Horror in Every Color
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- Опубліковано 20 сер 2024
- What do you fear? In this video we will be discussing horror as represented by the five colors of the mtg color pie. Through this lens we will be able to better understand horror in Magic the Gathering as well as the horrors of our own imagination. The mtg colors are a great way to discuss many things and horror is no different. This is the perfect video to watch leading up to Halloween. With the spooky time around the corner it is time to talk about horror in every color.
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for those curious the word that flash up on screen for each color are
White : fear of authority
Blue : dementophobia ( the fear of going insane or losing control of one's own mind)
black: cathisophobia ( which maybe be a mistake cause as far as I can tell it's the fear of sitting)
red:Foniasophobia (fear of serial killers or murders in general)
green: sciophobia (fear of shadows)
I will state this in this comment for clarity. Yes you are correct cathisophobia is a fear of sitting. Was a late night edit session mistake. That said I don't hate it as it's kind of funny.
@@DiceTry that's fair when I googled it I was looking for 5 minutes cause I was like "this can't be fear of sitting that ridiculous."
The best description I can find for “fear of authority” is a subset of “specific social phobia” - like social phobia triggered by specific social situations, and some of that can be dealing with authority figures.
And it can be problematic for people who have this condition. Imagine trying to deal with working life when you’re scared of your manager, or getting through an encounter with police if you’re afraid of them.
@@envysart797 I have this fear.... dealing with police and authority figures of the like for me is an anxiety riddled, panic inducing, nightmare but then I have PTSD from when I was 12 and went to juvie on false allegations x.x
Demonophobia is for Black
I did not expect Green to be the color of Eldritch/Cosmic Horror, but it does seem to fit quite well.
Kind of ironic, since the usual color of cosmic horror in MTG is colorless (things that don't fit into the system of things as we know them) or blue (things that cause madness). But the horror of nature, be it in the form of voracious animals, natural disasters, or even something as simple as being lost in the woods, is kinda similar in the sense that it's all things that fall outside of our realm of what can be negotiated with or controlled, because they have no concept of morality. Green horror is usually about nature overtaking society in such a way that all societal constructs become moot and fall apart. Green Phyrexia, for example, is the idea of natural selection taken to the point where it's basically a parody of itself, a hellhole where everything either preys on everything else or becomes prey, and the law of the strong is the only one that matters.
Come to think about it, the idea of taking the worst characteristics of every color and exaggerating them to the point of caricature is pretty much the basis of all horror in New Phyrexia... I mean, the White faction is composed of religious zealots who literally want to stitch everything in the world into the same pulsating mass
@@astuteanansi4935 Exactly along the line. Green horror was something you could never have accounted for or worked around, and something that you have no hope of resisting or escaping.
@@rileysheehan943 And I think that Green would have the easiest time accepting Green Horror. Like, oh, that's the way the world works? Then I accept our new eldritch overlords. :D
Well I think Green is obliviously the color of monster horror, like wild animals and giant kaiju monsters, it doesn't make much sense to link Green as eldritch horror that defy the natural laws. Eldritch is Colorless
@@D-Boy22 Eldritch horrors are part of a natural system far larger than us, that's what makes it terrifying. Imagine you're a squirrel caught in the middle of a wildfire, that's what it's like to meet an Eldritch horror. You can't comprehend that the burning will make the entire forest stronger and more vibrant. Even the eldrazi serve the purpose of razing a plane, planting the seeds of new life, and letting them grow. They kill planar stagnation and overgrowth, on a cosmic scale they are the controlled burn, the harrowing, the crop rotation. While we're just one stalk of corn, unaware of the grander meaning.
I would say the horror born of white Terrifyies me the most, From the magic color quiz, I am a mono red, but my second highest color is white, but I think the white side is born from a desire to keep certain things pure and protect, something that red can relate to. The horror of white to me is not that you can fight back and you will fail, but that you can't fight back at all! So I guess that explains why I feel closest to the Horror of White.
I think horror of colorless is the most terrifying. Something void of meaning. Void of anything relatable, something that is impossible to understand. Pure nothingness that turns everything it touches into nothing, earising your existence from time.
@@deadded5793 tricky thing about colorless is that in the framework of this discussion there aren’t any “enemies” to give it perspective.
What you’re describing as void sounds to me like the green horror. In that it has no meaning… as far as we can tell. Nothing it does makes sense and its impact doesn’t make things any clearer.
It’s doing something. That must mean it wants something… right? But what? And how do I know I’m not in its way? What would it do if I *am*?!
It’s the kind of thing that trying to prepare for will only make you more vulnerable, which makes you crave the security of knowledge even more as you spiral out of control. And the thing that so terrified you neither cares nor likely notices. And to be thoroughly decimated by something that doesn’t even care that it beat you is the blue-black mind’s greatest fear.
Got a little carried away there but I think I made a point in there somewhere?
@@telefeeb1 Eldrazi and machines
@@deadded5793 as far as colorless goes, Though, the question really comes down to: can anything tied to a color even perceive colorless?
I would think colorless horror is only meaningless in the sense that it is a mirror. It only does what you think it’s doing. There’s a reason each color’s horror was defined here by what scares its “enemies” on the color pie; horror is in the eye of the beholder, so a colorless horror would have to be something *every* color would look at and see *its own* worst fear. Technically possible but I just spent an hour trying to write an example and it fell apart halfway through and just boiled down to asking how each color perceives and responds to those fears. And maybe I’ll write that out more fully but it makes my brain hurt right now
@@deadded5793 as far as the eldrazi go, they are *exactly* what was described as green horror. Almost word for word, lorewise.
Beings that were born before time, outlived countless worlds, their purposes beyond mortal understanding. Blue cannot understand them and black cannot manipulate them.
They only kind of count as all of the horrors because we can see all of the colors react to them as if they *were* those kinds of horror.
They are white horror because they are part of an uncaring system that slated your world for deletion. Blue horror because their very existence and influence destroy the common concept of reality (as in average person doesn’t know about other planes). Black horror because their form and function are twisted and unnatural. Red horror because they are unpredictable and indiscriminately violent, they do not follow any rules and respect nothing. And I already mentioned green. Also of note the fact that eldrazi have appeared in every color identity even if with the devoid keyword.
As for machines: phyrexia. And the fact that all machines have creators and thus can only carry horrors that fit the aforementioned designs.
Yeah, got carried away again. It’s not hard to bait me into writing an essay. As easy as responding to a previous essay with three words.
Red is truly a terrifying color. Because of just how well it also compliments it’s ally’s Green and Black. Black is a sadistic color, who kills purely for pleasure. And Green is a natural color, any horror from there is natural. Wether it’s an emotion or living being.
It all plays so well in the molding of the slasher. Where a slasher could be a notorious heartless killer who only kills for the sake of enjoying themself, or how a killer could literally be someone you’d never expect to have such deep and dark thoughts right down the road
I was taught that Fear is an acronym for Fantasy Experienced As Reality, in which you project the worst-case outcome of an action and then see that as the only possible outcome.
Blue is the scariest for me. The idea that my reality and the reality of the person next to me could be completely different really gets me. The idea that one day the mental illness will win and you can’t do anything but fray into the wind, it’s heartbreaking.
Yeah, I agree. When I'm awake alone at night, my greatest fear is not that a monster will come and get me, but that I will see a monster where none exists.
I've also experienced Sleep Paralysis, and that was the most terrifying experience of my life. :D
and in fact its interesting that it was a scrapped idea in dead space 3: that at some points in coop one player would see something that the other player cant see. Imagine suddenly seeing your friend shoot at nothing while on his screen he sees you not defend yourself from the incoming monster...
When I was young I used to believe that what I did not directly see did not exist. I guess in a way it's similar to what you describe with the reality of the person next to you, being entirely different to yours.
agreed
@@thorveim1174 that’s a mechanic with a lot of potential
White: Helplessness
Blue: Delusion
Black: Sadism
Red: Violence
Green: The Unknown/Unknowable
I'd say that when others fear White, they fear Accountability.
For Red's violence to matter, you have to be helpless against it. For Green's eldritch horror to matter, you have to be helpless against it. For Black's sadism to matter, you have to be helpless against it. For Blue's delusions to matter, you have to helpless against it.
But White is all about helping the helpless, so why would the helpless ever fear White? Only those who prey on the helpless should fear White.
Therefore, White only scares those who don't want to be held accountable for their predation.
If you ask me the eldrazi tap into almost all of these fears and being colorless it would make sense, most people would be unable to stop them making them helpless, they’re known to drive people insane with there presence, apologies I don’t really know what to say about black, they destroy any sense of normalcy without care or cause, and they came from a place of unimaginable horror
What about colourless?
Is that just pure fear like a sudden anxiety attack?
@@pandoratheclayfear of the end of all things
White: Being imprisoned like the Count of Monte Cristo
Blue: Nobody believing William Shatner saying "there's a man on the wing" in a Terror at 10,000 feet
Black: The perversion of the good and natural, like when they killed the deer god in Princess Mononoke and it became a giant avatar of death
Red: The Strangers "Why did you do this to us?" "Because you were home."
Green: Meeting a bear in the woods or a shark while swimming in the ocean.
I'm 18 seconds in, and already I know this is the exact content I'm subbed for. Fuck yeah.
Edit: So for me, white horror makes the top. Being gaslit and smothered to death by someone who thinks they're doing the right thing as they torture people, is complete powerlessness to me. I'll take a demon or a slasher eating my heart over that, any day.
Let me know if it lived up when your done.
Conjures to mind a certain C.S. Lewis quote.
@@CyberDagger003something about busy bodies?
After listening to everywhere at the end of time, the concept of mill in cards like increasing confusion, fraying sanity, and psychic erosion has made me feel more disturbed by the thought of losing the memories that the spells in your opponent's graveyards represent.
At first my thoughts were of Elesh Norn and the Machine Orthodoxy as being the most horrific things in MTG. Not only are they uniquely physically foul, they're conceptually creepy as a religious inquisition. But your description of green definitely matches that for me. The idea of horror in the sense of things which are not only beyond your capabilities to control, they're beyond your ability to comprehend. Things which make you truly powerless.
Has anyone ever introduced you to the cosmic horror that are black holes? Because those are real, and beyond any power of force to overcome. And yet, even they will inevitably evaporate to entropy. A grey universe so uniform that nothing will change. Inescapable, unavoidable silence and conformity.
@@geislar7682 That's spooky. Stuff like that is even better than Lovecraftian cosmic horror in how simple and brutal and real it is.
It makes me want an eldrazi style faction but green-aligned rather than colourless. Natural cycles but on an even larger scale than just planetary environments. The law of the jungle on a stellar scale.
@@Flashjackmak I'm of the opinion that eldrazi horror is just a flavor of green horror, it's an uncaring force of nature, which is part of the natural cycle. The creatures being green or not is kinda of irrelevant, since we are talking about the horror itself, not the creature.
Which of the horror described here resonate with you the most.
I'm a Grixis, mostly Black/Blue, but I love the tactics of my own colors. I left a comment below, I'd love to see a sequal where you do the duel colors, especially the enemy pairings.
The description of black gave me chills
I think green makes the scariest monsters and it’s inherent to them being outside of our understanding. I remember your villains of every color green vengeful nature spirit creeped me tf out too! Nice1 today
The fear of a callous oppressive institution stripping away your dignity, your autonomy, even your very interiority, is a fear that is all too real. Serial killers and torturers get a lot of press, but they are limited by the soft and hard caps of biology and anatomy and institutions don't have to be. Institutions can do their work on a scale often unfathomable to most people and can work across lifetimes and generations to snowball their influence and colonize the fabric of culture. What's worse, institutions can stack their influence with other institutions and intermingle with them, so that even if you eradicate one, the others will ensure the work continues and even make space for it to return. Institutions have the most power to create suffering in this or any world that's capable of sustaining a dimension of social cohesion and an inequality of access to information and power.
I fear the horror of green the most because it embodies primordial forces I can never control destroy reason with or escape from.
This was a fun one. Really interesting to see a new way to interpret the interactions between colors. Though now I wonder what the enemy color combinations fear most.
That's a good idea for expanding this theme in new videos
So you can kinda iterate on what Dice did here by figuring out what each pair agrees on and looking at what the ally pair opposite could represent to that enemy pair.
For example, BG, or Golgari, is the pairing of the circle of life. It embraces all facets of nature and is perfectly willing to meddle in life, death, and undeath, to achieve its goals as they are simply states of being in a much longer chain. The ally pairing that antagonizes it is WU, or Azorious. This pairing is the pairing of sterile order, the pairing of the machine. Azorius in this facet embodies a Kafkaesque wasteland that is not made for living things. It is the computer that is more intelligent than you could ever be, the automaton that levels the woods and paves them over. It is something larger and stronger than nature, that wants to unmake the entire chain.
Another example would be WR, or Boros. These could be considered the colors of heroism. They are righteous and independent, seeking to do good for all on their own terms. They're opposed by UB, or Dimir, the colors of a coldly rational self-interest. The fear that Dimir inspires in Boros is a much more personal one, as it is a fear of oneself. Specifically, your own capacity of doing evil. It's the paralyzing fear that sets your feet in stone as you watch someone wander in front of a moving car. It's the clarity after murdering a loved one in a fit of passion. It's the banal evil of "just following orders." Dimir's horror is the weakness of character you are well aware of but do not know how to overcome, and that is something that Boros cannot stand.
This was one video that I was incredibly excited for when you teased it, and I was not disappointed. Excellent analysis as always, especially how you justified your ideas using the colors enemies as much as the color itself.
Out of all the colors, I fear the horror of white and red the most; the impulses that cause a neighbor or random person to commit horrors, and the horror of white; to dehumanize and imprison without mercy.
Thanks. Honestly the concept of horror being that which the enemy colors fear is something that just hit me as an ah ha moment.
dam we skipped colorless, thats my most feared "color". represents the vast void within, emptiness. it makes the mind run wild with images of what could be there and what it wouldn't be there.
I considered it but wanted to keep this video tight. That said if there is enough interest maybe a short follow up video for colorless would be good.
@@DiceTry I think Colorless works as a mechanic, but not in the color pie. Eldrazi should color pie wise be green, kinda like this video hints. They are a part of the Multiverse, and serve a natural purpose. The only problem in Zendikar is that they were artificially lured to Zendikar to entrap them. (And I still suspect Sorin was trying to save his own plane by sacrificing Nahiri's.)
Artifacts don't have a color pie meaning. Colored artifacts are different, but artifacts don't have a meaning of their own, it's how they are used. Red blows them up, Blue is obsessed, White uses them to build society, and Green hates them.
@@shorewallexactly
Color quizzes describe as white blue, and what I fear most is aligned with those colors. Blind devotion, loss of freedom, mind decay...
Your video is really good, keep it up.
I love how through this examination we get a feel for an aspect of all the colored mana that is not a simple scale of good vs evil. It really shows that none of the mana are wholly good or evil
In some small degree, the fear invoked in one color's enemies also has some influence & power over the ally colors as well.
I'm on the autism spectrum, and I'd say that white is the color I'd fear the most. Since high school, I've dealt with feelings of not fitting in and being punished for the smallest infractions. It often has felt like I'm not even human. The systems that were supposed to protect me have often times segregated me. At times, my freedom was threatened for not following the system. All the while, they've excused others for harassing me. As an adult, I've learned that I can't trust the judgment of my peers or the intentions of those in power. Hell, I've considered the idea that God himself (or fate) conspires against me for some reason. I'm on my own and consider self-preservation my highest ideal. So, you can say I identify with black.
Thanks for sharing this. My son has autism as well. He is only 3 but I'm working to help bring him up in an environment where he feels safe. I hope things are good for you now.
@@DiceTry To tell you the truth, I'm in a community college that is predominantly early college, and live in a small farming town in the middle of nowhere. There are worse places to be in, but it feels like a prison.
I spend my time designing that game I mentioned earlier.
Well I'm glad you at least have an outlet to pour yourself into.
@@DiceTry As for your son, I don't know what to say, but I can promise you he'll find his own thing. We on the spectrum find it hard to fit in, but we are really good at finding the stuff we're passionate about. But I won't lie to you. It's not always something people agree with. Magic the Gathering still has plenty of undeserved stigmas.
Not autistic but neurodivergent. Ableism has long been one of our society's worst sins and it's one that has been one of the most difficult to challenge. I'm glad you found strength in self-reliance, but I hope that you someday find a community that understands, accepts, and accommodates you, or that such a community finds you. You can still be self-reliant, but it's usually good to have friends at your back.
This is maybe one of my favorite videos of yours. Really well written and I agree with everything you said.
Thanks. I'm honestly really proud of this one.
As a Dimir player, the fear that green holds over me is less about madness-inducing gods, and more about unreasoning brute force.
The beast whose mind is too simple to trick. Whose muscle is too strong to turn aside.
The beast that demands you face it head on, and leave your tricks behind.
I think horror of colorless is the most terrifying. Something void of meaning. Void of anything relatable, something that is impossible to understand. Pure nothingness that turns everything it touches into nothing, earising your existence from time. And I think that you confused it with horrir of green.
Horror of green would be a tsunami or an earthquake. Something natural, out reach for humanity with such overwhelming strength it is impossible to oppose it. Or a disease, that carelessly whipes out everything. Not for a reason, but because it is in its nature. When I think of green Horror, I think of a mold that grows inside of someone, mutation them, turning them into an abomination.
Three more video ideas:
One: what would a plane that's centered around one color but properly assimilated the other four would look like and what type of societies would be born from them? I'm referring about planes like the shards of alara but ones that also had the main color's enemies in it and that all four of the side colors mainly help and balance out the goals of the centered color while limiting it's negatives. Like a W centered plane were the positive aspects of each color enhances and add their touches to the goals and desires of W in their own ways while still having enough room to do their own things as long as it doesn't go against the values of W. And that each of the other colors positive aspects, specially the enemy colors (R,B), limit/stop the negative more harmful aspects of W.
Two: Five Planeswalker characters with each of them centered around one color but that also properly assimilated the other four into their personalities and ways of doing things. Basically the same as the last idea but in terms of an individual person.
Three: what would five Wedge colored Legendary Dominarian dragons, like Bolas and Chromium, would be? Specifically ones who's main colors are the enemy color of each of their color combinations. How would they look and what personalities they would have?
I think red is the most powerful one in this line for me.
The idea that anyone is just one bad day away from losing their whole grasp on things, and going animalistic blood rage on you is kind of both unfun to think about and honestly likley true.
Much like the joker said in that recent batman movie. When the chips are down these "good people", well, they'll eat eachother.
imagine creating legendaries based on these concepts
In the modern era, I would associate Green with climate change: a real example of humanity facing the wrath of something older and more profound than ourselves. The wretched majesty and indifference of nature manifest.
Black holes and super novas would also qualify.
Your videos are always making my day a bit better! They're inspiring and show such a great variety in perspective!
Blue also have the fear of what lies in the depths.
Blue also has some of the biggest creatures in magic, usually underwater features.
And green also have the terror we see in Jurassic Park, specially the second one.
I think this is the the greatest kind of terror for this colour.
I think that what you said about green fits more with blue.
I think it's more about how we can't control nature at its core since we can't comprehend it as a whole, only the little bits of nature that we perceive.
@@TheTrueFeleas, that's the point of Jurassic Park.
They create Dinos, thinking they can control them, but they fail.
This is why the Eldrazi should’ve been green
All of them are scary, but the Boros frightens me most. Soldiers, vigilantes and fanatics - people who can't be bargained or reasoned with. Driven half-mad by subjective truths, abandoned compassion, reason and vision for one single goal: death for those who don't matches with their worldview.
White: Dystopian future
Blue: Psychological
Black: Occult
Red: Gore
Green: *J A W S*
I guess my fear would be White, I’m Green and Blue based on the colour quiz, my immediate fear response isn’t as intense as most people I know and being autistic has definitely left me feeling like I don’t have that much control over things on occasion. Great video by the way.
I identify with Blue, Black and Green. Though the horror of white is the greatest fear of mine as I experienced it, and sadly still have to suffer due to the sins of a local hospital and it's biases. This was a fun video to watch, the other 4 horrors seemed like a lot of movies, games, and stories I love.
Fuck, I fear all of them tbh 😅
This got thinking about different horror movie villains from each colour.
White: A Brainwashing cult.
Blue: An amoral scientist.
Black: A ruthless power seeker.
Red: Something hyperaggressive.
Green: A predator/parasite.
Red and black fearing white for its ability to take away your freedom is best exemplified in my opinion by the card “Prison Realm” which is a mono white enchantment that depicts the games most powerful villain, Nicol Bolas, being imprisoned for eternity in an inescapable extra dimensional space where magic doesn’t exist.
Villains from each color:
White: Tirant, evil king, controlling mother.
Blue: Mad scientist, Insane killer, thing from beyond.
Red: Dragon tirant, Sadistic or demon, drunk guy.
Green: Parasite, sickness, gigantic beast, spiders.
Black: Necromancer, undead abomination, psycho.
Great video, have always loved the work you put into them.
And I guess the horror potential of white is what gets me. It’s just so daunting to face and the idea of getting lost and abandoned in the system.
My man just described the Imperium from Warhammer 40k in the first 3 minutes of the video
I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer.
Very true, you can become so afraid that you are afraid to think because it might be wrong.
Your green angle is super interesting. When i went into the video, for green my mind went into fear of losing control of your surroundings. Control is an illusion that only lasts as long as the circumstances allow it to. One random thing like the wing flapping of a butterfly can create a tornado that topples nations. Green reminds us, that in the end, we are not the ones making the rules.
white’s the worst for me. i don’t mind the idea of slashers, love rafting monsters, or, to an extent, the evil torturers going around. (the blue horror is kind of whatever since i can still react with emotions to what i’m seeing or hearing). so i can def say that i’m pretty much just mono red. i do t really get how the blue horror would make a red individual scared
Red: impulsivity/lack of control
Blue: manipulation/restriction
Black: individualism/selfishness/greed
White: Control
Green: Inevitability.
These are the fears exemplified by each color.
Something to consider is what happens when dealing with a horror is of multiple colors, especially enemy colors.
Let's take Blue/Red for an example. How would a horror like this work within the color system? Blues enemies are Red/Green, and Reds enemies are White/Blue. However, like all enemy color pairings, their bridge color is no enemy to them, but rather an ally of both colors while refusing to stand in their way, in this case Black. Here is my theory on how this would work.
Taking from Dice here, Blue wants to mess with your mind, your perception on reality itself. While normally Blue wants to feed on your loss of identity, self, or the delusion of that loss, this strength is pulled from the fears of Red, and with Red being a core part of the horror in this example, this method Blue normally uses is altered, and changed. Rather than inflicting this delusion of identity onto the self, it becomes inverted, and now it's the identity of everyone around the victim that falls into question. The victim is always sure of what and who they are, but are now unable to take anyone around them at their word, after all who could when Blue inflicts its own curiosity onto its victims, calling everything into question and never being able to truly get a proper answer. This empowers Blue's power from the fear of Green, with reality all around you no longer making sense, especially when your own eyes and ears are lying to you, or ... are they just showing you the real truth you could never see before?
With Red pulling from the fears of White/Blue follows a similar path that we see with our observation of Blue. As Dice mentions, Blue & White are dependant on their organizations, structures, and communities. However, they do so with different motives and methods. While White sets these tools up to help create order, peace, and civility in order to promote its values, and hence exert control over others, Blue insteads sets up these tools to instead discover, create, foster ideas, to change the world around itself for the sake of doing so, seeking perfection of itself and the world around it. It's here where the difference shows us how Red uses Blue to bolster its strength pulled from the fear of White. In horror Red is undeniable, it is right there, always coming for you, so vicious and real that to deny it just sabotages yourself. So how does Red use Blue to its benifit? Red here wants to actually leave the structures in place, for rather than showing their inherit weakness through direct action, instead it knocks right on the door, walks right in, and siezes it for itself. This is where the perfection comes in, except its not an idealized perfection that often comes the color pairing of Red/Blue, no instead what we see is the warping of these organizations to show the weakness of its proposed virtues, its empty charity, the lies of peace. These once great structures are remade to instead promote Red's undeniable savagery, spitting its former gospel in irony as Blue reworks everything to Red's benifit.
That then leaves Black, an observer in this. As the bridge color, It can often strengthen both of its allys, however in the case of horror, it becomes apparent that when you pair enemy colors together, you create an enviroment for the bridge color to florish. In this example, we have a horror turning everyone against each other, no one can trust anyone else, there's no one and nothing to turn to for salvation, you can only rely on yourself. It's here where we can actually find a salavtion against an enemy horror pairing: The Bridge Color. Against this enemy, you need an amoral hero, you need a stark indivialist, you need a group willing to slaughter its own friends family and comrades if the need for it is called, you need hero's who are limitless and able to do what's difficult. While the Red/Blue Horror is bolstering itself by warping the goverment, churches, and communities against its own people, by having people slaughtering and warping everything around them, you need a hero who never needed those communities, you need a hero who never agreed with that gospel anyway, you need a hero who always wanted it all for themselves anyway.
When dealing with an enemy horror pairing, turn to the color that is best suited to side with the monster if you wish to defeat it.
( Reply and tell me what you think! )
Interesting thought! This sounds like the start to a great companion piece to this video.
Black or at least what it embodys scare me. I do like vampires and I do like ninjas but fear wise it has always been black. The rest of the color pie I understand. Which is why I tend to float between Naya and Temur stuff
According to online color quizzes, I am somewhere in Jund. And honestly my biggest fears and biggest reliefs are not being in control. Having power stripped away from me, and being brought low is a thought that terrifies me, but so does having power over others, the capacity to make things worse for them, and by extent, being a worse version of myself.
It's an odd balance.
And then there's my crippling phobia of needles, I cry like a baby every time I have to get a vaccine it's wild. They don't even hurt idk why I freak out so much
I love Shadowmoor's halflings as a paranoical society where everyone wants to be a drone with no individuality
LET'S GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO excited for this one
The fears of every color listed
White: loss of morality
Blue: loss of understanding
Black: loss of identity
Red: loss of freedom
Green: loss of reality
I believe how colorless instills horror is combining the fears of all five colors together. Imagine a place that has lost its meaning or had no purpose at all. Inhabited with no life aside from you, there's no escape
Fear can also be what the two ally colors of a color share as fear
I would love to see you break down horror through all the color pairings.
Happy to see more from you!
Hope this one lives up to the wait
@@DiceTry It did for me. I've really been into looking at the wedges from the perspective of being core in the enemy colors since the Ikoria Apexes were centered in the mutual enemy colors of each wedge. 😜
@@DiceTry Admittedly, Snapdax was a bit of a miss for me, but I think it came through better when the Mardu wedge were represented by the humans, what with Kudro's authoritarian hold on Drannith.
Innistrad inhabitants: aaaaaand check, that's it, we have them all
I would argue that you missed the horror of the colours succeeding the horror of their ideals turned to the worst case the dystopia of each colour.
I have a deep center in Red. I fear a cage. A cage that I cannot escape even with all my knowledge and power. To not be able to control and dictate my fate.
Despite being of the Boros colors, the fears of White were just....unsettling. The fears of Red, however were actually scary to me
White and green are the scariest but also most intriguing.
One is very tangible in the real world, while the other is so intangible it goes beyond the life time you can experience. Mashing both together with a sprinkle of blues fear of insanity and it just. Clicks all together.
I think the Otaria blocks did a good job with showing the darker aspects of each color
Pleasant thought experiment or question. Really enjoyed it thank you
While it is in a colour that I do tend to enjoy playing, and one of my best allies, the horror of Red hits closest to home for me. And yes, I normally play Black (and blue, but mostly black).
For me, it isn't so much the fear of the Slasher, but the revelry of the Slasher. For someone my size and strength, my fear isn't just losing control, but more the enjoyment of the pain and suffering that I could inflict, if I didn't have the self-control that I do.
So, yeah. To summarise more clearly, it isn't so much the fear of violence as it is the fear of enjoying that violence so that I may seek it out like an elicit substance.
I associate with the Temur colors, and for me White and Blue are the fears that I have. This video is amazing!
I loved this video it made me aware of my hidden fears I suppressed.
White is the one that scares me. I hate the idea of slowly dying and not being able to do anything about it. The idea of some institution running my life is appalling to me.
W: Insane Asylum, U: Schizophrenia, B: Hell, R: Slashers, G: Cosmic horror
I think red's horror best example isn't the slasher but war. It's immediate and indiscriminate chaos and violence. Finding yourself at the wrong end of an artillery barrage that misstook your house for an ammunition stockpile. Knowing that your town is under siege and just hoping to be lucky enough to not be burried under rubble. It's having your life be dependant on a diceroll, one that you have no controll over and just watching as the result emerges.
I also would have put the eldritch and unknown things in blue considering the vast ammount of monstrous sea creatures the colors have.
Green IMO is then more rooted in humility. Things you can't tame or controll and that will eat you, not of malignant purpose but because it just recognize you as food. It's time that inevitably erodes any power structure, enchantment or artifact. The fear that one day everything will end and come back to nature, that in the grand scheme of things, no matter how much controll or power you have over the world is nothing because that will also fade. Which fits for both its ennemies are obsessed with grandeur.
Green to me is the most terrifying, because most stories with green themes feel like they're capable of inflicting some of the other colors. Thinking that an eldritch horror can rob us of our sanity (blue), murder us outright (red), or even act as an ultimate authority that ascends the laws of our realm (almost kinda like white).
Let alone the fact that just setting eyes on something that was of eldritch nature already would probably inflict a sense of doom or peril pretty easily.
Didnt know that White and Blue are my current fears
Wow. This video was amazing. The color is pie got me into Magic and ultimately what made me fall in love with it. This video shows just how fleshed out the color pie is.
Irl I would say I'm White/Blue so according this Red would be my fear. I wouldn't say it's wrong, someone who murders outside of civilized reason or rhyme does go against my moral philosophy of peace and order. That being said I'd say out these 5 green would probably be my biggest fear. Something horrifying and greater than my understanding, something truly incomprehensible and shatter my perception of reality. In game I play White/Black making me Esper (fearing Red/Green), which in my opinion shows how well made this video is! Funnily enough I have always fascinated by cosmic and Eldritch horror. On a related note Blue and Green horror are similar, both making you lose your grasp on reality and questioning everything you know. Ever since I hallucinate from a fever I have been afraid of them. And to go back to irl I have always thought that if I were 3 colors I would be Bant, so again this makes sense. Sorry to anyone still reading, I ended up rambling and the comment is just a random jumble of words at this point.
First: love the video, subbed and need to check out the rest
This video focuses mostly on what the systems the colors represent create as fears (except maybe red)
But looking at the people that inspire fear that those structures make is also interesting IMO
White: those with some (or a lot) of structural power in a military/bureaucratic/religious hierarchy using the structure and loopholes to cause harm or chase vendettas (e.g. Elesh Norn, all white alligned Ravnica guilds (especially Orzov))
Blue: those willing to sacrifice most anything to gain and/or safeguard knowledge (e.g. Delver of Secrets, Dimir guild, Jin Gitaxis)
Black: those willing to make more than shady deals and commit just about any crime for personal advancement (Rakdos and Orzov guilds, Liliana and her demon deals, most cards with sacrifice outlets/death triggers in black)
Red: Serial Killers (for contrast the structure I think would be one of true spontaneity, where both the good and the bad can happen at any time, where you can follow your whims and impulses, even if they scream "what if you jumped into the flaming void" and there is no rational or structure stopping you or others from going through with it)
Green: those who seek to either reject understanding and return to baser ideas (e.g. Garruk, brought out especially with the curse) or those who embrace it, fiercely defending it (e.g. the beauty based elves of Lrowyn who see anything aside from nature and their perfection as worthy only of indiscriminate destruction) or who spawn cults in reaponse to the unknown (e.g. Evangel of Emrakul and similar cards)
Colorless: What color did you see before you were born? What is the sound of next Tuesday? Picture a completely new color. It is now manifest in the world. It shouldn't. The world refuses. It is crumbling. The Eldrazi Titans are here
That or unfeeling and cold artifacts created as machines of war, eternally damned to fight until they die as we are doomed to fight then
One Flew Over the Cuckoo’s Nest is quintessential White horror
Stax and counterspells the horrors of white and blue
I think a better one for blue would be someone losing themself in the pursuit of greatness. The ends justifying the means, even if their goal is pure... no matter what they have to sacrifice, the good of the world around them, or their own identity
All for greatness
The best horrors i think are when the goodness of each color goes too far
Gonna be interested for Christmas doing pure joy or happiness in each color. Santa claus, easter bunny, and such
Actually, the horror of black could take a different form than described in the video: White and Green share a belief in belonging and community. You are part of something bigger, and usually, that something will be supportive of you, at least if you are contributing to the greater purpose.
Black, on the other hand, is (among other traits) selfish and solitary. So, my interpretation would be that White and Green would have an immense fear of mistrust and loneliness. The utter lack of any reliability.
Imagine a normal social environment with family and friends, colleagues and partners. But you always have to watch your back around all of them. One moment of not paying attention and they will prey on you, sacrifice you for their own advantage. A minimal transgression and they will inform the authorities about you, just to look good. You can count on no one except yourself and never find rest from looking over your shoulder.
This could even mix with the twisted order aspect described in the video: any person you see might not be what they seem, but rather a foul, perverted creature, ready to attack you when you least expect it. Thus, no one is to be trusted. You're utterly, completely alone in a world where nothing is how it should be.
The ones that stand out strongest to me are the horrors of white, red and blue, which I find interesting as I am very much a red, blue, white person, with strong green sympathies
While most of these things can make my skin crawl, the horror invoked by red and black definitely preoccupy my mind more often then not. I don't have a strong fear response to Cosmic Horror or Insanity, and Instutional Abuse tends to make my blood boil. It's Corruption and Capricious Disregard for others which makes me be in high alert. Though I suppose that might be tied to my strong affinity towards White.
Same here. I got Jant on the color pie test, and honestly, the two that I honestly fear the most is still red and black. I'm pretty okay with cosmic horror stuff, kinda like you mentioned, and I get more mad then scared when I read about how people get attacked by a system designed to help. The evil of man and fear of suffering definitely scare me the most out of the 5
I think that if we identify with a color, then we do not fear it. Like a white aligned individual does not fear the system, because they more or less understand the system, and how to make it do what they want, or when it isn't working, how to fix it. A white aligned individual might start a political movement or write to a political leader to bring about change within the system. Whereas a red individual would just lash out and get sent to jail or killed.
I identify with Green, and I welcome our new eldritch overlords. :D If that's the truth, if that's the way the world really works, then I accept it. And I can understand someone freaking out like Red, even if I don't approve. But my greatest fear is losing my grip on reality like the horror of Blue, and I find the supernatural sadistic horror of Black completely repugnant.
I think I would broaden blue, not just to madness, but a fear of things not meant to be known. The whole horror of Frankenstein is that Victor crossed God and Nature and now he and his whole family is being punished for it. We never learn how the monster is made but it is clear that this knowledge that should never have been brought to light. Blue seeks to learn without care for what harm the knowledge can bring about.
In this video you really captured that tone of Aaron Manke from Lore.
White scares me the most. The system is not kind to those who fall outside it and I've never slotted neatly into place, it's left me with a lasting fear of anyone claiming to help.
Blue is The Color Out of Space, White is Midsommar, Red is Friday the 13th, Green is Lake Placid, and Black is Dracula.
I think what freaks me out the most are the horrors of the mind, and the horror inflicted by those that act “for the greater good”.
Two easy simplifications for this one; the first, obviously: Phyrexia. Mono color in it's purest form, with no influence from others.
Secondarily: Magic, without magic. Green's horror in particular makes me think of someone just before they become Blue. Perhaps in the merging from one enemy color to the next is where true 'horror' lies for each color.
What black becomes on its way to white, what blue becomes on its way to red...
That's what seems to summarize these points: Not any specific fear in general.
Cocaine bear is a red and green horror movie villain
I have two major things I am afraid of but at the same time, these two things are connected.
The first one is being trapped physically or mentally and being tormented physically or mentally, I just found the worst thing that could happen to someone being trapped and living forever why you get tormented.
The second one is me becoming a monster and I can't control what I do because of psychological or physical reasons.
I'm totally fine with dying but the possibility of me being trapped forever or me becoming something that I cannot control scares me.
Awesome video. Great stuff :)
I love the use of the wedge colors to deepen the analysis
Today I was thinking about a game I would describe as survival horror if you're scared of; the colour green, Hell, demons, pizza and dead memes.
I feel like there was a wasted opportunity to explore the fear found in colorless, as well: a simple fear, a fear of what is 'different' and unknown.
I was going to but decided to keep it to the 5. I'm thinking I'll need a short follow u0
Love this video, man!!
Alongside my post on autism, I would say I've had contemplations about the horrors of green.
My thought process is that the planet, and nature itself, is a mechanism. Every natural force is part of this mechanism like a cog in a machine. Nature is based around cycles such as the hours of the day, seasons of the year, and stages of life. Everything is subject to the mechanism.
The fact is that we humans are individualistic by nature. We have our own thoughts, desires, emotion, needs, and ideas. Some of these go in line with the mechanism. Others not so much. We want and need things that do nature won't allow for some reason or another. Maybe because of genetics, geography, fate, or just the way people are designed. We spend our time trying to survive in a world that doesn't give a crap about us but expects us to care about the fragile balance of nature. So, in conclusion, WE ARE AT WAR WITH NATURE.
Unlike with white, nature gives us the chance at fighting back. But we will be doing so against overwhelming forces that we can't comprehend. What's makes matters worse is that these forces know us, and can even control us. We are at their mercy.
"Those who fear the darkness have never seen what the light can do"
For me its green as I am blue black through and through.... Also I really would have liked to have seen colorless put in here when you were talking about green and Cuthulu I kept think what about the Eldrazi
I’m 7:50 in and just now realized this is about mtg
This video idea is big brained
I'd have to say that Authority Anxiety & Dementophobia, or White & Blue are my greatest fears among these 5.... Which is truly odd, because of my typical Red/Green Alignment I've always leaned more into Green than Red, but hey this is about emotions and Red is all about Emotions
I thought this video was very well made. Reminded me of the fear entities from the world to the podcast “the magnus archives”
Once I saw the short was very excited for this video
White is the scariest color when taken to the extreme. Elesh norn is a good example she's white but by far the scariest.
Since everyone else is sharing;
As someone who is supposedly Blue and Green:
Losing my mind doesn't bother me anymore. I've already lost it and clawed it back so many times that fearing such an event would be irrelevant. Heck, I still have alzheimers to look forward to.
The green in me is a little different. I'm definitely scared of giant monsters who's mere existence in my general vicinity is likely to leave me dead.
On Earth, that translates to a fear of giant sea monsters, specifically. Weird, considering they're usually blue creatures.
The blue in me helps to make Eldritch terrors more intriguing than horrific, at least until I encounter one IRL.
I have a good balance on the other colors so nothing to worry about in fearing them, at least not in my own aspect of being.
I'm simply cautionary of things like Aggression, Societal Order, and Excess of Ego in others, and avoid anyone who has these traits out of an incompatibility of interaction.
Now that I think about it, literally every person and experience I've ever known in my life fits a part of the color wheel.
Horror in black is having to pay child support