L. V. Beethoven: Sonata nº 17 «Tempest», Op. 31 nº 2 (1802)

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  • @caducarvalho9544
    @caducarvalho9544 2 роки тому +32

    The 0.1 second he takes before hitting that D at 0:52 is just so perfect. It sounds like a real thunder, like a giant rock crashing into the sea.

  • @alijoyce2169
    @alijoyce2169 5 років тому +189

    Beethoven is the coolest uncle ever.

    • @calebhu6383
      @calebhu6383 4 роки тому +36

      I don't know about that. Beethoven's nephew tried to kill himself because of him.

    • @jessicathekitten9615
      @jessicathekitten9615 4 роки тому +16

      Way to ruin the mood dude

    • @SilviaVillarespe
      @SilviaVillarespe 4 роки тому +9

      @@calebhu6383 too many movies

    • @alphao3012
      @alphao3012 4 роки тому +1

      @@calebhu6383 ......

    • @lucasramos253
      @lucasramos253 3 роки тому +31

      @@SilviaVillarespe actually, beethoven's nephew (Karl) tried to suicide because of him. I don't know if you know but, when beethoven's brother (and Karl's father) died, Beethoven made him write a testament saying that beethoven would be Karl's father when he passed away.
      Beethoven then, saying that Karl's mother was immoral and a bad mother, opened a lawsuit trying to take custody of Karl. And Beethoven took him away from his mother for MANY years.
      Beethoven said that his mother was "poisonous" and "immoral" for Karl, his nephew. And he forced the boy to learn piano and music, even though Karl didn't even have the talent for it.
      Several times Karl tried to flee, but ended up returning by force from the authorities.
      After suffering so much about it, Karl bought two guns. One he tried to shoot, but he didn't have success, and the second gun almost killed him, but he was found by a carter, and he said that wanted to see your mother.
      Beethoven was not the best father, he tried to be. But, infact, due to his turbulent childhood with his own father (alcoholic and abusive), he also got mental problems. :(

  • @elizabethlau644
    @elizabethlau644 4 роки тому +14

    My favorite 3rd movement....................Allegretto..............................Love it !!!

  • @phamnguyenductin
    @phamnguyenductin 3 роки тому +38

    I love Arrau's 3rd movement. For me this is the right tempo - after all it's marked allegretto, but some pianists seem to interpret it as allegro.

    • @jmbechtel
      @jmbechtel 4 місяці тому +3

      This is my first time hearing such a tempo... it is so much better than the "hurried" interpretations that I have heard.

  • @sandraborbollaescobar9821
    @sandraborbollaescobar9821 4 роки тому +46

    Beethoven was deaf. But his mind housed all the sounds of this earth. His hands was magic and his music the most beautiful, furious, sad, amazing, and lovely that i can heard.

    • @545wei
      @545wei 2 роки тому +18

      He was deaf at the end of his life not when he wrote this

  • @jonasmusic156
    @jonasmusic156 4 роки тому +29

    The melody in the third movement is wonderful. I've heard from somewhere that Beethoven wasn't a good MELODY WRITER. Now I know that he was.

    • @lefinlay
      @lefinlay 4 роки тому +9

      Nobody, in all of human history, has ever said that Beethoven isn’t a good melody writer. I’m glad you think he is though 😅

    • @lucasramos253
      @lucasramos253 3 роки тому +8

      It is not that Beethoven was bad at writing melodies. It turns out that beethoven had difficulties in writing melodies, compared to Mozart. Beethoven even wondered if he was as good as they said.

    • @alexistrevino9349
      @alexistrevino9349 3 роки тому +10

      @@lucasramos253 Indeed. A music teacher of mine once told me that it often took Beethoven quite some time to compose a single piece, whereas Mozart would churn out a piece in one sitting, sometimes even improvising it. Nonetheless, though apparently seeming as inefficient, Beethoven’s painstaking approach to composition produced a great deal of masterfully crafted works.

    • @kellyng2548
      @kellyng2548 3 роки тому

      how is he deaf but still so amazinggg, I mean, I can’t even compose something presentable 🤯

    • @sfbirdclub
      @sfbirdclub 2 роки тому +4

      @@lefinlay Unfortunately Bernstein did indeed say that. But it was just his way of speaking. The context is everything with Lenny's off the cuff remarks. Beethoven could write tunes: Good Lord yes.

  • @howardchasnoff208
    @howardchasnoff208 3 роки тому +4

    4:18 end of exposition beginning of development 5:55 beginning of recap. thematic material interspersed with recits
    All back in d minor. secondary theme in expo was in a minor which is the dominant key.

  • @Olga6328
    @Olga6328 3 роки тому +24

    00:02 І ч. ГП d
    00:53 І ч. СП
    01:17 І ч. ПП а
    08:41 ІІ ч. ГП В
    11:36 ІІ ч. ПП F
    19:05 ІІІ ч. ГП d
    19:44 ІІІ ч. ПП a

  • @arhankumar2358
    @arhankumar2358 18 днів тому

    Oh wow… he ignores the pedal marking at 6:00 and holds it all the way until the tempo change… that is MAGIC!!!

  • @sue70950
    @sue70950 6 років тому +121

    0:01
    8:40
    19:03

    • @konstantinos7024
      @konstantinos7024 3 роки тому +2

      You know that timestamps exist , right ?

    • @JohanMChocano
      @JohanMChocano 12 днів тому

      @konstantinos7024not on yt music, which is the platform im on

  • @MARIAHELENA606
    @MARIAHELENA606 7 місяців тому +1

    Stupendo. Lo spartito utilissimo per cogliere tutte le sfumature di questo capolavoro.

  • @truBador2
    @truBador2 7 років тому +13

    This is good. Of course it is. It's Arau, whose lineage goes back to Beethoven himself! I appreciate the way he brings out all the inner lines, which makes the playing tasteful and justifies his tempos perfectly. A good contrast with Arau's take on Op. 31 no2 is Glenn Gould playing the same piece. His tempestuous tempos are another perfectly justified interpretation (not so much though his choice to omit the repeats!). If Gould sounds a little rushed in his live performance, it is not so much because of his tempo as it is his glossing over details like the inner voices, which Arau has so clearly given careful consideration to. Arau on Sunday, Gould on Tuesday...

  • @partysparkleprincess
    @partysparkleprincess 7 днів тому

    0:00 beginning
    0:53 part 2
    1:17 part 3
    1:46 part 4
    2:08 end of section 1 and repeats
    4:15 beginning of section 2
    5:24 part 2
    5:45 part 3
    7:17 part 4

  • @manukvardanyan94
    @manukvardanyan94 4 роки тому +5

    26:18 .. a great sense of ACCENT and PAUSE ... it's over, everything is decided.. the sword does his job !

  • @paulgreen6921
    @paulgreen6921 2 місяці тому +1

    I have that apocalyptic rendition by Lorin Hollander on that ole RCA LP. It always decimates my resonating spine with “poplexic” profound philosophic spasms. I can feel them “goobolating” just thinking about it! PWG. ❤️🎹🎹❤️

  • @Bulacanos
    @Bulacanos 6 років тому +50

    11:35 meet the Flintstones

  • @Дарья-с5и9р
    @Дарья-с5и9р 8 місяців тому +3

    1 часть
    0:05 - ГП
    0:53 - СП
    1:17 - ПП
    6:03 - речитатив (подход к репризе)
    2 часть
    8:41 - ГП
    11:36 - ПП
    3 часть
    19:05 - ГП

  • @VictorMoyaArbo
    @VictorMoyaArbo Місяць тому +1

    Esta joya es lo que escucha Dios!!!!❤❤

  • @manu_zeta
    @manu_zeta 4 роки тому +2

    Ogni volta è più bella!

  • @FirstGentleman1
    @FirstGentleman1 8 років тому +7

    15:43 is angelic.

    • @rembo96
      @rembo96 8 років тому +1

      22:03

    • @antonioanker2958
      @antonioanker2958 8 років тому +1

      19:04

    • @hase2716
      @hase2716 8 років тому

      26:36 ahah

    • @aoznes
      @aoznes 4 роки тому +1

      thank you for sharing,loved it!

    • @Xlappahony
      @Xlappahony 6 місяців тому

      It's a traditional tune from Bedrock, USA.

  • @giuliacantelli
    @giuliacantelli 2 роки тому +1

    Sublime ❤💙💞🍀🙏❣

  • @mmm_playz
    @mmm_playz 2 роки тому +1

    This is how our parents told us how they went to school 4:54

    • @darius.lvb.
      @darius.lvb. 2 роки тому

      Hahaha lmao ((((=

    • @boltyplays
      @boltyplays 21 годину тому

      Back in my day we had to fight bears on our way to school with sticks

  • @campobassoester8042
    @campobassoester8042 7 років тому +15

    19:05 😍

  • @chuanyingyu8156
    @chuanyingyu8156 Рік тому +4

    Everyone's favourie mvt is the 3rd but what about the first! When hearing it you literally would turn speechless.

    • @TheGoat-zt9bd
      @TheGoat-zt9bd 9 місяців тому +3

      It represents Beethoven who fights against his destiny and God who manifests himself with the arpeggios at the beginning of each phrase of the piece, the measures where the melody varies between bass and treble shows the dispute and the war of destiny (the bass) and Beethoven (treble)

  • @kateliufan
    @kateliufan 4 роки тому +2

    2악장이 최고임.. 왼손 따다다단 따다다단 따다다단 미치겠다ㅠㅠㅜㅠ

  • @vlinaviolin
    @vlinaviolin 10 місяців тому +1

    I часть
    Гп 1 эл +2 эл 0:01 d
    3 эл ГП/СП 00:47 соль ля СИ ля ля
    1ПП 01:16
    2ПП 01:30
    ЗП 01:45
    Разработка
    4:21 развивает 1эл гп
    II часть
    Fis dur резко d moll
    Монолог ? 05:34 ?
    Кода

  • @janjacobi127
    @janjacobi127 6 років тому +14

    While I like Arrau, I consider his playing in the first movement too ‘dry’. Regardless whether it should be played thematically, as in an approaching to a storm, I feel he overcalculated this one as if it were a math exercise

  • @smaragdablazaki6520
    @smaragdablazaki6520 2 роки тому +1

    Τέλειο είναι

  • @profemanuel.musicaenpreesc5954
    @profemanuel.musicaenpreesc5954 5 років тому +4

    BELLISIMO :D

  • @kellyng2548
    @kellyng2548 3 роки тому

    how is he deaf but still so amazinggg, I mean, I can’t even compose something presentable 🤯

  • @reencuentro9354
    @reencuentro9354 3 роки тому +2

    12:00 sounds like a Flinstones melody

    • @beethoven_jr
      @beethoven_jr 5 місяців тому

      Точно подмечено. 🤣🤣🤣

  • @dima.jiharev
    @dima.jiharev 7 років тому +3

    Ludwig von Beethoven!

  • @별별-p7h
    @별별-p7h 4 роки тому +1

    GOOD

  • @ClaudioZuñiga-f5w
    @ClaudioZuñiga-f5w 2 місяці тому

    Nowhere is the Arrau, the fault is by who mentioned nothing about😢😢😢😢ignorance a top level.

  • @kiarashmohebbi275
    @kiarashmohebbi275 5 років тому +6

    I like Movement 3 19:3
    L V B IS A GREAT COMPOSER
    ( LUDIG VAN BEETHOVEN )

  • @VikkiSvet
    @VikkiSvet Рік тому

    Обажаемая❤

  • @vampireff7822
    @vampireff7822 4 роки тому +1

    what is 42 x 13 = 312
    what is 312 ??
    is it Op. 31 nº 2

  • @thewho4355
    @thewho4355 7 років тому +6

    19:04

  • @icarus7211
    @icarus7211 2 роки тому

    The second movement is seriously painful to learn , my god it’s like he didn’t want anyone to play the piece.
    Either way very good piece!

  • @dan4659
    @dan4659 Рік тому

    8:38 2nd movement for you know who

  • @Allizblu
    @Allizblu 4 роки тому

    can someone please tell me a beethoven sonata that is “easier” to learn i have it for my final and i have to perform it in a really short time ,so by ur experience can u pls tell me. Im in second year at university of arts :) and i need help

    • @Allizblu
      @Allizblu 4 роки тому

      by “easier” i mean less challenging cuz i dont really have enough time

    • @mpianod9319
      @mpianod9319 4 роки тому

      My first Beethoven was the Pathetique Sonata. That is probably the least challenging. After Pathetique I learned Tempest.

    • @Allizblu
      @Allizblu 4 роки тому

      @@mpianod9319 really? pathetique looks so challenging but im definitely gonna give it a look and try it out i thought it was way complicated

    • @pacom.8815
      @pacom.8815  4 роки тому

      @@Allizblu The least challenging Beethoven's sonata I've ever played is undoubtdly nº 25 (Op. 79). Nº 27 (Op. 90) is also not very hard.

  • @olivierdrouin2701
    @olivierdrouin2701 3 роки тому

    Ivo pogorelich fait ressortir des motifs dans le mouvement 3 ,que je n ai jamais entendu par un autre interprète...

  • @steffen5121
    @steffen5121 4 роки тому +2

    When I read the notes, I must say, I'm really not a fan of extensive rubatos, that are not in the script.

  • @fredericchopin6773
    @fredericchopin6773 4 роки тому +3

    💪

  • @magarac99
    @magarac99 Рік тому

    Arrau is my fave pianist, but Brendl does the best Berthoven Sonatas

    • @RaineriHakkarainen
      @RaineriHakkarainen Місяць тому

      Dimitri Bashkirov her teacher Anastasia Virsaladze teach saying to Bashkirov the most important lesson is the love of beautiful colorful piano sound! More colorful beautiful piano sound than Arrau or Brendel=Wilhelm Kempff Emil Gilels Radu Lupu Artur Rubinstein Vladimir Ashkenazy Grigory Sokolov! More genius than Arrau or Brendel=Sviatoslav Richter Solomon Cutner Grigory Sokolov Maurizio Pollini Stanislav Bunin Maria Grinberg Murray Perahia Alexei Lubimov Dinu Lipatti Stanislav Igolinsky! More powerful louder than Arrau or Brendel=Mikhail Pletnev! The Second Loudest ever was Lazar Berman! The 3rd Loudest was Erwin Nyiregyhazi! Beethoven wanted louder instruments piano fortes! Horowitz his technique attack better than Arrau's or Brendel's technique!!

  • @Roadman3235
    @Roadman3235 5 місяців тому

    flintstones?

  • @고민고민하지마-e1f
    @고민고민하지마-e1f 4 роки тому +2

    6:00
    6:49

  • @afineassgoosebump1727
    @afineassgoosebump1727 6 років тому +7

    I might be an exception on this one but I think the 3rd movement should be played faster, around 1.25x of the original speed.
    Edit: maybe even 1.35x

    • @ДимитърАнастасов-ш3п
      @ДимитърАнастасов-ш3п 6 років тому +1

      LordBabu no,you are not an exeption

    • @justastellarperson219
      @justastellarperson219 5 років тому +1

      Its his artistic interpretation of the piece.For others the beauty lies in speed,for him the beauty is in the tonality.

    • @phamnguyenductin
      @phamnguyenductin 3 роки тому +3

      No. The tempo reads Allegretto, not Allegro.

    • @fabiomangone9789
      @fabiomangone9789 2 роки тому +1

      @@phamnguyenductin that's what I was going to say, it's not necessary to play at a really fast tempo when it's not written, especially when this tempo notation is in a Beethoven's sonata, cause' he was very precise

  • @olivierdrouin2701
    @olivierdrouin2701 3 роки тому

    Il y a une répétition de l exposition pour le premier mouvement ?! Il ne me semblait pas .quelqu un peut il confirmer ?
    L interprétation manque de folie.

  • @vittor313
    @vittor313 6 місяців тому +2

    Reminds Mozart's piano sonata 14

  • @세인-k2x
    @세인-k2x 5 років тому +2

    00.00❣❣

  • @ludwigvanbeethoven7192
    @ludwigvanbeethoven7192 7 років тому +10

    This pianist has quite a few different tempos going on... It's a, "Tempest." A storm. Forte means forte, piano means piano. BANG OUT THOSE CHORDS. THEN PLAY SOFT.

    • @ludwigvanbeethoven7192
      @ludwigvanbeethoven7192 7 років тому

      Who, Claudio Arrau? Hahaha. Sure thing, girlfriend.

    • @sergeyscoville6655
      @sergeyscoville6655 7 років тому +1

      Ludwig Van Beethoven I have to agree with Noah Kivler, Arrau is brilliant and you would have to be world class to accurately give criticism in my opinion

    • @ric55
      @ric55 7 років тому

      Troll alert.

    • @GreerFried
      @GreerFried 7 років тому +2

      Sure Arrau was great, but how can you disagree with Beethoven himself? He was possibly the most genius musician of all time and certainly knows how to play his own piece.

    • @qp4135
      @qp4135 6 років тому

      Beethoven referred to Shakespeare's play, where the actual storm plays little role. -- Arrau's discursive approach highlights many charms of this score. I like in particular his first movement: he reveals sinuosities that a more "stormy" interpretation would just ignore.

  • @TempodiPiano
    @TempodiPiano 7 років тому +6

    I disagree with the rallentendos in the Adagio. It breaks the tension.

  • @hgwdhgwd-hd3tx
    @hgwdhgwd-hd3tx 4 роки тому +2

    Usually Claudio Arrau interprets much better than this. I doubt, whether this recording is indeed played by C. Arrau!

  • @Donovan-cd5gh
    @Donovan-cd5gh 3 роки тому +1

    12:00

  • @olegkutsmyda4925
    @olegkutsmyda4925 4 роки тому +2

    The third movement was too slow played. It should be more faster. This is why it is called the tempest sonata.
    Edit: Turn up the playback speed to 1.15. This is the normal tempo. Not to mention it is in allegretto

  • @autosalesrevival
    @autosalesrevival 7 місяців тому

    22:28 i dont why is it hard to understand but this part which is the best in the whole piece sounds like shit when played without sustain, why dont piainist play with more meaning

    • @ClaudioZuñiga-f5w
      @ClaudioZuñiga-f5w 2 місяці тому

      Can you compose any music yet?😢😢😢

    • @autosalesrevival
      @autosalesrevival Місяць тому

      @ actually i am a pianist and i have already composed a couple,
      This part should be specifically played with sustain it is meant to be a deep emotional part such as beethoven wrote not some fast stacatto part as this unprofessional pianist is playing it as

  • @stantia1731
    @stantia1731 4 роки тому +2

    Ciao ho un canale di musica, letteratura, arte con lo scopo di intrattenere e spero anche di emozionare più gente possibile con le mie interpretazioni eseguite al piano di compositori come Bach, Chopin, Beethoven ecc... lettura dei miei autori preferiti e video naturalistici.

  • @Eugen_969b
    @Eugen_969b 4 роки тому

    Слышно, что дедушка играет.

  • @colinmurphy2214
    @colinmurphy2214 6 років тому

    8:41

  • @yannickm5237
    @yannickm5237 4 роки тому

    6:12

  • @robertgift
    @robertgift 6 років тому +3

    Tempest? No tempest here.

    • @darius.lvb.
      @darius.lvb. 2 роки тому +1

      Beethoven never thought of the term "storm" for this sonata, the name was given by someone else most likely Schindler

  • @jkrai9684
    @jkrai9684 6 років тому +6

    WHY IS IT OUT OF TUNE

  • @jeffreyemge5435
    @jeffreyemge5435 3 роки тому

    01'30"

  • @felixbonigk9162
    @felixbonigk9162 4 роки тому

    I don‘t think this is Arrau playing.

  • @daesopark9372
    @daesopark9372 4 роки тому

    Sibar jonna omyohane

  • @giannicioni29
    @giannicioni29 2 роки тому

    Ik

  • @SusanaCastagnet
    @SusanaCastagnet 4 місяці тому

    Pdf

  • @lajk6165
    @lajk6165 5 років тому

    튠 나간듯 거의 반키높게들림 악보시작부터 내가 잘못보고있나했음

  • @robbystafford8273
    @robbystafford8273 3 роки тому

    this interpretation is unlistenable

    • @darius.lvb.
      @darius.lvb. 2 роки тому

      Why? You're probably saying this because you're used to other interpretations that are more "brisk" than that, but in my opinion it's among the most successful interpretations of this sonata I've ever heard, especially the 3rd movement

  • @쪼앙딸기조앙
    @쪼앙딸기조앙 6 років тому +2

    19:04

  • @유리08-t1k
    @유리08-t1k 3 роки тому

    2:10

  • @gosezi
    @gosezi 5 років тому +2

    19:03

  • @공백-d1v
    @공백-d1v 4 роки тому +1

    19:04

  • @elsa4180
    @elsa4180 Рік тому

    6:25

  • @elsa4180
    @elsa4180 Рік тому

    7:15