Love this video Lisa! I can't stand the narrative that we "must" use so-called "dark" decks to read for shadow work. We must always start where we, or our querent, are, what our emotional state is in that moment. We don't ever talk about re-traumatization that can happen through using difficult, confronting or otherwise triggering imagery. Saying that it's not "real" shadow work unless there's something scary on the cards is utter nonsense and can end up being harmful. It can also keep us from getting the help, insights and loving support we may desperately need in that moment. If you think about the process of therapy or any kind of healing, you never go for the deepest wound first. It's important to start at the edges and build that inner strength and tolerance before moving closer to the deepest wounding. Start where you are, pick a deck that fits that place, and move slowly and gently. Also very important to say that insights are valuable, but the integration process and the self-care that must accompany it are just as important.
I could not agree more. my friend love shadowscapes for shadow work becuase she needs that softness. where as I prefer wild unknown for shadow work becuase I like the simple rawness. everyone's choices are valid because this work is so personal and we need the messages delivered in the best way we will accept them
I purposefully use bright and colorful decks for shadow work like Playful Heart or Monstarot. If I’m going to hear something pokey or triggering, I at least want to hear it from something soft and gentle.
I am at a point where I am comfortable with simple card meanings, but reading is sometimes still difficult. seeing and hearing your readings really helps a ton! thank you so much for making this series (for free!!!) i really appreciate that❤️
That is such a good point that you don't have to use dark/intense decks for shadow work! I think that sometimes, using a cute/happy deck helps you tackle daunting topics easier. The flip side, is sometimes when you are being really ridiculous about your own stuff, having a dark/heavy deck to read with highlights how silly/over-dramatic you are being and helps you see that.
Lisa, I re-watch this series so often. The way you teach is just so cool. Total goals to have half your knowledge by the time I pop my clogs!! Thank you for always working so hard to share with us xXx
the cards in the first reading blew me away! In the Lovers card the 2 figures from card 1 and 2 basically show up together now. They have both entered the 3rd card. It's exactly the blue and white skinned figures from the first two cards and now they are offering each other the cups. Spooky and amazing!
I'm so glad I came across this series as someone who is a "baby" tarot reader these videos are very helpful. I'm always looking for new things to learn or implement to better myself.
So, so helpful. I’ve been really enjoying this series as hearing how you actively interpret the whole reading is so insightful, and so accessible. Thank you so much! I love the idea of using such a cute deck for shadow work to negate some of the fear, and I’d never really ‘got’ affirmation cards until seeing how you work with them. So helpful, thank you!
It’s interesting that you bring up the difficulty of doing a “fake” reading. I do practice readings off and on and have a question in mind (or intention, like shadow work). I send that question or intention out into the universe while shuffling and read for a “real”person out there who may need it. Maybe the outcome of the reading comes to them as an inspiration for change or the next good step. The readings seem to hold together and have too much meaning not to apply to someone in the world.
I have always found it easier to do shadow work with a non-confrontational deck. My preferred shadow work deck is the Silhouettes Tarot, and I discovered the Mystical Moments Tarot is also great for it. For me personally, doing confrontational work with a confrontational deck is too much ;-)
I know these are just example readings but i really felt like the Jessica reading was for me. Thank you so much Lisa 🥰 love this type of videos helping us read for our selfs. ❤️
Recently found your channel through Kyra, newish to Tarot and I'm finding your videos so helpful! I've been wondering why my "power" deck is so intimidating lately. It went from "you're a badass, you are powerful" to showing me all the darkest insecurities and fears. Suddenly I'm hiding from it and its because it is very confronting and I'm not feeling up to that level of challenge.
I just loved this! I've been wanting to explore shadow work for a long time, but never knew how to start. You made this totally achievable, and I thank you. Also, I often find "dark" decks to be uncooperative with me, so I was so happy to see you use other deck types in this demo.
I may actually need to get the Deviant Moon at some point. (Grumble, grumble). My current "darker" deck is Legacy of the Divine because of the story in the guidebook.
Thank you so much for this series Lisa! My ability to read tarot for myself beyond one card daily draws has grown immeasurably thanks to this series and I now feel comfortable with 3 and 4 card spreads. I really appreciate your teaching and I especially enjoyed this video on shadow work. thank you also for mentioning that there can be good in the shadow as well; I think that a lot of teachers neglect to mention that. Many many thanks!
That is AMAZING to hear! I'm so glad you're finding this series helpful! :) Yessss shadow work is multi-faceted. I cover the topic and all three areas of shadow (neutral, 'negative', 'positive') in my book also. We sometimes forget that we have hidden superpowers too!!
My name is Lisa, Jeremiah, and Jessica. Who knew that your lesson was meant for me! Just a Tarot newbie but love your training, Lisa - and totally aspire to read with knowledge and confidence some day! 🙏🏻🙏🏻
Thanks Lisa. Was never sure how to do this. I just pulled three cards from the DM…and whoa, slapped me in the face! Ive always love the Deviant Moon and found the reading from this deck brings me to tears more than any other deck ive used. Thanks
I enjoy these so much; I especially loved seeing the Affirmation add-on at the end of each spread. It's really useful seeing multiple readings with the same spread like this, and I think the imaginary querents work really well! I'd love to see more of your favorite spreads in action, such as the "how's my heart" (center cross from celtic cross) or other go-to spreads.
Ope that Debiant Moon is a call out deck, isn't it? Thank you for sharing your own reading. It was powerful. When I do fake readings to practice, I find a "read" for characters in books, tv series or movies is helpful as I can relate it back to something I know that isnt a real person but still has energy (a persona created by a real person). Do you have any tips for practice readings? Because yep, fake querents are hard and for me, often read coldly. (Yours did not btw). Wanting more practice and looking for more ideas beyond characters and reading for myself. This is a fabulous spread! Thank you for this video!
Have you ever thought of using the Thoth deck for shadow work? This was a great video! I'm not ready for the deviant moon tarot but I have the kawaii tarot in my Amazon cart as of now!
i like this spread. I'm not someone who owns "dark" artwork decks. But I can see where I tend to use decks with more "intense" guidebooks. Watching you use a "cute" deck for this was interesting and really helpful. You've got me looking twice at that Affirmators deck... another Oracle deck is not what I need! Ha Thank you for the dedication you put into your videos.🌟
This is so incredibly helpful! This seems like such a gentle version of Shadow Work, or Intro to Shadow Work. I gave this spread a try as I watched the video and my reading resonated so much! I used my Happy Tarot and it didn't feel too overwhelming. I also pulled an Affirmators card because it's one of my favorites. Thank you for helping me to begin to explore Shadow Work in a way that feels simple and doable but still has lots of depth. 💖 Looking forward to giving it a try with my Deviant Moon!
I am a fan of these series! love it! thank you so much! are you planning on doing a walkthrough of the affirmators deluxe?? I really dont know if I want to buy it or not, and havent seen any reviews yet
I think you might have finally convinced me to give the Deviant Moon a try lollll. I didn’t think I’d ever use it to read with, but it worked soooooo well to pull out the shadow meanings in your example reading. And I didn’t know Affirmators had come out with a deluxe deck! Very exciting. Also, this is such a powerful little spread!
This was very interesting and helpful! Gave me something to think about…..hadn’t thought about shadow work in quite this way before…..far more gentle than some I’ve looked at.
Thank you so much Lisa!!! What a wonderful channel for soul growth in general, and specifically for people like me who still struggle with interpretation of a combination of cards in terms of coming up with a consistent storyline / the big picture! Which you explain and teach really wonderfully! Many thanks and God bless ♥️
Thank you so much for continuing this series as it is really helpful and expands my view on how to use the tarot. In regard to this particular spread I am not too sure about how to interpret the first card. I feel like if I get the first interpretation wrong, the whole reading goes down the drain. So here are my thoughts: The Hermit is someone who tries to reflect on their situation alone. Could the shadow here be that someone is not capable of being alone, because they always need attention? The Fool is someone who is carefree and optimistic. Could the shadow be that someone takes too many risks without thinking about consequences? And lastly, the King Of Wands is someone who is a natural leader. Could the shadow here be that someone is too bossy and doesn’t take care of other people‘s feelings? Maybe you can clarify how you came up with your interpretations of these cards, that would be super helpful. Thank you so much!
I agree... you do need to pin down the first card to be able to get useful information out of the following cards. The reason the first card is difficult is that's the thing in your shadow you're trying to identify - the reason it's in the shadow is that it's hard for you to identify it. Definitely not pretending it's easy! :) The key to interpreting the first card (IMO) is to be as self-aware as possible. The Hermit can relate to a lot of different things that lurk in the shadow - in a more negative shadow, the hermit could relate to avoidance of others, hiding, escapism, lack of insight about self, lack of self-awareness, avoiding deeper internal looking/learning are all themes that come to mid. Neutral things could be natural introversion or desire for 'alone time' that is not being acknowledged, perhaps due to people pleasing tendencies or fear of letting others down or appearing selfish if you focus on yourself. Positive things hiding in shadow could be learning/knowledge that you don't give yourself credit for or not acknowledging the work... these are just a few examples. In general, my advice is to spend some time contemplating that first card and what it could represent *for you* as something that is difficult for you to admit/acknowledge and then go from there! :)
@@Lisa_Papez Thank you so much for your comprehensive answer, Lisa! I understand that the first step is to be aware of what the particular card means to yourself and to go from there. I just thought that if you do a reading for another person, it is hard to spot their shadow correctly, but I guess you need to talk to them and try to figure out together what the card means exactly.
If I were doing this reading for another than I'd trust what comes to me intuitively re the shadow of the 1st card .. but that is harder to quantify as it's more an energetic interpretation in that scenario. 💖
Thanks for this. Hear about ‘shadow work’ a lot, like your three card spread. I’m not in a place to do this yet. Interesting. Love that affimators deck!
Helloooo Peggy! Hi, Lisa! Thank you soooooo much for this video, Lisa! This was so, so, so needed! I would love it if you can make like a beginner, intermediate and advanced versions of this video! I love you! Thank you! Take care, Lisa! Lots of love to Peggy! ❤️
Hello! Thanks for making this series and the tarot with training wheels series, I’ve been silently following along and I think this was the best episode yet!! My request is that you use the sasuraibito deck if you still have it. I’d love to see that deck more! I’m looking forward to the how to read reversals episode :)
Oh wow, Lisa! When you were thinking of a name for the second querent, ‘Jessica’ popped into my mind! And my jaw hit the floor when you said It! This was a great video as I wondered what shadow work was 😃
I love your videos so much! I was struggling to get started with including tarot into shadow work and I thought I was doing something wrong because it felt to gentle. This also reminds me of that it’s ok for it to not always smack you up the head. ☺️🥰
Love this type of content from you, it's so helpful to see how you do things, to hear some of your thought process. I also really appreciate you making such a great point about being able to use any kind of tarot deck for this type of reading. :)
Oh this is so informative, was very easy and fun to follow. I have trouble sometimes telling the story between the cards so this video helped me quite a bit. Would love to see more of these types of video. Thank you Lisa, always look forward to all of your videos. :)
Love this video Lisa! I can't stand the narrative that we "must" use so-called "dark" decks to read for shadow work. We must always start where we, or our querent, are, what our emotional state is in that moment. We don't ever talk about re-traumatization that can happen through using difficult, confronting or otherwise triggering imagery. Saying that it's not "real" shadow work unless there's something scary on the cards is utter nonsense and can end up being harmful. It can also keep us from getting the help, insights and loving support we may desperately need in that moment. If you think about the process of therapy or any kind of healing, you never go for the deepest wound first. It's important to start at the edges and build that inner strength and tolerance before moving closer to the deepest wounding. Start where you are, pick a deck that fits that place, and move slowly and gently. Also very important to say that insights are valuable, but the integration process and the self-care that must accompany it are just as important.
I could not agree more. my friend love shadowscapes for shadow work becuase she needs that softness. where as I prefer wild unknown for shadow work becuase I like the simple rawness. everyone's choices are valid because this work is so personal and we need the messages delivered in the best way we will accept them
I purposefully use bright and colorful decks for shadow work like Playful Heart or Monstarot. If I’m going to hear something pokey or triggering, I at least want to hear it from something soft and gentle.
One of the reasons I love my Shadowland tarot. Guidebook has some great shadow work prompts/questions, and it's full of monsters, but so darn cute.
I am at a point where I am comfortable with simple card meanings, but reading is sometimes still difficult. seeing and hearing your readings really helps a ton!
thank you so much for making this series (for free!!!) i really appreciate that❤️
That was such an excellent example of using dark, neutral and happy decks for shadow work.
Would love to see a reading with the Wyspell Cat Tarot deck. Love your content. I’m learning so much from you🦄 🌟🫶🏻
That is such a good point that you don't have to use dark/intense decks for shadow work! I think that sometimes, using a cute/happy deck helps you tackle daunting topics easier.
The flip side, is sometimes when you are being really ridiculous about your own stuff, having a dark/heavy deck to read with highlights how silly/over-dramatic you are being and helps you see that.
Definitely we don’t need to see dark imagery for doing shadow work.
Lisa, I re-watch this series so often. The way you teach is just so cool. Total goals to have half your knowledge by the time I pop my clogs!! Thank you for always working so hard to share with us xXx
the cards in the first reading blew me away! In the Lovers card the 2 figures from card 1 and 2 basically show up together now. They have both entered the 3rd card. It's exactly the blue and white skinned figures from the first two cards and now they are offering each other the cups. Spooky and amazing!
I'm so glad I came across this series as someone who is a "baby" tarot reader these videos are very helpful. I'm always looking for new things to learn or implement to better myself.
That's great feedback - really glad they're helping!!
Love this simple yet powerful in depth shadowork spread You're AWESOME!!!
So, so helpful. I’ve been really enjoying this series as hearing how you actively interpret the whole reading is so insightful, and so accessible. Thank you so much! I love the idea of using such a cute deck for shadow work to negate some of the fear, and I’d never really ‘got’ affirmation cards until seeing how you work with them. So helpful, thank you!
It’s interesting that you bring up the difficulty of doing a “fake” reading. I do practice readings off and on and have a question in mind (or intention, like shadow work). I send that question or intention out into the universe while shuffling and read for a “real”person out there who may need it. Maybe the outcome of the reading comes to them as an inspiration for change or the next good step. The readings seem to hold together and have too much meaning not to apply to someone in the world.
Such a practical video. You made shadow work seem much more doable. I love this series. Thank you for sharing your knowledge and experience.
I have always found it easier to do shadow work with a non-confrontational deck. My preferred shadow work deck is the Silhouettes Tarot, and I discovered the Mystical Moments Tarot is also great for it. For me personally, doing confrontational work with a confrontational deck is too much ;-)
great great video! we want more!
I know these are just example readings but i really felt like the Jessica reading was for me. Thank you so much Lisa 🥰 love this type of videos helping us read for our selfs. ❤️
Recently found your channel through Kyra, newish to Tarot and I'm finding your videos so helpful! I've been wondering why my "power" deck is so intimidating lately. It went from "you're a badass, you are powerful" to showing me all the darkest insecurities and fears. Suddenly I'm hiding from it and its because it is very confronting and I'm not feeling up to that level of challenge.
This is amazing! You are such a wonderful reader and teacher! Thank you so much beautiful lady. 💖
It's helpful to see different decks.
I just loved this! I've been wanting to explore shadow work for a long time, but never knew how to start. You made this totally achievable, and I thank you. Also, I often find "dark" decks to be uncooperative with me, so I was so happy to see you use other deck types in this demo.
awesome first spread example thank you. 😊 I love these tarot lessons. please keep them going, so we can strengthen our gifts
I may actually need to get the Deviant Moon at some point. (Grumble, grumble). My current "darker" deck is Legacy of the Divine because of the story in the guidebook.
I just love this series!!!! please do more of these:) they are so helpful.
I always love and learn from you reading cards.
I wasn't entirely sure what shadow work was, but it seems like it's something I routinely do already.
Very helpful, thank you Lisa
This video made me order your book. I am afraid of shadow work but with a good teacher like you, I think I can handle it.
Very informative Lisa! ❤ I think I need the affirmators deck.
Trying it right now!!
Thank you so much for this series Lisa! My ability to read tarot for myself beyond one card daily draws has grown immeasurably thanks to this series and I now feel comfortable with 3 and 4 card spreads. I really appreciate your teaching and I especially enjoyed this video on shadow work. thank you also for mentioning that there can be good in the shadow as well; I think that a lot of teachers neglect to mention that. Many many thanks!
That is AMAZING to hear! I'm so glad you're finding this series helpful! :) Yessss shadow work is multi-faceted. I cover the topic and all three areas of shadow (neutral, 'negative', 'positive') in my book also. We sometimes forget that we have hidden superpowers too!!
My name is Lisa, Jeremiah, and Jessica. Who knew that your lesson was meant for me! Just a Tarot newbie but love your training, Lisa - and totally aspire to read with knowledge and confidence some day! 🙏🏻🙏🏻
Couldn’t stop thinking about bullfrogs in that second reading! 😂 Thanks for this series, Lisa! They are so helpful!
This was so good, thank you 🙏🌻
Thanks Lisa. Was never sure how to do this. I just pulled three cards from the DM…and whoa, slapped me in the face! Ive always love the Deviant Moon and found the reading from this deck brings me to tears more than any other deck ive used. Thanks
You are so welcome
I enjoy these so much; I especially loved seeing the Affirmation add-on at the end of each spread. It's really useful seeing multiple readings with the same spread like this, and I think the imaginary querents work really well! I'd love to see more of your favorite spreads in action, such as the "how's my heart" (center cross from celtic cross) or other go-to spreads.
Ope that Debiant Moon is a call out deck, isn't it? Thank you for sharing your own reading. It was powerful. When I do fake readings to practice, I find a "read" for characters in books, tv series or movies is helpful as I can relate it back to something I know that isnt a real person but still has energy (a persona created by a real person). Do you have any tips for practice readings? Because yep, fake querents are hard and for me, often read coldly. (Yours did not btw). Wanting more practice and looking for more ideas beyond characters and reading for myself.
This is a fabulous spread! Thank you for this video!
Have you ever thought of using the Thoth deck for shadow work? This was a great video! I'm not ready for the deviant moon tarot but I have the kawaii tarot in my Amazon cart as of now!
i like this spread. I'm not someone who owns "dark" artwork decks. But I can see where I tend to use decks with more "intense" guidebooks. Watching you use a "cute" deck for this was interesting and really helpful. You've got me looking twice at that Affirmators deck... another Oracle deck is not what I need! Ha Thank you for the dedication you put into your videos.🌟
This is so incredibly helpful! This seems like such a gentle version of Shadow Work, or Intro to Shadow Work. I gave this spread a try as I watched the video and my reading resonated so much! I used my Happy Tarot and it didn't feel too overwhelming. I also pulled an Affirmators card because it's one of my favorites. Thank you for helping me to begin to explore Shadow Work in a way that feels simple and doable but still has lots of depth. 💖 Looking forward to giving it a try with my Deviant Moon!
Glad it was helpful!
I learn so much watching how you connect the cards into a coherent reading that makes sense. Love these videos.
I am a fan of these series! love it! thank you so much! are you planning on doing a walkthrough of the affirmators deluxe?? I really dont know if I want to buy it or not, and havent seen any reviews yet
I think you might have finally convinced me to give the Deviant Moon a try lollll. I didn’t think I’d ever use it to read with, but it worked soooooo well to pull out the shadow meanings in your example reading. And I didn’t know Affirmators had come out with a deluxe deck! Very exciting. Also, this is such a powerful little spread!
This was very interesting and helpful! Gave me something to think about…..hadn’t thought about shadow work in quite this way before…..far more gentle than some I’ve looked at.
Hello Lisa, are you going to do a comparison or review of the affirmators deluxe deck?
Thank you so much Lisa!!! What a wonderful channel for soul growth in general, and specifically for people like me who still struggle with interpretation of a combination of cards in terms of coming up with a consistent storyline / the big picture!
Which you explain and teach really wonderfully! Many thanks and God bless ♥️
Hello !
If it’s something that is part of your practice, could you please do a dream work vidéo one day ? 🌕🌙
21:00 subjects.
Thank you so much for continuing this series as it is really helpful and expands my view on how to use the tarot.
In regard to this particular spread I am not too sure about how to interpret the first card. I feel like if I get the first interpretation wrong, the whole reading goes down the drain. So here are my thoughts:
The Hermit is someone who tries to reflect on their situation alone. Could the shadow here be that someone is not capable of being alone, because they always need attention?
The Fool is someone who is carefree and optimistic. Could the shadow be that someone takes too many risks without thinking about consequences?
And lastly, the King Of Wands is someone who is a natural leader. Could the shadow here be that someone is too bossy and doesn’t take care of other people‘s feelings?
Maybe you can clarify how you came up with your interpretations of these cards, that would be super helpful. Thank you so much!
I agree... you do need to pin down the first card to be able to get useful information out of the following cards. The reason the first card is difficult is that's the thing in your shadow you're trying to identify - the reason it's in the shadow is that it's hard for you to identify it. Definitely not pretending it's easy! :)
The key to interpreting the first card (IMO) is to be as self-aware as possible. The Hermit can relate to a lot of different things that lurk in the shadow - in a more negative shadow, the hermit could relate to avoidance of others, hiding, escapism, lack of insight about self, lack of self-awareness, avoiding deeper internal looking/learning are all themes that come to mid. Neutral things could be natural introversion or desire for 'alone time' that is not being acknowledged, perhaps due to people pleasing tendencies or fear of letting others down or appearing selfish if you focus on yourself. Positive things hiding in shadow could be learning/knowledge that you don't give yourself credit for or not acknowledging the work... these are just a few examples.
In general, my advice is to spend some time contemplating that first card and what it could represent *for you* as something that is difficult for you to admit/acknowledge and then go from there! :)
@@Lisa_Papez Thank you so much for your comprehensive answer, Lisa!
I understand that the first step is to be aware of what the particular card means to yourself and to go from there.
I just thought that if you do a reading for another person, it is hard to spot their shadow correctly, but I guess you need to talk to them and try to figure out together what the card means exactly.
If I were doing this reading for another than I'd trust what comes to me intuitively re the shadow of the 1st card .. but that is harder to quantify as it's more an energetic interpretation in that scenario. 💖
I'm so enjoying this series. Thanks so much for continuing to create such interesting and educational content!
Thanks for this. Hear about ‘shadow work’ a lot, like your three card spread. I’m not in a place to do this yet. Interesting. Love that affimators deck!
That's so cool!! I'm glad you are able to recognize that you're not up for this sort of thing - that's some kick-ass self-awareness, right there! :)
Its me... I'm Jessica 😎
Helloooo Peggy! Hi, Lisa! Thank you soooooo much for this video, Lisa! This was so, so, so needed! I would love it if you can make like a beginner, intermediate and advanced versions of this video! I love you! Thank you! Take care, Lisa! Lots of love to Peggy! ❤️
Hello! Thanks for making this series and the tarot with training wheels series, I’ve been silently following along and I think this was the best episode yet!! My request is that you use the sasuraibito deck if you still have it. I’d love to see that deck more! I’m looking forward to the how to read reversals episode :)
Yay! This is wonderful
Thanks Lisa
Excellent. Can one work just with oracle cards for shadow work?
Oh wow, Lisa! When you were thinking of a name for the second querent, ‘Jessica’ popped into my mind! And my jaw hit the floor when you said It! This was a great video as I wondered what shadow work was 😃
Oh that's so cool! :D :) I'm glad this was helpful, too!
Same!
I was about to comment the same! And English it’s not my native language… that’s so cool
I love your videos so much! I was struggling to get started with including tarot into shadow work and I thought I was doing something wrong because it felt to gentle. This also reminds me of that it’s ok for it to not always smack you up the head. ☺️🥰
Love this type of content from you, it's so helpful to see how you do things, to hear some of your thought process. I also really appreciate you making such a great point about being able to use any kind of tarot deck for this type of reading. :)
Oh this is so informative, was very easy and fun to follow. I have trouble sometimes telling the story between the cards so this video helped me quite a bit. Would love to see more of these types of video. Thank you Lisa, always look forward to all of your videos. :)
Who else feels like all these readings were for them? I know they were for faux people but they all spoke to me. Is it just me?
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Great series! Lots here even for seasoned people.
I love this. Thanks for the awesome series!
My pleasure!!
This is great. Really helpful.