Reversing the Role of Food: The Effects of The Falling Devil
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- Опубліковано 8 вер 2024
- Food has always been a vital element of Chainsaw Man's story and thus when a character who's design explicitly connects itself to food like a chef it felt like she may end up impacting the general role of food within the series. This is one of the roles I believe The Falling Devil plays in the grander story of Chainsaw Man.
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The moment i saw the falling devil's body (not wearing any clothes), I knew for sure we weren't in Part 1 anymore
Smash
@@JacktheStripper-tc5pndown horrendous
"Author is horny again"
Quanxi would love Falling to join her and her girls' fun. 🥵
I thought you said YOU weren't wearing any clothes 😂
I just realized how on theme it is for the famine horseman to use a devil that is a chief. Fall was a really cool and fun antagonist
I wonder if we will see the Falling Devil again considering the fact Fami still has her Totem.
Her character is almost non-existent tho
I hope at least Death will be as entertaining as Conquest
You mean chef?
@@bugjams dang, yes
@@Kongongonggtf u mean non existent she literally was about to end both the protagonists of this part but the other chainsaw man saved them
Of all the devils we’ve seen falling devil is definitely one of the coolest ones. Her chef design is very unique and the fear of falling can mean several different things which adds depth to the idea. It also helps that her power to manipulate gravity is straight up terrifying with all the things it can lead to
It’s super cool but the darkness devil, hell devil and pochita true form beats it
@@xcxmafai Although keep in mind, it's highly implied that the Falling Devil we saw might not be at 100% power, judging from Fami's information regarding Guillotine Devil. If that's the case, a devil that strong only using a mere fraction of her power terrifies me.
@@aleisinwndrlen7113 oh yeah it’s not the full power of the fallen devil all the primal fears a sick as hell
@@aleisinwndrlen7113she only had fraction of her power but still caused disasters all across the world just by existing and she was trying to kill as less as she can but still destroyed houses like paper and killed the justice devil in one shot also it was stated there's no mean of killing her
@@xcxmafai design wise - darkness devil > falling > hell > pochita
Power wise - dark > fall > pochita > hell
A little extra detail about Falling Devil
The way she always has to held the head she is using as a face for me always has looked like the typical image of a server or a buttler holding a plate of food for a guest, a master, or a client
Where? All the pictures show her holding it in the way you never hold the plate.
Could be a strech but the scene where she says "Fall" reminded me of the one word commands that The Lich does in Adventure Time
Fujimoto does like Adventure Time a lot, so it's possible. I am not fully familiar with Adventure Time personally so it never came up.
@@MetiNotTheBadGuy His essencially a DnD Lich, Vecna to be more precise, but he still works under Glob (basically God and the Devil) who treats him as a tool to be disposed of as soon as he loses his utility. And considering that there are more totens, Kiga would be Glob in this scenario. So she is probably way more dangerous than she's letting on.
Ohhh, so that's why that panel felt familiar! I honestly felt it was connected to something in my mind but I couldn't find it, even after researching stuff about it. It being a possible reference to the Lich's monologue during the prison escape makes a ton of sense to be honest, not to mention his symbolic meanings tied to death and the end of all life.
Me too but highly doubtful. Panels and scenes with a scary person uttering a one word command is very common in fiction and anime. "Die", for example, is pretty much cliché at this point.
Atlanta is also associated with apples as in one story she makes a challenge to marry any man who can beat her in a race. A man named Hippomenes was able to beat her by tossing golden apples on the race track which due to there beauty Atlanta picked up and lost the race.
Also, falling + apple = Newton's gravity theory
@@mikoajpietrych6168 That's actually a really good point. I'm glad you brought that up.
Reading the falling devil arc weekly was such a fun experience, the way she acted when collecting her ingredients, her fight with Denji, the way she convinced Asa to let go and fall, all of it made FD such an engaging antagonist.
Her appearance was so good that I’m actually fine with her not returning unless it is to see what she can do at a larger percentage of her power, and also to see more interactions with her and Fami since they only talked at the end of the arc.
When the people had the instinct to jump off of the balcony reminds me of the phenomenon called L'appel Du Vide which is when you get an urge to jump when you are very high up
That's interesting. Besides the falling part, it's actually the opposite for me. L'appel du vide is a strong cognitive dissonance where you are very much aware that you don't want to jump but deep inside there's an urge or instinct to jump. Whereas in CSM, they are very consciously choosing this under the influence without misgivings.
your comment on falling devils presence changing how food is used/viewed within the story is on point considering the most recent chapter
Wdym?
@@erenyeager6210 uhhhh head :3
@@erenyeager6210 WHAT? I CAN’T HEAR WHAT YOU’RE SAYING.
Falling is such an intense concept and at first i didn't understand why Fujimoto tackled it like this, but then i saw the beauty of it. Falling is a primal fear, but everyone of us think of jumping when very high up. Also, falling in love? Out of love? To pieces? It gives me the idea of something unavoidable and visceral, we can't avoid falling in nature, it's a phenomenon we can only live and try to recover from.
But most importantly, if we fall it's because we're high up. The fear of falling to me is linked to the creeping terror i feel everytime i am happy.
Absolutely i loved this segment. Must read it again!
Thanks for sharing this, I'll definitely check out all the references! :)
What I like about the Falling Devil is that right after you see her wreaking havoc as well as one shotting the friggin justice devil, you get to see her bowing to this mysterious figure as if a being that powerful would actually do that to anyone, but lo and behold, there stood Fami. Her motives to be the chef of hell is also very interesting, perhaps the most unique one out of the other devils we've seen.
PLEASE DO ONE ON OUR WEAPON DEVILS! These guys are so unique for antagonists and Barem is deserving of a "Building a Bastard" video.
I would save his video until his time in the story is concluded.
Friendly reminder tha they aren't Weapon Devils, but are instead referred to as "weapon humans" accorsing to the title in chapter 87 (The community instead calls them Hybrids, tho).
If you still didn't understand, then the Weapon Devils are the hearts inside of their body (The sword Devil, for example, is a weapon Devil, and is the heart of Miri Sugo who is a Weapon human, aka a Hybrid).
@@abubakarmohamedsoderportgy9327 I know that. I was too lazy to say Hybrids like a normal person and blurted devils.
@@abubakarmohamedsoderportgy9327 Interesting...
So the narrative wants us to associate Denji & the other hybrids (Samurai Sword, Reze, Quanxi, Barem, Miri, etc) with _humanity_ rather than _devil-kind?_
This has a lot of potential interpretations. (Maybe the paranoia and discrimination against Denji & Chainsaw-Man during the Chainsaw-pocalypse arc was inherently irrational?)
All the personalities of stronger devils always throws me for a loop bc of how its never even close to what I expect it to be.
i wasn't expecting to read "stop that, im not a corndog" today, or any day.
12:11 "s e x"
The falling devil being a primal fear is likely also a reference to the quote saying “the two fears inherent in all beings are heights and loud noises”
Yeah I don't think so. The quote is by some self-help guru who's deep into pseudoscience.
I doubt you need him to figure out that falling in almost every sense is horrifying to most people.
@@TheLloydLightning Except for the fact that scientists ran experiments to check whether or not babies had these fears and they were proven to be true
@@hilotakenaka I would love to read more
@@hilotakenaka He isn’t saying you’re _wrong._
You just… Could’ve picked a better source / reason?
Before Falling, there had already been devils that have been shown or said to encompass multiple similar fears, but I believe she's the first one we've gotten a way more detailed look into. Darkness's fear obviously encompasses the fear of the unknown, as that is why we're scared of the dark in the first place, but we never really get to see how that plays into his abilities. We know Justice, Fairness and Equality exist and overlap, so I'm super curious if the Fear of the Unknown Devil is a thing or not.
With Falling, we see her get people to commit suicide, fall emotionally, leading to falling physically. While her powers are so strong this wouldn't be worth mentioning, I have no doubt she'd also be able to make people fall financially, maybe even able to get people to fall in love.
It's just a neat little thing I love about Devils that I like got explored a bit more here.
I wish I could send images on UA-cam so that I could show you how the unknown plays into the Darkness Devils abilities.
-Apart from the obvious fact that we don't fully know how his abilities function (unknown), in chapter 65 D-devil speaks an unknown language, which allowed him to create holes in the villains fiend out of nowhere.
- When Denji makes a contact with the D-Devils forcefield (?), his chainsaws created sparks which illuminated in the darkness. Small humanoid freaks then begin to point at the light.
-Then there's the cute little unknown frog (probably a reference to the greek God of Darkness: Kek). Whenever it ribbits, everyones limbs are suddenly detached from their body (We humans use hands to navigate in the darkness. Without them we are truly lost in the unknown darkness).
There're probably more details that I missed which shows how the D-devil incorporates the unknown into his abilities. But that's all I could gather for now.
@@abubakarmohamedsoderportgy9327 Insane how already well aware I am of all these things but never thought to actually consider them as parts of the "unknown" or aspects of its abilities.
But yeah you're absolutely right, and I guess his sword would also play into that same idea, right? Why he has a sword. Why it has bells. All things that add to the unknown. Feel kind of stupid for not thinking of any of this myself, but hey, that's why I comment my thoughts.
@@the03k Same here honestly, not to mention how the D-Devils introduction already has the cast in a world we at first didn't know about (unknown). Doors being the sky, a large land of just grass, a mist that shrouds them is definitely something connected to how alien that place is to us humans, adding to the unknown factor.
Plus the characters immediately recognizing the place gives us a sense of comfort, only for it to be immediately broken when they seemed nervous and some outright wanted to kill themselves. It builds a sense of security and comfort in the characters having knowledge, only for it to again be dashed away when we saw how absolutely terrified they were which leads to us to being in the unknown on what's happening. I know you probably know these stuff already, but I just like to spout off random nonsense like these lol.
@@elkefransisca3747 Oh you're more than fine, I actively seek out (on twitter and reddit mainly) discussions about CSM, no matter how much repetitions there are in those discussions.
I love me some CSM and love hearing people talk about it.
Plus, Primals are more forces of nature than actual character's, and I doubt Fujimoto plans on introducing many, or even any, more so conversations about them are bound to get repetitive.
That one "fall" panel remind of The Litch from adventure time
24:49 Falling Devil is the most Genuine about her role as the Chef of Hell. It like you mistreat Sanji cooking and be surprise to get Sweet Chin Music your way.
Also, Let us not forget that the Falling we saw in that arc was 50% in strength given the information Fami told us when summoning Guilly
The phrase sweet chin music always fills me with...what I can only describe as mirth
You're incorrect about something. Fami didn't state that the pawns she controls are weakened by exact 50%. Fami instead says this: "The Devils I summon with my power are weak. They can't use their full strength."
This means that the pawns she controls could be even weaker than 50% of their original strength. This makes most sense since Falling Devil would be unfathomably stronger (It's been established in chapter 65 that the Primal Devil are alot more powerful and destructive than "some Gun Devil" who killed 1.2 million in 5 minutes. Weakened Falling Devil, fluctuated the gravity around the world, killing thousands and causing landslides and caveins. This shows that the debuff from Fami is alot higher than 50%. It likely makes her pawns around 85%-90% weaker or something when comparing the Gun Devil to the weakened Falling Devil who was holding back).
@@abubakarmohamedsoderportgy9327
Which would make sense. Unlike makimas chains
The Devil that Fami Summon are generally independent and can disobey Fami orders if they want to.
All in All, Fami is a parasite that needs to use other people to obtain the power needed to fully stand in for Makima (Who was a deitylike figure similar to Sukuna)
@@abubakarmohamedsoderportgy9327falling devil would still destroy gun devil with one shot even in her weakened state
@@erenyeager6210I'm not so sure about that man, dennis was able to hurt her a lot, even though she regenerated. I really doubt dennis could have done that to the gun devil.
This arc having intermingled Asa falling in love with Chainsaw man is... chef's kiss
I’m pretty sure the bird Yoru first appears as is a Potoo, which despite the similarities to owls (nocturnal, large eyes, general body shape) is not related to owls
Another fantastic vid! I've noticed how food is less significant with time (like how Denji eats so much at "Death By Sushi", and doesn't savor a bite {something he would absolutely do in Part 1}), but I forgot just how THOROUGHLY the sanctity of food is marred in Part 2 until this vid.
Also, off-topic: I must have been reading too much Undead Unluck, because I heard about the Justice Devil being killed and thought that meant the concept of Justice would be erased from the world. That's not how it works in CSM, I was just mixing up series' in my head.
Finally! I've been waiting for you to upload more Chainsaw Man.
Yo where we falling?
Tilted Probably
Falling in love bro
tomato town
To hell
Falling devil would absolutely cook in fortnite
I didn't notice 90% of these design elements during ny reading! What an excellent analysis!
Tatsuki is one of the greatest creatives and mangaka of our generation, and possibly ever.
I was just thinking about you doing a chainsaw man analysis video yesterday! Can't wait to see what you got in store for this one.
There is so much R34 of this devil. Not as much as Power or Makima, but enough to give her third place.
I mean, considering she literally appeared naked the first time, it's to be expected I'd say.
Only if you don't count humans like Kobeni or Himeno. Or Reze's human form for that matter.
@@AndreasNicklasson i try not to. Especially Kobeni. She's been through enough, ogling her just feels morally wrong.
how do u know that 🤨🤨🤨
@@gilbertotabares8196 fr I cant just look at kobeni that way, I root for her though
I wish we couldve seen more of the Falling Mommy
I have been looking forward to more Chainsaw Man or Dungeon Meshi content, thank you!
Love the falling devil
I feel like the chef look is actually just as simple as “I’m cooking you up some nice memories of trauma, fuck you”
Only Fujimoto can make an amalgamation of corpses look attractive
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Cool video, please continue to make more ❤
SAMJO JUMPSCARE!!!! I forgor you played limbus company hshshs
food taking a new meaning in light of the newer chapters might be right
something i don't see get brought up at all about her is her design resembling a motherly figure which i think relates to denji's and asa's trauma involving mother figures. denji, in a way, saw makima as a mother figure while asa had trauma from her fall that caused her mother's death and her caretaker(who's an older woman and could be seen as a temporary mother figure for asa) drowning her cat.
I think she is a cook because her ability has something to do with trauma and demons get there power from fear
She can take fear to a whole new level
Shes lived for millions/billions of years so I'm not surprised that she'd have a hobby of her own (especially when she has that kind of personality). Also, the fact that she is a cook and also is an ally of the Famine Devil is a fun detail.
18:09 Plucky and the bird like devils in general could also be a reference to Plato's man or a featherless avian biped
You really cooked with this one
Something else you can see from a thematic sense is Denji’s further and deeper fall into depression between part 1 and 2, and now what’s gonna potentially happen with him post death by sushi incident. Denji is constantly falling in part 2 and hasn’t had a moment to get back up yet or even hit the ground in the first place.
The Menu was a big inspiration was it now? If that's the case, can The Falling Devil make a classic well made cheeseburger?
Only time will tell.
@@damonlam9145 That was the one dish that Slowik was happy to make.
@@claytonrios1
just do NOT ask where the meat came from.
You forgot that the power is a reference to Fujimoto himself trying to levitate 😛
Really sick video, a lot of stuff I never noticed with Fallin- holy shit is that Samjo?
Maybe i`m a little deep on this but, thanks to this vid i get some idea about the primal fears. Maybe they are associated to the end of the world on some kind. Like darkness devil is the death of the sun or the absolute darkness. And Falling devil representing another alternative ending of the world that being the end of gravitation.
It should be clarified that chicken legs do not have more joints than human legs. All vertebrates essentially have the same architecture. The same type of limbs, like hind limbs (aka legs), are just modified for a specific purpose.
Like all birds, chickens are digitigrade, meaning that they walk on their "toes". The part of the leg that juts forwards instead of bending backwards like our knees is actually its ankle. They actually do have knees, which are usually hidden by feathers.
However, I noticed that, like the humans arms, the featherless wings on the falling devil's back also have extra joints (quadruple jointed instead of triple-jointed). Again, wings are just specialized forelimbs, equivalent to arms. It's an impressive attention to detail on Fujimoto's part.
Might be something, but all of Denji's interactions with Barem remind me of the temptations of the devil to Jesus like in Paradise Regained, which is Miltons sequel after Paradise Lost.
Patema Inverted is an amazing movie. Awesome plug, I can see the resemblence.
by the way chicken legs aren't triple jointed, pretty much all vertebrates share the same body plan; sometimes have elongated bits making them _look_ different
After reading the latest chapters, I'd say that you were onto something when you said the falling devil's appearance implies a change on the presentation of food in the story. Wow
You mention the war devil original appeared as an owl. I wonder if that's to moke Athena(the Greek god of strategic war and wisdom) or maybe was Athena in the past?
I would also like to highlight the fact that she is also terrifyingly strong. Not only she viewed Denji more of a nuisance than a threat but also just her being on the human world only for a couple of hours caused mayor damage all over the world. Let me remind you, she was not there to cause damage, she was there to prepare a meal. Imagine the damage she (and Darkness too) could cause if her objective was to cause damage
really displayed the danger of a primal fear. now imagine death
Yu-Gi-Oh mentioned 🎉
The king returned to the chainsaw man lore 👑🛐🛐🛐🛐
Good character analysis like this is so hard to find, keep it up homie.
13:57 oh i totally forgot about that, its very 15 years old of her lmao
for me the "vonla" dish is a mistranslation from japanese, because if they went for a purely phonetical writing, it could be "vont la", which in french means "going there" (plural, 3rd person), so it would fit that the "essence of going there" would be the one moving people the most out of all the dishes
The association to the Moon that the Falling Devil has coule be more about orbits and gravity? Since an Orbit could be considered an infinite state of Falling?
For the falling devil chef theme I thought it might of been linked to Tyoko Ghoul because there’s one scene where it shows the ghouls gathering and eating the corpses of humans who fell off roads and died in car accidents. But that’s probably just me.
i didnt even watch 10 seconds of this video but i LOVE the motif in chainsawman of food becoming something bad for denji. i already forgot half of the references to this but like, for example, nayutas head in the most recent chapter. denji is gonna hate food after this.
I’m not sure if the expression exists the same in Japanese, but I think it’s neat that the Falling Devil’s body “falls into place”
Didn’t expect Bucky to be used in this vid, and for it it make sense
one word, would
As a chef for 20 years i can appreciate the design of the falling devil 👨🍳
9:05 what if you just sincerely don’t care or can’t care? What happens when they get someone with such an insane chemical imbalance that there’s no reaction whatsoever?
I ask because the idea of literally boring something to death is...amazing to me
I always wonder what would the 2008 film would look like in Fujimoto's vision, I was pleasantly surprised when I saw The parallels for the first time.
Honestly this makes me think part 2 will end with Denji and Asa eating a meal together.
I know it seems random but her first power really reminds me of that episode of codelyoko were the world was slowly turning upside down and near the end of the episode there is a shot were everyone was falling in the sky right before everything got fixed/resetted that shit scared me so much when I was little that watching the sky gave me panic attacks 😅 even now sometimes if I watch it too much I have the need to grab onto something
you should do one for yoru and asa (love all your videos man, keep going)
Really glad you decided to address this one, would be better if you gave one on denji or Yoru(even Fami) Down the line.
The smt music is a real nice touch, lol. Feels outta place, but oddly fitting when gazing upon the designs of the Devils
EDIT: so basically: she's the representation of Asa's journey/trauma, and the result and consequences of Denji's actions. Her being tied to both of them represents a, well, tie they share on a spiritual and emotional level. Their relationship, journey, and consequences of their lives culminated into a perversion of itself, but one meant to be overcame.
The background of the video is also the Shinjuku Demon Haunt from SMTV Vengeance.
Funny how the moment a primal devil is introduced and after their arc concluded it immediately flip the story part on his head.
I like to think that there are some names in manga meant to be read as a Japanese and English pun.
For example, I wouldn't be shocked if Denji's name being a portmanteau of "tenshi" was as intended as it sounding like "dingy"; gloomy and drab.
great video
Hear me out, “The Heaven Stairway Incident….but in Japan.”
Oh i do love the ds2 intro
Power😭😭
Maybe Quanxi and Kishibe killed something that lead to the start of all this.
We out here
I dont know whay you're reffering to, but if you're talking about the Falling Devil, then It was Fami who summoned it btw (not kishibe/quanxi).
When fisrt looking at the design and name I thought the reason she looks like a chef is because of accindents with in kitchens because of falling.
I remember her aesthetic being really popular.
Wait, is that the Hell's Chicken battle theme?
Meti is like the Nardwuar of manga community cuz how tf do you find these references?!?!
Hold up let em cook
13:38
So, this is basically the Japanese version of, "The stars look beautiful tonight. You know what else is beautiful?"
Muscleman: MY MOM!!
@@jacobpartin4553✋ 👻
you “ate” with this analysis🫡
Black chainsaw man is back! Pochita has the control back
Just a inconsequential fwiw: As a French speaker, vonla has no obvious connection to voler (to fly), at least in my mind
I wonder what the Fire Devil or Drowning Devil would look like?
HEAR ME OUT
youve fallen for her, huh
@@chillcapsaicin6109ughhhh!
Fujimoto after making the hottest CSM character a fucked up body carrying a disembodied head
YEAHHHHHHH 🎉🎉🎉
2:58 this is your generic Madoka Magica witch
Patema Inverted mentioned!
Love from a KalebAI and Vaush fan!
Don't go skydiving around Makimas place! Trust me you'll regret it!
Despite falling devils quirky and rather polite nature during her arc I don’t think this is how she or I mean it… really acts, I think fami purely made her act this way always as a weak boss for Asa and Yoru to work together and bond, which is really unfortunate if true given that if falling ever returns it’ll most likely look completely different like it’s little statue - basically a humanoid chicken body with big boobs and Multiple arms and no head, and its behavior would probably be like Darkness… just… stoic, emotionless, empty, violent and very dangerous
Akaza : why hasn't he made am video about me yet ❄❄❄
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I miss falling arc this sushi arc got me fucked up
Please, do a video of the Chainsaw Devil himself
Wow new vid