@@gaetanclybouw she is a great woman and technical to the point .. she 's got lot's of experience in the hands and the mind ..I met her one day in Koln Europe and yes we had quite some ideas in exchange , I am a pure analogue tech and loved her simple but weird approach .. somewhere we are related not only in the name but also in the genes .. it must be ! same inventive approach to problems , same choices in technical love s ; German Vintage electronics .. and most of all that witty kind of a rascal behaviour ... :-) I love my far away niece .. :-) :-) :-)
Reminds me of way back in the mid 70s when I built my own Golden Throat talk box using a rigid dome midrange in a box with a flexible tube attached to a hole in the top of the box and 'viola!' Instant Alvino Rey or Joe Walsh effect with my guitar.
Can't tell you how much I love this. Yes, I'll be making my own Time Cube-ish thing. Cracks me up, because - just like a ton of folks in the world - I accidentally made really stupid/fun delay things happen in the process of recording between several awful tape decks/sound on sound recording, etc. (And thought I'd created something nobody else had...) But what's better is that I received a ton of shit from a couple of old dudes working at a Stockton, CA hardware store circa '82 for buying the same stuff Sylvia bought. Funnel & hose & tape was a common thing to purchase at age 14 & they totally had our number: "Uh, that's interesting. We sell a lot of those. Generally they're used for drinking alcohol. Beer bong? Brong? Y'all aren't doing that are ya?"
andy wallace be like: i boost fundamentals of bass and take reverb returns. (i'm a big fan of his*) sylvia massy be like: hold my farking garden hose and funnel, smashing forties. LOL
@Sylvia Massy thank you and bravo! Keep the videos coming, always very well explained and you make it all captivating. Thanks also to Earthquaker Devices, coolest brand ever! Cheers
Every other engineer : "I'll just get to this rack down there in the bottom" Sylvia : "Let me just grab a garden hose, my duck tape, this custom amp, a pickle and my car battery, I'll be ready in 5!"
I did love the very lofi tone it gave and the weird phasing. Now for the delay well calculate 1ms per foot so it was only around 25 ms. Gave me some ideas thank you Sylvia !
For something called the Time Cube I was expecting a Flux Capacitor inside. I remember as kids we used to yell through one end of the garden hose and someone would listen on the other side. Kind of sounded like this. Much crappier but similar.
That'd be really cool to hear with both microphones isolated and the hose stretched out. It almost sounded like a reverb the way it was set up. Which makes sense since they're pretty closely related.
they both sound like they could use a noise gate or 60hz cut out filter now i'm thinking of some type of large echo chamber with lots of panels/ tubes etc that you could modify...just seems like a hassle today though. this is also similar to a 'talk box' in that instead of putting the mic at the end of the tube, you put the tube in your mouth and the mic in front of you
If Red Green was a sound engineer :-) I think you get approximately 1ms per foot of hose. I wonder what the practical limit would be - could you realistically make a slapback delay with 100 feet of hose? Thanks!
Hi Sylvia , your cousin here from belgium ,so who was first in building this thing was it your idea ?? I know it is slowing down at 327meter length of the tube for 1 second ( speed of sound ) so 10 meter tube will slow down your sound for 1/32.7 sec am I right ?
Love her ways 1000 percent but. Not hearing the delay in the DIY version really, just a tonal thing happening….the slap back delay effect was only in the OG it seemed like…
@@chinmeysway delay time is to short , the tube must be quite something longer to have a real good effect her 's is only 1/20th of a second about I guess . enlarge the size of the tube to about 15 meters or 20 meters and you will notice , and the sound 'tonal thing' is the resonation from the volume in the funnel and the cone of the speaker ,
the tube inside diameter will restrict the lower frequencies .. for audiowaves the same formulas aply as for electronic waves like radar microwave frquencies etc .. only the propagation speed is different : audio 270m/sec and electroncsic waves 270 000 km.sec
yeah, it's pretty hard to make something like this without at least one revision. Tbh, I sometimes find it difficult to recreate past sounds and setups that I've done. As if there needs to be something new for each song, or at least a slightly different approach if you can't control every single variable. In the case of this failed DIY slapback effect, which she did VERY fast, I think she should have used a more sensible speaker, like a small PA, in a booth, with the vocal being sent (split signal) from the console. I think she split the signal on the console in the first demonstration, so idk why she didn't do that on her DIY demo. I think it would have helped isolate the two signals from each other dramatically. Plugging a vocal mic straight into an amp sitting 4 ft away from u will never sound good, even in a well treated space. Also, a longer hose is probably needed, like if she was using 25ft i would try 30 or 35ft. It depends on the sound WITH isolation between wet/dry, but there was no isolation on her DIY demo. Something about the Cooper Time Cube felt like... strangely processed. Idk what all those plastic peanuts were for, but they made it difficult to get a proper look inside the unit. That sound is very common though... like, there are a ton of different iterations of the slapback vocal, such as ADT from EMI, and messing with short delay on a tape machine. There's a million ways to achieve the sound, but only a few of which involve trips to Home Depot!
cause its actually a natural reverb wall, its not. a delay. you can do something similar. Take a used clean can, put a mic on the open end and play acoustic guitar to the closed end. you'll get something quite similar to this sound.
Sylvia is an absolute treasure to the recording community. Thanks, EQD for this series!
I'd love to spend a day in that studio with Sylvia.
Do it! Most of your favorite pro audio engineers are for hire.
Right,,!! I was just about to write that. Her Aura is literally blinding me..
Just a day?
Who wouldn’t?
@@gaetanclybouw she is a great woman and technical to the point .. she 's got lot's of experience in the hands and the mind ..I met her one day in Koln Europe and yes we had quite some ideas in exchange , I am a pure analogue tech and loved her simple but weird approach .. somewhere we are related not only in the name but also in the genes .. it must be ! same inventive approach to problems , same choices in technical love s ; German Vintage electronics .. and most of all that witty kind of a rascal behaviour ... :-) I love my far away niece .. :-) :-) :-)
Came for Sylvia Massy’s wisdom, stayed for the ASMR
sylvia massy is like the coolest aunt of all time
On a side note that jacket/coat is amazing!
Obsessed. Adore this series
Reminds me of way back in the mid 70s when I built my own Golden Throat talk box using a rigid dome midrange in a box with a flexible tube attached to a hole in the top of the box and 'viola!' Instant Alvino Rey or Joe Walsh effect with my guitar.
Sylvia is a creative genus and a beautiful legend.
This was great and she is such a delight. I could watch her build stuff all day.
thank you for helping broke people getting cool sounds. That's a beautiful punk spirit right there.
Can't tell you how much I love this. Yes, I'll be making my own Time Cube-ish thing. Cracks me up, because - just like a ton of folks in the world - I accidentally made really stupid/fun delay things happen in the process of recording between several awful tape decks/sound on sound recording, etc. (And thought I'd created something nobody else had...) But what's better is that I received a ton of shit from a couple of old dudes working at a Stockton, CA hardware store circa '82 for buying the same stuff Sylvia bought. Funnel & hose & tape was a common thing to purchase at age 14 & they totally had our number: "Uh, that's interesting. We sell a lot of those. Generally they're used for drinking alcohol. Beer bong? Brong? Y'all aren't doing that are ya?"
She's so fun!
Sylvia Massy, the audio goddess. 🙏
Sylvia is a national treasure!
Long time admirer and ( online ) student of Sylvia. Her enthusiasm and out of the box attitude is contagious !!
andy wallace be like: i boost fundamentals of bass and take reverb returns. (i'm a big fan of his*)
sylvia massy be like: hold my farking garden hose and funnel, smashing forties. LOL
Super!! I love your creativity mom!!!!! No, time to serious, many thanks for inspiring audio experiments!!! Love it this series!!!
@Sylvia Massy thank you and bravo! Keep the videos coming, always very well explained and you make it all captivating. Thanks also to Earthquaker Devices, coolest brand ever! Cheers
I'm thinking about putting one of these together with a broken talkbox I own :D
Was going to do some gardening this weekend, but now I will be delaying that project by building a time cube!
Thanks for the great video. Such a mechanically elegant effect. Even simpler than a plate!
Please make more vids in this series!
OMG love you Sylvia!!! and Even Chris too!! haha!! Love you both
she has such a relaxing voice!
I love these studio go boom episodes. So many cool ideas!
This is Absolutely Fantastic! What a series! Cheers!
Glad you enjoy it!
Great project and well presented
I'm sure they used the same technique on Apollo 13!
Sylvia is my hero, her book totally flipped the way I think about sound on its head.
love her videos
This is totally excellent. I bet hardware stores across the country are now having a run on garden hoses.
Oh they’re prob out of stock
Nice to see you back :-)
Hey what's Sylvia using for her delay
- A funnel and garden hose
And here I am using my plugins like a sucker
Lo tech innovation and experimentation is so much fun in the studio.
Awesome!!!!
very cool! supposedly, a "cooper time cube" was used on the original zz top recording "tush" back in the 70's!
Love it! Cant beat some DIY
Every other engineer : "I'll just get to this rack down there in the bottom"
Sylvia : "Let me just grab a garden hose, my duck tape, this custom amp, a pickle and my car battery, I'll be ready in 5!"
I did love the very lofi tone it gave and the weird phasing. Now for the delay well calculate 1ms per foot so it was only around 25 ms. Gave me some ideas thank you Sylvia !
I love Sylvia. She glows..
For something called the Time Cube I was expecting a Flux Capacitor inside. I remember as kids we used to yell through one end of the garden hose and someone would listen on the other side. Kind of sounded like this. Much crappier but similar.
Sylvia you need your own show
She’s so awesome!
the Red Green show does a musical segment 😂
I will build mine this next weekend !
"Cooper Time Cube" makes me think of Twin Peaks.
Amazing!!
pepper keenan from coc secret too the deliverance voice sound too
OMG that's brilliant!!! LOL
I'm going to have to try this
Love it! Pickle, garden hose, what’s next?
very special nights, those nights when these come out 😎
You're the best, Silva.
😂 absolutely love it!!
WOW!....91/2 minutes of Sylvia!
I have learned more off your videos than most if not all studio related videos on UA-cam combined
Wow!
Sylvia pleasantly got me into this whole mess. Now I am stuck living and breathing adventure recording.
Aunty Syl. She’s the best
so freakin fun!
Lyra-8 on the bench! Greatest ever noise machine
She plays it in the Show us your Junk video for Earthquaker, too!
This is some David Lynch level stuff
The time cube is actually a time coil. How much did they sell that thing for back in the day?
Mind, blown
Oh ya, I have some 4" drainage pipe coils, think I'll give it a shot on a much larger scale.
The garden center had green hoses and normal hoses but no freaking hoses.
That'd be really cool to hear with both microphones isolated and the hose stretched out. It almost sounded like a reverb the way it was set up. Which makes sense since they're pretty closely related.
I wanna try it with that black corrugated plastic sewer pipe. I bet it would get all sproingy if you got it long enough.
I wonder what it would sound like if the tube was copper?
A copper cooper?
what lenght was the original hose ?
I would love to be your assistant! This is so inspiring!
Tube delay :)
IS THAT A DRINK I SEE ON THE DESK???
FIRED!!
I used to own a Cooper Time Cube... it was an odd duck.
they both sound like they could use a noise gate or 60hz cut out filter
now i'm thinking of some type of large echo chamber with lots of panels/ tubes etc that you could modify...just seems like a hassle today though.
this is also similar to a 'talk box' in that instead of putting the mic at the end of the tube, you put the tube in your mouth and the mic in front of you
That would also work: you could do a Cooper Time Talk Box by uncoiling the hose and using that.
everybody go buy her book i learned more from it than probably anywhere else x
Ohh yeah I want to get it for sure!
what mic is she using at the beginning?
I think it is a Vintage SENNHEISER
It’s a vintage MD21 Sennheiser
Only Syl can make that style of mask look good 🤣😍😍
So much less dangerous and destructive than I have come to expect!
If Red Green was a sound engineer :-) I think you get approximately 1ms per foot of hose. I wonder what the practical limit would be - could you realistically make a slapback delay with 100 feet of hose? Thanks!
i love people from usa 😄
Sylvia 😍
I love this woman, that is all I've got to say.
👏👏👏cool
Hi Sylvia , your cousin here from belgium ,so who was first in building this thing was it your idea ?? I know it is slowing down at 327meter length of the tube for 1 second ( speed of sound ) so 10 meter tube will slow down your sound for 1/32.7 sec am I right ?
and filling up the tube with different gasses will change the timing .. ( nitrous oxide )
Love her ways 1000 percent but. Not hearing the delay in the DIY version really, just a tonal thing happening….the slap back delay effect was only in the OG it seemed like…
@@chinmeysway delay time is to short , the tube must be quite something longer to have a real good effect her 's is only 1/20th of a second about I guess . enlarge the size of the tube to about 15 meters or 20 meters and you will notice , and the sound 'tonal thing' is the resonation from the volume in the funnel and the cone of the speaker ,
the tube inside diameter will restrict the lower frequencies .. for audiowaves the same formulas aply as for electronic waves like radar microwave frquencies etc .. only the propagation speed is different : audio 270m/sec and electroncsic waves 270 000 km.sec
isnt this in your book?
Love the lesson, but this didn’t work as well as I hoped.😬
yeah, it's pretty hard to make something like this without at least one revision. Tbh, I sometimes find it difficult to recreate past sounds and setups that I've done. As if there needs to be something new for each song, or at least a slightly different approach if you can't control every single variable.
In the case of this failed DIY slapback effect, which she did VERY fast, I think she should have used a more sensible speaker, like a small PA, in a booth, with the vocal being sent (split signal) from the console. I think she split the signal on the console in the first demonstration, so idk why she didn't do that on her DIY demo. I think it would have helped isolate the two signals from each other dramatically. Plugging a vocal mic straight into an amp sitting 4 ft away from u will never sound good, even in a well treated space. Also, a longer hose is probably needed, like if she was using 25ft i would try 30 or 35ft. It depends on the sound WITH isolation between wet/dry, but there was no isolation on her DIY demo.
Something about the Cooper Time Cube felt like... strangely processed. Idk what all those plastic peanuts were for, but they made it difficult to get a proper look inside the unit. That sound is very common though... like, there are a ton of different iterations of the slapback vocal, such as ADT from EMI, and messing with short delay on a tape machine. There's a million ways to achieve the sound, but only a few of which involve trips to Home Depot!
You are fucking awesome!!!!
Microphone Duct tape and a funnel. Reminds me of trying to mic my Magnus chord organ.
💖👍👍
They didn’t mix in the signal what the hell
time cube
Hey Aidan
One Cooper brother was into audio and the other was into parachutes.
Felt a little weak compared to the original, a closed system would probably sound much closer
.....she's a nice lady :)
more like a reverb tank, than a delay.
I'll be like #667 ..sorry yall hahaha
Very american
Why was it so noisy and boxey sounding compared to the real time cube?
cause its actually a natural reverb wall, its not. a delay. you can do something similar. Take a used clean can, put a mic on the open end and play acoustic guitar to the closed end. you'll get something quite similar to this sound.
I think it’s because it’s a mic duct taped to a hose duct taped to a funnel duct taped an amp
The real one is probably using a compression driver more accurately sized to the cube
For one thing, it's on the verge of full-on feedback.
because it was out in the noise, and wasnt in a a box. lol.
It sounds like a bad version of ADT
Those kinks in the hose ruined the toan.
Excellent, as always. Thank you.