QuinLED: RGB, RGBW, RGBCW, RGBCCT LED strip, what does it all mean?
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- Опубліковано 6 вер 2024
- When selecting a color LED strip it can get confusing what to pick! So what is the difference between RGB, RGBW or RGBWW and RGBCW, and what does RGB+CCT mean? Let's take a look at that.
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Featured in the video:
RGB strip: geni.us/dvdj
RGBW strip: geni.us/5tTz
RGB+CCT strip: geni.us/PFMxN4E
RGBCCT strip: geni.us/Kvnqd9
I wrote a dedicated article about these types of LED strip, take a look! It also has more shopping links: quinled.info/2...
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For more information about LED lighting, LED strips, the custom DIY QuinLED controller please see my quinled.info/ website!
Page about QuinLED-Quad: quinled.info/2...
Page about QuinLED-Deca: quinled.info/2...
Page about Quality of White Light: quinled.info/2...
Page about my favorite White LED strip: quinled.info/2...
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Not just LED strips but RGBWWCCT downlights. So many acronyms and factories don't bother to explain. Thanks for explaining this.
Hands down, best video out there on the realities and capabilities of the different LED strip types. Clarifies what I need to do to solve my voltage drop issues with my long run of RGBW LEDs. Thanks very much keep up the great work!
This guy is a legend for making this
Thank you excellent presentation!
Would love to see the white light video. Especially how to find decent white strips from China.
Thanks for this. Would love to see more info on white LED strips. Cheers!
One other reason for multi-color LEDS with white LEDS is that you need multiple colours to re-produce full spectrum "white light". White LED emitters are at best approximations of "white light" and will leave colour rendition deficient in specific colours, adding additional coloured light helps with this.
that's where the CRI value (or better yet, R9 or better yet, TM30 values) come into play. there are high color rendering white LED strip options out there. That way you won't have to supplement the light with a specific part of the spectrum.
Check out waveform lighting
This was the most informative explanation there is on UA-cam about these lights.
I'm currently looking to configure 4M of kitchen "under the top cabinet" lighting.
Primary I would like to use 4000K LEDs, but while not in use for cooking I would like to dim them and use RGB lighting to enhance the kitchen ambiance.
I'm worried that rgbcct or rgb-cct won't deliver enough lumen to have a good working environment.
I've already looked for V-shaped LED profiles that can house 2 parallel strips, but can't find any.
What would your advice be?
My dream setup would be a modular system comprising:
- A strip containing interleaved CCT white (with high CRI) and RGB LEDs in high density COB form all running at 5v and individually switchable
- Dimming via *randomised* PWM (in a stochastic pattern) implemented within the LED ICs to eliminate flickering
- DC-DC converters that can be clipped *around* the strip (so as not to obscure the LEDs) to perform power injection wherever needed
- A channel with mount points for the converters - with the aluminium itself used as the ground and an embedded wire for Vcc
This way the whole system could be run at 24 or even 36v, it would be suitable for both general and accent lighting, the strip itself could be made both thinner and lighter as it wouldn't need to carry any serious current.
A more budget-friendly version would have a wider strip with the white and RGB LEDs mounted in parallel at a density of maybe 100/metre, then the converter/injector could clip across the strip.
Poh some of the things either don't exist yet or are very very expensive. But LED tech is improving, check my latest livestream the ending part, it has some new 24v addressable strips which are very promising!
Best video. U really explained everything now I have a full understanding of the differences. Thanks again. Great content!
Great explanation! Love the demo
Yes please love a video on more white strips!!
You help me so much thank you
LOL, what the hell does it all mean.....that is EXACTLY what I thought, thanks for making the video to clear it up
Thanks for taking the time to explain this to us. I've been looking at RGB effects for about a year now, following the AMD Ryzen buildup to the 7nm release. I don't find an approach to RGB lighting that I care for particularly, so I'm looking into designing something of my own bent. I also have a hard time finding an ATX computer case I like, so that's on the old 5 year plan, ha. Thanks you kindly.
Thank you for this great video, I learned a lot. I also love your slow speaking english and your pronouncing, very easy to understand, thanks!
Great vid!
Thank you, very informative and helpful.
Totally excellent informative video thanks. The controller certainly peaks my interest.
Never seen a video like this! Good work!
Very useful video
Yes please more LED Strip Videos! Ich would Like to See an comparison between some Qualität rgbcct Strips and the Philips Hue strips
bruder kurz englisch mit deutsch gemixt
Well explained.....excellent. DUDE know his LEDs.
great video man you will soon have over 1 million you deserve it
I find that for "normal" lighting with led strips, it's more convenient for many to have a physical wall control. I personally hate using button dimmers and prefer rotary dimmers. Wonder if there's a decent rotary controller, or anything that could be retrofitted as one, to be found on the market to operate an rgbw strip as a dimmer for the white color, or at least a white led strip, with a decent frequency to avoid the strobe effect. I used a run of the mill pwm with a rotary control for my kitchen counter lights, but it has lousy pwm.
Using your controller would be perhaps overkill, and unless there's an easy way for a person who's not into programming esp boards to hook up a rotary encoder to it I'd go for a simpler solution.
I found this a day too late. I just ordered a bunch of stuff from China! I hope I didn't screw up! Eeek! Excellent video!
Note* China's stuff breaks ez
REALLY helpful, thanks
Tq for explanation
Thank you
that's a great vid mate, thank you
I will use strip leds:
1) between a tear in the plaster on the ceiling and on the wall 2) around the tv 3) above the kitchen sink 4) behind the bathroom mirror (IP65)
Which brand and
type, power, etc. do you currently advise for these one? I would like your opinion
5) Do you have a video explaining which font to place correctly for the tapes. Thanks a lot for your help !!!!
Wow, that's a lot of questions in one, these things are best discussed on my Discord server, but let's give it a try.
First, for all LED strip recommendations, check out quinled.info and what's in the video description, I update those regularly and list items I've tested myself.
1. I don't know really what to answer here without seeing a picture what you are talking about. You want white, RGB, both?
2. Around the TV is cool, I use some static high CRI warm white for that to give the TV a nice glow on the wall but you can also go all out with colors that follow the image on your screen with like Hyperion.
3. Above the kitchen sink I would advise high CRI Warm White in IP65 for when there are splatters and such. You also need the high CRI since you need accurate red colors in the kitchen which cheap strip makes look horrible!
4. Again, I'd use the same stuff as in the kitchen. Colors are cool and all but accent and mood lighting at best, you want some good High CRI White and maybe add color as an extra. Again IP65 is a good choice here too, prevents rust on the strip and such in a humid environment.
5. I'm not sure what you mean with font, you mean a controller or plug?
Again, for all recommendations, check the links in the description. :)
Can these LED strips be addressed directly with DC from a battery, or do they always need a LED driver? I connected some RGBW strip straight to a battery using the +24V to the battery positive and the W line to the 0V of the battery and it burned out straightaway. I don’t understand why since it was 24V LED strip and my battery was a 4S LiFePO4 (about 13V), so the voltage was lower than the strip could handle and the polarity was definitely right?
Very good review, thanks.
Very informative thanks for uploading
Thank you, thats are the answers that i was looking for!!!
Doesn't density of the chips come into play here? With the RGB+CCT all in 1 chip you get more chips per meter. At the 5 minute mark in the video the bottom row has color and warm white at every chip while the middle row has it every other chip.
is rgbtic the same as rgbtww and what is rbgcct? if i get a lamp how what style could i have 2 colours on one leg fading in and out like mixing of the 2 and what is dream colour? i after a lamp that can display both colours at once say half blue and half pink or have them mixing in and out softly not a fade or flash options n normal rgb is dream color same as rgbic
Hi, do you know if is any chance to connected to shelly rgbw2 led strip like COB CCT ?
What are the channels for on led controllers?
Does anyone know how to connect a 6 pin RGB+CCT strip to a ESP8266 with WLED? Any help would be appreciated.
I have also been looking for information on this unfortunately I haven’t had any luck
@gto.eduardo958 you'll need a MOSFET to use PWM per channel. So if you have RGB you need 3 channels and if you have RGB+CCT you need 5. I have several DIY projects you can build on my website and am working on pre-assembled controllers.
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I'm still confused between RGBW+CCT and RGBWCCT. What does the plus sign mean? I've searched the internet and people seem to use those interchangeably.
I think you mean RGBCCT and RGB+CCT? People will use that interchangeable, if we would nitpick it would be that RGBCCT would have to be in the same package, so like a 5050 style package. And that RGB+CCT indicates it's composed of multiple packages and the white diodes are in a different package then the RGB ones. I don't think normal people would pay enough attention to that tough.
Cool video!! I have 1 question, My led strip says RGBWY does the Y stand for yellow or something else?
Bookmarks Custom controller mention 4:00; Info & controller 8:55:
very informative
Very Nice Presentation! But i think that the light you use in this video does not reproduce colors accurate... (maybe is the camera or the edit software or my tv set)
Do you sell your Led Controller for consumers?
See if I two different led strips and connect them together will they work the same ??
Thanks, I learned a lot. :)
have you seen RGBW and UV combined, what could be the possible issues with this
You wouldn’t see the UV though
So there’s no point
For down lights, I've found that RGBW are often cold W. But here, it seems to be that for strips, the W is warm. I'm wondering if that is 'standard'?
No sadly, more like bad practice and understanding, confusing it for everyone. RGBW isn't anything other then that it has a white LED, doesn't say what type.
Great video! thanks a lot
If you have a rgbww, When you turn the white and the blue on, would this be similar to rgb-cw?
Yes and no, you can influence the color of the light, but not get the same spectrum so it'll still behave and look very differently.
This really helped! I am making a big floor lamp and wanted to use WS2812B RGBWW LED but I am afraid it won't be bright enough... Do you have any suggestions how we can connect a COB LED with an Arduino? Thank you!
I would love to see a good white light video.
Just bought the btf 5 in 1 rgbwww they named it its rgb with cool and warm white what controller and powersupply do i need not bothered about remote as long as the reciecer is ir as i will use my logitech harmony elite remote
Sir, the rgbcct, can esp32 be used to control it and if no, what controller can be used for wled?
An ESP32 can do it using MOSFETs, check the Analog section on my website!
Is RBG only good enough for outdoor, house lighting for permanent Christmas/Holiday lighting and still produce a passable white?
Sure, as accent lighting it's fine, just not as primary lighting you want to have at least a dedicated white LED ans very much preferably a High CRI one.
yes I want to buy some for the longest while now, but I am so overwhelmed with all the options
Yeah, there is a lot out there, hopefully my guides on quinled.info help a bit?
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Any recommendations for the best RBGCW strip supplier in China? Ideally who doesn't use harmful chemicals in their manufacture ?
Do you recommend any RGBWCCT brand? I want to make a ring light out of it. If you have suggestions let me know, and what brand of high-quality white LED light do you use?
Did you look in the video description? It's all right there :)
Intermit.Tech I need new glasses 🤓 thank you for the videos it’s awesome.
Yes please...And are there any rgb strips that actually are ´waterproof??..I need some for my fishtanks,not in the water but under the lid!
Are you saying RBGCW is best for video light thankyou for the info cheers
In theory, but no RGBW (or other white variant) has a decent enough (90+) CRI and thus are very bad as video lights. Check out my article on the Quality of White light on quinled.info I also have strips listed which I've tested myself and are excellent (I use those as video lights myself)
@@IntermitTech thankyou I have looked
a Sk6812 in rgbw (NW) is what your looking for
Is it possible to use simple 5050 White stript with your quin led controller?
Yes, I actually have an article on my website with the white strips I recommend. The QuinLED-Quad and QuinLED-Deca are suited for those.
Yes LED white light quality
The retailer i would like to purchase led light strips from, has KWB and ZDM in the description, what do these codes mean, thanks for a great channel.
Euhm, I have no clue, not generic terms I think. Join the discord and send me the links, I'll check it out. :)
Hi. I'll use a Gleodopto Zigbee RGB + CCT controller. Can use it on RGBCCT sytip LED or only on RGB + CCT? Thanks!
I haven't used those controllers myself but did hear good things about them. I think you can use them on all variants of strip, just don't know if you can have all channels on at the same time or not. :)
What of these is better? I saw your comment on Aliexpress. I dont know what buy!
All three are good for what they are. If you want RGB+CCT the expensive one with everything in one package looks best, but it's also most expensive
I am planning to do a project over a wall on 16ft in height and 6ft wide fire place with translucent sheets. Looking for backlighting to pass through acrylic sheet. Can I go with RGBCCT 12V 5m cable? Also, what's the best power I need and wanted to know if the following strip works with WLED software using your diguno?
Strip: DC12V RGB CCT Color Changing LED Strip Light, 5050 RGB 2835 Warm White Daylight White Double Row Super Bright RGBWW Non-Waterproof Flexible LED Tape Light(DC12V 5meter/16.4ft)
Asin: B08CRCMD1N
You are combing a digital LED controller with an analog strip it seems. That won't work unless you add a dig2analog in between. Maybe look for a digital strip? Also CCT is though with digital strips and white quality generally isn't great but as long as it's accent lighting, it's ok.
RGBCCT strip for WLED doesn't exist BTW. Maybe consider analog? Or just RGBW but it depends what the primary purpose is, is it white lighting? Accent or effects?
@@IntermitTech Thank you so much for your reply. I am a huge fan. Could you please recommend me a RGBW digital strip(no price compromise) which can work best for 10M wire WLED software?
Sure! Check out my last video about 24v COB strip the RGBW variant in there is the best you van get if you also need white light, sadly a bit few addressable zones but other then that, great!
@@IntermitTech awesome! Thank you so much!!Do you have a video where you made 5v controller running with 24v led strip? I have watched several of your videos and also gone through your page was unsuccessful.
I am still felling implausible you replying to my comments
Thank you. What I still don‘t get: when I have rgbCw, I shuld be able to create a warm light with adding rg. No?
A little bit, maybe? The white in an RGBW (with Cold White) strip isn't great to start with. You can make it warmer by adding mostly Red into the mix but on everything strip I've ever tried such combinations the results where not that great. On the strip where all the chips are in the same package and with a good diffuser over it to make it blend together as much as possible would be the best it could be, but even then it won't come close to matching a good Super Warm White LED.
Intermit.Tech thanks for sharing your experience! I wanted to use a shelly to control the strip. This thing has 4 channels only. I will probably use 2 controllers. One with rgbww and one cw strip. This way the user may either switch on cold white with one and everything else with the rgbw controler. I will use a diffusor cover anyway.
Your help his appreciated, thanks.
You could try adding red and green. Red and green light combined makes yellow. So to make the light be that super light orangey color, add a little red, but less green.
I bought led strips for under my car. They are rgbw. I wired them into my dome lights so they dim on and off. The power is constant, the ground makes the dim effect.
The main question is, can i make the red come on only? It comes on white and when full ground is reached it changes to red. I only would like to see red. I dont care if i cant use any other colors either. Please help!
There is also a remote and a single box before all the strips. I dont need the remote.
If it's analog LED strip, just only connect the Red channel to ground and te normal + wire and then only red should come on. Each color is it's own ground channel.
@@MonkellD As long as you are using 12v with a 12v LED strip, you don't need the controller. Just remove it and hook up the channel of the color you want to ground and the plus wire the plus and it should work!
Just realized it is rgb 5050 smd leds 12v. Thats still ok right?
wich one is the best
Interested
the best review
this is the only place online i could find that has the actual name for CCT. seems weird information on this stuff is so sparse...
thats a nice microphone ...what brand and model ?
It's called a NEAT Bumblebee you can find a video about it on my channel :)
I see a praxis box in the back.
Where are you from?
I am Dutch, live near Den Bosch. :)
@@IntermitTech I'm Dutch too I live in dordrecht
I like your vids very educating.
Do you have any advice for me on a matter (since you dabbled quite a bit in the subject).
I'm looking to power the whole house with led through POE .
Addressable LEDs seem the future.
I've been looking into dmx512 to drive the whole system coupled with home assistant.
Is this in your opinion feasible or is this still a little to futuristic to be feasible?
Poh, there is a lot of issues with that still I think. I know Ubiquity have a POE powered lights but it's quite expensive. And there lies the problem, POE is generally not cheap to implement and then there is the voltage being around 48v and LEDs need around 3v, so addressable LEDs aren't going to work.
Maybe join the Discord server if you'd like the discuss more! :)
Yo good
But what's the point of adding extra LEDs? Red, green, and blue are the primary colors of light. You only need those to create any color. Warm white? Well, yellow light is a combination of red and green, so orange would mean less green than red. So if you have all three colors turned all the way up, and turn down the blue and green, but keeping the blue dimmer than the green, you should technically get something like warm white.
Purely technically, yes light works that way. In reality with LEDs it makes for a horrible light. White light is a special king of light and needs some more finesse to be pleasent or even functionally white. Check out the articles on my website about this, that explains why. RGB white is horrible and will never be good because it doesn't have the right spectrum of lights to combine. Even just the issue that it's 3 LEDs inside of a single package which throws off 3 shadows and thus everything gets horrible fringing makes it a no go. So in theory yes, in practice, absolutely not usable.
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I'm greedy, I want the RGBWCCT to also be addressable.
RgbW strips suxs the blue light bleeds into the white and your get a white blue.🧐🧐
No, that wouldn't be a true rgb-w... The separate "w" is an actual, SEPARATE white led.
@@starmc26 I bought some RGBW and the blue led bleeds light and make white glow. and you get a white-blue colour.
@@chadellett4696 yeah that's not the strip, it's the controller
@@starmc26 no set the blue to 255 max brightness and the white section will glow due to the blue UV bleed
@@starmc26 can i send you an email with some pics to show you?
You dutch?
Yup, what gave it away? ;)
Still didn't explain RGBWW wth
RGBWW is a "wrong term" because it can basically mean multiple things. I prefer either RGB+CCT (if we're talking dual white) or RGBW and the specifying the color temperature. Because then it's always clear, check out my video about it here: ua-cam.com/video/f_B7X9OLouQ/v-deo.html
Men i'm confused it sounds like a wrestling game...all the Ledstrips..lol