*Copy & Paste of Video Description Text Box - Expand this text box to read the whole thing* It seems I have a bit of a dinking problem. I guess I’m just not cut out to be a professional dinker. We can’t all live the dinking dream. It’ll no doubt leave a big hole in my life. Dinker Tools on eBay (affiliated link) ebay.to/2QQuLt8 Yes, of course 'I’m doing it wrong', but this is just what happened when I gave it a go. Perhaps in the right hands these tools are capable of producing perfect results every time, but it seems my hands aren’t the right hands and maybe my old records are just too brittle. However even if they did work perfectly - _in my opinion_ they both take too long and risk damaging the records *Here is a video of a proper dinker **ua-cam.com/video/LkKV6H7O4Jo/v-deo.html* I've been advised by the nice people on Patreon that the first tool I used is actually something that was designed for punching holes in sheet metal - an example use for this tool was cutting a plug hole in a sink. ********************************************************************************* I'd like to state that *MY DINKING DAYS ARE OVER* - I just bought the Dinking tools to follow up the queries about dinking that were posted under the 1949 45s video. I've got no need to dink any more records so I've hung up my Dinkers to spend more time with my family. ********************************************************************************* MERCH! Overpriced Techmoan Merchandise link below - order now to get these delivered too late for Christmas teespring.com/stores/techmoan-merch --------------- SUBSCRIBE ------------------ ua-cam.com/users/Techmoan ------------- SUPPORT --------------- This channel can be supported through Patreon www.patreon.com/techmoan *******Patrons usually have early access to videos******* ---------- Outro Music ----------- Over Time - Vibe Tracks ua-cam.com/video/VSSswVZSgJw/v-deo.html ------ Outro Sound Effect ------ ThatSFXGuy - ua-cam.com/video/5M3-ZV5-QDM/v-deo.html ------ AFFILIATED LINKS/ADVERTISING NOTICE ------- All links are Affiliated where possible. When you click on links to various merchants posted here and make a purchase, this can result in me earning a commission. Affiliate programs and affiliations include, but are not limited to, the eBay Partner Network & Amazon. I am a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for sites to earn advertising fees by advertising and linking to AMAZON Sites (including, but not limited to Amazon US/UK/DE/ES/FR/NL/IT/CAN) FAQs Q) Why the background music A) Unfortunately the microphone was picking up some unpleasant asthmatic wheezing whenever I wasn’t speaking - so in editing I muted the audio in these sections. Unfortunately this made the video sound odd every time the sound cut out entirely. So I added background music off an old BGM system to cover up the abrupt audio level changes. It was either this - or delete the whole video and forget about it. Q) Why does the BGM continue over the end credits A) Total ineptitude Q) Why didn’t/don’t you (insert suggestion here) A) See section above where I mentioned how I’ll never need or want to dink another record. I only bought these dinking tools to do a video about dinking. I don’t generally play singles - other than these fifty scratched up 45s I bought via ebay for £10, I haven’t got any I’ve bought for listening to for pleasure. Q) Did you know the rubber bits come off that vice A) I didn’t, but I do now PFAQ (Predicted FAQ) Q) Why is there a picture of a cheese sandwich on screen at the beginning? A) A while ago on Patreon I coined the phrase ‘A cheese sandwich video’ to describe a simple video that’s exactly what it is and nothing more - just like a cheese sandwich is a sandwich containing cheese. A cheese sandwich video is simpler video that doesn’t take weeks to assemble. It’s usually a brief demonstration of one item. If you see a cheese sandwich image pop up at the start of a video - it's a sign to expect a less complicated and elaborate video. Sometimes all a product needs (or deserves) is a simple demonstration - and that’s where the ‘cheese sandwich‘ video comes in.
Damn. That is a seriously funny comment. LOL. And that’s rare for me. Oh, the humanity. I didn’t watch to see if it was in the scrolling comments at end of the video.
That's a great sales pitch: "Don't send your records to me. I will ruin them." Just write up a business plan, and watch the cash flow in! Thanks. That was a fun video.
These infernal tools must have been made either by vinyl enthusiasts without any knowledge of engineering or by engineers without any knowledge of vinyl records.
Very interesting! I can answer your question about the size of the bolt in the first dinking tool. That tool is actually a very cheap version "conduit knockout punch" designed for making holes in the sheet-metal enclosures of electrical circuit breaker boxes or other electrical boxes. The bolt is strong enough to pull the knockout tool through steel, so it was engineered for that level of force. Look up greenlee knockout punch and you can see these in all sizes. The better ones have a ball bearing to assist with the ease of operation. We use the same stepped-drill bit as you have, for making the initial hole.
Was going to say the same. The I borrowed to do 2 holes didn't have the a bearing, but a drop of oil between the Allen key head and the washer made it so much easier to turn. A tool which rotates and cuts the material is a far better idea.
New Kids on the Chopping Block... :D Excellent humor! If the black one had a smaller screw and handle or grip on both sides, it might actually work. For the silver one, maybe put two holes through the label and use them to peg the record down.
I remember seeing some 7” singles in Australia [Which used the small hole], that had a cut out in them. So you could just press and snap out the centre.
Sure, I was just speaking in general terms regarding what David said, having the hole filled to size being easier than needing to cut a bigger one out. Cheers.
The best part about this video is imagining the vinyl fans going apoplectic as you put it down on wood, sanded it, missed the middle etc and everything else. But for me... awesome video! I was literally in hysterics crying as I watched 😂😂
I see the Laura Branigan self control record. I remember my father getting upset about the video, saying "people don't smile much in these videos, do they"?
I was laughing the entire video as you butchered records. Mostly because some old school vinyl aficionados will be cringing through this. Gold, absolute gold!
My Mum watched this with me. She knew going in the records would be of no loss whatsoever and it still made her squeamish. She used to run a record shop, you see. "There's just some things you don't do to vinyl." She said. And, "but we've seen him doing things that can't be unseen." I've sat her down with a nice hot cup of tea to get over it.
@@asbestosfibers1325 Oh, my...have we gone from good-natured ribbing to unwarranted personal commentary? I don't know that there's ever a place for a comment like that, but this certainly isn't it.
@@asbestosfibers1325 It's not your place to be telling other people how to live their lives, sir, and if you mistake your rude behavior for "strength"...not much hope for you then, is there?
In the U.S., a dink is one of the little people who follows Yogurt on the desert moon of Vega. _"Merchandising! Merchandising! Where the real money from the movie is made."_
@@gwishart Dink is the kind of penis word that you'd expect a kid to say. Same thing with weiner. Some words for it I just can't take seriously when an adult says it.
I love techmoan videos - especially (but not only) for his engaging and friendly personality! Great documentary series! I also appreciate the technical quality of the video and editing.
I've been desensitized by Scholagladiatoria's content. He's talking about "gripping the butt" for "better penetration". Context (which is also a word he loves): It's the butt of a rifle, which you can grip if you're using the bayonet on it to get to get better penetration into an enemy and cause more damage and making them stop trying to fight you.
@@Riskteven The moment music of the backstreet boys becomes "valuable", is the moment mankind should seriously consider mass-suicide as civilization has obviously already ceased to exist.
@@Riskteven I agree that music is a matter of taste, and different people have different tastes, but there is some kind of "music" that violates the Geneva convention and should thus be outlawed, just like land mines
I love your videos and I'm going through all of them :P As for the reason the first dinking tool has a shaft larger than the average disc hole I've got the answer: is a repurposed sheet metal hole puncher, made to slot in your average pre-drilled holes
Don't dink and dive at any time of year! As for drink driving (because there's an r in the month!), perhaps a little drink might have steadied Mat's hands a bit. There were no screwdrivers in this video so he wouldn't haven fallen foul of the law.
I cannot be the only one who has realized that he is showing us his Hewlett Packard-01 watch now in silver. A wonderful piece of engineering even more gorgeous in silver. Nice trickery.
The first tool is a pre-existing device for making neat holes in metal, hence the too big bolt. I would use a hole saw on a drill to be honest. It would be much quicker too. 🙂👍
I was going to disagree due to the mess, but as it seems neither of those existing devices are remotely designed for the job either, a hole saw bit is certainly no worse. Anything purpose designed I'd expect to simply punch the record without leaving any random bits of vinyl lying around.
@@SegaDream131 The problem wasn't with the punch, it was with the use of the stepped drill to enlarge the hole. That goes off-centre and so does the punch.
Actually the hole wouldn't be missing. The center of the record would be missing. Well maybe the small hole that used to be there would be gone but then... nevermind.
I came here to post your same comment. Yup. Someone sold him a tool to make a knockout for electrical conduit connectors. I've used that exact tool. Ha ha.
I did not know what this video was when I clicked on "DInking" , happy to see it was yours . The first dinker is just a hole saw, nothing fancy quite common. I used to use them to put holes in homemade project boxes with plasitc or Aluminum boxes as cabines. The second one you need A block of wood with a hole that the dinker fits down snugly into and you need to work from BOTH sides of the record. Maybe you should just quit dinking? You make so many other things look so easy when I know they are not.
7:49 - The sight of you attacking that thing with a piece of sandpaper just cracked me up. I was in stitches. 😀 I wouldn't want to attack any of my vinyl with either of those weapons of mass destruction. 😄 ... As always, brilliantly tongue-in-cheek, Matt. Thanks
the first device is used on electrical junction boxes for making bigger wholes for cables. the second one probably would work better with a cordless drill
and the bolt doesn't fit because it's metric and the centre of a '45 is probably imperial (old english)? I just googled it and it's 9/32" for a 12" and presumably the same for a 7" from the UK. The large 7" holes are ~37mm or 1.46" and can be up to 38.5mm or ~1.5".
3:34 because it's not something a guy has made specifically for this purpose. If it was sold as a dinker then most likely he's just bought it and inflated the price to make a quick profit. What you have there my good sir, is a hole punch for sheet metal.
A buddy of mine tried that once, boiling down an old 78 to get the pure alcohol out. It didn't end well. He forgot you're supposed to cut it heavily and just downed the resulting 1/2 ounce of alcohol in one shot. He blacked out and woke up two days later with no memory of what happened, but his apartment was trashed and he was jammed into the 8 inch space between his bed and the wall.
@@vintageyamahasquid I wasn't personally witness, but he's the kind of guy that get's himself into enough weird situations that he doesn't really need to make them up, so I'm inclined to believe it was a more or less factual story, yes.
Aw man, i didn't. I just had my sister, who was in love with them, playing them over and OVER and _OVER_ and *over!* Every morning during school holidays and weekends bloody waking me up. And as a result i could sing along to any of their songs at a second's notice perfectly. Not a skill that has added any value to my life so far.
@@greenaum Maybe you're fated to achieve youtube fame doing death metal covers of their songs. ...wait is there someone who already has that niche covered?
And it might have worked too, if it weren't for those meddling ki... er, I mean, if he had taken a moment to find a snugly fitting drill bit instead of a stepped bit from China.
Self isolating and have just found this channel really enjoying it. I seem to remember on some early 45s there was a centre that was removable and was often falling out or am I imagining this. The devices you have tested appear very crude and am not surprised you found them difficult to use. The other ones on UA-cam looked brutal as well. A fly cutter on a pillar drill or the record fixed to the face plate of a lathe would work but you would have to think of some way to clamp the outer bit of the label to support the record once you had cut through.
I am an electrician and a similar tool we used to use was called a Qumax cuter they used to make 20mm and 25mm holes out of trunking to connecting trunking.
Here in Australia, the record-industry simply made singles with a small hole for a standard record-player, but they also had a dinking-perforation which enabled the purchaser to easily dink it themselves by pushing out the larger disc for playing in a juke-box!
I used to work as an engineer for a company years ago that did jukeboxes in pubs around Manchester and Liverpool, I think they still do. We used to have to dink hundreds of 7” singles every week for the collectors to update the sites when they visited to empty the cash boxes. We used a dinker very much like the one you first used in the video. Not sure if it had been modified but it fitted through the hole without having to do any drilling. You then placed the dinker on the workbench with the record in place and then whacked the top of the dinker with a lump hammer. The trick was to soften the plastic by running a cigarette lighter flame around the area of the cut. Splitting the record, as you did, was quite common but the boss wouldn’t be happy if you f**ked up too many. The job was normally given to the YTS or tea boy as it really was a tedious job. Brought back happy memories. One Christmas a lady bought an old vinyl jukebox for her husband’s den or ‘man cave’. We gave it a full refurb. She then brought his collection of favourite 7” singles to be dinked and loaded onto the jukebox before we delivered it on Christmas Eve. Not sure if he ever noticed that some of his favourite songs were missing as the dinker had eaten them but I do remember getting a decent tip when we delivered it and then drove away quickly.
I've used exactly that one, they are actually rubber (they melt super easily) and if you remove them you'll just damage whatever you try to put in it. Wouldn't matter in this case though
The T-Handle dinker that you bought works perfectly well if you use it correctly. A friend made one of these for me in the company workshop. To get a nice clean hole, you have to work from BOTH SIDES of the disc. You CANNOT cut a clean hole from one side. Start off one side, and cut half way through. Then turn he disc over and do the same from the other side. When the cuts meet, you'll have a nice clean hole, which may only need minor cleaning up with a bit of sandpaper. Also, I find that when cutting through a paper label, it's best if you start turning the cutter the "wrong" way. This perforates the paper tidily, so that when you start cuting "proper" you don't get a raggy paper centre.
Hi, That first hole cutter is called a Q-MAX cutter, they come in many sizes and are designed to cut / punch holes in sheet steel, like in a car body to fit an aerial.As they were not designed for dinking 45s the bolt size is not designed to fit the centre hole, hence the need for a tapered drill bit.
I think the 1st dinker doesn't fit the hole because it wasn't made to be a 'dinker'; it just looks like a panel cutter that's made to make holes about the size needed. Unfortunately that off the shelf tool uses a larger bolt than will fit in the existing hole. As for the off center, I'm guessing you may have made a slightly larger than necessary hole using that stepped drill bit. That allowed the dinker's bolt to shift slightly to a side resulting in the wobble when played. Just guessing, it was fun watching you mangle those records. :-)
Go to love Ebay. That first one is a standard Sheet metal cutter ! Been around for many years lol That is why it has a large bolt. Second a variant of an adjustable hole cutter. I have over a dozen which I use for making holes in cases and cabinets of various electronic and electrical jobs.. Personally I have in the past, use a standard wood hole saw with the drill replaced by an appropriate diameter bar. Works well.
"I felt a great disturbance in the Force, as if millions of voices suddenly cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced. I fear something terrible has happened."
One of those voices was mine... True, I was screaming at my screen a collection of words that were understandably not to be used in civilized society. In fact my cats and dogs must have left the area sadly. When I gave it the o'le 👎.. Well I felt better and started to read and 👍 the comments.. First it was a chuckle and a snicker that I wasn't alone in my vision of a serial record mutalation person.. As I kept reading laughing escalated into uncontrollable fits of uproarious gales of laughter with loss of vision and breath.. I have not honestly laughed that hard or that long in over 30 years.. It was so good I subscribed just to see another test like this and relish the reading of comments and replys.. I have no shame..obviously 😂
I was really impressed by your impression of those muppets you have at the end of your videos sometimes, it was spot one, well done!! #howisthatevenpossible
not sure it's been mentioned, but the first tool you're using is made for punching holes in metal chassis, like for tube amplifiers, likely why the bolt doesn't fit through a standard record hole.
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It seems I have a bit of a dinking problem.
I guess I’m just not cut out to be a professional dinker. We can’t all live the dinking dream. It’ll no doubt leave a big hole in my life.
Dinker Tools on eBay (affiliated link)
ebay.to/2QQuLt8
Yes, of course 'I’m doing it wrong', but this is just what happened when I gave it a go.
Perhaps in the right hands these tools are capable of producing perfect results every time, but it seems my hands aren’t the right hands and maybe my old records are just too brittle. However even if they did work perfectly - _in my opinion_ they both take too long and risk damaging the records
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I've been advised by the nice people on Patreon that the first tool I used is actually something that was designed for punching holes in sheet metal - an example use for this tool was cutting a plug hole in a sink.
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I'd like to state that *MY DINKING DAYS ARE OVER* - I just bought the Dinking tools to follow up the queries about dinking that were posted under the 1949 45s video. I've got no need to dink any more records so I've hung up my Dinkers to spend more time with my family.
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FAQs
Q) Why the background music
A) Unfortunately the microphone was picking up some unpleasant asthmatic wheezing whenever I wasn’t speaking - so in editing I muted the audio in these sections. Unfortunately this made the video sound odd every time the sound cut out entirely. So I added background music off an old BGM system to cover up the abrupt audio level changes. It was either this - or delete the whole video and forget about it.
Q) Why does the BGM continue over the end credits
A) Total ineptitude
Q) Why didn’t/don’t you (insert suggestion here)
A) See section above where I mentioned how I’ll never need or want to dink another record. I only bought these dinking tools to do a video about dinking. I don’t generally play singles - other than these fifty scratched up 45s I bought via ebay for £10, I haven’t got any I’ve bought for listening to for pleasure.
Q) Did you know the rubber bits come off that vice
A) I didn’t, but I do now
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Q) Why is there a picture of a cheese sandwich on screen at the beginning?
A) A while ago on Patreon I coined the phrase ‘A cheese sandwich video’ to describe a simple video that’s exactly what it is and nothing more - just like a cheese sandwich is a sandwich containing cheese.
A cheese sandwich video is simpler video that doesn’t take weeks to assemble. It’s usually a brief demonstration of one item.
If you see a cheese sandwich image pop up at the start of a video - it's a sign to expect a less complicated and elaborate video. Sometimes all a product needs (or deserves) is a simple demonstration - and that’s where the ‘cheese sandwich‘ video comes in.
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The first tool is normally used to cut through thin sheet metal.
and the rubber jaws on the vise are removable by sliding them up.
@techmoan Hey, What is that data signal noise on the audio at the end of every video you make?
What's the background filler music you've used? Weird to hear filler music in your videos at all, but not unwelcome!
All records were harmed in the making of this video.
No records were (properly) dinked in the making of this video
Damn. That is a seriously funny comment. LOL. And that’s rare for me. Oh, the humanity.
I didn’t watch to see if it was in the scrolling comments at end of the video.
But at least, no animals have been injured by this movie ... ^^
Nothing was done properly in the making of this video!
Vinyl fans: Don't touch the grooves!
Techmoan: Brings out sand-paper and a brick ;)
Vinyl fans: Don't touch the grooves!
Turntablists: ok bro.
The End.
Of the world
π-ШТО as we know it....
It reminds me of Steve Wallis's 'bushcrafting' with lighter fluid and chainsaws. 😂
New Block On The kids
Vinyl fans pass out.
"Tastes like product placement" was the classiest way ever to promote your merchandise. Well done sir.
Couldn't *not* notice the mug.
"Laura Branigan - Self Control"
"Not a valuable record"
Ouch. That hurt.
Glad I wasn't the only one who thought so. Lol
Yes same here 😢
Now I want to play Vice City...
Definitely my favorite song of those included.
That is a really good record. The surface of that record didnt look bad either...shame.
2:24 man, Mat is remarkably good at imitating the muppet's voice!
2:21 "oh no, he's holding the record by the grooves".
Techmoan became the puppets for a second. Love it.
That's a great sales pitch: "Don't send your records to me. I will ruin them." Just write up a business plan, and watch the cash flow in! Thanks. That was a fun video.
Just don't get Techmoan to make your video for a Kickstarter project.
Next week: "I've only gone and bought myself a laser cutter."
Or olfa circle cutter
Then he can make another follow-up video where he dinks a CD.
It's too bad that laserdiscs come pre-dinked, maybe he could try a CED instead?
Very expensive
I've gone and bought a chainsaw and a bottle of WD-40
@@artcraft2893 Which is the basic design of the second type of hole cutter, but a rather crude, non-adjustable and very overpriced form.
These infernal tools must have been made either by vinyl enthusiasts without any knowledge of engineering or by engineers without any knowledge of vinyl records.
They are existing tools for other purposes
So basically dumb morons.
Very interesting! I can answer your question about the size of the bolt in the first dinking tool. That tool is actually a very cheap version "conduit knockout punch" designed for making holes in the sheet-metal enclosures of electrical circuit breaker boxes or other electrical boxes. The bolt is strong enough to pull the knockout tool through steel, so it was engineered for that level of force. Look up greenlee knockout punch and you can see these in all sizes. The better ones have a ball bearing to assist with the ease of operation. We use the same stepped-drill bit as you have, for making the initial hole.
This was my first thought as soon as he showed the tool. Great for malleable materials like steel, not so much for brittle plastic.
Was going to say the same. The I borrowed to do 2 holes didn't have the a bearing, but a drop of oil between the Allen key head and the washer made it so much easier to turn. A tool which rotates and cuts the material is a far better idea.
"Techmoan plays with his dinker" is a totally missed opportunity for a video title.
"Techmoan experiments with two different dinkers but is left unsatisfied by both."
Tight holes reamed out by dinkers (amateur)
That first "Dinker" looks exactly like a electrical panel hole punch. That's why the bolt is too large.
Known as a Q Max cutter - great for sheet metal, not so good for plastic.
Yeah, it's definitely not made for dinking. Pretty much a scam.
i thought so too. Greenlee chassis punch. This looks alarmingly like one of those. I hope Techmoan didn't get ripped off.
Exacly what I was going to write
Yes, that's right, i thought i had seen one before!
New Kids on the Chopping Block... :D
Excellent humor! If the black one had a smaller screw and handle or grip on both sides, it might actually work. For the silver one, maybe put two holes through the label and use them to peg the record down.
I remember seeing some 7” singles in Australia [Which used the small hole], that had a cut out in them. So you could just press and snap out the centre.
Yup, same here in México.
Yea, I've got some way down under here in "Noo Zee land" aka New Zealand....
Same here in the UK a bunch of the old 78s started to ship with dinked holes already but had an insert with them to clip in and play on a regular TT.
Me too, on a variety of 45's. I'm in Australia but I'm sure it'd be done in the US too.
All of my uk import singles from the 60s have those
Secret: in America, we actually add in the plastic bits you blokes are trying to remove! We've all been duped!
Some of mine have the push out spiders in the middle. From England.
I think we got the better deal with that often included adapter we drop in on standard turntables though.
@@WR3ND I had that too. It came with a national Panasonic stereo outfit.
Sure, I was just speaking in general terms regarding what David said, having the hole filled to size being easier than needing to cut a bigger one out. Cheers.
@@WR3ND 👍
I like that you show your mistakes as well. A lot of UA-cam channels only show things that work flawlessly.
Oy, what'd you do today?
Well I watched a middle-aged British chap dink New Kids On The Block.
Wot?
In the end, he said it was too tight.
The best part about this video is imagining the vinyl fans going apoplectic as you put it down on wood, sanded it, missed the middle etc and everything else.
But for me... awesome video! I was literally in hysterics crying as I watched 😂😂
Zipplet I know! 😁😁
@@ZippletTech The plural of vinyl fan is vinyl fan
He _warned_ them.
I hate you!
It looked like a vinyl horror movie
I see the Laura Branigan self control record. I remember my father getting upset about the video, saying "people don't smile much in these videos, do they"?
I love imagining someone out there watching you do this and cringing hard.
It's a comforting thought.
I was laughing the entire video as you butchered records. Mostly because some old school vinyl aficionados will be cringing through this. Gold, absolute gold!
I thought cutting holes in records sounded like a bad idea, but it turns out to be far worse than I'd even imagined.
My Mum watched this with me. She knew going in the records would be of no loss whatsoever and it still made her squeamish. She used to run a record shop, you see. "There's just some things you don't do to vinyl." She said. And, "but we've seen him doing things that can't be unseen." I've sat her down with a nice hot cup of tea to get over it.
@@asbestosfibers1325 So should we all be.
Good thing she didn't see us using them as frisbee's back in the 90's then, lol.
@@asbestosfibers1325 Oh, my...have we gone from good-natured ribbing to unwarranted personal commentary? I don't know that there's ever a place for a comment like that, but this certainly isn't it.
@@asbestosfibers1325 Eh?
@@asbestosfibers1325 It's not your place to be telling other people how to live their lives, sir, and if you mistake your rude behavior for "strength"...not much hope for you then, is there?
In Australia to "dink" is to give someone a ride on the front of your bicycle :) I don't know what we call destroying records though.
In the U.S., a dink is one of the little people who follows Yogurt on the desert moon of Vega.
_"Merchandising! Merchandising! Where the real money from the movie is made."_
According to the OED, it's also slang for a penis. But that seems to be case for every third noun in the OED, lexicographers have filthy minds.
@@gwishart Dink is the kind of penis word that you'd expect a kid to say. Same thing with weiner. Some words for it I just can't take seriously when an adult says it.
@@Christopher-N Space balls the flame thrower - the kids really like this one
Progress?
I love techmoan videos - especially (but not only) for his engaging and friendly personality! Great documentary series! I also appreciate the technical quality of the video and editing.
"Let's dink New Kids on the Block." "Oh, it's too tight!"
The members of your fanclub have dirty minds and plenty of room for innuendo.
Which endo, exactly?
❤👍😁
I've been desensitized by Scholagladiatoria's content. He's talking about "gripping the butt" for "better penetration".
Context (which is also a word he loves):
It's the butt of a rifle, which you can grip if you're using the bayonet on it to get to get better penetration into an enemy and cause more damage and making them stop trying to fight you.
Nah by the time they got to be a successful boy band too tight wouldn't be anything to worry about. They'll have had arses like old windsocks.
@@greenaum We didn't have to go there, did we?
"Dinkin' Ain't Easy" - Techmoan 2019
It's hard out there for a dink.
Dinkin’ ain’t easy, but it’s necessary
@@Riskteven
The moment music of the backstreet boys becomes "valuable", is the moment mankind should seriously consider mass-suicide as civilization has obviously already ceased to exist.
@@Riskteven He ran out of records?
@@Riskteven I agree that music is a matter of taste, and different people have different tastes, but there is some kind of "music" that violates the Geneva convention and should thus be outlawed, just like land mines
Roll a phatty for big daddy, 'cause dinking ain't easy!
When using the second type of cutter, cut half depth then turn over and cut from the other side. You will get a massively better result.
I think usually you don't even go through the whole way, just score both sides deeply and pop the center out.
I think every person should study engineering or manufacturing it really changes the way you think about things
More like a marginally less terrible result.
I had the same thought. But if you have seen any of his other videos, he isn't a klutz.
part of the problem is the cutters only on one side, making it very hard to keep the tool vertical, it keeps wanting to cant off to one side
I love your videos and I'm going through all of them :P
As for the reason the first dinking tool has a shaft larger than the average disc hole I've got the answer: is a repurposed sheet metal hole puncher, made to slot in your average pre-drilled holes
You mauled that Laura Branigan record. I'm a tad miffed.
Not as miffed as my coworker, Gloria, who I made a habit of poking fun of with lyrics to a different song.
Remember everyone at this time of year don't Dink and Dive
his Vice made of rubber, So is his condoms made of foil?
@@ewmegoolies Vise
And don't let a fiend dive dunk
Don't dink and dive at any time of year!
As for drink driving (because there's an r in the month!), perhaps a little drink might have steadied Mat's hands a bit. There were no screwdrivers in this video so he wouldn't haven fallen foul of the law.
@@quantumleap359 Vice
I cannot be the only one who has realized that he is showing us his Hewlett Packard-01 watch now in silver. A wonderful piece of engineering even more gorgeous in silver.
Nice trickery.
The first tool is a pre-existing device for making neat holes in metal, hence the too big bolt. I would use a hole saw on a drill to be honest. It would be much quicker too. 🙂👍
I was going to disagree due to the mess, but as it seems neither of those existing devices are remotely designed for the job either, a hole saw bit is certainly no worse.
Anything purpose designed I'd expect to simply punch the record without leaving any random bits of vinyl lying around.
@@alexatkin
I would be more concerned about the records cracking and splitting when using a hole saw.
Hole saws are messy and leave jagged edges.....
If he used the tool correctly he would have had far better results....
Oil your punches......
Pull the t-handle off that second one, list it into the chuck and use it as the "hole saw"
@@SegaDream131 The problem wasn't with the punch, it was with the use of the stepped drill to enlarge the hole. That goes off-centre and so does the punch.
I'm pretty sure I have that Laura Branigan Self Control single somewhere handy. I mean it's not Gloria but still, Love!
“They’d come back with the holes missing in the middle” had me chuckling like an idiot for good 5 minutes.
Actually the hole wouldn't be missing. The center of the record would be missing. Well maybe the small hole that used to be there would be gone but then... nevermind.
I appreciate living in a world where bags of doughnut holes are a real thing.
I'd like to buy a box of holes.📦
@@brendancarlson1678 You could find out how many of them are in Albert Hall. Maybe....
Quantum Leap deserves more likes.
This explains Lard's vinyl collection in Mark & Lard's Classic Cuts on their old Radio 1 show.
Mark: Is it rare?
Lard: In that condition yeah.
When I first read the video title, I thought, "It's finally happened, he's gone mad!"
He's simply reselling an electrician's hole-cutter. The hole in the record is too small, hence the drill bit.
The technical term is "Knockout punch."
Just get an Arbor job done 😂🍺😉
I came here to post your same comment. Yup. Someone sold him a tool to make a knockout for electrical conduit connectors.
I've used that exact tool. Ha ha.
Funny, I was going to say I have that exact same conduit punch. Came in a set with three otherr sizes.
Favourite brand was Q-Max. Q-Max punch.
Looks like someone picked up an electrician's tool , found it to be the right size for the job and sold it as a dinker for record
And put quite a price on that idea....
Yea the first one is a knockout, used them many times putting up panels
@@DrKlausTrophobie McMaster-Carr has a number of models at about that price, not clear which one it is so kind of hard to say for sure.
Good quality knockout tools are pricey already though
Sometimes called a chassis punch...
I did not know what this video was when I clicked on "DInking" , happy to see it was yours . The first dinker is just a hole saw, nothing fancy quite common. I used to use them to put holes in homemade project boxes with plasitc or Aluminum boxes as cabines. The second one you need A block of wood with a hole that the dinker fits down snugly into and you need to work from BOTH sides of the record. Maybe you should just quit dinking? You make so many other things look so easy when I know they are not.
"It's My Party", by Dave Stewart and Barbara Gaskin, is a great record. I have a 12 inch version somewhere.
Yeah when I saw that I must admit I thought it was a shame.
I read, “drink a record” and saw the sandwich and figured I was in for a food episode.
When the weather is cold, and the nights are drawing in, there's nothing better than a nice hot mug of melted vinyl!
@@caitthenerd7470 You did my day
Seeing him do the puppet voice in front of the camera jarred me so hard at first
I thought "Dink" was the name of that puppet!
@@LarryTalbot_1313 Dink Moan?
@@epicoxtra3739. Exactly!
@@LarryTalbot_1313 works for me :)
that new kids on the block record sure was hangin' tough.
I work in a pressing plant, we have a small electric flywheel press for dinking 7". It's fun dinking everything in sight.
7:49 - The sight of you attacking that thing with a piece of sandpaper just cracked me up. I was in stitches. 😀 I wouldn't want to attack any of my vinyl with either of those weapons of mass destruction. 😄 ... As always, brilliantly tongue-in-cheek, Matt. Thanks
"Let's dink New Kids on the Block"
I'd rather dink the Spice Girls.
Let’s not and say we did.
@@Not-Great-at-Gaming
The Spice girls ? They must all be around 60 by now ... brrrr
@@frankschneider6156 They're in their 40s actually, Bunton is 43
...interpol will be to your residence momentarily.
the first device is used on electrical junction boxes for making bigger wholes for cables. the second one probably would work better with a cordless drill
It also looks like something you would use to make a hole in a stainless steel kitchen sink, to install a tap.
and the bolt doesn't fit because it's metric and the centre of a '45 is probably imperial (old english)?
I just googled it and it's 9/32" for a 12" and presumably the same for a 7" from the UK. The large 7" holes are ~37mm or 1.46" and can be up to 38.5mm or ~1.5".
You mean holes.
Its called a knockout punch
Yes, cordless drill or even better a drill press.
Here since 120k i cant wait till 1 million. You are ny hero.
great video as ever - from memory the first dink tool really meant for cutting holes in sheet metal from my apprenticeship days
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Always nice to have a dink with my cheese sandwich.
3:34 because it's not something a guy has made specifically for this purpose. If it was sold as a dinker then most likely he's just bought it and inflated the price to make a quick profit. What you have there my good sir, is a hole punch for sheet metal.
I misread it as "Drinking Records"
I was very very confused
"Where were you thinking of putting the rabbits?"
"In the vice, Father"
That's funny, is that from a movie or something?
@@CaesarBest It's from the television programme "Father Ted", specifically episode six of the second series: "The Plague".
@@gwishart Oh cheers
I simply use a hole cutter on a cordless drill.
Comes out perfect 👌
We need a sticker now "Home dinking is killing music"
I clicked on this because I thought it said "How not to DRINK a record."
A buddy of mine tried that once, boiling down an old 78 to get the pure alcohol out. It didn't end well. He forgot you're supposed to cut it heavily and just downed the resulting 1/2 ounce of alcohol in one shot. He blacked out and woke up two days later with no memory of what happened, but his apartment was trashed and he was jammed into the 8 inch space between his bed and the wall.
@@JeremyLevi wait, are you serious?
@@vintageyamahasquid I wasn't personally witness, but he's the kind of guy that get's himself into enough weird situations that he doesn't really need to make them up, so I'm inclined to believe it was a more or less factual story, yes.
"If you want your records "dinking" don't ask me to do it." So funny.
Dave Stewart/Barbara Gaskin - Waiting in the Wings is the song that was tested and was off center
Ha! Great stuff.
I've got one of thise Stanley vices. The rubber covers just pop straight off to reveal metal grips.
"I Dink Alone" - George Thorogood
Certainly a Destroyer of vinyl, these tools...
@@asbestosfibers1325 Each to there own
"You'll Never Dink Alone" - Liverpool FC fans.
After this hack job, gonna need one bourbon, one scotch, and one beer
@@asbestosfibers1325 Well you're entitled to your opinion, but you sure as hell weren't picking up what i was laying down with that comment...
“Let me grab some sandpaper” - lol :-)
Funny enough when I was a kid I remember hearing all the teenage girls talking about how they wanted to 'dink' the new kids on the block.
Aw man, i didn't. I just had my sister, who was in love with them, playing them over and OVER and _OVER_ and *over!*
Every morning during school holidays and weekends bloody waking me up. And as a result i could sing along to any of their songs at a second's notice perfectly. Not a skill that has added any value to my life so far.
@@greenaum Maybe you're fated to achieve youtube fame doing death metal covers of their songs.
...wait is there someone who already has that niche covered?
I had no idea so many young women in the 80s got into vinyl records and cutting them correctly in order to play them on their American jukeboxes.
I just bought a record that was dinked but it’s now fitted with a clip to make it fit a standard record player with no 45 adapter. nice video!
I can easily say this is the best dinking related video I have ever watched.
People in the UK with an antique Wurlitzer who only have 45s with the small hole. Finally you focus on the everyday problem of the masses lol.
People in the former USSR have the same problem. So technically Techmoan solves international problems!
No, we had the small holes where I live also
First world problems. LOL
@@GURken In Soviet Russia, records dink you
@@RCAvhstape That's what happens when you play frisbee with them and you catch it with your face.
The bolt doesn’t fit through the spindle hole because it’s just an off the shelf chassis punch meant for punching sheet metal.
That explains a lot, the robbing bastards!
And it might have worked too, if it weren't for those meddling ki... er, I mean, if he had taken a moment to find a snugly fitting drill bit instead of a stepped bit from China.
I initially read the title as "How not to drink a record."
dangerousmythbuster glad I’m not the only one
Yep, same here. 😆
Self isolating and have just found this channel really enjoying it. I seem to remember on some early 45s there was a centre that was removable and was often falling out or am I imagining this. The devices you have tested appear very crude and am not surprised you found them difficult to use. The other ones on UA-cam looked brutal as well. A fly cutter on a pillar drill or the record fixed to the face plate of a lathe would work but you would have to think of some way to clamp the outer bit of the label to support the record once you had cut through.
What about a step down drill bit, or the bits used for cutting for door knob holes?
Reported for cruelty to vinyl record. ;-)
BTW Today's motto is Duke NUkem's: "I'll rip you a new one!"
Missed opportunity to not test this on an Engelbert Humperdink 45.
I’ll get my coat...
Please release me and let me live again...after that awful joke.😒
It wouldn't work out for a dinking test, even a good dink would sound awfully.
Englebert Humperdinker?
@@williamjones4483 A singer
Elton John is still alive, he might even enjoy being dinked.
"Get em back with the holes missing out the middle". Brilliant. Remember when you could buy packs of Polo mint holes?
this is one of the most enjoyable videos
I have that vice and you can remove the rubber grips, I did that a long time ago.
"Dinking ain't easy" but it's necessary
so I'm dinkin' records...and results are scary
I originally read the video title as "Masterclass in bad drinking"
I won't be surprised if I wasn't the only one to initially misread the title as "How not to drink a record".
0:02 Cheese sandwich mode… here we go…
oh yeah :D
that's more of a nilered thing.
The first "dinker" you used. Is a tool i use to make holes in kitchen sinks for the faucet.
I am an electrician and a similar tool we used to use was called a Qumax cuter
they used to make 20mm and 25mm holes out of trunking to connecting
trunking.
The first dinker is fashioned after a electrician’s knockout punch.
Not fashioned after. It is one, re-branded. That's why the bolt is too large.
was going to say this.
HotelPapa100
The cinching down bolt is to small, that would break going through a gutter box. Other than that it’s identical
@@kenneychappuis1853 Take a decent tempered bolt and it will work. An M6, which will go through the standard bore, in 12.9 holds (and pulls) a ton.
Laura Branigan, self control, brings back fond memories from my youth 🤩🤩🤩
"Dinkin' Ain't Easy", 1940s blues LP by Techmoan
Here in Australia, the record-industry simply made singles with a small hole for a standard record-player, but they also had a dinking-perforation which enabled the purchaser to easily dink it themselves by pushing out the larger disc for playing in a juke-box!
I used to work as an engineer for a company years ago that did jukeboxes in pubs around Manchester and Liverpool, I think they still do. We used to have to dink hundreds of 7” singles every week for the collectors to update the sites when they visited to empty the cash boxes. We used a dinker very much like the one you first used in the video. Not sure if it had been modified but it fitted through the hole without having to do any drilling. You then placed the dinker on the workbench with the record in place and then whacked the top of the dinker with a lump hammer. The trick was to soften the plastic by running a cigarette lighter flame around the area of the cut. Splitting the record, as you did, was quite common but the boss wouldn’t be happy if you f**ked up too many. The job was normally given to the YTS or tea boy as it really was a tedious job. Brought back happy memories.
One Christmas a lady bought an old vinyl jukebox for her husband’s den or ‘man cave’. We gave it a full refurb. She then brought his collection of favourite 7” singles to be dinked and loaded onto the jukebox before we delivered it on Christmas Eve. Not sure if he ever noticed that some of his favourite songs were missing as the dinker had eaten them but I do remember getting a decent tip when we delivered it and then drove away quickly.
Take the 'rubber' liners off the vice, stick the second one in the drill!
ooh, drill good idea :)
I've used exactly that one, they are actually rubber (they melt super easily) and if you remove them you'll just damage whatever you try to put in it. Wouldn't matter in this case though
This is the worst video I've seen about dinkers.
It's also the best.
I've only watched this one video... about dinkers.
Dinker.
Dinker
You know that one statue of the one dude sitting on the rock?
I forget what it's called.
Oh yeah,
It's called
The Dinker
A dyslexic person with bad personal hygiene would probably
also end up as a Dinker
Actually, the first one looks exactly like what I got from IKEA for cutting a hole in a stainless steel sink for fitting a tap
yes! I'd bet that's exactly what it is.
It's just a traditional knock out, available in any size you want
The T-Handle dinker that you bought works perfectly well if you use it correctly.
A friend made one of these for me in the company workshop. To get a nice clean hole, you have to work from BOTH SIDES of the disc. You CANNOT cut a clean hole from one side.
Start off one side, and cut half way through. Then turn he disc over and do the same from the other side. When the cuts meet, you'll have a nice clean hole, which may only need minor cleaning up with a bit of sandpaper.
Also, I find that when cutting through a paper label, it's best if you start turning the cutter the "wrong" way. This perforates the paper tidily, so that when you start cuting "proper" you don't get a raggy paper centre.
Hi, That first hole cutter is called a Q-MAX cutter, they come in many sizes and are designed to cut / punch holes in sheet steel, like in a car body to fit an aerial.As they were not designed for dinking 45s the bolt size is not designed to fit the centre hole, hence the need for a tapered drill bit.
I think the 1st dinker doesn't fit the hole because it wasn't made to be a 'dinker'; it just looks like a panel cutter that's made to make holes about the size needed. Unfortunately that off the shelf tool uses a larger bolt than will fit in the existing hole. As for the off center, I'm guessing you may have made a slightly larger than necessary hole using that stepped drill bit. That allowed the dinker's bolt to shift slightly to a side resulting in the wobble when played. Just guessing, it was fun watching you mangle those records. :-)
We use them to punch holes in electrical cabinets to pull cables thru or fit control switches in.
Yup, that's most commonly found in an electrician's kit. Though you can probably charge double if you re-label it for dinks.
2:23 you do a great UA-cam Pedant impression!
"Tastes like product placement" :-D
Go to love Ebay.
That first one is a standard Sheet metal cutter !
Been around for many years lol
That is why it has a large bolt.
Second a variant of an adjustable hole cutter.
I have over a dozen which I use for making holes in cases and cabinets of various electronic and electrical jobs..
Personally I have in the past, use a standard wood hole saw with the drill replaced by an appropriate diameter bar.
Works well.
I think you want a hole saw with a right-sized peg in place of the center drill-bit. Cheers! Thanks for the video.
"I felt a great disturbance in the Force, as if millions of voices suddenly cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced. I fear something terrible has happened."
One of those voices was mine... True, I was screaming at my screen a collection of words that were understandably not to be used in civilized society. In fact my cats and dogs must have left the area sadly. When I gave it the o'le 👎.. Well I felt better and started to read and 👍 the comments.. First it was a chuckle and a snicker that I wasn't alone in my vision of a serial record mutalation person.. As I kept reading laughing escalated into uncontrollable fits of uproarious gales of laughter with loss of vision and breath.. I have not honestly laughed that hard or that long in over 30 years.. It was so good I subscribed just to see another test like this and relish the reading of comments and replys.. I have no shame..obviously 😂
2:25 I almost fell off my chair for the puppets voice on camera!
I was really impressed by your impression of those muppets you have at the end of your videos sometimes, it was spot one, well done!! #howisthatevenpossible
Pfft. It was clearly photoshopped.
This!!!
not sure it's been mentioned, but the first tool you're using is made for punching holes in metal chassis, like for tube amplifiers, likely why the bolt doesn't fit through a standard record hole.