Knotting: The Royal hobby you've never heard of - A forgotten textile craft

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  • Опубліковано 20 жов 2024

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  • @SongSpinnerUK
    @SongSpinnerUK  2 дні тому +9

    0:51 Overview
    2:35 Knotting Tutorial
    5:54 Including other knots in your knot
    6:52 The History of Knotting
    8:47 The Music of Knotting
    10:11 Societal Perceptions
    13:14 Socioeconomic aspects - i.e did you do it if you weren't rich?
    14:34 Conclusion - where did it go?

  • @Shizukanexen
    @Shizukanexen 23 години тому +116

    Lmao I clicked on this cause I thought for sure there would be come inappropriate comments about knotting, but lmao there are NONE?! Disappointed. Stayed cause this is interesting. Great video!

    • @zenmaster8
      @zenmaster8 22 години тому +6

      same here

    • @dreamchaser003
      @dreamchaser003 21 годину тому +4

      I did the same thing 😂

    • @IneptOrange
      @IneptOrange 21 годину тому +10

      I think we're all too broken to return to the outside world.

    • @klikkolee
      @klikkolee 18 годин тому +9

      I clicked because I wanted to learn about the forgotten textile craft, but I definitely went to the comments first to see if there were comments like that

    • @basura3787
      @basura3787 16 годин тому +1

      That's half of the reason I'm here the other is cuz I like textile crafts

  • @GTaichou
    @GTaichou 8 годин тому +27

    So glad tatting was mentioned! I came here because I saw the shuttle and thought IS THIS TATTING?! I love lost crafts so much :)

    • @flootzavut30daychallenge
      @flootzavut30daychallenge 2 години тому

      Saaaaame. Also you could 100% do this with a tatting shuttle, though idk if I could convince my hands not to tat 😅

    • @Marjax
      @Marjax 2 години тому

      I tried sooo hard to make tatting work. My great grandmother's were so pretty

    • @dawnbaker9274
      @dawnbaker9274 Годину тому

      Whew. I'm not the only one.

  • @pauljarine
    @pauljarine 8 годин тому +18

    You had me at 17th century smut.

  • @amazinggrace5692
    @amazinggrace5692 9 годин тому +9

    The Earl of “Knotting-ham”

  • @KatMByrne
    @KatMByrne Годину тому +2

    This was lovely! All hail the hyper-fixated Yarn Goblin long may she knot!

  • @rosateresacastro-vargas8592
    @rosateresacastro-vargas8592 Годину тому +4

    I clicked because I remember learning in the 3rd/4th grade that the Arawak Indians, Native Americans, and original inhabitants of Puerto Rico (where I'm from) used to knot. If I remember correctly, I'm 75 now, 3rd grade was a while back, the medicine man/shaman used the knots to remember the history of the tribe/group when he recited it in ceremonies. I believe that this tradition is still practiced in some Native groups. Interesting how a group of people may have used knots importantly, while another group trivialized it.
    Thanks for your presentation. It was informative and amusing.

  • @whoareyoulookingfor
    @whoareyoulookingfor 21 годину тому +95

    this video is made infinitely funnier by the complete lack of jokes about knotting on the internet today

  • @yetanotherentity
    @yetanotherentity 19 годин тому +34

    If you had told me 20 minutes ago that someone could make a talk on Knotting entertaining and downright funny, i would've asked what you were smoking.
    You, my friend, are fantastic. Liked, subbed, shared, and currently commenting. Will next go binge on your backlog.
    Thanks very much! 🎉

    • @mariawhite7337
      @mariawhite7337 16 годин тому +1

      Oh I know of some REALLY entertaining knotting.

    • @SongSpinnerUK
      @SongSpinnerUK  14 годин тому +2

      ​@@mariawhite7337I guess I did open the floodgates with my mentions of smut 😅

    • @LedgerAndLace
      @LedgerAndLace 8 годин тому

      Same. 🙂

  • @phdiva1939
    @phdiva1939 4 години тому +5

    What’s that I see? A new hobby on the horizon? Yes. Thank you.

  • @dawsie
    @dawsie 13 годин тому +12

    I had been toying with the idea of making a knotted cord for a garment I’m making. I just liked the look and feel of the knots, not knowing knotting was such a thing 🤣😂should have known better as there are very few new ideas🤣😂🤷‍♀️at least I can say it’s historical accurate to my dress design after all😉
    Thanks for sharing, 🤔again the YT algorithm at work before I even get to ask the question 🤣😂

  • @kellysaderholm6741
    @kellysaderholm6741 14 годин тому +14

    I loved this so much! Hyperfocus on obscure fiber art? Oh yes please❤

  • @heidibock1017
    @heidibock1017 9 годин тому +8

    That 1859 book's answer sounds more like "We forgot what it is, but we can't admit it."

  • @nadurkee46
    @nadurkee46 2 години тому +1

    Well, what a fun find. Thanks for the fun history lesson and craft.

  • @christineg8151
    @christineg8151 17 годин тому +18

    This was fascinating! As someone who suffers from a similar malady, I would love to hear more about your attempts to pick up other random archaic fiber crafting. The list of heritage crafts as a source for inspiration is genius!

    • @SongSpinnerUK
      @SongSpinnerUK  14 годин тому +6

      Oh there've been many less successful attempts, sprang being a notable recent one 😂

    • @andyjudd9686
      @andyjudd9686 5 годин тому +3

      I've just discovered the list of heritage crafts. I've added a number to my bucket list of craft to try... And now I've added this.
      Did you know there is an International Guild of Knot Tyres? It doesn't cover this though. I was a member but never found a use for knots.

  • @xNjaMx
    @xNjaMx Годину тому +1

    oh my gosh, you have such an engaging manner of speech, i'm immeditely drawn in

  • @alexandratomczyk
    @alexandratomczyk 13 годин тому +3

    Fab video, thanks for the tutorial and history.
    I love the “so common description is unnecessary”, gives the same energy as an entry into a Polish dictionary for horse which says “everyone knows what a horse is”. 🫡😃

  • @tux_duh
    @tux_duh 2 години тому +1

    As someone with a high interest in folk magic, i need one of these bad, knot magic would look so killer

  • @Iratepandabear
    @Iratepandabear 3 години тому +2

    I very much misinterpreted the title of the video but I am extremely happy to be here anyway!!!

  • @littlewickedlaugh1216
    @littlewickedlaugh1216 День тому +16

    I feel like knotting might have been looked down upon once tatting which has more designs and is more difficult became popular. Maybe the idea that only people who were dumb would do knotting when tatting was available? Who knows!

  • @heatherreadsreddit8579
    @heatherreadsreddit8579 11 годин тому +5

    Sometimes the algorithm sends me rare jewels. Had to subscribe, both for the interesting topic, and for your fabulous humor!

  • @user-wk1mw9nj3i76
    @user-wk1mw9nj3i76 2 години тому +1

    Well, this little entertaining gem of a video was pushed to me, so I’m just writing a comment to say, “well done and fascinating!” Makes me want to learn more about the possibilities in knotting and tatting, too. I love old creativities being revived!

  • @toscatattertail9813
    @toscatattertail9813 8 годин тому +7

    This is so much fun to watch, as someone who learned most of the "lost" needle arts (from pulled thread embroider, through cut thread work, then on to hand knotted netting and filet lace, into tatting and bobbin lace on to the crochet and knitting you see around now.) But this would be an excellent way to introduce shuttle work that could lead to hand knotted nets and and later tatting.

    • @susanhunter8126
      @susanhunter8126 5 годин тому +1

      My grandmother’s tatted lace was more delicate and more beautiful than her crocheted work. But I could not learn it. Susan

  • @wisecoconut5
    @wisecoconut5 14 годин тому +6

    Was this the most boring thing on UA-cam? A frayed knot! 😂😂😂 It's 2 a.m. in Kansas, and I can't sleep. But I have been mightily educated and entertained. Alas, it ends too soon.

  • @nataliebland3078
    @nataliebland3078 15 годин тому +6

    I’ve been interested in historical textile recreation stuff for a while, but I’ve never heard anyone mention this before! Really glad the algorithm put you in my feed

  • @hazeldavis3176
    @hazeldavis3176 День тому +9

    You had me at craft necromancy

  • @kelliecorum5427
    @kelliecorum5427 3 години тому

    ❤ TFS I love this!

  • @MrsSweetpeach
    @MrsSweetpeach 2 години тому

    This was an incredibly fun video. I enjoyed it so much I watched it twice. And subscribed to you.

  • @Geyser39
    @Geyser39 12 хвилин тому

    "Rich mines of hot love" sounds like an AI-generated romance novel title that got fed through a woodchipper and reassembled by Google Translate!
    Love to hear about more obscure forms of fiber arts! It feels like knotting is the long-lost parent of tatting.

  • @ZiaElohka
    @ZiaElohka 5 годин тому +1

    I love your energy and sense of humour. So I subscribed.

  • @anassorbestiak
    @anassorbestiak День тому +16

    I am going to start saying plop, it will elevate my results and my fun

    • @sahnenusss
      @sahnenusss 22 години тому +1

      In Chile, when something goes wrong or is unexpected we say plop

  • @EmL-kg5gn
    @EmL-kg5gn 11 годин тому +2

    Omg I love this! And I absolutely adore the way you explain things and your humour. It’s hilarious to me that tying knots became such a craft that special shuttles had to be made. I want to try this with just string and see if the shuttle is necessary.
    If I had spare fancy houses I would give you one but tragically I don’t even have a single below average house to my name. This is the best I can do for you 🏠

  • @dee4174
    @dee4174 11 годин тому +1

    Thank you for this. I love your gold shuttle! Bring back knotting! ❤

  • @auntienanabun
    @auntienanabun 22 години тому +6

    Love your sense of humour! I smiled through the entire video.

  • @latriciaosorio73
    @latriciaosorio73 4 години тому

    That shuttle is so gorgeous 😍

  • @ginninadances
    @ginninadances 21 годину тому +3

    I need more access to more of this "trust me bro" source!😂

  • @lyneatsyourcookies
    @lyneatsyourcookies 19 годин тому +3

    I enjoyed this immensely, thank you for sharing your hyperfocus fuelled ramblings!

  • @Ashhorton93
    @Ashhorton93 2 дні тому +12

    Finally the deep lore has dropped!

  • @sariahmarier42
    @sariahmarier42 21 годину тому +4

    Luv your whole personality! Glad to have discovered you.

  • @nanobyte1
    @nanobyte1 День тому +11

    HOW do you have only 23 subs? you have a vibrant personality and brilliant editing style. thanks for sharing !!

    • @Dragonofgarnet
      @Dragonofgarnet 2 години тому +1

      I think the algorithm is algorithming! Bringing us to excellent content

  • @YarnAndy
    @YarnAndy 6 годин тому

    This was so much fun! Would have loved to see more examples of knots used in practice, just to get an idea of how they'd look on people.

    • @SongSpinnerUK
      @SongSpinnerUK  6 годин тому

      @@YarnAndy don't threaten me with a good time making another video on my current favourite topic! 😂

  • @kkcliffy2952
    @kkcliffy2952 8 годин тому +2

    I'm a tatter and have heard of knotting because it's an ancestor of tatting, but i haven't found any tutorials before!

  • @QueAwkwardNoises
    @QueAwkwardNoises 21 годину тому +2

    Great video, looking forward to trying this technique on some of my next garments!

  • @thoughtsofelizabeth
    @thoughtsofelizabeth 20 годин тому +3

    New subscriber!
    Want more articles from Trust Me Bro!
    Also, i love it when content creators cite other content creators.
    Finally and most importantly, i love the video. Really enjoyed it

  • @KawaiiStars
    @KawaiiStars 6 годин тому

    Love fashion history, thanks for covering this it was fun ❤

  • @emmazhang9721
    @emmazhang9721 10 годин тому +1

    This is really interesting, thank you!!

  • @O2BSoLucky
    @O2BSoLucky 21 годину тому +3

    Knotting would have kept you busy but crochet is worlds more practical and usable. There would have been an explosion of inventing new patterns which would have been very exciting the same craft can produce clothing as well as socks and doilies. It can look like tatting or like knitting. Crochet is where its at!

  • @janisjoplin7586
    @janisjoplin7586 16 годин тому +2

    How do you not have more subscribers?!? I subbed and liked, doing my part for the algo lol. You're entertaining and i love how well researched this felt. Thank you!!!

  • @AjaxAtax
    @AjaxAtax 8 годин тому +2

    So, soutache is totally still a thing, but mostly made by machine these days; some people make their own. It goes on the edge of military fancy dress uniforms and royal uniforms and is still found in couture and even some bridal items.

    • @SongSpinnerUK
      @SongSpinnerUK  7 годин тому +1

      @@AjaxAtax oh wow I didn't know that! I wonder if it's made in the same way the french book described nowadays or if it's entirely machine

  • @Geyser39
    @Geyser39 35 секунд тому

    Samuel Johnson's complaint that he can't knot reminds me of my dad trying any fiber arts...

  • @sooziebea
    @sooziebea 20 годин тому +2

    3:45 in and I have kumihimo vibes. So now I kinda want to play with this too! 🥰

  • @friedasorber1653
    @friedasorber1653 14 годин тому +3

    Nottingham or Knottingham?
    What a delightful video. I have been knotting for years. I am. A textile historian. Saw lots of diverse knotting in museums and churches. Did lo of of knotting while traveling. Did not know I was in royal company there. Do you know of the tassesls you see on 17th cent collars? Lits of knotting there. These remained fashionable in a few Dutch regional costumes, notably the island of Marken.
    I use tatting shuttles or a wooden shuttle for my work. I have an 18th cent carved ivory one, but that is way too delicate to use. I did not know the last image you showed, but have seen a few objects done that way. Your quotations are all new too me. So a big thanks. If I ever write about this you will be quoted. I'd love to be in personal contact with you.

    • @SongSpinnerUK
      @SongSpinnerUK  13 годин тому +2

      @@friedasorber1653 Wow, very jealous of your historical shuttle, amazing! How did you first learn of the craft?🙂

    • @friedasorber1653
      @friedasorber1653 11 годин тому +2

      By analyzing textiles, looking at paintings, seeing a few books showing knotting shuttles, but mostly seeing 1000's of objects, and being inspired by them to make things myself.

  • @heidibock1017
    @heidibock1017 9 годин тому +3

    I also wonder if the lady in church was ND, and knotting helped her pay more attention to the service.

  • @lilalawrence1453
    @lilalawrence1453 7 годин тому

    This is incredible!!! I really hope to see more of these videos. The research is done beautifully and this fits perfectly in my special interest. I’m also so happy you listed the sources in the description to learn more 😊. Have you considered emailing any of the researchers on the article you cited? Academics in rare crafts like this LOVE to talk about their work. It might seem intimidating but I know so many who would jump at this chance and the worst they could say is that they are busy ❤. Also, a good resource might be reaching out to the Huntington library. I’m a reader (name for the researchers who are given access to rare books) there for my work on mycology and historical dye and they have massive collections of historic books specifically in the areas of textiles and so so many librarians who absolutely adore helping people learn more!

  • @jenibern5801
    @jenibern5801 5 годин тому +1

    You're funny as hell - great video and interesting to another crafter. Just one anomaly though, it's pronounced PURcell not PurCELL because he was English not French, a tiny musician bugbear of mine...

  • @WallebyDamned
    @WallebyDamned 3 години тому

    Humans writing thirsty poems and stories about knotting, glad to know that the spirit of Wattpad has always been a thing

  • @digital_matt
    @digital_matt 17 годин тому +1

    5 minutes in and so far i've really liked your presentation style, and im very curious about how Purcell ties in

  • @Rickettsia505
    @Rickettsia505 3 години тому

    Looks similar to tatting, and macrame. ( I love Purcell)

  • @rosemarycousins5501
    @rosemarycousins5501 26 хвилин тому

    If anyone needs to try knotting straight away, because ‘why not’, you will find that a gutermann reel and perle thread make a great starting point. As to what to do with it - it makes an excellent textured couching thread. Knot up a length of dark green then couch it in a squiggly line in a circle about 1”/2.5cm diameter, put a bow on the top and mount it in a card for a Christmas wreath Xmas card.

    • @SongSpinnerUK
      @SongSpinnerUK  19 хвилин тому

      @@rosemarycousins5501 this is an excellent idea! I like using double/triple knots as a replacement for french knots in embroidery because I *hate* them with a passion 😂

  • @NathanRyan-v6s
    @NathanRyan-v6s День тому +6

    I think it would be very relaxing. I just don't know how I'd use the end product.

    • @SongSpinnerUK
      @SongSpinnerUK  14 годин тому +2

      I like to either use it as edging on clothing or in place of a like of french knots in embroidery. There were also examples of ladies using it as the drawstring of their knotting bag

    • @martagasowska6772
      @martagasowska6772 11 годин тому +1

      @@SongSpinnerUK wouldn't making knotting bags to use up your knotted pieces create an infinite thread and bag loop? ;-)

    • @SongSpinnerUK
      @SongSpinnerUK  10 годин тому +1

      @@martagasowska6772 sounds suitably Sisyphean, I like it

  • @karinbaird2499
    @karinbaird2499 9 годин тому +1

    Love this😂❤

  • @nydougtx
    @nydougtx 4 години тому

    I may have to give this a try at some point. Or at least bring it up in a lace guild meeting.

  • @happygardener28
    @happygardener28 16 годин тому +1

    Seems like a simple variant of Tatting, which can be worked with a shuttle. Needle Tatting is a whole different Rabbit Hole

    • @SongSpinnerUK
      @SongSpinnerUK  14 годин тому +1

      another rabbit hole you say? Interesting...

    • @happygardener28
      @happygardener28 11 годин тому

      @SongSpinnerUK shuttle tatting and needle tatting create similar results, but enough differences to a person who has worked both.
      The method of shuttle tatting is similar to making fishing nets; needle tatting, I've nothing I can compare it to in my experiences.

  • @notemaker3000
    @notemaker3000 3 години тому

    Yes yes - knotting shuttles are typically 4-6 inches ** reworks diagram **

  • @m.jewell9107
    @m.jewell9107 3 години тому

    The Earl of KNOTtingham, you say?? By printing your own plastic shuttle, is it flexible enough to remove the center spool for winding/filling with cord? Trying to think of how to make my own shuttle and do some plops...:)

  • @manuellubian5709
    @manuellubian5709 5 годин тому

    Wonderfully edited, wildly funny, very informative hugely, imaginative. Loaded with lots of tidbits of history etc. However the only thing that I noticed from the comfort of my home here in America is that your video came across to me being very glitchy. Don't know if it was you or if it's my wi-fi...... however the video came across on my end having a lot of stammers, jerks and restarts in the audio here and there. Just basically all throughout the whole video.
    Not sure if you experience the same thing if you played it back for yourself. Or if you have the ability to edit somehow and re-upload it. Either way I just wanted to let you know that on the technical side it's coming through with a lot of jumpy glitches in there.

  • @lemonchild82
    @lemonchild82 16 годин тому +1

    Thanks so much for making this video so high quality about. It shocking your channel hasn't blown up yet. Keep up the good work. By the way, where can one buy a knotting shuttle?

    • @SongSpinnerUK
      @SongSpinnerUK  14 годин тому

      I have linked my Etsy in the description where I have a couple for sale I designed,but I highly recommend you try it out with what you have on hand first to check if you like it 🙂

  • @yetanotherentity
    @yetanotherentity 19 годин тому +2

    I have no basis for this theory, but:
    when Europeans reached South America, they found thousands and thousands of piles of knotted cords laying about in mayan? Aztec? some ancient culture there. They had no idea what they were for, but someone recently figured out they were basically books. Knotted cords were a language. Europeans had no idea, and burned and disposed of any they found, but i suspect some made it back across the pond, and-as with most curiosities of foreign culyures- were appropriated and incorporated into Western fashion.
    Again, just my theory, but if anyone decides to take this ball and run with it, please give me credit! 😂

    • @eowalton
      @eowalton 18 годин тому +1

      It was the Peruvian native people (Either Inca or tribes that predated the Inca expansion.)

    • @yetanotherentity
      @yetanotherentity 16 годин тому +1

      @@eowalton thanks! Of course it was the one i didn't name! :D

    • @SongSpinnerUK
      @SongSpinnerUK  14 годин тому

      I've heard of those knotted cords! It's fascinating and makes a lot of sense when you think about it

    • @ChelleLlewes
      @ChelleLlewes 13 годин тому +1

      Oh, yes, I remember reading about them. They're celled quippu.

  • @incrediblectopus
    @incrediblectopus 6 годин тому

    My hands are doing that too! I have bitchy skin. Made me feel a bit better about it.

  • @Kehy_ThisNameWasAlreadyTaken
    @Kehy_ThisNameWasAlreadyTaken 12 годин тому +2

    came from the furries, stayed for obscure textile crafting

  • @ricebeansrockroll882
    @ricebeansrockroll882 10 годин тому +1

    Queen Kristina of Sweden was described by Pope Alexander VII as "a queen without a realm, a Christian without faith, and a woman without shame."
    That also feels twitter-bio worthy.

  • @melenatorr
    @melenatorr 20 годин тому +2

    I'll not hear a word against Samuel Johnson: he liked cats, and his pet Hodge is one of the most famous felines in British literature:
    "Nor would it be just, under this head, to omit the fondness which he showed for animals which he had taken under his protection. I never shall forget the indulgence with which he treated Hodge, his cat: for whom he himself used to go out and buy oysters, lest the servants having that trouble should take a dislike to the poor creature. I am, unluckily, one of those who have an antipathy to a cat, so that I am uneasy when in the room with one; and I own, I frequently suffered a good deal from the presence of this same Hodge. I recollect him one day scrambling up Dr. Johnson's breast, apparently with much satisfaction, while my friend smiling and half-whistling, rubbed down his back, and pulled him by the tail; and when I observed he was a fine cat, saying, "Why yes, Sir, but I have had cats whom I liked better than this;" and then as if perceiving Hodge to be out of countenance, adding, "but he is a very fine cat, a very fine cat indeed.""
    And this more modern poem about Johnson and Hodge: www.catquotes.com/hodgethecat.htm

    • @SongSpinnerUK
      @SongSpinnerUK  14 годин тому +1

      I had no idea he was a cat dad! That's so cute ❤️

  • @amazinggrace5692
    @amazinggrace5692 9 годин тому +1

    Did this fiber art make it across the pond?

  • @bookmouse2719
    @bookmouse2719 13 годин тому

    Do you think this would've been too difficult for Lady Bertram? (Mansfield Park).

  • @PossiblyJohn
    @PossiblyJohn 5 годин тому

    Some say they might have been a little knotty

  • @dogguy8603
    @dogguy8603 13 годин тому +2

    Me a furry "im sorry what is a royal hobby?!"

  • @whoareyoulookingfor
    @whoareyoulookingfor 5 годин тому

    i tried looking for a clearer scan of the music sheet to decode or find an unaltered version of the scribbled passage and i found a very good quality scan of a different edition, but couldn't find that song in it! 😭 tragedy, i'm sorry, i tried

    • @SongSpinnerUK
      @SongSpinnerUK  4 години тому

      @@whoareyoulookingfor I appreciate and respect your need for knowledge and/or smut. ❤️😂

  • @Sujowi
    @Sujowi 2 години тому

    You are interesting and deserve a better camera and autocue set up when talking to camera. You’re looking off to the side too much and not aiming the examples very accurately. A tweak of your system is all that’s needed as your demonstration was right on point.

  • @jojo1234a
    @jojo1234a Годину тому

    What is the song from the very beginning called please?

    • @SongSpinnerUK
      @SongSpinnerUK  Годину тому

      @@jojo1234a it's a composition by Benjamin Britten based on Henry Purcell's Abdelazer - Rondeau :)

  • @mariawhite7337
    @mariawhite7337 5 годин тому

    I am here to make an inappropriate joke: None but a cuckhold a CUCKHOLD! None but a cuckhold bullied by his wife for coming!
    This is a song in the same book apparently.

    • @SongSpinnerUK
      @SongSpinnerUK  5 годин тому

      @@mariawhite7337 and they say that modern pop songs have inappropriate lyrics! Absolute filth 😂

  • @JelMain
    @JelMain 16 годин тому +1

    The 11th Commandment

  • @playinglifeoneasy9226
    @playinglifeoneasy9226 4 години тому

    Yarn goblin 😂

  • @louimmature
    @louimmature 17 годин тому

    knotting 🫀

  • @ankerubinetto2359
    @ankerubinetto2359 13 годин тому

    Plopp 😂

  • @khymesound
    @khymesound 15 годин тому +2

    inb4 a furry infestation in the comments