The Truth About Fullmetal Alchemist's Ending
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- Опубліковано 29 жов 2024
- In this video, we discuss the TRUTH about Fullmetal Alchemist's ending, and how I would rewrite it. This video discusses the original 2003 anime, and the film following it, Conqueror of Shamballa. I also reference Brotherhood's ending at several points in the video, so preferably watch if you've seen it all/don't care about spoilers. With that all being said, enjoy the video!
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Am I the only one that's wants a sequal to alphonse going to shing and ed going west?
Same
sometimes I feel that way too but FMAb ended just right and so well, and if Hiromu Arakawa did a sequel to it I don't think she could do a better story or antagonist than that. I've watch Avatar last airbender and Avatar legend of Korra, and thought legend of Korra was underwhelming, decent but unable to do better than last airbender, I think that's how it would go if there was a sequel.
The most I would want would be an OVA epilogue of their wedding and adult life after all that. Outside of what was shown in the pictures
No ending was gold leave it at that
u're the only
The ending in the original was bittersweet and a little sad but I like it quite a bit.
but I much prefer brotherhoods ending.
I'm inclined to agree; HOWEVER if 03's was handled in the way I mentioned in the video, I maybe would've preferred it more.
MrNinjaStar yeah, the points you made about the ending including the end of conqueror of shamballa I would've loved it a little more too.
Both endings were bittersweet. The first is more bitter than sweet and the second is more sweet than bitter.
That last qoute that Ed says in the last episode will always stick with me for as long as I live.
I just which I brother hood ed keep his alchemy
2003 FMA is meant to break your heart, FMA Brotherhood is meant to heal your soul.
Brotherhood is an anime from the manga and the original anime is an alternative story to the manga.
I wish the second season happens because there was suppose to be more not just the kinda weird ending
@@ljohnston5564 they made a movie follow up to the end of fma you should look it up
Full metal alchemist brotherhood is an happy ending I think because Edward return when he transmute Al,,while in full metal alchemist Edward not return to his real world and remain to our world
True
I don’t have a problem with bittersweet ending but it’s just not meant for a series like fma. The characters deserve happiness and brotherhood did it really well
EDIT: to everyone who might read this, my comment contains spoilers and you are responsible yourself if you are watching this Video and looking through the comments.
I just watched brotherhoods last couple of episodes today and really liked the ending, but i think that Ed giving away his ability to use Alchemie is unnecessary, since Hohenheim offered to give his life to get Al's body back and he then later died by Trisha's grave. I know that it has to show the bond of the brothers and that Ed would give everything to get Alphonse's body back, but i still didnt really like how they went. Or maybe I am just pissed that my favourite Anime ended.
Conqueror of Shambala is the real conclusion.
The fact that in the 03 that Ed didn’t end up with Wenry it’s just so ugh to me
Ed probably ended up with the alternate world Winry in real world Earth.
No, I could've accepted it - after all, ships don't always work out. It's a bigger failing that it just flat out ignores it. Shambala in particular with Winry being just like "oh well I guess I still have this dog" is such a slap, like her crush and two best friends are gone acknowledge it in SOME way xD (But then there's little room in a movie.) I think the 03 creators really hoped they'd get to make a 2nd series or a series of films (but then Brotherhood anounced ended that).
Now I don't think B neccessarily does it well either, WinryxEd is ship teased but there is ZERO progress and the resolution of it is just like "oh yeah I guess I do like you and we could date, haha jk" but at least there IS an outcome even if it's an extremely childlish one.
I mean it really shows here that this plotline is aimed at kids for whom getting your crush to say they like you back is a major achievement. I kind of wish the mangaka did actually dvelve into how dating and a relationship would be like for them.
@@whade62000 - I loved FMAB but I have to disagree with your comment about "zero progress." Ed is shown denying his feelings for Winry several times when he's younger, but they both are clearly falling for each other. Winry outright admits it to herself. Ed is wildly overprotective of her. By the time they get to Briggs, Ed doesn't hold back from openly showing that he likes Winry (remember the scene with Scar, where he grabs her head). He also hides out inside her bedroom (!) before the Promised Day.
With them living together for two years with Al and Pinako, I would assume that they would have discussed their feelings for each other, although that's in the realm of fanfiction and fanart. You don't just propose to someone you don't know that well. And Ed's proposal is probably the best one I've seen in anime.
Sometimes, you can't have a "they lived happily ever after" type of ending. I feel FMA 2003 is more grim and tragic, serving as a reminder of how real life can be messed up instead of feeding us constant happiness.
But for the fans who come out of FMA 2003 feeling depressed, at least the manga/Brotherhood exists to cheer them up :)
They did bro ua-cam.com/video/6yBWWxoOckk/v-deo.html
Forever stays in my memories. Nina RIP
Also RIP Hughes.
I didn't even know there was a movie after the Original Series XD
I watched both shows and liked them both but I will totally watch the movie now
@@wopfedrawofura5752 me too
Forget Brotherhood.
FMA 2003 followed by CoS is canon.
@@Rgoid wdym forget?Lol ofc i will never forget it.Personaly fmab is better in my oppinion but if you answer saying that fma is better pls do not cause i am tired making some random kid rq in commemt section.
Spoiler Alert:
Alphonse got his body back in the original FMS, Ed didn’t. In Brotherhood he got his arm back but not his leg.
Jude74 he chose not to get it back so winry could still work on him
that's cuz eds an og
@@ONeill1421 Im pretty sure he didnt have the option to get his leg back, as he only got his arm due to Alphonses sacrifice
Actually, he can. His gate of truth alone could cover that. Or he can use the leftover philosopher’s stone like Roy. But he chose not to make it be a reminder of what happened in his life. And may be the reason to come back and visit Winry.
But Ed lost his power
The Brotherhood ending just felt like the equivalent of kicking back your feet after a long, long hard day. It was that breather that you just needed.
Perfectly said
Another bad thing about the 2003 ending,we don't get to see what happen's back in ed's original world
Watch Conqueror of Shamballa.
MrNinjaStar I think that’s his point, the movie, it doesn’t close anyone’s story?? I think? Idk ::.;
@@MrNinjaStar Ive just finished the original and I wanted to know what is the conquer of shimballa or whatever, is it the continue of the original and should I watch it.
The “true” ending to the original anime. I’d say it’s worth a watch cause it gives some closure, but it isn’t good.
The main issue to me is how a lot of characters were just abandoned
Ok, so here is a thing. Originally they were planning to make a season 2 for 03 FMA, but they decied against that idea in the end. Later Hiromu Arakawa herself wrote a script for a movie to conclude 03 series, but she ended up making script so big that it would fit in 3 movies. However people at bone wanted to move on and start working on brotherhood, so the team working on 03 was told to cut stuff from Arakawas script and make 1 movie to end 2003 series.
Yeah I believe Shamballa was supposed to be a 13 episode arc or something along those lines.
Actually 68 or 86 ep if I remember it right. In any case it was not 13 ep I remember that much.
Does anyone have a source for all of this?
@@mccrillisnsiah why believe you then?
@ForeverDreamWithinADream nope. When 03 did it's own thing they showed the maker where it was heading and she loved it and approved it
I perfer brotherhood ending and final battle more.
Yeah, that seems to be the general consensus.
yes
We all do lolol
I think both are good I do prefer brotherhood more but now that I think about it the original was it’s own respective endings which I like
People like brotherhoods ending cause it's a happy ending. But brotherhood never had too much too much stakes anyways. *cough* pandering.
The 2 different adaptations in general had different purposes as shows. Where brotherhood was more of a shonen action genre series, I’d say the earlier series was about dealing with the morality of choices and more realistic consequences to every action that is taken especially with times of war and especially based on the equivalent exchange that occurs, but also it’s more geared towards the struggles of the brothers dealing with those decisions and their ways of handling it while still holding on to each other through that fact. In all rights both shows are favorites of mine but like I said they have different roles in terms of the kind of stories they tell.
I want movie after Brotherhood just to see what happened with the research, what kind of father is Ed, what happened to Ling, what kind of Fuhrer is Mustang and is he with Riza, what happened with Ishval and Scar. Sadly it won't happen..
I'll be sure to go check out the series again. It's been so long since I saw fullmetal and i'll be happy to rewatch it again
Ayy!
I actually thought the ending was pretty damn good, when people said the ending was absolute crap I though that Edward and Alphonse both died out of the blue, and sure I would have liked to see everything turn out happily ever after, it gives us a sense of hope because the brothers still believed in each other
That’s what makes it so bittersweet!
It's just that...
In the 2003 anime, Ed and Al (based on the movie) got to stay together, but Winry lost it all. Ed and Al were the two people she had left after the death of her parents and it was obvious how much she worried about them. At the end of the day, she never even got to really say goodbye.
Edward was suddenly dropped into that world and just as quickly as he arrived, he left and took his brother with him (whether he meant to or not).
This ending made me depressed actually. I loved the whole show and the fact that he was an alchemist- *A young alchemist* WHY did they take it away from me? I would've been happier if they let him remain a state alchemist. He just settles with Winry and loses his alchemy, grows old with kids? Ha! Why couldn't they have found a different ending? This is my fault for rewatching it because I am very sad about the ending now and I cannot stop thinking about it. I know they made it the way it was probably so they could end the series peacefully and now have anybody asking for more seasons. But still, I feel the ending was unsatisfying and made their journey seem short and wasteful.
Unlike most shonen protagonists, Ed's journey wasn't about power. Skillwise, he learned very little in the entire course of the series. He was already a prodigy at the start. His and Al's entire journey was about mental and emotional growth. Ed more so. The series starts with him pretty much thinking alchemy can solve everything. He sees again and again how it can help and how it can harm. He comes to the conclusion that alchemy isn't the all-powerful skill he thought it was, and he gives it up for his brother's sake. It is fitting, since although Ed was young and can't really be blamed, it WAS his arrogance that led to him suggesting to perform the taboo.
I, too, felt sad that he lost his alchemy. That was the one thing he shone at and spent his life researching. There must have been an adjustment period. But then I realized something beautiful: what made Ed and Al great alchemists was the fact that they didn't just learn it and research it like others. They lived it. They integrated its philosophies into their way of life. Ed will always be an alchemist because that's how he sees the world. He still retains all the knowledge. He can still research. And we know that he keeps traveling around the world. I like to think they occasionally travel as family, too, once the kids are old enough.
It's definitely a much happier ending than FMA03, but it isn't all sunshine and rainbows. Ed losing his alchemy would be a difficult adjustment due to what I mentioned. He will face repercussions for using his own life force to heal himself somewhere down the line. Roy and Riza, in the event they bring democracy to Amestris, will stand trial for their crimes. The ending doesn't focus on these things because those are a worry for some other time. At that point, they're triumphant and they deserve the happiness they've achieved. That's very true to real life, too, from my experience. Bad shit will always happen to you but you will get moments of unexpected peace where despite all reason, everything turned out fine.
This video confirms my belief you need to watch Neon Genesis Evangelion. It does a lot of these things just far better. But anyway I agree. FMAB has a better ending but I would need to rewatch 03 to be able to properly back that up.
Evangelion is definitely in my to watch list.
Really good show depressing but great.
evangelion anime's final two episodes annoyed me, the episodes were fine but I just dont think that's how you should conclude a show. I still havent seen end of evangelion yet but I would prefer if a show concluded with the final episode and not an extra movie.
@@jaceharrison7936 The show ended like that because of budget cuts. Their funding got overwhelmingly gutted. It was disgusting.
I prefer FMAB because, after all the trauma that anime put me through (RIP Nina Tucker, Maes Hughes) and put the characters through, I wanted a happy Disney-esque ending.
2003 just felt more smooth and consistent story-wise and emotionally (sans Shambala). FMAB was fun watch with fun characters like Ling and great explosive fights, but the plot was a bit all over the place, my mind felt constipated. Each has pros and cons to them. I like each for different reasons and will rewatch the specific episodes I like.
2003 handled Nina and Hugh's deaths way better IMO.
Dude that ending just got me in tears and spoke Alot to me And that open up a new bridge on making Music
Nice to hear it inspired you in some way!
MrNinjaStar totally!
I actually do think 03 is pretty consistent in overall themes, and that the ed and Al reuniting wasn't a cop out, I see the appeal of what you were talking about- and if I were to write myself, I probably would have ended up there too ( but only after more dev between Ed and Al themselves, where they can accept a final separation).
Why they still reunite though in Shambala, is that I don't think 03 is necessarily about getting what you need vs what you want. It's about why its important to keep fighting even when hopeless. It's not wrong for Ed to want to save Al's body and life, its not wrong for Al to want to reunite with his brother ( especially if he's willing to pay the price for it, travelling the gate and giving up all past connections but Ed). It's the reality of the world they lived in was that everything they wanted was not ever an easy cost to pay in any means (Roy achieving promotion, after killing the rockbells, forced to face Bradly alone, and pay the price as amestris's Dog and the gravity of his own ambitions, Scar dieing to complete the philosopher's stone, achieving vengeance but also being completely consumed by it by the end, tucker still living, still experimenting on ghost's of Nina, and facing the truth that he is a failure of alchemist who could never hope to fix or bring about life and why he's given that [because In this universe, he is on a similar level as Roy & Ed, not below it, as there is no god/alchemical truth that will judge experimenting on your own child as horrifically irredemably wrong] e.t.c.).
03 took the hopelessness and the horror of what is means to live in a holocaust equivalent world and still fight for what's right and still hope, even when in reality there is little to none. Why its important to still have hope and fight, that I thought it did well despite the other story inconsistency's (plot holes/undefined elements) and general ambiguity of other's situation.
At the end of the day, I do prefer brotherhood and manga, because I was following FMA when it was still being published (lmao yeah i,'m that dated) and its says something to me of the nuance and power behind cowsensei's storytelling, that we have two completely different adaptations of it. that its themes and execution were so well done, there are still people generating content like this. As its themes aren't revolutionary by any means ( all people have inherent value, fighting against the tides of vengeance and overcoming the self = power over fate and power/agency in the world), but how it delivered it writing wise was so satisfying and on point, you felt that when it completed itself viscerally. I still feel the glow of it, thinking of its ending all these years later, because it was just that good.
i actually really liked the ending of the original as opposed to shamballah becauseof it being such an open ending.
sure it didn't have the satisfaction of a real conclusion or something along those line, but it left open to our own imagination just if and how the two might manage to reunite.
and like you said it was somehow bittersweet, that ed managed to achieve the goal of getting al's body back butin turn he was swept into a whole different world and was robbed of the
limbs again he had gotten back for mere moments.
brotherhoods ending was an actual conclusion and felt somewhat satisfying for it, but it was exactly that finality that left me with mixed feelings. on the one hand i was happy for the gang,
on the other i really liked the idea of the one door closing and another opening at the same time
I prefer brotherhood because it's more faithful to the manga and has more action in it. Also the ending was so cute ❤️.
Yea i'm that kind of girl that goes crazy for romantic stuff. 😂
The first reason isn't a reason at all
@@mccrillisnsiah While i do not think either Brotherhood or Avatar are perfect i would definitely say that they are not overrated... Like they both are 9.8/10 Masterpieces...
@@z0bi_ Absolutely. That fellow is misguided.
Back when it was released, the original ending made me pissed off so bad I regret watching the entire series. It was a freaky confusing letdown. Brotherhood ending was the right way.
Hm...
@@MrNinjaStaryou gotta admit it was a little confusing especially for back then if you ain't have internet replay access to rewatch the anime episode and really grasp what Happened hence why were here but it being explained it's kinda a ight ending but I still kinda fell I watched a bunch of plot to end up with more plot lol
Still the show had great moments and I like the characters a lot but a lot of things ended up going nowhere Cause of the ending
You're a dope honest UA-camr man you earned a sub 🙏
Appreciated haha.
That's disappointing to hear. They ended the season with such an ambiguous cliffhanger that it opened up so many possibilities for a second season. But people got all sad because the ending was depressing lmfao. The second arc wouldve fixed that feeling and we'll never get to experience it
I prefer brotherhood more because Edward and winery have kids at the end
Eric Fernandez Never happened.
@@Rgoid it did.
Just finish FMAB in netflix and I gotta say the ending felt more heartwarming than any other. Still sucks they never shown the elric brothers with their dad for one last time and Edward loses his powers!?!?!
He found truth by giving his up his alchemy though. He was the first (presumably) to find that answer, which makes him incredibly gifted. It was sad, but it fit
I prefer Fullmetal Alchemist because it's more realistic or something like this. The ending let me depressed for a long long time an i want brothers back in the other world, not in the real life but it was my first FMA and It's special for me
I haven’t finished brotherhood I thought it was just a retelling so I watched the original series loved it the ending kinda caught me off guard and I haven’t gotten to the movie yet in due time
Late repost but Brotherhood is anime from the manga and the original anime is an alternative story to the manga.
I love how the poster for Brotherhood at 0:40 and 6:36 uses artwork from 03. The color of Ed's hair and coat, the way his face is drawn, the style of the lightning, and the dark hue to Al's plating all gives it away. I just found that really funny.
I was actually fine the way the show ended, excluding the movie. I completely agree with you that the brothers should have remained separated. When Ed and Al both sat in the train and looked at the sky, I felt that their journey was over.
Regarding Conqueror of Shamballa, it would have been better if Envy had been the main antagonist, not that female scientist. Envy should have been the one who manipulates the nazis to take revenge on Hohenheim.
Daddy Ninja back with a nother great video. Gotta love those FMA videos!
Thanks!!! And lmao
I agree that 03's ending was more impactful (better) with it being bittersweet and all, but I far more enjoyed the world and storyline of Brotherhood.
I loved the original, but I loved Brotherhood, too. For me, the entirety of the initial show had such a different mood (Nina) and the music is more emotional. I didn't find it to be melodramatic, merely somber. I'd say my biggest issue with Brohood was the sheer length of the ending battle and the multiple battles prior to that. I guess I prefer character and dialogue over all that fighting (especially the mannequin soldiers.and Sloth, jfc).
I love the movie ending bc it shows that our world exists to
in the ending of brotherhood not everyone was fine, a lot of people died
Still significantly better than 03’s I’d say lol.
I really like 03 ending, I don't like CoS. I also really like FMA:B. Even though it's implied, I just wish there was one more afterward movie that wrapped up Mustang's story.
The manga of Fullmetal Alchemist was still going while the anime is being created, that's why it's different. When Fullmetal Alchemist Brotherhood was created, the anime followed the manga.
I liked the ending of plain alchemist but like how they got to the ending in brotherhood soo i like both equally i guess???
Prefer the 2003 ending. Brotherhood just felt "too" happy, where everything went as they wanted it. An ending where it feels like the heroes where truly impacted by their journey and that they are part of a larger world where things don't always go the way you want just feels much more preferable to me, rather than characters being the center of the world and gaining all of their end goals. Most if not all of those really happy go lucky endings just feel false or wrong to me.
Although I do agree with that, Ed and Al both went through a lot so ending it like In brotherhood was still good because it felt earned
I think Ed and Al's character deserved Brotherhood's ending. It was truly satisfying and the lessons and morals we've learned with it was beautiful. Not all happy endings are bad. They did a pretty good justice to broterhood's ending in my opinion.
I agree, it seems too easy. Life doesn't work out like that, its sad and 03 shows that.
@@mccrillisnsiah it depends on which ending showcased the themes of the show better
Omg just saw your comment and 100% agree with you. the ending of brotherhood is too good to be true and feels fake to me... so i prefer the FMA 03. and besides, im a fan of parallel universes/worlds
2009 : Exchanges skill for a life
2003 : You will always lose more than you gain
For the exception of the ending and the character development of Mustang and Hawkeye, I believe that the first FMA was better than Brotherhood. The story is called Fullmetal Alchemist, Brotherhood should be called fullmetal tangent because often you don’t see the brothers for more than a minute in an episodes or at all. When the main characters aren’t always part of the story being featured and in fact are quite often the ones that aren’t then it kind of goes against the whole point of naming a show after them. Also the scripts for brotherhood we’re not as well developed I thought the acting of Ed aka Vic Mignon who was fabulous in the first FMA was really restricted because of that. I felt like all he did was scream and yell in and say things about his height. It wasn’t a fully realized character, he was two dimensional. I also thought father was two dimensional and frankly kind of boring. Dante to me was a better protagonist, her being a jealous lover and the mother of Hohenheim’s first child that was interesting. And the homunculi in the first half of FMA were vastly superior. Envy being the first homunculus and the half brother of the two main characters that gave me chills.
Both endings where great to their own stories. To the original, the path that we must all take, to go our own way and have new experiences and grow, many times leaving all that we know behind forever. For brotherhood, sacrificing power and status for what’s most important to you and continuing forward with your passion.
I liked the characterization of 2003 better, especially early on, because the characters felt like there was more depth to them. However, when it comes to the story itself and its ending, I liked Brotherhood more. If you were to take 2003's slower, more deliberate narrative style and combine it with the better overall story of Brotherhood, it could have gone from very good to a truly amazing show.
I'm just gonna lay it out here - FMA 2003 aniime ending is perfect and better than the ending of Brotherhood. Conqueror of Shambala movie is crap and I dont consider that as the ending. 2003 ending was incredibly fitting coz it hits the main running them of the anime: Equivalent Exchange. You really don't expect to recover Alfone's body back without some sort of payment. The brothers always knew from the start that it would cost them greatly. And when the ending came, it did cost them. Edward got sent to the other side of the gate so that Alfonse could get his body back. With this, the anime came in full circle. They achieved their final goal but with a great price. And with that open ended ending of both brothers wanting to see each other again in the future lays out more possibilities of how they will end up finding each other again.
Brotherhood ending was great and happy, but 2003 ending really sets the proper tone of the whole concept of Equivalent Exchange.
With that being said i just wanna add that I don’t think 2003 would fit Brotherhood. For the anime 2003 is, the ending fits it pretty well given the previous nature of the series. Much more “drama” heavy. Both endings fit their respective series’s pretty well, it’s just a matter of what tone and direction you prefer.
Actually, the ending of fma brotherhood are perfect. It is according to Arakawa original storyline. When you read his manga, you'll understand his vision. It's not about sacrifice but more about family & bond. The bond created throughout their journey. And you can't say the 2003 fma are bittersweet ending because having a body for Alphonse while losing his only blood family is not a great ending. It's like saying he need to get his body wether he lost his brother for good or having a brother but losing his body forever. Either way, they are still going to be sad. And Edwards losing his abilities for alchemy & his brother at the same time is not equivalent exchange, it's over-compensation. Since it's the alchemy that throw his brother body away. By sacrificing the alchemy itself paid for the body of his brother.
@@TrevorXStrydeR Agreed, the brothers' whole character struggles are about defying the law of equivalent exchange. If they truly believed and accepted it, they wouldn't be trying to get their bodies back in the first place.
2003 says: this is how the world is. It's pointless to try. You won't get anywhere. - It's a message of despair.
Brotherhood/Manga says: this is how the world is. We don't accept it. We can make it better. -It's a message of hope.
+AceKimiChan I also love how the FMA:Brotherhood painted the character in different & better light than FMA03. Especially Van Hohenheim where's in 2003 he was painted as an asshole who procreate in every chance he gets which blew the plot out of proportion. While in FMA:Brotherhood, he is more mature & father-like figures who think highly for the people & mostly his family. He puts hope in the story. As for Roy Mustang, he is still considered as womanizer in FMA:B but wasn't shown explicitly which brought us to Riza to compliment the their relationship.
Hoenheim became one of my favorite characters thanks to brotherhood
It cant be just me who thought brotherhood was like a season 2
I like to original, because the story and its elements are so thought provoking. That is why I liked it. The ending continues this. Even tough it is very unfullfilling, it is thought provoking.
Damn the amount of times he repeated himself was crazy.
Fax 💯
Hey but it's all joke man, I literally just finished brotherhood again. It still awsome.
The Equivalent Exchange is the rule of alchemy, how can you not like the 2003 FMA ending?
it feels so empty and the way it ends is like “THERE’S MORE!”
Shamballa was the “true ending,” and it was whatever until Al joined with Ed. It would’ve been nicer if he stayed with everyone else, and finds his own independence. Not just his brother’s sidekick all the time. And a bunch of the supporting cast didn’t really get proper conclusions(?) I know 03 was mainly about the brothers, but it would’ve been nice to see a lot of the characters we love get a solid conclusion
In fmab the equivelent exchange is still there but ed and al are clever enough to beat it while applying it at the same time so i dont see how that is a plausable argument
Read the manga. Simple.
No
Yup. That's what I did. Still need to watch those anime
Best version of fma
When I saw the Movie ending, there was a scene that’s showed the transformation circle lighting after Ed put his blood on it. My theory was that he could do alchemy in the other world he just didn’t notice. So I always believed they could return if they tried. I still preferred the brotherhood ending but if Ed and Al could have found a way back from the 03 ending I probably would have preferred that cause than at least Al could still use Alchemy.
I actually really liked the FMA ending and that CoS actually ruined it. CoS pulls the same card as the series but with way less build up and pay off. Ed and Al don’t belong in the other world, there’s nothing keeping Ed there except something that was shoehorned in at the beginning of the movie. The ending I would’ve preferred is that at the end of Brotherhood, Ed goes through the gate and the next series/movie is about getting him back and he comes back to be with Winry and Al and to help rebuild Amestris. This ending makes more sense to me because we get to find out a lot of the back story of the power of Alchemy through the other world and this would have big consequences for their realm. After that, then we can have them go on their separate ways to find out the secrets of the world. CoS treats everything like a joke and doesn’t make any sense in its bittersweet ending. If you wanted to keep a bittersweet ending, they should’ve just stopped at the original ending
Fullmetal Alchemist showed more depression then Brotherhood the reason why I say that is there's a lot of drama in Brotherhood and a lot of action while in the original series there's a lot of depression
The ending of fma Was just too sad. Because we all know that no matter how hard ed and al try They just won't see each other again. At least that is the impression that I got from the ending
I think most people prefer brotherhood because it doesn't hurt you in the end 😭 I love 03 and I could spend hours picking it apart for you but I dont tend to rewatch it half as much as I rewatch brotherhood because walst 03 has a very grounded message and wonderful story telling, it's also quite emotionally draining to sit through. Their isn't that last hoorah at the end. The brothers are split up, the journey ends on a bitter note and that's the end of it. On the other hand, brotherhood is much more of that colourful, action joy ride with a tied-with-a-bow ending we've come to expect from anime. Although it has some sower notes of it's own, the ending is overall more palatable and so Easyer to rewatch
The theme seems more that there are unforeseen costs or consequences unlike the theory of equivalent exchange. The message of the anime seems to be to take a look at life and see how life is not "equivalent exchange".
2003 is amazing
Both endings are great, the original still being my favorite version of the two anime’s in general. Brotherhood was good and gave every fan what they wanted with the ultimate happy ending. Nothing bittersweet about brotherhood. Everyone came out on top and they are all alive. Now the original really shows what the brothers had to sacrifice to get their bodies back and to stay together. In the Alphonse had to sacrifice his alchemy to be with his brother. It concluded everything well because it was a story about the two brothers and only having each other in the end
Idk if it’s true but I read somewhere that the creators of 03 had a plan to make a total of 3 movies that work as a trilogy after the series with shambala as the first one. However, due to the manga being finished they were pushed to scrap the 2 next movies to work on brotherhood.
There is also a theory that truth in the original fma just change the original fma ending by make fma brother hood
Head canon:
Ed named his son Maes
Ed named his daughter Nina
That's just weird...
Undo and Rewrite FMA 2003, and in Brotherhood op 1 Again, op 5 Rain ending 5 ray of light, w-t-f
If Al stayed in the original and got certified as a State Alchemist, he could've been called "The Soul-Binding Alchemist"
i literally just finished it right now i’m late but it’s THE BEST AND I LOVE IT so i came here to watch theories 😂
To me the original Fma anime. Is making the best of a situation. This is the hand your dealt with.
The brotherhood manga ending. Is the wholesome closure. It’s overcoming your original hubris. Accepting your faults and growing from that experience.
Only thing I didn't like is Ed not being able to perform alchemy again :(
People really don't like bittersweet endings, huh? Guys, at least Ed and Al are ALIVE.
Can you explain to me what I’m supposed to watch?? I watch the regular FMA and it ended with the brothers reaching out the train. Is there more I’m supposed to watch, like a movie?? Or is that it??
@@strawhatpirates4 yes Fullmetal Alchemist conqueror of shamballa
Al basically killed himself in Shamballa's ending by not returning. He completely removed himself from his original world and winry and his teacher will never know what happened to him either. He missed Ed so much and couldn't bear to be separated again. The memories may be missing but the sadness and depression clearly show
I started with brotherhood but I haven't watched the original but hearing how the original ends I don't know if I should still watch it.
It sounds like it's super inconsistent and leaves a lot of things loose ended but at the same time it's FMA and I wanna see more of FMA
Should I still watch it?
Should I keep going or leave things as they are with feeling satisfied with end of the show?
I’d say go for it!
MrNinjaStar
Alright then,
Thanks!
I was really conflicted on whether I should keep going or not
but if a bigger fan than suggest this I guess I will thank you!
Btw keep it up your videos are pretty good!
I personally watched both anime this year, but I can’t possibly imagine actually watching the show in 2003 and not knowing that a new series with a happier ending was coming. All you had was this.
just imagine how the 03 people that watch it first then bh . tbh i want to see a sequel for bh
I prefer Original FMA'S ending cause it was like reflecting exactly the real life and telling me the one truth of life
There's nothing like a perfect ending in real life that's why original FMA's ending was perfect
Where do I go to watch the original? I have watched it but wanna watch it again as been a while. I have looked nearly everywhere to find it online but cant seem to find it
The "Kids" OVA is a distant epilogue to the '03 anime and concluding movie, gotta check it out if you haven't.
I think it sould be made clear that I have no problem with the ending being bittersweet. I like a good bittersweet ending. This was a BAD bittersweet ending, and not solely because it was bittersweet. The ending felt very rushed and I left with far more questions than answer, and the ending raised more questions than it answered. It felt like everything came out of nowhere all at once. I actually typed out my response to the ending to my friend who suggested the anime to me, so: "I am so confused. That was so unsatisfactory. That all came out of nowhere, and it makes no sense, and the story feels incomplete. It was so good up until the last few episodes! I was so invested, then all this junk came out of nowhere, and now nothing makes sense when I thought I was finally starting to understand everything. I feel like I left with more questions than answers and I feel like they broke some of their own rules they set in place. So many things went absolutely nowhere. Who was Greed? Why was he sealed away if he was as small of a threat as he was? What did he do? Why did Dante bring him back? Who was he before he died? What would happen when the homunculi got their soul? Would they turn into the person the person was originally trying to bring back in the first place? For beings without souls, they sure did have a lot of emotions and memories. How come, if new Nina was the perfect human transmutation, she couldn't do squat when the homunculi were up, moving around, doing things and all that when they weren't perfect? What exactly are the homunculi? What's with their true forms? What's with the whole sins thing? Who was the old Lust? It was implied there would be a new Greed. What was with the parallel world being our world? Is the timeline truly parallel? It was sort of implied that everything was happening all at once. What happens to someone's soul when they die on both sides of the gate? It was briefly implied that 2 souls were sharing the same body when he was brought to our world. How did that happen? Are their souls automatically drawn to their counterparts after they die? So, are there just then 2 souls trapped in that body until they die? How does that work? What happens after that? Who the heck was Gluttony? How was the teacher able to live? How come Ed lost his limbs again when he went back to the other world if he already got them back? Why did Al remember things from his past but not everything? Why did he forget everything when he got his body back? Wasn't it implied that bodies age in the gate? So why didn't his body age? Who was that chick Roy was apparently with or something? What happened to Stongarm? What happened to the whole getting exhausted after using too much energy when doing alchemy at the very beginning of the show? You'd think not using a circle would take more energy, but it seemed Ed could just play patty cake with the ground and come out just fine. What happened to the other brothers that were claiming to be the Elric brothers? What determined what sins the homunculi were? It seems like they just told Sloth she was gonna be Sloth and she just turned into Sloth. I could just keep going and going and going."
I don't know if it's ironic or not, but this is an absolutely gigantic pile of unnecessary questions
I feel in FMA 03 the brothers deserved a happy ending they lost so much more in 03 than they did in FMAB. They made friends with some of the Homunculi such as Lust and Wrath. They also had to deal with Sloth 03 who was their kind of mother. Not to mention the whole entire other world thing was stupid. I feel as if they put that into the story just to have it. Also when Ed dies in our world he goes back to his original world which brings me to the idea that Ed could have killed himself in our world to go back to his. There was no reason in 03 to introduce 2 worlds.
I completely disagree with you about the 2nd world. First, through it we learn where does the energy for Alchemy, and since the philosopher's stone was based on the energy of death, it was logical to assume that ordinary Alchemy works on this principle. In addition, from an artistic point of view, it complements the General theme: the exposure of idealism, the awareness of the entropy of the world, its direction to decay and an attempt to resist this decline. Second is the humanistic message against the war, in the eyes of Hohenheim our world is forever raging fire of war that it is from his point of view normal state for our world and that is what makes the existence of Alchemy in their world is possible. Third, it's just spectacular. In 03 this gave the composer the opportunity to use classical music by Bach, Chopin, and the way this music is woven into the narrative. The Tristesse composition inside the gate is just fine. Your view is very superficial
I highly disagree buddy 🤣🤣 the brotherhood reboot whatever was too sugarcoated and changed so much that it paid no tribute to the original. Its low key a disgrace but that's just me bud
jacob shmit honestly I just finished it and looking back on the 03 version, Brotherhood seems too childish and shonen while the 03 version it more mature and takes itself more serious
jacob shmit you are wrong with that FMA03 had an anime original ending the manga follows more like brotherhood
@@jackspadaccini6617 True, but the manga would probably have a very different ending if the 2003 anime never existed (or if they stopped the 2003 series when it catched up to the manga.)
As the author of Fullmetal Alchemist has stated that she wrote the she tried to make the manga as different to the 2003 version as possible to make it feel unique.
I liked FMA's ending. Cuz it's the first version I watched out of the two. The ending, where I'm left to ponder upon the vastness of impossibility of a billion distant dream that Edward had, to get back to his own world, that too, by building a rocket he blueprinted out to travel outer space. It was too much pain for a shinobi like me.
I always thought that it was very interesting that the gate was connected to our world that if you are able to pass through the gate you will end up in a parallel world but your counterpart has to die for you to cross over
Special place in my heart for '03 and the Shamballa ending, besides Ninja Scroll FMA 03 and the movie were my first Animes and I will always love them.
Thumbs up because I thought you did a great job articulating your point of view but I whole heartedly disagree.
A massive point that the show makes via both adaptations is the fact that equivalent exchange isn’t a real concept. When you put in X you don’t get Y in similar value.
My jaw hit the floor when I thought Ed wasn’t going to be permanently united with Al. I’ve watched the entire show waiting and hoping for the two brothers to finally be united, which is why I hated the pre Shambala Ending so much.
I was tremendously relieved when Al popped out of the armor.
Ed and Al through alchemy and the gate traded, what started off their entire adventure off for normal lives. Alchemy.
This comes back to the falsehood reoccurring theme of Equivalent Exchange, but for once: it works in their favor.
Yes, it sucks to see the boys give up an ability that most of us would love to wield. However, their permanent uniting and brotherhood is too heart warming to not love.
That’s fair. I get where you’re coming from, and thank you!
The original FMA had enough material for a second season but because Bones was planning Brotherhood while the original was airing they had to condense it into the movie leading to the conqueror of Shamballa.
I didn’t even remember Al went with Ed, fuck. They probably think he got swallowed by the fucking gate
If you haven't seen this anime, read the manga. Brotherhood is close but the ending removed an entire scene from the manga (literally the climax of the story) and i have no idea why
Textbook example of the book being better.
Like your explanation for both endings.
Thanks!
A mini goal for al could be try all the foods on his list when he travels back out at the end
Imagine if FMA took place in a modern setting. Like Imagine the blood seal put on a hard drive and becoming an AI.
Fma 03 is dark. And its perfect by its own.
I just dont like that ling and lan fan weren't in it bc those were my favorites in brotherhood, but the original anime was still really good.
Ed and Al's journey could never be over unless they are united though. They just won't give up until they get what they want or die
I cried that ed and Al are not to gather anymore 😭
Did you know that conqueror of shambala was originally going to be another season?
I prefer brotherhood because it wasn’t as sad as the original fma , in the original series ed and al’s mother turns into homunculus and tries to destroy her kids like although she necessarily isn’t trisha elric it was still too heartbreaking to see some homonculus with her appearance being a villian . I thought omg everything started cuz of her death and the brothers literally sacrificed a lot to bring her back but then the mother they resurrected got manipulated by bad guys and became one of those bad guys ;-;. Anyways i like the idea that homonculuses r not people who got resurrected by people like ed and al in the brotherhood series. The brotherhood series just felt more meaningful than the 1st one . Also thank u so much for making this video it made me think again about my fav animes again ✨
Honestly in my opinion I think I thought the ending of the Brotherhood and 03 woods bope okay they both had interesting endings to them.
The anime that I would most like to see would be a continuation of 2003, in which they managed to return to their world. I think it would be possible to create a new plot, based on the destruction in the capital and the appearance of a new villain, perhaps a disciple of Dante and Hoenhein, who had started the creation of the philosopher's stone or something. Anyway, the video is very good.
Im a bit confused like because brother hood came out does that mean the movie doesn't exist in the time line or ?
I am hoping they get their alchemist body back. Like for the story to continue. That some tragedy forces the brother to get their powers back to fight the new threat that arrive.
So Fullmetal Alchemist Brother Hood isn't a 2nd Season??!!
It's a remake
I love many anime shows and FMA (both of them) are in my top 5 for sure. One of the things I've always found anoying is the cartoony/silly/chibi moments sprinkled throughout each series. I wish more than anything else for FMA that it was stylized as a Seinan. I wish it was more serious and the comedy can still be there without over the top reactions and I'd argue that it would actually be funnier that way.
Does the movie tie into the story? because 10 minutes into the movie and im so damn confused whats going on after finishing the original ending.
STRIKERFORCE2 did you finish brotherhood or the 2003 version. The movie takes place in the 2003 anime.
Billy Joe I’ve finished both but the movie seems to be throwing me off here, the ending of the original both Ed and al were split apart but in the movie they are back together???
I'm a big believer in happy endings so I didn't really like 03 ending. On the other hand in Brotherhood I felt bad Ed didn't get his leg back and have to give up Alchemy he's the only one still affect by the story but I'm glad it all worked out for the most part.
I loved the original FMA anime ending. I really like bittersweet endings, not alll the series need a happy ening, and i think is perfect that this series got two drastically diferent versions, then you can apreciate both for different reasons.