The Hard Truth About Being a Pro Photographer

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  • Опубліковано 14 січ 2025

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  • @leehurley4106
    @leehurley4106 3 роки тому +7

    Your video was very inspiring. I am getting late in years but I am determined to be the best I can be and hope to leave a small legacy behind that I and my family can find some pride in. I don't aim to get rich but would dearly love to give people something they can treasure through my craft. Your video helped me rekindle that spark a little more and I really appreciate it. Please keep up the great work.

  • @antonoat
    @antonoat 3 роки тому +22

    We have to be realistic and honest, these days often the biggest supporters of "pro" photographers are those aspiring to be photographers themselves. UA-cam can give a distorted view of what a pro photographer actually does day to day, there is a massive difference between a UA-cam "pro" photographer and an actual pro photographer. Just saying.

    • @crowtheri
      @crowtheri 3 роки тому +1

      Agree! Do you think it would be worth seeing a potted average weeks work for a pro photographer to see the reality of the role and business? Almost like a self-styled ethnography where the pro immerses themselves inside of their own work to dispel the facade of what we see weekly on UA-cam and grant realism to the proposition of starting a new business?!

    • @simonmaduxx6777
      @simonmaduxx6777 3 роки тому +3

      Much much truth in this statement. The enthusiasts in my opinion literally support the entire industry. Something about photography just like painting etc, hits you in the creative heart... More learning and more gear is a simple way to eventually be able to take better photos and it's a huge driver. Also I'm sure we can all agree that the industry does not support photographers enough so so many of them have had to turn to the UA-cams and teaching and such to be able to support themselves and maintain their business. As well I'm not sure where you're from but if you do market research on the American photography market it's horrible it would be other lunacy to try to enter into that market unless the moon and the stars is shining on you.

  • @scotty4418
    @scotty4418 3 роки тому +3

    Much food for thought there Adam, especially for those who are contemplating making that leap. The one thing I have always respected about your work when its featured on your channel is an understanding of the effort that is made in creating your images in the field. When you factor in the time, cost of travel and then cost of production and the cost of maintaining a business, it is evident to achieve what have achieved in no easy ride. Social media can sometimes portray a distorted reality of being successful, whereas your channel portrays the opposite, it's an honest depiction of what needs to be done to succeed. Appreciate you sharing your own thoughts on this subject

  • @peterfritzphoto
    @peterfritzphoto 3 роки тому +3

    Adam - your videos are so valuable and helpful. I appreciate you enormously.

  • @itaylorm
    @itaylorm 3 роки тому

    Thank you for sharing your days when you are frustrated. Often gets forgotten when you are having challenges how much we enjoy photography. Your comment "An accumulation of hard work" is so right.

  • @captinktm
    @captinktm 3 роки тому +9

    Two points I would add. If your not self driven then don't even think about it. Also turning a hobby into a business can ruin that hobby.

  • @GilbertTV
    @GilbertTV 3 роки тому

    well said Adam... I made a bold move a year ago this month to go "pro" after getting fired from my day job.. not great timing due to covid 19 so its been a very tough year but I got paid for some work & have a few jobs in the bag post lockdown . I think its important to be honest ,nice & care about what you do, give something special . Knowing how to run a business & marketing/promotion etc is as important as the mechanics of the job itself & thats often where it goes wrong for a lot of creatives.. I'm lucky Ive run a successful business a decade ago so at least I have those skills to help me on.

  • @CoffeeandPhotographyTalk
    @CoffeeandPhotographyTalk 2 роки тому

    Good information! So many who want to turn pro have really no idea what the pro photography landscape is really like as compared to just the enjoyment of 'taking pictures'.

  • @gregmolchan1202
    @gregmolchan1202 3 роки тому

    Thanks for this!

  • @JohnPaul-ii
    @JohnPaul-ii 3 роки тому +1

    Big difference between making a little money from your photography hobby and actually making a living from photography .
    Looking forward to seeing more of your work out in the English countryside soon.
    Thanks for sharing again Adam.
    Stay safe 😷🇦🇺

  • @thomaswiik3810
    @thomaswiik3810 3 роки тому +1

    Thanks for another inspiring video! Looking forward to the book :)

  • @simonmaduxx6777
    @simonmaduxx6777 3 роки тому +1

    Wonderful video. As a design art director who's been trying to transition to photography for the last 5 years, I can unequivocally state that momentum is a critical factor in maintaining your enthusiasm, and it will either be the moon and the stars (seriously) or your network/lack thereof that will determine your photography fate. Without momentum, after a certain point fear can start setting in - that your hard work and dedication is for naught, and you're destined to not reach the heights that you believe you can. AND standing right next to you will be someone who's working half as hard as you, but seems to be cruising on their way to bigger and better things. The ego check can be very very painful, the world can laugh at your dreams and your reaction will be the key. Being honest with yourself about the business of photography is both amazingly insightful and potentially very sad when you gather the metrics of how the system works especially if you're on the editorial side...i will either be very easy or very very difficult to swallow. I love what he mentions about the craft - it can be challenging in this social media environment to show the 'how' of your process if it's not something you envisioned to offer. So I am constantly debating what else can I provide of value without making myself the subject.
    Learn from my struggles and push on. Push on or leave it alone. Recently an editor had passed on the chance to publish my work, as my previous editor is no longer at the company. The voices in my head were saying keep hope alive she may come through. It's been four days and no response but I can't let people like that deteriorate my enthusiasm. Instead I'm going to take that work and push it off to various editors. And if they don't feel it then I'll put it out to the general community or something. As David Chappelle recently said, "... do it anyway, you can't let these bitch ass people hate on your shine."
    Good luck to you guys out there, the struggle is real, fight the good fight.

  • @petercollins7848
    @petercollins7848 3 роки тому +1

    Brilliant content as usual Adam. Keep up the realistic information and approach. Real photography is hard work and requires dedication, not like just taking a ‘snap’!

  • @davidposaas7350
    @davidposaas7350 3 роки тому +1

    Real, practical advice. No sugar coating. Everything comes from smart hard work.

  • @jesse4590
    @jesse4590 3 роки тому +1

    Great video, felt like a bit of a refresh. Cheers Adam.

  • @wimscheenen3535
    @wimscheenen3535 3 роки тому +1

    Great explanation! And I agree on your POV of the big break.

  • @natures-nomads
    @natures-nomads 3 роки тому +1

    Love this video, I can relate to this 100% keep up the honest informative great work 👍👍👍

  • @stevekaschak9442
    @stevekaschak9442 3 роки тому +1

    As always, amazing!
    Thank you Adam,
    Steve

  • @chrisburnard5157
    @chrisburnard5157 3 роки тому

    Excellent again Adam. Thank you.

  • @andrewchisholm3665
    @andrewchisholm3665 3 роки тому

    In an ideal world I would love to be a professional photographer but due to my sight disability there are lots of times that I can't even look at the TV never mind pick up my camera and shoot or edit.
    Years ago I went back to full time higher education as a mature student and earned a degree in Media Theory and Production which I absolutely loved doing. But the big down part of it was that it took my enjoyment of watching films and TV programmes without deconstructing everything that was going on on the screen etc. So I know that this would be the same if I started earning from my photography. For now I will stick to it being my hobby but be the most professional I can be on the studio shoots, when covid buggers off, I do and absolutely love doing

  • @Pixelpeeps-69
    @Pixelpeeps-69 3 роки тому

    Working more smarter than harder is the key especially in the marketing side if your a pro photographer as it’s your marketing skills and knowledge come 1st

  • @crowtheri
    @crowtheri 3 роки тому +6

    I'd love to try but I aint going to put my family through the necessary risk and sacrifices - to me, its a relentless media, marketing and promotion job really. Whilst there are certain freedoms, you are still tied to even longer hours than serving shareholders, but it's something in theory you like doing. The enjoyable part of creative fieldwork and making films would be terrific, but the long slog of building, developing and nurturing a business, often to the detriment of people around you who have to make room in their lives to pick up matters you are not doing due to your obsession and devotion to the craft. At times, I think its pretty selfish and at others I found you should follow your dream - catch-22. However, I think this video is massively valuable, Adam, as it speaks the truth from your hard fought experience and the pressures you have felt. Some people thrive on this pressure and have families that are extremely tolerant, at least at the start - that can change however, and where do you go then, as things don't stay the same at home as kids grow and people change sometimes without you realising when your caught with the blinkers on!? Be informed, know the risks and pressures of building and developing any business - for me, this is a younger mans game, when pressures and responsibilities are less, rather than something you start later in life - but never say never! :) Thank-you!

    • @mikeysteam
      @mikeysteam 3 роки тому +1

      100% agree. And there's no denying the perceived value of pro photography has been decimated with hardware and software (ai) making the craft appear easy to replicate.

    • @crowtheri
      @crowtheri 3 роки тому +1

      @@mikeysteam Aye, I think that's correct, Mike! Replication for social media is one thing, but for a high quality A2 print, books, etc. it can be altogether a different proposition and where real skills come to the fore. But how much of this makes money now? Very little I presume. The business model like many other tech driven responses is repeat subscription based monetisation, short cuts to remove the skill base, which for me at least is the democratisation of photography, (which has some upsides and blurs the debate on art and photography), and at some level debases its craft. maintaining a healthy distance from the democratised crowd approaching fast in the rear mirror requires constant thought and reinvention - seems to be a process increasing in speed now.

    • @mikeysteam
      @mikeysteam 3 роки тому +1

      @@crowtheri yes! Easier to get a job in a supermarket for the same money, without responsibility, and keep photography as a hobby for self fulfilment...

  • @andybaden5935
    @andybaden5935 3 роки тому

    Great video, and some sage advice. Being self employed has risks in any business, but being involved in a creative industry only compounds matters in my opinion, as there will be times when you will doubt yourself. You must never lose sight of your goal, love the fact you didn't cash the cheque. Keep up the good work

  • @enigmabletchley6936
    @enigmabletchley6936 3 роки тому

    Great insights. Thanks for sharing.

  • @ruudmaas2480
    @ruudmaas2480 3 роки тому +10

    I do think the title "Pro Photographer" is realy difficult to define. Most Pro Photographer do not earn the money by making photographs or selling their photographs. Education and sponsorships are for most pro photographers the base of their income. So I do like to use more the term of "Pro in Photography". For what it is worth. But I realy like your photographs.

  • @teridashfield5581
    @teridashfield5581 3 роки тому

    The prints you show, what size and type of paper is that and what are the print dimensions themselves. Love the way they look!

  • @GrymmsPlace
    @GrymmsPlace 3 роки тому

    Hard work and striving for the goal in mind. 100% agree. Channels like this one offer the inspiration and push for, I would imagine, all of its subscribers in one way or another. A disservice is done to the insta-grat generation who expect immediate results and go completely to pieces when their first many offerings do not get galaxy-wide worship. Thanks for posting this insightful and useful video.

  • @JNkind5
    @JNkind5 3 роки тому

    Well done video. Thank you.

  • @LivingImage
    @LivingImage 3 роки тому

    Great tutorial! Thanks much.

  • @svetlanagrobman3476
    @svetlanagrobman3476 3 роки тому

    It's funny. I feel the happiest in the field -- shooting. The unhappy feelings come when I look at my images later and realize that they don't quite convey my feelings/impressions in my photos.

  • @DiviPhotos
    @DiviPhotos 3 роки тому

    great video

  • @paulcomptonpdphotography
    @paulcomptonpdphotography 3 роки тому

    My dream is to leave the horrid factory work and to be a full time photographer but I dont have a business head so I am stuck. Great video

  • @ignacymat
    @ignacymat 3 роки тому

    the thing i hate the most is taking care of your cables and backups, and of course keeping the bloody computer up to date and working.

  • @mbenjamin292
    @mbenjamin292 3 роки тому

    This is a stupid question I have a Sony a7ii I want to make big landscape prints will I be able to accomplish this?I want to get a tamron lens for$ 800.000 will this lens help or am I just wishing and I had to purchase a more expensive camera please help or should I get a more expensive lens whatever you say is exactly what I cam doing.I have seen enough of your vids to be able to trust you thanks.

  • @iKeto_gal
    @iKeto_gal 3 роки тому +1

    It just seems difficult to reach that "successful" pro photographer status. Can you provide your family or if single yourself. Do you have enough income as a photographer for life insurance, medical insurance, 401k (retirement), emergency savings account, savings account for your children's college, a mortgage, etc.?

    • @netcrawler9381
      @netcrawler9381 3 роки тому +1

      Man you live in the wrong country. In Sweden you don´t have to have a life insurance. Healthcare is free. You always have a pension by law. School and university is free.

  • @johnhjic2
    @johnhjic2 3 роки тому

    Hell Adam, I remember or try to :) beck in the 1980's have let collage try to find a way it to photography was possibly harder than? Not internet and digital just passion for taking images. I did that start to do wedding and portraits in the home and after years fave a 3000sq ft studio building room set, working the file and TV craws make TV ads, and working with ad agents. I love the work but I heated the politics. Now I have more kit then ever and I take image for me. Not many people see them but I have fun. But I have been shielding for what 10 months out of the last 12. Just got a new letter from the UK gov telling me that I must shield until 31//3/2021 and that is the earliest (that even after my first jab), So I am looking for to late spring and opening my front door to be out. Love your videos they are keeping me going. Keep well, keep safe, and have fun for all of us locked in side.

  • @the_useless_photographer
    @the_useless_photographer 3 роки тому

    Hats off to you, I couldn't do photography for a living. I wouldn't cope with the pressure of it being my source of income. As an engineer I can do my work, guaranteed wages and overtime, go home at 2pm and pick up my camera for pleasure with zero pressure and forget about work. Sure it's indoor work but it's warm and dry and 12 minutes from my house, it stays a passion and a pleasure when it's for fun only. Honest question, would people be successful at photography without UA-cam or would it be harder to achieve? Cheers.

    • @mikeysteam
      @mikeysteam 3 роки тому

      Me neither. I used to rely on it as an income years ago, but saw where it was going. Pro photography is purely about apparent teaching via YT for followers and ad revenue, nothing to do with providing images. Sad but it's dead as we know it. iPhone wins.

    • @gelder69
      @gelder69 3 роки тому +1

      Not sure I agree with these comments? There’s loads of pro photographers making a living from photography and not from social media. I’ve been doing it for 30 years since starting as a press photographer at 18. I still shoot loads of editorial but also commercial too. There’s some good photographers on YT but also some pretty average ones too who get buy with building a channel with a wacky personality but not always great images! Just saying

  • @ViratShah
    @ViratShah 3 роки тому

    Is that Andrew Marr with you at 2.27?
    Nice video.

  • @tj862
    @tj862 3 роки тому

    Hello, I would like to know how to progress in different ways? I thought about starting with stock images and using their websites before starting my own website such as squarespace. I'm worried about breaching the terms and conditions of anything if I post anything offensive or promote something I don't want to. When do I need other things such as model release forms when shooting portraits or building release forms for buildings or street photography. I also thought I'd be copying if I saw something on UA-cam or a book, and I take a similar image or a similar technic. Compared to searching for a image on the internet, copying and pasting that to sell. Thanks

  • @pulseimages
    @pulseimages 3 роки тому

    Which tripod is featured in this video?

  • @haroldcarlson2775
    @haroldcarlson2775 3 роки тому +1

    Landscape photographers have to have many different income streams to make a living. Actually taking and selling photographs is such a small part of the overall business that you have to wonder what does it mean to be a professional landscape photographer anymore?

    • @mikeysteam
      @mikeysteam 3 роки тому

      Agreed. I don't think it exists in its own right as a 'job' anymore. Just like massive reduction in the demand for dedicated wedding photography. Every camera/phone which is released kills off someone's full time career through the undervaluing of their skills. Good enough is good enough sadly.

  • @untouchable360x
    @untouchable360x 3 роки тому

    Hard truths cut both ways.

  • @lefrash
    @lefrash 3 роки тому +1

    Great video. lots of food for thought. Plus, one of the most leanest 'bleeps' for Bullshit I think ive ever heard. :D

  • @GapBahnDirk
    @GapBahnDirk 3 роки тому

    I would expect that the biggest headache is also your biggest asset. The darn customer.

  • @NeilGraham
    @NeilGraham 3 роки тому

    👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

  • @COShea-iw6ii
    @COShea-iw6ii 3 роки тому

    If someone has time to log on and say you're not a real photographer... think about it, theeyyy clearly are not out shooting. Pfffttt, we real photographers do not disrespect our peers.

  • @gryzman
    @gryzman 3 роки тому

    It does seem like these days one needs to have youtube channel and produce sponsored videos every week to get decent money flowing in. It's a shame really, because it takes away from the time to develop and produce content for customers who are actually paying for it.

  • @Eigil_Skovgaard
    @Eigil_Skovgaard 3 роки тому +3

    I try to be positive. Each time I am attempted to open this channel I expect to see the craft of yours being carried out. This session is predominantly a replay of several videos I have watched before from this channel, and I still get 99 percent talk, somewhat narcissistic analyzes, and very little active photography. How can anybody - the enormous competition in this field taken into account - make a living out of landscape photography? And this question leads to another - what are you actually doing with your business to survive? I have known a number of photographers who had to be octopuses to feed their family. They did tools, furniture, weddings, portraits, and all kinds of somewhat profane photography. Now and then they would sell a photograph from the display and maybe a frame, but nothing they could live of. I have scanned through about 500 of your colleges on YT, most of them belong to the same tribe by the way. They all call themselves landscape photographers. In total they must have produced thousands and thousands of landscape photographs, i.e. the market must be floated with that genre. I would like you to make a video where you disclose the secret.

    • @mikeysteam
      @mikeysteam 3 роки тому

      Although perhaps written with a harsh tone, your underlying comments are valid. As far as photography as an income is concerned, it's pretty much YT or nothing. No YTuber ever declares what they make from it, so all we can do is guess.

    • @Eigil_Skovgaard
      @Eigil_Skovgaard 3 роки тому

      @They Caged Non I have followed First Man .. from way before any lockdown. The lockdowns are not an excuse for recycling old content. It's merely an excuse for keeping the volume as a "content creator" constant relative to YT, which is a consideration that sometimes overrule the intent of bringing something new, i.e. it becomes boring. This world is a big fractal, so there are a lot of images to be taken of details in the landscape. I think it's hard to sell landscape photography, so maybe Adam has put his eggs in other baskets and is talking about his hobby. I understand that, but still - it can be boring.

    • @Eigil_Skovgaard
      @Eigil_Skovgaard 3 роки тому

      @@mikeysteam I prefer to analyze and not to guess, as I see a tendency in the obvious central coaching, which further make the output from a great number of these members of the same club redundant.

  • @rodsmoltz5996
    @rodsmoltz5996 3 роки тому

    Sorry Adam but this video is a bit depressing....I still enjoy your work

    • @petercollins7848
      @petercollins7848 3 роки тому

      This is realistic! Not like so many so-called ‘Pro’ photographers on UA-cam.

  • @photobobo
    @photobobo 3 роки тому

    Photography is NOT a profession. Neither is self aggrandizement.