Choosing Between Beliefs and Experience | Rupert Spira
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- Опубліковано 24 лип 2024
- In this video they discuss the experience of a separate self in relation to consciousness, exploring awareness, truths, beliefs and experience. The conversation encourages questioning and cautious exploration, emphasizing the constancy of awareness amidst transient experiences.
Timestamps:
00:00 Exploring the separate self and it's qualities
01:45 Are we aware of our experience?
02:50 Does "I am aware" vanish?
04:05 Our thoughts and perceptions come to an end
06:10 Do our sensations come and go?
08:50 That what is shared in all our sensations
10:00 Can the mind see consciousness?
11:59 What is meant by of 'higher reasoning'?
13:45 Are our emotions obscuring us?
16:00 The conflict between experience and belief
17:45 Exposing the separate self
19:30 Choosing between beliefs and experience
23:20 Having an open loving approach
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Rupert Spira is the best non duality teacher of our time.. I am so so so so so grateful for his thoughtful, slowed down pace... thank you Rupert... oh thank you...
For the Western culture, I have yet to come across a better one.
SavageArfad I've read "I Am That" several times over. I think much of Rupert's teachings come direct directly from the Maharaj.
You may try Mooji. Another greatest master of non duality. Eckhart Toll and Adyashanti are amazing too. Sadhguru from India is the best in the world in Kundalini Yoga or Yoga related to awaken the hidden energy in human body.
Im totally agree as you chose the same Masters as I love too...and I would add Robert Adams too))
I really like Eckhart Tolle too. Rupert is brilliant, a bit more kinda hard logic than Eckhart but Eckhart explain it extremely well too.
I cannot resist myself saying... ... "Ramana Maharshi' s SILENCE IS BEING EXPRESSED in Rupert spira' s WORDS "
.."SILENCE EXPRESSED IN WORDS " !
The brave vulnerability of the questioner, met with the apparent softening of Rupert. This was very special to watch.
That might by the gayest comment on all of UA-cam 🍆💦🤣
TasteMyStinkhole 😂
sweet mother of god, that went deep! clear as always, Rupert, thank you
Choosing to trust your experience over choosing to trust your beliefs. And that is your free choice. I understand the questioner when he thinks that belief is more powerful, because in our society, we have been conditioned to think this way. And that is only part of the "veil". But Rupert shines the light of true awareness onto him and all of us. It truly is all perfect. Thank you.
What I reason from listening to this. I often hear people wanting to go back and do the same thing that they've done before," Oh I had such a wonderful time,I want to do that again." Then they come back and say it just wasn't the same, they say they are disappointed. We cannot repeat an experience. I notice from this talk or what to do is trust every experience. I experience the experience with my seeing tasting, feeling, hearing, smelling. Every experience is different. I am conscious of the experience. I am aware of the experience. I am not the experience. When in an experience of emotion and a belief behind the emotion which tells me this is not right. When I argue with reality. Is my opportunity to go into the emotion and inquire into the thinking behind the emotion. What is holding up this emotion. What is holding up this fear. I love your work Rupert Thank you
Rupert describes that place - stuck between acceptance of the essential self intellectually but still experiencing the feeling of the separate limited self, - so perfectly. He is the embodiment of wisdom.
This might just be Rupert's most important video.
Such sensitivity to the problem many of us have with this approach. Heartening, helpful and caring. It's wonderful to see how Rupert 'gets' what our difficulties are and gives comfort for those of us not yet there.
Self-delusion and self-hypnosis are powerful tools to convince yourself of any idiocy conceivable.
Rupert's tongue must be a katana, because he speaks with a sharpness that not many are able to speak with.
thank you rupert for your work.
He is a sniper of light and truth.
He puts his finger directly on it, every time, doesn't he?
Beautiful. One of the best I've watched.
Yet another brilliant session Rupert..Mr Spira is rapidly becoming the leading Non Dual place to be.
*non dual no place to not be 🙃
My man!!!! You made it all simple. I've never understood life this clearly before reading and listening to Rupert! Thanks homie!! I wanna meet you to thank you in person someday!
Such an important video. I find it requires great courage and a thirst for truth. Thank you for posting.
This is so beautifully articulated 🙏☺️ I had like an Awha moment about not being limited in time and space, but being infinite. Even though I knew this, I didn't have the thoughts to identify that awareness as infinite
I’ve seen this video before and never tire of it. It’s difficult to watch in some ways and that’s the point to me: getting at those vulnerable, self admitted beliefs that almost all of us have that stop us from the Ultimate Understanding
Rupert is a freaking genius!
Again Rupert at his very best!
Thank you Rupert.
very very very caring in this inquiry ... Rupert you are truly a pure manifestation of loving, infinite, ever present consciousness
All that you see in Rupert is in you
Rupert,....Thank you dearly...always !!! To just be willing to see only what is Real in each and everyone, in each and everything....
Thank you, Rupert. Thank you. It's great!!! Namaste.
truly amazing, no one ever mentioned this before
Rupert is, as always, brilliant and speaks with so much clarity. Absolutely amazing!
I'm always amazed listening to Rupert's articulations, thanks Rupert! :)
OMG, I found Rupert a few days ago and each of his video has been liberating me. While watching this video I have fallen to similar awareness as during Ayahuasca ceremonies, it is incredible!
Ruperts pointers are so to the point that it leaves no room for ambiguity.Its so direct and to the point .Only what is meant by him is understood clearly .Grateful
Briliant! So pacefull. So kind. :)
This is one of my favs from rupert
Hats off to you RUPERT !!!
The CONFIDENCE in which you speak shows your CLARITY OF EXISTENTIAL EXPERIENCE!!
This CONFIDENCE born out of CLARITY expresses as PATIENCE in CONVEYING THE TRUTH of Direct method to Non-dual Consciousness.
Thank you Rupert... you explain so well... all so very helpful!
Another very clear session. Thank you for clarity of thought and compassion Rupert.
Thank you for your clear pointing to our true existence as awareness. We have been trained from birth to believe in our experience. In my daily practice, I am looking at everything thing that I see, and see it as part of Gods movie or dream.
I love how he takes time to break down his answers so the questioner can understand
That was just brilliant.
if the truth should be told so as to be understood. it will be believed. the concessions we must make to be understood is mind boggling.
Gracen DeRaffele
i think terrance mckenna said this.
+Gracen DeRaffele But what about 'knowing' as opposed to 'believing'?
yes..love of truth. People sleep on Rupert.
I love him!
Simply superb
Excellent !
To nurture the true Self, Spira guides us towards experience, and away from our beliefs.
I couldn't love this more if I tried.
DANG! Amazing
its like the more i watch. its about the same stuff. but I understand more and more with how its explained. without my own daily self awareness. Specially how he states that its not true about seemly stuff replaces. not to go down that route... cause it will only create it. but its separate from awareness already. dont look to feel awareness let iT be you.
Thank you
While Consciousness is the deepest "continuity," it would seem to make sense also to speak of the "objects" (i.e. perceptions) of the waking-world possessing a relative sort of "continuity" -- which is what allows me to remember "my house" or "my car" or "my spouse" etc. In other words, forms retain a similarity in appearance across time -- which it seems fair to designate also as "continuity." And this is one of the main differences between dreaming and waking-world appearances: the latter are generally more continuous.
Finally, either the 'beliefs' get converted into Experience or die as if unborn object !! Ofcourse'experience' too dies as if another born, lived and dead object !!! The only thing to remain present then be like 'I', awareness, consciousness, you name it or just live it !!!
World inverted !!!
Genius!
i do this in the pub holding my pint,is the energy that everything is different from the energy in this satsang.
19:03
I like his clear and practical explanations of non-dual principles, and the fact that he hasn't adopted a pretentious-sounding new "Guru" name. Also, being fairly cynical, I checked the price to attend one of his satsangs , and saw "recommended donation $10-$20". Seems a reasonable price to cover expenses. Eckhart Tolle tickets are $57.00 - $197.00. My understanding is that the more expensive tickets give you the privilege of asking Eckhart a question.
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Clearly the advaitic teachers are not immune to the temptations of the material world. At least not the western ones. Makes me wish I could have been around when you had to make a pilgrimage to India and then the trek to Arunachala to hear Ramana Marharshi, or find Nisargadatta's tenement apartment to be at his satsang, at no charge.
I can recommend a book called Spiritual Economics
@@nomorecaterpillar I hear you but what's wrong with making a living? Nowadays, most of those guys put so much out there for free...
@@delcapslock100 Ramana and Nisargadatta were deeply cared for, no need for extra charge and devotees were bringing them presents as well. Everyone deserves a decent living so why would we get their precious help for free?
10:08 What is common in our experiences (the movies) is the screen (consciousness).
Beliefs is a compass experience is the act of walking towards the compass points too .
Or not...
That would mean I have been wrong all these years. Very tough to accept.
True
what happens when thinking becomes an endless new experience, like awareness?
Everytime i hear about the meditation. Can you put these on you tube as well?
Yeah i agree, if that's possible to share :D i would like to try it. At least one meditetion :)
Chichikn yeah yeah yeah do it do it
It is possible to forget awareness though. Sometimes Im not aware that I'm aware. If I die I'm not going to be aware.
I feel the frustration of the questioner. Im in the same spot, if there was a Rupert Spira wirtten test on non duality, i'd get an A+, but it goes no deeper.
Balloonbot because youre not releasing the accumuluated feelings that support the belief
Namaste. This will now grow like wildfire
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Thank you. I confirm this with my experience. The only part is not quite clear to me is that if Awareness is limitless and infinite, then why I am not aware of other peoples emotions, thoughts? So, the infinite Awareness manifests in different bodies and provides some privacy to individuals?
Indeed.... otherwise there would be no variety. At least to me, the universe is experiencing itself through us, so there must be afforded a small degree of individuality! Otherwise it would just 'be' and not 'grow' if that makes sense.
+Mels Ismailov We all live in the same universe, but in different worlds. In one sense we are all radically alone. I cannot experience your experience. You cannot experience my experience. Nobody can live for me, or die for me, experience pain for me or joy for me. Nobody can cry for me or laugh for me or dance for me. I go through all of that in radical aloneness. We all share the same Awareness, which is aware of itself only, the feelings, thoughts , sensations , emotions are body-mind symptoms/person/ego. All minds are separate from each other, sharing the same field awareness containing mind -body..
Since they are all thought and perception ....experience comes and go, so maybe we just forgot others experience.
+Mels Ismailov: You're not aware of other people's emotions and thoughts for the same reason that you probably don't speak Swahili: you never learned to do so. In contrast, telepathy is a demonstrated ability in some people . . .
The sensation is also not located. It only feels like it is. It only seems to be. If it were located, in what would it be? The body/mind is only known by the current sensation, feeling, thought, perception. There is no organized, cohesive, continuing body/mind.
7:40
Ok.. but.. Those sensations don't go away for me. The feeling of the mix would persist until I make it change into something else. All sensations persist until I force them to be replaced. My thoughts don't have form, they are neither words nor image. They possess no substance, they just.. are. When I choose to give them a semblance of form I see that they are all a part of an interconnected fractal web of patterns within patterns.. but without form or substance.. they just flow smoothly within themselves. Parts of this "web" are known to me, and parts are not yet known to me, but I know they will be. Learning something new is akin to.. illuminating a part of the web.. or.. figuring out what it is. However, it feels like it's always been there waiting for me to see it. As such, I always know, and have always known, when something I experience is truth, even if I am not yet aware of why it is truth. It just feels like it is a part of me already.
Also.. those two sensations are the same thing.. that's how I experience it.. The differences between them are just.. It's like a wave.. The amplitude, wavelength, and frequency of a wave can change.. but the wave is a wave. Those sensations are the same, all sensations are in a way, but they're just this thing being mixed with itself and making something that is more than itself. I don't think that helps explain it at all, but then again I've not been successful at explaining it to anyone thus far. English lacks the words necessary to describe what I mean.
But if I have pain, like i've just hurt my knee, then I'm _the only one_ who can feel it! I have to describe it to my doctor, and he doesn't even get it then and has to x-ray it. Doesn't that make it _my own_ objective experience, separate from all other people on the planet?
Please somebody help me with this, I have the same as this guy!
Not objective! Subjective. People with extracensory abilities can feel other's pain, also any feelings or emotions, also presence of thoughts. But to actually "hear" thoughts is very difficult and only several people among 7 billion can actually do it. Because thoughts are most subtle vibrations. For instance I can easily feel other's feelings and emotions as if they are mine. Also intentions and desires. For example if someone wants to kill me or do some other harm I can detect it. But I cannot hear someone's internal thoughts or speaking to himself. Thoughts are complex. There are 2 kinds of thoughts. Deep and slow thinking. And surface and fast. With the help of deep thinking combined with belief(faith) we can change our future. It is an instrument of future changing. Mechanism is combining deep thinking with particular emotion.
Beliefs are the old map, experience the real territory now.
Intellectual Comprehension/Understanding without true Realization or Embodiment is false and futile....
That would mean my emotions and most especially MY BELIEFS are not true. My emotions are guided by my BELIEFS. This attacks who I BELIEVE me to be. .Have I been wrong all these years??? Very tough to accept. I have devoted my entire life to my beliefs. This means I am responsible for my suffering. My beliefs have caused my suffering. I interpret my experience by my beliefs. Yet my experiences have shaped my beliefs. Seems like a vicious circle.
What if (deep down) you’re That which DOESN’T change?
www.figuredout.us/who-are-you/what-if-youre-that-which-doesnt-change
The I am is the illusion Rupert. You got it backwards my friend.
Testa I believe he knows that.He meets people where they’re at.
ALL THE CONFLICTS IN THE WORLD ARE NOT REAL CONFLICTS; THEY ARE CONFLICTS BETWEEN BELIEFS AND EXPERIENCES !!
... I would add , the CONFLICTS are between "my beliefs " v/s " your beliefs ". Beliefs are given more waittage than " our common experiences " as Human Beings.
1. We strongly BELIEVE that we are Christians/ Muslims.... etc. Over our NON - DUAL experience of Being HUMANS !!!!
o mystery o0Ooo000ooOOO
My beliefs can't be wrong! Please be quiet Rupert your screwing up my world!!!
Could be me having sex with my wife for example......I feel separate......so ????
is this a joke?
Experience can be result of illusion or deception. Science has no beliefs rather it is based on evidence that can be verified anywhere and anytime. I like Rupert's talks in general but strongly disagree with him that experience can be more authentic than scientific evidence.
Again Rupert at his very best!