Great review. I did have a 2006 FJR, then changed to a K1600GT. Regretted it big time. I'm now back on an FJR, being a 2017 model, I love the 6 gear, LED cornering lights, slipper clutch and electronic suspection. Such a fabulous Sport Tourer. Take care.
This is a superb video, literally one of the very best I've ever seen for any motorcycle. Thanks very much for you time and efforts, this is just what anyone considering this bike needs to hear. Thanks a bunch. Ride safe Cheers Tony
I have the same bike / same color and love it. Just completed a 1000 mile tour of the Colorado Rockies and all I can say is that the experience was sublime. Apart from having superb mechanics, the bike is also a work of art, a real testament to great design. Thanks for all your instructive videos, they really come in useful. Perhaps you would consider a how-to on changing the handlebar position. This procedure has not been adequately addressed on the FJR forums and accordingly leads to a lot of confusion, even the manual suggests having the dealer do it. I went ahead and changed mine to a different setting and found the entire process to be quick and simple. I also discovered to my dismay that the dealer had installed the left and right bars at different settings! I agree with other negative comments about the stock seat. I changed mine to a heated Corbin with the companion Smuggler trunk all of which makes for a huge improvement in rider comfort. Another stock weakness was the light output from the rear brake light. The brake light only operates from one of the twin light housings rather than from each of them, consequently I installed a Custom Dynamics Knight Riderz sequential light bar to my license plate frame (which I am informed can be seen from the space station with the naked eye) I have this light bar on all of my other rides and it truly is a great investment in safety... www.amazon.com/Custom-Dynamics-Knight-Riderz-Light/dp/B002TR6WA4/ref=sr_1_1?s=automotive&ie=UTF8&qid=1410981476&sr=1-1
There are these wings that you can add to the top of the windshield. It is only about half the width of the windshield, but it does magic. It makes your ride much more quiet.
I like your videos. Very helpful when doing maintenance. I have a 2019 ES and I absolutely love this bike. I traded my 2008 BMW in for the Yamaha and was the best decision I made.
So you know, the FJR is not a bored out, tuned for torque R1, nor is it related to water craft engine. That engine in 2001 was built specifically for the new FJR 1300 bike. It's not even related to the old FJ1200 engine. Quoted from the project leader Hiroshi Komatsubara "To enjoy power from low to high engine rpm we needed a high capacity 4 cylinder engine. With the experience we gained during development of the R1 power-plant, we were able to design a 1300 cc engine which delivers high power output of 145 HP at only 8000 rpm and a breathtaking torque of 125,5 NM at 6000 rpm." While it's not bored out, the FZ1 (both gen 1 and 2) are 'tuned for torque' R1s. (Gen 1 FZ1 uses a 98-99 modified R1 engine. Gen 2 FZ1 uses a 04-06 modified R1 engine.) Great bike, though. My father owns an 09 that he's selling and getting the 14 ES, just like you have, this spring. I look forward to riding it a bit, when he lets me.
Kind sir I beg to differ with the exhaust conversation. Coffman exhaust is $400 and the bike sounds absolutely perfect deep and throaty. It's a slip on dual exhaust and bruh.......baffles out......the power is there, with or without baffles. You definitely feel the power
I just wanted to tell you how much I appreciate and enjoy your videos. I lost my job 15 months ago following my second massive heart attack but I hope to be back in action soon. I have the FJR as my number 1 choice when I am back on me feet. Is there anyway you could get a hold of a BMW r1200rt and a Triumph Trophy SE and give them a whirl and an honest comparison with your FJR? Thanks!
There is a huge maintenance advantage on this bike, the recommended valve adjustment is every 24,000 miles. That's money and time in that owners pocket. This will be my next bike.
Thanks for the review. Looking into getting a FJR and like hearing owner opinions. FYI, this engine is not the same as the SHO/FZR supercharged 1800cc engines. It is nearly the same as the OLD MR-1 watercraft engine. They are very, very different.
You mentioned the lights and wished they had done the rear lights as LED. I noticed a small red reflector on back below the license plate... There is an after market LED strobe light you can put there (same size) and tie it to your brakes. It is a great accessory!!
I really enjoyed watching this review, even though it is on an earlier model FJR. The 2016 model has 6 gears instead of five, and I like that feature. Another guy from England calls himself Biker Paul, actually got a BMW K1600 GTL and then decided that he is happier with the FJR, and went to it. He likes the FJR more than it, and takes video of some really long cruises on his bike. I ve sat on one in the showroom, and I liked the riding stance a lot better than the Hayabusa. From the looks of things , the FJR will be my choice too. I am interested in long distance riding and I think it is a great choice for that.
I appreciate the time you took to make this video, I'm in the process of picking between Honda, Kawasaki and Yamaha sport touring, used not new. We'll see!!
I happen to come upon your Video looking for info on the FJR 1300. I suddenly realized you are in Pasco County Florida, I used to live in Hudson. Great review !!. When I was there in rode a 1996 BMW R1100R, North US19 in Citrus county is Great ridin'... Enjoy.
This review is the best review of any kind of product I have ever seen. It's almost as if you're taking the bike for a spin. Things that are relevant to the bike are explained so well without wasting the viewers time. Very very nice work!!!
I have now seen a lot of your videos. I love them! Especially they helped in the wintertime here in Denmark, but now the MC season has started, but we still get a little snow :( You have my dream bike, but I'm on my first bike, a Suzuki SV1000s and got that and the license last year after thinking over it for 18 years. But i hope to buy a bike like yours, but the tax here in Denmark is sooo high, so it cost 48.000 USD as standard. Keep the videos coming.
I like your video. I currently own a 2010 gen2 Vmax which I love but thinking of making the jump to the fjr1300 after test riding one. I like all the creature comforts it has. Actually the paint is identical to the paint on my vmax, Yamaha calls it candy red and I dig it too. The fjr I test rode had a set of GYTR slip on pipes and I thought they sounded incredible without being loud in any way. I'll hold out until spring and try to get a good deal on a leftover 2014. Thanks, Dan
I have a 2014 fjr es just received my yamaha frame sliders opened the box and found out I have to cut my plastic to install them wish they would have told me that . Not happy with that.
Great Review! I´ve mounted the Beowulf slipons on my FJR. They are quite cheap and have a lifetime warranty. I love how the bike sounds with them. Yamaha FJR1300 with Beowulf Exhaust "(BAFFLES OUT)"
TwoWheelObsession It was after I saw that videolink that I decided to go for the Beowulfs. I don´t regret it. It comes with the street legal baffles, and they are very easy to remove.
Been thinking about selling my Road King for something more sporty with more giddy up, but god I just cannot decide what to get. The FJR1300 is an obvious contender. The Concours 14 is a huge one too. I'm actually kinda thinking about a Hayabusa too but the chain drive (and less creature comforts in general) really turns me off, I enjoy not having to mess with anything lol. Regular gas is an absolutely HUGE selling point though! I can tell you that with a bike like this, I'm going to be going through a lot of it haha. I used to own a gen 2 vmax, and it is probably the bike with the best fit and finish I've ever ridden, I'm sure that carries over to their sport touring bikes too. God, I loved that bike lol. The 50 mile range just sucked the fun right out of it, though. Anyway, enough rambling lol. I subbed for sure. Great video. This is one of the best reviews I've ever seen and might have sold me an FJR. I haven't watched your Concours video yet though lol.
@@SusanWillan I ended up getting a ST1300 since I found a good deal and it was one of the best bikes I ever had. Unfortunately Honda discontinued it but if they were still making them I'd have me a new one for sure. I've still got the FJR on my radar though for sure, I'd recommend any sport touring bike to anyone. I think they're the best kind of bike personally
Hi There, thanks for the review. We are looking to upgrade from our ZX14 (ZZR1400 over there) to get a bit more comfort for longer trips. We rode the GTR1400 (Concours over there) yesterday, and have a ride scheduled for the FJR tomorrow. Just wondering if you can comment on the pressure on your wrists. That's the main thing I am trying to improve from the ZX14, and I noticed that the GTR still had a fairly pronounced lean forward. Do you notice much wrist pressure on the FJR? BTW, we are in Australia...should have mentioned that! The biggest drawback for the FJR is the black only color option, so I might have to wait and see what color appears for Australia in 2015...
Solid review comparing the gen2 to the gen3. One of the best I’ve seen so far. My pockets aren’t deep enough for a gen3 right now but I just put a deposit on a low miles gen2. Which I actually think I prefer style wise. Yup! I’ve also left my wallet one or twice. LOL! And really appreciate the seat height to inseam aspect since I’m only a 29” inseam. But almost every bike I’ve owned over the last 30 years had me on my toes like a ballerina but at least I get an idea what to expect from the fjr. Cheers!
Question..what would you suggest,, I have a chance to buy a 2017 fjr1300 es but it is white,,,now as far as I know they didn’t make white,, it isn’t the police white..I did a vin check and it says no accidents or salvage,, has a clean title,,the seller said the previous owner had it painted,,I’m afraid there was damage just never reported so of course it would not come up on the report..should I pull the trigger or walk away,, your honest opinion please
Really nice review. I currently have a 2007 Star Roadliner with the deluxe hardbags and Reckless fairing. I am seriously thinking about trading it in on a FJR 1300ES.
Great review thanks.. I currently own a 07 gen 2, had her for two years and been all over Europe. Fantastic bike, I have been tempted to upgrade to the gen 3 but since mine is still in great condition and paid for, I'm not sure it's really worth it.
Great video as usual. You should be able to reset mpg via the rubber reset button to the left of the tach. I don't believe it resets on it's own. It took me a bit to figure that out. Have you experienced any clicking noises on initial throttle input or any popping from the floating rotors?
Ah that makes sense. Thanks for the clarification. This is my first FJR so I have been finding your how to videos very useful. Riding tonight I didn't notice any noise on initial throttle input. Rotors seem to get better with miles, have about 1100 on mine since 8/1.
Has anyone test driven the FJR and then test driven the Honda ST 1300? I have just test driven a very clean low mileage original owner ST 1300 on an 85° day. Within 15 minutes I was roasting from engine heat.. I have heard for years that the FJR was too hot in hot weather to ride. Has anyone written the FJR and then written an ST 1300? Which one is hotter
Twowheeledobsession, Maybe their admiring that bike ? Green would be a nice choice in color. Had a small car in red, same color as yours and had every cop in country pulling me over to see what basketball star that comes out to fish our waters and would ask me to step out of vehicle to talk only. So, your color has a recall in my mind to not get that color. Although, it is a pretty color and a lot of people like them, but has a recall in my memory of that little Ford Festiva...
Not sure if you still have this bike or if you've sold it by now but did this model have heated grips? I think you may have mentioned it. Love the color. I like my bikes visible. As far as the windscreen I would have recommended to you to buy an MRA clamp-on wind deflector. They're angle adjustable and always do the job right. Linked braking I had on my 2006 Honda VFR800 Interceptor. Lots of people hated that but I absolutely loved it. Now it seems all the sport tourers use them.
I agree about the stock seat being uncomfortable after a 100 miles or so. We got the Yamaha comfort seat thrown in as part of the deal. We had our Pan European's seat redesigned for the same reason. I think that bikes nowadays whilst being much better than the old bikes (1970s and 1980s) come with ridiculously uncomfortable seats. You shouldn't have to spend more money on something so basic as a seat after spending best part of £14,000 on the bike! I guess I'll just have to see how the new bar ends alter the bike's vibration range. Re the colour of red mixed with a little silver? I personally think that it adds to the bike's beauty. It sets off the red and black nicely. We have a black tank cover rather than a silver one for the same reason. Would you fit a topbox to yours? Lynn won't ride with me (or will if absolutely necessary) without the topbox fitted as apart from the security of having it behind her, she enjoys the comfortable back rest to lean on. Re the riding position. When I first rode the FJR after owning the Pan European, I found that my hips ached a little because of the higher foot position on the pegs. The Pan has a lower ground clearance and therefore the foot pegs are lower. I still get my hip especially my left one aching at times but I think this isn't helped by my lack of physical fitness and our rather damp and cold climate. You spoke about the mirrors, well I agree that they're amongst the best out there. The Pan European's mirrors were superb too but I think the FJR's mirrors being higher up beat these. You mentioned about the 'blind spot' and how you don't need to look as far over your shoulders? Well since I fitted my Riderscan (www.huntercreate.com/ ) to the screen I have never looked back! Pun intended of course! I fitted mine with industrial strength velcro and yes it looks slightly odd, but it makes motorway riding (especially last year when on the German autobahns) much much safer. I can passively see everything that's around me at all times whilst keeping my eyes firmly ahead. Take a look at the website. I too have got the FJR taller screen. The only gripe I have with the FJR's weather protection versus the Pan European's weather protection, is that the Pan offers a much better coverage. Because we live in a colder climate than you Bryan, this is an issue. I found that my upper arms are exposed to the wind whereas on the Pan there was no problem there. Obviously if you sit on the Pan you can clearly see why this is. It's much wider than the FJR. Would I go back to the Pan? No. I still have affection for the bike (we've owned two ST1300s) and unless Honda pull their finger out and bring out another Pan or equivalent bike, I'm sticking with Yamaha. Yamaha have updated the FJR whereas Honda's Pan has remained the same since its launch in 2002. Well in closing Bryan, great review presented so well as usual. I too love to watch ride videos especially in parts of the World I will probably never be lucky enough to ride. Thank you for the effort you put into the videos. Aren't we bikers so lucky!!! Ride safe. Paul.
FJR Biker Paul Thanks for the reply man! I agree, the seats could so easily be more comfy, obviously many other bikes get it right from the factory, there's no excuse. I may get a top case and if I do it will have a backrest for sure.
m . . so at 44 seconds any rethought as of December 2015 seems many could spend time dialing in the manual suspension as needed on non es and call it good ????????
Hey Man, i like the way you make your videos. My ride is a generation 2 and i still love it. But if i see your video, it itches to upgrade. GRTZ from Belgium from Filip
I have a 09 Honda st1300 and love it, but do notice a vibration at higher speeds from the engine and thinking like you mentioned fuel/ and tuning? I had an 06 and never noticed it before. I did enjoy watching this and wishing I was out riding but today is about 116 outside ya Phoenix sucks this time of yr. I did change the exhaust to Two Brothers and love the sound and no I bought them used on Ebay you will not see me spending 1000 bucks. Thanks for sharing.
I don't really agree on the exhaust part, i've got second gen FJR a year ago. Of course it came used, and the pretty sad part - drilled pipes. I wanted to get something better look and sound wise, so the choice fell on the pair of British Beowulfs. The price was under 400 bucks for a pair of brand new ones. They look almost the same as stock ( of course, better, since they are new ) they also sound much lower in a standard "legal" state. There's also a removable mufflers option, if you love or need (safety wise) more noise. The only bad thing i noticed is that the glued logo of manufacturer will come off pretty soon if you polish them too much. Love the bike tho, inline four works a bit strange at first, if you didn't encounter it before. The most shocking thing was a fuel economy. Since we don't have 87 in EU, i use 95 and get 45 to 50 mph on average. Of course im quite a calm rider, but that's still very strange for a 150 bhp 1300cc almost 10 year old machine. Looking forward to get one of the 2014 models. The biggest complaint i have is an absence of 6th gear. For a touring bike, that's a very big shame.
Enjoyed this video. Have watched it several times. My next bike will be an FJR1300. I like the red and silver mix tree. I have not seen that colour mix here in New Zealad.
+nzbeeker1 we've got our eye on one here in South Africa, 2nd hand but we'll be 2nd owners, elder guy had it so its well looked after, he's advertising it as showroom condition, 2008 model with 52000km on the clock, so a real jewel!! top half cherry red bottom half silver [factory colors], wanted to post the pic here for you but youtube doesn't want to let me
I am in the process of deciding on an FJR. I found a 2015 A model for a great price but I’m unsure if I should hold out for an ES. I’ll be switching between 1 and 2 rider pretty often but the A model does have a “hard” and “soft” switch for when riding 2-up. Do I really need all of those different settings for suspension or will the hard and soft switch work just fine?
What did you end up going with? I'm eyeballing a 2006 and a 2014, mostly for the cruise control. I ride 6-8 hours at least every few months. Currently on a Harley ultra
So you roll 270+ miles before you need to refuel. . . Not bad!! I was thinking about upgrading sometime in the near future and wasn't absolutely sure to what. Been hung up on Hondas since I own one and hadn't considered another make until recently. This model just may sell me, mostly because of the sportiness and tremendous space. But I have the inseam issue also. So unless I can drop it an inch I won't be comfortable and will likely ditch the idea altogether. I guess I could bring another pair of shoes besides bike boots, I don't know. But it is beautiful machine!!
hifi noob 2018 I would say no need to worry. I am 5'9 and ride a Honda Crossrunner. It's a tall bike and I could lower the seat height - but I don't. I enjoy the good view instead. Perhaps you already have a FJR now? 👍🇩🇰
Bryan, excellent video, and beautiful bike! I finally got my Class M last year, and have been riding 750s. Not as wobbly as when I started out, but definitely not a "pro-tourer," either. What is your opinion on someone like me going for a sport-tourer, like the FJR? Is 1300cc something a greenhorn could handle, or am I better off staying around the range I'm already used to? I'm also concerned about operating costs, so when you say the tires don't last as long, that does give me pause. However, I only ride from May-September, as I'm in one of the northern states. Again, great video; thumbs-up and subbed!
Watched up to your tyre remarks. Great review. I noticed that you don't have your heavier bar ends on? I've ordered a pair for our FJR as I do suffer from numbness in my hands when riding at motorway speeds (70mph) for long periods. I've got Bridgestone 023-R's on the bike and they've started to square off after around 4500 miles. We do have twisties around here but to get there there is quite a bit of motorway riding to be done first. I've got a tank cover on ours and a topbox. Yamaha amazingly don't recommend you carry a topbox and panniers at the same time! What?????? This is a touring bike. Needless to say that I have ignored that. There are riders who have many 1000s of miles two up and fully loaded that have had no problems at all. It's bed time now so I'll watch the rest of the review tomorrow. Goodnight.
Great review! I've owned many bikes my last two being RC51 & ZX11. It's time to get the wife involved, how is it for 2 up riding? I'll be commuting and light to med touring. I've checked out multiple HD's & Indians...just not my thing. Also looked at the new K1600B & really liked it.....but $26000 is a tough pill to swallow. Thx again for the review & input.
Thanks for the great review. Any recommendations for GPS unit installation? I'm planning to switch to FJR1300es from my RSV4R (getting old.. haha) for more touring capacity and a GPS is a must for me.
What's your opinion on top tier fuel vs others. Ie. shell. Bp. Exxon. Compared to SAMs. On My civic si. Honda recommends top tier. Which in ohio. Is the above mentioned.
kelly j That makes no sense, there is no quality issue with a brand, and i have never heard of such a recommendation. Are you confusing the need for certain octane ratings?
How is the acceleration on this bike? For instance, passing a car on a two lane rd... how fast you think this bike could do it? I want something that's still got some acceleration and torque of a sport bike but with the upright seating and comfort of this bike. I don't really care about crazy speed... I probably won't be traveling over 70 very much at all. I just want good, fast acceleration and handling. Thanks!
My 2015 es is in the mail! I'm switching to it from a gsx-r 600. Have you had the opportunity to engage the abs or check the hard braking performance? Also, how's the wet weather performance? Thanks a lot for the great video!
Max Knots Sorry I had the inner bags on my mind when I read your questions. The HARD cases are standard everywhere. The inner SOFT cases are standard everywhere but Canada.
Stephen Karpathakis if you dont do track riding i would just get an FJR... i am not an salty rider by any means.... i have only been riding for 3-4 years in montana so like 8 mos times 4 is like 2.5 years... my 08 fjr is my 4th bike... starting from bikes i had after a 2 day class... 79 kawi 650 (for 3 months til it broke), 82 zuki gs1100, then a 92 kawi 750 bobber... now i have an FJR.... all of those bikes, i was wishing they could be more "all round" bikes... 79 kawi - i was thinking, wow this is top heavy, not reliable, revs really high on highway, but looks cool 82 gs1100, crazy fast in a straight line, fine on the highway but super hot in city, but, unreliable and just afraid of the maintenance to be honest... also it looked "ok" 92 kawi 750 bobber... looks so so sexy (still have it for city riding) its awesome for anything under 35 min. dropped it with damage only to the levers... its really freakin awesome and so low to the ground... til you hit bumps, or the rain (bobbers fling water on your back usually), or want to carry some stuff for travely (heavy backpack sucks), or want to give someone a ride (solo seat). fjr1300... looks awesome, feels awesome, leans awesome... does everything awesome.... ya, after about an hour and a half on stock seat/bars you kinda wanna stretch out, but you are on a sports/tourer... you cant do those twisty roads on a cruiser like you can an FJR... in brief... it all depends on where you live. if you have all long straight roads and like long trips like 95% of the time, buy a cruiser with a windscreen and some leg deflectors... if you are 50/50 and /50? for fun/commuting/touring... FJR... just learn your riding style because even a used FJR is still a large investment... learn what you are wanting... and also consider a used FJR and a used light >700cc bike to have even more fun with... my FJR does everything i want... and one of these days i will put up a video of me messing around in a parking lot with not the best tires.
Love your review. BUT (and like Bertha, this is a big butt) I would definitely put the hex on using regular gas in these bikes. My 2013 manual states that the fuel requirements are 86 or higher using R+M/2 rating or 91 or higher using RON rating. I suppose it's up to the individual in whatever location he happens to live to sort that out. (In over 50 years of riding, I have owned many bikes, and this is probably the best bike with probably the worst manual) In any event, these bikes have a 10.8 to 1 CR and and considering the cost of replacing burnt valves or leaking head gasket's, using "regular"gas would seem to be false economy. Do these engines have knock sensors? Your guess is as good as mine.
I totally disagree that there are not significant differences between the gen II and gen III. Having cruise control in itself is a reason to get this bike. I had an 06 with the power commander, traxxion suspension front and rear and I put 124k miles on that bike before selling it in 2013. I then researched the market and bought a street triple r because I wanted something light and fun. It was but I sold it after 8k miles and 6 months and bought a 2013 FJR. It is magnificent. Heated grips, excellent abs, adjustable windshield, cruise, traction control, runs on regular gas, 48mpg. The only things on this bike that need changing are the seat and the horn. The gen III is a much better bike than the Gen II and the gen II is a great bike. The nonsense about not having a 6th gear. There is so much torque that it is not needed and is one less shift to make. The FJR is the best sport tourer on the market, the best dollar for dollar motorcycle, it is fast, safe, reliable, fun, routine maintenance is easy. That is all I got to say. Thanks for the detailed review.
The sixth gear on the 2016 is not to address any torque issues, but to reduce engine revs at highway speed. I recently rode one and it is magnificent. The sixth gear is reason enough to buy a 2016.
Hi Just want to say thank you for posting this video. I have also watched your your BMW 1200 RT and they are both very good. Was that the I92 you were riding as we have been to Davenport twice with our grandkids and like you I tried to find the small roads in our hire car .I currently ride a 09 BMW GS 1200 but if my wife was to give me permission I could e tempted to buy one of these.
Great video thank you. Always loved the FJ right from the air cooled period. Looks lovely in warm your end sorry to say not the say here in UK. Can I ask what you are using to record and edit please. And again thank you safe riding.
Great review, I'm thinking hard about getting on of these, I can't stand the flat matt blue color, is the ES model really a big, nice improvement over the A model? I would just get the grey A model unless you tell me the ES is a game changer and you use it all the time. Thank you very much for any help you can give me, making this buying decision. BTW, I'm a professional landscape designer and I can help you with your yard if you would like, you have been misinformed saying that weeds will come up in your yard and it doesn't matter how much you treat or what you do, it sure does matter, I work in Miami and I can help you control your weeds no problem.
TWOWHEELOBSESSION, BEEN AWHILE ARE YOU STILL AROUND ? CENTRAL STATES STILL CLEAR OR ARE YOU GETTING THE DUST STORM LIKE THEY'RE GETTING IN TEXAS, GEORGIA, ALABAMA, FLORIDA, SOUTH CAROLINA, UP THE SOUTH COAST ? HOW ARE YOU DOING ?
No. The si requires premium fuel. Google top tier fuel. It explains it. It's about the detergent levels. "Supposed to be better". In ohio premium means 93 octane. In California. It only goes to 91. For example.
Many engines require premium, it's simply a factor of compression ratio. The specific number considered 'premium' varies with altitude - the higher you are the lower the number. What exactly are you reading from Honda about any specific brand? I have never heard of anyone, period, with any problems based on a brand of fuel. I have used everything and usually fill at Sams.
Some brands also offer octane rated fuels over the 'premium' threshold, for people running even higher compression. Around our drag strip for example you can get 104 at the pump
I'm thinking of switching from my super tenere to a new FJR. The super tenere whilst being a good bike isn't comfortable at all. I've had hemorrhoids all season long, I had to ride while standing up during long rides, I have to put my legs on the engine guards to stretch them, it sounds like a diesel, and there is no way you can get on this thing without climbing on it. I want something smoother, more civilized, and easier to get on.
:) maybe it's new bike, everything new is good, smooth, quiet, no vibration..etc. Do you remember how it was felt when you purchased your previous bike :).. After all, it's new and everything is perfect!
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Great review. I did have a 2006 FJR, then changed to a K1600GT. Regretted it big time. I'm now back on an FJR, being a 2017 model, I love the 6 gear, LED cornering lights, slipper clutch and electronic suspection. Such a fabulous Sport Tourer. Take care.
This is a superb video, literally one of the very best I've ever seen for any motorcycle.
Thanks very much for you time and efforts, this is just what anyone considering this bike needs to hear.
Thanks a bunch.
Ride safe
Cheers
Tony
I have the same bike / same color and love it. Just completed a 1000 mile tour of the Colorado Rockies and all I can say is that the experience was sublime. Apart from having superb mechanics, the bike is also a work of art, a real testament to great design. Thanks for all your instructive videos, they really come in useful. Perhaps you would consider a how-to on changing the handlebar position. This procedure has not been adequately addressed on the FJR forums and accordingly leads to a lot of confusion, even the manual suggests having the dealer do it. I went ahead and changed mine to a different setting and found the entire process to be quick and simple. I also discovered to my dismay that the dealer had installed the left and right bars at different settings! I agree with other negative comments about the stock seat. I changed mine to a heated Corbin with the companion Smuggler trunk all of which makes for a huge improvement in rider comfort. Another stock weakness was the light output from the rear brake light. The brake light only operates from one of the twin light housings rather than from each of them, consequently I installed a Custom Dynamics Knight Riderz sequential light bar to my license plate frame (which I am informed can be seen from the space station with the naked eye) I have this light bar on all of my other rides and it truly is a great investment in safety... www.amazon.com/Custom-Dynamics-Knight-Riderz-Light/dp/B002TR6WA4/ref=sr_1_1?s=automotive&ie=UTF8&qid=1410981476&sr=1-1
I wish people did reviews this comprehensive for all bike models :P
There are these wings that you can add to the top of the windshield. It is only about half the width of the windshield, but it does magic. It makes your ride much more quiet.
I like your videos. Very helpful when doing maintenance. I have a 2019 ES and I absolutely love this bike. I traded my 2008 BMW in for the Yamaha and was the best decision I made.
Twowheeledobsession,
Brian/Bryan I love the quite sound of this bike and nothing sounds as good as a Yamaha anyway.
Thank you for the review. I just bought a 2014 FJR and am setting it up for me now. Your insights are helpful!
Hi Phillip. Do you still have it and do you have any regrets? Thanks in advance.
The gen2 has a red dashboard at night. It’s beautiful and has dial gauges. Gen 3 went to digital and a white dashboard.
So you know, the FJR is not a bored out, tuned for torque R1, nor is it related to water craft engine. That engine in 2001 was built specifically for the new FJR 1300 bike. It's not even related to the old FJ1200 engine. Quoted from the project leader Hiroshi Komatsubara "To enjoy power from low to high engine rpm we needed a high capacity 4 cylinder engine. With the experience we gained during development of the R1 power-plant, we were able to design a 1300 cc engine which delivers high power output of 145 HP at only 8000 rpm and a breathtaking torque of 125,5 NM at 6000 rpm." While it's not bored out, the FZ1 (both gen 1 and 2) are 'tuned for torque' R1s. (Gen 1 FZ1 uses a 98-99 modified R1 engine. Gen 2 FZ1 uses a 04-06 modified R1 engine.)
Great bike, though. My father owns an 09 that he's selling and getting the 14 ES, just like you have, this spring. I look forward to riding it a bit, when he lets me.
Kind sir I beg to differ with the exhaust conversation. Coffman exhaust is $400 and the bike sounds absolutely perfect deep and throaty. It's a slip on dual exhaust and bruh.......baffles out......the power is there, with or without baffles. You definitely feel the power
I just wanted to tell you how much I appreciate and enjoy your videos. I lost my job 15 months ago following my second massive heart attack but I hope to be back in action soon. I have the FJR as my number 1 choice when I am back on me feet.
Is there anyway you could get a hold of a BMW r1200rt and a Triumph Trophy SE and give them a whirl and an honest comparison with your FJR?
Thanks!
I’m looking to make the move to an FJR and I can’t wait!! I’ll definitely have some videos on it!! It seems very motovlogger friendly!!
There is a huge maintenance advantage on this bike, the recommended valve adjustment is every 24,000 miles. That's money and time in that owners pocket. This will be my next bike.
I love you discussion about the mirrors! Very insightful. I was planning on getting the Honda ST1300 and now I'm wondering if I should get the FJR.
Me too. There seem to be alot more FJ'S available as well. REALLY hard to beat Honda reliability.
Good video. Got an '05 and still running great. Don't see a reason to trade up yet.
Thanks for the review. Looking into getting a FJR and like hearing owner opinions.
FYI, this engine is not the same as the SHO/FZR supercharged 1800cc engines. It is nearly the same as the OLD MR-1 watercraft engine. They are very, very different.
You mentioned the lights and wished they had done the rear lights as LED. I noticed a small red reflector on back below the license plate... There is an after market LED strobe light you can put there (same size) and tie it to your brakes. It is a great accessory!!
Thanks for the review, used to have one back in 2009 (Fantastic Bike) going to bite the bullet, getting the new 2016
What s beautiful bike..!!.. at 48 I started working my way towards getting one..
I really enjoyed watching this review, even though it is on an earlier model FJR. The 2016 model has 6 gears instead of five, and I like that feature.
Another guy from England calls himself Biker Paul, actually got a BMW K1600 GTL and then decided that he is happier with the FJR, and went to it. He likes the FJR more than it, and takes video of some really long cruises on his bike. I ve sat on one in the showroom, and I liked the riding stance a lot better than the Hayabusa. From the looks of things , the FJR will be my choice too. I am interested in long distance riding and I think it is a great choice for that.
The 16-20 models had a recall on the transmission. Second gear grenades. Make Shure the repair has been done before you buy.
@@steveoshortt4791 Thanks for the warning! This is the first i heard that.
I appreciate the time you took to make this video, I'm in the process of picking between Honda, Kawasaki and Yamaha sport touring, used not new. We'll see!!
I happen to come upon your Video looking for info on the FJR 1300. I suddenly realized you are in Pasco County Florida, I used to live in Hudson. Great review !!. When I was there in rode a 1996 BMW R1100R, North US19 in Citrus county is Great ridin'... Enjoy.
Love your up date I've got 2010 model still love it great bike Bernie
This review is the best review of any kind of product I have ever seen. It's almost as if you're taking the bike for a spin. Things that are relevant to the bike are explained so well without wasting the viewers time. Very very nice work!!!
I have now seen a lot of your videos. I love them! Especially they helped in the wintertime here in Denmark, but now the MC season has started, but we still get a little snow :(
You have my dream bike, but I'm on my first bike, a Suzuki SV1000s and got that and the license last year after thinking over it for 18 years. But i hope to buy a bike like yours, but the tax here in Denmark is sooo high, so it cost 48.000 USD as standard.
Keep the videos coming.
I like your video. I currently own a 2010 gen2 Vmax which I love but thinking of making the jump to the fjr1300 after test riding one. I like all the creature comforts it has. Actually the paint is identical to the paint on my vmax, Yamaha calls it candy red and I dig it too. The fjr I test rode had a set of GYTR slip on pipes and I thought they sounded incredible without being loud in any way. I'll hold out until spring and try to get a good deal on a leftover 2014. Thanks, Dan
I have a 2014 fjr es just received my yamaha frame sliders opened the box and found out I have to cut my plastic to install them wish they would have told me that . Not happy with that.
Great Review! I´ve mounted the Beowulf slipons on my FJR. They are quite cheap and have a lifetime warranty. I love how the bike sounds with them. Yamaha FJR1300 with Beowulf Exhaust "(BAFFLES OUT)"
Marko FJR Yeah very cool sound for several hundred under others for sure!!
TwoWheelObsession It was after I saw that videolink that I decided to go for the Beowulfs. I don´t regret it. It comes with the street legal baffles, and they are very easy to remove.
Been thinking about selling my Road King for something more sporty with more giddy up, but god I just cannot decide what to get. The FJR1300 is an obvious contender. The Concours 14 is a huge one too. I'm actually kinda thinking about a Hayabusa too but the chain drive (and less creature comforts in general) really turns me off, I enjoy not having to mess with anything lol. Regular gas is an absolutely HUGE selling point though! I can tell you that with a bike like this, I'm going to be going through a lot of it haha. I used to own a gen 2 vmax, and it is probably the bike with the best fit and finish I've ever ridden, I'm sure that carries over to their sport touring bikes too. God, I loved that bike lol. The 50 mile range just sucked the fun right out of it, though.
Anyway, enough rambling lol. I subbed for sure. Great video. This is one of the best reviews I've ever seen and might have sold me an FJR. I haven't watched your Concours video yet though lol.
@@SusanWillan I ended up getting a ST1300 since I found a good deal and it was one of the best bikes I ever had. Unfortunately Honda discontinued it but if they were still making them I'd have me a new one for sure.
I've still got the FJR on my radar though for sure, I'd recommend any sport touring bike to anyone. I think they're the best kind of bike personally
Hi There, thanks for the review. We are looking to upgrade from our ZX14 (ZZR1400 over there) to get a bit more comfort for longer trips. We rode the GTR1400 (Concours over there) yesterday, and have a ride scheduled for the FJR tomorrow. Just wondering if you can comment on the pressure on your wrists. That's the main thing I am trying to improve from the ZX14, and I noticed that the GTR still had a fairly pronounced lean forward. Do you notice much wrist pressure on the FJR? BTW, we are in Australia...should have mentioned that! The biggest drawback for the FJR is the black only color option, so I might have to wait and see what color appears for Australia in 2015...
Solid review comparing the gen2 to the gen3. One of the best I’ve seen so far. My pockets aren’t deep enough for a gen3 right now but I just put a deposit on a low miles gen2. Which I actually think I prefer style wise. Yup! I’ve also left my wallet one or twice. LOL! And really appreciate the seat height to inseam aspect since I’m only a 29” inseam. But almost every bike I’ve owned over the last 30 years had me on my toes like a ballerina but at least I get an idea what to expect from the fjr. Cheers!
GREAT review.
New Port Richey. It's nice to see... 19 probably STILL looks like that.
Thanks for the comprehensive and intelligent review. Love the bike. Red is certainly the color of choice. Well done!
Just bought a 2007 Burgundy FJR LOVE IT!!!
Great review of the FJR. Thanks for your candid comments.
I really like to know if it is a 4 cylinder motorcycle because I had a Yamaha 650 maximum and I really liked it
Question..what would you suggest,, I have a chance to buy a 2017 fjr1300 es but it is white,,,now as far as I know they didn’t make white,, it isn’t the police white..I did a vin check and it says no accidents or salvage,, has a clean title,,the seller said the previous owner had it painted,,I’m afraid there was damage just never reported so of course it would not come up on the report..should I pull the trigger or walk away,, your honest opinion please
Really nice review. I currently have a 2007 Star Roadliner with the deluxe hardbags and Reckless fairing. I am seriously thinking about trading it in on a FJR 1300ES.
Great review. Much appreciated. Look forward to watching more from you.
I love these videos. I'd love to see a how-to about changing brake & clutch fluids, too
You are lucky in the US we can't get a red in Australia. Anybody know what how to put on cancelling indicators?
Great review thanks.. I currently own a 07 gen 2, had her for two years and been all over Europe. Fantastic bike, I have been tempted to upgrade to the gen 3 but since mine is still in great condition and paid for, I'm not sure it's really worth it.
Great video as usual. You should be able to reset mpg via the rubber reset button to the left of the tach. I don't believe it resets on it's own. It took me a bit to figure that out. Have you experienced any clicking noises on initial throttle input or any popping from the floating rotors?
Craig Fortner Oh I wasn't talking about resetting it, just how long it updates for the running average. Like every mile, 5, 10, etc. No noises.
Ah that makes sense. Thanks for the clarification. This is my first FJR so I have been finding your how to videos very useful. Riding tonight I didn't notice any noise on initial throttle input. Rotors seem to get better with miles, have about 1100 on mine since 8/1.
Has anyone test driven the FJR and then test driven the Honda ST 1300? I have just test driven a very clean low mileage original owner ST 1300 on an 85° day. Within 15 minutes I was roasting from engine heat..
I have heard for years that the FJR was too hot in hot weather to ride. Has anyone written the FJR and then written an ST 1300? Which one is hotter
Twowheeledobsession,
Maybe their admiring that bike ?
Green would be a nice choice in color. Had a small car in red, same color as yours and had every cop in country pulling me over to see what basketball star that comes out to fish our waters and would ask me to step out of vehicle to talk only. So, your color has a recall in my mind to not get that color.
Although, it is a pretty color and a lot of people like them, but has a recall in my memory of that little Ford Festiva...
Not sure if you still have this bike or if you've sold it by now but did this model have heated grips? I think you may have mentioned it. Love the color. I like my bikes visible. As far as the windscreen I would have recommended to you to buy an MRA clamp-on wind deflector. They're angle adjustable and always do the job right.
Linked braking I had on my 2006 Honda VFR800 Interceptor. Lots of people hated that but I absolutely loved it. Now it seems all the sport tourers use them.
Nice thorough review, thank you.
hey what bike is better the fjr1300 or honda st1300 please help
Nice review of a nice bike.
There are lots of old ones for sale in UK for around 3 to £4k, worth it or false economy?
I agree about the stock seat being uncomfortable after a 100 miles or so. We got the Yamaha comfort seat thrown in as part of the deal. We had our Pan European's seat redesigned for the same reason. I think that bikes nowadays whilst being much better than the old bikes (1970s and 1980s) come with ridiculously uncomfortable seats. You shouldn't have to spend more money on something so basic as a seat after spending best part of £14,000 on the bike! I guess I'll just have to see how the new bar ends alter the bike's vibration range. Re the colour of red mixed with a little silver? I personally think that it adds to the bike's beauty. It sets off the red and black nicely. We have a black tank cover rather than a silver one for the same reason. Would you fit a topbox to yours? Lynn won't ride with me (or will if absolutely necessary) without the topbox fitted as apart from the security of having it behind her, she enjoys the comfortable back rest to lean on. Re the riding position. When I first rode the FJR after owning the Pan European, I found that my hips ached a little because of the higher foot position on the pegs. The Pan has a lower ground clearance and therefore the foot pegs are lower. I still get my hip especially my left one aching at times but I think this isn't helped by my lack of physical fitness and our rather damp and cold climate. You spoke about the mirrors, well I agree that they're amongst the best out there. The Pan European's mirrors were superb too but I think the FJR's mirrors being higher up beat these. You mentioned about the 'blind spot' and how you don't need to look as far over your shoulders? Well since I fitted my Riderscan (www.huntercreate.com/ ) to the screen I have never looked back! Pun intended of course! I fitted mine with industrial strength velcro and yes it looks slightly odd, but it makes motorway riding (especially last year when on the German autobahns) much much safer. I can passively see everything that's around me at all times whilst keeping my eyes firmly ahead. Take a look at the website. I too have got the FJR taller screen. The only gripe I have with the FJR's weather protection versus the Pan European's weather protection, is that the Pan offers a much better coverage. Because we live in a colder climate than you Bryan, this is an issue. I found that my upper arms are exposed to the wind whereas on the Pan there was no problem there. Obviously if you sit on the Pan you can clearly see why this is. It's much wider than the FJR. Would I go back to the Pan? No. I still have affection for the bike (we've owned two ST1300s) and unless Honda pull their finger out and bring out another Pan or equivalent bike, I'm sticking with Yamaha. Yamaha have updated the FJR whereas Honda's Pan has remained the same since its launch in 2002. Well in closing Bryan, great review presented so well as usual. I too love to watch ride videos especially in parts of the World I will probably never be lucky enough to ride. Thank you for the effort you put into the videos. Aren't we bikers so lucky!!! Ride safe.
Paul.
FJR Biker Paul Thanks for the reply man! I agree, the seats could so easily be more comfy, obviously many other bikes get it right from the factory, there's no excuse. I may get a top case and if I do it will have a backrest for sure.
By the way, I bought a tank cover for this bike , made in France. It comes with a tank bag that attaches to the tank cover and it is a great design.
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seems many could spend time dialing in the manual suspension as needed on non es and call it good
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Hey Man, i like the way you make your videos. My ride is a generation 2 and i still love it. But if i see your video, it itches to upgrade.
GRTZ from Belgium from Filip
I have a 09 Honda st1300 and love it, but do notice a vibration at higher speeds from the engine and thinking like you mentioned fuel/ and tuning? I had an 06 and never noticed it before. I did enjoy watching this and wishing I was out riding but today is about 116 outside ya Phoenix sucks this time of yr. I did change the exhaust to Two Brothers and love the sound and no I bought them used on Ebay you will not see me spending 1000 bucks. Thanks for sharing.
Love your video. Next time you need tires, try the Michelin Pilot Road4 GT. I get 12000 miles out of a set
Been running them for 1000 miles now :)
Greetings from France !!!
your channel is very nice !!
congratulations
love the look, but, not everyone wants digital LCD gauges. still rather have analog style myself, along with many other riders
I don't really agree on the exhaust part, i've got second gen FJR a year ago. Of course it came used, and the pretty sad part - drilled pipes. I wanted to get something better look and sound wise, so the choice fell on the pair of British Beowulfs. The price was under 400 bucks for a pair of brand new ones. They look almost the same as stock ( of course, better, since they are new ) they also sound much lower in a standard "legal" state. There's also a removable mufflers option, if you love or need (safety wise) more noise. The only bad thing i noticed is that the glued logo of manufacturer will come off pretty soon if you polish them too much. Love the bike tho, inline four works a bit strange at first, if you didn't encounter it before. The most shocking thing was a fuel economy. Since we don't have 87 in EU, i use 95 and get 45 to 50 mph on average. Of course im quite a calm rider, but that's still very strange for a 150 bhp 1300cc almost 10 year old machine. Looking forward to get one of the 2014 models. The biggest complaint i have is an absence of 6th gear. For a touring bike, that's a very big shame.
Check cone engineering for exhaust and mufflers
Thanks for the video. I'm looking at buying that bike next year.
Wonderful review of the fjr
Enjoyed this video. Have watched it several times. My next bike will be an FJR1300. I like the red and silver mix tree. I have not seen that colour mix here in New Zealad.
... New Zealand.
+nzbeeker1 we've got our eye on one here in South Africa, 2nd hand but we'll be 2nd owners, elder guy had it so its well looked after, he's advertising it as showroom condition, 2008 model with 52000km on the clock, so a real jewel!! top half cherry red bottom half silver [factory colors], wanted to post the pic here for you but youtube doesn't want to let me
I am in the process of deciding on an FJR. I found a 2015 A model for a great price but I’m unsure if I should hold out for an ES. I’ll be switching between 1 and 2 rider pretty often but the A model does have a “hard” and “soft” switch for when riding 2-up. Do I really need all of those different settings for suspension or will the hard and soft switch work just fine?
What did you end up going with? I'm eyeballing a 2006 and a 2014, mostly for the cruise control. I ride 6-8 hours at least every few months. Currently on a Harley ultra
So you roll 270+ miles before you need to refuel. . . Not bad!! I was thinking about upgrading sometime in the near future and wasn't absolutely sure to what. Been hung up on Hondas since I own one and hadn't considered another make until recently. This model just may sell me, mostly because of the sportiness and tremendous space. But I have the inseam issue also. So unless I can drop it an inch I won't be comfortable and will likely ditch the idea altogether. I guess I could bring another pair of shoes besides bike boots, I don't know. But it is beautiful machine!!
I am thinking about buy this exact year...... I am only 5'8"....... will I have trouble flat footing this bike even with seat lowered?
hifi noob 2018 I would say no need to worry. I am 5'9 and ride a Honda Crossrunner. It's a tall bike and I could lower the seat height - but I don't. I enjoy the good view instead.
Perhaps you already have a FJR now?
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Yes, this is an old video watched it many times cannot wait to see what the 2025 will look like getting rid of my Harley Street glide to buy one
Bryan, excellent video, and beautiful bike! I finally got my Class M last year, and have been riding 750s. Not as wobbly as when I started out, but definitely not a "pro-tourer," either. What is your opinion on someone like me going for a sport-tourer, like the FJR? Is 1300cc something a greenhorn could handle, or am I better off staying around the range I'm already used to? I'm also concerned about operating costs, so when you say the tires don't last as long, that does give me pause. However, I only ride from May-September, as I'm in one of the northern states. Again, great video; thumbs-up and subbed!
Did you end up buying one?
Nice video. You should mention what year they went from generation 2 to 3.
I note that the sidewalks in your hood are right on the curb and people park on them.
Watched up to your tyre remarks. Great review. I noticed that you don't have your heavier bar ends on? I've ordered a pair for our FJR as I do suffer from numbness in my hands when riding at motorway speeds (70mph) for long periods. I've got Bridgestone 023-R's on the bike and they've started to square off after around 4500 miles. We do have twisties around here but to get there there is quite a bit of motorway riding to be done first. I've got a tank cover on ours and a topbox. Yamaha amazingly don't recommend you carry a topbox and panniers at the same time! What?????? This is a touring bike. Needless to say that I have ignored that. There are riders who have many 1000s of miles two up and fully loaded that have had no problems at all. It's bed time now so I'll watch the rest of the review tomorrow. Goodnight.
FJR Biker Paul The bar ends are gone over later in the vid :)
I see. It's 7.40am, can't sleep anymore so it's FJR review video time!
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Great review!
I've owned many bikes my last two being RC51 & ZX11. It's time to get the wife involved, how is it for 2 up riding?
I'll be commuting and light to med touring. I've checked out multiple HD's & Indians...just not my thing. Also looked at the new K1600B & really liked it.....but $26000 is a tough pill to swallow. Thx again for the review & input.
Nice video. How do you get such quiet audio?
Thanks for the great review. Any recommendations for GPS unit installation? I'm planning to switch to FJR1300es from my RSV4R (getting old.. haha) for more touring capacity and a GPS is a must for me.
What's your opinion on top tier fuel vs others. Ie. shell. Bp. Exxon. Compared to SAMs. On My civic si. Honda recommends top tier. Which in ohio. Is the above mentioned.
kelly j That makes no sense, there is no quality issue with a brand, and i have never heard of such a recommendation. Are you confusing the need for certain octane ratings?
Great Review, thank you. I ride a Vstar 1100 Silverado. I would like to get FJR 1300 with a top case for touring.
What is the maximum weight capacity for rider an pillion?
I'm looking at the FJ1300 or Concours right now. Do you have any input?
Thank you
How is the acceleration on this bike? For instance, passing a car on a two lane rd... how fast you think this bike could do it? I want something that's still got some acceleration and torque of a sport bike but with the upright seating and comfort of this bike. I don't really care about crazy speed... I probably won't be traveling over 70 very much at all. I just want good, fast acceleration and handling.
Thanks!
AdoreYouInAshXI Insane. It pulls like a freight train to 140 no joke.
My 2015 es is in the mail! I'm switching to it from a gsx-r 600. Have you had the opportunity to engage the abs or check the hard braking performance? Also, how's the wet weather performance? Thanks a lot for the great video!
Scotty Schumann Yes yes and all are awesome lol
Nice review....actually considering this bike
Superb video thankyou
Regards from Australia
Great Job. Thanks a lot for the review.
Do the side cases come with the bike or are they an option?
they come with it except in Canada
Max Knots Sorry I had the inner bags on my mind when I read your questions. The HARD cases are standard everywhere. The inner SOFT cases are standard everywhere but Canada.
The inner softbags do not come standard in Germany - cost around 100€
How would this bike be comfort wise with a 6'3, 6'4 rider in comparison to the Concours 14. Which one would you recommend to a taller rider?
Dalton Duckett Sorry I don't have seat time on the Connie, only sat on them in the showroom and I liked the FJR better as far as the triangle.
Really enjoyed your review. Debating if i should trade in my sports bike for an FJR 1300.
keep the sport bike and buy the FJ anyway. Now you have a nice road bike and a track machine too.
Stephen Karpathakis if you dont do track riding i would just get an FJR...
i am not an salty rider by any means.... i have only been riding for 3-4 years in montana so like 8 mos times 4 is like 2.5 years...
my 08 fjr is my 4th bike... starting from bikes i had after a 2 day class... 79 kawi 650 (for 3 months til it broke), 82 zuki gs1100, then a 92 kawi 750 bobber... now i have an FJR....
all of those bikes, i was wishing they could be more "all round" bikes...
79 kawi - i was thinking, wow this is top heavy, not reliable, revs really high on highway, but looks cool
82 gs1100, crazy fast in a straight line, fine on the highway but super hot in city, but, unreliable and just afraid of the maintenance to be honest... also it looked "ok"
92 kawi 750 bobber... looks so so sexy (still have it for city riding) its awesome for anything under 35 min. dropped it with damage only to the levers... its really freakin awesome and so low to the ground... til you hit bumps, or the rain (bobbers fling water on your back usually), or want to carry some stuff for travely (heavy backpack sucks), or want to give someone a ride (solo seat).
fjr1300... looks awesome, feels awesome, leans awesome... does everything awesome.... ya, after about an hour and a half on stock seat/bars you kinda wanna stretch out, but you are on a sports/tourer... you cant do those twisty roads on a cruiser like you can an FJR...
in brief... it all depends on where you live. if you have all long straight roads and like long trips like 95% of the time, buy a cruiser with a windscreen and some leg deflectors...
if you are 50/50 and /50? for fun/commuting/touring... FJR...
just learn your riding style because even a used FJR is still a large investment... learn what you are wanting... and also consider a used FJR and a used light >700cc bike to have even more fun with...
my FJR does everything i want... and one of these days i will put up a video of me messing around in a parking lot with not the best tires.
Love your review. BUT (and like Bertha, this is a big butt) I would definitely put the hex on using regular gas in these bikes. My 2013 manual states that the fuel requirements are 86 or higher using R+M/2 rating or 91 or higher using RON rating. I suppose it's up to the individual in whatever location he happens to live to sort that out. (In over 50 years of riding, I have owned many bikes, and this is probably the best bike with probably the worst manual) In any event, these bikes have a 10.8 to 1 CR and and considering the cost of replacing burnt valves or leaking head gasket's, using "regular"gas would seem to be false economy.
Do these engines have knock sensors? Your guess is as good as mine.
Thanks for the opinion. These engines have always been designed for regular, it's a complete non-issue. Do whatever you like with yours...
I totally disagree that there are not significant differences between the gen II and gen III. Having cruise control in itself is a reason to get this bike. I had an 06 with the power commander, traxxion suspension front and rear and I put 124k miles on that bike before selling it in 2013. I then researched the market and bought a street triple r because I wanted something light and fun. It was but I sold it after 8k miles and 6 months and bought a 2013 FJR. It is magnificent. Heated grips, excellent abs, adjustable windshield, cruise, traction control, runs on regular gas, 48mpg. The only things on this bike that need changing are the seat and the horn. The gen III is a much better bike than the Gen II and the gen II is a great bike. The nonsense about not having a 6th gear. There is so much torque that it is not needed and is one less shift to make. The FJR is the best sport tourer on the market, the best dollar for dollar motorcycle, it is fast, safe, reliable, fun, routine maintenance is easy. That is all I got to say. Thanks for the detailed review.
Thanks!!
The sixth gear on the 2016 is not to address any torque issues, but to reduce engine revs at highway speed. I recently rode one and it is magnificent. The sixth gear is reason enough to buy a 2016.
Hi Just want to say thank you for posting this video. I have also watched your your BMW 1200 RT and they are both very good. Was that the I92 you were riding as we have been to Davenport twice with our grandkids and like you I tried to find the small roads in our hire car .I currently ride a 09 BMW GS 1200 but if my wife was to give me permission I could e tempted to buy one of these.
Great video thank you. Always loved the FJ right from the air cooled period. Looks lovely in warm your end sorry to say not the say here in UK. Can I ask what you are using to record and edit please. And again thank you safe riding.
Dobbo2958 Thanks! GoPro 3+ Black, all detailed in my other vids as well :)
Great review, I'm thinking hard about getting on of these, I can't stand the flat matt blue color, is the ES model really a big, nice improvement over the A model? I would just get the grey A model unless you tell me the ES is a game changer and you use it all the time. Thank you very much for any help you can give me, making this buying decision.
BTW, I'm a professional landscape designer and I can help you with your yard if you would like, you have been misinformed saying that weeds will come up in your yard and it doesn't matter how much you treat or what you do, it sure does matter, I work in Miami and I can help you control your weeds no problem.
I just got a '16 ES and love the electronic suspension. I don't note any benefit to the cornering lights. Have put 3,500 miles on it since May 1.
Well done. Great to hear about all the issues, good and bad.
Anyone come off an fz1 to one of these. If so positives and negatives got a 09 fz1 I like but interested in one of these
I'm looking at buying one
I'm 6'4
how tall are you?
This is a nice bike but the pan European st 1300 has better leg and body protection.
TWOWHEELOBSESSION,
BEEN AWHILE ARE YOU STILL AROUND ?
CENTRAL STATES STILL CLEAR OR ARE YOU GETTING THE DUST STORM LIKE THEY'RE GETTING IN TEXAS, GEORGIA, ALABAMA, FLORIDA, SOUTH CAROLINA, UP THE SOUTH COAST ?
HOW ARE YOU DOING ?
No. The si requires premium fuel. Google top tier fuel. It explains it. It's about the detergent levels. "Supposed to be better". In ohio premium means 93 octane. In California. It only goes to 91. For example.
Many engines require premium, it's simply a factor of compression ratio. The specific number considered 'premium' varies with altitude - the higher you are the lower the number. What exactly are you reading from Honda about any specific brand? I have never heard of anyone, period, with any problems based on a brand of fuel. I have used everything and usually fill at Sams.
Some brands also offer octane rated fuels over the 'premium' threshold, for people running even higher compression. Around our drag strip for example you can get 104 at the pump
I enjoy your videos a lot, but what do you mean when you say 'bucks'? Thank you.
Wonderful review!
Nevermind me, just reliving why I purchased this bike 7 years ago! 😉
I'm thinking of switching from my super tenere to a new FJR. The super tenere whilst being a good bike isn't comfortable at all. I've had hemorrhoids all season long, I had to ride while standing up during long rides, I have to put my legs on the engine guards to stretch them, it sounds like a diesel, and there is no way you can get on this thing without climbing on it.
I want something smoother, more civilized, and easier to get on.
:) maybe it's new bike, everything new is good, smooth, quiet, no vibration..etc. Do you remember how it was felt when you purchased your previous bike :)..
After all, it's new and everything is perfect!