Did Shad Khan Put Doug Pederson on Notice? | 2 PROS & A CUP OF JOE

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  • Опубліковано 27 чер 2024
  • 2 PROS & A CUP OF JOE - Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox, and LaVar Arrington discuss what to make of Jacksonville Jaguars owner Shad Khan's recent comments on the state of the team.
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  • @chasechance711
    @chasechance711 11 днів тому +14

    Doug has put in 2 winning seasons in a row for our franchise. No way he’s on hot seat yet

  • @DUUUVALJAGS
    @DUUUVALJAGS 11 днів тому +17

    Spot on with the Trevor Lawrence analysis, but just lazy journalism to suggest Doug Pederson is on the hot seat. The Jags have finished plus .500 in his 2 years as the HC. The only two people on the hot seat are Press Taylor and Trent Baalke ✅

    • @leevancleef358
      @leevancleef358 11 днів тому +1

      WHY would Trent Baalke be on the Hot Seat? His FA picks turned us around from 3-14 to 9-8...he has been GM for 3 yrs and we went from WORST team in league...to legit Playoff Contender/Division Winner...Baalke has done a very good job.

    • @DUUUVALJAGS
      @DUUUVALJAGS 11 днів тому +2

      @@leevancleef358if the draft picks beyond round 1 don't produce in combination with a bad season then Baalke could be gone. Throwing money at free agents (which he's good at) isn't sustainable... And definitely not acceptable if it doesn't result in wins. The back-to-back winning seasons could be attributed to TLaw and Pederson... In spite of Baalke

    • @leevancleef358
      @leevancleef358 11 днів тому

      @@DUUUVALJAGS NAH...Baalke in 2021 signed Rayshawn Jenkins Marvin Jones Jamal Agnew Roy Robertson Harris then drafted Trevor ,Travis, Tyson Camp, Walker Little, Andre Cisco..Then 2022 signed FA Foye, Kirk, Zay Jones, Evan Engram, and Darious Williams...and then drafted Travon, Devin Lloyd...that is some GREAT work...if you gonna HATE you gotta give him credit...those guys were ALL GOOD players for us and are the REASON why we went from WORST to 9-8...if anything Doug's LOUSY coaching Hires of Caldwell and Press Taylor as Coordinators have been the problem. WATCH what Nielsen does with SAME GUYS Caldwell had..Caldwell was AWFUL and Press Taylor BLOWS.

    • @isaiah904s
      @isaiah904s 11 днів тому

      @@leevancleef358😂😂 very good job are you new here

    • @leevancleef358
      @leevancleef358 11 днів тому

      @@isaiah904s Nope...Jags fan for 20 years now...I call it like I see it...All these Baalke haters refuse to give him any credit for some REALLY good moves...he has done ALOT of good things here...I call him out on some things too but overall I actually think he has done a HELL of a good job.

  • @SmaugUKA
    @SmaugUKA 9 днів тому +2

    Doug Pederson is not the problem for the Jaguars. The biggest problems the Jags have are at the top of the organization. Those two being Baalke and Shad himself. Baalke has routinely been close to, if not the least respected GM in the League ever since his last year or 2 with the 49ers. When Baalke was hired by Shad, head coach hopefuls and other people trying to get jobs on the management side pulled out due to hearing of Baalke's hire. Shad originally had another Head Coach in mind, but the person dropped out as soon as Baalke was hired. If Doug is relieved of his duties before Baalke, that just shows yet again that Shad does not know what he's doing and is blind to the elephants in the room that are Baalke and himself.
    Doug was not Shad's first choice. Doug was the "best" coach available that could deal with Baalke. Not taking away any of Pederson's accomplishments. The man is a great coach. I'm simply stating facts here. Until Shad relieves Baalke of his duties and gets a legit GM who can Draft and is good with contracts, the Jags are going to suffer because of Baalke staying.
    The majority of FAs don't want to come to Jacksonville because of Baalke and Shad. The ones that do are getting overpaid by the Jags to come there. Their extensions are normally over market value as well for players who don't fit the bill for the amount being given to them. The fans hate Baalke and think of Shad as a clown...openly saying so and constantly using Clown emojiis on Social Media when talking about Shad. Baalke doesn't even get clown faces, the man only gets negative statements from people. (Deservingly so.)

  • @Duuuval23
    @Duuuval23 10 днів тому +2

    Anyone who tries to place blame at Trevor’s feet, needs to do some research and watch actual tape. Quit stat watching and thinking that tells the full story.

  • @Jaxboy86
    @Jaxboy86 11 днів тому +4

    With adj EPA Trevor was a top 3 QB last yr. If he got half the EPA back from dropped passes or blown assignments or poor blocks hes essily top 5 in the league. Its not Trevor. Its not the coaches. Its execution.

    • @AlexRoth-vd1js
      @AlexRoth-vd1js 11 днів тому

      Wrong the top 2 guys on epa had great seasons so why did Trevor suck ?

    • @Jaxboy86
      @Jaxboy86 11 днів тому

      @@AlexRoth-vd1js adj epa

    • @isaiah904s
      @isaiah904s 11 днів тому +1

      ​@@AlexRoth-vd1js concussion, high ankle sprain, hurt rotator cuff bad o line bad receiving core bad defense now name a qb who has over came all that and won a superbowl?

    • @AlexRoth-vd1js
      @AlexRoth-vd1js 11 днів тому

      @@isaiah904s he played every game so no and millions of qb win games injured

    • @AlexRoth-vd1js
      @AlexRoth-vd1js 11 днів тому

      @@isaiah904s rusher Kirk and engram are pro bowl caliber players so no

  • @lastpme
    @lastpme 11 днів тому +2

    That is crazy. The quarterback was injured last season. Continuity is also critical with developing a quarterback vs having to learn a new system.

    • @Jaxboy86
      @Jaxboy86 11 днів тому +1

      Plus given his adj EPA. Trevor was top 3 if he got all of his TDs caught, assignments ran properly, line blocking solid. If the team around him committed half the mistakes less Trevor is a top 5 QB easy. But noone is talking about that.

    • @AlexRoth-vd1js
      @AlexRoth-vd1js 11 днів тому

      @@Jaxboy86you said top 3 the 2 guys ahead of him had great seasons kawrence sucked not sure what your trying to prove

  • @ethanmercado4105
    @ethanmercado4105 11 днів тому +1

    Baalke built the roster

  • @Biz613
    @Biz613 10 днів тому +1

    Brady and Mahomes are completely obsessed with football. Trevor isn’t.

    • @Duuuval23
      @Duuuval23 10 днів тому

      Damn, when did you get an inside look into Trevor’s life? 😂😂. You sound ignorant.

  • @flyguy7825
    @flyguy7825 12 днів тому +8

    The jaguars are a mess. They can’t build anything because they make stupid moves like fire a coach every three or four years.

    • @CoolWeather28
      @CoolWeather28 11 днів тому +1

      They're a mess? You're living in the past. Back to back winning seasons...

    • @leevancleef358
      @leevancleef358 11 днів тому

      Jags WERE a mess up until 2 years ago...Since then 9-8 last 2 years with Playoff win...

    • @flyguy7825
      @flyguy7825 10 днів тому

      @@CoolWeather28 did they go to the playoffs last year yes or no?

    • @flyguy7825
      @flyguy7825 10 днів тому

      @@leevancleef358 did they go to the playoffs last year yes or no did they not collapse during the second half of the season only winning two games down the line yes or no?

    • @Duuuval23
      @Duuuval23 10 днів тому

      Go do your research. The Jags have a history of holding onto coaches too long. You make zero sense.

  • @Mr.Potato420
    @Mr.Potato420 11 днів тому +2

    give tlaw a good oline and hes going to afc champ. Not even great just good.

    • @AlexRoth-vd1js
      @AlexRoth-vd1js 11 днів тому

      Gardner minshew has better stats with much worse team stop

    • @AlexRoth-vd1js
      @AlexRoth-vd1js 11 днів тому

      Joe burrow made super bowl with much worse oline

    • @isaiah904s
      @isaiah904s 11 днів тому

      ​@@AlexRoth-vd1js who was burrow wr?

    • @AlexRoth-vd1js
      @AlexRoth-vd1js 11 днів тому

      @@isaiah904sRidley > higgens and chase is better than Kirk but they also have a top 5 tight end engram so it’s pretty Similiar

  • @debbierush2965
    @debbierush2965 11 днів тому

    The Eagles' front office is dysfunctional. It wasn't Doug.

  • @Duuuval23
    @Duuuval23 10 днів тому +1

    He is nowhere the hot seat lol. People need to stop with this bullshit narrative.

  • @henrywallacesghost5883
    @henrywallacesghost5883 11 днів тому

    Is knowing you're leaving Jacksonville a bad thing?😂

  • @rudedog1347
    @rudedog1347 11 днів тому

    Yeah bring Bill and his 24 yr old girlfriend in that will make the team look great and Super Bowl bound 😂😂😂

  • @Jacobeup22
    @Jacobeup22 12 днів тому +4

    Kahn is just saying the whole organization needs to do better Doug Peterson is not on the hot seat if anything Trent balke is on the hot seat

    • @night_wolf6621
      @night_wolf6621 12 днів тому +3

      Never underestimate an incompetent owner

    • @Jacobeup22
      @Jacobeup22 12 днів тому +1

      @@night_wolf6621 he probably meant the whole organization needs to do better it’s the media who thinks Doug is on the hot seat players love to play for him and Kahn is a very patient owner Doug is entering his third year with the team the chances of him getting fired is slim to none you might have a case for the gm to get fired

    • @night_wolf6621
      @night_wolf6621 12 днів тому

      @@Jacobeup22 We’ve seen countless times an owner fire a good Head coach to hire an idiot. The most recent one is the Raiders when Mark Davis fired Bisaccia to hire McDaniels. Dysfunctional teams do dysfunctional things

    • @Jacobeup22
      @Jacobeup22 12 днів тому

      @@night_wolf6621 totally different owner Kahn has been more patient than the raiders owner

    • @night_wolf6621
      @night_wolf6621 12 днів тому +2

      @@Jacobeup22 Kahn was literally the owner that thought hiring Urban Meyer was a good idea 😂 dysfunctional team will do dysfunctional things

  • @IamJdTrent
    @IamJdTrent 12 днів тому +11

    Getting fired would be a blessing for Doug. Maybe he could go coach a team that isn't historically a dumpster fire.

    • @twaynemoney6428
      @twaynemoney6428 11 днів тому +4

      Yo momma

    • @CoolWeather28
      @CoolWeather28 11 днів тому +2

      Your thoughts about the team are a dumpster fire.

    • @IamJdTrent
      @IamJdTrent 11 днів тому

      @@CoolWeather28 I grew up in Tennessee so trust me,it's not like my teams have much more to brag about 😆.

    • @yodabbadabba3770
      @yodabbadabba3770 11 днів тому

      Press Taylor has put Doug on the hot seat in Jax and Philly. Would you say Philly is a dumpster fire organization too? Dudes just loyal to a fault with this Press bozo 🤡

    • @CoolWeather28
      @CoolWeather28 11 днів тому

      @@IamJdTrent I gotcha, but the "dumpster fire" days of the Jaguars are over as long as T. Lawrence is the QB.

  • @bronsonbamnallen1633
    @bronsonbamnallen1633 12 днів тому

    Shad Khan is an inept owner with a track record of failure. Doug Pederson has a Super Bowl ring. I know Khan writes the checks so that makes him the man with the power, but he should really shut up and let the coach do his job.

    • @Jaxboy86
      @Jaxboy86 11 днів тому

      Wouldn't say inept. Learning would be a better word. He is patient with coaches and GMs. He will give them a fair chance.

    • @Jaxboy86
      @Jaxboy86 11 днів тому +1

      But to say he should shut up. He's very hands off. He doesn't get in the way of the coaching or the GM. He can have his opinions. But he keeps them to himself. He has never gotten out of his lane unless he absolutely had to (Urban Myer).

  • @leevancleef358
    @leevancleef358 11 днів тому

    This is some STUPID commentary...Trevor Lawrence is NOT a Top 5 qb in league because....he is NOT that good...I am a Jags fan...i WANT him to be great...but he is NOT great...he is "above average"...to at times "Good"...that whole "generational talent" thing was some overrated BS...dude has 60 turnovers in 3 years...AWFUL...is that the Head Coach's fault? cmon man...

    • @isaiah904s
      @isaiah904s 11 днів тому

      Let's name the qbs who had more in their first 3 years Peyton manning Tom Brady imagine if the colts moved on from Peyton cause a lil nobody in the comments said so😂😂😂😂😂 clown 🤡

    • @leevancleef358
      @leevancleef358 11 днів тому

      @@isaiah904s who said "move on?"...I just said he's not great...but if I hurt your feelings...I apologize...man these Trevor fanboys are really sensitive

    • @AlexRoth-vd1js
      @AlexRoth-vd1js 11 днів тому

      @@isaiah904s Payton manning had 100 more touchdowns and a 109 qb rating year 3 big big difference

    • @AlexRoth-vd1js
      @AlexRoth-vd1js 11 днів тому

      Trevor Lawrence has no talent

    • @isaiah904s
      @isaiah904s 11 днів тому

      ​@@leevancleef358 nope I'm just not an ingrate jag fan who actually understands what happened last year this is literally the worst franchise in the league and he didn't pull a Eli when drafted here put trevor on 49ers and I bet you he wins the superbowl your franchise is the loser not him trevor rarely lost till he put on a jags uniform