It’s not exactly unhistorical though, considering ancient Egyptians built the Canal of the Pharaohs to connect the Red Sea and Mediterranean. Also, the Mamelukes and Venice were apparently trying to rebuild the canal to undercut Portugal’s monopoly on trade with India. Although this plan failed due to the Ottoman conquest of Egypt.
@@ferdinandfoch7816 Think the Canal of Pharaohs was more an idea that ultimately a failure then an actual prospect for the times. Its failure is mostly put down to the difference in sea levels between the two, though probably there were other issues.
@@paul_5848 The Canal of the Pharaohs really existed for about 1000 years and was attested to by multiple historians during the ancient, classical, and early medieval period. Soldiers of Napoleon's army in Egypt even discovered sections of the canal. It wasn't a direct connection between the Red Sea and Mediterranean, but instead a connection between the Red Sea and the Nile.
@@ferdinandfoch7816 Think its said there were attempts to bridge the gap more then what the land connection would have been but think the most it could realistically achieve was something like to lake Timsah or something. Theres also several historians who say yes it was attempted but never completeled like with Darius. If it was completed then the logic suggests why did the canal functionally end since Ancient Egyptians Greeks, Romans, Arabs have all made mention of some form of Canal project idea for the region but if the first had one how was it not replicated or just revived later. Sadly even with using the Nile rather then the Med you still have to deal with the difference of water level. If completed it would either straight up not work or mess with the flow of the rest of the Nile
@@trollolol705 ...On console. PC games have been getting updates since before the internet. Some companies would even mail you an update disk free of charge if you asked nicely.
I love how red hawk just glosses over all these things that would scare new plays and say "dont worry: thats normal". Vassels being seiged? Dont worry, that is normal. Over ship limit? Dont worry, thats normal. Vassels disloyal? Dont worry, thats normal. Barbarians at the gates? Dont worry, thats normal. Elephants in the mountains? Dont worry, thats normal
If you had used the return core option in the peace deal, you could have gotten Byz to 200 relations and also 100 favours which you can convert for trust. Manually ceding land does not give them relations and favours for some reason.
You don't have to worry as much about going over 100 with estate influence. The disaster for it can only tick if their loyalty is below 60 and you're not at war. A war will immediately halt the process and in most cases where influence is that high, loyalty is also well above 60, preventing any disaster. From there, just choose event options that reduce influence as time goes on. (And don't summon the diet too often)
The issue really is with getting crownland after your conquest of provinces. Influence of estates, if high enough, will result in lesser crown land than the crownlands before conquest
25:32 Awesome! The Mamluks do not need to be independent for this mission or the prereq. Making it an ideal vassal for anyone else that wants an early Suez. Which is… almost everyone.
Also, if you placate Syria before you get patronage of the arts, you can get more prestige back because it's negative. Like 20 or 25 instead of the 15. I don't remember how it scales.
Friendly reminder that you can also get another +10 relations if you transfer trade. I think steering trade does the same, but I'm not completely sure.
They changed the Suez cannal mission. It now requires 5 buildings in Sharqiya as well as improved 10 times. Won't be able to complete the mission as early anymore
If you can rush arabia/the horn/the east coast of Africa you can basically establish a stranglehold on all the trade coming from the spice Islands once they become majorly relevant, steering most of it into your main node and collecting what makes it past you to the east coast of Africa. Let European nations scramble and fight to deal with colonising/developing them, you can just suck the trade out of them after all their hard work.
Just started this, thanks for the guide. Something weird has happened, though, I declared on Castile, and France, my rival, is in the war on my side. Weird bug, gotta be.
I believe its still counted as overseas so you simply can't fabricate a claim on them because you have no adjacent province. But you still want to do it because it stops the ottomans on their mission tree and you are well position to fight them, hence why the no CB
As someone else mentioned, you can't fabricate a claim on a province unless you have a province that's next to it, or that shares a sea tile with it. Your mission tree doesn't give you claims in the Balkans until you've hit the Ottomans a bunch of times for Anatolia and by then they're very unlikely to still exist.
Already two people asked this, just curious do you play the game or only watch UA-cam since claim fabrication is something you have to do in like every campaign ever (real question there is nothing bad if that would be true)
Honestly that got me baffled. You get claims on Ottomans day 1, you kill the Ottomans then declare on the Byzantines with an actual CB. No extra AE/WE/Stab hit doing so.
Im curious to know why didnt you claim a province from byz? I mean yes the siege speed but is 4-8% siege speed really worth the -2 stab hit? And when you no cb‘d your spy network was on 31% if i remember correctly With the claim no stab hit + war ex = faster expansion no?
@@JosuaHots Understandable. I prefer the strat Ludi had where you declare on day 1, and make sure to ally AQ to cuck the Ottomans out of that ally. It's a bonus if you subjugate Byz while they're at war with the Ottomans because it's then a defensive war where you can call in your other allies, assuming you have them.
Any chance of an England to Angevin empire guide after the main ones from King of Kings? I cannot seem to get a game started without massive coalitions from PUing France, and your older guides don't have an English Nobility estate at all...
In general, if there's not an agenda that gives you something important to your goals (e.g. a subjugation CB on someone you were already thinking of vassalising, or build a marketplace in a center of trade), just pick whichever is easiest to complete.
Isn't it better to feed low value land locked provinces to vassals instead of annexing them? Kind of reduce governing cost + vassal accepted culture when in a region outside of your culture group? (ie magreb, ethiopia, persia etc.)
I hope the AI Mamluks can actually pose a challenge to ottomans now. As it stands, if Ottos have more trouble fighting Venice than Memluks. Whcih makes all games past 1600 just repetitive wars vs Ottomans and it's kinda boring.
Are savegames started in 1.35 compatible ? I started a campaign and am around the printing presse discovery. If not I will gladlly follow tour guide and restart
Guide how to play Mamluks in 1.36: - capture Byzantine or restart if Ottomans do it first. That's a great plan, Walter. That's fucking ingenious, if I understand it correctly. It's a Swiss fucking watch.
So tell me why the Hydraulic Rights privilege is not relevant ? Because you've never developed coastal and desert provinces... , but Mamluks have a lot of them!
I am totally cool with everything up until the no cv war against byzantium. It is a flashy, quick world conquest etc tactic and it does create a really favorable condition for the mamluks but there is an issue... It doesn't work 5 out of 6 times. No matter how meticulously one has prepared everything. Even if the Ottomans have not declared war up until one starts the no cv war, there are numerous issues. Issue number one is attrition. The army (and it has to be a big one) besieging constantinople will suffer tons of attrition and it will take it a looooong time to besiege the city. During that time the army will suffer attrition and the byzantines and their allies will attack with all they got. Ok sure, mamluks can take that, they are tougher than Byzantium and its allies. However, the problem is that the Ottomans WILL attack. And you will have to fight them after fighting the entire byzantium army along with its allies.
Dude, skill issue. You are doing something horrible wrong. At worst, they got Walachia If you are that exhausted by war, annex and release. As mamluks, you are basically cut Into from ANY expansion fail proof, recover and decimate them
Building churches in a Muslim country hahahaha.. This is pure blasphemy!!! I'm kidding you, but when you review a Muslim country, you mention building mosques instead of churches. Good job 👏🏼
You really really need to play more aggressively and conquer way more than this in 1512. That being said I know your playstyle is not really aggressive and you prefer the chill more relaxed way and I respect that. What I don't understand tho is how it is 1512 and you still did not get the kaffa and damot gold mines, like man they are really easy to grab at the start and give you a huge amount of money that you need to fund your wars early in the campaign. You even fought ethiopia in one of the wars like just get them, also it will help you get more trade power in the Gulf of Aden trade node and you could potenitally trade company the Gonder trade node which gives you a free mercant.
This is literally a guide for beginners man. He plays a lot more aggressive in his other series and especially in his live campaigns, but he literally even says at around 44:00 that you could be more aggressive, but the guide is for newer players.
Even a strong nation can be fun and challenging to play. For example, if you play very wide, to manage all of your territories and subjects and wars on the opposite sides of the world can be annoying.
Their geographic location is worth far more in my opinion than any CCR ore Morale modifier could be, you can blob in several directions easy without facing any bigger nations and are able to easily deale with the Ottos at the Games Start!
@@milko540 not a one really worth permanent modifier, Ottos have 10 ADM efficiency, eyalets, like 20 ccr and so on Mamluks have cloves in awful trade node which can never be fully controlled Ironically, a lot of small rewards they have now is something similar to old Ottos/current Rum tree
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the suez canal beginning construction in 1465 is actually insane.
That’s a lot of dead slaves to build that
It’s not exactly unhistorical though, considering ancient Egyptians built the Canal of the Pharaohs to connect the Red Sea and Mediterranean.
Also, the Mamelukes and Venice were apparently trying to rebuild the canal to undercut Portugal’s monopoly on trade with India. Although this plan failed due to the Ottoman conquest of Egypt.
@@ferdinandfoch7816 Think the Canal of Pharaohs was more an idea that ultimately a failure then an actual prospect for the times. Its failure is mostly put down to the difference in sea levels between the two, though probably there were other issues.
@@paul_5848 The Canal of the Pharaohs really existed for about 1000 years and was attested to by multiple historians during the ancient, classical, and early medieval period. Soldiers of Napoleon's army in Egypt even discovered sections of the canal. It wasn't a direct connection between the Red Sea and Mediterranean, but instead a connection between the Red Sea and the Nile.
@@ferdinandfoch7816 Think its said there were attempts to bridge the gap more then what the land connection would have been but think the most it could realistically achieve was something like to lake Timsah or something. Theres also several historians who say yes it was attempted but never completeled like with Darius. If it was completed then the logic suggests why did the canal functionally end since Ancient Egyptians Greeks, Romans, Arabs have all made mention of some form of Canal project idea for the region but if the first had one how was it not replicated or just revived later.
Sadly even with using the Nile rather then the Med you still have to deal with the difference of water level. If completed it would either straight up not work or mess with the flow of the rest of the Nile
28:08 this is a *HUGE* QoL update, thank you Paradox. Transfering occupation was a pain in the ass
that thing should be done 10 years before, they are selling us same shit over and over again
@@trollolol705 ...On console.
PC games have been getting updates since before the internet. Some companies would even mail you an update disk free of charge if you asked nicely.
It's about time Mamluks get updated
we need a "dont worry thats completely normal" counter for this episode
I was thinking the same ahahaha
bruh it sounded like "there's no war in Ba Sing Se" shit lmao
For the “Medina gold mine,” I think you should dev it to 10 while it’s cloth and costs less to dev. Just a small note.
I love how red hawk just glosses over all these things that would scare new plays and say "dont worry: thats normal". Vassels being seiged? Dont worry, that is normal. Over ship limit? Dont worry, thats normal. Vassels disloyal? Dont worry, thats normal. Barbarians at the gates? Dont worry, thats normal. Elephants in the mountains? Dont worry, thats normal
In eu4 there's always something more important to worry about than your measly little subjects
Your enemy can pay for it.
Red hawk is the incarnation of the this is fine dog meme.
We will build a nation. And make Ottomans pay for it.
who up maming they luks
*[EXTREMELY LOUD INCORRECT BUZZER]*
She mam on my luks til I Egypt
@@snakeoil7089 *[EXTREMELY LOUD INCORRECT BUZZER]*
Peak writing 🔥🔥🔥
@@antimattergI'm currently in Mamluks right now.
If you had used the return core option in the peace deal, you could have gotten Byz to 200 relations and also 100 favours which you can convert for trust.
Manually ceding land does not give them relations and favours for some reason.
Return core delete enemy core , normal conquest only give the province
Damn thanks guys now I finally know the difference and I'm 1980 hours in the game lol
Return core takes more warscore though
@@septillion. because you delete the enemy core
Finally, The Second Great Power in the world at game start has a mission tree which is proportionate to its importance
Great, but you know we're all going to need that Byzantine guide when this DLC comes out XD
Byzantines are basically impossible. Historically accurate
You don't have to worry as much about going over 100 with estate influence. The disaster for it can only tick if their loyalty is below 60 and you're not at war. A war will immediately halt the process and in most cases where influence is that high, loyalty is also well above 60, preventing any disaster. From there, just choose event options that reduce influence as time goes on. (And don't summon the diet too often)
The issue really is with getting crownland after your conquest of provinces.
Influence of estates, if high enough, will result in lesser crown land than the crownlands before conquest
25:32 Awesome! The Mamluks do not need to be independent for this mission or the prereq. Making it an ideal vassal for anyone else that wants an early Suez.
Which is… almost everyone.
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I love how he put the guy who killed the mamluks on the thumbnail
Trade favors for trust also helps with vassal loyalty
Also, if you placate Syria before you get patronage of the arts, you can get more prestige back because it's negative. Like 20 or 25 instead of the 15. I don't remember how it scales.
Thanks for promising to explain more about the monuments! Really sucked that didn't do that, tho
Friendly reminder that you can also get another +10 relations if you transfer trade. I think steering trade does the same, but I'm not completely sure.
Subsidies over time as well. Gave me the knights yesterday following the guide. Bit tricky vassalizing christian nations
LFG ITS ABOUT TIME
Now I need a venice guide using the mameluks to build the canal and then going into the Indian ocean before Portugal even discovers it.
Also accessed the Mamluks early for 1.36, not as powerful as 1.35's Ottoman's but it's definitely up there in the hands of the right player.
They changed the Suez cannal mission. It now requires 5 buildings in Sharqiya as well as improved 10 times. Won't be able to complete the mission as early anymore
Earned my sub again
If you can rush arabia/the horn/the east coast of Africa you can basically establish a stranglehold on all the trade coming from the spice Islands once they become majorly relevant, steering most of it into your main node and collecting what makes it past you to the east coast of Africa. Let European nations scramble and fight to deal with colonising/developing them, you can just suck the trade out of them after all their hard work.
"I don't recommend strengthen nobel privileges". Who are you?
I have a test on monday, but screw it, RedHawk time!
Hey, could you please do a guide for Ardabil? I mean, starting a campaign as them is just… pain.
Zlewikk did that yesterday didn’t he?
@@asovietdoggo2377 Sick, I’ll check it out.
@@asovietdoggo2377his campaign is impossible, Shirvan allies Ajam instantly every time
Taking byz early feels so cheesy on an already OP nation hahaha
You are paying for the stab hit, so it's not free.
@@tortex1still gives you a massive advantage very early and no chance to get any real rivals after you kill ottomans this way
@@tortex1the stab hit is like 200 admin it's nothing
Just started this, thanks for the guide. Something weird has happened, though, I declared on Castile, and France, my rival, is in the war on my side. Weird bug, gotta be.
Do Ardabil next!
Just finished following your Miao game for the memes (I did vastly worse), and now I look for a Mamluks video and here it is.
cloves:p I am in love with this mission tree:p
25:50 wtf?? THE FREAKING SUEZ CANAL IN 1465?
Bruh
If I'm not wrong, the old egyptians had canals like the suez, but not in the same place since things shifted over the centuries.
Wake up bro new Redhawk vid just dropped
The monopolies arent all bad. The coffe one gives +tax in all coffee provinces each time you renew it
Kinda wish mushasha got updated too , but guess paradox can't please everyone 😔
It is historically accurate that the Ismail’is get forgotten XD
Is there a reason to do a no CB war on Byzantium instead of getting a claim?
If you are waiting until 1447 to declare why not get a claim?
I believe its still counted as overseas so you simply can't fabricate a claim on them because you have no adjacent province. But you still want to do it because it stops the ottomans on their mission tree and you are well position to fight them, hence why the no CB
As someone else mentioned, you can't fabricate a claim on a province unless you have a province that's next to it, or that shares a sea tile with it. Your mission tree doesn't give you claims in the Balkans until you've hit the Ottomans a bunch of times for Anatolia and by then they're very unlikely to still exist.
Already two people asked this, just curious do you play the game or only watch UA-cam since claim fabrication is something you have to do in like every campaign ever (real question there is nothing bad if that would be true)
no clue whats going on but i kinda wanna buy this game
Starting with No CB Byzantium is not necessary at all, you could just follow the new mission tree for this run.
Honestly that got me baffled. You get claims on Ottomans day 1, you kill the Ottomans then declare on the Byzantines with an actual CB. No extra AE/WE/Stab hit doing so.
Yeah I tried that many times, and the Ottmans get so strong they can't be beaten. You need to take the Byzantium& Bulgarian provinces immediately
I had incredible luck and Ottomans declared war on Epirus and The Knights so more than half of their army was chilling on Rhodes with no way out.
I would like to see a guide for Genoa
@TheRedHawk fyi, you can give integration policy after annexing and you wont lose 3 diplo rep
Im curious to know why didnt you claim a province from byz? I mean yes the siege speed but is 4-8% siege speed really worth the -2 stab hit? And when you no cb‘d your spy network was on 31% if i remember correctly
With the claim no stab hit + war ex = faster expansion no?
There's no adjacent sea or province to get a claim.
@@vladimirwinnin9662 ahhhhhhhhhhhhh i see. Completly forgot that completly :D
@@JosuaHots Understandable. I prefer the strat Ludi had where you declare on day 1, and make sure to ally AQ to cuck the Ottomans out of that ally. It's a bonus if you subjugate Byz while they're at war with the Ottomans because it's then a defensive war where you can call in your other allies, assuming you have them.
I feel like there should be a -100 opinion for diplomatic annexing a country with a different religion.
Any chance of an England to Angevin empire guide after the main ones from King of Kings?
I cannot seem to get a game started without massive coalitions from PUing France, and your older guides don't have an English Nobility estate at all...
Please please please do a guide for Persia starting as Ardabil
I keep getting stuck at the part where you say "pick whatever agenda is right for you."
In general, if there's not an agenda that gives you something important to your goals (e.g. a subjugation CB on someone you were already thinking of vassalising, or build a marketplace in a center of trade), just pick whichever is easiest to complete.
@@AGrumpyPanda which would probably be developing a province. You can complete that the next day. But going behind on tech doesn't seem ideal.
Isn't it better to feed low value land locked provinces to vassals instead of annexing them?
Kind of reduce governing cost + vassal accepted culture when in a region outside of your culture group? (ie magreb, ethiopia, persia etc.)
18:32 Why disband ships? Every 2 galley can be sold for 30 ducats so 8 disbanded is 120 ducats
too lazy to bother
I hope the AI Mamluks can actually pose a challenge to ottomans now. As it stands, if Ottos have more trouble fighting Venice than Memluks. Whcih makes all games past 1600 just repetitive wars vs Ottomans and it's kinda boring.
No, they won't. In fact, Mamluks are getting anything really strong at all not to mention something to help AI
I don't understand why you chose to no cb Byzantium, it feels like the time to build your ships is enough to make a claim on their provinces.
Bcs there is no province able to be claimed. You have to have a Province adjacent or trough a seatile to be able to claim it. And neither is the case.
@@Stormtrooper_LP Thanks for clarifying.
What's the map mod you're using
Are savegames started in 1.35 compatible ? I started a campaign and am around the printing presse discovery. If not I will gladlly follow tour guide and restart
What does he mean by naming them during a seige to get then done faster? Is that an option from an expansion pack?
Only in my game do Ottoman ally Tunis, AQ, Shirvan and get a Crimean vassal, RESTART TIME POG
Wouldn't Espionage +25 reasons to vassalize be awesome to diplo vassalize even more?
Can you continue playing mamluk ? Please
Do a guide for ardebil to persia plzzz
So You tell me now as Ottomans you can have suez built in eyalet?
Guide how to play Mamluks in 1.36: - capture Byzantine or restart if Ottomans do it first.
That's a great plan, Walter. That's fucking ingenious, if I understand it correctly. It's a Swiss fucking watch.
Thanks you saved me from watching this lol
18:27 Perhaps you should have tried to sell them
I don't have the "Clerical Education" privilege ... But I think I have all of the DLCs?
Should be using starting prestige to placate syria, then take patronage of the arts for more prestige from taking the policy then placate syria again
I wonder who got sponsored to play byzantium 🤔
just make sure your boats don't get stuck in Suez
Can you colonise as mamluks
If you want? Not optimal but could be a fun and off alternate history.
What mods do you use?
Make one for Byzantine
37:53 Also Turkish guy Most of the Mamluk Sultans were Turkic
So tell me why the Hydraulic Rights privilege is not relevant ?
Because you've never developed coastal and desert provinces... , but Mamluks have a lot of them!
Memeluks are OP
Can you Form Arabia as manluks?
Yes, but why would you do that? It would become a pretty different playstyle.
Bro playing without Prosperity :D
I am totally cool with everything up until the no cv war against byzantium. It is a flashy, quick world conquest etc tactic and it does create a really favorable condition for the mamluks but there is an issue... It doesn't work 5 out of 6 times. No matter how meticulously one has prepared everything.
Even if the Ottomans have not declared war up until one starts the no cv war, there are numerous issues. Issue number one is attrition. The army (and it has to be a big one) besieging constantinople will suffer tons of attrition and it will take it a looooong time to besiege the city. During that time the army will suffer attrition and the byzantines and their allies will attack with all they got. Ok sure, mamluks can take that, they are tougher than Byzantium and its allies. However, the problem is that the Ottomans WILL attack. And you will have to fight them after fighting the entire byzantium army along with its allies.
Dude, skill issue. You are doing something horrible wrong. At worst, they got Walachia
If you are that exhausted by war, annex and release. As mamluks, you are basically cut Into from ANY expansion fail proof, recover and decimate them
Posting save?
Will do!
@@TheRedHawk *happy noises*
What if I want to be the Kong of Kongs? Funky Kong.
No me dio confianza que omitiera las batallas contra los otomanos
when does the dlc release
Nov. 6th
@@samstepeck5441Nov 6th in which country? Maybe Sweden?
She mam on my luk till I sultan ate
Should have had the Egyptian religion
Building churches in a Muslim country hahahaha.. This is pure blasphemy!!! I'm kidding you, but when you review a Muslim country, you mention building mosques instead of churches.
Good job 👏🏼
How to check my claims?
The diplomatic map mode should show it to you.
How does paradox plan to make ottomans conquer all their historical lands?
This is nonsense. Ottomans conquered mamluks in just one battle:
Are high or something?
You really really need to play more aggressively and conquer way more than this in 1512. That being said I know your playstyle is not really aggressive and you prefer the chill more relaxed way and I respect that. What I don't understand tho is how it is 1512 and you still did not get the kaffa and damot gold mines, like man they are really easy to grab at the start and give you a huge amount of money that you need to fund your wars early in the campaign. You even fought ethiopia in one of the wars like just get them, also it will help you get more trade power in the Gulf of Aden trade node and you could potenitally trade company the Gonder trade node which gives you a free mercant.
This is literally a guide for beginners man. He plays a lot more aggressive in his other series and especially in his live campaigns, but he literally even says at around 44:00 that you could be more aggressive, but the guide is for newer players.
Do you think sweats are looking for a guide on one of the easiest nations?
mamluks, timurids, ottomans.... who plays these seriously.. they are all to strong and no fun at all
For the power fantasy ;)
Even a strong nation can be fun and challenging to play. For example, if you play very wide, to manage all of your territories and subjects and wars on the opposite sides of the world can be annoying.
Bad players, like me. Or casual players who just want to chill and not play tall or wide
They should start with Lebanon as a vassal, not syria. This is stupidly ahistorical, lebanon already exists, WHY
all fake ..a lot of cheats ..nothing is working like this in the game
interesting coping method
Absolutely mid missions and no update for mid ideas
Mamluks were thrown under the bus
what? Mameluks are now really powerfull
@@oliwierbroda2575name one game breaking thing
Their geographic location is worth far more in my opinion than any CCR ore Morale modifier could be, you can blob in several directions easy without facing any bigger nations and are able to easily deale with the Ottos at the Games Start!
bro you can literally build the suez canal 400 years early. the bonuses in the mission tree are massive
@@milko540 not a one really worth permanent modifier, Ottos have 10 ADM efficiency, eyalets, like 20 ccr and so on
Mamluks have cloves in awful trade node which can never be fully controlled
Ironically, a lot of small rewards they have now is something similar to old Ottos/current Rum tree
there is a coptic path for them?