There seems to be some confusion about the extender's job, so let me clarify: You get an extender and you get a repeater. Unfortunately, both of these are used interchangeably which causes confusion. A real extender is when you hard-wire with an ethernet cable to the access point ie. this black box. This gives the extender the full speed capability so that when it extends the network it has the max speed that it can get from the router. That is how you should be using an extender. What most people do is use this black box wirelessly. This means that it acts as a repeater. It takes whatever wireless signal it gets from the router and repeats it. When it does that it, reduces the speed of the connectivity - usually by half. So if you get 100Mbps at the black box, when it repeats it and spreads the wireless signal, you get 50Mbps. Now when it comes to coverage: The black box, being closer than the router, spreads the wireless signals to cover any places that previously didn't have signals or had weak signal. So it does work for that and you feel like you are getting more coverage as your wifi indicator shows it is full. Yes, you get that coverage BUT at half the speed of the router. So: If you just want to spread the wireless signal and don't care about the speed, then this black box works. However, if you want to spread the signal AND get faster speed, then a Mesh Node is the option to go with. If you don't want to buy a Mesh Node, then hard wire the black box to get the max speed that you can. But in most cases, people have these boxes because they can't run an ethernet cable. Hope that helps.
I always used my extender to extend the wifi. I never thought it would be used to increase speed. I no longer have dead spots in my backyard...its all a care about.
I have a doorbell camera that is on the edge of coverage for my router, and sometimes would drop out of the network. It is a pain to get it synced back up with the network, so I have a wi-fi extender near the front door specifically for the doorbell camera to connect to. In that case the extender makes sense. As you pointed out, it's slower than the wi-fi signal from the router, but the camera can stay synced with the extender better than with the router and the speed doesn't really matter. But I already had the extender before this problem came up. If I was buying something now to improve connectivity with the doorbell camera, I'd go with a mesh network as you described.
Install Wifi Analyser on your phone. Run a scan. You'll see all the available networks and which channels they use. Pick a channel that nobody else uses for your routers wifi, your signal will increase vastly and speeds will be much faster. No more disconnects either. Your packets might be colliding with others in the area.
Good info. I love your channel. Always usefull info. I especially appreciate little to no talk about overclocking to get a nanosecond more speed for gaming or talk about the latest $2000 video card with an RGB lightshow. Just useful practical info for the regular user. Also, you don't bloat your videos with extraneous useless filler. Well done Liron! I'm a new subscriber.
Second video from you that I've watched, enjoyed both. The first was the one about what your phone (Android) is connecting to, even in standby, using Pihole as a DNS sleuth. Loved that one. Would be very interested to see the ASUS devices behind Pihole or similar to see what/if they connect to stuff periodically. I assume that they will get some level of updates, but wonder what else they're talking to... Thanks and great job.
I paid $5 for my Wifi Extender at a thrift shop and it does exactly what I want. Or I could go to Amazon and pay $200 or $300 for the routers he advertises in his description.
A Wi-Fi extender is not designed to increase your speed. It's just to increase your distance. As if you set up another router as a bridge, or a repeater.
Fun video -- and very educational as always. Just don't trip on a pet or garden hose running back and forth through your lovely backyard when you do those speed tests! 😍
I work from home, and built a shed in the backyard to be my home office / work shop, so I wasn't just in the house all day ... Only to find when i closed the door to the shed, the Wi-Fi signal from the house went to just about bupkiss... the shed is maybe 70ft from the router inside the house . I'm using a $20 WiFi extender that looks basically like the one held up in the beginning of the video, placed under the floor of the shed so it has "line of sight" to the router and my devices in the shed... I really don't see the benefit in spending more money on something more complicated if you're literally trying to extend the range like in my case... If the shed was further, say hundreds of feet,, the mesh node wouldn't even be an option... I'd be looking at point-to-point antennas or just running cable of some type. All this to say - cheap/simple isn't always going to do what you need. I'm glad I watched the video, as the use case mentioned was not what i expected... Yes, if the goal is faster WiFi across a larger area, simple repeaters/extenders are not likely to be the answer... Another thing though - i don't think most people are aware how Wi-Fi works and more importantly how devices negotiate the communications.. multiple devices on the same Wi-Fi have higher chance of collision, needing both devices to back off and try again.. when the devices are close together - like your phone and the smart TV you're watching UA-cam on, they can 'hear' if the other device started transmission and wait their turn, avoiding the collision.. but when the devices are on opposite sides of the house with the router between them, they may not 'hear ' the other device so well, slowing down the entire network.. I had to learn all of that dealing with slow WiFi under Linux, when the same computer with the same Wi-Fi adapter worked well under Windows... Had to tweak the settings for collisions and such manually... Arrgh.
My router is in my office only 7 steps from the top of my basement stairs. I get a terrible (almost nonexistent) WiFi connection when I go in the basement. I put a WiFi extender in an outlet at the top of the stairs and now I can connect to the internet. All I can say is it works.
A WiFi extender is NOT supposed to strengthen WiFi signal, or increase WiFi speed. It it designed to EXTEND THE RANGE of your WiFi and they all do that..........regardless of what your SPONSOR says.
If you’re like me and you don’t want a mesh network with satellites in each room of your house where people sleep (you don’t want to sleep next to a a device blasting high frequencies), I would suggest a Moca Adaptor, which utilizes pre-existing coaxial cable in your walls. You will have to contact your ISP to activate these coaxial outlets. The moca adaptor will allow you to connect lan cables to a switch, which will allow you to wire your internet connection for all your devices in your room without having to sleep next to a router or satellite/extender. Just my $0.02.
Personally I ran a wired indoor / outdoor access point as I couldn't access the wifi from certain locations. The access point is fast and is manageable (much higher spec than my router) . Of course this means running some cat6 , but it's POE so easy as to set up. Plug that into an existing router or switch and you're set to go. Now I can access the internet from the garage and even the street. It's got a strong password, but I should also set up some mac filtering And yeah, I've had the misfortune of using a wifi extender before (years ago) :(
I use a inexpensive wifi extender for security cameras in a different building, the wifi reaches there but it’s weak on my phone and the extender it picks up the signal better. The camera recorder requires Ethernet to use and the extender has a lan port. Sure I could run Ethernet but the extender is only being used for cameras needing very little bandwidth and speed.
Using the wrong equipment for the task doesn’t mean that it’s never appropriate. I have a similiar situation to you, but to get a connection to another building, I’ve run the signal between electrical outlets. I use an extender to get the Wifi that is upstairs to be downstairs. For reasons that I won’t go into, there’s no other sensible way to do it.
i happen to have a wifi extender , it works just fine, but also because i have ethernet from the extender to my router - yes it was a pain in the ass to run the ethernet , but i have not had any issues with the extender; and i get good speeds to be honest.
A case use for an extender might be if you are wanting to add a "wired" Ethernet to a room in an older house or apartment that was built with no Ethernet wiring. Otherwise, I agree with you (the extender DOES slow things down) on this issue; slowing down to WiFi 3/G speeds or worse isn't ideal. Any comments on the TP-Link upcoming ban? I feel it is unfortunate as their routers are built to last (They are my brand of choice).
I am looking into this TP-Link thing...its still under investigation and of course we hear only a fraction of whats actually going on. Is it a real issue or a political one? I am not sure at this stage - but I am looking
Liron, on one of your videos you stated that the wifi booster vs. the repeater worked. Now you saying they dont work, i bought a booster , when it arrive i can only hope it works.
i have frontier also - id love to just replace the router - but the problem is i also have frontier video which relies on the frontier router for the guide obviously - i would love to find a solution to connect the STBs to a router of my choice and ditch the frontier router , but i don't know if a moca to ethernet adapter / bridge would even work properly .
I would love to try some of these gadgets however, my internet provider blocks and gear that isn't theirs....Sad situation But I still can watch your content....Thanks Mr. Segev
arggg frustrating - so you can't even buy your own router? What I do is use the service provider's device to get connectivity and then plug their device into my own router and do everything on my own equipment. Can you not do that?
@@chrischapinsr.4714 perhaps you have spectrum? They keep shutting down for some reason I've had more outages in the last 3 months than what I had in 4 years
@@LironSegev You'd think so...But no. I live in a town of less than 12K people. The provider has a monopoly on this entire town. If you don't buy their internet...You don't get internet. So yeah there's that. Plus, the entire town is located in a bowl surrounded by mountains. Very limited as to options.
@@chrischapinsr.4714 Something sounds funny there. If a person is using their equipment to connect , how can they stop what's used beyond that point 🤔 Maybe check how it's connected ✌️
I tried an extender and found rhe same thing. I plugged in the extender half way to the weak area. I tested the signal the extwnder should be receiving by doing a speed test with my phone. Then right beside the extender, i signed on to it and found the speed was less than half. So the extender was retransmitting at less than half what it was receiving. Thought it was just the TP link device I purchased. Appears they are all near worthless.
Interesting video. Not sure what wifi extender you used for your tests - if you had used the ASUS AiMesh Extender (ASUS RP-AX58) in the mesh mode, I think the results would have looked different.
I picked up an old d-link extender from a thrift store and it worked fine(after I Googled all the specs for it), but kept dropping the network, so I had to keep re-enrolling it - I think it may have been running too hot. Whatever the reason, eventually I gave up on it, good thing it only cost a couple bucks!
"Here in Western Australia the fastest nbn speed we can get is 67Mbs down" If you have nbn fibre connected to your property or if nbn is available to connect to your home, you can get gigabit internet, that's 1000Mbps internet speed! Shop around and check with your local ISP's to see if they have it. I live in Sydney and only pay $130 for Gigabit(1000Mbps) internet a month. It used to be much more expensive than this, but demand, nbn accessibility and competition has seen these prices drop a lot in the last few years.
A wifi extender acts as a repeater which reduces the speed as it increases the coverage. The entire point of the video is to show that you can get both: extend the coverage WHILE STILL getting faster speeds. So you have a choice: use the extended to get more coverage at a reduced speed OR get a Mesh Node and increase coverage and get faster connectivity. The choice is yours.
people are constantly upgrading. WiFi 6 has been around for a while now and people who skipped Wifi 6 are jumping right into WiFi 7. If you have the need, you upgrade. If you don't, you can still use a 2.4Gz wifi today if you don't need a decent internet and wifi speed - it still works.
Would this item help me? I use my phone as a mobile hot spot. It fulfills my internet needs. However, signal strength varies from room to room. My apartment is a brick building, and 2 rooms out of 3 are on the side away from the cell tower, which is less than 0.2 mi away. I'd like a stronger signal in those 2 rooms. DSL is too expensive and I don't have a TV or cable.
So in the case where you cant easily have a mesh, I **Would** say go down the extender route. Example. Customer has an ISP supplied DSL router and in a part of their home they do not have any Internet coverage. They install an extender and it solves the problem. The OTHER solution is to a) switch off the wifi from the ISP device, insert at least 2 WIFI access points in the home, one by the router, the other in affected area, and c) yes they could be mesh devices. UNFORTUNATELY the mesh solution may be way too complicated for the completely non techy person.
I have a WiFi/ethernet extender. (You "supposedly" can use it for WiFi or, by plugging-in an ethernet cable that can then be plugged-into the ethernet port on a laptop. Is this even possible . . or did I waste my money?
I don't understand how an Ethernet extender works. The only physical connection between the modem and the extender is house wiring; not a Cat5 Ethernet cable. I'm sorry if this is a stupid questions.
Idk ive tested my wifi extender and i get relatively the same speed from the router and the extender. I only use the extender so I can have a wired connection to my ps5 for gaming
People buy wifi extenders because they are cheap american companies like intel, Asus, sell you expensive equipment which is fine if they work as expected problem is.. like in the case of intels processor i9 14900 - if it does not work.. you as the customer, you are on your own American companies can learn a thing or two about customer commitment like japanese companies like toyota or lexus
So let me make sure I understand....you are upset because you can't click the link because your AdBlocker blocks them even though the videos and links are there? Did I get that right?
only if you want to see a massive difference! I would start with a WiFi 7 router (I have links in the description) and if you still need more coverage then upgrade. This is why I like Asus as you don't need to buy everyone at once.
How can the link speed with the access points be lower than the speedtest results? Link speed is supposed to be the max speed at that point, the actual chimed speed to the router, so how can the internet speed test, beats that by far?
Good question. The "link speed" refers to the maximum data transfer rate between the device and whatever it is connecting to (router/ extender/ node). This is limited by the type of connection and port assigned to the connection. The "internet speed" refers to the speed of your connection to the internet service provider, which can be much higher if the router cable and port can handle the full bandwidth.
@@LironSegev Thanks for your near-to-instantaneous reply! Yet, We totally agree on that! My question lies into this. If the Speedtest client runs on your mobile device - the MAX speed should be that of the link speed, regardless on how fast your internet speed is, the bottleneck would be the link speed. So how can the speed test report higher than that? To put it in another way, if you have 1Gbps symmetric on your router, and you connect via a UTP 5 to your router, you can''t get over 100Mbps, on your testing machine. So how?
@georgekaridis7677 I get that. My understanding is that with these routers you get that ultra wide 329Mhz channels that doubles the transmission capacity so it allows multiple data streams 2x2 dual-band Wi-Fi router and 1024-QAM. So I get that you can't get "more than the max speed" but I assume what is happening is a more efficient data transfer which results in registering those faster speeds.
@@LironSegev You may have a point there. That would mean that the link speed changes when the requested bandwidth hits the top, the router may give you more of the available spectrum so the actual link speed would also rise, thus the higher (than the originally measured link-speed) internet speed. Otherwise that can't be achieved, in my books at least. Nevertheless, that's an interesting piece of equipment :) Thanks Liron, Happy holidays all
its hard to show the other benefits of Mesh like the "feel" of a more stable and less sluggish connections with multiple wireless devices connecting at the same time. The way the Mesh handles the connectivity to each device and bypassing congestion spots is not something you can show. I converted over to Mesh years ago, way before Asus became a sponsor, and we havent looked back and why I have no issues talking about a product I love. We just all work better both at work and at home (with less "is the wifi down, oh wait nevermind, its back" 😜) Really appreciate the civil discussion vs the usual internet trolls! have an epic holiday season and all the best for 2025!
Question, could I use that asus router to provide internet separately from my iot devices. For example, I would want the laptops to keep the existing vpn service and then let the IOT's use the ASUS protection separately.
@@bonce8022 I find that powerline is a bit of hot or miss. If you're lucky it works great. But it really depends. In my previous house it worked pretty well, but in my new house l, some outlets just aren't able to connect to the adapter that is hooked up to the modem/router.
my best tech i recently bought was ugreen switcher. it allows me use 1 set of keyboard and mouse to quickly switch between 2 laptops. i also love the razer gigantis desk matts as they helped my work space. i have a 3 sided office work space with spinnin chair, so i bought 3 razer gigantis matts. i actually use shelves as desks and raised the shelves up high to give leg room. i also boight 2 long wallcorner lamps that shine light off of wall for a warmer lighting less direct lighting. this lighting is a long tube lighting from floor to up high near shelf heights im using, 3 shelves and the 2 corner areas has these lamps.
What can't I adjust my video playback speed? Unfortunately, that's the only way I can have time to watch videos. Don't even have time to watch a movie during the week. Oh well, guess I'll never know
What setup steps did you have to go thru to setup this ASUS node to your WiFi system? I assume your main router is not ASUS. Did you do it thru ASUS app or app of main Router.
Curious how RINGs doorbell chime/extender work? I needed one in the basement form my channel as my router is the opposite end and 1 floor away. Seems ok but did zero testing 😂
I havent tested it myself but my guess is that its optimized to give priority to RING products so should be ok (if its the same product I am thinking about)
basically mesh is just a more powerful router costing a lot more...I always thought these affordable extenders captured the signal, boost it and broadcast that enhance signal...
The terms "router" and "mesh node" are often used in the context of home Wi-Fi networks, and while they are related, they are not interchangeable. Here's a breakdown of their differences: Router: Central Hub: A traditional router is the central hub of your home network. It connects to your modem to receive the internet signal and then broadcasts that signal wirelessly to your devices (phones, laptops, etc.). Single Point of Access: All devices on your network connect directly to the router. Mesh Node: Part of a System: A mesh node is a component of a mesh Wi-Fi system. These systems use multiple nodes (including the main router) placed throughout your home. Extended Coverage: The nodes work together to create a single, seamless Wi-Fi network, eliminating dead zones and providing strong Wi-Fi coverage across a larger area. Interconnected: Mesh nodes communicate with each other wirelessly, allowing devices to seamlessly switch from one node to another as you move around your home, ensuring a consistent connection. Imagine a single light bulb in a large room. That's your traditional router. It might light up the center of the room well, but the corners might be dim. A mesh Wi-Fi system is like having multiple smaller lights placed strategically throughout the room
If you can find a fix or work around for laptops like Gigabyte AORUS 17X Core i9 RTX 4080 LAPTOP there unlocked CPU but you cant overclock anything on them as they locked disabled overclocking.....which is strange Lol if you can find a fix for something like that i bet thousands of more people would be happy :P
It seems unhelpful to "test" a range extender with a link speed slower than the existing download speed. This can ONLY slow down the performance. Just as it seems that your existing router was slowing down your "spectacularly" fast internet connection. I actually gave this video a thumbs down. I can't remember the last time I did that. I have never had, and don't expect that I ever will have, an internet connection that is faster than any router or range extender that I own.
It's ok. Clearly you don't have clue how networking works. Btw, my Internet speed is 1Gb upload and download. This channel is obviously way above your intellect so best not to watch any more videos. K bye 👋
Across Australia, 52 mbps upload is the limit due to Rupert Murdoch and Australia's version of the Republican party (the Liberal party) protection of Rupert's fox monopoly.
Perfect timing! Mesh is the way to go - simple as that. There are so many benefits which you can't show in a video like how so many devices just work better with less lag so you don't feel as much of a sluggish network as you would with extenders.
There seems to be some confusion about the extender's job, so let me clarify:
You get an extender and you get a repeater. Unfortunately, both of these are used interchangeably which causes confusion.
A real extender is when you hard-wire with an ethernet cable to the access point ie. this black box.
This gives the extender the full speed capability so that when it extends the network it has the max speed that it can get from the router. That is how you should be using an extender.
What most people do is use this black box wirelessly.
This means that it acts as a repeater.
It takes whatever wireless signal it gets from the router and repeats it.
When it does that it, reduces the speed of the connectivity - usually by half.
So if you get 100Mbps at the black box, when it repeats it and spreads the wireless signal, you get 50Mbps.
Now when it comes to coverage:
The black box, being closer than the router, spreads the wireless signals to cover any places that previously didn't have signals or had weak signal. So it does work for that and you feel like you are getting more coverage as your wifi indicator shows it is full.
Yes, you get that coverage BUT at half the speed of the router.
So: If you just want to spread the wireless signal and don't care about the speed, then this black box works.
However, if you want to spread the signal AND get faster speed, then a Mesh Node is the option to go with.
If you don't want to buy a Mesh Node, then hard wire the black box to get the max speed that you can. But in most cases, people have these boxes because they can't run an ethernet cable.
Hope that helps.
I always used my extender to extend the wifi. I never thought it would be used to increase speed. I no longer have dead spots in my backyard...its all a care about.
not to increase speed but to transmit the signal.
I have a doorbell camera that is on the edge of coverage for my router, and sometimes would drop out of the network. It is a pain to get it synced back up with the network, so I have a wi-fi extender near the front door specifically for the doorbell camera to connect to. In that case the extender makes sense. As you pointed out, it's slower than the wi-fi signal from the router, but the camera can stay synced with the extender better than with the router and the speed doesn't really matter. But I already had the extender before this problem came up. If I was buying something now to improve connectivity with the doorbell camera, I'd go with a mesh network as you described.
Agreed 👍
Install Wifi Analyser on your phone. Run a scan. You'll see all the available networks and which channels they use. Pick a channel that nobody else uses for your routers wifi, your signal will increase vastly and speeds will be much faster. No more disconnects either. Your packets might be colliding with others in the area.
Speed is one thing, but the fact that Mesh provides a seamless connection is the best thing for me.
100% - no need to reconnect when you change rooms. It just works and finds the best connectivity for you.
Good info. I love your channel. Always usefull info. I especially appreciate little to no talk about overclocking to get a nanosecond more speed for gaming or talk about the latest $2000 video card with an RGB lightshow. Just useful practical info for the regular user. Also, you don't bloat your videos with extraneous useless filler. Well done Liron! I'm a new subscriber.
I try telling people you can't get better speed with an extender than mesh but they believe it's the same thing 😂
and now you have proof 😜
Second video from you that I've watched, enjoyed both. The first was the one about what your phone (Android) is connecting to, even in standby, using Pihole as a DNS sleuth. Loved that one. Would be very interested to see the ASUS devices behind Pihole or similar to see what/if they connect to stuff periodically. I assume that they will get some level of updates, but wonder what else they're talking to... Thanks and great job.
I paid $5 for my Wifi Extender at a thrift shop and it does exactly what I want. Or I could go to Amazon and pay $200 or $300 for the routers he advertises in his description.
You can also buy a bicycle for $100 at a thrift shop but you can't compare it to a car. Yes they both get you from A to B, but are not the same.
You could have bought mine for $2.00!
A Wi-Fi extender is not designed to increase your speed. It's just to increase your distance. As if you set up another router as a bridge, or a repeater.
Fun video -- and very educational as always. Just don't trip on a pet or garden hose running back and forth through your lovely backyard when you do those speed tests! 😍
Haha thanks - I definitely wouldn't want to trip during testing!
Thank you.. also must be nice to have Fios. Glad all works well. Next video please.
I work from home, and built a shed in the backyard to be my home office / work shop, so I wasn't just in the house all day ... Only to find when i closed the door to the shed, the Wi-Fi signal from the house went to just about bupkiss... the shed is maybe 70ft from the router inside the house .
I'm using a $20 WiFi extender that looks basically like the one held up in the beginning of the video, placed under the floor of the shed so it has "line of sight" to the router and my devices in the shed...
I really don't see the benefit in spending more money on something more complicated if you're literally trying to extend the range like in my case... If the shed was further, say hundreds of feet,, the mesh node wouldn't even be an option... I'd be looking at point-to-point antennas or just running cable of some type.
All this to say - cheap/simple isn't always going to do what you need. I'm glad I watched the video, as the use case mentioned was not what i expected... Yes, if the goal is faster WiFi across a larger area, simple repeaters/extenders are not likely to be the answer...
Another thing though - i don't think most people are aware how Wi-Fi works and more importantly how devices negotiate the communications.. multiple devices on the same Wi-Fi have higher chance of collision, needing both devices to back off and try again.. when the devices are close together - like your phone and the smart TV you're watching UA-cam on, they can 'hear' if the other device started transmission and wait their turn, avoiding the collision.. but when the devices are on opposite sides of the house with the router between them, they may not 'hear ' the other device so well, slowing down the entire network..
I had to learn all of that dealing with slow WiFi under Linux, when the same computer with the same Wi-Fi adapter worked well under Windows... Had to tweak the settings for collisions and such manually... Arrgh.
My router is in my office only 7 steps from the top of my basement stairs. I get a terrible (almost nonexistent) WiFi connection when I go in the basement. I put a WiFi extender in an outlet at the top of the stairs and now I can connect to the internet. All I can say is it works.
If it works, it works!
A WiFi extender is NOT supposed to strengthen WiFi signal, or increase WiFi speed. It it designed to EXTEND THE RANGE of your WiFi and they all do that..........regardless of what your SPONSOR says.
Congratulations 👏 you understood the entire point of the video woohoo 🙌
If you’re like me and you don’t want a mesh network with satellites in each room of your house where people sleep (you don’t want to sleep next to a a device blasting high frequencies), I would suggest a Moca Adaptor, which utilizes pre-existing coaxial cable in your walls. You will have to contact your ISP to activate these coaxial outlets. The moca adaptor will allow you to connect lan cables to a switch, which will allow you to wire your internet connection for all your devices in your room without having to sleep next to a router or satellite/extender. Just my $0.02.
Personally I ran a wired indoor / outdoor access point as I couldn't access the wifi from certain locations. The access point is fast and is manageable (much higher spec than my router) . Of course this means running some cat6 , but it's POE so easy as to set up.
Plug that into an existing router or switch and you're set to go.
Now I can access the internet from the garage and even the street. It's got a strong password, but I should also set up some mac filtering
And yeah, I've had the misfortune of using a wifi extender before (years ago) :(
Excellent video thank you for sharing. I've wondered about those range extenders. I do use ASUS WAPS, unlike them a lot.
What app do you use to measure the wifi signal in your video, not speedtest but the other one shown.
Wifi extender is a lot cheaper. About $35 . Outher devices $200 or more.
Liron, Thank you very much!
My pleasure!
Thank you for this video.
WiFi extenders work pretty well when wired and placed in an area not connecting.
I use a inexpensive wifi extender for security cameras in a different building, the wifi reaches there but it’s weak on my phone and the extender it picks up the signal better. The camera recorder requires Ethernet to use and the extender has a lan port. Sure I could run Ethernet but the extender is only being used for cameras needing very little bandwidth and speed.
Thanks Liron
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Using the wrong equipment for the task doesn’t mean that it’s never appropriate. I have a similiar situation to you, but to get a connection to another building, I’ve run the signal between electrical outlets. I use an extender to get the Wifi that is upstairs to be downstairs. For reasons that I won’t go into, there’s no other sensible way to do it.
That's what I said
I kind of wish you had covered Ethernet over Powerline Adaptors as well. As its a usually a much better answer than a "extender".
Have you done a video on coaxial cable ethernet adaptors?
Most houses have a coax outlet in every room.
i happen to have a wifi extender , it works just fine, but also because i have ethernet from the extender to my router - yes it was a pain in the ass to run the ethernet , but i have not had any issues with the extender; and i get good speeds to be honest.
A case use for an extender might be if you are wanting to add a "wired" Ethernet to a room in an older house or apartment that was built with no Ethernet wiring. Otherwise, I agree with you (the extender DOES slow things down) on this issue; slowing down to WiFi 3/G speeds or worse isn't ideal.
Any comments on the TP-Link upcoming ban? I feel it is unfortunate as their routers are built to last (They are my brand of choice).
I am looking into this TP-Link thing...its still under investigation and of course we hear only a fraction of whats actually going on. Is it a real issue or a political one? I am not sure at this stage - but I am looking
Cable & router - the best solution ever
How about my Text TV connection? Thanks for the video!
What was the first program you were using to show the link speed?
Thanks again great video.
Thanks for being here!
On one of you Speedtests was faster than your link speed, how is that possible.
❤❤❤❤❤ Down with fever, bro. I'll ask you two questions tomorrow. Love you!
Nice video👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼😊😊😊.
Glad you liked it!
Liron, on one of your videos you stated that the wifi booster vs. the repeater worked. Now you saying they dont work, i bought a booster , when it arrive i can only hope it works.
No. There is a difference between an extender and a repeater. See pinned comment
i have frontier also - id love to just replace the router - but the problem is i also have frontier video which relies on the frontier router for the guide obviously - i would love to find a solution to connect the STBs to a router of my choice and ditch the frontier router , but i don't know if a moca to ethernet adapter / bridge would even work properly .
I would love to try some of these gadgets however, my internet provider blocks and gear that isn't theirs....Sad situation But I still can watch your content....Thanks Mr. Segev
arggg frustrating - so you can't even buy your own router? What I do is use the service provider's device to get connectivity and then plug their device into my own router and do everything on my own equipment. Can you not do that?
@@chrischapinsr.4714 perhaps you have spectrum? They keep shutting down for some reason I've had more outages in the last 3 months than what I had in 4 years
I thought that’s against laws ,? You should be able to buy own if u live in USA
@@LironSegev You'd think so...But no. I live in a town of less than 12K people. The provider has a monopoly on this entire town. If you don't buy their internet...You don't get internet. So yeah there's that. Plus, the entire town is located in a bowl surrounded by mountains. Very limited as to options.
@@chrischapinsr.4714 Something sounds funny there. If a person is using their equipment to connect , how can they stop what's used beyond that point 🤔 Maybe check how it's connected ✌️
I tried an extender and found rhe same thing. I plugged in the extender half way to the weak area. I tested the signal the extwnder should be receiving by doing a speed test with my phone. Then right beside the extender, i signed on to it and found the speed was less than half. So the extender was retransmitting at less than half what it was receiving. Thought it was just the TP link device I purchased. Appears they are all near worthless.
Im using other router as extender, and both has same ssid ... no need to change ssid's
I was literally about to search for this exact video. UA-cam algorithm is on point today. 😂
UA-cam knows you too well 😅
Interesting video. Not sure what wifi extender you used for your tests - if you had used the ASUS AiMesh Extender (ASUS RP-AX58) in the mesh mode, I think the results would have looked different.
Literally the point of the video 😂
I picked up an old d-link extender from a thrift store and it worked fine(after I
Googled all the specs for it), but kept dropping the network, so I had to keep re-enrolling it - I think it may have been running too hot. Whatever the reason, eventually I gave up on it, good thing it only cost a couple bucks!
I agree - you get what you pay for. And if it works and you are happy to put up with a little bit of frustrations, stick with it.
My 'old school' WiFi extender works fine.
In fact, better than expected.
Cool
Your so lucky. Here in Western Australia the fastest nbn speed we can get is 67Mbs down. 18.5Mbs up.
"Here in Western Australia the fastest nbn speed we can get is 67Mbs down"
If you have nbn fibre connected to your property or if nbn is available to connect to your home, you can get gigabit internet, that's 1000Mbps internet speed! Shop around and check with your local ISP's to see if they have it.
I live in Sydney and only pay $130 for Gigabit(1000Mbps) internet a month. It used to be much more expensive than this, but demand, nbn accessibility and competition has seen these prices drop a lot in the last few years.
@ShinzoMachimoto no fttp here. Only fttn. In older suburbs. No love from nbn on older suburbs.
If I'm right this WiFi7 ASUS router doesn't support 6Ghz?
My Wifi extender extends the Wifi signal and I am happy with it. I never expected it to increase the speed and I wonder why anyone would.
A wifi extender acts as a repeater which reduces the speed as it increases the coverage. The entire point of the video is to show that you can get both: extend the coverage WHILE STILL getting faster speeds.
So you have a choice: use the extended to get more coverage at a reduced speed OR get a Mesh Node and increase coverage and get faster connectivity.
The choice is yours.
How many people realistically have Wi-Fi 6 routers let alone Wi-Fi 7 ones?
people are constantly upgrading. WiFi 6 has been around for a while now and people who skipped Wifi 6 are jumping right into WiFi 7. If you have the need, you upgrade. If you don't, you can still use a 2.4Gz wifi today if you don't need a decent internet and wifi speed - it still works.
You can't get any speed faster than what your ISP provides you.
no kidding
"what are LAN speeds"
I use Apple AirPort Extreme even though it's old it still works well for its age.
Perfect. If it works for you, no need to change.
@ thanks
It's not to increase your speed but to increase your range
see pinned comment
Would this item help me? I use my phone as a mobile hot spot. It fulfills my internet needs. However, signal strength varies from room to room. My apartment is a brick building, and 2 rooms out of 3 are on the side away from the cell tower, which is less than 0.2 mi away. I'd like a stronger signal in those 2 rooms. DSL is too expensive and I don't have a TV or cable.
The extenders need to work as access points to extend range.
Yes if you hard wire them
You seem to be using wi fi extender wrong, it's an extender for range not a boost of speed. It says so in the name. It's only a repeater.
See pinned comment
So in the case where you cant easily have a mesh, I **Would** say go down the extender route. Example. Customer has an ISP supplied DSL router and in a part of their home they do not have any Internet coverage. They install an extender and it solves the problem. The OTHER solution is to a) switch off the wifi from the ISP device, insert at least 2 WIFI access points in the home, one by the router, the other in affected area, and c) yes they could be mesh devices. UNFORTUNATELY the mesh solution may be way too complicated for the completely non techy person.
Massage chair. Nice. Does it actually do anything for aches and pains?
best investment I have made - so good and thankfully doesn't require any connectivity😜
@ Do you have any recommendations for a good chair?
there are so many so its down to personal preference and budget
@ Okay thanks! Much appreciated you replying, i’m sure your busy. Have a great Christmas and keep posting more great content!! 🎄🎄🤶
I have a WiFi/ethernet extender. (You "supposedly" can use it for WiFi or, by plugging-in an ethernet cable that can then be plugged-into the ethernet port on a laptop.
Is this even possible . . or did I waste my money?
Hey sorry. What's the difference between extender and mesh network? Don't they both do the same thing? Extend the wifi...
Yes but not the same. Watch this video and read the pinned comment
I watched your video on Ethernet Cable in which you said cable has stable connection then I used my extender as Access Point.
perfect - if you can hard wire it, then you are golden as it uses the ethernet cable for get the maximum speed!
I don't understand how an Ethernet extender works. The only physical connection between the modem and the extender is house wiring; not a Cat5 Ethernet cable. I'm sorry if this is a stupid questions.
Idk ive tested my wifi extender and i get relatively the same speed from the router and the extender. I only use the extender so I can have a wired connection to my ps5 for gaming
Ok👍
speedtest actually reports wrong speeds when i change my dns, weird bug ngl
People buy wifi extenders because they are cheap
american companies like intel, Asus, sell you expensive equipment which is fine if they work as expected
problem is.. like in the case of intels processor i9 14900 - if it does not work.. you as the customer, you are on your own
American companies can learn a thing or two about customer commitment like japanese companies like toyota or lexus
Asus is a Taiwanese company
7:20 👎NO clickable links in the video. There is nothing there. Adblockers will not show them. ALL links in the description.
So let me make sure I understand....you are upset because you can't click the link because your AdBlocker blocks them even though the videos and links are there?
Did I get that right?
Your extender must be a dodgy one, my Netgear extender doubles the speed
I guess I'm gonna switch to Mesh from an ordinary WiFi extender.
only if you want to see a massive difference! I would start with a WiFi 7 router (I have links in the description) and if you still need more coverage then upgrade. This is why I like Asus as you don't need to buy everyone at once.
My extenders work great they fill 4 dead areas and work great! I reset them periodically and bam everything comes back online faster lol
If it ain't broke don't fix it!
How can the link speed with the access points be lower than the speedtest results?
Link speed is supposed to be the max speed at that point, the actual chimed speed to the router, so how can the internet speed test, beats that by far?
Good question. The "link speed" refers to the maximum data transfer rate between the device and whatever it is connecting to (router/ extender/ node). This is limited by the type of connection and port assigned to the connection.
The "internet speed" refers to the speed of your connection to the internet service provider, which can be much higher if the router cable and port can handle the full bandwidth.
@@LironSegev Thanks for your near-to-instantaneous reply! Yet, We totally agree on that! My question lies into this. If the Speedtest client runs on your mobile device - the MAX speed should be that of the link speed, regardless on how fast your internet speed is, the bottleneck would be the link speed. So how can the speed test report higher than that?
To put it in another way, if you have 1Gbps symmetric on your router, and you connect via a UTP 5 to your router, you can''t get over 100Mbps, on your testing machine.
So how?
@georgekaridis7677 I get that. My understanding is that with these routers you get that ultra wide 329Mhz channels that doubles the transmission capacity so it allows multiple data streams 2x2 dual-band Wi-Fi router and 1024-QAM.
So I get that you can't get "more than the max speed" but I assume what is happening is a more efficient data transfer which results in registering those faster speeds.
@@LironSegev You may have a point there. That would mean that the link speed changes when the requested bandwidth hits the top, the router may give you more of the available spectrum so the actual link speed would also rise, thus the higher (than the originally measured link-speed) internet speed. Otherwise that can't be achieved, in my books at least. Nevertheless, that's an interesting piece of equipment :)
Thanks Liron, Happy holidays all
its hard to show the other benefits of Mesh like the "feel" of a more stable and less sluggish connections with multiple wireless devices connecting at the same time. The way the Mesh handles the connectivity to each device and bypassing congestion spots is not something you can show.
I converted over to Mesh years ago, way before Asus became a sponsor, and we havent looked back and why I have no issues talking about a product I love. We just all work better both at work and at home (with less "is the wifi down, oh wait nevermind, its back" 😜)
Really appreciate the civil discussion vs the usual internet trolls!
have an epic holiday season and all the best for 2025!
Question, could I use that asus router to provide internet separately from my iot devices. For example, I would want the laptops to keep the existing vpn service and then let the IOT's use the ASUS protection separately.
Why not? It's like using an AP...
see pinned comment
Also . . what is "link" speed?
Conclusion: The USA has shitty SLOW internet speed compared to my country.
You should move to Australia. India has better internet speeds than us. Don't you dare mention fast bowlers!
What do you think of Lora?
Powerline network adapter is less expensive and more reliable solution.
@@bonce8022 I find that powerline is a bit of hot or miss. If you're lucky it works great. But it really depends. In my previous house it worked pretty well, but in my new house l, some outlets just aren't able to connect to the adapter that is hooked up to the modem/router.
my best tech i recently bought was ugreen switcher. it allows me use 1 set of keyboard and mouse to quickly switch between 2 laptops. i also love the razer gigantis desk matts as they helped my work space. i have a 3 sided office work space with spinnin chair, so i bought 3 razer gigantis matts. i actually use shelves as desks and raised the shelves up high to give leg room. i also boight 2 long wallcorner lamps that shine light off of wall for a warmer lighting less direct lighting. this lighting is a long tube lighting from floor to up high near shelf heights im using, 3 shelves and the 2 corner areas has these lamps.
nice setup!
What can't I adjust my video playback speed? Unfortunately, that's the only way I can have time to watch videos. Don't even have time to watch a movie during the week. Oh well, guess I'll never know
What setup steps did you have to go thru to setup this ASUS node to your WiFi system? I assume your main router is not ASUS. Did you do it thru ASUS app or app of main Router.
The main router is an Asus router so just click on the option to add a mesh node either in the app on via the web browser, and it just sets it up.
Curious how RINGs doorbell chime/extender work? I needed one in the basement form my channel as my router is the opposite end and 1 floor away. Seems ok but did zero testing 😂
I havent tested it myself but my guess is that its optimized to give priority to RING products so should be ok (if its the same product I am thinking about)
@@LironSegev Kinda my thought- but that's OK, cuz the Ipad is downstairs monitoring who's visiting my track (thru garage) as they arrive anyway
basically mesh is just a more powerful router costing a lot more...I always thought these affordable extenders captured the signal, boost it and broadcast that enhance signal...
The terms "router" and "mesh node" are often used in the context of home Wi-Fi networks, and while they are related, they are not interchangeable. Here's a breakdown of their differences:
Router:
Central Hub: A traditional router is the central hub of your home network. It connects to your modem to receive the internet signal and then broadcasts that signal wirelessly to your devices (phones, laptops, etc.).
Single Point of Access: All devices on your network connect directly to the router.
Mesh Node:
Part of a System: A mesh node is a component of a mesh Wi-Fi system. These systems use multiple nodes (including the main router) placed throughout your home.
Extended Coverage: The nodes work together to create a single, seamless Wi-Fi network, eliminating dead zones and providing strong Wi-Fi coverage across a larger area.
Interconnected: Mesh nodes communicate with each other wirelessly, allowing devices to seamlessly switch from one node to another as you move around your home, ensuring a consistent connection.
Imagine a single light bulb in a large room. That's your traditional router. It might light up the center of the room well, but the corners might be dim. A mesh Wi-Fi system is like having multiple smaller lights placed strategically throughout the room
Just get Unifi -- so much easier, better and more sightly.
If you can find a fix or work around for laptops like Gigabyte AORUS 17X Core i9 RTX 4080 LAPTOP there unlocked CPU but you cant overclock anything on them as they locked disabled overclocking.....which is strange Lol if you can find a fix for something like that i bet thousands of more people would be happy :P
You lost me when you started hawking your sponsors hardware.
Awwww...you are so right. I should rather show you stuff that I don't believe in. Totally right. What was I thinking.
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@@LironSegev I'm sure you meant well.
It seems unhelpful to "test" a range extender with a link speed slower than the existing download speed.
This can ONLY slow down the performance.
Just as it seems that your existing router was slowing down your "spectacularly" fast internet connection.
I actually gave this video a thumbs down. I can't remember the last time I did that.
I have never had, and don't expect that I ever will have, an internet connection that is faster than any router or range extender that I own.
It's ok. Clearly you don't have clue how networking works.
Btw, my Internet speed is 1Gb upload and download.
This channel is obviously way above your intellect so best not to watch any more videos.
K bye 👋
I don’t trust wifi I pay for my own data
What do you mean?
Paper and a pen/pencil keeps the data safe from hackers. 😂
Asus aimesh. Never look back.
agreed - I have used Asus well before they were a sponsor on the channel - super easy to set up and massive emphasis on security.
Across Australia, 52 mbps upload is the limit due to Rupert Murdoch and Australia's version of the Republican party (the Liberal party) protection of Rupert's fox monopoly.
Are you south African
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We are presently refurbishing our new residence and are gonna set up a new network for the property, and l just saw this! 🧐😱
How timely indeed! 👍🏾👏🏾 📶
Perfect timing! Mesh is the way to go - simple as that. There are so many benefits which you can't show in a video like how so many devices just work better with less lag so you don't feel as much of a sluggish network as you would with extenders.
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@@MichaelBeale The check for $0.00 is on its way!
Also . . what is "link" speed?