@@MJforlife-777 i think Johnny would of been wise enough to not get involved in Daltons business, thats the mistake Andy Hunter made with Johnny and he come up short.
Angel Hudson was every inch as hard as Jack Dalton. He had as much manpower and furthermore, he'd actually get his hands dirty himself. For instance when he stood trial for a homicide he'd personally committed and tried to call his then wife as a false alibi.
He's it's implied they are members of/ affiliated with "The Firm" basically a conglomerate of villains, the ones who shot Den and the ones who Nick Cotton was told would come after him if he kept mugging grannies and robbing houses
@@Fordicles 2021 is better than grant's 2016 period to Ben's return in 2019. Sept2016-April2019 EE was at its absolute worst and SHITTEST. Max Bowden's Ben improved it massively.
Yeah, it says the writers can manipulate people like you easily into believing Grant is a lot more dangerous than he actually is. They've been doing it with Phil for years painting him like he's Al Capone yet he's never murdered anyone on his life.
Jack Dalton loved him, you'd rather talk to him than Angel, Angel was an unreasonable man, Jack would be reasonable if you were truthful and not trying to steal from him
I still like it, but I used to like a lot more back then. Back then I literally could not wait until the next episode, these days I can sit though an episode and not fully pay attention.
I was in prison with a real gangster I was just small time he was the nisest guy u would never think he lived that life quit kept his head down great guy
I always wondered what the link was between Andy and Johnny. It's obvious that Andy worked for Jack Dalton, but when Johnny came into the scene, it's as if they were past associates and that Andy somewhat worked below Johnny somehow. Jack and Johnny were both bosses of their own organisations, so not sure how Andy linked in with Johnny if he was already associated with Jack. Can someone explain?
@epicmafia2046 Because he's right, it was implied. For Dennis to say Jack's guys thought Jack fancied him then there was clearly a feeling in his cycle that he was.
Hywel Bennett seems so different here to his character in Shelley. I'd previously put that down to premature ageing because of Bennett's alcoholism but no...he was just a versatile as fuck actor.
Lmao Jack Dalton was terrified of Grant coming after him. That’s his true character. Great leader, great gangster, but he understands his limitations. Grant was an unstoppable force in those days, and Jack knew better than to get on the wrong side of him
😂😂😂😂 I'm sure he was joking. He could have Grant killed easily. It'd b no problem for him. Grant was scared of Jason Cox in early 90s n Dalton had much more clout than Cox did. Jack let this go with Phil coz the mitchell brothers always had alot of respect. Nothin to do with bein scared of Grant
He defo wasn’t scared of Grant lol Jack had immense underworld influence and Grant is just an eastend thug he’d have him killed off with ease if Grant tried anything to threaten him
Grant was a Parachute Regiment soldier, the perpetrators of Bloody Sunday and the Ballymurphy massacre, they are thugs for sure, thugs trained to kill, Dalton knows if he killed Phil he'd be ambushed somewhere at night by gunfire
I think Eastenders would be very entertaining if there was a jack dalton type of character in Eastenders now . Gavin has been sent to kill Phil by his boss 10 years ago which was the reason for gavin and Kathy faking their deaths . so the character would come to the square to do the job himself . And he would be out for revenge at gavin for failing to do the job and running away with Kathy . Gavin thinking it was safe to return doesn't realise that the boss is back in the square and that he is being hunted down . Kathy realises that the boss is in the square and tries to warn Phil that he is a wanted man
Imran Ali Its so obvious that you never even met a top gang boss in real life. You probably think some kid calling people 'blood' is a main face lmfao. Grow up.
Jordan Jones top gang boss...lolzzzz...ive met a couple..and this guys doing all the wrong things..you don't talk like this, let your guard down like this unless it's your close relative..dirty den..he was more realistic..that derek branning he was too..
Imran Ali Derek Branning Realistic? ha ha ha now you are defintely taking the piss lol. 'You don't talk like this' Why did you wanted him to speak like those plastic gangsters from kidulthood? The only reason he sort of let his guard down was because he knew the likes of Phil woudnt dare fuck with him and if he did, Dalton's friends would of killed his entire family because that is how these people work.
“Well it’s hardly likely to be taking my dog for a walk, Phil, is it?” 😂🤣🤣🤣🤣 5:30
Dalton was the best gangster in eastenders. Great acting from hywel Bennett
Grant would have been a huge asset in a war against Jack Dalton, he was a soldier and an amazing fighter to boot.
Dalton was probably the most evil and ruthless gangster ever in EastEnders. Made Johnny Allen look small time.
Chris Ro
@die hard Johnny was simalar in coldness had a good humour too
@@MJforlife-777 i think Johnny would of been wise enough to not get involved in Daltons business, thats the mistake Andy Hunter made with Johnny and he come up short.
Angel Hudson was every inch as hard as Jack Dalton. He had as much manpower and furthermore, he'd actually get his hands dirty himself. For instance when he stood trial for a homicide he'd personally committed and tried to call his then wife as a false alibi.
He did but Phil was nervous taking Jack on but was Jack scared of Grant? He rolled over
LOVE that Dalton and all the mob were scared of/wary of Grant! Love Grant! Him vs Johnny was epic!
"Get us a cup of tea, would you, Errol?"
That killed me 😂🤣
Wish we’d seen Dalton interact with Johnny, wonder if they knew of each other/interacted with each other off-screen?
He's it's implied they are members of/ affiliated with "The Firm" basically a conglomerate of villains, the ones who shot Den and the ones who Nick Cotton was told would come after him if he kept mugging grannies and robbing houses
Jack - Give me one good reason why I shouldn’t shoot you where you stand.
Phil - Cos it ain’t a real gun.
What a brilliant line that is.
Back in the good old days.
RIP Hywel Bennett.
His character Peter baxter was a good villain in the bill to
was the guy with Phil in the first part is he the gangster called Errol in Snatch
+Tony Jones Yeah thats him lol oink oink!
+wk2k11 thought so couldn't be positive thank u
wk2k11 joker oink oink lol
That sounds like hostility doesn't it tony?
yes and we dont like hostilty do we john no we dont errol loool
Back when eastenders was awesome. Nowadays it is boring as hell
DJ Donnelly it is missing a gangster character or antagonist for the show. Vincent was meant to be the that but, they dwindled him down a bit.
@@thomasfallows9170 Phil Mitchell vs Keanu Taylor was a gangster thing. The 35th Anniversary Episode was a good storyline.
@@thomasfallows9170 Also, Ben Mitchell in his prime (Max Bowden) was a good antagonist.
And that was 4 years ago, in 2021, it's even worse now
@@Fordicles 2021 is better than grant's 2016 period to Ben's return in 2019. Sept2016-April2019 EE was at its absolute worst and SHITTEST.
Max Bowden's Ben improved it massively.
I miss Dennis
5:31 I can imagine Phil taking Jack’s groomed toy poodle for a walk 🤣🤦🏼♀️
Is it just me or does Jack Dalton look a little bit like Josef Fritzl?
Hit the nail on the head
I coudnt put my finger on who he reminded me of , I thinks its the look of his skin texture and eyes so fritzel like
Lol hes got tat confused look as though someones explaining to him theres a difference between daughter and grandaughter
He molested dennis xD
LMAOOO he does
Ffs 😂😂
Andy hunter was all mouth
Think I’ve gone soft? You’d love it wouldn’t you. LOL. Imagine if Dalton actually did need his dog walking... Phil?
I can imagine Andy making Phil do something than that. Jack would hurt you, Andy would hurt your pride
Jack Dalton or Johnny Allen. I'd say Jack was a typical gang/mafia boss type. Johnny was more rational.
Mr Opinionated Johnny Allen had his own empire. Vs the firm
Johnny got his hands dirty occasionally, while Dalton used henchmen
Dalton was brilliant... really really dangerous. Not much get by him
For Jack to be weary of Grant says alot as he is saying Grant could take out all his hencemen
Grant has killed in combat
@@geedee1264 okay so Jack knew that
Yeah, it says the writers can manipulate people like you easily into believing Grant is a lot more dangerous than he actually is. They've been doing it with Phil for years painting him like he's Al Capone yet he's never murdered anyone on his life.
@1977Suspiria Well not intentionally.......
Jack Dalton loved him, you'd rather talk to him than Angel, Angel was an unreasonable man, Jack would be reasonable if you were truthful and not trying to steal from him
“He says I owe him…. which I take issue with”
RIP Hywyl Bennett.
eastenders now is VERY boring compared to these days
And now is more boring since the last time you wrote this comment lol.
@@alfiemoon2516 jeez that's flown quickly hahahaha
Andy Beckwith 'Erroll' from Snatch
I still like it, but I used to like a lot more back then. Back then I literally could not wait until the next episode, these days I can sit though an episode and not fully pay attention.
1:57 That Part Scared Me😂
Was that guy one of bricktops thugs from snatch?
Yes mate
Strangely enough, Jack Dalton was also the name of MacGyver's reliable pilot (the scheming treasure hunter.)
i dont think phil was afraid of anyone
Where is part 2 !!!!! Furious
Dennis II wasn’t scared of Dalton
Anyone here think that Phil was probably a gangster or involved in that world before he became an actor ?
Hahaha
He did know people,they did a bio on London Gangsters,where they showed him and;a couple of other EE actors talking to some known Gangsters.
Who steve mcfadden ? Sure there was something in the news years ago about him having his missis locked up for slapping him about lol
Philip Carole Tomlimson Lol! seriously.
Lol wtf
Milk has got a, lot a bottle!😊
Our man Dalton is in the business of giving out root fillings. ☺
Nostalgia! lol i used to love eastenders...
Kate was beautiful.
The halcyon days of Eastenders. Right here!!
I don't think you've been LISTENING
Feed him to the pigs would you Errol
I was in prison with a real gangster I was just small time he was the nisest guy u would never think he lived that life quit kept his head down great guy
Was it Reggie kray ?
He was a r@pist
I always wondered what the link was between Andy and Johnny.
It's obvious that Andy worked for Jack Dalton, but when Johnny came into the scene, it's as if they were past associates and that Andy somewhat worked below Johnny somehow.
Jack and Johnny were both bosses of their own organisations, so not sure how Andy linked in with Johnny if he was already associated with Jack.
Can someone explain?
I never knew Dennis's mate in the cafe was in Eastenders as well as Neil in Coronation Street!
Phil vs Jeremy beadle
'No sugar, i'm sweet enough' :L
I often wondered if Jack was homosexual.
Lmao where on earth did you get that idea from? Ain't no chance he is
😂😂 why would that even cross your mind
@epicmafia2046 Because he's right, it was implied. For Dennis to say Jack's guys thought Jack fancied him then there was clearly a feeling in his cycle that he was.
Good days!
I'm surprised that random thug managed to get a hit on Dennis who was known for his fighting skills. Even though he had a weapon but still.
Whys that surprising, he had a weapon, in real life 9 times out of 10 that's what would happen
@@diehard21000 Not when you're going up against a skilled street fighter who trains boxing for a hobby.
@@H.K.5 doesn't mean you can't get stabbed or killed, it's not 100 percent, I agree a boxer most times will come out on top though
did jack have george beaten up
He should have said you have to deal with grant
Hywel Bennett seems so different here to his character in Shelley. I'd previously put that down to premature ageing because of Bennett's alcoholism but no...he was just a versatile as fuck actor.
0:01 Where did that guy go I remember him being a pretty scary guy.
Erroll from Snatch
Silly dennis 😂
The golden times
MORE FIRE CREW OI !!!!!
rated 18. better back in the days, eastenders was.
Phil would knock Jack on ground
A crisis n EEC now days is when Honey had lost her hat.
Lmao Jack Dalton was terrified of Grant coming after him. That’s his true character. Great leader, great gangster, but he understands his limitations. Grant was an unstoppable force in those days, and Jack knew better than to get on the wrong side of him
😂😂😂😂 I'm sure he was joking. He could have Grant killed easily. It'd b no problem for him.
Grant was scared of Jason Cox in early 90s n Dalton had much more clout than Cox did.
Jack let this go with Phil coz the mitchell brothers always had alot of respect. Nothin to do with bein scared of Grant
He defo wasn’t scared of Grant lol Jack had immense underworld influence and Grant is just an eastend thug he’d have him killed off with ease if Grant tried anything to threaten him
Ffs, get real. 😂😂
@@epicmafia2046Maybe not in the grand scheme of things but I don't suppose he'd want Grant jumping him in the street
Grant was a Parachute Regiment soldier, the perpetrators of Bloody Sunday and the Ballymurphy massacre, they are thugs for sure, thugs trained to kill, Dalton knows if he killed Phil he'd be ambushed somewhere at night by gunfire
I think Eastenders would be very entertaining if there was a jack dalton type of character in Eastenders now .
Gavin has been sent to kill Phil by his boss 10 years ago which was the reason for gavin and Kathy faking their deaths . so the character would come to the square to do the job himself .
And he would be out for revenge at gavin for failing to do the job and running away with Kathy .
Gavin thinking it was safe to return doesn't realise that the boss is back in the square and that he is being hunted down .
Kathy realises that the boss is in the square and tries to warn Phil that he is a wanted man
Why did he need aspirin
Miss Hywel Bennett I really do.
hahahaha walkies
The song at 12:26?
What is the song?!
Why did Shelley become a gangster🤦♂
1:57 - NOW!!!!!
I used to love philc
@ardbastard1 yeah true! bit gutted there
Hello again 240p. 😂😂
Mitchell
Pat :')
Its plastic, got it from my littlen
1:24 - 6:35
where drunken actors go to die
too childish..old dude aint real..a real g wouldnt talk so much to phil..he's behaving more like a school teacher..
Thats cause he is more sophisticated than the wannabe gangsters who talk slang all the time.
Mephiles18000 no it's cos he doesn't know how to act like a gangster..
Imran Ali Its so obvious that you never even met a top gang boss in real life.
You probably think some kid calling people 'blood' is a main face lmfao.
Grow up.
Jordan Jones top gang boss...lolzzzz...ive met a couple..and this guys doing all the wrong things..you don't talk like this, let your guard down like this unless it's your close relative..dirty den..he was more realistic..that derek branning he was too..
Imran Ali Derek Branning Realistic? ha ha ha now you are defintely taking the piss lol.
'You don't talk like this' Why did you wanted him to speak like those plastic gangsters from kidulthood?
The only reason he sort of let his guard down was because he knew the likes of Phil woudnt dare fuck with him and if he did, Dalton's friends would of killed his entire family because that is how these people work.