The Railway Review To The Class 390

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  • Опубліковано 17 вер 2024
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  • @MaverickHunterDaniel
    @MaverickHunterDaniel  3 роки тому +16

    I would offer a prize for anyone who guesses all the exterior locations, but due to them being held in a warehouse just outside of Liverpool, they've all been stolen. Oh well. So um, free internet points for anyone who guesses the exterior locations instead?

    • @317Dan
      @317Dan 3 роки тому +5

      Back at it again lol
      0:27 Sandwell & Dudley
      0:30 London Euston
      0:36 Kidsgrove
      0:48 Sandbach
      1:01 Tring
      1:12 Apsley
      1:19 Biggleswade
      1:28 Romford
      1:40 Rugeley Trent Valley
      1:53 Wolverton
      2:00 Leighton Buzzard
      2:07 Lea Hall
      2:17 Stoke-on-Trent
      2:37 Hendon
      2:38 South Kenton
      2:48 Carpenders Park
      3:01 Kings Langley
      3:10 Rugby
      3:19 Chelford
      3:33 Levenshulme
      3:43 Birmingham International
      4:05 Stone
      4:15 Cheddington
      4:21 Heaton Chapel
      5:54 Five Ways
      7:43 London Euston
      9:54 Lichfield Trent Valley
      10:07 Marston Green
      10:21 Watford Junction
      10:40 Liverpool South Parkway
      11:00 Macclesfield

    • @MaverickHunterDaniel
      @MaverickHunterDaniel  3 роки тому +5

      Yay, congrats on getting them all again :) Having them all listed out makes me feel proud of the variety of locations me and JVids filmed at.

    • @MaverickHunterDaniel
      @MaverickHunterDaniel  3 роки тому

      He listed that one, Lea Hall

    • @BethanyBeckett-h2b
      @BethanyBeckett-h2b 4 місяці тому

      @@MaverickHunterDanielu forgot about Liverpool lime street for the class 390

  • @threeninetyexpress9243
    @threeninetyexpress9243 3 роки тому +22

    Great Video mate! These are my favourite trains. I thought I’d let you know that I’ve spoken to staff at Avanti about the pendolino refurbishment and they said that they are doing everything they can to make sure the pendolinos don’t have horrible seats like the IETS. Let’s hope that Avanti don’t put the diamond hard seats in the pendolinos. That would be a tragedy.

    • @MaverickHunterDaniel
      @MaverickHunterDaniel  3 роки тому +8

      Good. If Fainsa get the seating contracts, we riot.

    • @threeninetyexpress9243
      @threeninetyexpress9243 3 роки тому +2

      It will be the biggest railway related riot in railway history. Also, since you never mentioned in the video, do you prefer the pendolinos or the voyagers?

    • @MaverickHunterDaniel
      @MaverickHunterDaniel  3 роки тому +7

      Pendolinos *by far.*

    • @threeninetyexpress9243
      @threeninetyexpress9243 3 роки тому +3

      Good. That’s the answer I was hoping for. 😁👍🏻

    • @lnerfan4468
      @lnerfan4468 2 роки тому +2

      @@threeninetyexpress9243 he loathes the voyagers after watching his review of the voyagers I can understand why

  • @SuperalbsTravels
    @SuperalbsTravels 2 роки тому +6

    Wouldn't call the Finnish network integrated. 🤔😉

  • @LordEverythingtrains
    @LordEverythingtrains 3 роки тому +10

    Such amazing machines. Il say this, best trains to ever run on the wcml.

  • @jamtart606
    @jamtart606 3 роки тому +15

    Weirdly enough, I travelled back from Lancaster on a 390 a few days ago, very pleasant it was. (I've travelled on these loads of times, first time being around 2006-7)
    I pretty much agree with everything you said in this video, beats any IET or Voyager
    Also, 390119 looks pog as F if you ask me, might be a little over the top, but I like a pride train.

  • @MatthewK421
    @MatthewK421 3 роки тому +9

    The titling becomes a problem when you’re moving around the train, which if you aren’t careful enough can cause you to bump into some people.

    • @MaverickHunterDaniel
      @MaverickHunterDaniel  3 роки тому +4

      Get good then lol

    • @MatthewK421
      @MatthewK421 3 роки тому +3

      @@MaverickHunterDaniel what should I sign up for then, the mlg 360 no scope sniper course?

  • @WellHelloThere_Donny44
    @WellHelloThere_Donny44 Місяць тому +1

    The Longest journey I ever did was when Virgin Trains still existed, when I travelled from Stafford - London Euston

  • @Yawwie
    @Yawwie 3 роки тому +8

    They're nice looking trains, but having ridden on one myself, it feels like your travelling in a mailbox due to how cramped the interior is

    • @MaverickHunterDaniel
      @MaverickHunterDaniel  3 роки тому +5

      I only found the standard toilet and the gangways a bit on the cramped side myself. Still doesn't compare to the 720's gangways if you ask me.

    • @jackphilpott7520
      @jackphilpott7520 3 роки тому +1

      Sup yaw yaw

  • @tenny_tenten
    @tenny_tenten 2 роки тому +2

    8:30-8:59 lmao that coach is a standard premium, but its first class minus complimentary meals

  • @LHoriginal
    @LHoriginal 3 роки тому +3

    One of my favourite trains

  • @FarmYardGaming
    @FarmYardGaming 3 місяці тому +1

    Since the refurb is apparently complete now I'm interested to see what this train would be like. Tickets don't appear ridiculous unlike LNER - I say that because they actually kept an open return option.
    mind you those first class prices are eye-watering

    • @MaverickHunterDaniel
      @MaverickHunterDaniel  3 місяці тому +2

      The refurbishment butchured riding these trains for me. Those new seats are awful.

    • @FarmYardGaming
      @FarmYardGaming 3 місяці тому +1

      classic uk train refurb after all 🗿

  • @sharko2517
    @sharko2517 Рік тому +1

    Last weekend i rode a new pendolino and an old one a few things to say that
    1) window alignment is better to some degree
    2) at seat power points are very useful with bigger tables (except no cup holders so your drink sometimes slides)
    3) the seats arent the iet seats, however they arent as comfortable as the virgin trains seats
    4) first class and standard premium still have the same seats (i think standard premium is useless tbh)
    5) the passenger info screens on the outside are more vibrant (but the ones inside werent working for whatever reason)
    6) i love the shop so much idk why
    Overall the new pendolinos are okay aside from the seats themselves it was a solid upgrade

    • @MaverickHunterDaniel
      @MaverickHunterDaniel  Рік тому

      Thanks. I've heard bad things about the seats and I did quickly try one at New Street and I didn't like it to say the least.

  • @LucyMichela
    @LucyMichela 2 роки тому +4

    I remember when i didn't even know a thing about these trains. Now I use them fortnightly. I love them. If Angel Trains ruin the interiors though I will kill 🤣

  • @LP_LP_LP_LP
    @LP_LP_LP_LP 3 роки тому +6

    The pendolinos were actually originally going to be 8 cars, and they were built as 8 car sets but before entering service they extended them to 9 cars

    • @MaverickHunterDaniel
      @MaverickHunterDaniel  3 роки тому +2

      Yeah I didn't bother mentioning that here since this video was already quite long in comparison to other railway reviews and it was so minor.

    • @LP_LP_LP_LP
      @LP_LP_LP_LP 3 роки тому +1

      Fair enough, i was just pointing it out in case you didn't know.

    • @MaverickHunterDaniel
      @MaverickHunterDaniel  3 роки тому

      @@LP_LP_LP_LP Yeah, it's fine, don't worry :)

    • @LP_LP_LP_LP
      @LP_LP_LP_LP 3 роки тому

      @@MaverickHunterDaniel P.S you forgot to link that video in the description ;)

    • @MaverickHunterDaniel
      @MaverickHunterDaniel  3 роки тому

      Apologies. Just updated the description.

  • @mattevans4377
    @mattevans4377 3 роки тому +4

    The 5 car 805s are the bi-mode trains meant to replace the Voyagers. Still a bit of a downgrade though, and they should really be 7 cars themselves as the Voyagers already have capacity issues, and it's only going to get worse.

    • @MaverickHunterDaniel
      @MaverickHunterDaniel  3 роки тому +3

      That's why I said IETs instead of the class numbers. Either way, they'll be running services both served by the 221s and 390s so my point stands.

    • @mattevans4377
      @mattevans4377 3 роки тому +1

      @@MaverickHunterDaniel Well I think the plan is to have only the 7 car class 807s work alongside the 390s, which is still silly, but not as bad as 5 cars. I guess it's a pointless conversation anyway, and it's just me being pedantic.

    • @MaverickHunterDaniel
      @MaverickHunterDaniel  3 роки тому +2

      @@mattevans4377 Just a bit too pedantic here ;)

    • @LordEverythingtrains
      @LordEverythingtrains 3 роки тому +2

      I sorta understand why avanti is gonna use 5 car trains to replace the voyagers, but why oh why would you use non tilting trains to replace tilting trains, and why would you use 7 car trains to support 9 and 11 car units that get overcrowded sometimes. IET syndrome, if XC doesn't get IETs to replace the voyagers in 10 years or so il be sp surprised, lol

  • @alfiehnotts
    @alfiehnotts 3 роки тому +5

    Nice trains, I find find the seat backs to be quite high *and the window alignment* but other than that, nice trains.

  • @cam43002
    @cam43002 3 роки тому +6

    Never really liked the interior of the 390 it just feels so claustrophobic compared to the hst or 91 sets

  • @jakehudson7118
    @jakehudson7118 Місяць тому

    Still yet to ride on one of these, I think I might plan a trip on one next time I go to London

  • @FarmYardGaming
    @FarmYardGaming 20 днів тому

    I finally went on these on Monday. They're awesome to watch as they fly by Berkhamsted, the tilt is uncanny but man it's a bit cramped. Plus the window alignment really is cack. But honestly it is a fun train, and arguably better than the IET for the fact it can fly round curves at terrifying speeds.

    • @FarmYardGaming
      @FarmYardGaming 20 днів тому

      Trying to look out the window was awkward because it just looked like I was staring through the glasses of the girl next to me, who I remember was watching Bob's Burgers or something

  • @WellHelloThere_Donny44
    @WellHelloThere_Donny44 Місяць тому

    as of this year (2024), I heard one time that one of the first class coaches on the 11 coach 390 and one of the standard coaches on the 9 coach 390, will get turned into a business premier coach for business people and meetings etc which will have a 3+2 seating, not sure if this will happen though.

  • @testing_oscar
    @testing_oscar 3 роки тому +2

    actually a good train you tuber lez goo

  • @user-nr9we2ik3u
    @user-nr9we2ik3u 21 день тому

    0:20. Oops train off the track in to ground. 😂

  • @nickbarber2080
    @nickbarber2080 2 роки тому +2

    Two hundred years of building railway passenger carriages and STILL they can't line the seats up with the windows....

  • @Speedster-jw7qx
    @Speedster-jw7qx 3 роки тому +2

    I've been waiting for this this better be good
    edit: its good apart from the grayrigg reference at the start that was not nice

    • @MaverickHunterDaniel
      @MaverickHunterDaniel  3 роки тому +1

      I don't tend to react well to those saying "This better be good" almost as if it's a threat. As for the Grayrigg joke? Weeeeeell, comedy = tragedy + time and I feel like joking about an accident that happened 14 years ago is fine in my book, especially due to the casualty rate being so low.

  • @MatthewK421
    @MatthewK421 3 роки тому +2

    the intro is class

    • @MaverickHunterDaniel
      @MaverickHunterDaniel  3 роки тому +1

      Unfortunately, laughing at it automatically reserves a chamber for you in Hell's Ironic Punishment Chamber. I have 6 reserved already. :(

    • @MatthewK421
      @MatthewK421 3 роки тому +1

      @@MaverickHunterDaniel im sure theres a way you can bypass it

    • @MaverickHunterDaniel
      @MaverickHunterDaniel  3 роки тому +1

      Perhaps.

  • @GWVillager
    @GWVillager 2 роки тому +2

    I have to disagree with you at 08:28. The first class service on pendolinos is second to none and the seats are very comfortable, as with standard.

  • @West_Midlands.Trainspotting
    @West_Midlands.Trainspotting 2 роки тому +1

    Glad Coventry got a decent image and not a pile of rubbish :)

  • @FABhomespotting
    @FABhomespotting 3 роки тому +1

    There are gods up there, my birthday is in 2 weeks, I think this was a good present (coincidence)

    • @MaverickHunterDaniel
      @MaverickHunterDaniel  3 роки тому +2

      Purely coincidence. It would've been finished a few days ago if I wasn't lazy. Still, hope you have a good one :)

  • @Frowny13
    @Frowny13 3 роки тому +2

    I consider the Class 390 to be the closest thing in the UK to the Acela Express back here in the states. Both are high speed tilting trains built for routes with lots of curves. Of course the big difference is the Acela is six coaches long and uses powerheads.
    Also am I the only one who really dislikes the VT flowing silk livery? Like I understand why it exists but they could've done more with the styling. Even the styling that they did do at the front is overdone IMO.

    • @MaverickHunterDaniel
      @MaverickHunterDaniel  3 роки тому +1

      Flowing silk looks great m8. They picked it to be simple so that the new franchise would have an easier time debranding the units.

  • @Westlondontransportguy7045
    @Westlondontransportguy7045 Рік тому

    My longest journey on a pendolino was 3 hours from London to Manchester Piccadilly which stopped at Milton Keynes Rugby Tamworth Lichfield trent Valley Stoke on trent Macclesfield and Stockport

  • @millercool21
    @millercool21 3 роки тому +1

    Yes!!!

  • @flaviopaquete800
    @flaviopaquete800 Рік тому +2

    0:33 electric *multiple* unit

  • @EuropeanRailfan
    @EuropeanRailfan Рік тому

    luv the Alstom Savigliano plant

  • @aalexazander
    @aalexazander 3 роки тому +3

    hs2 class 390s are gonna be nice if they can reach 140mph

    • @MaverickHunterDaniel
      @MaverickHunterDaniel  3 роки тому +9

      Assuming the 390s actually are allowed to run on HS2 or even if HS2 is finished before said trains rust away.

    • @aalexazander
      @aalexazander 3 роки тому +3

      @@MaverickHunterDaniel i dont think hs2 done until at least 2030 imo and god knows what the state of the railway industry

  • @TamworthTheOfficial
    @TamworthTheOfficial 3 роки тому +2

    pro video

  • @LBG252_TheEastLondonBusGuy
    @LBG252_TheEastLondonBusGuy Місяць тому

    The Class 390 Is The Best Train!

  • @TheKentBusboy
    @TheKentBusboy 8 місяців тому

    Im not going to heaven when i searched up 390 119

  • @Snivy_Films
    @Snivy_Films 3 роки тому +2

    I got a question for you Daniel regarding liveries.
    What is your thoughts on the pride liveries from Virgin and illuminati west coast?

  • @tastyblox
    @tastyblox Рік тому

    Just remember, its all fun and games until the train tilts and the person with the food trolley spills everything all over a karen passenger, then she tries to sue Avanti

  • @AymanTravelTransport
    @AymanTravelTransport 2 роки тому +1

    Hold up, so you're telling me a Pacer (0.48 m/s^2) has better acceleration than a Pendolino (0.43 m/s^2)??

    • @MaverickHunterDaniel
      @MaverickHunterDaniel  2 роки тому +2

      Yeah. Power to weight ratio is one thing. Also keep in mind that's the maximum acceleration rate. The 390 still ends up beating a pacer to 75mph anyway.

  • @gabrielstravels
    @gabrielstravels 5 місяців тому

    I love these - yesterday I went to Watford Junction, Hemel Hempstead and Berkhamsted. At Watford Junction, in the space of just 10-15 minutes I counted a total of 6 Pendolinos in both directions!
    Also, is it a bad thing that I still have the pleasure to call these trains *Virgin Pendolinos* ?

    • @MaverickHunterDaniel
      @MaverickHunterDaniel  5 місяців тому

      Eh, it's hard not to. Frankly they've now been butched Avanti. Both in terms of reputation and their recent refurbishment :(

    • @gabrielstravels
      @gabrielstravels 5 місяців тому

      @@MaverickHunterDaniel Avanti have been to known to be a lot more unreliable than Virgin - saw a lot of cancelled trains at Birmingham New Street run by them

  • @HamishG199
    @HamishG199 4 місяці тому

    0:53 As a Nunny this is true

  • @carnivorousvegan69
    @carnivorousvegan69 3 роки тому +1

    My fav train on the ecml or wcml was the ic 125 very fit for that job

  • @anthonylewin6935
    @anthonylewin6935 Рік тому

    I always call it the chunder commit I always feel sick on it

  • @FABhomespotting
    @FABhomespotting 2 роки тому +1

    Not saying you have to but something which I think some people (inc me) would one day love to see is a MHD style rant on FirstCapital Connect. Not a request was just a thought...

  • @LBG252_TheEastLondonBusGuy
    @LBG252_TheEastLondonBusGuy 25 днів тому

    Well, Review The Refurbished Pendolino, It's A Good Train.

    • @FarmYardGaming
      @FarmYardGaming 24 дні тому

      He doesn't take requests but at least say please

  • @brickleyyard4966
    @brickleyyard4966 8 місяців тому

    Hey gess what your right you have been worng before hs2 will very much be connected to the Europ high speed
    As hs2 will be linked at some point to hs1 wich is linked to France

  • @thomsonfly645k
    @thomsonfly645k Рік тому

    That introduction was poor taste, but was funny all the same (I guess I'm not going to heaven either). Also, having only been on the Virgin Trains pendolino twice I have to say I never noticed a lot of the negative things, I was just impressed by the speed and tilt. It certainly wasn't cramped for the Birmingham to London Euston and back journeys I did.

    • @MaverickHunterDaniel
      @MaverickHunterDaniel  Рік тому

      It was, but it's important to have a degree of self awareness when joking involving tragedies like this. As we both have here.

  • @sharko2517
    @sharko2517 Рік тому

    One thing im confused with is when i rode on a pendolino my speedometer said the top speed was 133 mph (could have been a miscalculation, i can show proof) has the speed on pendolinos been unlimited

  • @Westlondontransportguy7045
    @Westlondontransportguy7045 Рік тому +1

    Pls don't use the toilet while the train is moving

    • @MaverickHunterDaniel
      @MaverickHunterDaniel  Рік тому +1

      The Class 390's toilets don't dump waste onto the track so it's perfectly fine to use it whether it's stationary or not.

    • @Westlondontransportguy7045
      @Westlondontransportguy7045 Рік тому +1

      @MaverickHunterDaniel i was hitting the walls since the train was rocking BTW it was unit 390001

    • @MaverickHunterDaniel
      @MaverickHunterDaniel  Рік тому +1

      I misread the comment, sorry! I understand what you mean now. Just be careful when aiming :D

  • @blitz2289
    @blitz2289 Рік тому

    The IETs will replace the 220/221

  • @MarstonValeProjectOfficial
    @MarstonValeProjectOfficial 9 місяців тому

    Oh, ok

  • @user-nr9we2ik3u
    @user-nr9we2ik3u Місяць тому

    Train inside small like bus 5:05

  • @BACConcordeproductions
    @BACConcordeproductions 6 місяців тому

    390 119 💀💀💀

  • @ChineseJohnCena
    @ChineseJohnCena Рік тому

    What was the number of the first voyager unit at 2:06?

  • @MarstonValeProjectOfficial
    @MarstonValeProjectOfficial 10 місяців тому

    First off, that's an unfrefurbished set, second off, that was standard premium, first class is in the next 3 coaches

    • @MaverickHunterDaniel
      @MaverickHunterDaniel  10 місяців тому

      And thirdly, which you would've known if you bothered to watch the video before commenting, the refurbished units didn't exist at the time of this video's production. Don't be a smart arse.

    • @MarstonValeProjectOfficial
      @MarstonValeProjectOfficial 10 місяців тому

      I literly live on the WCML (West Coast Main Line) I think I know my stuff thank you very much!

    • @MaverickHunterDaniel
      @MaverickHunterDaniel  10 місяців тому

      @@MarstonValeProjectOfficial Thanks for telling me random internet stranger.

    • @MarstonValeProjectOfficial
      @MarstonValeProjectOfficial 9 місяців тому

      Also you might wanna do another review on the refurbed pendolino, FC is so diff from SC

    • @MaverickHunterDaniel
      @MaverickHunterDaniel  9 місяців тому

      @@MarstonValeProjectOfficial I don't take requests and I have no desire to review this train again.

  • @somax1259
    @somax1259 Рік тому

    change my mind
    390>373/374
    have a nice day :)

  • @maidenhead7760
    @maidenhead7760 Рік тому

    Don’t get the joke at the start

  • @physiocrat7143
    @physiocrat7143 2 місяці тому

    Horrible trains. Cramped seats, misaligned to the letter box windows, smell of piddle.
    They are luxurious compared to the Hitachis, though. Every generation of new trains is worse than its predecessors.

  • @NickelPlateMxne
    @NickelPlateMxne 3 роки тому

    Are the 390s diesel?