Do You NEED a GTN 750 over the GTN 650? Eight Things to Consider Before Deciding.
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- Опубліковано 2 сер 2024
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In no way do we have any issues with the GTN 750Xi - it's a great unit, and very practical for many applications. The purpose of this video is to show why it may not necessarily be the best choice for all installations, and to demonstrate how capable the 650Xi really is when coupled with the G3X.
Here, we take a look at the things you should consider before purchasing a GTN 750. Take a look at the eight reasons why you may not need it before you make a decision.
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I’ve been using both the older GTN 650 & GTN 750. Yes the GTN 750 is nice because if you don’t have a G3 X it gives you some extra real estate for your map. When I use the GTN 650 I use it on the default NAV page, where as I don’t need a map, I use that on my iPad following along with ForeFlight. This is true with some of the aircraft still have 90% steam gauges.
Once again, another video with your narration/explanation building my understanding of avionics. Thanks!
Another fantastic video…thanks guys
Great video.Thanks.
Thanks guys....great video and demo. Cheers
We aim to please. Thanks so much for watching, Warwick.
Thank you very much. Awesome video and very helpful!
Thank you.. .Very good video!
Thats a great video, thank you. Im in the process now of updating a 76 182 with a new panel. I was going 750 with a G3X but will now revisit the 650 and adding another G3X on the passenger side. Good stuff!
You guys are so helpful. Hopefully I can buy some of my gear from you
Hi George, we totally missed this comment. It’s tough to see them all. I’m sure we are too late now but thank you for considering us.
Nice presentation. Could you please do a comparison between the GTN 650Xi & GTX45R combo V/S GNX375 & GNC 255 combo. Thanks
Another outstanding video guys!
Question: When space is limited and budget is of concern, what's wrong with tossing the right hand G3X and installing the 650, as Sling Academy uses in their Sling 2 trainers? Backup is G5. Mission is experimental IMC training.
Thanks for watching Judge Earl, Nothing at all wrong with that, the point was that instead of paying extra for a GTN 750 why not put it into a second screen, but if on a tighter budget by all means a 650 and one screen.
Thank you guys, great presentation. Both are great boxes, the bad thing is the price.
No kidding! My King KNS80 went belly up a while back, and I wanted to upgrade to a 650 or 750xi. The cost was insane and I still needed to make other upgrades to get the most out of them. To get GPS steering, at least a G5 HSI. But, all I could do is use the lateral navigation of the systems. To get vertical guidance, I would need a new auto pilot!!! I finally bought a used KNS80 for $500 and gave it up. Now with 3rd world fuel prices, I think I did the right thing. (Thanks Brandon!)
Thanks for that informative video. I have a GTN 650 and 2 Dynon Skyview 10 inch displays in my RV-10. I know Garmin will not allow data entry from the Skyview to the GTN, but should I be able to project Safe Taxi onto the Skyview display?
Greetings. Can IFR charts such as Jeppson be down loaded to 750 GTNXI ? Also, what panel would you recommend, let's say for a Beech 1984 A36? To cut down on the work load in IMC approach conditions ? That would be most efficient? Thank you.
Great video thank you. What is necessary to get the iPad to talk to the panel? Is the Connext capability built into the com or G3X or do you need some sort of external device??
Hi Michael, the Connext is built into the G3X.
I'm getting a tone that sounds like someone plucking a guitar string. Can't tell if it is the GTN 750 or the GTX345. I can't correlate it to anything happening inflight either other than only inflight. I pulled the breaker on the GTN750 and the sound didn't occur while it was pulled. I got a transponder failure message also. Putting the CB back in, I had a Comm needs repair message.
I don’t know about the new 650s but the older 650s require the Flight Stream 510 to connect to your iPad (I think I paid around $1500 back then to have it added). I have dual 650s in my aircraft and the Flight Stream makes them awesome! I considered the 750 but everything is so much easier as far as flight planning on the iPad. The Flight Stream 510 is a must! Thanks for the video guys.
Both 650 and 750 new and old need a Flightstream when used alone. When coupled with a G3X, neither of them need it unless you want the update concierge.
@@MidwestPanels dumb question, are they work with ForeFlight? I mean data transfer back and forth
@@YamahaDigital Flight plan transfer will work with Forelight and Garmin Pilot.
I always file direct destination. If I have to fly around Class B it's usually a 2nd waypoint that I have to manually enter. $1500 for the Flightstream is so ridiculous. It's less than $10 to make.
Someone had asked us a question on this comment but dissappeared. The question was, does a G500TXi need Flightstream to connect to Firelight and the answer is yes it does, it's the Flightstream 510.
Do you work on Certified like a C182P as well? Was looking for quote on G3X Touch, GTN 650 or GTX 375, Garmin A/P.
WHAT ABOUT CESSNA150 WITH 2 G5S??
Very informative. Your point regarding the pricing difference between the 650Xi & the 750Xi is valid but, the 750Xi is just too darn sexy to turn my back on. Additionally, my aircraft has plenty of panel space to accommodate the 750Xi and; this aircraft is an investment. I always look at resell marketability & return on my investment. The Garmin 750Xi on my panel rings both bells.
Thanks for watching, the 750 is a great unit. The main point in this video is to discuss the many points that come up about the differences. For many though panel space is an issue so this is mainly for them.
You're killing me!!! I've been waffling back and forth between the two. I got a great quote on an in stock 650Xi and quick install. So, I backed out of a long wait for a 750, and maybe longer for install. My Archer has plenty of space. Is that the reason to get a 750? I'm never going to get a GX3.
@@azcharlie2009 What did you end up doing? I have a G500 and GTN 750 in my Archer and like it.
@@airops423 I never did buy either one... I bought a used KNS80 to replace my old one. The glide slope had failed 40 some years... Then the used one failed, too.... Not sure what to do right now. I might have to take out a home equity loan just to afford the needed upgrades!! At 75 years, I'm not sure how much longer I'm going to fly anyway....
@@azcharlie2009 Aw that's a shame!
Yes, with iPads being under $1,000 and very capable data entry devices, it is insane to spend $4,000 more and lose a ton of panel space when using the iPad is so easy.
Well, the iPad is not as well integrated with the aircraft
@@CreepinCreeper145 If you actually watch the video, you will know why your comment is completely irrelevant.
Could you go into item #8 - the audio control. I wasn't quite sure what you meant by the limitations on the 650 over the 750. Are you able to manage the remote audio using the G3X panel?
Yes Brian,
Yes you can control the GMA 245/245R from the G3X but not from the GTN. For those without an EFIS they can have a GMA 35C controlled from a GTN 750. There are some that believe you can only remotely control an audio panel from the GTN 750 which would only be true in an airplane that has steam gauges and was using a GMA 35C
@@MidwestPanels I figured as much and thought I’d seen it that way in others videos. I guess the way I heard it in the video that it wasn’t possible from either panel.
There’s just some amazing audio control features through the UI on either the 750 or G3x.
I'm installing a 11 inch G3-X a 7 inch G3-X, and a GTN 650. What about using a GTN-750 instead of the 2nd 7 inch G3-X and a GTN 650? Screen sizes are about the same but the 750 has the added benefit of a nav/com. Also, the cost would be about $4,000 less vs the combo. Thoughts?
We would do the 7 inch over the 750. As for the Nav/COM, you will get that with the GTN 650 anyway, if you replace the 650 and the 7 inch with a 750 the cost will be about equal so I'm not sure how you would save the $4,000 unless you found a good used deal somewhere. The 7 inch functions as an MFD better than the 750 alone, the 7 inch would also go into reversionary and act as the PFD giving you more useful information such as engine indications should the PFD fail.
I have a Garmin 430WAAS installed in my Long EZ that is integrated with a Garmin Auto Pilot. Would swapping in a GTN 650XI be complicated? Would a new tray be needed?
Have you looked into Avidyne?
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I might be jumping the gun here but you can legally use an approach plate loaded on the 750 during approaches. So if you don't want to use paper or foreflight on an ipad you can have everything you need loaded on the panel. This is a big deal for me personally.
I have the approach plates loaded on my G500 but find it more convenient to brief from the iPad as the screen resolution is better, however I do fly approaches with the plate displayed. In the final stages of approach and when taxing the plates on the screen are at their most useful as it gets rid of the cockpit clutter at times of high workload.
Could you comment on using an aera 760 on the right side of the panel rather than another G3x screen? What does the extra screen give you that an aera would not? And how much is the second G3x screen compared to the first? Thanks
The one thing you will get over the 760 by having the second screen is that you get a hard wired reversionary backup. This will give you a PFD and engine indications should the PFD fail which doesn't seem like much but if you are in actual IMC and you lose your engine indications it could be quite troublesome since use power settings to obtain speeds on an approach. Otherwise the 760 is really a good deal, especially for VFR flyers.
@@MidwestPanels Can you use a non-touch garmin screen for the backup/2nd screen, with a large gex touch on the left side? They seem cheaper than the touch versions.
@@kwittnebel Unfortunately no, the legacy system is not compatible with the current generation.
@@MidwestPanels Bummer! Thank you for this information.
used 750 is like $16K. used 650 is like 10-11K .. also big price difference
Wireless microphones with channel panning make this video kinda rough to listen to. The audio keeps moving from ear to ear. Maybe look in to adjusting some settings there.
Thank you, yes we are aware, we were not going to scrap the entire video over it.
Great video except the background noise! I gave up
The 750 cons Steve mentions is actually a con on sling tsi panel design not the 750 itself..
An issue for many experimental aircraft. Let it be known that in no way do we think the 750 is a bad unit. But when panel space is a premium as is the case for many aircraft (not all) it’s not worth hurting the integrity of the panel to fit one in. There is no added benefit other than screen size.
the 750 is too damm big. They needed an intermediate size like the 530 was. If you have to push stack avionics like the audio and transponder right, then control them via the 750, something is wrong.