those who perished, with a rule of not consuming one's own kin. Half did so, the others continued eating boiled bark. Out of the 81 members stranded, 47 survived, the oldest and youngest perished. *One can only imagine the pain and suffering they endured stranded for 5 months in some of the harshest conditions imaginable, so, it is not just tragic but ironic asf that an 18 y.o. boy named William Hook survived the starvation, only to die from eating too much a day after getting rescued!!* No, he didn't burst. Eating too quickly (too much food too fast) can cause what's known as "Refeeding Syndrome" where the swift reintroduction of food back to the body will cause severe electrolyte disturbances that can have myriad effects on the body, such as seizures, heart failure, coma and death. When William was brought to the camp erected to house and rehabilitate the survivors, he broke into a locked shed housing food supplies. When the woman running the camp saw him sitting on the ground outside the shed eating the stolen food, she called out his name and told him to stop, at that point William stopped, turned around while still seated on the floor and collapsed dead before saying a word. How this isn't more well known, is beyond me. If curious...out of almost a dozen families, only two made it without losing any members...the Reeds and the Breens (the Reeds never resorted to cannibaIism). All corpses died naturally, except for two Miwok Indian guides (Luis and Salvador) murdered by hunger-crazed William Foster who sh0t them in the head (with a few others butchered the bodies). *If the numbers don't add up: 87 started the journey, 81 got stranded. 45 survivors at the camp during the pact, but 15 left prior to get help (out of which 7 survived).*
Worked hard most of my life. Had to have a kidney surgery, then a shoulder surgery. Then separated Friday March 13th 2019. Eventually divorce. Had to have a right shoulder surgery then a left shoulder surgery, then a wrist surgery. Through this time ended up in a shed, couldn't work, no government assistance. Average one meal a day for ten months went from 140 lbs. to 110 lbs. In that state, a state that I didn't volunteer for. Was a kin to starvation, add in the isolation, depression, loss of kids, land , home, vehicles. ...and much more . Almost my sanity.
It may be any number of meals but low total calories (compared to the energy need of the person in question. 1500 kcal isn't starvation for many of us). Total starvation is one thing but there is low-key starvation where the food is very much insufficient but not close to zero. if I eat 1000 kcal a day in 6 meals , that's severe starvation. And a hellish existence as I suffer without my decent sized meals (big for most other people I suppose).
we can talk about intermittend fasting but starving is disgusting. I'm very glad I did not choose Bodybuilding as my favorite strength sport, some friends from my Gym tend to go compete very other year or so and they turn into complete psychos while they are in the higher caloric deficit weeks. right before they go on stage, they load up, that means they finally put a decent amount of good carbs into their bodies, so the muscle fills up the energy reserves and looks fuller, whilst they are below the 5% bodyfat mark. it is mentally absolutely horrible and even after they were done with the competition and decided to "lmao let's go finally eat KFC" it is apperently rly rly hard to get "enough" food in and keeping it there. and that's just the bodybuilding thing - I can't impossibly imagine, what these men must've gone through, not only shedding away fat, but every bit of tissue until they were all skin and bones.
Depends on the person and also the time period. These were all tall-ish man, living in the 1950s. They probably moved a lot, had jobs that made them walk/lift and do other exercises every day for long hours. Today, many people have sitting jobs, and dont exercise at all. A short woman who doesn't move probably has a basic metabolic rate of 1400-1500. These man probably had twice as much.
The most humane US government study in the 50s-70s
😂😂😂
I wouldn't assume they have become any better since.
Having Kinsey's experiments and some others, true...
@@robdixson196They're not running psyop information war campaigns aimed at black Americans.
I know right 😂
As a wrestler that cuts weight five months out of the year the thoughts and feelings they were having is definitely real. The dinner story where they would be mad at people who didn’t eat hit so close.
Calm down Gordon Ryan, don't throw a temper tantrum
@@Justbecause7777It is true
@@Justbecause7777gordon ryan is bjj not wrestling
@@Justbecause7777either way its true, when i cut weight i get pissed at people wasting food
Growing up in a rather poor household. I, too, get a little mad at people *wasting* food, to this day.
One time, i was so thirsty, that when i finally got just a glass of water, the water was delicious and tasty to me.. i think when you deprave yourself from either food or drink, your mind will make it so much more rewarding for you, when you finally get it.. once again, the power of the mind is extraordinary!
Always happened to me in my childhood because our teacher often didn't allow us to drink water. Yup, water indeed tastes delicious after that.
It's the same for obese people! The food tastes dull to them and that's the reason they keep eating more!
Yea when i was a kid i used to play soccer very hard just so when i'd get home i could drink a bottle of cold water and feel that extraordinary satisfaction😂
I starve myself on purpose just so the food taste much better sometimes
@@PotatoFried17yep, that flowing of water down your throat, somehow feels like some delicious food going down, like soul entering your body, yep felt that after long runs and soccers
omg they didn’t get paid that’s INSANE…
Still in the money hamster wheel, eh?
@@kaptainkabul9499uhh what?
It was for the war effort
@@kaptainkabul9499🤡
@@kaptainkabul9499im pretty sure you’d expect some sort of reward back if you were starved like that but based on your judgement on this persons comment I don’t think you can even fathom extreme hunger pains
This breaks my heart knowing there are people who starve in life while I stuff my face not being completely grateful for what I have.
Ikr! This kinda stuff breaks my heart too, so much so that I will even eat again but not for myself - for those starving. Bless them
Unfortunatelly we live in worldwhere ... whenever you or your family is happy it happen because many more people somewhere around the world arent
@@BlackoPl21 So sad 😭.
@@lorierush6561 Unfortunatelly. We dont necessary see pain and misery in daily life bit it happen all the time.
Every new upcoming year our society is tolerating more and more diffrent actions. Im not sure if its even possible to change this course of events. At least not alone
Yeah I should fell bad for every thing bad on earth alone
Those guys who ate when they weren't supposed to had NOT lost the ability to behave rationally. They were doing the most rational thing they could have possibly done.
Anyway, this study shows us one reason that the thinking of anorexics is so crazy.
Another thing that happened in this study was that the men found that healthy looking bodies looked fat to them. It’s the brains coping mechanism with being malnourished, which is why anorexics tend to judge others bodies a lot. It’s not because they are dumb, or wrong, it’s because their brains are literally showing themselves and other people as fatter than they are to psychologically protect them from the distress.
As an anorexic this comment is funny af
@@zeynepkullebi4034I hope you're getting help. I used to be anorexic. If you really try and stay strong I promise you can beat this.
@@zeynepkullebi4034 as a skeleton this entire video was hilar, no cap fr
Exactly. I mean, yeah, he lost the ability to control his actions with reason, as his survival instict took control, but his behaviour was not unrational.
I don’t think I need an experiment to know that
Back in the 40s, humans were a lot less knowledgeable and compassionate towards basic human survival needs.
Nowadays because of this experiment we as humans, can provide proper help to starving people, as well as have the information on what starving does to a person.
The experiment was needed to know the information we know today.
Same, i know what you are
Me either!! 💀
But also, those who didn’t witness such, & were leeched off their empathy or already lacked such, could not reach such a conclusion on their own.
Well at least for the basics or vague picture.
This is called hindsight bias.
I didn’t grow up with a disorder just a mom who didn’t feed me and my brothers. We ate maybe once or twice a week. There’s a feeling indescribable when you find out people get three meals a day. To this day I can easily go a day without eating. I don’t now. I saw people at school complain about the food. I couldn’t get enough of it. I used to watch cartoons and just gaze at the big chicken drums they had.
Damn thats sad but are u good now?
@@darpan2161 oh yea I’m 19 years old eating very good now that I have my own job. The problem is I walk into stores now and don’t know what to get since I didn’t have that choice as a kid. But yea I’m all good now I’m grateful for the hard times I had I wouldn’t be who I am today.
@@PatrickQuarles Sounds like your mom sucks big time. At least it gave you an advantage for survival, so it's not all bad. Do you have any development problems, i.e. ostheoporosis or small stature ? Btw not trying to upset you, my mom sucks too, so I'm just curious.
@@PatrickQuarles Maybe you should go into the store stoned 😄 The munchies will guide you (probably to the snacks isle).
@@PatrickQuarlesthats how i am. Except i just barely eat because i dont like the taste of food. So going to the store is difficult because ill buy like chips and thats it lmao
I’m currently dealing with an disordered eating, no one else knows this and watching this makes me feel comfort that I cannot explain. I throw up after I eat and I skip as many meals I can per day, I measure and weight myself consistently and I avoid food intake as much as I can. But I am slowly but surely trying to stop myself from this habits. When I deprived myself of food, I thought about it almost all the time, I got used to that feeling of hunger that when I did eat, I felt sick. This was only for a week or two of throwing up and skipping meals but I have struggled with body image for years. I am still trying to tell myself it’s okay to eat.
Wishing you all the best in your journey to recovery ❤️
As a person who suffered for over a decade with a severe eating disorder, I hope that you seek help. I have been in recovery for 12 years now and I am a completely different person now (in a good way) who enjoys life, and food, without guilt or obsession or the fear of losing control. Life is so much better on the other side. I would never go back to the days of torture when I was slowly killing myself from this disease. I really hope you can find peace with yourself. I could not have done it without the help from the team at the inpatient treatment facility I went to. It was hell getting thorough treatment and I resented every person there, but I am forver grateful that I overcame my disorder and experience the freedom of recovery today.
"I skip as many meals I can per day" - as a person who doesn't have access to food, reading that line made me so f*cking angry. Wish we could swap places. At the same time, I don't wish hunger onto anyone in the world, and hope that you will recover one day.
I don’t have eating disorder. I can’t relate. But i hope these advices are good…
it really is okay to eat. Every other creatures and species in this life eats. Eating is a natural and normal thing. You don’t have to feel ashamed for that.
Most people do not judge you on the outside. Most wait until you say something. I have a lot of family with addiction problems. Bulimia is an addiction. My babysitter's daughter was bulimic and she lost the only baby she got pregnant with. Her and her husband never had kids and now they are too old. She destroyed that life with her addiction. I see it as no different than if she was doing crack.
as a person who has suffered from prolonged starvation. it is one of the worst experiences fathomable.
this literally describes what it feels like to have an eating disorder, but in an eating disorder you can't just "stop the experiment" cuz if you eat you'll feel so guilty and anxious and worried, it's exhausting.
This made me think of Eugenia cooney tbh how people are always saying she knows what she’s doing and is being like that on purpose. I truly don’t believe she’s in control of her mind at this point imagine this experiment but doing it for over 10 years that’s like how she’s living.
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@@anasdomain9994yea I feel really terrible for her. But also, I still think she knows what she's doing lol. she can profit off of people who fetishize her. Not to mention tons of young girls envying her body, which she posts in revealing clothes often. Recovering from anorexia isn't something that can happen easily, but glamorizing it on the internet so publicly could probably stop whenever she wanted it to. (Honestly blame her mom for it all tho, enabling her and not protecting her from herself. She should've gotten her daughter help sooner. Breaks my heart for Eugenia
I had anorexia and thankfully I did stop. It was the year 2004 and I did MDMA and on the come down I looked in the mirror and saw how skinny I actually was. It was like a filter was lifted and I could see what I actually looked like and that day forth I was no longer anorexic. It was the only time I’ve done MDMA and it might of saved my life.
I just wanna add that I felt no guilt nor anxiety. I was glowing and felt renewed. I’m sure it wouldn’t work for everyone but it was pretty damn amazing.
As a person who suffered with disordered eating I can relate to so many things that reminded me of what I felt when I was at my lowest. I'm so glad I recovered 💌
i'm glad for your recovery
U can be so proud of ur self:)
i try. thanks ! :) @@Fivkmivh222
You deserve to be very proud of yourself! I'm happy for you
I'm so gad you recovered too.
It reminds me during the days my eating disorders were at peak. I would limit myself eating only around 1200 calories a day, no sugar, just greens a small morsels of lean meat + a boiled egg. It reached a point I was so obsessed with food I would have so much conflicting thoughts and I would spend hours daydreaming about food and how to get rid of calories by exercising just to insert a few morsels. It became exhausting, I feel lost and disconnected and what I think all the time is food. During that time I was also doing intermittent fasting, sometimes one meal only in a day. Each minute I would stare at the clock and can’t wait for the time to finally eat my meal since I felt really hungry and deprived. In time, the tolls of hunger hit me and I went on a binge eating a tub of ice cream, 2 large burgers and a box of pizza with 1L of soda. Feeling guilty afterwards, I purged everything out by forcing myself to vomit it. It then went to a cycle of purging and binging until I decided to get help since I know Im really fucking myself not only physically but mentally.
That sounds like a horrible situation. I hope you are doing better now 🙏
This was me too, a few years ago
I’m 5’2” and went from 172 to115lbs in a very sickly way. 900 calories a day, watched sugars/calories. Paced around my house (I was 17-18 at the time) to burn calories. Now I’m 150 and weightlift three times a week
Now it’s protein counting and I’ve gotten over my eating disorder but the struggle continues.
woah. it's interesting how differently people act when having an eating disorder. i have anorexia nervosa and i usually i just drink milk tea or lattes multiple times (as meals i guess?), but sometimes i'd eat solid foods like toast or fruit. abut i never felt that daydreaming of food and going crazy of hunger, instead i'd go crazy whenever i ate more than i feel comfortable with, like for example a whole burger etc, that i'd end up purging it (forcing myself to puke it out). food never gives me a happy feeling, more like regret and feeling pathetic after a meal. most extreme case i ate 3 whole pizza slices and the guilt i felt was so overwhelming that i didn't eat and drink anything other than water for 10 days (starved). i'm doing better now though thankfully :)
@@bingbong6323same... My limit was 300-500 calories a week for nearly a year consistently, and then on n off for the next 6 years but only now at 25 i kinda developed binge eating (i'd eat till i gag/puke in my mouth, and sometimes i even start blacking out if i skipped ONE meal in a day) however if i end up broke or was able to avoid sweet food for quite some time then i can eat normally for a while. But still, it took years for that to happen whereas this experiment only took weeks n not exactly with "starving" amounts of food...
Me too 😢
I had a major ED. I’m talking 93lbs, 12 bmi, less than 6% body fat. The starvation wasn’t the worst part, because of ketosis. It was the healing, just as this study showed. I developed severe anxiety, OCD, and BPD. Had to go to occupational therapy for three years, and am still on medication. While I’m reaching a normal weight now, I still have to deal with the after effects of Anorexia.
Glad to hear that you're on the road to recovery! Sending big hugs and lots of love your way.
Wow
Maybe start by changing your profile picture
My bet is your teeth will be the biggest problem and most expensive
When my eating disorder was at peak, I limited myself just a measly 450 calories a day. I felt exactly like these men did. All I thought about was food, every second of the day. Thats no exaggeration, every moment I was awake, and even in dreams, food consumed all my thoughts, desires, hopes, fears and excitements. It was a nightmarish way to live. I got down to 95 pounds and would lose control like some of these men did and couldn't stop myself from eating, though it stayed mostly anorexia and not a binge eating disorder. It made me lose my sanity as well. One of the few videos on this channel in which I can unfortunately understand the pain.
As a former anorexic it literally makes you psychotic …. I remember bugs crawling on my skin… carving my skin trying to get them out… falling down stairs from being too weak . Waking up in my bile vomit…. It is a horrible disease
As someone who suffers from an ED i can personally tell you that starvation is a type of hell I wouldn’t wish on the most deplorable of society. I am absolutely terrified of the recovery process as I’ve heard the horror stories of re-eating but I hope to be on the road to recovery soon here.
I'm currently recovering and refeeding is difficult af, I need to be eating high volume foods or else I can't feel satisfied. I'm still not gaining weight but I'm more energetic and that's good but 90% of the day I'm eating. :')
@@NeoStefwhat and how often do you eat to do thath?
@@christianmarx3249 3 meals a day, all of them with a lot of protein. The rest is snacks like fruit, gluten free biscuits and nuts. I take supplements and probiotics for my muscles and gut health.
I promise you recovery is worth it
Whats ur sex performance have to do with this?
If you give a starving person 4000 calories, they may actually die in some severe cases of re-feeding syndrome.
I never knew that that’s very interesting
Refeeding is more difficult than just start indulging on food again, it's a slow process but it ensures that you won't die from cardiac arrhythmias
@@anshlalwanilol
A lot survivors of the Holocaust died like this when they were finally given lots of food after they were freed from the concentration camps. Such an awful way to die.
It depends on the amount of salt, fluid and electrolytes they are depleted of.
As a person who has had (and is currently recovering) from a restrictive eating disorder (anorexia nervous), I find this highly unsettlingly relatable. In refeeding, the mere craving if food drives me insane and the constant ravenous sensation devours me. I'm not able to go a couple of days without self harm or feeling so weak that I could bare get out of bed. May god bless everyone suffering from an eating disorder or in famine ❤
Pray about it
Im struggling the same way
As a person with an ED,this really hits close to home. I usually eat under 500calories a day or intermittent fast. The cookbook thing is so true. I bake and cook for my whole family everyday,and i watch them eat the food. I count the amount of calories other people from my class eat everyday and then compare myself (especially my body) to them. I learned the exact amount of calories in each and every single type of food,from fruits,to veggies to sweets and even breads... I went from a girl who was often described as calm and patient to a person who was easily irritated and angry at people. I've lost my period and my teen horniness in the span of 2-3 months i think? I used to do lots of extreme stuff just so that i can burn the extra calories that i may have eaten (or when i see the number on the scale not going down everyday). I once carried a 6kg(15lbs) watermelon after me for 8km(5 miles) in the middle of a summer day so that i could lose weight faster and understand what 6kg means. My taste in food has changed too: i went from a general foodie to an absolute food devourer whenever i'm having an OMAD. I even went at some point to fantasize about getting locked up and beaten so that i could starve and get all skinny and boney. I sometimes look at small kids on the streets and become envious of their legs (i have the fattest fucking thighs ever). I sh and let the blood drain out so that the i can feel lighter. I've even formed a small tic of touching my ribs just to feel the bones protrude through me. i fantasize about being all skin and bones,of no longer having a body;a physical self. I genuinely don''t want to be percieved anymore.
sounds deeply disturbing, please reach out for help.
Please get some help the way you torturing yourself is brutal
What?!!! This is definitely not normal and very worrying and disturbing. Seek help immediately 😭
hope you found help
I would eat i think
I did a month’s worth of this during aircrew survival course, first two weeks in a semi jungle setting, we got food for 3 times a day, starting the second week they gradually put us to a 2 times a day eat schedule, on the 3rd week swamp setting, just once a day and we eat snails (belitong) , and for the fourth week jungle setting, no food, i just drink river water for 7 days whilst making a rower and wove rope from dried tree bark, during the third week all we think was food, our conversation revolves around the restaurants we’d like to go, after the fourth week is done we got a day for isolation training, they left us in a designated area alone and we have to keep lighting the fire using whatever in our surroundings, the day they gave us porridge and magically all our thoughts of food disappear, can’t eat spicy food for three days, but we ate spicy chicken and collectively have diarrhea 😂. 10/10, would never do again 😅.
SERE training? yeah, it sucked 😭
i also stopped eating spicy food for two weeks when i went to a country with non-spicy cuisine. after coming home and eating spicy skewers, i had the worst stomachache of my life 🤣
this comment was so needed and it randomly answered something for me. (the spicy food part) thanks for leaving this comment. You did well on that. creditz
do you mind if I put it on LinkedIn (ill explain)
@@emuejevoke5760 Sure buddy 👍🏼.
I was a starved orphan in 90s Romania and even as an adult I’m protective of my food, and take a bunch at a time. It’s not active, my mom pointed it out over the years. I eventually got adopted, but for the first mb 5-10 years, in elementary school, I’d still eat out of trash n off the floor. Hell the other kids threw stuff on the floor to watch me eat it. I realized that part as I got older. Of course it stays with you. If I didn’t get adopted I would’ve died I was that bad off. To this day I fucking hate when people waste food or eat a ridiculous amount. When I first came to America, I loved watching Julia Child’s cooking show. Mb that’s why? I used to steal food too. When I got adopted I never stopped eating, mom asked my dr and he said keep feeding her, she is catching up.
I hope you're doing well and have a better life now. Western kids are cruel by their very nature. Don't let that get to you. I hope you have a great life. ❤
@@cincin4515least USA hating non American luhmao
Ceausescu's horde of tigani reproducing uncontrollably - the result of terrible natality incentives Sorry you had to go through it. .
I still have a temptation to go into trash cans for food when i get hungry
Weirdos
I've had eating disorders; anorexia, bulimia, binge eating. But NOTHING compared to when I was violently ill while pregnant. I didn't eat anything for 7 weeks and I couldn't keep water down either. I was so malnourished and loosing my mind I dreamt of my Greek family shoving food down my throat, and I would eat green grapes and watermelon they were the best to throw up. I was the worst. I can't imagine going 6 months without any food 😢
I had an abortion and I'm still feeling shitty as fuck like 5 years later
I am so sorry to hear all of this. The feeling of being starving but not able to even hold down a Sip of Gatorade is so.. idk how to describe it other than feeling on the brink of death.
I once had an awful case of the flu that felt a lot like this. I could barely handle 5 days of it, let alone 7 weeks, you're very strong.
Im so sorry for your loss, I hope things get better for you.
I had hyperemesis gravidarium during pregnancy. It was hell. I know of a few women who’s organs started shutting down because they couldn’t keep food down.
@@jupiterwillow9618 I’m sorry I was in California… The MMJ community definitely helped with those symptoms during the first trimester… There’s an extract in honey that’s used in the Jamaican islands and a whole medical study that was done on it. I pray the best for you
this just shows how grateful we should be when it comes to food
I have anorexia. I've gone through periods of loosing and gaining weight for years now. I've gone days without eating, I've given myself severe vitamin deficiencies. My body is ruined and will never be the same.
Binging can last from one episode to months. I've had times I've binged until the scale was 10-20lbs heavier than I was in the morning. Putting on 22lbs within 3 weeks kinda bullshit. You cant control yourself during a binge, I would fight anyone who tried to stop me from clearing the pantry.
I didnt choose to have this, anorexia is a result of you trying to cope with trauma by gaining control over food.
i used to severely restrict my eating and always thought about food - in the morning, trying to convince myself to not eat; in the afternoon, about whether i should have my single meal of the day (usually like a bowl of cereal, oatmeal, or just an egg or banana); and at night, what i would do the next day and when i would eat. still recovering from this mindset and i still think obsessively about food and tbh i miss when i didn't think so much about what i was eating
I hate that I'm thinking of food so much while trying not to eat so much of it. Most annoying contradiction
I'm on a bit of a fast but worst part is stress that actually makes me more hungry. As I can admit is a bit of a comfort after stress. When that happens I just have something to eat and that's me for the day.
The way your brain and body will do so much to get you to eat is so fascinating. I had an ED for years. I ate entire loaves of bread on multiple occasions. I’d eat pounds of food. My stomach would hurt so much, yet I couldn’t stop eating. It only got better by eating a normal amount of food for a couple of years.
I also said strange things sometimes, like I couldn’t think clearly. I had a panic attack because of it, I got in front of a class once and couldn’t think of a single thing I needed to say. My mind was totally blank yet overwhelmed at the same time. It was scary.
If you have an ED, trust me, it gets better. Recovery is worth it.💗
Bruh I thought of erectile dysfunction first
So i think i’m going through something similar…
i starved myself for exactly eight months and was diagnosed w an for it
but now ever since halloween of last year i have been bingeing none stop eating so much breads and sweets even stuff that isn’t even yummy to me i eat
i try so hard to starve again but fail within a few days after starving and binge eat again
i went from a drastic 70 pounds to 135 pounds within 9 months
i’ve tried getting help but i’m afraid that it can take years or just a long time to recover from an ed from what your saying….. plus i am in high school
As someone who has competed in a couple of bodybuilding shows, I absolutely agree with the information on the refeeding process. When I am prepping for a show, my caloric intake drops tremendously over time as I get closer to the day I step on the stage. In fact truth is, the day before the show I eat the least amount of food I will ever eat, literally sitting at roughly 1240 calories. The few days after the competition I undergo a refeeding process, which is some of the hardest things to do. My body got so used to not eating, that eating decent amounts of meals becomes almost impossible. Literally eating like a big Buffet meal after a competition is highly not recommended.
I hate how people treat the homeless , theyre often told that they dont deserve anything because of the choices they make but go as long as then without food or shelter and tell me you’re still a rational thinking person i bet you cant
A lot of them are frauds
After knowing I can't do certain things. I can sympathize with some of them. As it is hard unless you go to gym or train. Some of these things aren't easy.
❤ your comment..You are a beautiful soul!!!!
Well not all homeless people have the same personalities, same with non-homeless people.
Some are twats and rude, some are nice. Out of those options who would you rather help? Does rational thinking constitute being a crappy person or a decent one?
When I was basic training for the Marine Corps i noticed some of these symptoms, albeit on a much milder level then the subjects in the study. Being naturally very skinny I had never cared much for fatty meats such as bacon or ribeye steak and if I would eat something like bacon it was always crispy and I would wipe off the grease. But around a month in basic I started craving things like I never had before, the fat and grease from bacon especially and I found myself dreaming about going to chow and getting served fatty bacon. I also craved foods like candy and cakes and ice cream and when we finally got liberty after the crucible I gorged myself on a whole pizza and two energy drinks and a nauseating amount of candy😂. I felt so sick but overwhelming content and once I got out of boot camp I gorged myself on any and all food(even foods that I had never liked before) for about two months and gained around 20ibs. As an American who never had to worry about starving I can’t imagine having to starve for such a long period of time and really makes you think about people that starve against their will during times of war or famine.
The participants were very selfless and brave. They chose to do this for others despite the war being a hard time for them as well. I could never throw myself into such a kind of suffering. Too bad they didn't receive the proper treatment from the government. Their physical and mental health were scarred for life.
They were conscientious objecters. That was the equivalent to a coward back then. They probably felt they didn't have a choice considering they wouldn't help any other way.
I don't have a speck of sympathy for them, even less from knowing the details of the front line troops. And even FAR worse was the treatment of Allied prisoners by the Japanese. No.. these "conscientious objectors" are cowards and their so-called "ordeal" was NOTHING compared to what the real heroes and non-cowards had to endure. Minus 100 below zero sympathy for them.
@@daneaxe6465 So, what? Some small percentage of dudes didn't want to die for their country just so others could survive. Not a bad trade IMO, I'd rather stick it out with my family at this point in life, especially with the way the government is now.
@@daneaxe6465 You try starving and stop taking your privilege for granted.
A. You'll likely die for some reason or another because you did try.
B. You'll likely pussy out on day four because you're more talk than action and you think it's cowardly to starve yourself, when in reality, it's cowardly to have fed yourself through immoral means, such as theft. Do not call it cowardly when 'observers' still experienced what's tantamount to a LOT of people's entire lives, including childhood, where kids never even made it to teens, let alone adulthood. You still being alive is not a blessing, it's not a right, it's simply your circumstances stacked against stronger people, who would do your entire life twice as well and twice as intellectually, having endured what you cannot.
C. You definitely didn't starve, nearly die, nor were you chained in some basement to become a mere progeny for bastard children. You had a good life in relation to so many others. No, it's not cowardly what these people did... it's taken for granted, but it's not cowardly. They demonstrated and nobody learned. People still struggle and the experiment ultimately advanced a small part of science that goes untouched.
You were spanked? That's cute. You have nine hours of sleep... and they get three. Only.
this is so sad they preyed on altruism and caring about other ppl and wanting to help them and literally weren’t even compensated for their struggles. some of these people may have irreparable permanent brain damage from all that deficiency. it’s sad how so many after discovering how bad it got fell into the sunken cost fallacy even after all that. my heart weeps for all brave and compassionate souls who decided to involve themselves for the betterment of others.
This is such a serious matter but ngl I learned what altruist means from the last song in Hazbin 💀
well hey they were basically traitors because they opposed the war duh!
Compensated by not going to war, seems fair to me
God is great god is good thank you for creating the human that learned to season food
Oh shut up, nothing is altruistic about them. They were literally dodging an actual altruistic act. Dont pretend they are victims
As someone who has been semi starving my entire life to the benefit of nobody I can honestly say I would participate in a study like this if it would help people
Same
unfortunately they need people who are quote unquote normal at baseline
We, psychological outliers, don't provide an accurate approximation of what happens to a "normal" person.
Some of us maintain semi-starvation for a decade or more. Many would have been throwing rocks at sparrows by that point; our "adaptation" is valuable for study but your mental health comes first.
In the '40s the Forces routinely destroyed their servicemen and disposed of em, we still do it today.
Why are you starving ?
I’m sad to say that you probably couldn’t enter a study like that because it could be you just have a low metabolism or some other physical of mental issue and they are studying what happens when they have people that are involuntarily starving thus having a voluntary participant wouldn’t give them the results needed if that makes sense??
you either are biologically capable of eating less or you have a mental condition that makes you eat less, they need people who are Statistically normal everyday. People with no mental or physical problems as a baseline experiment. Control
Cannibalism becomes more acceptable to people starving because the body starts to shut down not only organs, but also the part of the brain that generates rational thought
He got soo hungry
He ate his fingers 💀
In China, the government forced many farmers to work on factories to expedite the process of becoming a power house of production. All in the name of growth to become something other than a third world country.
Unfortunately the country suffered from millions of deaths due to a lack of food production. It became common for families to sell their children for food, or to even cannibalized their loved ones.
Those in power concluded that the country doesn’t need that many people to succeed anyways. So they did little to change the system.
I'm at the end of a 14 day fast (no food, just water). I do think constantly about food, and i can confirm that while my mood is even, its like theres no more joy...i dont laugh at the usual things i would..and things just seem so much more tedious than before. Though,i am able to be with people and chat with them while they eat. I dont get angry at them for leaving food behind or anything like that, afterall, in my case, i am the one that choose to do this to myself and I can eat whenever I want. It sucks that there's people that don't have a choice to eat whenever they want and the proper amount.
As someone with an ed i know that food changes the way you see life i feel so disconnected and moody i cant imagine how bad it must be for poor starving people 😟
Surprised to see a guy with as much talent as you getting such low recognition. Haven't watched the video yet, but I just wanted to say that your videos in general cover very interesting topics and you have a great narrator voice! Keep up the good work, man!
Thank you ♥️ that means a lot!
@@TheEniqma You're welcome
There are so many great content creators it’s a very saturated industry
@@jjoedirtt That is the absolute truth.
Regarding your video's question towards the end: I actually starved myself in high school for over 2-5 years. It was an eating disorder I created to cope from a real unsafe family situation. It absolutely made me weird so I needed to compensate using only parts of a normal personality to function during my self-taught rehabilitation phase. It made my ability to analyze people, situations, find weak points even, and future predict extremely developed but other aspects about me are underdeveloped to this day. (Oddly enough, I'm a professional responsible for people atm) But, I still have rather prolonged contortions of agony when I'm not on the clock.
I had my jaw wired shut for 6 weeks from a broken jaw. I was starving, lost 50 lbs. I remember watching my family eat and I felt like a dog just wanting that food so bad 😂 I dreamt about food and thought about it a lot. Starvation is terrible.
That must have been awful... I am sorry you went through that experience
@@angelika77st Thanks 🙏🏻 but in the end it was only a short time and I’m blessed that I can eat normal once again.
I have exiting news for you Eniqma! I skipped the ad read.
I had ED that led me to periods when i starved myself just to know if i can handle it. One of these episodes i decided to eat nothing for approximately a week, only allowing myself to drink one sweet coffee a day and of course water.
I knew i should stop this when i went to drink water and couldn't stop, all i was thinking about was water cure torture, i thought if i felt pain because of how much water is inside of me i wouldn't feel hunger anymore
Ended up wiping the floors because i accidentally threw up all that water while walking
Crazy how erectile dysfunction does that
@@jakass huh? I don't have a dick
If you hadn't vomited, you'd probably shit it out within the hour. I once worked a long hot day without drinking much of anything. Came home absolutely parched and drank about 2/3 of a gallon of water in just a couple minutes. Felt nauseous but did not vomit. However, about 40 minutes later I suddenly felt like I was going to crap my pants, made it to the toilet, and promptly evacuated about 2/3 gallon of faintly shit tinted water.
Sometimes I want to do this ,is this an ED ?
Be careful. Some people have died drinking too much water. I Don’t know the whole story.
I have chronic pancreatitis. I couldn’t eat anything for a long while. After close to a month I could have a spoonful of plain yogurt. I dreamt about whoppers and other food. It was intense. I think I needed the Percocet at the time more for the hunger pains than the pancreatitis.
Oh I should mention. I had a ritz cracker when I could finally start eating food again, just tiny amounts. The ritz was the first solid thing I’d eaten in a long while. It was the saltiest, butteriest, best thing I’d ever had. It was so flavorful I could’ve sworn it was given to me by God himself.
@@joshuawesteros5345Wow dude.. This is absolutely nuts. Hopefully you feel better and I'm sorry you had to go through that. 💜
Thabks bud, I appreciate it. I’ll always have pancreas problems and be a diabetic due to it but it could be worse. I’m thankful to be alive after it happened. 👍
Praying for your full recovery, I'm so glad to hear your situation improved ❤️❤️❤️
@@joshuawesteros5345 That's actually a good way to listen to our body what it needs. It can tell us through taste. It is naturally expressed by what we are in the mood for and what we cannot stand anymore after having had it for too long, since diversification lowers risk of deficiencies.
As for your various ailments, the channel "Dr. Eric Berg DC" has tons of helpful healthy diet info you can browse for whatever topic you like and while it might not be the ultimate truth, it can help understand how to empower the body to become the most healthy. Maybe you can even transfer the tips to your special situation.
Sometimes not eating, whether coerced or out of lack of appetite, can actually be helpful for boosting healing, provided that the body has all the necessary micronutrients.
During the worst and longest depressive episode in my life (which is still kinda ongoing but I’ve taken some baby steps forward) I could not eat. I was starving because I just couldn’t stomach any food. I survived on a couple bites of whatever non filling foods every day, literally only a couple bites a day.
The thing is that after some time, when I had been starving for a while, food consumed my every thought. I wanted to eat so bad, I fantasized binging the most yummy foods. The problem was that my body wouldn’t let me. Every single bite I took resulted in the despair intensifying greatly, I even had to be careful with drinking water since too much would also send me spiraling down really fast, no matter how thirsty or hungry I was.
And now, even though I’m eating somewhat normally, I still have some leftover effects of the starvation. Whenever I eat too late, instead of kind of accumulating over some time, the signs of starvation appear almost immediately.
I learned to be thankful for my appetite and ability to eat. If I want to eat something then I eat it, because I can. I want everyone to realize how amazing it is not to have to worry about appetite and food and such.
Enjoy your meals, happy eating😊
Wishing you nothing but recovery and positive vibes 🖤
Tysm🥰
It was a similar story for me for some reason since childhood I didn't eat as much as I should've. I ate 3 meals s day and looks of snacks etc growing up, but I was always so thin I had a starving belly like the starving kids in Africa had, but not as big. As a child to 17, I ate 3 meals on time going to school. I don't start eating late meals or even skipping meals once or twice until college nd I was warned.
But I was always skinny with a starving belly fat before I started eating late meals. I heard I was so skinny because my dad was a heavy smoker, who heartbreakingly passed away 5 years ago.
But it never explained me being so skinny to the point of belly fat before I started eating late meals, I continued eating meals late in my early 20s and now mid 30s. I started eating meals on time in my mid 20s but the belly fat more thinness never went v away. I also ate lots of snacks.
Now I try to eat my meals on time but I slipped again during work, where i move around a lot. I'm 5' and 80lb. I have been since Fishkill. I have less access to snacks, but I'm trying to intake more calories and nutrient v rich foods like nuts, fruits, bananas. I'm going to find a lot of snacks too.
This vid explains why I liked cooking stuff a lot, nd thought I'd like being an Event specialist. I was obsessed with food. But I'd still only binge on cookies after watching cooking stuff or writing as an Event Specialist for 5 hours.
For a serious subject when the drum beat hit at 1:00 minute I chuckled a little
As a scientist, I can safely say that these results were absolutely insignificant compared to the conditions those men endured.
Yeah that’s maybe the saddest part: the brochures made these grand moral pronouncements. But all that happened was, a bunch of very conscientious people were crushed for the ‘insight’ that starvation is debilitating , which science knew already
I was born to poverty and difficulty. Not much has changed really. Starvation was ever prevalent and its effects are terrible on both mind and body. The perpetuate splitting headaches, the depression, the rage. Every single day. My joints screamed, I was fatigued and starved for sleep.
I felt different from all those around me. I was different. They could laugh, they could play. They could leave uneaten food on their pig ridden plates. I still feel rage when I see uneaten food. I have nothing and appreciate everything. Others take everything for granted. Almost like seeing a garage filled with junk and the car sits outside. Imbeciles.
The effects of starvation have likely ruined me. I have no interest in dating. Only working, making money, snowboarding, and cooking. I have a cabinet full of cook books from video game universes like Skyrim to fallout. My parties are making elaborate dinners from video game universes and serving them to guests.
I will finish by saying I once went 3 days without food. My first meal that time was an apple. I ate it, core, seeds and all.
Reading this, my heart aches for you. I am so glad you now enjoy your hobbies and sharing good food to eat with others. ❤️😿
If you can afford Skyrim you can afford to nourish yourself back to health and happiness now
If you can find a healthy balance, that would be ideal. Brief fasting phases can be very beneficial to health, so if you can remember that, maybe that eases on the urge a bit.
Several times in recent years I fasted for 4-5 days while doing performance sports daily and felt great and not hungry. It cleaned any messed up baggage from the body, like misformed proteins and all that. Memory improved noticeably.
Currently after a phase of eating more than I probably needed, I naturally went into a phase of interval fasting where I eat (as always) not before hunger occurs and then in a 3-5 hours window and that's it for the day. That leaves the body with the maximum daily time of not having to digest food but go into elevated self-repair.
Remember that fear traumas rule and dominate our life until we find purpose in life through defying them by gently finding back to a serene balance. We send what we are into the world, so when we heal ourselves, we also heal the world. And lately it has become particularly obvious how much humankind needs healing from fear traumas.
Wow! Never knew about this! What heroes!!
I’m from Holland and was raised on stories from my dad and others telling me about the Hunger Winter. People starving all around once the Germans left/were kicked out. People eating flower bulbs just to get some nutrition. And then, once airdrops of canned food started, people literally eating till their stomachs burst.
I still can’t leave any food uneaten on my plate.
Heroes???????? Just the opposite. The heroes did their duty and did not hide behind some religion to cover for their cowardice. The heroes are buried in cemeteries in Holland, France, Belgium and Pacific islands and in the depths of the oceans. The heroes were in hospitals suffering from horrific pain from wounds, many loosing limbs and those who didn't die from gangrene lived with psychological scars the rest of their lives.
No, these cowards camped out in comfortable safe Minneapolis, not dodging bullets, stepping on landmines, being torn to unrecognizable pieces by artillery or tanks. Do NOT use the word HERO to describe such pathetic men, they are the opposite of heroes.
This reminds me of stories from my oma, who was a dutch child in an Indonesian camp run by the japanese. She was also starved, and when they finally could return to the Netherlands after the war they found out everyone else was starving too.
It also makes me think of the newer information we have now about people who experience famines having children who can better survive famines, and therefore become diabetic from the modern lifestyle. Diabetes is rife in my family.
Dude your style of narration is amazing, love the topics
Thank you! ♥️
i think this experiment also really helps in understanding some elements of disordered eating
And to think I can barely last two days without giving in makes me realise their struggle is far worse than I imagined
Damn, these guys deserve a medal, I run out of energy and become extremely grumpy if i get hungry.
They deserve to have "COWARD" tattooed on their faces. The women who volunteered for service are FAR more deserving of recognition than a bunch of cowards using religion to weasel out of service. While millions suffered FAR worse food and conditions these clowns got to ride out in comfort in Minneapolis. Stow the medal BS...please...its nauseating.
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back then people where hard af
Dang man that is crazy. Starvation is a universal feeling and pain, its messed up they didn't get paid for the expirement.
Volunteers don't usually get paid.
@@possummagic3571well they could have made an exception
they starved that they might eat.
Now imagine that most people in North Korea are starving and barely earning money to keep their life together.
And ironically less than in America, think about that for a minute 🙃
@@smileyp4535 Ok ig. Just wanted to say that i am nor American if it changes anything in your vision. (Does not mean that i don't care about it)
@@mateuszkolodziej5787 all that matters, and I think we both agree, is that we have more than enough food produced to feed the world so no one should starve, wherever they live/are born/are from
@@smileyp4535 Sadly the world does not work like that and even if we had 3x more food than needed. Some people still would not get it. But i respect the optimism
@@mateuszkolodziej5787 we make enough to feed 10bil we could easily do it, we just choose not to
I remember when i deprived my eating in order to lose weight. I lost like 20kgs and it was also the results of heavy workouts because it was my primary goal at that moment. I remember eating even a chocolate was a huge guilt for me. Now a year after i work in stressful job and my sleep patterns are broke down, and i gained back 12kg however i eat whatever i want ofcourse without exaggerating it and i can tell that, eating whatever you like is one of the most undervalued things in the life.
14:04 Average US government moment
I've done this before just to save money, it didn't drive me over the edge but I could definitely see the edge. I haven't been that hard up for cash for about 10 years now but when I'd finally had enough of it after almost a year I only weighed 125 lbs. My healthy weight is 150 to 160, I think these guys went harder though. I wouldn't do it again, I think I'm perma-phuked now because a lot of phantom nerve pain and stomach issues are still cropping up even though I eat well and stay in shape. Oh well, I bought a house with that hustle so it was a fair enough trade.
Give me the sauce I'm willing to make that trade
you know its not good when pain and starvation is worth the money to get a house
@@jabriellee7573😂
@@drintrovert4564 its definitely good. it isn't good when you starve in a hole.
Straving is not a hustle lol
Hey! The video was great (as always) and I really appreciate you speaking about this subject, as it's extremely interesting.
Moreover, I unfortunately have my own experience with starvation as I was diagnosed with anorexia 2 years ago and I can surerly say that not only the starvation but the refeeding faze as well as just horrible, but I still cannot imagine what these men went through just for the sake of an experiment.
An experiment is good in that you remove a lot of noise and assumptions. We know starvation is bad but not always what it will do to those affected. Still, I think a part of this experiment was overlooked- I think being voluntarily subjected is different than being held hostage. A whole new element is introduced when the will of the patient changes.
Starvation reveals our primal animalistic nature beneath civility's mask.
Anybody who has struggled with an eating disorder related to these symptoms on a personal level. I can’t believe I ever put myself through this willingly - there is so much more to live for.
The most vivid hallucinations I ever experienced where from my eating disorder. It literally got to where I was blurring reality with things that where not happening. The mind is quite scary
As someone who went through some bad disordered eating habits throughout my late junior high to early high school years, these study results hit differently. Obsessing over food is no joke; every thought I had that didn't pertain to school simply revolved around food and how I could be in control of not only it, but myself too. Watching other people eat their food, looking up recipes online, waiting for specific times to eat just a tiny portion of food and even installing coloring apps on my phone just to color pictures of food took up a lot of my time. My personality changed so much too; it only took something small to make my temper rocket out of control. People picking apart my eating habits ESPECIALLY made me snappy and furious. I'm so thankful that time of my life is done and through now, but I'll never forget it or the effects it left on my mentality and body.
It's absolutely terrifying to see what starvation does to a person and it makes me so sad to think that there are still many people out there who go through even a fraction of this horror. The Minnesota Starvation experiment taught us many important lessons about us and our bodies, and what these men went through was absolutely horrifying
I once went about two days barely eating with a lot of activity. During the end I noticed that my sense of smell intensified like 10 times out of nowhere .It was trippy. I was about a mile away from a chinese restaurant and I could just smell their fryer that far away.
I know what you mean. I’m struggling with an eating disorder. I try to get better and never go longer than 3 days without eating. Still my sense of smell is incredible.
I would get “smell hallucinations” of the food I was thinking about during my ed
When I was younger, I used to live with my alcoholic father who never really cared about us. As a result, I would always feel hungry and to this day, I tend to steal food and eat excessively, fearing that I might not have another chance to eat. Although it's not rational, I still have this urge to binge eat because I feel like I need to hoard food for later. Even though I know that food won't disappear, I am always in a state of anxiety and fear when it comes to food.
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This reminds me of my childhood.
My family was penniless.
So my little siblings and I would go dumpster diving in front of our classmates. All for us to snatch some leftover food from the cafeteria. Knowing the scraps would help not only us, but the rest of the fam back _'home'._
On top of that, my dad would get absolutely furious whenever we didn't finish our meals. Didn't matter if we were kids.
The reason for that is because he himself went through starvation as an adult. He was able to survive back then by stealing a few bites of food here and there.
And then came my turn.
I was kidnapped by my _'mother'_ as a tween. We ended up homeless. Couch surfing.
So it didn't cross my mind to start dating anyone during or after the incident. Survival was more important. An I knew falling for someone at that stage would be dangerous with how my mental state was. I wouldn't have made any rational decisions.
But I guess now things are slightly better. My dad still has the bad habit in overfeeding us though.
I still remember back when i was around 14/15 i could go two weeks on single toast with a bit of meat, a slice of tomato and a bit of mozzarella. Its not because i was anorexic or anything like this. I was just hella suicidal, to the point that i stoped feeling hunger (i know that sounds wrong, but like for real, i would eat single toast, and for next two weeks i could not feel hunger. I was eating when i was feeling hungry and not based om some schedule.). My sleep schedule was also quite fucked then, i could go with about 14 hours sleep per week, at some point i started to wonder "how im still alive? I dont eat, i dont sleep, i just drink water.". To be honest i dont think i could be able to do it nowdays, nowdays the longest i can go on a single toast is about two days, and when it comes to sleep i need at least 4 hours, not 2 hours like i did back in the day. (But then back in the day i got 2 hours sleep per day, but not all at once, i had a polyphasic sleep schedule, meaning i didint sleep 2h at once, but something like 30 minutes 4 times per day. Polyphasic sleep is also knows as davincis naps.)
I also would like to mention that at that time i had so little "active time" as possible, i just walked to the bus, from bus to school, then from school to bus and then from bus home. I had headphones with music on like 20h per day, and i was "in my head" all the time. To be honest, now when i look back at that time, even tho that mentally that was one of the lowest points in my life, i would love to go back to that time. If i could relive that time with my current knowledge, i would still do it the same way.
And before anyone asks, 185cm and about 55-65kg. Now days i walk about 15k steps per day (sometimes more), and i try to exercise daily. Still i dont eat on a schedule, rather on the feeling of hunger, sometimes it can occur once per day and other times multiple times per day. I dont have any health problems because of it, but i still wouldnt recommend it to any one (im no nutritionist, nor i have any deeper knowledge regarding that topic, i just know what works good for me.)
My god...
@@b1tenare u okay mate
I know it's fucked up but I kinda wish I was you
(ED trigger warning for anyone who cares to read) This is eerily similar to my experience with anorexia nervosa in the past. Monotonous meals become easier to enjoy and food is all your mind can think of. The part about the men binge eating, or “cheating”, is very common and hard to deal with especially in recovery period.
To think these willing participants were given two meals a day to eat and experienced such psychological horrors is terrifying, as I consumed a lot less. I can’t imagine what damage that’s done to my body over time
I hope and pray that you will have a good recovery.
@@lorierush6561 thank you, you’re an incredibly kind soul 💖
@@col5186 Thank you. I mean what I said. I have been broke . Hardly any money for food. That's the past. I still remember how I was acting.
I've been practicing intermittent fasting for a few years now, using it as a way to challenge myself mentally and manage my weight. I've tried week-long water fasts (only water, no other food) and gone through months of daily 24-hour fasts (just one meal a day), creating a calorie deficit of around 1000 calories per day. I can totally relate to what's being discussed here - the constant thoughts about food that never seem to fade away. It's like your mind is always fixated on your next meal, and it can even lead to doubting yourself and coming up with excuses to give up, the amount of suffering these men went through cannot be undertated.
watching this as someone who's dealt with anorexia and has known lots of other people dealing with it, this is exactly the same as how we experience it. Only difference being is we were mentally ill to begin with and (usually) didn't have someone keeping us "on track". Most of us didn't realize what we were doing until we got past a significant period of time, too (like i'm talking 6+ months of rationalizing it and not realizing what we're doing is bad, since most eating disorders arent solely motivated by appearance or weight loss. It can be an attempt to self soothe or find control after a traumatic event.) But all the behavior talked about here is exactly the same as what I've seen in myself or people i've known. The timeline fits, too. It can take months before we feel the consequences of what we're doing, and food becomes the only thing on our minds and turns into an obsession. I myself would bake and cook a lot, collecting recipes, but end up giving it away. similar to the man in the video.
The mental problems caused by starvation are part of what make eating disorder recovery so difficult. By the time the patient is at a low weight, not only are they suffering from the eating disorder but also mental disturbance from being so thin. They don't have the mental strength to get better alone, and they don't believe that eating will make them feel better. It's really a touch situation. Then refeeding syndrome starts and causes all sorts of problems
All those dudes realize and empathize with eachothers loss of muscle and weakness. That's so sad. They literally gave everything.
As an ex pre professional ballet dancer in training, with anorexia. I had gone through that, I am currently still coming back to my senses. My hunger levels are slowly decreasing, and I no longer restrict my calories. I try eating as healthy as possible though.
"You're not you when you're hungry" 💀
literally.
Its kinda sad that as you described more and more of the experiment it dawned on me how horrible my ED has been in the past because only having two meals a day is far more than what i would actually eat when it got bad. Plus you basically just described the basic food groups that I ate as well.
I emphathized when they had meals while more starved some chose to eat it quickly instead of savoring it, although my own reason was most likely different than their own.
The mindset you can get into having an ED/Starvation, can warp your brain rapidly and it will make you feel exhausted trying to do things you love or to just get out of bed. Plus the menegerie of other unpleasent side effects that isn't talked about as much as they should be.
Its great that the experiment helped in the long run, but I cant help but think of the life long effects of the men who did this. Especially with the psychological field back then. I can attest that i have my own lifelong struggles that have arisen from over 10+ years of a disorder that destroyed 14 of my teeth that this isn't something that just goes away with time. I hope these guys found peace in themselves and it didn't horrificly mess with their lives.
I water-fast for 10 days straight every 3 months, and never had any of the symptoms mentioned here. In fact I feel so much better after the 3rd day, your "need" for food dies out as your digestive system shuts down and goes in a survival/maintenance mode.
TF YOU'RE SO UNDERRATED! THE NARRATION AND EDITING IS UPTO THE MARK
Funnily enough, I'm watching this to distract myself from eating. Lol.
Sooo underrated channel keep up the great work ...
The cookbook part was crazy true. Whenever I relapse I become obsessed with them or similar cooking how to content on UA-cam
I put myself through a water diet for a month (made it to 2 and a half weeks) day 3 was a brutal hurdle because my brain was only focusing on where I could find food and I grew immensely irritable because food was there but I was willingly not eating. After week one I noticed some improvement and it was actually really easy to get through the days without thinking about food. Start of week 2 I started to notice I could smell everyone’s food and that started to mess with me a bit I won’t lie. Still things were easy and I could still keep going. What got me was that Wednesday of week 3………we had a company celebration for a good month (ironic as we went bankrupt a few months later) but the delivery was late and I remember smelling the food from the place we catered and I could feel myself slipping. What got me was going to the break room to fill my water jug and seeing the spread and HR handing me a loaded plate. I ate but quickly realized as good as it tasted eating again felt weird. I was actually supposed to ease my way back into eating with fruit but instead I had a full meal. A couple weeks of eating I almost convinced myself to stop because I didn’t like the way eating felt. But I pushed those thoughts back and kept going because I didn’t want to end up with an eating disorder or something like that. It was interesting to go through though for sure. I’d probably do it again but at least this time I would be better prepared and understand a bit more.
Are you sure that isn't already an ED??
@@Ichigo29ify nope because he could control it and it didn't continue. He did it willingly
I went thru 510 days of starvation. Eating rice and drinking tea. I would usually only eat one meal per day in the evening, I had to learn how to sprout lentils and mung beans so i could have fresh greens. It was terrible. But i made it thru and am doing well now!!!
oh bro what the fuck your underrated as hell, i was expecting you had idk a mil subs and 100k likes min on this video. just the vibe i get from the quality, editing and overall content you produce its amazing im sure your gonna skyrocket soon just keep making videos bro you got this, remember me maybe when you get idk 1m or 2m subs :)
Thank you, much love ❤ and I will!
@@TheEniqma you better lmao, ty for replying didnt espect that
I agree!
@@TheEniqmaBest of luck to you man
Thank you so much for the support! You guys are the best! ♥️
I went psychotic after starving for months, lost all feelings. After awhile i lost all thoughts and urge to eat. My mental state mostly recoverd. Getting back the feeling back to eat or stomach food was the longest and intense effort.
I dont mind eating and drinking now but i have to remind myself most times.
It permanently messes with you. Regardless of unintentionally or not
My stomach is paralyzed. I cannot eat food or drink most liquids without medication. It took a year for me to learn how to consume calories without throwing up. I was overweight when i got sick. I lost over 100 pounds. It was a hellish nightmare. Being in starvation mode for that has permanently scarred me and something im still working through in therapy.
I am glad i lost that weight, but not like that. I wouldn't wish that on my worst enemy
The fact that I related to few of their mental symptoms, has got me disturbed
As a recovering anorexic, I can confirm that there's a certain point of malnutrition where you just start having full-blown psychotic breaks. For me, it's always been casual, mundane interactions - physical proximity, long conversations, trading quips + humour, etc. - with _hallucinations_ of ppl I'm close to, during times when I would later learn they'd been _verifiably_ present somewhere else. And even though those particular episodes had been non-threatening - _even dull_ - the dawning comprehension that I was losing the ability to distinguish between reality + illusion would always make my blood run cold.
That chilling horror that I was quantifiably losing my mind has usually been a major mental turning point for me to acknowledge I've needed to start trying to get better, again.
(If anyone has any questions about the intricacies of experiencing starvation that aren't answered in the vid, I'm happy to answer.)
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Also great video.
This is not even the most damaging research by Ansel Keys, what he did with saturated fats continues to damage milliards of people till this day.
I was on semi-starvation my whole life and I didn't know that.
I really hate the feeling of starvation. Because I will always choose drugs before food, because the withdrawal is so horrible, i'll starve to the point that I just start vomiting and after a while can't eat anything and have to slowly just force myself to eat something little by little. But still I'm overweight since I only starve for half of each month and half the time I'm eating alot of bacon, chips etc. But because of all this, I have no energy for anything, even when i'm eating, just getting up from the sofa is almost too hard, it feels like sprinting for a kilometer.
Please get the help you need. Prayers for your recovery.
I once did a 500 kcal per day diet for 4 weeks while working in a bakery. I dont know what drove me to do that, it was utterly insane, i lost 17 kilos in 4 weeks before collapsing, mind you i didn't have a car license yet so i drove the 16 km to work on a bicycle.
:( im srry. I used to eat 300-700 cal a day during hs and the beginning of college to lose weight. I always would gain it back bc i would binge later
eating 500,000 calories per day is insane, that's enough food for most of the year. Don't know how you survived that without exploding or something
@@Anthracite_coal might wanna check on that , one cooked egg has 56-90 kcal depending on size (source google). so if you can live almost a year on 5-7 cooked eggs, you probably could solve world hunger my dude :)
@@kdraw7178 ah I was just making fun of kilocalories, a 90 kcal egg would have some kind of quantum efficiency magic shit going on there. Imagine the sheer density of that egg, 90,000 cal there.
This reminds me of one of the most ironic historical twists I have ever heard of (and one not widely known).
I'm sure you have all heard of the Donner Party (if so, skip this paragraph) they were American pioneers (led by the Donner family and consisting of about a dozen families, 87 in total, half children) who migrated west to California from the Midwest. After leaving late for their journey, they took a less traveled shortcut that was actually a longer route and ended up snowbound in the extremely harsh winter of 1846-1847, in the Sierra Nevada mountain range. They were stranded for five months in heIIish, abominable conditions (one of the coldest winters on record, w/ an 18 ft. peak snowfall!) When their food ran out, survival kicked in and a pact was made among the 45 survivors to cannibaIize those who perished, with a rule of not consuming one's own kin. Half did so, the others continued eating boiled bark. Out of the 81 members stranded, 47 survived, the oldest and youngest perished.
*One can only imagine the pain and suffering they endured stranded for 5 months in some of the harshest conditions imaginable, so, it is not just tragic but ironic asf that an 18 y.o. boy named William Hook survived the starvation, only to die from eating too much a day after getting rescued!!*
No, he didn't burst. Eating too quickly (too much food too fast) can cause what's known as "Refeeding Syndrome" where the swift reintroduction of food back to the body will cause severe electrolyte disturbances that can have myriad effects on the body, such as seizures, heart failure, coma and death. When William was brought to the camp erected to house and rehabilitate the survivors, he broke into a locked shed housing food supplies. When the woman running the camp saw him sitting on the ground outside the shed eating the stolen food, she called out his name and told him to stop, at that point William stopped, turned around while still seated on the floor and collapsed dead before saying a word. How this isn't more well known, is beyond me.
If curious...out of almost a dozen families, only two made it without losing any members...the Reeds and the Breens (the Reeds never resorted to cannibaIism). All corpses died naturally, except for two Miwok Indian guides (Luis and Salvador) murdered by hunger-crazed William Foster who sh0t them in the head (with a few others butchered the bodies). *If the numbers don't add up: 87 started the journey, 81 got stranded. 45 survivors at the camp during the pact, but 15 left prior to get help (out of which 7 survived).*
I remember learning about the Donner Party, and yeah it's pretty incredible what they went through.
The government absolutely should have paid them they went through absolute hell they deserved money for everything they went through
Worked hard most of my life. Had to have a kidney surgery, then a shoulder surgery. Then separated Friday March 13th 2019. Eventually divorce. Had to have a right shoulder surgery then a left shoulder surgery, then a wrist surgery. Through this time ended up in a shed, couldn't work, no government assistance. Average one meal a day for ten months went from 140 lbs. to 110 lbs. In that state, a state that I didn't volunteer for. Was a kin to starvation, add in the isolation, depression, loss of kids, land , home, vehicles. ...and much more . Almost my sanity.
That's awful. I hope and pray that you are doing better now.
I love starving it gives me mental clarity
Starvation is not 2 meals per day. It's 0 meals per day... PERIOD
theyre tryna be atleast a bit ethical.. this isnt ww2 japan era lmao
It may be any number of meals but low total calories (compared to the energy need of the person in question. 1500 kcal isn't starvation for many of us). Total starvation is one thing but there is low-key starvation where the food is very much insufficient but not close to zero. if I eat 1000 kcal a day in 6 meals , that's severe starvation. And a hellish existence as I suffer without my decent sized meals (big for most other people I suppose).
@@shiNIN42 1000 calories of sugar is much, MUCH worse to your health and bodyweight than 1000 calories of fat... PERIOD
Did you miss the part where they had to run miles and miles!
we can talk about intermittend fasting but starving is disgusting. I'm very glad I did not choose Bodybuilding as my favorite strength sport, some friends from my Gym tend to go compete very other year or so and they turn into complete psychos while they are in the higher caloric deficit weeks. right before they go on stage, they load up, that means they finally put a decent amount of good carbs into their bodies, so the muscle fills up the energy reserves and looks fuller, whilst they are below the 5% bodyfat mark. it is mentally absolutely horrible and even after they were done with the competition and decided to "lmao let's go finally eat KFC" it is apperently rly rly hard to get "enough" food in and keeping it there. and that's just the bodybuilding thing - I can't impossibly imagine, what these men must've gone through, not only shedding away fat, but every bit of tissue until they were all skin and bones.
It's terrible that these men went through this w/o any kind of compensation for it whatsoever. Another time government acted shamefully. Immoral.
They were volunteers.
@@possummagic3571 Still immoral
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1560 Calories is famine?? And I'm seeing entire reddit communities dedicated to eating 1200-1500 calories
For a few weeks it’s fine. Not recommended for months and months.
Depends on the person and also the time period. These were all tall-ish man, living in the 1950s. They probably moved a lot, had jobs that made them walk/lift and do other exercises every day for long hours. Today, many people have sitting jobs, and dont exercise at all. A short woman who doesn't move probably has a basic metabolic rate of 1400-1500. These man probably had twice as much.