The country where all public transit is free

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  • Опубліковано 20 сер 2024
  • From March 1st 2020, Luxembourg will have free public transit throughout the country: you'll be able to travel on buses, trains, trams, and that one funicular railway without a ticket. It sounds like a good idea: but is it?
    Edited by Michelle Martin / @onthecrux
    Thanks to Leonard French at Lawful Masses for holding the camera out on the Casemates: / @lawfulmasses
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 4 тис.

  • @TomScottGo
    @TomScottGo  4 роки тому +7278

    This is why I was unexpectedly passing through Schengen a few weeks back!

  • @wolframstahl1263
    @wolframstahl1263 4 роки тому +9269

    This guy speaks English, but his German accent has a French accent. It's really fascinating to listen to him.

    • @SpeedOfTheEarth
      @SpeedOfTheEarth 4 роки тому +298

      Agreed, as a german I also like this peculiar accent!

    • @mananasi_ananas
      @mananasi_ananas 4 роки тому +490

      Well they speak 3 languages in Luxembourg:
      French, German and Luxembourgish. I believe Luxembourgish is a lot like German and French (correct me if I'm wrong)

    • @leondarcy7367
      @leondarcy7367 4 роки тому +536

      @@mananasi_ananas Luxembourgish is close to German (same structure/syntax etc, basically a dialect), but with hundreds of French words mixed into it

    • @okuno54
      @okuno54 4 роки тому +105

      Luxembourgish is a really fun language!

    • @nitehawk86
      @nitehawk86 4 роки тому +338

      Tom sounds fairly British to me.

  • @Cossieuk
    @Cossieuk 4 роки тому +8219

    A free train being cancelled and being late for work is slightly better than the one that I have paid for being cancelled and me be late for work

    • @Burnthesof
      @Burnthesof 4 роки тому +144

      Yes but 4€ doesnt matter that much.
      4€ vs free but unreliable makes no difference for me.
      I need to know that I get where I need to be when I need to be there. The Luxembourg transport is way to unreliable to use even if free.

    • @scottmcintyre2809
      @scottmcintyre2809 4 роки тому +711

      @@Burnthesof While true for you, as Tom pointed out, there are people for whom that 4€ might mean the difference between eating lunch that day or not. Ideally everyone would be in a position to think 4€ was an insignificant burden, but until we can fix that part of society, removing that burden from those people is a good thing.

    • @Cossieuk
      @Cossieuk 4 роки тому +214

      @@Burnthesof If its free and bad that is what I expect, when I have to pay for it and it just as bad that is much worse. Given the state of public transport in the UK, I would not complain about it if it was free, the fact it is as bad as it is given what I have to pay that is a reason to complain

    • @kayleightjuh1
      @kayleightjuh1 4 роки тому +55

      @@johnperic6860 actually we just got a national 2,5% pay rise, on tax rise is on petrol/diesel

    • @jandresshade
      @jandresshade 4 роки тому +52

      it amazes me how other countries have this kind of public transport, in my country, there is not even a national train system and the public transport can take 2 to 3 hours in a trip than in comparison takes 20 - 30 minutes walking

  • @SamPearman
    @SamPearman 4 роки тому +2089

    One of the things I find exceptional about trains in Japan is that when your train is late, you can pick up a little late slip as you get off the train that to the nearest 10 minutes says how much you were delayed, and workplaces accept them as a proof of the delay not being your fault.
    If you try to arrive at work on time and then the train is 45 minutes late, then oh well, you just start work 45 minutes later that day. It's fantastic. If a train is late or unreliable, then it doesn't worry you nearly as much. This also means that the train network has pressure from businesses and by extension local government to operate well.
    The other thing of course, is that your workplace has to pay you back for your trains to and from work every month.

    • @karakaaa3371
      @karakaaa3371 2 роки тому +172

      I think that speaks more to the employers rather than the transit. In America even if you have a late slip or sick note employers would still blame you

    • @stevenbobbybills
      @stevenbobbybills 2 роки тому +158

      @@karakaaa3371 Japan's work culture is entirely different. They're also usually expected to work longer hours and also often more overtime.

    • @munkle1732
      @munkle1732 2 роки тому +23

      There's also a lot of sexual assault on Japan's public transport

    • @sqrtof81
      @sqrtof81 2 роки тому +51

      You can pick up a proof of delay slip in a lot of European countries too. If the employers accept it is another question though.

    • @stanislavkostarnov2157
      @stanislavkostarnov2157 Рік тому +35

      @@sqrtof81 for that part, my understanding is they legally have to accept it... it is one of the labor laws. same with the payment for the journey fare, which is usually rather significant
      the other side of the coin however, is that the employer can tell you where to live, or transfer you from one city to another, and that is the norm. it is also legal to employ only people from a certain neighborhood, this is why certain parts of Japanese cities have a super-high population density, whilst others are relatively empty...

  • @francesgardner7070
    @francesgardner7070 4 роки тому +6569

    “Okay” in European standards is “incredible” in American. Those trains look clean and they look like they don’t smell of piss. I’m jealous

    • @infirmux
      @infirmux 4 роки тому +593

      I'd say it's a more negative statement about US, rather than positive about LU ;).

    • @SoloTravelerOffTheBeatenPath
      @SoloTravelerOffTheBeatenPath 4 роки тому +273

      Because nobody rides trains in the US. It's a massive continent of a country. The only reasonably fast way to cross these great distances is to fly. Not to mention American car culture is huge. I don't get how people don't understand this.

    • @ironmantis25
      @ironmantis25 4 роки тому +816

      @@SoloTravelerOffTheBeatenPath In New York there is vast public transit system called the MTA. The problem is that it's dirty, smells like piss, common delays and the fares keeps going up.

    • @themoviedealers
      @themoviedealers 4 роки тому +492

      @@SoloTravelerOffTheBeatenPath We're not talking about long distance train travel, we're talking about trains for people commuting to work from outlying areas. We do have them in (I would say) the ten largest cities, but smaller cities than that are just screwed.

    • @krisdoesart9643
      @krisdoesart9643 4 роки тому +86

      polifatts I've seen this exact reply on multiple comments, you're just copying that statement for any comment talking about American transit

  • @MajorTanya
    @MajorTanya 4 роки тому +5427

    I'm really impressed that you got the Deputy Prime Minister / Minister for Mobility and Public Works for your video 😮
    And it's a really nice video too

    • @sundhaug92
      @sundhaug92 4 роки тому +975

      OTOH, it's Luxembourg, Tom has a few times more subscribers than it has population

    • @ampelmann2003
      @ampelmann2003 4 роки тому +92

      sundhaug92 What does the number of his subscribers entitle him to?

    • @janzacharias3680
      @janzacharias3680 4 роки тому +537

      @@ampelmann2003 Popularity-backed trustworthiness?

    • @ampelmann2003
      @ampelmann2003 4 роки тому +22

      Jan Zacharias because everyone with popularity is trustworthy

    • @thryduulf
      @thryduulf 4 роки тому +55

      @@ampelmann2003 *cough* Donald Trump *cough*

  • @viperhalberd
    @viperhalberd 4 роки тому +3509

    There's an irony in someone named "Carr" advocating for public transport.

    • @bigmonarch6561
      @bigmonarch6561 4 роки тому +38

      Ever see a comment with a lot of likes and have the urge to leave a comment?

    • @kdvr766
      @kdvr766 4 роки тому +5

      Why is that ironic? Arent taxis car?

    • @MannyJazzcats
      @MannyJazzcats 4 роки тому +114

      @@kdvr766 taxis are not public transport

    • @erkinalp
      @erkinalp 4 роки тому +5

      @@MannyJazzcats Taxis are legally considered public transport.

    • @joelonsdale
      @joelonsdale 4 роки тому +7

      Yes, if you are Alanis Morrisette.

  • @25luisky
    @25luisky 3 роки тому +337

    As a civil engineer in Luxembourg, I can tell you that if a train is late is most of the time due to works that are taking place on the luxembourguish train lanes, or train stations that are being increase. Luxembourg is investing a lot on new infrastructures and at the moment is in real good progress. Only in few years we will see and feel the result of those investements

    • @NoNameAtAll2
      @NoNameAtAll2 Рік тому +13

      how's it going?
      I'd love to read an update a year later

    • @HDTomo
      @HDTomo Рік тому +1

      me too give an update

  • @someone-fw2lv
    @someone-fw2lv 3 роки тому +267

    That bloke from the Government is Luxemburg in one image: French accent, with german ways of speaking (individual mobility is a direct translation of Individualverkehr).

    • @lonestarr1490
      @lonestarr1490 3 роки тому +18

      I like that very much about Luxembourg. Even if it's silly it makes me assume that Luxembourg, somehow, combines all the positives of France and Germany without the negatives of either.

    • @yagi3925
      @yagi3925 Рік тому +6

      French accent? No, his accent is typically Luxembourgish. I'm familiar with Luxembourg, I can identify their accent in German, in French and English. It's highly typical.

    • @b43xoit
      @b43xoit Рік тому

      I was surprised at all the signs in French. I thought Luxembourgers spoke Luxebourgish.

    • @majy1735
      @majy1735 Рік тому +2

      @@b43xoit Yes, they mainly *speak* Luxembourgish (although all of them also know French and German) but public information is mostly posted in French (and German).

    • @AnglosArentHuman
      @AnglosArentHuman Рік тому +2

      @@majy1735 One of my cousins took a tip to Europe in '98 and briefly went through Luxembourg, bought a newspaper while he was there. Most of it was in German, the entertainment section was in French and there was a page with a crossword puzzle and comic strips in Luxembourgish.

  • @juwulia_
    @juwulia_ 4 роки тому +3446

    Luxembourg: The only country where people speak english with a French, German, Belgian and Dutch accent at once.

    • @jayxi5021
      @jayxi5021 4 роки тому +184

      I don't know if that's a joke but we speak english, luxembourgish, german and french (and a lot of people speak even more languages because of their origin, lots of Portuguese for example).

    • @DrAElemayo
      @DrAElemayo 4 роки тому +58

      What is a belgian accent

    • @pinksnake8001
      @pinksnake8001 4 роки тому +144

      @@DrAElemayo Accent of people living in Belgium obviously.

    • @edipires15
      @edipires15 4 роки тому +31

      Dutch accent? Nah, just because the flag is similar doesn't mean the rest is similar aswell

    • @pinksnake8001
      @pinksnake8001 4 роки тому +25

      @@_blank-_ Wtf are you saying ?
      Belgian = from Belgium.
      Just google it that's not hard.

  • @quackcement
    @quackcement 4 роки тому +2043

    4:04 disagree i think free transit is brilliant for tourists when they can just hop on hop off without having to worry about the complexity of getting tickets. it makes a city more appealing to visit.

    • @azeria5438
      @azeria5438 4 роки тому +51

      Definately! Had that in Melbourne (it's free in the center) and it was pure joy

    • @allancoffee
      @allancoffee 4 роки тому +6

      And the minister didnt say anything about tourists at all ...😂

    • @andrewbezzina87
      @andrewbezzina87 4 роки тому +20

      @@azeria5438 When I was in Melbourne the area that had free transit i.e the CBD is so small, its not worth mentioning that its free. The free part is like 4 stops on the tram, as soon as you go one more than that you need a valid ticket. For a tourist its easier just to get a ticket then figure out where the free area ends. Maybe things gave changed since then?

    • @osco4311
      @osco4311 4 роки тому +7

      It's common in US cities around ski resorts, free public transit is common, mainly so tourist can move between the ski slopes, hotels, and restaurants quickly and easily.

    • @Ersa0431
      @Ersa0431 3 роки тому +19

      Especially if you are not confident with the language.

  • @younhitchborn
    @younhitchborn 2 роки тому +80

    When I went to Tokyo, I was blown away by their transit system. The trains were super quick and always on time. You could almost set your watch to them.

  • @joekalmes
    @joekalmes 4 роки тому +1465

    As a luxembourgish student, I have to take the public transport everyday.
    Before the new law of getting rid to pay for the transports, every student got a card called "schülerkaart" (students card) in which a free transport was already included. It guaranteed a free transport inside the country of Luxembourg, you only have to pay for border-passing rides.
    Greetings from Luxembourg🇱🇺

    • @joostglas5631
      @joostglas5631 4 роки тому +36

      In The Netherlands all students get nation wide free public transport during weekdays (or during the weekend, you can choose)

    • @bom.6658
      @bom.6658 4 роки тому +8

      That sounds amazing here in The U.S I have to pay 10 or more dollars just to get to School because there is no direct route.

    • @davidf2023
      @davidf2023 3 роки тому +9

      An fierdrun gouf et d'Jumbos Kaart. Aiaiai d jugend vun haut 😅

    • @yansamus
      @yansamus 3 роки тому +9

      @@davidf2023 enplus, mat der Jumboskaart kruus du Rabatt am Kino, am Mcdo etc ! Ech well rem zreck an dei gudd aal Zait :P

    • @joltjolt5060
      @joltjolt5060 2 роки тому +1

      Now your mommy can ride you to school instead of driving you there. ;)

  • @soapiesteevee
    @soapiesteevee 4 роки тому +425

    As a Luxembourgish person, it feels so surreal watching a video and recognizing every location shown in it. I'm just absolutely not used to it.
    Honestly great work on the video, explains everything very great :)

    • @jimbobeire
      @jimbobeire 4 роки тому

      @Pro Pane I lived in Luxembourg in the mid 1990s, and passed through again 5 years ago, cycling home to Ireland from Poland. There has been some new bike infra installed since I lived there, but not a whole lot (there's a long segregated cycle track named after Nicholas Franz who won the Tour de France in 1927 and 1928) It's not difficult to cycle there though.

    • @basieluxanno7909
      @basieluxanno7909 4 роки тому +3

      @Pro Pane they have at the moment arojnd 500km of cycling track and want to expant it with 600km more, but they are far behind shedule. But that is typucal Luxembourg 😜 we need 35 years from planing to finish building on a motorway of 20km, incl three tunnels and one bridge (extantion of A7 between Luxembourg and Mersch)

    • @kommandant.357
      @kommandant.357 4 роки тому

      Did you speak Dutch there? Want Dan kan ik dat ook

    • @official_alphabet_inc
      @official_alphabet_inc 4 роки тому

      Big whoop, Sooup. If you stand on the roof of your house, you can see the entire country! 🤪

    • @basieluxanno7909
      @basieluxanno7909 4 роки тому +4

      @@kommandant.357 only on the campings 😅

  • @jonathancassels4835
    @jonathancassels4835 4 роки тому +372

    "It has happened that people are standing for an hour and a half on the platform, waiting for the train, with no substitute buses or anything. So, that's an extreme case, obviously"
    Canadian checking in, I was nodding along until "So, that's an extreme case, obviously".

    • @pumkin1241
      @pumkin1241 4 роки тому +4

      If you don't mind me asking but where in Canada do you live? I've never waited that long for a train in my life unless we're not on the same page

    • @matttanner462
      @matttanner462 4 роки тому +45

      Apples AreGoodz Here in London, Ontario the buses are notoriously bad, and that’s it for public transportation. I’ve regularly waited 15 minutes for a 5 minute bus, only for 3 of them to roll up at the same time, literally bumper to bumper.

    • @ivanomatrisciano3828
      @ivanomatrisciano3828 4 роки тому +10

      Me, an Italian: *laughs in Circumvesuviana*

    • @JazzyCrumbles
      @JazzyCrumbles 4 роки тому +13

      Me, a Brazilian, laughs in Sardine-can-buses-during-a-pandemic

    • @oktosoccer6172
      @oktosoccer6172 4 роки тому +1

      Matt Tanner Here in Windsor it’s the same situation

  • @matthewbergeron3641
    @matthewbergeron3641 2 роки тому +11

    The Canadian City Ottawa did it during decemeber 2021 as a"sorry our transportation has been so bad lately" kind of move and it was fantastic. Especially when it's super cold you don't want to be fumbling with your wallet or pulling cards out of pockets or bags when you got gloves on. It was so awesome to just walk onto the bus and have it take you somewhere

  • @JoeBleasdaleReal
    @JoeBleasdaleReal 4 роки тому +583

    Luxembourg: Unreliable public transit for free
    UK: Unreliable public transit that will cost you a kidney every time it’s cancelled at the last minute

    • @blackrabbit212
      @blackrabbit212 4 роки тому +36

      Thanks, Margaret Thatcher.

    • @janani1826
      @janani1826 4 роки тому +8

      I mean it's lit in London ... Just don't live in the rest od the UK 😂😂 problem solved

    • @PatiSmh
      @PatiSmh 4 роки тому +6

      Yea, I live in Newcastle and the metros are awful.

    • @superresistant0
      @superresistant0 4 роки тому +1

      I'm glad I moved to Luxembourg

    • @jgrtrx
      @jgrtrx 4 роки тому +11

      US: Good luck if your train or bus even arrives.

  • @wills1644
    @wills1644 4 роки тому +2389

    As someone who lives in the Bay Area, hearing that this transit system is merely “okay” makes me really want to hop across the pond

    • @nengu1472
      @nengu1472 4 роки тому +53

      Ugh tell me about it... to get to school and around I use Bart, muni, AC transit, and so on 🙄😂

    • @autious
      @autious 4 роки тому +79

      And if you take the BART under the Oakland bridge, you technically need to wear hearing protection unless you want to get permanent hearing damage.

    • @richardk2n
      @richardk2n 4 роки тому +147

      I have been to the bay area recently. And from my rural bavarian (where we have shitty trains) perspective I can say: what on earth are you guys doing BA"R"T looks like you captured it in WWII and never maintained it.

    • @KrishnaDasLessons
      @KrishnaDasLessons 4 роки тому +7

      @@autious OMG I wasn't the only one who thought that part was super loud. It has improved, but still it is insanely loud.

    • @KrishnaDasLessons
      @KrishnaDasLessons 4 роки тому +79

      @Nigel Cam Well, highways suck and they destroy cities, and I prefer public transport over driving for an hour.

  • @DC_R
    @DC_R 3 роки тому +11

    Luxembourg be like:
    _Oh we'll give you a ride to work but we don't want you living here_ 😂

  • @daniel-xj1su
    @daniel-xj1su 4 роки тому +27

    Luxembourgians: Waiting an hour and a half for the train because of technical failure
    Me: Laughs in German

  • @calebr7199
    @calebr7199 4 роки тому +1669

    Luxemburg: Public transit is now free
    UK: We want to make public transit cheeper
    US: Y'all have public transit?

    • @benjaminmiddaugh2729
      @benjaminmiddaugh2729 4 роки тому +118

      The US has public transit where it makes some form of sense. It just makes sense in a lot fewer places than it does for many other parts of the world.

    • @DFX2KX
      @DFX2KX 4 роки тому +16

      @@benjaminmiddaugh2729 exactly. We have city-subsidized transit in the collage town I live in. And there was talk of getting busses to the capital. But we don't have the dedicated passenger-only rail network that we'd need to make it viable on a national scale.

    • @coolbrounderscore
      @coolbrounderscore 4 роки тому +35

      DFX2KX Even if the infrastructure existed it would get very little use. The distances are simply too great. Would you rather take a train from say Houston to Chicago or fly? Most people would prefer to fly, even if it’s significantly more expensive. Assuming the train travelled at a constant 100 mph (which probably isn’t realistic) it would still take ~10 hours to make the trip, while a plane takes 2.5 hours.

    • @keltondavis4559
      @keltondavis4559 4 роки тому +14

      @@coolbrounderscore it would make sense for short distance like Cleveland Akron Canton Columbus line

    • @cameoshadowness7757
      @cameoshadowness7757 4 роки тому +4

      There is some public transits here, it's acrually a huge privet company that makes the transport possible but it is opn to the public. I have used them quite a bit. NJ and NY I know for a fact have but idk about other states.

  • @nmat6183
    @nmat6183 4 роки тому +535

    If ticket sales only covers 10% of the cost, getting rid of it will lose you even less. Cause you'll save money on not having to maintain a ticket system, checking passengers and so on.

    • @krashd
      @krashd 4 роки тому +65

      This is one of the arguments in favour of UBI, the infrastructure, staff and buildings required to help people find work uses between a fifth and a quarter of what it would cost to move to UBI and that they only need to find the other 75-80%

    • @rfldss89
      @rfldss89 4 роки тому +18

      The gov has actually stated it will keep most train inspectors, as safety and assistance to people trying to figure out what train to take, etc. Also, i havent seen a bus inspector in years, and I rode the bus on a daily basis all throughout my teens.

    • @SahilP2648
      @SahilP2648 4 роки тому +4

      I have to disagree on that one cause you don't really need personnel to check and print tickets nowadays. It's Hella cheap to just create a paperless ticketing system (or an app that gets you access to trains) and people have internet on every device imaginable nowadays. You just need the right coding behind it all, that's it. Then you can maybe do 5% and overall you are getting worth 10% or more. Do you get me?

    • @teetandreas
      @teetandreas 4 роки тому +1

      @@SahilP2648 That's probably how they could keep all the people related to it on payroll. From several clips it seemed that the local transport already heavily relies on IT-systems, which is the only way to do it these days.
      Having a possibility to buy an online ticket though, doesn't make people buy it. That's why you still need respective people doing random checks. Someone before said, it wasn't done (which I am very surprised of), they must have since changed the system or Luxembourg just doesn't think their stuff through.
      (I am not local, neither do I mean to offend anyone :) )

    • @cjhification
      @cjhification 4 роки тому +14

      @@SahilP2648 still need other means as not everyone has a smartphone so ticket infrastructure is still needed, can be machines doing it but an app on its own would not cut it.

  • @wojtekpolska1013
    @wojtekpolska1013 4 роки тому +152

    I live in Poland and we have awesome public transport - even in smallest unimportant shitty villages you have bus/tram that will take you very close to where you want to go.
    like you could totally live in in other part of city/other town that you work/learn and not own a car.
    and also its free for elderly, and free to blood donors

    • @Leenapanther
      @Leenapanther 4 роки тому +11

      I'm from Switzerland. Our public transport is fantastic but very expensive. A lot of people wish it would be cheaper for elderly. Can I ask you how people prove that they are blood donors (like do they have to carry a special card?)

    • @CzornyLisek
      @CzornyLisek 4 роки тому +14

      @@Leenapanther
      Blood donors have a thing that literally translated would mean "Little Book of Blood Donor" and well it is little book thingy
      With it you can also skip lines in certain places and get some other services and stuff
      When it come to special thingies for public transportation there are also other cards and what not. Like for example some cities have cards for large families.
      As there are essentially 3 levels of regulations of public transport. National, local government and company. It varies quite a bit.

    • @LMB222
      @LMB222 4 роки тому +5

      @@Leenapanther in Poland, people over 70 or 75 (depending on the city) have public transport for free. I find it a bit excessive, I wish it was at least limited to off-peak hours.

    • @roodborstkalf9664
      @roodborstkalf9664 3 роки тому +22

      That blood donors have free public transport is a nice touch. I like it.

    • @wojtekpolska1013
      @wojtekpolska1013 3 роки тому +3

      @@roodborstkalf9664 yea, also many sport-related places (like pools, gyms) give them good discounts etc.

  • @noahboa97
    @noahboa97 3 роки тому +30

    I have to say that the trains are practically never late... They might be cancelled but not always!

  • @jacobcdefg
    @jacobcdefg 4 роки тому +356

    4:54 thats the coolest stained glass window I've ever seen

    • @blanco7726
      @blanco7726 4 роки тому +13

      Central station, main building I believe

    • @BigDumpliing
      @BigDumpliing 4 роки тому +37

      It used to be even prettier 4 years ago before they covered half of it up with that ugly electronic sign. It used to be a nice old fashioned mechanical sign that didnt cover up the window and fit the aesthetic of the station better.

    • @pashasghost9252
      @pashasghost9252 3 роки тому +1

      That's a shame

    • @caminstol2473
      @caminstol2473 3 роки тому

      @Vedant K B)

    • @FenceThis
      @FenceThis 3 роки тому

      Then you should come visit Church of Norte Dame in Paris, they have.... oh wait

  • @cheesypotatoson
    @cheesypotatoson 4 роки тому +965

    "Waiting an hour and an a half for a train with no replacement bus services"
    ah so that's just Northern on a regular day

    • @benabusthethird9751
      @benabusthethird9751 4 роки тому +10

      Not just Northern Haha. Happens on the east coast line too!

    • @wtfkanal9997
      @wtfkanal9997 4 роки тому +23

      And in Switzerland I've never seen a train more than 3 minutes late

    • @kawper4425
      @kawper4425 4 роки тому +6

      "Waiting a(n) hour." The H is silent so it becomes (an)

    • @rolfs2165
      @rolfs2165 4 роки тому +16

      Deutsche Bahn manages to do this, too. :/

    • @guiserixsacha4520
      @guiserixsacha4520 4 роки тому +1

      You should try coming to France XD

  • @katie18976
    @katie18976 2 роки тому +2

    Hi! Sending lots of love and hugs from Estonia 🇪🇪 it's not often our small country is mentioned somewhere 😊🤗❤️

  • @FreakigesSternchen
    @FreakigesSternchen 4 роки тому +38

    omg i’m from luxembourg and this video makes me so nostalgic for it with all the places i recognize 😭😭

  • @funkalunatic
    @funkalunatic 4 роки тому +2093

    All this hand-wringing about how it's not perfect and I'm standing here like "Wow this is better than anything in my country and it's free"

    • @openthinker6562
      @openthinker6562 4 роки тому +144

      As a Dutch person, it is very convenient and cool, but Luxembourg is also very, very small, and also quite wealthy considering it’s size. It can afford it.

    • @drsch
      @drsch 4 роки тому +50

      It's not free. Change that mindset. It's payed for through tax dollars. Meaning it's paid for at the point of a gun weather you use it and need it or not.

    • @artyb27
      @artyb27 4 роки тому +252

      @@drsch no it's not free but it _is_ much cheaper for the average citizen, because the costs of maintaining a fare architecture (i.e maintaining and tanning ticket machines and offices, paying the salaries of ticket inspectors and gatekeepers) is decimated. In a moral tax system the vast majority of the tax pool will come from corporations and the elite anyway, so it really does help the working/middle class.

    • @funkalunatic
      @funkalunatic 4 роки тому +145

      @@drsch literally no European gets a gun pointed at them to pay for public transportation

    • @anessenator
      @anessenator 4 роки тому +74

      @@drsch If you want to go and live somewhere where you have no obligation to anyone else, there's ways to do that. You haven't chosen that option, though, because it's insane, isn't it?

  • @matthewwatt8969
    @matthewwatt8969 4 роки тому +627

    For a second I thought I was watching in grey-scale untill I realised he's wearing a jumper and most probably wearing a red t-shirt underneath

    • @buddyclem7328
      @buddyclem7328 4 роки тому +89

      The hoodie is part of his standard wardrobe, along with his signature 10 dark red T-shirts, 10 pairs of black jeans, black socks, and, I assume, matching underwear. It must be quite liberating.

    • @charleyatkins9094
      @charleyatkins9094 4 роки тому +1

      Buddy Clem don’t forget the numerous suits

    • @rolfs2165
      @rolfs2165 4 роки тому +7

      @@buddyclem7328 Speaking as someone who buys t-shirts, underwear, and socks (aside from the ones my mother knits) in bulk - it is. Although I maybe should try and find a colour other than black for my t-shirts.

    • @jendorei
      @jendorei 4 роки тому

      It’s still cold - no wonder he’s not in just the T-shirt.

    • @srirachadonut8011
      @srirachadonut8011 4 роки тому

      ً tell Charlie that

  • @anastasijaradic7250
    @anastasijaradic7250 4 роки тому +12

    i just returned from a trip to luxembourg and i must say, i really liked the free transport, me and my classmates were able to travel whereever whenever. it could be better, but it is a great start

  • @Tieshoes
    @Tieshoes 4 роки тому +15

    Me: Sees title and clicks on the video to find out my question
    Video begins: "Luxembourg is a small country."
    Me: Why can't youtube videos be this direct?

  • @drhexerei
    @drhexerei 4 роки тому +4066

    Transit that's "ok by European standards" = phenomenal by American standards

    • @PKMartin
      @PKMartin 4 роки тому +285

      I took a train from a medium sized town to the regional city in Germany, at 8:30am on a weekday. It was on time to within a minute and there were plenty of seats free. Trying to do the same thing in the UK would have meant folding yourself into two different people's armpits or waiting for another doubly-overcrowded train because your one was inexplicably cancelled

    • @ArghyadeepPal
      @ArghyadeepPal 4 роки тому +220

      More like revolutionary by American standards..

    • @rockspoon6528
      @rockspoon6528 4 роки тому +66

      ​@@ArghyadeepPal America covers the same land mass with half the population, and enormous stretches of largely empty land between cities. Some states, like Nevada, are nearly 90% state owned (wild) land. It's absurd to expect such a place to have particularly good public transit. I have also lived in Japan, where public transit is eons past anything in Europe, so Europe can f off. Their transit is a sad third place at best.

    • @hinken3716
      @hinken3716 4 роки тому +142

      @@rockspoon6528 Rockspoon someone hasn't been sleeping well.

    • @valeuudiste4664
      @valeuudiste4664 4 роки тому +9

      PKMartin its strange seeing that london has double the population of the entire irish republic

  • @cry0lite800
    @cry0lite800 4 роки тому +2213

    Is there a country left in Europe that has not been graced by Tom Scott's presence lmao

  • @MH-mb6uo
    @MH-mb6uo 4 роки тому +29

    So I‘m actually luxembourgish and our public transport is evolving so much lately. One main problem I always figured is that, depending on where you live, busses don’t pass by that often a day. Recently this is changing though, as there are more bus lines coming up and they start to drive more frequently. It sure has happened that a bus was late or just didn’t show up, but I‘ve been in Germany now for a few months and this happens way more frequently here. Also it’s still better to miss a bus u didn’t pay for. So I‘d say that overall we can be really happy with our system even though it clearly isn’t perfect, it’s getting better. (Also for all those who commented on how clean busses and trains look: yes they are clean, no they usually don’t smell of piss, are you all okay..?)

    • @nonyafkinbznes1420
      @nonyafkinbznes1420 Рік тому

      But if I own a car the "bus" will always run exactly when I need it to.

    • @celestialtree8602
      @celestialtree8602 Рік тому +1

      @@nonyafkinbznes1420 I mean, when they come every 15 minutes at a precise time every time, that's not that much of an issue. Plus, you can do other things while on a bus or train, like check your email or watch a video. Would much rather chill and possibly even get some stuff done than have to drive in traffic.

    • @nonyafkinbznes1420
      @nonyafkinbznes1420 Рік тому

      @@celestialtree8602 But they don't run that precisely and you're limited to the bus route.

    • @celestialtree8602
      @celestialtree8602 Рік тому +1

      @@nonyafkinbznes1420 They do if they're competently designed (or rather, run that precisely the vast majority of the time, and the people who run it will take responsibility if it doesn't).
      Though, at the point where they're competently designed, there's a good chance you'll also have other alternatives like trams, a metro, and bike infrastructure. Oftentimes these are chained together by people in well-designed cities, such as biking to the metro, taking the metro for a bit, and then biking to their final destination.
      Notably, even if you're not going to use it, it's in your best interest to support public transit. Downs-Thompson paradox and all that; car traffic will increase until it's faster to take a different mode of transport, so ideally you want the other modes of transport to be quick and convenient so car traffic is as well.

    • @nonyafkinbznes1420
      @nonyafkinbznes1420 Рік тому

      @@celestialtree8602 No, because proponents of the "alternatives" advocate stealing lane space and infrastructure from drivers to put their bike lanes, bus lanes, bus stops and trams. They also advocate raising taxes on drivers and imposing ever more infraction enforcement fines to pay for it. That's why gasoline costs about double in Germany compared to America, plus your outrageous VAT.
      It's interesting that drivers are told they need to support alternatives, while the proponents of alternatives rarely support driving.

  • @coastaku1954
    @coastaku1954 3 роки тому +8

    2:25 Can we just all agree that those are the greatest seats ever found on a Tram.... THEY LOOK STRAIGHT OUT OF CYBERPUNK!!!!

    • @ugemellt
      @ugemellt 3 роки тому

      they are very unpleasant to use, just hard plastic. The most amazing seats are in the "old rolling stock" from the video, these are soft, 20cm thick chairs.

    • @coastaku1954
      @coastaku1954 3 роки тому

      @@ugemellt So? They look cool, and if they contour to your body then it doesn’t matter

    • @ugemellt
      @ugemellt 3 роки тому +1

      @@coastaku1954 i guess everyone has his priorities.

  • @somitomi
    @somitomi 4 роки тому +578

    2:32 "lot of the rolling stock is dated" shows footage of a trainset made in the '90s. Heh, that is "fairly modern" by the standards of Hungarian railways.

    • @Sammie1053
      @Sammie1053 4 роки тому +29

      (laughs in American)

    • @the_last_raposa3810
      @the_last_raposa3810 4 роки тому +4

      1960s is fairly modern

    • @JasperJanssen
      @JasperJanssen 4 роки тому +4

      Bosstown Dynamics trains in NL typically run for twenty years plus twenty years, with one big refurb in between.

    • @Floedekage
      @Floedekage 4 роки тому +7

      @@the_last_raposa3810 no, not when it comes to trains. Most trains build nowadays will have between a 20-30 year operating window before it isn't worth keeping compared to the cost of repairs. This is not true for all locomotives though.
      It is comparable to airplanes, but instead of measuring it by how many times the cabin have been compressed/decompressed and how it will affect the body of the airplane, it is measured by when the repairs exceed the expected innovation for new trains on the market.
      If your country or state is still using rollingstock from the 1980s, they really need funding.

    • @edipires15
      @edipires15 4 роки тому +8

      Actually the rolling stock of Luxembourg isn't dated at all, the oldest train is that train set shown but the majority of o rolling stock trains running in Luxembourg are less than 20 years old

  • @jigurd
    @jigurd 4 роки тому +190

    This is a cool decision and all and a great enviromental move...
    But I'm more impressed that Tom has the leverage to get an interview with the Deputy Prime Minister of Luxembourg.

    • @j.w.forest5581
      @j.w.forest5581 4 роки тому +56

      It's not that hard in a small country of 600,000 people to get an interview if you ask. If you are working on a project, they are most often happy to talk to you. In high school, I did an assignment where I got an interview with him.

    • @coolbrounderscore
      @coolbrounderscore 4 роки тому +12

      It’s like getting to interview a relatively low level city official in a city of 600,000 people (e.g. El Paso, Texas). Probably not all that hard.

    • @oliverwilson11
      @oliverwilson11 4 роки тому +2

      Luxembourg has about the population of Milwaukee

    • @stevieinselby
      @stevieinselby 4 роки тому +7

      I'm impressed that the Deputy Prime Minister of Luxembourg has the leverage to get an interview with Tom Scott 😎

    • @oliverwilson11
      @oliverwilson11 4 роки тому

      @@neues3691
      You need public pressure if you want improvements to transit to actually happen in a timely way. Making fares free is a good way to generate that public pressure because obviously more people want to use something if you drop the price. Some people believe that every dollar spent on fare subsidies means a dollar less spent on improvements but that's an unrealistically simplistic belief. Real politics is more dynamic than that.

  • @GeorgeAlone2277
    @GeorgeAlone2277 4 роки тому +13

    I love how these videos are so similar to the boring ones you had to watch during geography class and it was so boring. But then 10 years later as an adult it's absolutely fascinating.

    • @q.e.d.9112
      @q.e.d.9112 2 роки тому +1

      It’s called Growing Up.
      Some never do.

    • @pikachuchujelly7628
      @pikachuchujelly7628 10 місяців тому

      If it's about a topic you're interested in, it's not boring.

  • @k41ew
    @k41ew 3 роки тому +2

    I can see there have been a few comments already from people living in Luxembourg, but I would like to add my two cents here:
    As a student, public transportation was already free for me before the reform this video is about, but it's still great. Buses and Trains being late is way less of a problem than this video makes it out to be, in years of using public transportation almost everyday, I have had only a couple bad experiences; and none of them awful. Buses and trains are clean, you have an app to track delays and to give you the shortest route from points A to B. In thr capital itself, there are electric bike renting stations every few hundred metres, which makes transportation incredibly flexible (although here I have to say that the annual subscription for the bikes is 18€, a very small amount but not free nonetheless). All in all, I think public transport in Luxembourg is great!

  • @jayxi5021
    @jayxi5021 4 роки тому +292

    This country is soo small I know exactly where every shot was taken. Yes, I live there

    • @almogbenchen6282
      @almogbenchen6282 4 роки тому +6

      Lmao wow that's really cool actually

    • @marcindzamroga8945
      @marcindzamroga8945 4 роки тому +21

      Me too! XP
      But TBH, the worst issue with the public transport isn't that it gets late sometimes, but the fact, that to get to certain places one has to do a lot of switching between different lines. The housing cost is terribly high, though.

    • @jur4x
      @jur4x 4 роки тому +6

      I've been to Luxembourg twice, and I recognise most of those places :)

    • @wondercoll3719
      @wondercoll3719 4 роки тому +1

      me 2

    • @mypdf
      @mypdf 4 роки тому +8

      Even I know around 70% of the locations in this video, just from a one-day visit half a year ago...
      Funny

  • @basieluxanno7909
    @basieluxanno7909 4 роки тому +604

    Hi, I am from Luxembourg (even born there), now I am 25 years old, and I have to say the Luxembourg public transportations is good!
    I live in almost the northest place of Luxembourg 5min by car to the nearest trainstation (Drauffelt), where during the week at least 2 times the hour a train goes to Luxembourg city.
    the journey to the Kirchberg (where the European buildings are located) takes by car 50 min in the weekend and by train + tram 60 min. With the car you need still to find a parking spot and pay for it, excl petrol price!
    Unfortunatly I need my car during my job, else I would for sure take the public transportation to my work! For my hobby I try to use it at much as possible 😉
    What tourist often think, the cancelations and delays in their country are the same in Luxembourg, but that is not! the most train traffic systems are in abroad ring formations, in Luxembourg, because it is small and geological not easy to do that, is here the train system a star formation, where the main point is in Luxembourg city. From here there is going f. ex. line 10 is the northen line and will not loop back. If you cancel here a train, the whole line is blocked, so that won't work. the trains are often delayed (5-15min), but not cancelled!
    the bus system is going to be improved in the next few years. there are driving already more busses since two years, so this system will changing still and smaller towns like will get also better conections!
    What we have in Luxembourg too, and not mentioned is, night busses. Because here are a lot of small towns (for you very small towns, with a few hunderds people living) so to go to a party, you have to switch towns.
    there are three types of night busses: night navette, night rider and late night bus.
    night navette is a line what only travelles during the outgoing times
    night rider is a taxi, where the most towns it is free to use. I pay 75€ a year to order this taxi bus for a whole for free. I can order this bus like a taxi from 6pm until 6am in the weekends. It doesn't matter how often or how far I use it in a year.
    late night bus is only driving for the bigger partys or concerts. this bus have a specific route, where you can enter on a bus station and you will dropped off around 10pm on the party and the bus will go back at 1:30am and 3:30am (partys has to close at 3am) this bus is also free and is there that the people don't drive and drink. if you take this bus, you get often even a free drink sponsered by the organisation!
    I am proud to live in this luxery country who can afford free transportation for everybody, even for dissabled people, who need a special bus (Adapto)

    • @juquep9659
      @juquep9659 4 роки тому +36

      basielux anno I live in Luxembourg too and this very accurate information, thank you for taking the time to explain everything!

    • @averagecommunist3456
      @averagecommunist3456 4 роки тому +13

      What is this, a short novel?

    • @ThePikaPlayer
      @ThePikaPlayer 4 роки тому +3

      some people call me maurice

    • @basieluxanno7909
      @basieluxanno7909 4 роки тому +23

      @@averagecommunist3456 hehe, I could tell you much more about the public transportation in Luxembourg 😅
      like extra trains during events in Luxembourg city or with the Luxembourg card (tourist card, really cheap) that you don't only have in most attractions, museums and sightseeings free entrance, but you had also with that card already free transportation 😉 (a must have as a tourist)

    • @DLBBALL
      @DLBBALL 4 роки тому +12

      MR.minecraft UA-cam comments don’t always have to be funny 1-sentence long quotes from the video.

  • @JimboRustles
    @JimboRustles 4 роки тому +166

    2:32 "A lot of the rolling stock is dated"
    Lmao what?
    Most trains are air-conditioned, leaning, double deckers that are only 10-15 years old. The tram is literally brand new. The oldest trains on the network, used on some less-travelled routes, are from 1990. Doesn't London still use tube trains from the 60s?

    • @BigDumpliing
      @BigDumpliing 4 роки тому +16

      hahah, was thinking the exact same thing. The only thing that is dated is sometimes the engines on the older trains, but they work fine.

    • @LMB222
      @LMB222 4 роки тому +11

      I've ridden almost every possible mode of transportation in Luxembourg. If it's from 1990, it hardly shows, because it's painted and cleaned.

    • @blanco7726
      @blanco7726 4 роки тому +8

      The 1990 trains are used on most lines, high and low demand, but they are RB trains, meaning they stop at every village.

    • @taulanthalimi6837
      @taulanthalimi6837 2 роки тому

      the train the showed at that time you tagged is the only train that is outdated all the others are at least renewed if I'm not mistaking and the tram well yes that is like completely new

    • @davidlally592
      @davidlally592 Рік тому

      Actually the oldest london tube stock is from 1972- on the Bakerloo (brown) line..

  • @NIDELLANEUM
    @NIDELLANEUM 9 місяців тому +2

    I went there for a student exchange, back in 2022. I remember when I was with a group of around 20 people, and we all rushed to the train because it was about to leave. Immediately, I thought "okay, this is going to get really awkward because there's 20 of us without a ticket". Then I found out that public transportation in Luxembourg is free, and it felt so strange to me. It was a nice experience

  • @JakePetrolhead
    @JakePetrolhead 4 роки тому +1021

    "cancelled trains, delayed buses" - sounds like Yorkshire public transport but without the sense you're being ripped off.

    • @garethhelliwell9736
      @garethhelliwell9736 4 роки тому +12

      Send them our old pacer trains over. They'll soon pay for a ticket if it meant not having to get on a pacer 😂

    • @065Tim
      @065Tim 4 роки тому +12

      That's why it does matter that they are free. Paying for a cancelled train is equal to being robbed.

    • @dcarbs2979
      @dcarbs2979 4 роки тому +1

      @@065Tim Delay repay means cancelled UK trains are free too!

    • @kye.warrer
      @kye.warrer 4 роки тому +2

      @@dcarbs2979 that assumes that you have a season ticket

    • @dcarbs2979
      @dcarbs2979 4 роки тому +1

      @@kye.warrer Not so. I had a one-way single from Doncaster to Brighton which was over an hour late. I was entitled to (and got) a *full* refund. I'd never been to Yorkshire before in my life and haven't been back since.

  • @splitscim
    @splitscim 4 роки тому +72

    I have to say, this is one of Tom's better videos despite the lack of pizazz. I think it makes a very good point about public transport that all countries need to take into account: Make it reliable, and they will come. It's one of the primary ways we can fight climate change and we need to take the right approach at it.

  • @mst4309
    @mst4309 4 роки тому +10

    There are amazing small countries worldwide where the average life is just much calmer and happier.

    • @NowhereNoOne
      @NowhereNoOne 3 роки тому +3

      don't be fooled, we're just as stressed and depressed as everyone else

    • @Person01234
      @Person01234 Рік тому

      @@NowhereNoOne Speak for yourself.

  • @ImSlayah
    @ImSlayah 4 роки тому +9

    People wait 1:30 hrs for the train, "that's an extreme case of course"
    *laughs in Italian*

  • @yannickkohl8264
    @yannickkohl8264 4 роки тому +127

    As a Luxembourger, it's so strange to see these places in a video like this. Ususally slip under the radar!

    • @assaqwwq
      @assaqwwq 4 роки тому +6

      You guys are not even picked up by radar???
      Just kidding :D
      Have a great day

    • @krashd
      @krashd 4 роки тому +9

      So far I've seen Luxembourger, Luxembourgian and Luxemburgish used in these comments. Just what the hell do we call you Luxxers?

    • @kentonian
      @kentonian 4 роки тому

      Very much on the radar of tax dodgers 😂

    • @maitej.1353
      @maitej.1353 4 роки тому +3

      Rob Fraser so a person from Luxembourg is called a Luxembourger and if you want an adjective it’s Luxembourgish (Luxembourgian is just wrong)

    • @jsantoscruz98
      @jsantoscruz98 4 роки тому +1

      Rob Fraser I orefer to call ourselves Luxury Burger

  • @Gavolav
    @Gavolav 4 роки тому +157

    To be honest though, it's very rare that busses or trains would be cancelled in Luxembourg. It's only happened to me a 5 or 6 times in my entire 18 years of living there even though I've nearly always used public transport (and regularly). Although it is true that the busses are often late, they are late nearly only during rush hour, which is absolutely a problem but not the worst problem in the world (and if I would travel via car I'd still be stuck in traffic, just for less time)

    • @superresistant0
      @superresistant0 4 роки тому +18

      I lived in many cities and countries before Luxembourg and I find it absolutely fine. It's mind blowing to hear people complaining about it.

    • @blanco7726
      @blanco7726 Рік тому +2

      @@superresistant0 totally acceptable to complain about the rush hour traffic, there are some axes with stupid amount of traffic

    • @kosatochca
      @kosatochca Рік тому

      Still quite high, though, our notions of a cancellation could be quite different, as I live in a big Metropolis where if one bus is cancelled an alternative will arrive relatively quickly

    • @b43xoit
      @b43xoit Рік тому

      Couldn't I normally expect you to be honest? It's an exception when you choose to?

    • @darius684
      @darius684 Рік тому

      🇬🇧:💀

  • @Edward256
    @Edward256 Рік тому +17

    In Gothenburg there is practically a very inticate network that is close to being "from anywhere to everywhere". The region around called Västra Götaland has the same transit company, and shares the rails with the national railway company.
    Now, they are not free, and the prices have gone beyond the costs of owning a car, but at least in GBG the parking is a nightmare in which it is sometimes preferable to take public transportation.
    Within Västra Götaland, should a train be overly delayed there are alternative trains to take, or bus-jumping. Outside this region (like to Stockholm) is trickier. Should a rail line have problems and trains are canceled the whole day bus substitues will be brought in.
    We do have "express" trains that are 20% faster than the regular, but most often 20% dekayed. ;)

  • @tuomoschurman5614
    @tuomoschurman5614 4 роки тому +18

    Bro in the office has a watch on each arm. Legend.

    • @Refo3000
      @Refo3000 4 роки тому +2

      Brə moment

    • @EDoyl
      @EDoyl 4 роки тому +12

      Got a lot of time on his hands.

    • @jimhalpert9803
      @jimhalpert9803 3 роки тому

      @@EDoyl underrated

  • @jaydendixon7300
    @jaydendixon7300 4 роки тому +28

    I love the contradicting sources, gives the entire picture. Thanks Tom!

    • @trihardFTW
      @trihardFTW 4 роки тому +2

      Yh it really provides a balanced view!
      I initially came to this video thinking oh wow free transport?
      Then I realised that it doesn’t really matter if it’s not if a good quality.

    • @barvdw
      @barvdw 4 роки тому +1

      And it's why I am a little bit sceptical about the free bit. It's not like there aren't other ways to invest these fares, increasing capacity, frequency and reliability should be bigger priorities imo. Not that Luxemburg hasn't enough money to invest in better public transportation, mind you.

    • @ohredhk
      @ohredhk 4 роки тому

      @@barvdw Isn't that what the lady is pointing out? Making it free is not a solution for the real problem, the government is just doing the easiest thing.

    • @barvdw
      @barvdw 4 роки тому

      @@ohredhk Indeed, and I agree with her.

  • @COPKALA
    @COPKALA 4 роки тому +1117

    With less private cars on the streets, the chance buses to be on time will become higher and higher

    • @paracaue
      @paracaue 4 роки тому +71

      theoretically

    • @red2theelectricboogaloo961
      @red2theelectricboogaloo961 4 роки тому +32

      well buses. this definitely will not help the trains though. it will likely make overcrowding on commuter lines and light-rail worse by a standard deviation or two.

    • @needn5796
      @needn5796 4 роки тому +5

      Imagine that on some stretches, there's just a queue of busses during peak hour and just waiting on other busses :P not that that can't be solved in any way tho.

    • @rob-c.
      @rob-c. 4 роки тому +38

      unspokenbrute That is how all taxes work - every person doesn’t use every service they pay into. On the flip side to your concern, there are the lower paid people Tom mentions, who can’t afford a car so travel by train. Their taxes go towards funding new roads and maintaining the rest but they don’t use them.
      The point of pushing more people to public transport over the private car is the benefits for society in general - less pollution, less noise, better health, roads/car parks which take up large areas of land can be opened up for people rather than cars - the list goes on.

    • @Oli-lk1gp
      @Oli-lk1gp 3 роки тому +9

      @@unspokenbrute not at all LMAO. Luxembourg is one of the countries where tax are very low.

  • @Mo-fd9ri
    @Mo-fd9ri Рік тому +24

    In UK buses and trains are getting expensive year after year and they are rare on time.

    • @mhenderson7673
      @mhenderson7673 Рік тому +1

      I get the bus for free in Scotland, but it almost doubles the journey time compared to driving

    • @garryferrington811
      @garryferrington811 Рік тому +1

      You voted for it, so don't complain.

    • @madsam0320
      @madsam0320 Рік тому

      It’s because of tiny tax havens robbing British public of their taxes.

    • @krisp1631
      @krisp1631 Рік тому

      Well there's a £2 bus fare cap for most buses

    • @mhenderson7673
      @mhenderson7673 Рік тому +1

      @@krisp1631 Where's that? The buses in my area charge over £12 for a day ticket

  • @Harrington2323
    @Harrington2323 Рік тому +2

    In Germany we had the 9€ Ticket a month, for three months in summer 2022. It was a great succes but it showed us that the whole system is low funded and not reliable. But for P.t. the high price for fuel is a great Chance to bind customers.

  • @qhilip
    @qhilip 4 роки тому +73

    As a citizen of Luxembourg it’s cool to see this subject covered!

  • @ryko9975
    @ryko9975 4 роки тому +275

    The American in me is just happy to see those strange track-riding busses

    • @burneraccountforthewin
      @burneraccountforthewin 4 роки тому +66

      Trams?

    • @thelastcube.
      @thelastcube. 4 роки тому +10

      trams

    • @themoviedealers
      @themoviedealers 4 роки тому +4

      In the US we use the word "tram" only for aerial trams, as you would see at ski resorts to get up the mountain.

    • @peterson7082
      @peterson7082 4 роки тому +3

      @@themoviedealers We in MA use it in regards to street cars/ green line trains.

    • @Benjy52
      @Benjy52 4 роки тому +13

      Instead of just changing the word, just call it trams like everyone else in the world please?

  • @jimbo_1
    @jimbo_1 2 роки тому +9

    When I lived in Lux, having free public transport was literally life-changing. I'd stop halfway through my journey home for a coffee or some shopping, get back on the tram 2 hours later and not have to pay again. And when you're feeling lazy, it's great to get the bus for only one stop. In countries where you have to pay, I'd always rather walk than pay for 1 stop

  • @samibouraoui4449
    @samibouraoui4449 3 роки тому +4

    Greetings from Luxembourg! We are very grateful for free transport!

  • @JustSomeBloke1
    @JustSomeBloke1 4 роки тому +44

    It's the last time anyone will say "my train was cancelled - I want my money back"!

    • @infirmux
      @infirmux 4 роки тому +2

      my tax money... And I do not like that the amount of tax money available cannot provide a reliable service.

    • @darryljones3009
      @darryljones3009 4 роки тому

      "I want my time back."

  • @JasperCasper24
    @JasperCasper24 4 роки тому +85

    that's it i'm off to luxembourg. as someone who can never drive for medical reasons, this is damn brilliant!

  • @FreshHeat
    @FreshHeat 3 роки тому +10

    Tom Scott dropping "post scarcity society" like a G would. Much respect

  • @pinkhairyanan
    @pinkhairyanan 4 роки тому +4

    Lady at 3:09: No one ever knows if the trains are actually going to be on time
    Me: *laughs in Trenord*

  • @alexyoung9710
    @alexyoung9710 4 роки тому +143

    I wonder if this actually saves them money since there fees were so low already. Considering they can save on ticket guards and the running and maintenance of ticket machines.

    • @infirmux
      @infirmux 4 роки тому +12

      not sure. But "ticket guards" will have other tasks. Maybe not all, but there was no plan to have mass reduction of jobs.

    • @graham2631
      @graham2631 4 роки тому +12

      The huge savings comes from not having to upgrade roads and repair them it far outweighs loss in fare.

    • @lauranight4572
      @lauranight4572 3 роки тому +10

      Living in Luxembourg, I never encountered a ticket guard. People joke that they're a myth. I know they exist, but they're so rare many people just risk it.

    • @marleneantunes3293
      @marleneantunes3293 3 роки тому +2

      @@lauranight4572 before going free, I heard there were always no ticket guards in the buses but for sure always in the trains

    • @urmaisgay6495
      @urmaisgay6495 3 роки тому +1

      in britain we have roads that introduced charges to cover the cost of laying the road. decades later, after the construction has been paid for, the charges cover the cost of charging users.

  • @iBout
    @iBout 4 роки тому +24

    As someone living there I can totally agree with the “alright” aspect. Transport is free for most people already I.e students

    • @joltjolt5060
      @joltjolt5060 2 роки тому

      So the country is full of students? You shouldn't be in college.

  • @BThings
    @BThings 4 роки тому +3

    Awesome work as usual, Tom!
    I like how this video shared the benefits, drawbacks, and motivations of this idea and showed how much more complicated things can be when we start looking into them.

  • @bradydrew4169
    @bradydrew4169 4 роки тому +201

    What’s “okay” by European standards is “Really nice” by American standards

    • @userseveneleven
      @userseveneleven 3 роки тому +33

      Sorry I couldn't hear you in my 6.7L 4x4 cummins rolling coal dodge that I am currently using to get some milk

    • @UkraineJames2000
      @UkraineJames2000 3 роки тому

      @@userseveneleven b a s e d

  • @kleinernils13
    @kleinernils13 4 роки тому +14

    I am from Luxembourg, The main reason people use their car instead of the bus is because the smaller villages (and there are many of them) around the capital are badly connected to the city centre. Often, there is only 1 bus an hour and the last bus runs at 9 pm so if you are going out with friends, you literally cannot get home on public transport.

  • @RicoBrassers
    @RicoBrassers 4 роки тому +69

    "No one ever knows, if the trains are voing to be on time."
    As a german with personal experience with the "Deutsche Bahn" (DB), I can totally relate to that statement.

    • @superresistant0
      @superresistant0 4 роки тому

      2 times I bought tickets with Deutsche Bahn, 2 times cancelled.

    • @hazgebu
      @hazgebu 4 роки тому +11

      Also the lady said it was an "extreme situation" waiting 1.5h for your train because one was cancelled.
      That's just my normal day here in Germany.

    • @jananias2985
      @jananias2985 4 роки тому +2

      indian trains: *hold my beer*

    • @hellfiregrowler
      @hellfiregrowler 3 роки тому +5

      That is a really interesting comment about the German Rail network. In the UK each time the media run a story about how crap the trains are everyone blurts out "BUT IN (insert any Western or Central European Country) THE TRAINS ARE PERFECT"......

    • @theramendutchman
      @theramendutchman 3 роки тому +4

      @@hellfiregrowler If I recall correctly, Germany (as well as the Netherlands, to my surprise) has one of the most on-point railway systems in the world.
      Yet, they complain the most about the lack of punctuality of their trains. Really just seems like they're very dependent on it.

  • @sisterdoublehappiness9714
    @sisterdoublehappiness9714 Рік тому +11

    Washington D.C. and Kansas City are the latest American cities to offer free mass transit. Other cities such as my hometown, Denver, offer free rides during peak air pollution months.

  • @craigcoates6247
    @craigcoates6247 3 роки тому

    Your videos, LITERALLY could not be any better, they are so perfect, love them, thank you.

  • @videosfromelsewhere926
    @videosfromelsewhere926 4 роки тому +37

    Well done, Tom! This report is thoroughly put together!

  • @CJSHM
    @CJSHM 4 роки тому +63

    "It has happened that people are waiting for an hour and a half on the platform for a train."
    Laughs as a Canadian who literally had to wait 13 hours for my train to show up.

    • @theajayyy
      @theajayyy 4 роки тому

      Are the trains finally active again?

    • @inventor121
      @inventor121 3 роки тому +6

      13 hour wait time on VIA Rail?
      That's actually not that bad, I've heard of some people waiting 48 hours for the train to show up at Edmonton Station

  • @JamesRedekop
    @JamesRedekop Рік тому +2

    I was in Luxembourg last month for work. The transit was running great -- not too crowded, always seemed to be on time. But the cars were *way* thinner on the ground than in this video.

  • @SmallTown_Studio
    @SmallTown_Studio Рік тому +1

    This guy knows more about transit and automobile congestion than most U.S. Civil Engineers.

  • @erik6001
    @erik6001 4 роки тому +113

    Luxenbourg: "Waiting 1,5h on the train without substitute is a extreme case"
    The Swedish rail transport: "Hold my beer"

    • @CarthagoMike
      @CarthagoMike 4 роки тому +18

      Dutch rail transport: "I wish I could hold your beer, but sadly I will be 3 hours late due to leaves on the tracks"
      And yes, they actually often cancel trains down here due to leaves on the tracks. It is just terrible.

    • @Opisek
      @Opisek 4 роки тому +8

      Germany's 'Deutsche Bahn':
      "Hold mein Bier"

    • @photinodecay
      @photinodecay 4 роки тому +5

      @@CarthagoMike Well, it's easy for the train to miss your station if it's going at normal speeds with leaves on the tracks.

    • @cola98765
      @cola98765 4 роки тому +1

      Sorry I'm late... a truck damaged power lines, and then we were waiting for every other train to pass.
      Polish railways in the nutshell.

    • @ZhadTheRad
      @ZhadTheRad 4 роки тому +2

      In Japan, waiting 1,5h for the train is an very extremely extreme case. They apologize if the train is as much as a few seconds late

  • @sophiemansell9813
    @sophiemansell9813 4 роки тому +5

    I live in Luxembourg and commute and can tell you that on my route the bus is on time every day! We live in a rural location but there are public buses 3 times a hour all day long and special night buses at the weekends transporting people back to the villages at 1 and 3 am from for city. This night service was always free. Great for the parents of teens.

    • @yrla
      @yrla 4 роки тому +1

      The lux bus line that stops in my German town seems to be on time all the time. They use the long bus with this extra vehicle and a lot of Germans in suits use it every day.

  • @Casutama
    @Casutama 3 роки тому +3

    As a Transport Management and Urban Planning major, I agree with everything you said in this video!

  • @Dutch-vj2eg
    @Dutch-vj2eg 5 місяців тому

    This is to be applauded! Public transport in many places is significantly more expensive than the direct cost of driving. I gave up on DC metro after three years of paying exorbitant ticket prices, dealing with surly staff and increasing delays. Driving just made more sense, especially when I could share it a few days a week with colleagues.
    I feel that in general, free transit will maximize its use and is helpful to lower incomes. Incomprehensible why this is not applied in other countries. Recovering the cost of transit through fares is usually a complete non-starter as rail based transit is simply too capital intensive. Trying to do so disadvantages lower incomes and does not maximize transit use. Kudos to Luxembourg for being this pragmatic!

  • @Dylan-xv3hp
    @Dylan-xv3hp 4 роки тому +46

    2:15 Don't forget the cost of ticketing machines + people to check tickets/enforce it. It's likely cheaper for them to just make it free!

    • @jahenders
      @jahenders 2 роки тому +1

      That is quite possibly true. I often wonder whether that might be true for a lot of our US toll roads and express lanes, when you consider ALL of the costs of collecting a fee -- building the roads to have separate areas and huge toll plazas, having people collect the fees, having people send tickets who don't pay, maintaining all of the toll booth equipment, and (most especially) the 'cost' of the roads being less efficient for everyone.

  • @drayoncoolagon9257
    @drayoncoolagon9257 4 роки тому +298

    3:12 An hour and a half is an extreme case
    *Laughs in Indian*

    • @blazereho811
      @blazereho811 4 роки тому +6

      why can't you just show up later if you know they're always running late? I don't live in the city and I haven't used public transportation before so I'm just curious.

    • @anuranansaha7162
      @anuranansaha7162 3 роки тому +15

      @@blazereho811 here in india, in the state where i live an express train was once late by 48hrs, and mind it this is just in my state.

    • @curlyy6
      @curlyy6 3 роки тому +5

      @@anuranansaha7162 crazy! Did it actually come in In Switzerland, if the train is late by 20 minutes, the connection mostly gets cancelled and switches to the next possible train/bus. But I guess in that case you can't compare Switzerlands public transport to Indias

    • @henrywalsh683
      @henrywalsh683 3 роки тому +3

      @@curlyy6 Well, trains in India are running for thousands of kilometres and are sometimes weekly once. I have actually sat in a train that was 24 hours late departing from New Delhi. It was coming from 500 km up north. We had to wait an entire day because we had confirmed reservation on that train and getting a confirmed ticket on the same day was not a thing 20 years ago (they have an immediate day service now, with higher charges obviously).
      I have seen trains getting cancelled in Italy if they get delayed by 1 or 2 hours because the next connection will be along anyway when the entire train journey is just 200 kms max for regional transports (Lombardia).

    • @prathamreddy5566
      @prathamreddy5566 2 роки тому

      @@henrywalsh683 that happens in a lot of countries for example in japan the trains go thousands of km and once a train was late by 2 hours and they had to write an apology on the news you can go and check

  • @lesliefranklin1870
    @lesliefranklin1870 Рік тому +1

    In many places, the cost of selling and collecting transit tickets outweighs the amount of money collected. In other words, charging fares is a money losing activity. They can save money by not charging fares.

  • @Vinemaple
    @Vinemaple 2 роки тому +1

    In the USA a common problem is transit letting you out into a vast desert of parking lots and freeway interchanges, a long, smoky, dangerous walk from your destina

  • @ERROR_-_404
    @ERROR_-_404 4 роки тому +232

    "it has happened that people are standing for an hour and a half on the platform, waiting for the train."
    Compared to parts of germany, those a rookie numbers.

    • @beepthemeep12
      @beepthemeep12 4 роки тому +30

      UK laughing in the distance where some trains are cancelled or delayed for hours

    • @Ruhrpottpatriot
      @Ruhrpottpatriot 4 роки тому +14

      You mean the third world parts of Germany like Bavaria? As a person who commutes about two to three hours a day for more than a decade now, I seriously don't get many of the complaints people have for the Bahn.

    • @MarimbaMaurice
      @MarimbaMaurice 4 роки тому +28

      @@Ruhrpottpatriot It differs widely between different parts of Germany. David Kriesel did an interesting talk on this topic. It is called "Bahnmining" if you're interested.

    • @BandanaDrummer95
      @BandanaDrummer95 4 роки тому

      Wait, you guys have passenger commuter trains?

    • @beepthemeep12
      @beepthemeep12 4 роки тому

      @@xL3thalTuRdZz rest in peace

  • @ft4709
    @ft4709 4 роки тому +30

    At the very least Luxemburg is actually investing in public transit (like building a new Tram system and upgrading the rail network). Usually „free“ transit is oftentimes just mentioned as the be-all end-all solution of transportation but actually ends up harming investment in infrastructure and thus doesn’t really accomplish anything. If Luxemburg succeeds with it, it‘ll be down to increased investment in frequency and reliability rather than the fact of it being „free“.

  • @_computerra
    @_computerra 4 роки тому +4

    Tom: Transportation is not that great
    Me, as an Indian: Hold my Chicken Tikka

  • @hubertblastinoff9001
    @hubertblastinoff9001 4 роки тому +2

    Thankfully Luxembourg city now has a tram line and they're extending it...

  • @eksiarvamus
    @eksiarvamus 4 роки тому +9

    Tallinn, Estonia is still the biggest city in the world with free public transport.

  • @janzacharias3680
    @janzacharias3680 4 роки тому +122

    If anyone has read about dan ariely, remember his talk about the magic of zero to us? Luxembourg will see a lot of improvement in their traffic system, which then has ripple effects on other systems

    • @inthefade
      @inthefade 4 роки тому +2

      @@qwaszx2 haha I was thinking the same thing.

    • @hayuseen6683
      @hayuseen6683 4 роки тому +11

      They did speak about investment into the transit system to improve it along with the public encouragement of free fare. The idea is likely to get people riding while making it work better. Best way to know how to improve things is to get a bunch of users in the system to find and squash the glitches.
      Sounds like they have their work cut out for them.

    • @szabados1980
      @szabados1980 4 роки тому +3

      Ripple effects usually never come to be. They are empty excuses. In other words, muck for mugs.

    • @ekki1993
      @ekki1993 4 роки тому +4

      I mean, even without the ripple effects, any government incentivising the use of public transit is putting their money in lowering the carbon footprint on their country. Efficiency and cost are valid points but as long as more people use it, it sounds like a net positive policy.

  • @davidmcquaid2557
    @davidmcquaid2557 Рік тому +1

    In Ireland when retired you can travel by all buses and trains for free all around the country.

  • @OXI28101941
    @OXI28101941 9 місяців тому

    The point about improving the reliability of services is so true. In my city (Heraklion, Crete), the city introduced three free minibus routes into the city centre (park and ride). They have won people over because the services run like clockwork, leaving the terminus at specific times. You can time when to arrive and park, avoiding any wasted time waiting. Far more reliable than the regular paying bus network.

  • @GeographyWorld
    @GeographyWorld 4 роки тому +26

    I visited Luxembourg in October last year. Public transport arou d the city was good and they were building new tram lines. When travelling further in the country, part of the train line was closed for whatever reason so a replacement bus was in use. You get free transport throughout the entire country with the Luxembourg tourist card.

    • @MichelAlbert
      @MichelAlbert 4 роки тому +3

      Thanks for setting the record a bit straight. People like to complain about our public transport, but frankly it's not so bad. Granted, it can't be as good as in major cities around the world for the rest of our country. But considering the prices it's really great service we're getting.

    • @GeographyWorld
      @GeographyWorld 4 роки тому +1

      @@MichelAlbert It's much better than Ireland's.

    • @hesspet
      @hesspet 4 роки тому

      We're visiting Luxembourg frequently one or two times a year. I was impressed that I don't have to pay for the service. Everything works fine during out visits.

    • @noclafcz
      @noclafcz 4 роки тому

      It's just one tram line. ;-)

    • @GeographyWorld
      @GeographyWorld 4 роки тому +1

      @@noclafcz There seemed to be alot of construction everywhere

  • @baalrog887
    @baalrog887 4 роки тому +10

    Me: okay Tom even I have my limits. I'm not going to watch an in depth discussion about the Luxembourg public transport system.
    Also me: okay maybe I am about to. And maybe I'm enjoying it.

  • @arcticweb
    @arcticweb 2 роки тому +1

    You're absolutely right about the fact that public transport has to become much more reliable and convinient rather than become free of charge. It would take me 1,5h to get to my office by transit and i would have to use train, tram and bus. By car it takes me just about 25min from my garage to my company's parking lot. I save about TWO hours every day by going by car.

  • @xinyan119
    @xinyan119 Рік тому +1

    A good transit system is not a free one, it's a reliable, fast and convenient one.

  • @trevorWilkinson
    @trevorWilkinson 4 роки тому +10

    And then there's the UK where buses and trains don't arrive on time, and cost and arm and a leg.
    I think the hope with free transport is if local orgs and businesses invest in it, they control the flow of people. For example a new business park or housing suburb with decent transport links.

  • @felipemartins6433
    @felipemartins6433 4 роки тому +26

    "if your bus is always late and your train is always cancelled, it doesn't really matter if they are free"
    * laughs in Brazilian *

  • @yrla
    @yrla 4 роки тому +2

    I live just across the border on the German side. Over the last couple of years buying or renting houses became so much more expensive here because of all the people working in Lux and living Ger. It's a problem

    • @roodborstkalf9664
      @roodborstkalf9664 3 роки тому

      I visited this area around eight years ago when houses where much cheaper in Germany then now. I saw some nice houses in Germany 50 kilometers from the Luxemburg border that were 150 thousand Euro. Similar houses in villages in Luxemburg where 450 thousand Euro. It's probably much worse now since lunatics in the ECB have taken over the asylum.

    • @Paulolz22
      @Paulolz22 Рік тому

      What irks me is how anything wrong in the region is always somehow Luxembourg's fault. Like Germany did not intentionally let salaries stagnate and the Ruhr and Saar regions economically fall off a cliff and left Lux to pick up the pieces. But at least Saarland gets some incest jokes lobbed at them sometimes 🤣 I am sure they don't regret joining the Bund with all its deep solidarity.

  • @MattDorrell
    @MattDorrell 4 роки тому +8

    Having been born in Luxembourg and living there for 18 years, it winds me up when people there complain about transport there being mediocre. I've lived in Bristol and London in the UK, and Pamplona in Spain, whose public transport systems I'd rank lower than Luxembourg in terms of the trouble and headache given to me over a period of time. We all seem to think our cities/countries public transport is the worst, and you're most likely wrong about that unless you live in Rome.
    The point on affordable housing is absolutely correct though, house prices are rivalling that of London, which is why 40% of the workforce lives abroad. Rush hour in Luxembourg is actually dire, too.