the Samoan Way of War | A Brief Description of Warfare in Samoa

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  • Опубліковано 10 сер 2023
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  • @TimBrianTufuga
    @TimBrianTufuga 9 місяців тому +10

    A note on the inaccuracies of the pictures of the Samoan Warriors. Most Samoan Warriors were tattoed with the Pe'a from torso to their knees. The weapon of choice was not the spear, but, the Nifo Oti for the most adept and fearsome Warriors. All other weapons, including spears were used by other lesser but necessary infantry skirmishing Aumaga Warriors.

  • @colinmathura-jeffree9829
    @colinmathura-jeffree9829 11 місяців тому +5

    Fascinating

  • @tasilua1051
    @tasilua1051 11 місяців тому +9

    These Messengers are called Sāvali after the daughter of Tagaloalagi, her name was Tagaloa Le Tūlī or Tagaloa Sāvali, they hold the utmost sacredness and can interupt any Fono a matai (Chiefly gathering), Wars were started when someone insulted a Sāvali, these Sāvali also and their own special titles... My family name Sāvali comes from my great x3 Grandmother who was a Sāvali from the Atua district.
    Also Women children and elders are NOT suppose to be harmed at ALL they are called TINIFŪ, Malietoa Vaiinupo broke this tapu when whe accepted christianity and had all women and children burned alive in the Tītō

    • @raymanipili6387
      @raymanipili6387 11 місяців тому +1

      Lilo no. Lol often women/wives were taken by the victors. Of course this was before Malietoa's time.

    • @tasilua1051
      @tasilua1051 11 місяців тому

      @@raymanipili6387 se aikae aua kau fua lo ka igoa RAY

    • @tasilua1051
      @tasilua1051 11 місяців тому

      They gave their lives to bring piece thata why women r called TAUSALA

  • @TimBrianTufuga
    @TimBrianTufuga 9 місяців тому +3

    I am a descendant of the Maota O Pouesi, or the descendants of Malietoa Talavou, Talavou was the Military commander of the Malietoa Forces from Savaii and Manono who led skirmishes throughout Aana and Atua Villagees from the sea. We had conquered the Aana and the Atua Warriors during the taua o le Fa'atasiga from 1830 and the intermittent battles in consolidating the Sa Malietoa tutelage rule over the entire Samoan Islands. Malietoa would consolidate the Tafaifa Title after conquering Atua and Aana and later still would launch raids onto Manu'a and Tutuila in the usurpation of the Tui Manu'a Chieftains. Overall, the Maota O Pouesi would in turn resort to a family feud after the brother of Vainuupo ascended the Tafaifa upon the passing of Malietoa Vainuupo. When Malietoa Gatuitasina (brother of Vainuupo) passed away, Moli or the Maota O Poutoa ascended and became the Malietoa whereas the Warriors who had fought for Malietoa Vainuupo supported Malietoa Talavou, since he was the Commander of the Malietoa War Parties during the military campaigns throughout Upolu. The ensuing conflict between Malietoa Talavou and Malietoa Moli's son would split the Malietoa amongst the Maota O Pouesi and Maota O Poutoa which remains today. Currently, the descedants of Malietoa Moli from the Maota o Poutoa remain the Malietoa. The descendants of Malietoa Talavou have effectively been discontinued and we are scattered throughout the world today. We are from the Sa Tuiletufuga family from Apia, the direct descendants of the Malletoa Talavou's second marriage whose son married a Taupou from Apia Village, the first Afioga Papalii Tuiletufuga from Apia Village. As I would describe Malietoa Talavou, as the General and commander in Chief of Malietoa Vainuupo's Forces during the 19th century and the nemesis for Tui Aana and Tui Atua.

    • @cameronleaana1153
      @cameronleaana1153 5 місяців тому +2

      Thank you for the history
      I don’t know much but i was told by my mother there was a line of MalieToa that came through FaleUla Her Father was Seupule Alofia
      My grandfather
      I was hoping you would know something about that connection?
      Maybe shed some light if possible
      Anyway thanks again i really enjoyed the read

    • @TimBrianTufuga
      @TimBrianTufuga 5 місяців тому

      Talofa lava. Malie le uso oute le iloa lau gafa, fa'amalie atu. @@cameronleaana1153

    • @ralphnzee
      @ralphnzee 5 місяців тому +1

      ​@@cameronleaana1153the first Malietoa was Savea who was from Faleula where he resided. He was the brother of Tuna ma Fata

  • @PanfaMax
    @PanfaMax 11 місяців тому +8

    Keep them coming please 🇼🇸

    • @HighChief-gh1ut
      @HighChief-gh1ut 11 місяців тому

      Sole, this is cap info. This AI making bank and misleading our people 🤦🏾‍♂️

  • @user-qd8my4yy4c
    @user-qd8my4yy4c 11 місяців тому +2

    i love the art.. can someone tell me where i can upload them??? or who the artist is??

    • @lolelole1836
      @lolelole1836 7 місяців тому

      AI

    • @Jes-ff5mp
      @Jes-ff5mp 2 місяці тому

      The images are made by a computer generated program

  • @taro2928
    @taro2928 11 місяців тому +2

    That AI art sumn else uce

  • @user-oy1go8qw3l
    @user-oy1go8qw3l 11 місяців тому

    O

  • @Tray_Tray555
    @Tray_Tray555 9 місяців тому +12

    And they were dark skinned at first

    • @johnappleseed2558
      @johnappleseed2558 8 місяців тому +8

      Their were actually fair skinned ppl in Samoa

    • @user-qd4og3ig9b
      @user-qd4og3ig9b 7 місяців тому +8

      Skin has nothing to do with culture tho

    • @Tray_Tray555
      @Tray_Tray555 7 місяців тому

      @@user-qd4og3ig9b that's what I been trying to tell people

    • @kshatriyapa
      @kshatriyapa 5 місяців тому +11

      You people need to quit being obsessed with skin color.

    • @user-qd4og3ig9b
      @user-qd4og3ig9b 5 місяців тому +3

      Color is irrelevant in storytelling that has been passed down for generations...& Generations to come 🫴🏽 pls pay attn to the acts of service 🫡 Oceania is more than name calling savages 👏🏽🙏🏽🤎 be kind with the mind.

  • @jahdamm1595
    @jahdamm1595 11 місяців тому +9

    This some BS😂

    • @ChrisEAdlay
      @ChrisEAdlay 11 місяців тому +3

      It's not. There are plenty of journals from the time that describe the lives of Samoans and other islanders

    • @jahdamm1595
      @jahdamm1595 11 місяців тому +5

      @ualeaisekupe5754 😂🤣😂🤣😂 are you alright from were you can find this journals?

    • @ChrisEAdlay
      @ChrisEAdlay 11 місяців тому +7

      ​@@jahdamm1595JSTOR. You can read the extensive works of Kramer, diary of John Williams, amongst others.

    • @jahdamm1595
      @jahdamm1595 11 місяців тому +10

      So you rely on European journals not our own Samoan journals

    • @ChrisEAdlay
      @ChrisEAdlay 11 місяців тому +14

      @@jahdamm1595 what Samoan journals? Is that all you've got? Obviously Samoans didn't have journals in the 18th century. What we have is oral tradition that corroborates other sources. If you've got a journal from a Dutchman, an English sailor, a French poet, a German scientist, an English missionary and oral traditions then you combine these sources to piece together a puzzle.