Easy for you to say you won't lose sleep over the job security. You've been a developer, traveler, doctor, policeman, astronaut, and firefighter. Some of us don't have that luxury
This is point for point. I'm learning data analytics now. Elevated my Excel skills (pivot tables/charts, V/H LOOKUP, conditional formatting), learned SQL (almost intermediate), Tableau. Now I'm teaching myself Python through Udemy and Coursera, learning more Excel (Power Query), and refreshing my statistics. Keep grinding. When then market becomes employee-driven again, I'll be ready.
Wouldn't AI make most or all of those jobs obselete? Aren't there too many people entering the field? Do the various Asian nations you've visited have specific downsides?
@@christiandauz3742 I'm a Data Scientist and would advise most people to look for another profession. Tech work is indeed oversaturated and I just don't understand these people who openly admit that their "coding" job today consists of them typing a few sentences into ChatGPT; eventually your employer is going to figure out that they can pay someone much less to do that than they're likely paying you.
100% right my brother. At all points in history you'll find people who say "oh well it's too late, it's all been done". But you are absolutely correct in that, right now, this moment, is the absolute best time in history to self learn anything and sell your product. There are so many avenues for you, if, and this is a big word here, IF you are willing to put in the work. I actually don't mind the fear mongering at this point. It keeps everyone else out and makes it easier for us.
I'm a high school drop out and got a job almost 2 months ago now. If I did it, then anyone can. You just have to commit and see it thru to the end. How do you think I felt getting rejected for the 1000th time? If you know most people will quit at that point, all you have to do is not quit and that automatically increases ur odds. Ofc some would say, thats not worth it. Well it was for me.
@@joevaghn457 nothing unique or special tbh. Im not good at networking so i stuck to other methods. What did get me a job was because of my location and being korean american as it is a primarily a korean company located in los angeles. also the team needed someone with an eye for visuals and front end focused full stack dev, because nobody there was into that as much as i was. They also use c# for backend which i was learning at the time i applied for the job. In conclusion i just think i was a good fit in terms of what they needed, and i remember him saying he liked my vibe in korean. I wouldnt say vibe is accurate but closest to the korean meaning of what he said lol.
I fall into the "I don't care; I'm just gonna learn" camp. Not because I want a higher paying job--I could stay in QA forever and just write automation scripts for whoever and whatever needs it. But I think it's fascinating and fun! I love finding new, more efficient methods to use: "Oh hey, I can use reduce instead of nesting a few fors! Nice!" This will transfer nicely into game coding, as well, which is something else I'd like to start doing! Also, great videos, Dorian! Always love to see them in my reccs or subs.
really appreciate this video, im that guy who has been grinding for the last year + learning how to code, making projects, doing tutorials, reading books etc. Still with no job of course, but this recent wave of AI and layoffs has definitely gotten to me and has made me question whether my efforts were worth it anymore. I have taken the foot off the gas pedal a bit, but this video definitely inspired me to stay the course, thanks man
I am 1 year and a half, and no job yet but doing the same as you, but what makes me not give up is that I have a purpose in life, and I won't give up ever in this purpose and will go through other pathways if it is what is needed, not out of software, but doing freelancing till get hired in a company, offering my work to businesses, if one door is closed, find another, that is what I believe.
@@jasontricolor2978 love this bro, same here. im definitely looking more toward the freelancing route at this point. its also in line with my entrepreneurial pursuits as well. eskeeetit man
If you want to make it alone, or just self taught (sure does feel alone), then you have to be ahead of the curve. It's a lot easier than you think. The economy is like the ocean, and big companies are big fish. Just realize that the big fish take a lot of energy to change direction. You, on the other hand, are small and fast, and can scout ahead.
Im 26 years old trying to get into Tech as a Software Engineer or a Front End Engineer and have been trying to learn html, css and JavaScript then eventually React for the last 3 to 4 months and its been very fun, frustrating, overwhelming and supper interesting to see how all these languages interact with one another and amazed at what they can do. As a beginner it's hard but not impossible since there is allot of free resources and other engineers that are willing to help you. I've heard many amazing stories and including Dorian Develops was very inspiring when he first started. Currently a Wild Land Fire Fighter doing all that I can to make it in the industry or even land a Job. I don't know how to prepare for an interview or what should I have done before even considering applying for a job. Currently looking into finding tutors, other free resources that I have not heard of, how to get better at leetcode, JS and React. I'm new to this industry and can't wait to be a part of it.
Great video! And yeah, PHP is still very useful even though it has been pronounced dead for the last 10-15 years. Love the take on just learning the actual things without getting FOMO about everything new
I have to jump in here. I liked this on the Dischord already but I wanted to say something directly to you. Who knows maybe you'll get to read it, but if not no worries maybe it will inspire someone else. I'm fredzworld on your dischord and I'm currently doing #100Devs 30 week bootcamp with Leon. Which is how I came to join your Dischord because of him. Your regular video posts make me often face the realities of the IT space and I'm striving always to grow what value I can bring to a job so that I am hirable. All that being said I wanted to thank you for what I consider a very important video because I agree that no matter what the future holds staying the course in learning is going to be key to everything. If AI takes all the jobs away or not. Quitting or standing still is never the answer. Keep sharing your journey and one day maybe our paths will cross and I can tell you thank you in person.
i absolutely agree not just in IT but in any field and any other job you have to upgrade your self you have to keep learning and exploring everyone wants to be entrepreneur but no one wants to put in work same everyone wants to be a developer but no one wants to build anything
@@DorianDevelops I’m really grateful my brother! I’ve lived an incredible life, traveled the world. The thought “…you miss 💯 % of the shots you don’t take”, is always at the front of my mind. I’m certain I am exactly where I’m supposed to be. 🙏❤️
@@vinay.upadhyay so very true! I’m originally from Chicago, but my family is from Arkansas. So I was raised around a lot of country saying. The one that I have ingrained in my heart is “…nobody wants to hear about the labor pains, they only want to see the baby.” I’m 60yrs old now and my day job is music. For the past 15 years I’ve been the Guitarist for The Pointer Sisters and I’m my travels people often say “I’d like to do that”, but they never consider what it took to just learn how to play, not to mention what it took to become a professional. In life, if I have learned nothing else, I know achieving something good requires a huge sacrifice. And nothing good is easy. Thanks for your reply, support, and your kind words. I know we are not just encouraging each other, we are encouraging so many more so I thank you. 🙏❤️
Been working for almost 20 years (more before getting my degree). What goes around comes around. IT history comes in cycles and if you have a good attitude to being useful and having skills. You'll bs okay once the hype dies down. But that's what so great about this industry too! Excitement!!
This video is both scary and helpful. I would actually say it's more helpful. My current life situation is very bad, and I've decided to learn web development few days ago. I quit design school due to personal issues but I never really found it helpful as well. Graphic design is one of those things that you can learn on your own. I have an "artistic brain" meaning I really enjoy things that are visually stimulating, so when I started learning HTML few days ago, I realized how boring coding looks. So I immedietly thought about maybe trying to give up in the future. Because I thought " hey I don't have a mathmatical brain, I sucked at math in school, I also like art and design." But even though I expect failure in the future, because of something that I'm going to find complicated , I'm going to keep doing it, the human brain is really capable of so many things. I think when many people start they really forget the failure part, so they continue learning and the minute they encounter a problem or a no from an employer they take it as a sign to stop. "Oh this must not be meant for me." There's going to be a lot of people who are not going to hire me, I don't have a university degree, I only have a high school diploma. I don't have experience. I have to accept those things. Being self-taught is scary, because you have to convince the employer a lot that you're fit for the job. I don't know if I'm still going to be doing this in a year from now, but If I am, I'm going to prove many things wrong to myself and also prove that the self-taught route is achievable if you never stop learning.
I've been following the channel for the past couple years or so and in my opinion, this is easily one of your best videos. The advice goes well beyond coding to apply to almost any arena of life. I detect a great deal of Stoicism in what you said, and I agree that it's almost the only approach we can take to stay sane in this rapidly changing world. If AI takes over everything, what really can we do about it? We have to grind for the things we want to accomplish without any guarantee of success. That's the harsh truth.
Much appreciated sir. Been feeling a little hopeless as of late. What a breath of fresh air watching this video. Not because you’re being optimistic, but because you’re being realistic (and right).
People forget that they can build their own projects to bring to the market while hunting for a job too and may not need the job if the program/app/website/freelance takes off
@@jordixboy nothing is easy. But might as well try while searching for the job that is also not easy. The days of showing up with a handshake and being handed a livable wage died with our parents/grandparents
I have to really avoid social media related to tech almost entirely because everyone is complaining it’s hard or impossible and that stressed me out. It also bugs me a lot it always comes from people actively employed in the field… I did it, you can’t dont bother its too impossible is always how I have interpreted it. But if I gave up what would I do instead? … so I find trying to avoid all that content helps me stay productive and sane.
The thing that got me through learning was being part of an open source project where what I learned had real implications in the form of bug fixes or new features. Really helps to see the results of your work, even if its small. Also helps when applying for a job to have a history of your evolution. Helped for me , almost 12 years later.
Also as a VFX professional I've been using adobe since the CS days.... Ever since creative cloud adobe apps have been trash. If its no After Effects, Premiere, Or photoshop its #worthless
Thank You! For your effort. Me and a lot of us who have been constantly supressed to have learned helplessness and imposed imposter syndrome really need to hear an expert like you gives the hope to not give up and muster perseverance and learn to ignore those who want to prevent us from making our dreams come true. I’m sure many of us will do amazing things with programming and some might even give real impactful contributions to society and its thanks to you and people like you the world will be grateful for
The dry spells in tech are harsh but short-lived... it's just part of the business cycle in USA. Get used to it and price in the dry-spells when times are good again.
I have to agree 110% with you on continuing to self study. The market is ever changing and there will be times when the things will take a turn for the worse, however, it should not stop anyone from continuing to pursue their goal. Thank you for putting out this video.
I’ve been learning for a year. I’m not self taught but I enjoyed the video anyway. I don’t think I’m close to job ready so I enjoyed the encouragement to keep going. THANKS!
And a lot of companies won’t allow employees to use AI for data security reasons. Not to mention prompting an LLM with enough context to get what you need, if it requires any complexity at all, is basically impossible. It’s far too complex for any available model to do at this point
Self teaching is very difficult. I had to teach myself how to write assembly for an embedded programming assignment over the course of 1 weekend just to keep up with my class mates who are electrical engineering students when working on a computer engineering minor. They had a 2 month head start and I had to catch up fast.
i absolutely agree not just in IT but in any field and any other job you have to upgrade yourself you have to keep learning and exploring everyone wants to be entrepreneur but no one wants to put in work same for everyone wants to be a developer but no one wants to build anything, everyone wants easy way out, every job every business needs innovation and upskilling you people are worried about future you don't know worrying about unknown and holding your self back it sure shot way to failure and misery at least build something and fail you might learn something out of it. And just stop watching videos about day in a life of engineer , how to get 200k job offer etc
I'm currently working as a social worker (13years) but I would like to transition back into tech.I finished a software development course that was fairly cheap(less than $600). I will continue learning so that I will be ready when or if I get the opportunity. Like your content.
i have been watching you for about 2 months, you are doing good job man, i liked your advice previously about writing comments and md file, i was doing it with my last project, i really recognized the difference, and my code is getting more cleaner now also, i really like how you are realistic about the market, you don't sell SHITS illusions, and you are not stick to you opinion finally, i liked your lifestyle as a programmer, especially that we "programmers" sit all the fucking day, i already have a pain in my neck, i hitted to gym when i started following you and felt motivated 😂. also, i am willing to try that ice bath thing in the close future, i have started first with cold water each morning as a beginning, and it makes me more productive, and now i am drinking less coffee, can't wait to see ice bath effects i just wrote you all of that cause i feel i should say thank you man, keep publishing good content out of all other SHITS that fills the youtube
With all respect, we KNOW that the job market will bounce back. Takes normally 2-5 years for a major recession to pass. We also KNOW that AI will take the job - the question is the timeline, which may go from 5 to 20 years, but you have to be quite stupid to assume it will not happen. And Devin is hardly a fraud - people just expect so much from it that it is not able to deliver - but what in 5 years? But again, the future is extremely clear - but the timeline is always open for discussion.
I fully respect the direction to make the content you want, but these are always my favorite videos from you. You have inspired me to pursue this and replace my gaming addiction with coding. Keep up the grind bro ❤
I appreciate this a lot. I've been learning for the past couple months. Started with a python course, then learned web design and now javascript. I am struggling on the javascript course, but I still don't want to give up. I know at some point everything will click and I won't feel so lost about it anymore. I faced this same scenario learning python, as well as web design. So I just realized I am used to "failing", and maybe that's the best thing that's happened to me. Thank you for the rant, been watching you since before I even started coding!
Im on the tech art side of dev. In the last year, the job descriptions started listing c++ opengl dev on top of asset optimization, pipeline dev, and shader dev. So the jobs have been disappearing and reappearing with more responsibilities and less chances that anyone is capable of doing the skills for work. A programmer + cgi in one person is not common, add in c++ opengl engine dev with knowing like 10+ different cgi programs, and like 4 languages too?
I personally think that the sizeable salaries software professionals have historically commanded is precisely why our jobs are in jeopardy. You're correct that the "no code" solutions haven't been able to replace actual developers but AI is different. AI is generative in nature which is going to lead to a "1000 monkeys pounding on typewriters" problem where the end user doesn't have to write code and/or be hyper technical in their specifications; you can just tell AI build me 10,000 websites, apps, or models overnight and the end user will just have to select one in the morning.
this was no rant but one of the most honest opinions about today's tech landscape and realities self-taught developers would have to search the whole internet to find. thanks a lot!!!
As a self-taught engineer working in tech without a degree, it's easy to be hyperfocused on job security. But honestly, if you focus on improving your skills, credentials and network, you establish your own safety nets. Cheers to your goals 🍻
@DorianDevelops, do you have a video for a roadmap to follow when you learn to become a programmer, I know some programmers say that you should only learn the basics on not all of it because it becomes a rabbit hole and could easily get lost when just starting out, Is that true ?
I'm planning to make a video about that at the beginning of the year but the resource I'll be talking about is going to be roadmap.sh it has a lot of dev roadmaps laid out there for different paths you can take in software.
As someone who has been learning for the past almost 5 years and still haven't found a job I'm not letting anything get in my way of making it in this field
Im a soft dev but wear a hat of software quality assurance and many more. And also a self taught developer. But I did not stop their. I continue studying learning, I am more efficient Now as in Now when learning alone with AI on my Skills than before. With the help of AI it makes my learning more easy as well as AI add up to my skills, Im learning Python and developing my skills in Java as well as developing my skills as a Prompt Engineer. What motivates me more to learn right now is because of AI. Thanks to AI
Massive disagree on the statement - It was super easy to get a job in 2020. I did give interviews in hopes of switching companies as a 4 year exp developer and guess what, I never was successful in switching the company. It's a good thing I did all of that undercover. Getting a job in the tech sector was ALWAYS difficult, is difficult and WILL BE difficult. There is no "golden time to get hired" in the tech sector. Just my opinion bruh. Also, AI is trash and just a hype-train.
@@martinjose9331 there is a fine line between being negative and being realistic and factual. Actually, if you operate on realistic base. you stand stronger in front the unknown situations
@@j.shishani6808 Yes, there is. But bitching on youtube is not being realistic and factual. AI is a glorified search engine, pure hype to sell products and make people like this guy kick and scream that someday they will be replaced by it.
@@martinjose9331 I’m 7 minutes in and this has been pretty much exclusively positive. If you have the grit to follow through with it you can absolutely do it
Turn down the noise. Nobody can live in constant worry. I have been learning code since 2015, started working in 2017. It has been difficult and lonely. It still is hard but I've come too far to change industry. This year I will specialize in front-end: HTML, CSS, JS (Angular/Typescript)ans master the hell out of it.
what I dont understand to big companies is that they outsource job to india and they get advertiser money from the USA. they can't get better advertisers in india, which is crazy to me. the government should do something .
I agree America first . Globalism is bad . American companies need to adopt nationalistic values at their core . If they’re going to benefit in America they should support Americans.
Thanks Dorian. This add to my already made decision after wavering because of lay offs and AI. I finally realized that I simply enjoy writing code, learning new stuff on and on, creating things, solving problems. And I want, after several years of struggle, with pause/work periods interchanging , mostly because of lack of self esteem and darkness, to reach the goal and became software engineer working on ideas worth turning into reality. For that, I reluctantly 🥲 admit that my social skills need to be on much higher level as well as network of great, quality and positive people...
A lot of the tech companies are outsourcing without people's knowledge. I know people in Cebu where they recently got hired only for a $35,000 salary and no benefits lol.
I really don't know what to do. I want to keep learning software development, but once I see AI and it's current capabilities, I get discouraged and quit for a period of time. And then I get back to it when I see the potential in the industry. It's a never ending cycle.
I'm thinking of doing Cyber Security, there should be some code in there too but I thought I'd do "2 for 1" kinda deal, where I work on my own - learning to code - and do Cyber Security for my bachelor.
What does "self-taught" really mean? That is the question. If you come from a heavy quantitative background where you already did a bit of computer programming - just not on an industrial grade codebase - do you still self describe as a self-taught?
Coding is not an evergreen profession that everyone that talks about it makes it out to be. It's not a good job. It's long hours in front of a computer, pay is being driven down by oversaturation. You're not going to make 6 figures anymore and you're going to be treated as a replacable cog.
This is my experience in tech too. And just wait til you hit your 50s and nobody will hire you. I think people are interested in tech because it's the last job you can maybe get into that pays okay and doesn't require a masters degree. So many influencers are pushing tech because they make money from clicks and low effort courses they sell.
So is it all just front end development? I'm not teasing, I'm just so confused because I can make games, write custom shaders, ect but I can't get a single interview for the life of me. I've released 20 games to steam, more than a dozen assets to unity and unreal marketplace, and the only people it impresses is the initial recruiters it seems, after that I just get no response. If it wasn't for some family problems I would have gone to China for a interview a year ago and now I feel like I messed up, because no one is hiring. Oh well, this is why I like your content. I know you're right.
@@TegridyMadeGames When you send job applications, you're getting filtered by tards. 99% of large companies, the people who do the hiring have no idea what they're doing and zero idea about the activities, skills and knowledge necessary to perform the job well. You will find a job much, much easier by bringing that portfolio to areas where you can socially network and show people your portfolio that way as opposed to putting in apps that sit in an inbox to get ctrl+f'd by some sloppy pig.
As a beginner, I would caution using LLMs to learn how to code or help learn how to code. I agree they are just another tool, but imagine relying on LLMs to solve problems. Now, I have not experienced a technical interview yet, but I cannot imagine being able to use an LLM to solve a problem on the spot. Also, what if you do not understand what the generated code does or how/why it works? How are you going to debug or maintain it?
Decided going back to school makes the most sense. AI cant take my job if i keep making AI's to take other peoples job or make tools for ai tools. An ouroborous of abstraction keeps at least enough to afford to keep the hunger away
I actually got interested in coding specifically cuz of AI I see this as huge opportunity and AI will only get better My main focus is mastering python/PyTorch/Machine learning and anything that’s connected to AI. I do think learning c++ or jvs is waste of time in the age of Ai
Think about all the new computer chips, processing power and massive infrastructure that would have to change for all of this to happen. Programmers (real ones) aren't going anywhere. Sure jobs have been lost, but the demand is still there. Likely it will take much more time, several decades even before AI is going to replace engineers to that degree. AI is the new hype and yes there are tools, but they will help with productivity at a much more efficient level. When the economy returns, more jobs will pop up. Programmers should keep their skills sharp and focus on being better. New tech is coming as well.
The Biggest question I have been facing is should I still study Computer Science? I have been working in the industry for 5 years now as a full stack. Everytime I look at job desciptions it says "computer science degree required" but my experience and stack more than fits the role. Is it worth the 4 years of books and exams?
Most "developers" or "programmers" are toddlers with a glue stick. You can recognise their "product" by the amount of external libraries they require to fill even the most basic requirements. Tjose can and will be replaced by whatever "AI" the next version of "AI" will be. As the old saying goes: When there's a goldrush, sell shovels. Or, to survive a zombie apocalypse you only need to run faster than the guy slower than you. Create original content or components and you're plenty safe.
Easy for you to say you won't lose sleep over the job security. You've been a developer, traveler, doctor, policeman, astronaut, and firefighter. Some of us don't have that luxury
Same excuse that peoole use to not get started on anything or drop it halfway and wonder why they never get anywhere in life
Yes, it's easy to say that because he has jobs already. But as beginners you gotta be more realistic
He's also been a plumber laying the pipe while doing all of those jobs. Multi-tasking machine.
johnny is a bad ass
😂 One joke I feel bad for understanding.
This is point for point. I'm learning data analytics now. Elevated my Excel skills (pivot tables/charts, V/H LOOKUP, conditional formatting), learned SQL (almost intermediate), Tableau. Now I'm teaching myself Python through Udemy and Coursera, learning more Excel (Power Query), and refreshing my statistics. Keep grinding. When then market becomes employee-driven again, I'll be ready.
Sounds like you're on the right track and have the right mindset 💪
Wouldn't AI make most or all of those jobs obselete? Aren't there too many people entering the field?
Do the various Asian nations you've visited have specific downsides?
@@christiandauz3742 I'm a Data Scientist and would advise most people to look for another profession. Tech work is indeed oversaturated and I just don't understand these people who openly admit that their "coding" job today consists of them typing a few sentences into ChatGPT; eventually your employer is going to figure out that they can pay someone much less to do that than they're likely paying you.
@@christiandauz3742 can use ai to help you do those jobs
really? dude no offense but data analytics is impacted...
I was guilty of this, started learning again few months ago. no more excuses. Thanks for the rant!
A lot of people look for a reason to give up 😂. Just have realistic expectations. Yes its hard... but. keep learning.
amen brother! Do not be fooled people... now is the most ideal time to LEARN. Step away from CONSUMING and become a CREATOR. Bless you all,
100% right my brother. At all points in history you'll find people who say "oh well it's too late, it's all been done". But you are absolutely correct in that, right now, this moment, is the absolute best time in history to self learn anything and sell your product. There are so many avenues for you, if, and this is a big word here, IF you are willing to put in the work. I actually don't mind the fear mongering at this point. It keeps everyone else out and makes it easier for us.
I'm a high school drop out and got a job almost 2 months ago now. If I did it, then anyone can. You just have to commit and see it thru to the end. How do you think I felt getting rejected for the 1000th time? If you know most people will quit at that point, all you have to do is not quit and that automatically increases ur odds. Ofc some would say, thats not worth it. Well it was for me.
What did you do to help you get your foot in?
@@joevaghn457 nothing unique or special tbh. Im not good at networking so i stuck to other methods. What did get me a job was because of my location and being korean american as it is a primarily a korean company located in los angeles. also the team needed someone with an eye for visuals and front end focused full stack dev, because nobody there was into that as much as i was. They also use c# for backend which i was learning at the time i applied for the job.
In conclusion i just think i was a good fit in terms of what they needed, and i remember him saying he liked my vibe in korean. I wouldnt say vibe is accurate but closest to the korean meaning of what he said lol.
how did you master dsa??
@@Mahakaal1221 bro i did like 1 easy, 1 medium, 1 hard project on leetcode for every topic :D
I fall into the "I don't care; I'm just gonna learn" camp. Not because I want a higher paying job--I could stay in QA forever and just write automation scripts for whoever and whatever needs it. But I think it's fascinating and fun! I love finding new, more efficient methods to use: "Oh hey, I can use reduce instead of nesting a few fors! Nice!" This will transfer nicely into game coding, as well, which is something else I'd like to start doing!
Also, great videos, Dorian! Always love to see them in my reccs or subs.
I like how the ads for classes on AI are like "don't learn to code", and the curriculum lists coding classes
I know 😂
The paradox society:don t code
Society when you built AI:Do you have experience with programming language?
Top G! Love your sincerity Dorian, I can relate a lot with your life story! Continue keeping it real!
Thank you! Will do!
really appreciate this video, im that guy who has been grinding for the last year + learning how to code, making projects, doing tutorials, reading books etc. Still with no job of course, but this recent wave of AI and layoffs has definitely gotten to me and has made me question whether my efforts were worth it anymore. I have taken the foot off the gas pedal a bit, but this video definitely inspired me to stay the course, thanks man
I am 1 year and a half, and no job yet but doing the same as you, but what makes me not give up is that I have a purpose in life, and I won't give up ever in this purpose and will go through other pathways if it is what is needed, not out of software, but doing freelancing till get hired in a company, offering my work to businesses, if one door is closed, find another, that is what I believe.
@@jasontricolor2978 love this bro, same here. im definitely looking more toward the freelancing route at this point. its also in line with my entrepreneurial pursuits as well. eskeeetit man
If you want to make it alone, or just self taught (sure does feel alone), then you have to be ahead of the curve. It's a lot easier than you think. The economy is like the ocean, and big companies are big fish. Just realize that the big fish take a lot of energy to change direction. You, on the other hand, are small and fast, and can scout ahead.
Im 26 years old trying to get into Tech as a Software Engineer or a Front End Engineer and have been trying to learn html, css and JavaScript then eventually React for the last 3 to 4 months and its been very fun, frustrating, overwhelming and supper interesting to see how all these languages interact with one another and amazed at what they can do. As a beginner it's hard but not impossible since there is allot of free resources and other engineers that are willing to help you. I've heard many amazing stories and including Dorian Develops was very inspiring when he first started. Currently a Wild Land Fire Fighter doing all that I can to make it in the industry or even land a Job. I don't know how to prepare for an interview or what should I have done before even considering applying for a job. Currently looking into finding tutors, other free resources that I have not heard of, how to get better at leetcode, JS and React. I'm new to this industry
and can't wait to be a part of it.
same boat but 25 lol, we got this man!!!
@@BrayanRuiz-m3w how’s the process going for you?
Have you tried scrimba?
@@Miguel-ve1lh no what is that?
I am getting ready for a bootcamp. I start next week. I appreciate hearing this.
Great video! And yeah, PHP is still very useful even though it has been pronounced dead for the last 10-15 years. Love the take on just learning the actual things without getting FOMO about everything new
Quiet, some of us old guys are cool with the kids ignoring PHP and all the long-tail work.
I have to jump in here. I liked this on the Dischord already but I wanted to say something directly to you. Who knows maybe you'll get to read it, but if not no worries maybe it will inspire someone else. I'm fredzworld on your dischord and I'm currently doing #100Devs 30 week bootcamp with Leon. Which is how I came to join your Dischord because of him. Your regular video posts make me often face the realities of the IT space and I'm striving always to grow what value I can bring to a job so that I am hirable. All that being said I wanted to thank you for what I consider a very important video because I agree that no matter what the future holds staying the course in learning is going to be key to everything. If AI takes all the jobs away or not. Quitting or standing still is never the answer. Keep sharing your journey and one day maybe our paths will cross and I can tell you thank you in person.
I'm really happy that you're finding my videos helpful! Stick with it man you'll be happy you did!
i absolutely agree not just in IT but in any field and any other job you have to upgrade your self you have to keep learning and exploring everyone wants to be entrepreneur but no one wants to put in work same everyone wants to be a developer but no one wants to build anything
@@DorianDevelops I’m really grateful my brother! I’ve lived an incredible life, traveled the world. The thought “…you miss 💯 % of the shots you don’t take”, is always at the front of my mind. I’m certain I am exactly where I’m supposed to be. 🙏❤️
@@vinay.upadhyay so very true! I’m originally from Chicago, but my family is from Arkansas. So I was raised around a lot of country saying. The one that I have ingrained in my heart is “…nobody wants to hear about the labor pains, they only want to see the baby.” I’m 60yrs old now and my day job is music. For the past 15 years I’ve been the Guitarist for The Pointer Sisters and I’m my travels people often say “I’d like to do that”, but they never consider what it took to just learn how to play, not to mention what it took to become a professional. In life, if I have learned nothing else, I know achieving something good requires a huge sacrifice. And nothing good is easy. Thanks for your reply, support, and your kind words. I know we are not just encouraging each other, we are encouraging so many more so I thank you. 🙏❤️
Thanks for your motivation Dorian, this was just what I needed right now
Been working for almost 20 years (more before getting my degree). What goes around comes around. IT history comes in cycles and if you have a good attitude to being useful and having skills. You'll bs okay once the hype dies down. But that's what so great about this industry too! Excitement!!
love it when Dorian Sinns tells us not to worry
Big fan of the rants.
Thanks! My wife hates when I rant so I have to do it on UA-cam 😂
Ok, one month then. 😂 @DorianDevelops
This video is both scary and helpful. I would actually say it's more helpful. My current life situation is very bad, and I've decided to learn web development few days ago. I quit design school due to personal issues but I never really found it helpful as well. Graphic design is one of those things that you can learn on your own. I have an "artistic brain" meaning I really enjoy things that are visually stimulating, so when I started learning HTML few days ago, I realized how boring coding looks. So I immedietly thought about maybe trying to give up in the future. Because I thought " hey I don't have a mathmatical brain, I sucked at math in school, I also like art and design." But even though I expect failure in the future, because of something that I'm going to find complicated , I'm going to keep doing it, the human brain is really capable of so many things. I think when many people start they really forget the failure part, so they continue learning and the minute they encounter a problem or a no from an employer they take it as a sign to stop. "Oh this must not be meant for me." There's going to be a lot of people who are not going to hire me, I don't have a university degree, I only have a high school diploma. I don't have experience. I have to accept those things. Being self-taught is scary, because you have to convince the employer a lot that you're fit for the job. I don't know if I'm still going to be doing this in a year from now, but If I am, I'm going to prove many things wrong to myself and also prove that the self-taught route is achievable if you never stop learning.
This was helpful, Dorian
I've been following the channel for the past couple years or so and in my opinion, this is easily one of your best videos. The advice goes well beyond coding to apply to almost any arena of life. I detect a great deal of Stoicism in what you said, and I agree that it's almost the only approach we can take to stay sane in this rapidly changing world. If AI takes over everything, what really can we do about it? We have to grind for the things we want to accomplish without any guarantee of success. That's the harsh truth.
Much appreciated sir. Been feeling a little hopeless as of late. What a breath of fresh air watching this video. Not because you’re being optimistic, but because you’re being realistic (and right).
Dorian gets straight to the point! Right on the spot!!
People forget that they can build their own projects to bring to the market while hunting for a job too and may not need the job if the program/app/website/freelance takes off
yeah sure, really easy to do that ...
@@jordixboy nothing is easy. But might as well try while searching for the job that is also not easy. The days of showing up with a handshake and being handed a livable wage died with our parents/grandparents
I have to really avoid social media related to tech almost entirely because everyone is complaining it’s hard or impossible and that stressed me out. It also bugs me a lot it always comes from people actively employed in the field… I did it, you can’t dont bother its too impossible is always how I have interpreted it. But if I gave up what would I do instead? … so I find trying to avoid all that content helps me stay productive and sane.
The thing that got me through learning was being part of an open source project where what I learned had real implications in the form of bug fixes or new features. Really helps to see the results of your work, even if its small.
Also helps when applying for a job to have a history of your evolution. Helped for me , almost 12 years later.
Also as a VFX professional I've been using adobe since the CS days.... Ever since creative cloud adobe apps have been trash. If its no After Effects, Premiere, Or photoshop its #worthless
Thank You! For your effort. Me and a lot of us who have been constantly supressed to have learned helplessness and imposed imposter syndrome really need to hear an expert like you gives the hope to not give up and muster perseverance and learn to ignore those who want to prevent us from making our dreams come true. I’m sure many of us will do amazing things with programming and some might even give real impactful contributions to society and its thanks to you and people like you the world will be grateful for
Great video man. I’ve been self teaching for the past 3 months and I needed to hear this
The dry spells in tech are harsh but short-lived... it's just part of the business cycle in USA. Get used to it and price in the dry-spells when times are good again.
I was thinking the same thing and I haven't even started yet. I recently started teaching myself how to code.
I have to agree 110% with you on continuing to self study. The market is ever changing and there will be times when the things will take a turn for the worse, however, it should not stop anyone from continuing to pursue their goal. Thank you for putting out this video.
I’ve been learning for a year. I’m not self taught but I enjoyed the video anyway. I don’t think I’m close to job ready so I enjoyed the encouragement to keep going. THANKS!
Thank you, Dorian, I needed that. been grinding now for six months sometimes it feels like I’m standing still, lol.
Taking a break from social media has helped increase my productive. All you need to do is remive the distractions and focus on your goals
often the tools people think would replace them are more used by developpers then non developpers
We don’t die we multiply😈
And a lot of companies won’t allow employees to use AI for data security reasons. Not to mention prompting an LLM with enough context to get what you need, if it requires any complexity at all, is basically impossible. It’s far too complex for any available model to do at this point
Self teaching is very difficult. I had to teach myself how to write assembly for an embedded programming assignment over the course of 1 weekend just to keep up with my class mates who are electrical engineering students when working on a computer engineering minor. They had a 2 month head start and I had to catch up fast.
i absolutely agree not just in IT but in any field and any other job you have to upgrade yourself you have to keep learning and exploring everyone wants to be entrepreneur but no one wants to put in work same for everyone wants to be a developer but no one wants to build anything, everyone wants easy way out, every job every business needs innovation and upskilling you people are worried about future you don't know worrying about unknown and holding your self back it sure shot way to failure and misery at least build something and fail you might learn something out of it. And just stop watching videos about day in a life of engineer , how to get 200k job offer etc
I'm currently working as a social worker (13years) but I would like to transition back into tech.I finished a software development course that was fairly cheap(less than $600). I will continue learning so that I will be ready when or if I get the opportunity. Like your content.
i have been watching you for about 2 months, you are doing good job man, i liked your advice previously about writing comments and md file, i was doing it with my last project, i really recognized the difference, and my code is getting more cleaner now
also, i really like how you are realistic about the market, you don't sell SHITS illusions, and you are not stick to you opinion
finally, i liked your lifestyle as a programmer, especially that we "programmers" sit all the fucking day, i already have a pain in my neck, i hitted to gym when i started following you and felt motivated 😂. also, i am willing to try that ice bath thing in the close future, i have started first with cold water each morning as a beginning, and it makes me more productive, and now i am drinking less coffee, can't wait to see ice bath effects
i just wrote you all of that cause i feel i should say thank you man, keep publishing good content out of all other SHITS that fills the youtube
With all respect, we KNOW that the job market will bounce back. Takes normally 2-5 years for a major recession to pass. We also KNOW that AI will take the job - the question is the timeline, which may go from 5 to 20 years, but you have to be quite stupid to assume it will not happen. And Devin is hardly a fraud - people just expect so much from it that it is not able to deliver - but what in 5 years?
But again, the future is extremely clear - but the timeline is always open for discussion.
I love your videos man!
I love you too!
Read dude 💯 thank you, Dorian. Great inspiration for a total beginner!
Thank you Dorian, you're a huge inspiration.
I fully respect the direction to make the content you want, but these are always my favorite videos from you.
You have inspired me to pursue this and replace my gaming addiction with coding.
Keep up the grind bro ❤
Thanks for the video, as someone who is trying to be self taught, this is very informative.
Just people who can adapt fast with the amazing tools that they have in the moment, will stay in this tough market! Natural selection.
I appreciate this a lot. I've been learning for the past couple months. Started with a python course, then learned web design and now javascript. I am struggling on the javascript course, but I still don't want to give up. I know at some point everything will click and I won't feel so lost about it anymore. I faced this same scenario learning python, as well as web design. So I just realized I am used to "failing", and maybe that's the best thing that's happened to me. Thank you for the rant, been watching you since before I even started coding!
keep grinding, pimp.
btw when you fall and get back up you're doing push ups. you're not failing you're getting swole.
P S Y C H O L O G Y 👊🏽
@@azmalguthek4502 Fall with style and people will think you're doing burpees. I like the cut of your jib.
If you like to work hard, the future looks great. Laziness rewards nothing.
Finaly the smoke has cleared. I'm going to learn how to code again. For now i have a job at a helpdesk to become well-rounded in the field
Not only that, but most business owners aren't even accustomed with using AI
Im on the tech art side of dev. In the last year, the job descriptions started listing c++ opengl dev on top of asset optimization, pipeline dev, and shader dev.
So the jobs have been disappearing and reappearing with more responsibilities and less chances that anyone is capable of doing the skills for work.
A programmer + cgi in one person is not common, add in c++ opengl engine dev with knowing like 10+ different cgi programs, and like 4 languages too?
Thank you so much for sharing your thoughts!
I personally think that the sizeable salaries software professionals have historically commanded is precisely why our jobs are in jeopardy. You're correct that the "no code" solutions haven't been able to replace actual developers but AI is different. AI is generative in nature which is going to lead to a "1000 monkeys pounding on typewriters" problem where the end user doesn't have to write code and/or be hyper technical in their specifications; you can just tell AI build me 10,000 websites, apps, or models overnight and the end user will just have to select one in the morning.
And none of them end up being good
this was no rant but one of the most honest opinions about today's tech landscape and realities self-taught developers would have to search the whole internet to find. thanks a lot!!!
As a self-taught engineer working in tech without a degree, it's easy to be hyperfocused on job security. But honestly, if you focus on improving your skills, credentials and network, you establish your own safety nets. Cheers to your goals 🍻
@DorianDevelops, do you have a video for a roadmap to follow when you learn to become a programmer, I know some programmers say that you should only learn the basics on not all of it because it becomes a rabbit hole and could easily get lost when just starting out, Is that true ?
I'm planning to make a video about that at the beginning of the year but the resource I'll be talking about is going to be roadmap.sh it has a lot of dev roadmaps laid out there for different paths you can take in software.
I recommend video from Angela Collier called "AI does not exist but it will ruin everything anyway" 👍
Nice to see you ❤
Love the attitude! People should never stop learning, regardless of how they do it.
Thanks for the videos, lots of takaways ❤
As someone who has been learning for the past almost 5 years and still haven't found a job I'm not letting anything get in my way of making it in this field
Im a soft dev but wear a hat of software quality assurance and many more. And also a self taught developer. But I did not stop their. I continue studying learning, I am more efficient Now as in Now when learning alone with AI on my Skills than before. With the help of AI it makes my learning more easy as well as AI add up to my skills, Im learning Python and developing my skills in Java as well as developing my skills as a Prompt Engineer. What motivates me more to learn right now is because of AI. Thanks to AI
Massive disagree on the statement - It was super easy to get a job in 2020. I did give interviews in hopes of switching companies as a 4 year exp developer and guess what, I never was successful in switching the company. It's a good thing I did all of that undercover.
Getting a job in the tech sector was ALWAYS difficult, is difficult and WILL BE difficult. There is no "golden time to get hired" in the tech sector.
Just my opinion bruh. Also, AI is trash and just a hype-train.
Never take him seriously, he's the saddest and desperate tech youtuber around. Most of his videos are negative and full of bs
@@martinjose9331 there is a fine line between being negative and being realistic and factual. Actually, if you operate on realistic base. you stand stronger in front the unknown
situations
@@j.shishani6808 Yes, there is. But bitching on youtube is not being realistic and factual. AI is a glorified search engine, pure hype to sell products and make people like this guy kick and scream that someday they will be replaced by it.
@@martinjose9331who are you talking about? Was the comment deleted?
@@martinjose9331 I’m 7 minutes in and this has been pretty much exclusively positive. If you have the grit to follow through with it you can absolutely do it
Turn down the noise. Nobody can live in constant worry.
I have been learning code since 2015, started working in 2017. It has been difficult and lonely. It still is hard but I've come too far to change industry.
This year I will specialize in front-end: HTML, CSS, JS (Angular/Typescript)ans master the hell out of it.
what I dont understand to big companies is that they outsource job to india and they get advertiser money from the USA.
they can't get better advertisers in india, which is crazy to me.
the government should do something .
I agree America first . Globalism is bad . American companies need to adopt nationalistic values at their core .
If they’re going to benefit in America they should support Americans.
Thanks Dorian. This add to my already made decision after wavering because of lay offs and AI. I finally realized that I simply enjoy writing code, learning new stuff on and on, creating things, solving problems. And I want, after several years of struggle, with pause/work periods interchanging , mostly because of lack of self esteem and darkness, to reach the goal and became software engineer working on ideas worth turning into reality. For that, I reluctantly 🥲 admit that my social skills need to be on much higher level as well as network of great, quality and positive people...
A lot of the tech companies are outsourcing without people's knowledge. I know people in Cebu where they recently got hired only for a $35,000 salary and no benefits lol.
I really don't know what to do. I want to keep learning software development, but once I see AI and it's current capabilities, I get discouraged and quit for a period of time. And then I get back to it when I see the potential in the industry. It's a never ending cycle.
same
YES! Especially with the Advent of Quantum Computing that will bring a New Tech Industrial Revolution! Keep Coding!@Dorian Develops
Thank you Dorian!
I'm thinking of doing Cyber Security, there should be some code in there too but I thought I'd do "2 for 1" kinda deal, where I work on my own - learning to code - and do Cyber Security for my bachelor.
Real as hell, as always.
What does "self-taught" really mean? That is the question. If you come from a heavy quantitative background where you already did a bit of computer programming - just not on an industrial grade codebase - do you still self describe as a self-taught?
Coding is not an evergreen profession that everyone that talks about it makes it out to be. It's not a good job. It's long hours in front of a computer, pay is being driven down by oversaturation. You're not going to make 6 figures anymore and you're going to be treated as a replacable cog.
Where should I switch then
This is my experience in tech too. And just wait til you hit your 50s and nobody will hire you. I think people are interested in tech because it's the last job you can maybe get into that pays okay and doesn't require a masters degree.
So many influencers are pushing tech because they make money from clicks and low effort courses they sell.
Definitely better than some super physical job where your pay caps off at $60k.
Stand for 12 hours a day in a hospital and then tell me about how bad sitting at a computer desk is.
4 years getting your degree is 1000 times better than 4 years listening to this king of youtubers
you are very straight forward thanks a lot!🙏
7:45 wait you DON'T know algorithms?
I'm a web developer bro...
So is it all just front end development?
I'm not teasing, I'm just so confused because I can make games, write custom shaders, ect but I can't get a single interview for the life of me.
I've released 20 games to steam, more than a dozen assets to unity and unreal marketplace, and the only people it impresses is the initial recruiters it seems, after that I just get no response.
If it wasn't for some family problems I would have gone to China for a interview a year ago and now I feel like I messed up, because no one is hiring.
Oh well, this is why I like your content. I know you're right.
@@TegridyMadeGames When you send job applications, you're getting filtered by tards. 99% of large companies, the people who do the hiring have no idea what they're doing and zero idea about the activities, skills and knowledge necessary to perform the job well.
You will find a job much, much easier by bringing that portfolio to areas where you can socially network and show people your portfolio that way as opposed to putting in apps that sit in an inbox to get ctrl+f'd by some sloppy pig.
Thanks Dorian, great thouhts! About nocode, it is pretty much serverless to me... guess what? serverless code runs on servers :D best jokes ever
A bit of a stretch to say getting a job in 2022 was so easy. It was easier (not really), but still wasn't easy.
Yes, its true. I agree in what he is saying.
As a beginner, I would caution using LLMs to learn how to code or help learn how to code. I agree they are just another tool, but imagine relying on LLMs to solve problems. Now, I have not experienced a technical interview yet, but I cannot imagine being able to use an LLM to solve a problem on the spot. Also, what if you do not understand what the generated code does or how/why it works? How are you going to debug or maintain it?
Decided going back to school makes the most sense. AI cant take my job if i keep making AI's to take other peoples job or make tools for ai tools. An ouroborous of abstraction keeps at least enough to afford to keep the hunger away
5 years with relationship to everyone’s time or uncle bobs time ?
Dont know if i should make a hitman agent 47 joke or a sinns joke 😂
Idk im just ignoring the noise and just cooking in the lab. The time will come for me.
I actually got interested in coding specifically cuz of AI
I see this as huge opportunity and AI will only get better
My main focus is mastering python/PyTorch/Machine learning and anything that’s connected to AI.
I do think learning c++ or jvs is waste of time in the age of Ai
Think about all the new computer chips, processing power and massive infrastructure that would have to change for all of this to happen. Programmers (real ones) aren't going anywhere. Sure jobs have been lost, but the demand is still there. Likely it will take much more time, several decades even before AI is going to replace engineers to that degree. AI is the new hype and yes there are tools, but they will help with productivity at a much more efficient level. When the economy returns, more jobs will pop up. Programmers should keep their skills sharp and focus on being better. New tech is coming as well.
Do you think AI / GTP 4 will Programmers disappear? Thanks.
Thank you
We are no more in correction phase we have already crossed correction phase.
How can we use AI to learn faster? I would appreciate a link or some info. I googled/youtubed it but I just get machine learning stuff. lol
The Biggest question I have been facing is should I still study Computer Science? I have been working in the industry for 5 years now as a full stack.
Everytime I look at job desciptions it says "computer science degree required" but my experience and stack more than fits the role. Is it worth the 4 years of books and exams?
if you have a master's degree in cs it's going to compensate for it
"DeViN iS GoInG tO RePlACe YoU"
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@@DorianDevelops joking, obviously. You're always right my guy. I hope to follow in your footsteps by leaving the US and living a different life.
Most "developers" or "programmers" are toddlers with a glue stick. You can recognise their "product" by the amount of external libraries they require to fill even the most basic requirements. Tjose can and will be replaced by whatever "AI" the next version of "AI" will be. As the old saying goes: When there's a goldrush, sell shovels. Or, to survive a zombie apocalypse you only need to run faster than the guy slower than you. Create original content or components and you're plenty safe.
It has never been easy to get a job as a developer. Otherwise, I agree with everything said here.
Is this Hitman? Agent 47 become self taught programmer?
PREACH!
Really value your thoughts, thank you Dorian, wish you all the best