To the Conclave Anchor let’s accept a statement: the world of cinema has four Masters. One, Fellini of Italy, second Bergman of Sweden, third Kurosawa of Japan and lastly Ray of CALCUTTA. understand something, Ray started a movement that didn’t follow the traditional song and dance. He was a narrator of a story of human values. And these remained locked in the mindset of followers and students who were gazing at it with intellect.
man i agree with u but let me tell u don't get frustrated or disappointmented for fellow indians not recognising him for his much deserved strata idians don't know art and cinema but for world cinema and international audience and lover of cinema he is worshipped and hailed so why worry prithivi te jodi 99% lok bhul hoy tar mane ei na je tui oi 1% er moddhe theke o dukkho pabe amra thik r ki chai do we need to argue with those idiots who have only seen those 90s utter bogus cinema and today remake be happy for satyajit roy's greatness let fellow indians not recognise him so what martin scorsese is a fanboy of him aswell as wes anderson and many more late lagends and modern filmakers !!!!!
For me Sabyasachi will always be the best Feluda ever..he was so natural , you would never feel he was acting...i am from Udupi but a ardent fan of Feluda.
Many people say that Feluda is actually Satyajit Ray himself . All the characteristics of Feluda: Tall , Sincere , Witty , knowledgeable are the qualities of Ray.
There is a big difference. Ray was a great enthusiast of music and had encyclopedic knowledge in it (later he became a prolific composer). Feluda, on the other hand didn't have much knowledge of music or musical instruments. It is difficult to think Satyajit Ray without his music but I cam always think Feluda as a non-musical man🤣 Lastly, Ray was married at a very early age (that's also a love marriage, opposing relative's opinion). Till 39, Feluda is cellibate with NO love interest🤣.
@@govindanashkar8436: But 90 percent of their personlaties match The Dignity of Feluda and making fun of Lalmohan Babu stories are all characteristics of Ray. Many people who met Ray say that in varous interviews
@@rchatterjee2837 Well maybe 'sense of humour' would have been a better word than 'making fun'. Soumitra Chatterjee himself had told that he had asked Ray, that sketch of Feluda resembles him only. Ray laughed and replied that people were telling that feluda sketch looks more like Soumitra only. But yeah, I agree, sense of observation, intelligence, general knowledge, leadership and sense of humour; there is a lot of Ray present in Feluda. I feel, Ray was a self-confessed fan of Arthur Conan Doyle and idolised Holmes and Prof Challenger from a very young age. Holmes, blended with mind and personality of young Ray has given birth of Feluda and Prof Shonku is another projection of veteran Ray with Prof Challeger.
Bengal is not Feluda. Feluda died when Satyajit Ray passed away. When you say the discussion on Feluda is Bengal you are exposing total bankruptcy of intellectual ability. Satyajit Ray reinvented Rabindranath Bibhutibhushan and showed extreme respect to them. But he equally took contemporary Tarashanksr Shankar Sunil Ganguly Ramaoada Roy's work and adapted them. Your statement shows you want to live 30 years ago. Enough of celebrating Vivekananda Subhash Bose. Time has come to move up and critically examining everybody. Feluda was Satyajit Ray's alter ego. Nobody can interpret Feluda. And what we get is caricature and absolute nonsense. It is an insult to sense and sensibility and they get away because of hero worship of certain section of people who has no understanding of art and what once Bengal represented in art and culture. Do not support these guys.
@@xarup support who "these guys" and where isn't new things adapted or done/appreciated...ekta toh notun actors der e section ache jader standard ta bhalo.....well appreciated ora....o ota ke pochhondo kre bleche tar mddhe ato al bal tottho,assumption na dileo toh cholto
@@stxfdt1240 I think you have no idea of art and culture and evolution of art. Art is a contemporary phenomenon and something becomes permanent when that art breaks the time shackle. Today's Bengali cinema has no such talent barring a few who just does not matter. They are so ordinary they do not know how to define a commercial art 2which can breaks the boundary of class of people. Bengali cinema of yester years reached the urban and rural community. There is no commercial cinema today which is equally acceptable by entire crowd. In cinema communication happens remotely. It needs huge intellectual ability to invent that in the commercial space. For example what antic of Rajanikanth would be acceptable to mass crowd is extremely intellectual innovation. Bengali cinema is following what was acceptable 50 years back and people like you who are living in the well are saying wah wah. But the world has moved on. Feluda is a historical phenomenon of golden age nothing new and absolutely obsolete. Better you understand otherwise some last hope (who made good cinema but nobody watches like Rajloxmi O Srikanto or Robibar) will not be made.
@@sundeedrukhsad3530 2nd May dekhte dekhte chole ashbe Hain jani onek maash ache kintu ektu koshto korte hobe Aar Srijit boleche date ta change kore May er aagey i release kore dite paare Fingers crossed sheta hoye
Bengali cinema has got most national and international awards. But Indian like to called Bengali cinema as regional cinema. They don't want to discuss or listen about it.As an Indian I think this is very unfortunate .
What do you think about Malyalam Cinema or Assamese cinema? Regional or National. How many bollywood films have you watched and how many films in 'Jasari' language?
Ekta govinda r aditya...duto maura marka namok mal eshrche comments e....eder theke pls shabdhane thakben....era nijeder reflection ayena teh dheke handel mare
Tota is actually right and babuda as well; feluda is regional language specific. S. Homes became popular as english is a world language. Bollywood will definitely ruin the character and srijit is always looking for his pocket although satyajit ray need be respected nationally for what he had achieved for india.
কারণ চরম অপ্রিয় সত্যি হলো হিন্দি ভাষীরা আমাদের মানে বাঙালিদের পাত্তাই দেয় না। কিন্তু আমরা ওদের মাথায় তুলে নাচানাচি করতে ভালবাসি। কিন্তু দক্ষিণ ভারতীয়রা মাথায় তুলে নাচানাচি করে না বলে ওরা দক্ষিণ ভারতীয়দের সম্মান করে।
Ami ranchi theke engineering korechi r 4 ta bochor o khane giye thekechi... আমি khub valo jani bangali ra odher kache just akta mojar beeshoy.... R amar sathe jara chilo bangali tara to ro aktu opore ora nije k bagali bolto naa sudhu moja hobe tar jaro... আমি bagali hochi thakhbo r ota amar gorbo 🖤..
বাঙালি দের আজ এই অবস্থার একমাত্র কারণ হলো বাংলার নোংরা পলিটিক্স । আল ব্যাল নেতাদের জন্য গোটা বাংলার ইমেজ টা খারাপ হোয়ে গেছে। আমি কোনো নির্দিষ্ট দলের হোয় কথা বলছি না। সব দল ই সমান। সবাই চাইছে কীকরে নিজে খাবো তাতে দেশ বা রাজ্য চুলোই যাক। একবার আমার লেখা টা ভেবে দেখবেন ।
Simply brilliant Conversation. My Fav 3 people in film industry - Big fan. As long as the Bengali nation survives, "Satyajit" Ray and "Feluda" shall live forever.
@@govindanashkar8436 it is his view ri8 >? why it has to be best globally why we cant we be ok if our views of the best dont match? all our situations are diff , i feel sabyasachi is better coz i was born during his term , might be ur days was during soumitra's term , lot of things r diff so please try to be ok if the views for the best dont match.
@@ankushBanerjee2002 views without logic is the first hallmark of an uninformed mind. My question stands, how is it possible to conclude that Sabyasachi is a better Feluda than legendary soumitra chatterjee in Sonar Kella?
@@ankushBanerjee2002 just because Sabwasachi was born in your time makes him better feluda than Soumitra? Great logic! Anyway, Feluda is written in late 60s, 70s, get used to it (fact) 🙏
The common hindi audience needs to understand the cultural nuances of Bengal to grasp the original Feluda. In fact the name "Feluda" has a Bengali touch to it. Its not just Bengali, if you watch a Malayalam, Tamil, Marathi etc movies, you will understand the story but you may not understand the inside jokes or subtle expressions that makes a movie or actor special. To make Feluda global, you need to re-write the whole thing keeping in mind the hindi audience. Regarding merchandise, I don't think Govt. has anything to do with merchandise. The production house needs to take initiative. And off course Satyajit Ray museum can be created, but again we have a Gandhi museum in Delhi and the only visitors are couples and UPSC aspirants who go there to study.
Why is Boria Majumdar here?? Is he capable of hosting such events pertaining to entertainment? He doesn't know minimum level of knowledge and ethics regarding Satyajit Ray. Else, the discussion is fantastic ❤️🔥
I tried to search feluda films with subtitles on UA-cam I couldn't find it. Either it should be dubbed in Hindi, so most of Indian public could enjoy it.
Conclaves happen in English even in India Today South conclave. Don't tell me Bengalis have problem with English now, after their prolonged problem with Hindi
@@shayakguha1793 Because it is not... Hindi along with bangla and other numerous ones, are official languages of India... India does not have any national language.... This national language fascism mustn't be allowed....
I agree with Tota on the "lost in translation" part. Comparison with Byomkesh by Srijit is not valid. Byomkesh is a complex character written for late teens and adults while Feluda series was written for the 10-16 demographic. Today's kids of that age have lost that innocence to appreciate a women free story-line that is watered down to serve to kids of an era 30-50 years back. Even Srijit made 'Ray' recently and the original stories made for that demographic were 'substantially' altered to serve to a pan-Indian public. They were above average story-telling, but the enjoyment that was etched reading the original was missing while watching 'Ray'. In contrast, watching the Golden Fortress (Sonar Kella) was more enjoyable than reading the book which was already a master level work.
feluda is not international or even national in that respect for only one reason Ray himself hinted the reason feluda has not sex content and the word crime is inherently related to sex thats why he himself expressed his sadness as he was not able to incorporate sexual content in feluda series as it was mainly written for adolescents, not adults
Its really futile to speak about making Feluda global when the fans are intolerant to accept any changes in their favourite detectives. Detective Byomkesh Bakshi received severe flak from Byomkesh fans although it is the best Byomkesh ever made after Chiriakhana.
Refusal to accept the change and modernity; the same reason your comment has fetched only one like and probably my reply would end up having nil. Bengalees are the same people who had rejected Satyajit Ray's "Aporajito" & "Kanchanjungha". And, they were determined to make "Detective Byomkesh Bakdhi" flop in box office since, it is much ahead of its time.👍
Is it only because, it is only "EAST" conclave that you brought in "Satyajit Ray" India Today group???? you are in a way the same 'Talwachat' media .. isn't it...? SR, SB, RNT et al
But I still feel Byomkesh stories are far more mature and complex than Feluda. Byomkesh criminals commit crime because of Passion, Poverty and jealously. But Feluda criminals commit crime because of mainly money
I too prefer Byomkesh over Feluda. But it has to be accepted that Byomkesh is for mature audience and has a psychological touch to it whereas Feluda is mostly for children and teenage audience. Having said that both of the characters have their own charm and speciality.
Agree with Tota regarding language & dictions. Translated Gitanjali doesn't give that feel & that comfort like that in Bengali (read it vernacular). For example, চিত্ত যেথা ভয় শূন্য উচ্চ যেথা শির vs where the mind is without fear where the head is held high. Mind it, translation was done by the poet himself.
Why doesn't any one talk about Ritwik Ghatak ? I think indian cinema ranking of quality cinema bengal would be at number 1 and malayalam number 2 anything else is a distant 3 !
I am from Bangladesh. I don't know I should ask it or not. Why the moderator emphasizing to make Feluda in hindi? Does it mean that to be an indian film, it has to be in hindi? If we bear that philosophy in mind, there will be no Feluda like creation/literature will come in future from WB.
Mr. O'Brien might be too scared to sleep at night following that sudden accusations and 'threatening' appeal from Boria Majumder for creating a musuem. XD.
Sir I think we are the ones in Hindi cinema who always watch Khan and Johar's movie......It's better to watch Satyajit Ray, Mahesh Bhatt, Anurag Kashyap movies
@11:31..why we lack the enterprise? The govt has nothing to do with it. Its typical Bengali lazyness. All Bengalis must watch "Made in China" to understand what we Bengalis lack.
It's not exactly "laziness" per se, Mr. Roy, If "Laziness" had genuinely been the issue, we wouldn't have had hundreds of thousands of Bengalee youth attempting "Sorkaari-Chakri" exams for years and years together at a stretch, nor would we have several million more leaving their home state and comfort zones in pursuit of greener pastures across the globe. What truly is the problem at hand should be diagnosed as "Mediocrity". It's Mediocrity that has plagued Bengalees for several decades now, that we have so nonchalantly taken for granted. As long as us Bengalees continue to accept mediocrity and its low-hanging fruits, all the incumbent troubles that the Bengali society has to deal with day in and day out shall continue to persist, while we keep blaming governments, various political parties and administrative systems only to no avail. If we really want the "Perception" of Bengalees and Bengal to turn around, we ourselves have to do something to make the change happen - the ball shall start rolling by itself then. And trust me, there is a LOT LOT, so MUCH to do in order to improve our perception/image given the current state of affairs. Mere blame games and "KISSU HOBENA" rants can only get us this far.
is it a movie promotion or a discussion abt Mr. ray ??? why not sandip ray in this panel ??? and why srijit and tota are in ??? they have made only 1 disgusting web series on feluda plot ....... using idotic vfx .... ask sandip ray abt his father and his works he knows far better than these people ....
Srijit has killed the iconic characters of Ray like Feluda Jatayu and Topse with such cheap web series. The fake location the soulless acting and after all the directionless direction have made it just a mess. Sandip Ray should have thought twice before handing over the copyright. His works are way better than Srijit's foothpath products. Why this cricket fellow Boring(Boria) here discussing cinema, Satyajit Ray precisely? Is it because he linked Srijit somehow by college or cricket?
Ami eta bujhte pari na je recently, feluda movie/web series gulo te eto keno kaat chaant koren.look at the real story length and look at the movie/web series length. Atleast 4 hours er story take era kete kute 1.30 - 1.45 hours er kore dey. Feluda movie 5 hours er holeu amra keu bore hobo na. Bengali film industry eto ta kanjoosh keno?
Question: who was the Pioneer of indian cinema? Ans: Bengali of course. But twist of the story: Now so called useless actor and actress tell about bengali cinema as regional cinema.what a rediculous. If Bengali's had not been there indian so called Bollywood would have been a joke..
Bengal culture has totally went down over the decade because of the current govt....in kolkata there is huge no. of mosques compared to temples...Tmc govt has ruined it dangerously....they r doing joke with culture of Bengal like saying...”Banglar gorbo mamata”....is it acceptable being a “Bangali”....never
This is why i have stopped watching Bollywood movies.... We are people who made the Hindi/Bollywood industry superior.....as if only Bollywood stars are celebrities in this country not the regional ones.... India has many types of people, language and culture etc... But still we are together and respect each other.... We should encourage this thing rather than encouraging one language or culture as superior or linking language.... This is shameful... We have to learn it otherwise only few bunch of people would be getting all the benefits in each sector....Yes i don't like the think that we Bengalis are still stuck in the past.... We should encourage new innovative thinking in Bengal.... People are thinking for future not only past.... We Bengalis should follow the trend...
WORSHIP OF INDIVIDUALS FROM FILM WORLD DOES NOT SERVE A NOBLE PURPOSE. THESE INDIVIDUALS MUST BE PUT TO SCRUTINY.I REMEMBER HOW MR. SATYAJIT RAY GREETED MR JYOTI BASU . NO NOT BY NAMASKAR. IT WAS THE COMMUNISTS WAY. THE SALUTE WITH A FIST RAISED.
Absolutely, Most Indians don't know Satyajit Ray, his amazing work.
I think, those who are film buffs know him well
Most citizens don't understand Satyajit Roy's work. They don't deserve him. You should not expect much from them.
To the Conclave Anchor let’s accept a statement: the world of cinema has four Masters. One, Fellini of Italy, second Bergman of Sweden, third Kurosawa of Japan and lastly Ray of CALCUTTA. understand something, Ray started a movement that didn’t follow the traditional song and dance. He was a narrator of a story of human values. And these remained locked in the mindset of followers and students who were gazing at it with intellect.
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man i agree with u but let me tell u don't get frustrated or disappointmented for fellow indians not recognising him for his much deserved strata idians don't know art and cinema but for world cinema and international audience and lover of cinema he is worshipped and hailed so why worry prithivi te jodi 99% lok bhul hoy tar mane ei na je tui oi 1% er moddhe theke o dukkho pabe amra thik r ki chai do we need to argue with those idiots who have only seen those 90s utter bogus cinema and today remake be happy for satyajit roy's greatness let fellow indians not recognise him so what martin scorsese is a fanboy of him aswell as wes anderson and many more late lagends and modern filmakers !!!!!
Benuda..a Satyajit Ray museum is a must..great said sir..salute
For me Sabyasachi will always be the best Feluda ever..he was so natural , you would never feel he was acting...i am from Udupi but a ardent fan of Feluda.
Many people say that Feluda is actually Satyajit Ray himself .
All the characteristics of Feluda:
Tall , Sincere , Witty , knowledgeable are the qualities of Ray.
There is a big difference. Ray was a great enthusiast of music and had encyclopedic knowledge in it (later he became a prolific composer). Feluda, on the other hand didn't have much knowledge of music or musical instruments.
It is difficult to think Satyajit Ray without his music but I cam always think Feluda as a non-musical man🤣
Lastly, Ray was married at a very early age (that's also a love marriage, opposing relative's opinion). Till 39, Feluda is cellibate with NO love interest🤣.
@@govindanashkar8436: But 90 percent of their personlaties match
The Dignity of Feluda and making fun of Lalmohan Babu stories are all characteristics of Ray. Many people who met Ray say that in varous interviews
@@rchatterjee2837 Well maybe 'sense of humour' would have been a better word than 'making fun'.
Soumitra Chatterjee himself had told that he had asked Ray, that sketch of Feluda resembles him only. Ray laughed and replied that people were telling that feluda sketch looks more like Soumitra only. But yeah, I agree, sense of observation, intelligence, general knowledge, leadership and sense of humour; there is a lot of Ray present in Feluda.
I feel, Ray was a self-confessed fan of Arthur Conan Doyle and idolised Holmes and Prof Challenger from a very young age. Holmes, blended with mind and personality of young Ray has given birth of Feluda and Prof Shonku is another projection of veteran Ray with Prof Challeger.
The first explanation by Sreejit,was accurate that Indian cinema is more about the Bollywood 😔
If Sandip Ray is invited to Koffee with Karan,
then only Satyajit Ray and Feluda will become famous all over India😆😆😆
Yes this is the truth 👍👍👍
Thank you India Today . This is what Bengal is.
Well said dada.
Bengal is not Feluda. Feluda died when Satyajit Ray passed away. When you say the discussion on Feluda is Bengal you are exposing total bankruptcy of intellectual ability.
Satyajit Ray reinvented Rabindranath Bibhutibhushan and showed extreme respect to them. But he equally took contemporary Tarashanksr Shankar Sunil Ganguly Ramaoada Roy's work and adapted them.
Your statement shows you want to live 30 years ago.
Enough of celebrating Vivekananda Subhash Bose. Time has come to move up and critically examining everybody.
Feluda was Satyajit Ray's alter ego. Nobody can interpret Feluda. And what we get is caricature and absolute nonsense.
It is an insult to sense and sensibility and they get away because of hero worship of certain section of people who has no understanding of art and what once Bengal represented in art and culture.
Do not support these guys.
I meant Ramapada Chowdhury. Sorry for the typo.
@@xarup support who "these guys" and where isn't new things adapted or done/appreciated...ekta toh notun actors der e section ache jader standard ta bhalo.....well appreciated ora....o ota ke pochhondo kre bleche tar mddhe ato al bal tottho,assumption na dileo toh cholto
@@stxfdt1240 I think you have no idea of art and culture and evolution of art. Art is a contemporary phenomenon and something becomes permanent when that art breaks the time shackle. Today's Bengali cinema has no such talent barring a few who just does not matter. They are so ordinary they do not know how to define a commercial art 2which can breaks the boundary of class of people. Bengali cinema of yester years reached the urban and rural community. There is no commercial cinema today which is equally acceptable by entire crowd. In cinema communication happens remotely. It needs huge intellectual ability to invent that in the commercial space. For example what antic of Rajanikanth would be acceptable to mass crowd is extremely intellectual innovation.
Bengali cinema is following what was acceptable 50 years back and people like you who are living in the well are saying wah wah. But the world has moved on.
Feluda is a historical phenomenon of golden age nothing new and absolutely obsolete. Better you understand otherwise some last hope (who made good cinema but nobody watches like Rajloxmi O Srikanto or Robibar) will not be made.
The only thing I heard was Feluda Pherot Season 2 releasing in 2nd May
Very excited
Me too 😊😊😊
May mash ! Hai re 3 mash opekha korte hobe 🙄
@@sundeedrukhsad3530 2nd May dekhte dekhte chole ashbe
Hain jani onek maash ache kintu ektu koshto korte hobe
Aar Srijit boleche date ta change kore May er aagey i release kore dite paare
Fingers crossed sheta hoye
When Boria called Srijit as 'torch bearer of bengali film industry', I was like , 'hain?'
🙄
এক মত
Boria is a mad journalist... And don't know how to talk...
Bengali cinema has got most national and international awards. But Indian like to called Bengali cinema as regional cinema. They don't want to discuss or listen about it.As an Indian I think this is very unfortunate .
What do you think about Malyalam Cinema or Assamese cinema? Regional or National. How many bollywood films have you watched and how many films in 'Jasari' language?
@Aditya Dasgupta EE6236 good point. সব মেরে ফাক করে দিয়ে, কালচার মারাতে আসে এরা!
Ekta govinda r aditya...duto maura marka namok mal eshrche comments e....eder theke pls shabdhane thakben....era nijeder reflection ayena teh dheke handel mare
Tota is actually right and babuda as well; feluda is regional language specific. S. Homes became popular as english is a world language. Bollywood will definitely ruin the character and srijit is always looking for his pocket although satyajit ray need be respected nationally for what he had achieved for india.
English is the 3RD Largest Language but Bengali is also the 6Th Largest
দুঃখের বিষয় হলো এই ভিডিও টা কেবল বাঙালি রা দেখছে ।
কারণ চরম অপ্রিয় সত্যি হলো হিন্দি ভাষীরা আমাদের মানে বাঙালিদের পাত্তাই দেয় না। কিন্তু আমরা ওদের মাথায় তুলে নাচানাচি করতে ভালবাসি। কিন্তু দক্ষিণ ভারতীয়রা মাথায় তুলে নাচানাচি করে না বলে ওরা দক্ষিণ ভারতীয়দের সম্মান করে।
Bujhte Hobe je aajker bangali desher kache Kota ta prashongik. Amra toh kromosho pechon dikei jachchi
Ami ranchi theke engineering korechi r 4 ta bochor o khane giye thekechi... আমি khub valo jani bangali ra odher kache just akta mojar beeshoy.... R amar sathe jara chilo bangali tara to ro aktu opore ora nije k bagali bolto naa sudhu moja hobe tar jaro... আমি bagali hochi thakhbo r ota amar gorbo 🖤..
বাঙালি দের আজ এই অবস্থার একমাত্র কারণ হলো বাংলার নোংরা পলিটিক্স । আল ব্যাল নেতাদের জন্য গোটা বাংলার ইমেজ টা খারাপ হোয়ে গেছে। আমি কোনো নির্দিষ্ট দলের হোয় কথা বলছি না। সব দল ই সমান। সবাই চাইছে কীকরে নিজে খাবো তাতে দেশ বা রাজ্য চুলোই যাক। একবার আমার লেখা টা ভেবে দেখবেন ।
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Simply brilliant Conversation. My Fav 3 people in film industry - Big fan. As long as the Bengali nation survives, "Satyajit" Ray and "Feluda" shall live forever.
I can perfectly imagine Tota Roy - as young Satyajit Ray & Sabyasachi - as old Satyajit Ray in a Biopic.
Satyajit Ray : His amazing work should have been celebrated much more in India. Good that you are discussing about his work in your conclave.
Without actual feluda Soumitra Chatterjee .. Ray's stories will remain incomplete ..
There's no such thing as "actual" Feluda...for me, Sabyasachi is the best with due respect to Soumitra
@@immortalxd6190 why? How can Sabyasachi be better feluda than Soumitra in Sonar Kella?
@@govindanashkar8436 it is his view ri8 >? why it has to be best globally why we cant we be ok if our views of the best dont match? all our situations are diff , i feel sabyasachi is better coz i was born during his term , might be ur days was during soumitra's term , lot of things r diff so please try to be ok if the views for the best dont match.
@@ankushBanerjee2002 views without logic is the first hallmark of an uninformed mind. My question stands, how is it possible to conclude that Sabyasachi is a better Feluda than legendary soumitra chatterjee in Sonar Kella?
@@ankushBanerjee2002 just because Sabwasachi was born in your time makes him better feluda than Soumitra? Great logic! Anyway, Feluda is written in late 60s, 70s, get used to it (fact) 🙏
Sandip Ray should have been here..
"বিশ্বকর্মার পুত্র চামচিকে"
Absolutely his opinion in this matter is far more important than everyone presented at this stage
@@joydeepnath1 why?
I also think that Babuda ,being the closest person to Satyajit Ray, his thinking process,should have been called 🙂
@@jayabanerjee103 How was babu closest to Filmaker and Writer Satyajit Ray? (Not the father)
The anchor is good.
I look forward to seeing Bengali films shine at the International level like it used to be during Ray's time.
Honestly, let's not commercialize Feluda. Let him be gracefully close to our hearts, ঘরের ছেলে ঘরে থাকুক ❤
There are so many bengali riddles in feluda!!
How the hell can u translate them in Hindi!!??
I agree with benuda 👍👍
Satyajit ray er creation Unparalleled
As a Bengali Amr Gorbho hoy je satyajit ray is a Bengali
সত্যজিৎ রায় ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
That stoic expression on Mr. o'Brien's face when he was asked for a Feluda Museum once he wins the election, tells lot ! :P :P
The common hindi audience needs to understand the cultural nuances of Bengal to grasp the original Feluda. In fact the name "Feluda" has a Bengali touch to it. Its not just Bengali, if you watch a Malayalam, Tamil, Marathi etc movies, you will understand the story but you may not understand the inside jokes or subtle expressions that makes a movie or actor special. To make Feluda global, you need to re-write the whole thing keeping in mind the hindi audience.
Regarding merchandise, I don't think Govt. has anything to do with merchandise. The production house needs to take initiative. And off course Satyajit Ray museum can be created, but again we have a Gandhi museum in Delhi and the only visitors are couples and UPSC aspirants who go there to study.
Why is Boria Majumdar here?? Is he capable of hosting such events pertaining to entertainment? He doesn't know minimum level of knowledge and ethics regarding Satyajit Ray. Else, the discussion is fantastic ❤️🔥
I think Suman Dey would have been perfect anchor for this occasion
Tota mentioned the film "sunglass". Why this movie didn't released properly?
After Soumitra and then after Sabyasachi Chakraborty i personally think that abeer is the best For feluda character ..
@@abhijitsarkar3508 abir would be more abir than feluda , that's the issue
Every indian must watch the srijit mukherjees movie "Gumnami "
আমার প্রিয় ফেলুদা
I tried to search feluda films with subtitles on UA-cam I couldn't find it. Either it should be dubbed in Hindi, so most of Indian public could enjoy it.
Sabyasachi Chakrabarti is the best fit for Feluda, he is emotion ❤️
😍😍😍😍😍bengal for culture.culture for bengal
Narda and Sarada
Govinda ar Gandu
My favourite writter ❤️
Where is the celebration???
A conclave in Kolkata on satyajit ray and Bengal is happening in English and not in Bengali.
Conclaves happen in English even in India Today South conclave. Don't tell me Bengalis have problem with English now, after their prolonged problem with Hindi
@@vidisharoy3630Its not about the problem of Bengali, its the problem also south Indian people.. They don't allow Hindi as a national Language
@@shayakguha1793 Because it is not... Hindi along with bangla and other numerous ones, are official languages of India... India does not have any national language....
This national language fascism mustn't be allowed....
@@shayakguha1793 *constitution of India doesn't allow hindi as india's national language .
@@himanaich1379 right
Feluda ❤️❤️🤟🤟
Where the movie release?? In ott Or theatre?
RAY IS GOD OF CINEMA
Can anyone tell me when this show gets telecasted in the tv
ধন্যবাদ india today
I agree with Tota on the "lost in translation" part. Comparison with Byomkesh by Srijit is not valid. Byomkesh is a complex character written for late teens and adults while Feluda series was written for the 10-16 demographic. Today's kids of that age have lost that innocence to appreciate a women free story-line that is watered down to serve to kids of an era 30-50 years back. Even Srijit made 'Ray' recently and the original stories made for that demographic were 'substantially' altered to serve to a pan-Indian public. They were above average story-telling, but the enjoyment that was etched reading the original was missing while watching 'Ray'. In contrast, watching the Golden Fortress (Sonar Kella) was more enjoyable than reading the book which was already a master level work.
great!
feluda is not international or even national in that respect for only one reason
Ray himself hinted the reason
feluda has not sex content
and the word crime is inherently related to sex
thats why he himself expressed his sadness as he was not able to incorporate sexual content in feluda series as it was mainly written for adolescents, not adults
Its really futile to speak about making Feluda global when the fans are intolerant to accept any changes in their favourite detectives. Detective Byomkesh Bakshi received severe flak from Byomkesh fans although it is the best Byomkesh ever made after Chiriakhana.
Refusal to accept the change and modernity; the same reason your comment has fetched only one like and probably my reply would end up having nil. Bengalees are the same people who had rejected Satyajit Ray's "Aporajito" & "Kanchanjungha". And, they were determined to make "Detective Byomkesh Bakdhi" flop in box office since, it is much ahead of its time.👍
Is it only because, it is only "EAST" conclave that you brought in "Satyajit Ray" India Today group???? you are in a way the same 'Talwachat' media .. isn't it...? SR, SB, RNT et al
The host looks like if Avishek Bacchan gained 30kgs of weight haha
But I still feel Byomkesh stories are far more mature and complex than Feluda. Byomkesh criminals commit crime because of Passion, Poverty and jealously. But Feluda criminals commit crime because of mainly money
I too prefer Byomkesh over Feluda. But it has to be accepted that Byomkesh is for mature audience and has a psychological touch to it whereas Feluda is mostly for children and teenage audience. Having said that both of the characters have their own charm and speciality.
Agree with Tota regarding language & dictions. Translated Gitanjali doesn't give that feel & that comfort like that in Bengali (read it vernacular). For example, চিত্ত যেথা ভয় শূন্য উচ্চ যেথা শির vs where the mind is without fear where the head is held high. Mind it, translation was done by the poet himself.
Why doesn't any one talk about Ritwik Ghatak ? I think indian cinema ranking of quality cinema bengal would be at number 1 and malayalam number 2 anything else is a distant 3 !
Sabyasachi Chakraborty class actor
Voice of sabyasachi sir is just awesome best ever feluda after soumitra sir...
Bora the Bokkie anchoring Feluda.
What an irony
Bengal=🙏🙏
🌀🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🌀
👍👍👍
The discussion was way too Feluda centric and not Ray centric. Expected a broader scope.
Srijit Mukherjee ki korche ekhane, sandip ray kothay
I am from Bangladesh. I don't know I should ask it or not. Why the moderator emphasizing to make Feluda in hindi? Does it mean that to be an indian film, it has to be in hindi? If we bear that philosophy in mind, there will be no Feluda like creation/literature will come in future from WB.
100% agree with you brother...
Sabyasachi Chakrabarty look closely at a similar Russian Foreign Minister #SergeyLavrov and tell me if it's true
Very superficial discussion. Only Sabyasachi had something meaningful to say.
Mr. O'Brien might be too scared to sleep at night following that sudden accusations and 'threatening' appeal from Boria Majumder for creating a musuem. XD.
Sir I think we are the ones in Hindi cinema who always watch Khan and Johar's movie......It's better to watch Satyajit Ray, Mahesh Bhatt, Anurag Kashyap movies
@11:31..why we lack the enterprise? The govt has nothing to do with it. Its typical Bengali lazyness. All Bengalis must watch "Made in China" to understand what we Bengalis lack.
It's not exactly "laziness" per se, Mr. Roy, If "Laziness" had genuinely been the issue, we wouldn't have had hundreds of thousands of Bengalee youth attempting "Sorkaari-Chakri" exams for years and years together at a stretch, nor would we have several million more leaving their home state and comfort zones in pursuit of greener pastures across the globe.
What truly is the problem at hand should be diagnosed as "Mediocrity". It's Mediocrity that has plagued Bengalees for several decades now, that we have so nonchalantly taken for granted. As long as us Bengalees continue to accept mediocrity and its low-hanging fruits, all the incumbent troubles that the Bengali society has to deal with day in and day out shall continue to persist, while we keep blaming governments, various political parties and administrative systems only to no avail.
If we really want the "Perception" of Bengalees and Bengal to turn around, we ourselves have to do something to make the change happen - the ball shall start rolling by itself then. And trust me, there is a LOT LOT, so MUCH to do in order to improve our perception/image given the current state of affairs. Mere blame games and "KISSU HOBENA" rants can only get us this far.
What is Srijit Mukherji doing here??? What does he know about Ray and film???
Sandhya sashi bandhu = pradosh chandra mitra...
Tar profession hochche "Sukhkho Sal Sashsho" i.e. ANUSANDHAN
Feluda movies are good as they are -in an effort to globalize Feluda all its fun will disappear - leave it to original prints with good sub titling.
Only benu da is eligible to comment on it, rest are just noise.
Goose bump anyone ?
Babulal jotodin Feluda'r copyright charbe na, totodin Feluda international hobe na. Ei shotti kotha ta karur bolar shahos holo na?
No issues with Feluda... But the interviewer... Does he only know about Feluda... It's not satyjeet ray discussion... It's Feluda discussion
The topic was is feluda celebrated enough . That's why he is discussing . It should have been have we celebrated satyajit ray enough .
Boria stop asking dull questions
Yes we/Indians have not given due reward to Satyajit Ray.
Feluda best
If the essence is lost in translation have a better team who can bring the bengalines into a Hindi or any other language
দুঃখের বিষয়, সব্যসাচীকে নিয়ে যে এতগুলো ফেলুদা সিনেমা বানালো, সেই সন্দীপ রায়ই নেই।
লাওড়া মজুমদারের লাওড়ার কনক্লেভ।
is it a movie promotion or a discussion abt Mr. ray ??? why not sandip ray in this panel ??? and why srijit and tota are in ??? they have made only 1 disgusting web series on feluda plot ....... using idotic vfx .... ask sandip ray abt his father and his works he knows far better than these people ....
Yeah, as if Sandip Ray made Feluda films of the order of "Sonar Kella".
Govinda gar marate esheche abr....shabdhane thakben 😂😂😂😂
Srijit has killed the iconic characters of Ray like Feluda Jatayu and Topse with such cheap web series. The fake location the soulless acting and after all the directionless direction have made it just a mess. Sandip Ray should have thought twice before handing over the copyright. His works are way better than Srijit's foothpath products. Why this cricket fellow Boring(Boria) here discussing cinema, Satyajit Ray precisely? Is it because he linked Srijit somehow by college or cricket?
Boria sir seems to be very angry with politics and politicians .
Ami eta bujhte pari na je recently, feluda movie/web series gulo te eto keno kaat chaant koren.look at the real story length and look at the movie/web series length. Atleast 4 hours er story take era kete kute 1.30 - 1.45 hours er kore dey. Feluda movie 5 hours er holeu amra keu bore hobo na. Bengali film industry eto ta kanjoosh keno?
Question: who was the Pioneer of indian cinema?
Ans: Bengali of course.
But twist of the story: Now so called useless actor and actress tell about bengali cinema as regional cinema.what a rediculous. If Bengali's had not been there indian so called Bollywood would have been a joke..
Bengal culture has totally went down over the decade because of the current govt....in kolkata there is huge no. of mosques compared to temples...Tmc govt has ruined it dangerously....they r doing joke with culture of Bengal like saying...”Banglar gorbo mamata”....is it acceptable being a “Bangali”....never
RAY IS SANSAARRATN
None of these guys have the depth to think loudly about Ray on a public stage... I don't talk about Einstein's physics on a public stage, for example.
They have actually...the 2 of them atleast
Cliche Bengali emotion
Tota may look like feluda. However, his portrayal of feluda is extremely worse.
Come on Boriah!!! How wearisome you are. Only looking back back back. Stuck stuck stuck somewhere
The only thing Mr. Boria sir adds to this discussion is cringe
Tota Roy choudhuri ke sabyasachi choudhuri er chele mone hoi!
There was no need to bring BJP vs TMC in this discussion. Boria shut up.
মহান একজন বাঙালি ব্যাক্তির নিয়ে কথা হচ্ছে ইংলিশ এ, লজ্জা এটা
বাংলায় বললে খুশি হতাম
Boria Majumdar is an annoying moderator.
This is why i have stopped watching Bollywood movies.... We are people who made the Hindi/Bollywood industry superior.....as if only Bollywood stars are celebrities in this country not the regional ones.... India has many types of people, language and culture etc... But still we are together and respect each other.... We should encourage this thing rather than encouraging one language or culture as superior or linking language.... This is shameful... We have to learn it otherwise only few bunch of people would be getting all the benefits in each sector....Yes i don't like the think that we Bengalis are still stuck in the past.... We should encourage new innovative thinking in Bengal.... People are thinking for future not only past.... We Bengalis should follow the trend...
মিথিলার জামাই
era mone kore era puro bangalider represent kore kintu na era sudhu kolkata k represent kore era holo kolkatar typical atel
What a dud Boring boria is. He knows zilch of Ray beyond Feluda.
Find a jatyau ? Otherwise Santosh Dutta
the anchor doesn't have basic manner
WORSHIP OF INDIVIDUALS FROM FILM WORLD DOES NOT SERVE A NOBLE PURPOSE. THESE INDIVIDUALS MUST BE PUT TO SCRUTINY.I REMEMBER HOW MR. SATYAJIT RAY GREETED MR JYOTI BASU . NO NOT BY NAMASKAR. IT WAS THE COMMUNISTS WAY. THE SALUTE WITH A FIST RAISED.