In case anyone hasn't already mentioned this, the theme song as shown in the video is not the theme that was attached to the original TV broadcasts. It's a replacement that was created for the DVD's and streaming services. The opening theme song originally created for the show has a very different beat, and laid out the basic premise with its lyrics. ua-cam.com/video/G4F-nlT8IwI/v-deo.html
when i got the dvd i was that is not the theme i remember from the series when it was on tv. this wasn't the first time Fox broadcasted episodes out of order as they did the same thing to Firefly. when it came to ratings whoever thought Friday afternoons during football season to broadcast a kids show at Fox Kids must have wanted to intentionally tank the show from day one. early on it looked like maybe better writing could have savaged the story like a movie with budget instead of a live action series. the second half of the season looks like all the mistakes in the time slot and bad acting in for the first half forces producers and writer to find anything that might save the series. i think the strange suits for certain members of the foot clan was to show different ranks of foot soldiers, but ended up being more ridiculous as it ended up being more like the Green Ranger shield in the American fotage in Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. if they would not have went so overboard with puns and worst turtle humor and not strayed from the pizza diet maybe fans would have come after football season was over.
I remember I had this on vhs when I was a kid and was confused by how the turtles acted but the hole on their faces annoyed but I chalked it up to thinking the holes were just their nostrils.
Was going to mention that. I remember when I was scrolling through Netflix and saw this, turned it on and was like “wtf is this music!? This isn’t the theme I remembered…”
It wasn't even just the sound effects, it was the sheer frequency that they got used with. None of the characters could so much as take a step without triggering them.
They are complete idiots and assholes in that also Leo is the worst character in the whole show. The Power Rangers crossover was the only time those version of the TMNT to have their proper personalities
Despite Saban being involved, none of the regulars involved with PR were involved with production. It's very apparent in the fight scenes. They just have no idea how to act and shoot people with clumsy suits on.
I watched this show as a kid when it first appeared. At the time I remember digging it. But for the life of me I can't remember a single episode's plot besides the Power Rangers team up and Venus showing up
I always took "next mutation" as like "extreme" or similar like how a lot of 90s/early 00s things would be. Like "extreme Ghostbusters" or "extreme dinosaurs"
Remember watching all these episodes after school on fox kids. The bandana change really bothered me and then every episode I was like please get better... then venus... then death of shredder and tmnt... until the 2000's animated series brought back tmnt.
I grew up watching this show on Netflix back when they had a bunch of Saban and CBS stuff. I watched this, the incredible hulk tv show, VR Troopers, and Beetleborgs like CRAZY in like 2011/2012 or so. Honestly would love to see your take on some of that metal hero stuff turned saban shows (mainly B-Fighter - Beetleborgs)
You comment about it not looking like they're in the sewers; Since Next Mutation is in the Movie-verse, they AREN'T in the sewers, they're the abandoned Subway they find in TMNT2, which was still their base in 3 as well. So on this part, I don't see the issue with their base looking like that.
The biggest mistake they made was airing this series a year after the 1987 series ended; that was a huge mistake, as people were going to automatically bash the show for following up a much better one so quickly.
I was waiting for you to mention the censored version Hero Turtles:Next Mutation with its more catchy theme tunes cant remember the lyrics fully but something 'oh 4 green Turtles heard the news, found on the floor raised by a rat now there hero's how about that, check it out another one found, made her way to china town, with the rest erh that makes 5, hero Turtles come alive, nah nah nah nah' edit: just looked up the intro, my memory of this wasn't to had for something I haven't heard since it aired.
Saban already had a show not get a second season Masked Rider and would go on a get another to have only one season Mystic Knights the very next year. three in four years.
i remember the theme song being different. something like "na na na na ninja, ninja turltes" but maybe I'm remembering wrong. but yeah this show sucked but i loved the Powerrrangers crossover as a kid.
there are a million things to complain about with this show. obviously. BUT one of your complaints is about to un-stealthy vehicles?! in the other shows, they have crazy kitted out assault vans, motorcycles, jet powered skateboards, one-seater jets, gliders, and a giant blimp. and more. I think the vehicles are the one thing you actually can't complain about in this show. 😂😂😂😂
Did you notice how many shots they use over and over and over again? They use "grab weapons from wall, get into cars, and drive over the bridge at night" scenes a million different times. Definitely Saban trying to reuse footage to save money. Plus the use of all puppets or people with covered faces would have made it very easy to dub and sell to international markets. Saban going global once again.
Well I'm sure I'm not the first to point out but that's not the actual theme tune used when it originally aired but the new version for the more recent dvd release. The original isn't much better but still better than this version.
i've always been partial to the theory that Saban purposely screwed it up out of spite towards the TMNT property. Venus is honestly a bit over hated, but she doesn't really do anything so i'm not sure why she's so hated by the fans.
A girl turtle isn't bad since the iDW comics had one girl be one and she dons yellow. Heard she is ok. Good ideas can happen when written better and venus isn't bad since it opens up magic in the tmnt universe.
Like everyone is saying, and I wish the content creator would’ve researched this prior to creating this video, the theme music is NOT the original music when the show aired originally. The license expired and a different song is used in its current streaming form.
Sorry sending a like and watching but not watching..... I don't need any further fall into darkness especially after I found put what the 4th movie would have been!!!!!!!
i remember being a fan of the 80’s cartoon and the 2003 cartoon as a kid, so i picked up a video of a couple episodes of TNM from a charity shop. even at like age 6 i despised this show. truly boring and awful
10:03 funny thing about your comment is that they were planning on switching Leo's color to yellow so there wasn't any confusion with Venus, static.wikia.nocookie.net/tmnt/images/f/f9/Yellowleo.png/revision/latest?cb=20140212032532 It was in some early promo videos and in the opening theme (until they changed the color of the head band in post production but didn't bother for the straps in the knee and elbow pads)
This show is only reelvant in 2 contexts. As something...EXISTS in the TMNT franchise and that crossover episode with Power Rangers In Space.
Yeah that’s the only reason why I ever heard of the show was from that stupid crossover. lol
Three context actually, it’s the second turtles TV series
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In case anyone hasn't already mentioned this, the theme song as shown in the video is not the theme that was attached to the original TV broadcasts. It's a replacement that was created for the DVD's and streaming services.
The opening theme song originally created for the show has a very different beat, and laid out the basic premise with its lyrics.
ua-cam.com/video/G4F-nlT8IwI/v-deo.html
when i got the dvd i was that is not the theme i remember from the series when it was on tv. this wasn't the first time Fox broadcasted episodes out of order as they did the same thing to Firefly. when it came to ratings whoever thought Friday afternoons during football season to broadcast a kids show at Fox Kids must have wanted to intentionally tank the show from day one. early on it looked like maybe better writing could have savaged the story like a movie with budget instead of a live action series. the second half of the season looks like all the mistakes in the time slot and bad acting in for the first half forces producers and writer to find anything that might save the series. i think the strange suits for certain members of the foot clan was to show different ranks of foot soldiers, but ended up being more ridiculous as it ended up being more like the Green Ranger shield in the American fotage in Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. if they would not have went so overboard with puns and worst turtle humor and not strayed from the pizza diet maybe fans would have come after football season was over.
I remember I had this on vhs when I was a kid and was confused by how the turtles acted but the hole on their faces annoyed but I chalked it up to thinking the holes were just their nostrils.
You know what would be hilarious if there was a Sentai show in Japan that uses American footage of the turtles as their rangers.
Ehh well there was that anime tmnt series……yes that real thing even got a manga
That theme tune is actually the DVD version. The original was a rap number
Deleted my comment I was wrong, why the hell did they change the theme XD
@@madhattermikey licences expired I believe
Was going to mention that. I remember when I was scrolling through Netflix and saw this, turned it on and was like “wtf is this music!? This isn’t the theme I remembered…”
Part of the problem with this Turtles series was all the weird sound affects they used on the show.
It wasn't even just the sound effects, it was the sheer frequency that they got used with. None of the characters could so much as take a step without triggering them.
Yeah, seeing Phelous’s reviews on the series, it was pretty horrendous. The TMNT don’t even act like themselves.
They are complete idiots and assholes in that also Leo is the worst character in the whole show. The Power Rangers crossover was the only time those version of the TMNT to have their proper personalities
“🎵I hate Splin-ter!🎵”
Despite Saban being involved, none of the regulars involved with PR were involved with production. It's very apparent in the fight scenes. They just have no idea how to act and shoot people with clumsy suits on.
I watched this show as a kid when it first appeared. At the time I remember digging it. But for the life of me I can't remember a single episode's plot besides the Power Rangers team up and Venus showing up
While Venus was kind of annoying, she was probably the least insufferable character in the show.
Yeah it is pretty clear based on Phelous’s videos.
Know what sucks? Actors from Ocean Dub played in this.
Matt Hill should have been Mikey, but hey, that's just me.
I always took "next mutation" as like "extreme" or similar like how a lot of 90s/early 00s things would be. Like "extreme Ghostbusters" or "extreme dinosaurs"
Speaking of pink rangers, in the new Sentai series, avataro Sentai Donbrothers, the pink ranger is a male character
Would love to see a video of how you would’ve written the next mutation
the only good thing i remember from this was the hunter villain played by Scott McNeil.
I was gonna for like a couple of days and your hair is purple.... love it
Nothing says ninja than a giant bilmp that says turtles
Remember watching all these episodes after school on fox kids. The bandana change really bothered me and then every episode I was like please get better... then venus... then death of shredder and tmnt... until the 2000's animated series brought back tmnt.
I was JUST thinking about this show tonight
What??
Are we not going to acknowledge that there was a second version of the theme song
I grew up watching this show on Netflix back when they had a bunch of Saban and CBS stuff. I watched this, the incredible hulk tv show, VR Troopers, and Beetleborgs like CRAZY in like 2011/2012 or so. Honestly would love to see your take on some of that metal hero stuff turned saban shows (mainly B-Fighter - Beetleborgs)
There was a different theme which was a lot better though. That’s the one I remember
Time for a squid pot pie and dolphin.. sauce? BLEGH!
Was shot in Canada to save money
You comment about it not looking like they're in the sewers; Since Next Mutation is in the Movie-verse, they AREN'T in the sewers, they're the abandoned Subway they find in TMNT2, which was still their base in 3 as well. So on this part, I don't see the issue with their base looking like that.
Yeah, but have you seen the Subway tunnels in NYC? Shits just as disgusting as the sewers are. NYC is just gross in general
The biggest mistake they made was airing this series a year after the 1987 series ended; that was a huge mistake, as people were going to automatically bash the show for following up a much better one so quickly.
Guilty Pleasure
Very guilty
i'm unfortunately nostalgic to this show thanks to jetix airing it when i was a kid
not the actual theme song
Tang Shen remind me of Maria robotnik
That’s not the original theme
the alternative na na na na ninja intro wasnt much better eather ;P
I was waiting for you to mention the censored version Hero Turtles:Next Mutation with its more catchy theme tunes cant remember the lyrics fully but something 'oh 4 green Turtles heard the news, found on the floor raised by a rat now there hero's how about that, check it out another one found, made her way to china town, with the rest erh that makes 5, hero Turtles come alive, nah nah nah nah' edit: just looked up the intro, my memory of this wasn't to had for something I haven't heard since it aired.
Actually, Next Mutation has an even *worse* theme song.
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That’s exactly what they probably did. I recognized it from the second and 3rd movies.
Do you mean the only saban show not to get more than one season or the only tmnt show not to get more than one season?
TMNT
@@PomeloRetro ah
Saban already had a show not get a second season Masked Rider and would go on a get another to have only one season Mystic Knights the very next year. three in four years.
i remember the theme song being different. something like "na na na na ninja, ninja turltes" but maybe I'm remembering wrong. but yeah this show sucked but i loved the Powerrrangers crossover as a kid.
No mention of Scott McNeil's character? Bonesteel was the best part of the show
Why was there no April in this version?
That's not the intro I remember? Is it different as it went on?
Apparently so.
I am the first! Pomelo Retro channel is the best!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ninja and shinobi are the same thing.
there are a million things to complain about with this show. obviously.
BUT one of your complaints is about to un-stealthy vehicles?!
in the other shows, they have crazy kitted out assault vans, motorcycles, jet powered skateboards, one-seater jets, gliders, and a giant blimp. and more.
I think the vehicles are the one thing you actually can't complain about in this show. 😂😂😂😂
I remember watching one episode when I was roughly about nine or ten in the UK. Even as a kid I knew this show sucked.
Did you notice how many shots they use over and over and over again? They use "grab weapons from wall, get into cars, and drive over the bridge at night" scenes a million different times. Definitely Saban trying to reuse footage to save money.
Plus the use of all puppets or people with covered faces would have made it very easy to dub and sell to international markets. Saban going global once again.
Well I'm sure I'm not the first to point out but that's not the actual theme tune used when it originally aired but the new version for the more recent dvd release. The original isn't much better but still better than this version.
Their lair is recycled from movie 2 and is not the sewer
The idea was good.
The execution was bad.
That's all
Animation was Saban's specialty. Sorry for so many comments like this.
i've always been partial to the theory that Saban purposely screwed it up out of spite towards the TMNT property. Venus is honestly a bit over hated, but she doesn't really do anything so i'm not sure why she's so hated by the fans.
A girl turtle isn't bad since the iDW comics had one girl be one and she dons yellow. Heard she is ok. Good ideas can happen when written better and venus isn't bad since it opens up magic in the tmnt universe.
Sadly it was Margaret Loesch the head of Fox Kids who told them to make it a woman.
Like everyone is saying, and I wish the content creator would’ve researched this prior to creating this video, the theme music is NOT the original music when the show aired originally.
The license expired and a different song is used in its current streaming form.
Sorry sending a like and watching but not watching..... I don't need any further fall into darkness especially after I found put what the 4th movie would have been!!!!!!!
i remember being a fan of the 80’s cartoon and the 2003 cartoon as a kid, so i picked up a video of a couple episodes of TNM from a charity shop.
even at like age 6 i despised this show. truly boring and awful
Um.. Shinobi is not specifically male.. Where TF you get your info?
The Dictionary
@@PomeloRetro which one?
@@PomeloRetro Because it's false
Shinobi is just another word for ninja, it has nothing to do with gender.
10:03 funny thing about your comment is that they were planning on switching Leo's color to yellow so there wasn't any confusion with Venus,
static.wikia.nocookie.net/tmnt/images/f/f9/Yellowleo.png/revision/latest?cb=20140212032532
It was in some early promo videos and in the opening theme (until they changed the color of the head band in post production but didn't bother for the straps in the knee and elbow pads)