RTX 4070 vs RTX 3080 - Test in 10 Games
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- Опубліковано 4 сер 2024
- RTX 4070 12GB vs RTX 3080 10GB l 1440p
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Bro turn off raytracing next time pls, no one cares pretty much when the game looks the same apart control and minecraft, but framerate is 50% lower.
could you slide a little slower list the list of graphics, please, it is that it cost more to see it in the ninth game
Shadow box on the stats please
4070 Same or Better performance, while saving more than 100 WATTS of power... The RTX 4070 pays for itself in a year, lower electric bill, and cooler running PC.
Hi, what's your pc case?
3080 performance for a 3080 price thank you nvidia.
it sucks i know but nvdia trying to sell power difference not performance anymore. sadly nvidia gone greed.
in my country 3080 price was 850 euro, but 4070 is 650 euro.
@@ImperialDiecast 4070 starts at €750 in my country
you're welcome
Loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool!
$399 1070 was performing like the 980Ti. even the 3070 performed like a 2080Ti. it feels like the RTX 4070 is a 60Ti tier card at $600. Perfromance/$ has moved really slowly over the years.
but loking at power consumption it really did improve with 4 series atleast there's that
It's because AMD isn't competitive vs Nvidia. Nvidia will try to milk out as much money and AMD will follow along too because it benefits them. Nvidia simply dictate the consumer GPU market.
@@lifedroid but 600$ not really, maybe 500 or 550$ might be interesting, especially when upgrade, btw anything in 4070 is decent, just a bit shame that it cant even better than 3080
This could have been the 4070TI if it wasnt for the outcry about the 4080 and 4080TI naming.
also 12GB of VRAM is a complete joke, you wont be able to play games in one year at 1440p
That power draw difference is crazy though.
my 650w will be happy?
@@TheKillerZmile lol nope atleast need 750W
@@mellowmood9 No, quality 650W is plenty... Even a 550W PSU with a strong 12V rail can run both these cards...
In my country indifference for price energy but price for 1 fps is significant!
undervolted 3080 perform similar
An RTX 3060 ti outperformed a 2080 super 2 years ago at just $399. And here we are now, an RTX 4070 performing the same - sometimes underperforming - an RTX 3080 at $599. It can only outperform drastically with the help of Frame Generation, which most games don't even have. What a time to be alive.
Evga did well to get out while they could. They must have seen the 40 series line up and retails and thought yeah, no ones buying those
And how many "normal" people actually got the 3060Ti for 399? The prices were double or triple during that time...
the difference for me is, 3060 ti at leaunch was like 550, and 4070 at launch is 650
Plus frame generation is useless in multiplayer gameplay. One more thing, i think NVIDIA is paying lots of cash $$$$$ to certain companies or people to support them in the UA-cam comments section. To all those people who are trying to back NVIDIA are either paid or complete disgrace. A decent gaming PC cost $3000 in Australia. That's most people's average monthly income before tax. It used to be half of your salary. In third world countries it's no longer affordable to most people. With the so called inflation we are making rich people more rich.
@@danielkral3046 i got it at msrp luckily
The 3080 card you deserved 2 years ago.
knowing covid/crypto era, for this card you would pay 1000 1200 dollars in past, now we skipped idiotic 3000 series and this sounds reasonable , especially for people with gtx cards to upgrade.
@@NostalgicMem0ries Oh god! This card at less than 200W performing like a 3080 would have been the king of crypto. Nvidia did their R&D on these cards during crypto and they thought making power efficient cards will get them a lot of profit from miners but it didn't last!
@@pinakmiku4999 good point
@@pinakmiku4999 Yes frankly most gaming cards even if they sip 400 watts are used for small amounts of time at peak like 3-4 hours /day even for hardcore gamers. So for gamers the wattage issue mainly causes PSU concern. But miners its a different story.
yeah, covid and crypto hit at the same time make it 3x more expensive for us @@
4070 is $50 less than what 3080 sold for 2 years ago in my country. Thanks Nvidia you've made a really big generational leap in performance 🤡
The power draw is almost half as much..
💀
@@yousafe007 its trying to hint on crypto mining efficiency?
What a deal: a 60 class costing double what it should be...
You're wrong.
The price is now significantly lower than the 3080 was during the crypto boom.
Performance with DLSS 3 is about 50% higher.
Power consumption is 120V lower, the card is colder and needs less cooling, which means it is suitable for compact builds.
To be fair, the 4070 is more power effecient. About a 100w less compared to 3080. So if you plan on getting a 3080, get a 4070 instead.
I wanted to see how frame generation works on this card. BTW how's Asuka
@@shahbazsaif5878 frame generation works very well when you turn on, it can run faster than 3090Ti !!!
@@KelvinKMS It is not running it faster. It is generating fake frames that has nothing to do with the game running faster. It makes it look smoother but in reality it is not when latency is higher and you can't interact with the fake frames since they are made by the gpu not the game engine.
Less cores and less memory bandwith.. for someone who needs the GPU for productivity, the 3080 might still be a better choice. Also the 3080 was advertised as a 4K card, while the 4070 is being advertised as a 1440p card. Its slightly behind the 3080 in 4K in that matter.
@@xTurtleOW с рефлекс задержка ниже
If you’re buying a new card for the first time or you have a 1070-1080, 2070-2080 then the 4070 is a great card. If you have a 3070 or 3080 then it’s probably best to wait until the 5000 Series. My son has the Asus 4070 TUF OC and my daughter has a Palit 3070 GamingPro. Both play 1440p on Ultra/High no worries.
Why aren't you my dad 😢
Yeah I need a dad like you,crying with 1660super
surprised your daughter doesnt say WHY DONT I GET A 4070!! lol
@longcomvu2918 me too😂😂
I had 1070Ti for like 5 years and now I got 3080 for 360 bucks in my currency, can't wait..
You'll remember when the 70 series used to be like 20-30% stronger than the previous 80 generation?
Absolutely not.
@@anuzahyder7185 ua-cam.com/video/Z-DccvWdTqE/v-deo.html took me a bit to find a comparison that wasn't with the 980ti, but you can see the 1070 getting always from, and I admit, minimun of 15% not 20, to straight up, 100% in some games like forza. In general the difference was way more noticeable than what we got here.
@@2067792332977602 here u r comparing new games after years. I had 980ti gigabyte gaming n then it went bad n they gave me 1070. 1070 was around 5% slower. 3070 was as fast as 2080ti but u need to keep in mind that 2080ti wasnt even that fast. 3070 was aroumd 30% faster than 1080ti. Same goes for 4070. It’s around 30% faster than 2080ti. Rather than hating on nvidia get ur analysis straight
@@anuzahyder7185 Those are more resent cards. The 2k line of card was pretty much the skip generation where most of who already had 1k card decided to stick with it because the growth was so small. The 3k only saw a relatively small difference to the 2k and same goes for the 4k line compared to the 3k. Oh but the price did not stay linear at all.
I'm talking of the generations when a new 70 was clearly superior to a previous 80, and you bring up the ones where it wasn't, like your reading comprehension went out the window after eating a cyanide pill.
And yeah that personal anecdote of yours would have a greeeeat value, if it wasnt for that if you look up any comparison for benchmarks online you can clearly see the 1070 clearly exceeds the 980 in games by a wide margin except lol and rocket league. How about next time you come with facts rather than "trust me bro it happen to me".
@@anuzahyder7185 he never said 80ti, he said 80 class
1070 beats 980
2070 beats 1080
3070 beats 2080
4070 doesnt beat 3080
Wow the 4060 Ti has a weird name man, that's cool of Nvidia to upgrade it to a 4070 in naming only while charging xx80 prices.
Hopefully the 4060 ti comes with 12GB of VRAM. They should make the rtx 4050 8GB of VRAM, 4060 10Gb of VRAM and the 4060 ti 12GB VRAM. That way its better somewhat but they probably not going to do that and not just that is going to be 400 dollars for 4060 and 4050 is 300 dollars. I can see it already.
@@BladeCrew You are too optimistic. I have heard that 4060 will have 8 Gigs of VRAM whereas 4050 will have 6 Gigs. If that's going to happen then these cards will be DOA. As it's Ngreedia, anything can happen.
which is also quite disturbing, since the tech market should ideally be climbing towards normalizing 4K sometime in the future
instead, it seems entry level is going to be eternally stuck at 1080p (due to horrible VRAM), then 4K capable cards will be enthusiast-level forever and ever
@@cee_M_cee Everyone doesn't live in first world countries.
@@PrashantMishra-kh1xt This is why 1080p is still the most popular resolution. 1440p 144hz monitors are approaching price parity with 1080p 144hz monitors. If budget GPUs had 12gb VRAM even last gen, we'd already be seeing 1080p begin to decline in favor of 1440p.
What settings are you using on msfs?
let this sink in for second; a '60-class' card, with a '70-class' name, being sold for '80-class' prices...
i failed to find a 3080 for msrp for the 2 years of its shelf life. it was always around 800 eur even after gpu prices fell end of last year before 40 series launched and even after that. only now in spring it dropped but thats because people were thinking the 4070 would be better, not the same
Nvidia are greedy and killing GPU innovation. CPUs getting faster and faster while GPUs are stuck…
It's good to see that power consumption is always going down on new cards
thats totally irrelevant...better question is if this is done in silent mode where you cant hear your pc or is this dont with your pc sounding like jet taking off fans
also more vram
@@divacroft1034 depends on the specific model. But that's why the power consumption is highly relevant. Less power= less heat= less fan speed needed
@@divacroft1034 Irrelevant to kids who live with mommy maybe. I always find it hilarious people are crying about too expensive while saying at the same time "much lower power consumption means nothing" It's called an electricity bill mate.
No shit it's been like that since forever and 5nm vs 8nm
Price is also going up so what will power consumption do
you forgot to mention the 1440p resulotion .. how about 4K witch is the 3080 more dedicated to ?
Hi TG, what software do u use for testing and what's the spec of your monitor, thanks!
MSI afterburner with Rivia tuner
12GB VRAM IS THE NEW 8 GB VRAM
bro what💀💀💀
@@idk-fu5bz you been asleep all this time?
Broh nigga wot ☠☠☠
12gb is enough for 1440p or below, just because a few unoptimised turds like the last of us cropped up recently doesn't mean you should rush out and upgrade. Don't buy unoptimised games
@@caribbaviator7058 i heard 8gb is starting to feel like a low amount of VRAM, but not 12gb 💀
2.5 years later and you can get a 3080 with 2GB extra and 100w less power consumption for £50 less, thanks nVidia for saving me money! 3080 will be another 5+ year card just like the 1070 it replaced :)
lol went from a 1070ti myself to a 3080 12 gb so ..... lets goooooo
@@SameBasicRiff That extra VRAM will be helpful later, I took 10GB as it was the FE at MSRP.
It's 2.5 years later and the PS5 and Xbox series x are still the same price.. electronic prices don't go down if there is enough demand for them... Only tech that for sure still drops down by significant amounts these days if you're ok with waiting are tv's
@@SameBasicRiff lol went from 3090ti to 4090
Remember not too long ago 3060ti ($400) gave you 2080 ($700) performance. Good times
Dude your a legend having these up so early!!
just take it as estimation on how recent gpus handle ray tracing
hi, whats the program for see my fps and more specs like this?
it's called msi afterburner with rivatuner statistics
in spiderman, the 4070 12GB loads 1.5 more GB of textures into its VRAM buffer, and gets 3 FPS more than the 3080 10GB
in the last of us, the 4070 12GB loads 2 more GB of textures into its VRAM buffer, but gets 1 fps less than the 3080 10GB
so dont let channels like hardware unboxed fool you. if these new games crash, its not due to vram overflow but due to them being unoptimized and not patched properly yet.
No mention on enabling dlss 3.0 for frame by frame generation? This would help increase frames on the 4070 on cyperpunk and some other games. Which is the whole reason of buying a 4000 series card.
I agree a lot also idk what this guy did for his test but my gpu is a lot closer to a 3080 ti/ 3090 or similar so idk wtf he did
@@J4KE499 alot of people think using frame generation is like using dlss because of "fake frames" and input lag so they dont use it for tests
I didn t get it but i think ray tracing is on in Cyberpunk and yeah dlss would help
The 4070 is not a bad card either. In my country, the 4070 special price is quite common, so I can get it for around $520. I also purchased the 4070, and most high-end games run well.
And considering the heat and electricity consumption that the 3080 puts out in the summer, the 4070 is a much better choice.
Exactly why i am going for the 4070. The power consumption is great, even compared to AMD GPUs.
Yes!
Did you calculate your energy consumption over a year. I do not think so. The savings are laughtable. I have got my 3080 for 300 CHF. So 550 for a 4070 seems very high.
@@DJCREEDHDSQ Did you calculate how much hotter the 3080 runs than the 3070 which then (if you have it) will effect how much air conditioning you use which runs up your bill more which is what OP was implying when discussing heat? I do not think so.
NVIDIA has been making their cards weaker every generation.
I was expecting the 4070 to be a little bit worse than the 3080 Ti, but definitely better than the 3080.
But the 4070 will probably surpass the 3080 in time with drivers.
+
i think the benchmark has frame generation not enabled.
@@ImperialDiecast frame generation isn't a fair comparison. That's like cheating the results lol.
it must be same or slightly faster than 3080 ti
at least power consumption is lower and the same also applies for price in most countries
Just upgraded from 1660 to 4070, its performance is so impressive
They are the same but with different names 😞
Super happy with my 4070 purchase!
What are the venders of cards, MSI, GIGA or Asus?
What is the name of your monitoring software?
it's called msi afterburner with rivatuner statistics
The price might look reasonable but no that is just an illusion.
Basically the 4070 is a 3080 that cost 100$ less (MSRP) but also 100W less for almost same performance.
So not bad, but still expensive :(
and DLSS 3.0 feature for 40 series only.
It is bad, historically we would get a lot better performance for less money. Remember the 3070 matched the 2080 TI, now it only matches the 80 non TI variant.
@@Icureditwithmybrain No. When you turn on DLSS 3.0, 4070 will run faster than 3090Ti !!!
@@KelvinKMS DLSS a feature that is solely dependent on the development team of a game. There isn't a handful of games that supports DLSS. Just admit it, you're sold a lie.
@@KelvinKMS Don't use DLSS 3.0 as a crutch like Nvidia is to blow the statistics out of proportion. DLSS 3 performance is not the same as having those actual frames, and while it is very impressive, it is not enough to sell the 4070, especially considering the fact AMD will make FSR 3 open source and it too will have frame generation, meaning 3080s will soon have that feature too.
I wonder how these tests are made? Do you just set all fans to max speed to show best possible case scenario or run it in silent mode?
He just runs them at stock. All hardware is tested as it is straight out of the box unless otherwise specified.
@@selohcin well creator does not mention it anywhere and another thing is which setting does motherboard have because performance will be very different when sellected silent mode or extreme performance
One is better off getting a 6800XT, 6900XT or a 6950XT.
correct
You can get the 6950XT cheaper than the 4070 here in GER lol
@@Dark88Dragon Here in the US it’s about $50 more than the regular 4070, but some retailers are supposedly offering instant coupons on them.
Why? Why buy cards that can only play a percentage of games well or fully utilize the features of game fully? It's RT solution is mediocre, Graphic rendering 3D tools is mediocre and upscaling is only so so.
Yes
What i like about the 4070 is the lower temps and power draw. Hoping to go for the asus dual fan option as I like that it doesnt take much space and i don't want to have to get a big new case for my pc.
For new systems it is a worthwhile buy probably but for those with 3060ti or + its not worth an upgrade
@@supratimchatterjee825 I'm upgrading from a 1660ti so it should be pretty significant!
@@BVargas78 yea it will be. But personally i dont trust these 12vhpc for the 4000 series.
Thinking going from 3070 to a 4070 but not too sure about how much better it would be
Exactly same thought, and the Asus Dual doesn't have that weird 12vhpc thing, so it's only 1x 8pin which is amazing
It costs me 60 dollars a month to have my 3080 running (about) here in Denmark, so power is definitely something people should consider probably just as much as performance.
Have you tried undervolting it? I can help you if you want. I reduced power draw of my 3070 by 50W without losing any performance. Temperature is lower by 8°C as well.
dam bruh how much u game?
@@lazybeastz182 🤣🤣
I’ve undervolted my gigabyte extreme 3080ti to 80 percent power draw
Runs cooler and performs better
Undervolting is the new overclocking lol
Crazy times
What settings/clocks do you use?
Y'all know something crazy? The IPC from 4790k - 22nm - 2014 all the way to 13900k - intel7 - 2022 has almost doubled but not quite depending on the benchmark. Crazy how difficult it is to increase IPC even when you can pack in 5 times the transistor as before
As trite as it sounds, diminishing returns is a real thing
Seems like the RTX 4070 performs similarly to an RTX 3080. The RTX 4070 is running at 800-900MHz faster with 100-120W less power consumption and 2GB VRAM more, the price difference being 100USD cheaper.
No only $100 cheaper.
$100 less not $200
@@KelvinKMS Yeah seems so, thanks for pointing that out.
good job you watched the video
Add in frame generation n it will be 2-3 times faster
Anyone remember the 980 TI vs 1070?
If you already have a 3080, it's not worth it to upgrade since the difference is marginal but if you are buying a new card, definitely get the 4070 rather than the 3080. Just by power, 4070 already is the big winner here.
@Amstherdam What "nope" ? He is right
If you are buying a new card get one with 16GB of VRAM like a 6800XT.
I would sell 3080 and get 7900XTX which destroys 3080Ti even 3090Ti, 4070Ti as its as good as a 4080 even better in newer games like MW2 etc.
So ask yourself why buy 4070 when you can buy 7900XTX which performs better then 4080 and even with RT its still a beast.
Even an 6950XT destroys 3080/4070 and its even cheaper I think but its slightly slower then 4070Ti but faster then 3090Ti.
Go for 6800XT or 6950XT they have 16GB VRAM compared to 4070 which only has 12GB..
Don't go for 4070's AMD performs better per frames per dollar 4080 is a beast but too expensive.
I personally would wait for next generation where 5070Ti beats 4090 and slightly slower then 4090Ti.
5080 will be $1299
5070Ti will be $ 999 = 4090
5070 will be $ 699 = 4080
5060Ti will be $ 599 = 4070Ti = 3090Ti
So $699 to $999 for next gen GPU against current generation card that cost $1199 vs $1599 ($500 vs $600 difference).
Go for the 4070Ti/4080 for Black Friday sales and the next Black Friday sales go for 5070 or 5070Ti if you haven't bought already.
@@marrow94 People are so dumb they buy a 8-12GB VRAM GPU but as soon as they place newest titles.
Their VRM will be capped as those games require over 12GB + the ratio of ultra settings for graphics vs VRM you get is low.
This is a scheme from Nvidia that people don't realize the fact that they do this on purpose.
For the consumer to buy their higher end cards that has more VRM while AMD gives you 16GB which is more future proof.
For 1080p 8-12GB is fine but 1440p or higher like 4K you will need 16GB and more games are graphically more advanced with newer game engines.
8GB is very low 10GB is low and from 12GB you are good but some new games goes over 12GB and in the future there will be more of this.
Or get a 6950 XT for significantly better performance and 4 more GBs of VRAM for only 50 bucks more... Or a 6800 XT for the same reason but 50+ bucks less...
For an almost similar performance, the 4070 consumes 100+ watts less. It's impressive how power efficient these 4th Gen RTX Cards are.
On all these games Running the
Asus Rog Crosshair X670E hero + Ryzen 9 7950X OC
+ RTX 4070 OC
Both in 2K and 4K I cap at 144FPS in all. With both ultra and max settings.
In intense moments of gameplay where a lot was going on rarely drop below 130.
4070 released at such a weird time for me, since i built a new PC last week with a 3080 in it, that cost £749. seeing that the 4070 I want is going for £679, i've decided to return the 3080 and get a 4070 instead. Almost identical performance, newer, DLSS 3 + Frame-Gen, much better power efficiency & £70 cheaper makes it seem like a no-brainer for me.
Smart move
I get you man, i rebuild my PC 6 months ago and bought a Asus RTX 3080 for 870 euro and now i see the RTX 4070 is being sold for 660 euros, pisses me off how they play with the prices. I'm happy that my card can last me for a few years at least...
3080 only worth it now I'd u get it for about £500 used in good condition
Im here chilling with ROG strix 3080 which i bought for 400€ from my uncle🤟🏼
At the end of the day you can play any game you want because both cards have insane performance
Need help I'm looking for a good gpu to play on a 4k TV my cpu is 5800x
Don't mind buying second hand any advice
Fun fact: 4070 is
About 80-115 watts less power draw. ( closer to 100 watts )
Same performance, same price and about 5 degrees cooler.
Vram usage is about 500-750 megabytes higher. ( tho this might be a error. )
My say on this: Keep the 3080 if you have it, or sell it and buy a 4070 for the better power draw and 5 degrees cooler.
It’s not only about performance, you need to see it fully then say if it’s bad or not. The 4070 would be better if it was 50$ cheaper, but it’s reasonably good if you want a 3080 but a newer generation that has better power draw and somewhat lower temps.
( imagine a 650$ 4070, that be good ain’t it? )
Bro, I got a 3080 for only $400!
4070 needs to be 500$ card
600$ it's ok but for custom it's not
More like $400
Renamed to 4060ti and $450
Hi, please re-do 6800XT vs 3080 for new games in 2023.
I bought my 4070 2 months ago, now that the super came out im pissed
Power consumption is quite impressive however performance over the years has drastically slowed down….it makes sense though how far can we really shrink those pins and connectors 🤔 at this point there will need to be a new technology entirely to see significant boosts in performance.
Might be impressive, but less impressive if you don't mind losing out on 10-20 frames while undervolting. Personally, any frames over your personal preference is a waste of power, I'd drop it till I'm comfortable with performance/power consumption (the 3080)
I hate that a 3060 has 12GB but a 3080 only has 10GB
I have the 3080 with 12 Gb version...
@@fozymilograno Так у тебя ti версия, а он про обычную
@@ProstoMookie nah man there is a regular 3080 with 12GB Vram
How can they release a newer generation 70 level card that isn't clearly faster than the previous gen 80 card? That's never happened before.
Power draw diff
@@patriksz1337 I think this is what is known as 'shrinkflation'. Give less, charge more. In previous generations the 4070 would be the 4060ti.
Because nGreedia
People be like "But DLSS and Frame Generation"
No. Just no. Don't start justifying rip off cards cause some tech to cheat in more frames is present. Normal rasterized performance has to increase decently as well in order for a card to be worth an upgrade.
Somethings up.. I have a 3080 OC paired with a Ryzen 5 3600 and I am getting more or the same FPS than you ??
Great card..3080 performance with 100 to 120w less power and more vram which is great..but pricing is just wrong. This card should be £100 cheaper at the very least.
Got a feeling many people aren't paying attention to the power draw lol
Slow performance for 4070 must be 3080 ti, lower power consumption because its 4060 not 4070
@@raulitrump460 No its not last gen 3070 was waster then 2080 super not 2080 ti
@@BlackTone91 3060 ti faster than 2080 super and 3070 is same as 2080 ti
@@BlackTone91 and i didnt say 3070 was faster than 2080 ti
most the people who don't pay attention to their power draw probably have their parents pay the bills. Even though I could afford a 4090 I wouldn't buy one because those electricity bills soon add up.
The tendency was that the XX60 had a performance superior to the XX80 of the old generation, as was the case of the 1060 that had the same or better performance than the 980, and the RTX 2060 to the 1080, in this case that trend is not met and for that price better acquire a used RTX 3080.
The rtx 2060 12GB was the best one since it has more than enough VRAM for the years to come.
I run my 3080 undervolted, usually around 850mV and 1850ish MHz clock. Can boost memory by 1000. Reduces thermal load, fan noise, and in some games, a slight fps increase.
That said... The stock thermals of the 4070 are impressive and I'd love to see what that card could do undervolting.
Am I going to swap out my 3080 for a 4070? No. Minor increase. Not worth it right now.
Maybe a 4070Ti if it goes on a really good deal.
But yeah, if you're building now, or buying a prebuilt, best to go for the 4070.
From what I know 4070ti gonna perform like 3090ti so it's solid but again price point is crazy
Wow rtx4070 with a lower price you get slightly higher performance and most interestingly a big difference in power😮
I upgraded from a 1070 to a 4070 recently, I know it's not a perfect card and that nvidias decisions can be criticised but man I really do feel the difference in performance :D
Wdym it's not perfect card? It's only the price that makes it look "bad", inspite it's not at all bad but perfect for 1440p gaming.
I only would consider this card over the 3080 for MSFS with frame generation (not even using the DLSS) cause the cockpits instruments looks blurry in all the dlss variant. Please can you do the comparrison putting frames generation in the games that allow that? thanks!
Great comment and I noted that too, thought it was just the Fenix A320. Honestly, Flight Simulator is the only reason why I would upgrade my graphics card and/or computer. Just can't enough of realism and smoothness!
What we don't seem to be talking about it power usage. Its about 100W less for the same performance. That isn't nothing
pretty neat it uses 1/3 less power (about 100W less), gives around the same performance... if just the price wasn't shite it would bee a nice deal
I like the fact that you use Nvidia DLSS in "Quality" mode, but if you are going to use it because it gives higher image quality than the native resolution and higher performance, then you should activate it in all games, I saw how in the eighth game you did not activate it and only left it in native 2k, I was also pleased to know that I can play in 4k with this card using DLSS 3 sometimes in "performance" mode, taking into account the "Ultra Performance" mode
in my opinion they are both great cards but for me the 4070 is the card for me mostly due to the power consumption and also the temperature
Exactly. Everyone here is just looking at performance. However, reducing the power draw by 100 W for the same performance is actually an insane archievement.
tbh, the only reason to get a 4070 would be for the dlss 3 at a budget price if you have a 30 series gpu already.
What's the fps software called, anyone know?
well the 4070 runs 100 watts less and 5 degrees cooler. that even affects the cpu as it also runs cooler. i'd say the 4070 does its job.
200w vs 300w is a huge difference
Is it the same, but 100w less power consumption?
Nvidia thinks frame generation will save its cards
The more I see the 4070, the more it makes sense, yes it lacks true raster performance, but its very efficient, can be found in very small form factors, has good new tech ( hoping FG gets better), sadly trumps amd cards in cuda productivity workloads, this 4070 looks pretty fine, except for the classic rtx tax!
yeah is just that is so expensive for no reason or very shortened for no reason and charged af it was not
I'm with you in this, for people with rtx 2000 and below upgrading to rtx 40 is worth it, how ever not much for the rtx 30s
@@ledexyt4917 I went from gtx 960 4gb to rtx 4070 12gb, the difference is night and day. and the prices have dropped from $600 to around $500. im very satisfied with my purchase.
The problem with the 4070 is that the 192bit bandwidth and 504gb/s bandwidth are much lower than the 320bit 760gb/s bandwidth of the 3080, the 4070 with a 36mb cache and the 3080 with a 5mb cache. The 2mb cache and 86gb bandwidth of the 750ti can't do the same with the 760 192gb bandwidth of the 512kb cache. What's more, when the 750ti first came out in 2014, it couldn't handle the gtx660 with a 384kb cache. Later, after 2020, Nvidia gave up driver optimization for Kepler-based graphics cards, causing the 750ti to surpass the 760.
this aint a problem, most of the bandwidth has gone unused with the decline of the usage of fixed function MSAA modes, and the larger L2 cache on lovelace mitigates the lost bandwidth anyway.
@@Squall4Rinoa So smaller bus width doesn't affect anything?
@@Squall4Rinoa 750ti 960m 2mb cache can’t beat 760 512kb cache
@@Squall4Rinoa gtx660 384kb cache , gtx960 1050ti is 1mb
@@Interloper322I mean the 4070 is preforming pretty well with it, so i guess it's not so important
Advantage of new 4000 generation is only DLSS 3 and frame generation nothing else. Me personally waiting for FSR 3 and AMD frame generation option. If FSR3 works on my rtx 3090 I will be sorted for few more years and also if that work Nvidia MAGICLY will officially add support of DLLS3 for 3000 series.
You would think 2 extra gigs of V-Ram would be a decent increase??
I miss those days when 80 series Gpu cost only 350-400$ msrp(gtx 1080). This is hell expensive. I see this trend after covid nvidia is hiking their price like hell, 700$ cost is not near to consumer friendly cost. And when they are releasing 50-60 series gpu, then most of the Gpu goes to scalper, and due to that, the end customer is suffering. 😢
It started in 2018 with the 20 series. I'll never forget when the GTX 1070 MSRP was $399 and you could regularly get them for $350. It also performed as well as the GTX 980 ti, the best of the prior gen .... I miss it.
@@GOPACKERSJT the msrp for the 1070 was $379
@@Icureditwithmybrain Right, that was for the Founders. I guess I remember looking at the AIB models more.
Hey, guys! Haven't you remembered that originally the "RTX 4070 Ti 12g" was being called "RTX 4080 12g"? So with that respect, this so-called "RTX 4070" appeared in this video should being called "RTX 4070 Ti 12g" right? Thus, the "true" "RTX 4070" still hasn't been launched yet…Lol
0:14 oh my god, lmao
Owners of the RTX 4070 should be reassured by the fact that their card consumes 100 watts less than the RTX 3080...well, at least something.
We need a 4070 vs 6950xt since you can get it now for $600 which is crazy value
depends on the country lmao, its 970$ there
@@user-jj4bv5yk5k yeah he released it just as I commented, watched it already and the 6950xt is def a much better deal.
bro 6900 cards are comparison with 3090 maybe 3080, that trashes 6950. dont compare it to next gen 4070 with best power usage and frame gen.
3060ti was 600eur=700$
@@NostalgicMem0ries dumbest comment I’ve seen in a while.
That 100w difference though.. especially in this climate.
It should outrun the 3080, it does not always and when it does it is likely cheating. The 3080 is the better of the two, anyone who feels the 4070 is worth it, is not too smart! The previous gen 3070 was 20-30% faster than than the previous gen 2080 super. Now it is -5 to a few percent faster for $600, pure ripoff!
So I'll just wait for FSR 3. My 3080 gonna have to work a few more years😂
Hem.... You save some electricity bill? 😂
Buy a used 3080 or a new 6950. Don't give any money to NVIDIA this generation.
I found a ridiculous deal on a pre-built with a 4070, like $300 less than buying all the parts on my own. I think imma get that one, haha
The new RTX 4070 is very efficient because it consumes less than 200W, but if that doesn't matter to you, you can find the RTX 3080 for cheaper used and the 6950XT from AMD consistently smokes the RTX 4070 in most games and it costs around the same. You may also want the RTX 4070 if you want DLSS3 with frame generation, but only a handful of modern games support it.
Only handful of games support DLSS3, but literally every new game will support it. People said same thing for original DLSS and now almost all newer games have it.
but 6950XT consumes a lot more power
For the 6950xt you also need a good PSU, and you need a case that fits triple fan GPUs ;D
@@AlienGurke850w plat is enough?
@@han-sooyoung yes
4070 basically is a BOOSTED 3080 with almost HALF of its predecessors power consumption. Amazing!
Now repeat the test with Frame Generation)
I caved and bought this card. I had a 2060 6GB since 2018. I hope I made the right choice rather than wait for the 4060 to come out.
Did the same, but coming from a 1080. Overpriced as hell, but whatever... I still can return it if I am not happy. We'll see...
ooh y'all got cheated! The card will be absolete within a year
That 12gb VRAM isnt going to be enough to play current gen games on ultra at 1440p 😂
should've gone for a 6800xt/6900xt/6950xt, all new and around the same price or less and perform equal or better depending on which you get. With 4gb extra of vram plus fsr3 is coming out and will be supported by them
@@dabidflor9563 ooof too power hungry (watts) for me
That's a great jump. I went from a 1050 Ti to a 3060 Ti a few years ago
Damn it man i only got a 3080 a few months ago. Guess i should have waited.
Your 3080 is practically a 4070, not sure why you should have buyers remorse because of that.
@@bu5094 Because its cheaper, consumes 100w less power, has newest dlss 3.0.
@@theoriginals9821 lol yes this.
@@theoriginals982130 series can use dlss 3 devs need to implement it just cannot do frame gen
why they never test first person shooter frames
Similar performance but 100W less on rtx 4070. This card should be cheaper about 100$ and Will be Best middle end card.
Idk man, it's good that it's using 100 watts less but I think letting it have ab extra 50 watts would have made it much better and worthy of being 70 series card.
most likely diminishing returns. These cards don't overclock at all.
you'll save money on your electricity bill using a 4070 so you can reclaim the difference
@@fwef7445only if you game 10 hours a day, everday, for 4 years
I was planning to get rtx 4070 to replace my old gtx 1080.wonder if i make a good decision or not
same man same. but i think we will see 5k series in 1 year so.
also me
I have the 4070, and its worth it! great gpu
A used 3080 is going for 300-400 rn and that’s pretty much half the price of a 4070 so it seems more appealing
Since 4070 price is 600$, Nvidia should cut price 4070 Ti to 700$, and release another 4070 Ti with 16GB vram for 800$.
4070ti is 20% faster than 4070. Why would anyone pay $100 less for 20% less performance that you suggest????
If you already have a 3080, stay on it till 5th or maybe 6th gen, if you plan on buying 3080 now, go for 4070. 100W less than 3080 and DLSS 3.0!
Is this a gimped gpu?
@@fynkozari9271 What do you mean?
There's barely any performance gain from 3080 old gpu.
if the 4070 was a 4060ti, itd have been excellent
If you’re worried about the 3080 power draw you can undervolt it. I’ve got mine running at 200w whilst being over locked by 1300mhz
I think the 4070 is more improved with newer drivers, I see lags like 9-12ms with newer drivers in Harry Potter
TDP 4070 is impressive
Not too bad I guess, considering the 4070 does draw 100W less and runs a bit cooler compared to the 3080
Sure
nah the 3080 12gb is same watt and faster in every way
In my country, Both got same price now. Which one do you think i need to buy?
4070