It might just be me, but I didn't watch the BG3 video because I didn't want spoilers. That can be an issue with videos on newer rpgs. There is an argument to be made that making videos about older games is safer than new games, unless the new game sucks and no-one cares if you spoil it (Starfield for example).
Hey, little unfair man. I don't watch your videos while I'm doing something else that's boring. I watch your videos when I'm at work, which means you have my full attention.
I'm at work right now, SAME! My job is 100% just showing up, so from there I just kinda watch Strat and post comments. My boss peeks in I just ask her to kindly come back later, I'm actually jerking off under my desk.
I have 200. I did all the vanilla three main faction quests and a lot of Dark Brotherhood and Thieves Guild and the only thing I remember is the Khajiit Mane selection quest and a bit of the main story. It doesn't help that every NPC in ESO looks exactly the same as any other within their respective races besides the main story crew.
I’m pretty sure I put +3-4 hundred hours in, I was subbed to eso plus for at least a year. I remember being really happy about talking crows at one point.
So I have not watched the baulders gate 3 video because I dont want any spoilers until me and my friend beat it. I think a lot of people are in a similar boat.
I mean its also not a shocker to your average human that the hype for a game/series release is greater before release than after. Plus your point being that its an extremely narrative heavy game means people won't look at reviews, maybe an 'is it worth it' type video at most, so the timing of the video was foreseeably bad. Release it in a year instead of cashing in on the ill-perceived hype train and it would've done as good as his other Baldur's Gate videos, which he's using as a metric for success in this video.
i played eso for an entire hour before dropping it, deleting it, and never picking it up again. why am i going to consume a 4 hour long, in-depth analysis of dlc for a game i have absolutely zero interest in playing? _because i like your funny words, magic man._
Same. Well I played it for more than an hour. I tried a couple of different classes for an hour or so each. I realised that I didn't hate the class I picked, I hated the game. So I deleted it as well.
An hour? That’s it? That’s like playing Daggerfall for a total of 1 hour, and then deciding that the game is not for you. That’s not enough time! 😅 I didn’t like Daggerfall for the first hour or two, but after 15 hours of somewhat enjoying it, I became hooked! The story is more investing than any of the other elder scrolls main quests. ESO is overwhelming, unless you choose to follow the main story arcs of the game, which you can find on UESP. The game doesn’t give you quests, you have to seek them out yourself, and it’s overwhelming if you don’t have a primary quest line to focus on and always come back to when you get tired of it.
@@TheJittering 15 hours is an unreal time investment for many people, me included. It's borderline offensive when a game thinks it deserves 15 hours before it's even fun. I had that kind of time when I was in high school, but most of us would simply rather invest that time in something we know for a fact we'll be satisfied with.
I think people are confused with what MMO means in 2024. This isn't 1999, MMO does not mean Massively Multiplayer Online. No No you plebs. In 2024, MMO now stands for Massively Monetized Online. They took the multiplayer aspect out, as you can now solo most "MMO" content.
you can solo base game stuff but the dlc's if you're doing on vet it's a lot more of an issue to solo. Some of the new dungeons are absolutely cracked out on their hardmodes and soloing them would require some really gimicky stuff.
Eh, people back in 1999 didn't have Discord or that many options to communicate, so they did so in game. Nowadays a lot of this communication is on other platforms or chat systems. Plus if you want the original 90's experience, go play Everquest. It's still up, but is far from the juggernaught it once was. As for the solo aspect, having your gaming experience depend solely (if not mostly) is a risky strategy as you never know who you'll be playing with. And if the community dies, well, the community was the game so now there is less game to experience. Go play Mortal Online II or some other sandbox MMO if this is what you want. Solo players in MMOs now are a big audience, so developpers are going to cater to this audience.
For what its worth, the only reason I skipped the Baldur's Gate video was because of potential spoilers. Love the videos, and I'm excited to watch it when I finish playing through.
Always felt the whole "you only played X amount of hours of this mmo it didn't even get good yet" criticism is done in bad faith. It was ridiculous then and it's ridiculous now. If the game doesn't grab you immediately the start is done badly, if the game requires 400 hour+ commitment before you can yank out your anal beads like a rip start lawnmower and achieve mmo coom nirvana the pay off isn't worth those 400 hours of slog. And of course when they say you didn't put in the time for the coom nirvana they're usually talking about end game raiding which is hell. Not because of the content, the content usually is at least serviceable, but the PEOPLE. It's such a mess of different people, you get Jesus Christ Raid Superstar who is SUCH a nice person you want to marry them or you get asshunter9000 who ate every AOE and is colecting vuln stacks like pokemon and BLAMING YOU FOR IT or you get something in between which is usually nice. Point is, if you threw a fuck ton of time into an activity you get attached to it and defend it like a dog their bone, because they wasted their time! It must have been worth fucking something! Right?!
you 100% nailed the sunken cost fallacy. People create so much investment in this game, it becomes so important to them because they've put time, energy and money into it and not because it's actually a good game. I give a game one, maybe two hours maximum to earn our attention! it makes those people more likely to rabidly defend it and actively expect everyone they play with to be at the absolute top of their game all the time - because they believe everyone should and will take the game as seriously as they will. Some people feel real social prestige and personal power/importance running raids and it's both sad and funny. Mixed in are are completely regular and normal people. The culture of MMOs has quickly changed into one of single losers in their early-mid 30s desperately running away from life the same way they used to play MMOs after school as a kid. When you highlight their sacred cow is full of shit, they've been rolling about in that shit for 3-6 years. They can't smell it any more lmao
These days I don't give the game even a chance if I see, that it tries to sell me a solution for a game play problem, let alone sink 40h+ to see if it gets "fun after that". 1h is what I'll give. An 1h 30m if I'm feeling generous, because
Your criticism of barbas and vile in the morrowind dlc is really spot on and shows how even the mainline successor games seem to be progressively forgetting what makes their lore interesting.
@@Bleusilencesif by lore master you mean keeper of sycophantic dogs than yes emil delivers on that front. Anything he writes is terrible, yet people still enjoy it. I feel like that says volumes of people who both accept mediocrity as normal, and find it enjoyable.
In High Isle dlc they even forgot the lore of their own character, Jakarn. In the base Daggerfall storyline he's a womanizer, and he tries to compete with you on kill count. In High Isle he's a simp, and a coward who's scared to fight.
I can't afford to give to patreon so I'll just thank you for giving actual mechanical analysis. Rather than retrospective cosplaying as critique style videos. I appreciate it 😊
“Pfft, obviously you didn’t get far enough into the game, you can’t criticize it yet!” The game costs $20. So it gets $20 worth of my time to prove it’s worth playing.
It really sucks about the grinding. There are a lot of things I love about the game like the zones, housing, crafting, story, and aesthetics I like. But I had to stop playing the game because to get the stuff I wanted, it was like having a second job. At 37:18, yeah my feeling was “wtf am I doing with my life?”
Yes! I love these long ass videos that fill the emptiness of my decaying immortal vampire soul! Thank you, Strat von Edgy. I shall delay the vampire apocalypse a bit longer now.
31:12 One trick I learned is to use your scroll only when you are inside the dungeon. I had this happen to me many times when I was new and never even realized that the scrolls had a timer.
Just a point regarding your BG3 video. I usually watch all your vids but have not even opened that one because I haven't even had time to play the game and would like to know as little about it as possible. Idk if that is why it flopped but I know other people in my position. Hence why I watch your other vids about older stuff.
So I'm listening to the rebuttal of various criticisms. I've played ESO to death, but I quit a couple of years ago. Nothing felt better than quitting. The game was becoming too much like work. Anyway, I had about 3,000cp, I'd solo'd everything that could be solo'd. The game just kept getting easier, even using characters with cp switched off. My point is: all your opinions about ESO are valid. These criticisms are just garbage. You don't have to play 400 hours to form an opinion. You don't have to be CP 160+ to form an opinion. The game doesn't change all that much once you do the main quest and the faction quests. Sure, you can do veteran dungeons, but they're just harder versions of dungeons you already did. All that changes is that you can do more of the trials. That's not a lot of content though. Unless you like doing the same trial over and over, it gets old fast. If you haven't done all of them, you're likely not missing much. In general, you can experience most of what ESO has to offer with one level 50 characters. It's not a hard game, and nearly everything that is hard has a non-hard mode. Sure, the verteran dungeons do change the gameplay a bit from normal dugeons, but it's not as though they're a totally new experience. The DLCs just add more of the same. I liked a lot of the DLC story quests, but they are all very similar to each other. Most are worth doing, just don't expect anything too radical. Anyone can offer feedback on ESO without 100s of hours. Chances are, if you don't like the first 50 hours you aren't going to like the next 2000.
The reason MMO p(l)ayers claim you need as many hours played as they individually have is because they don't want confirmation to the feeling that they may have wasted those hours
In Maelstrom arena when that giant lizard boss screams you are not supposed to bash him. It gives him enrage making all his attacks oneshot. You are supposed to kill one of mages that spawn and run up to the other, because he will create a dome that protects from scream. After scream is over, you kill the mage, otherwise he buffs the lizard boss.
That's pretty much every one shot mechanic. If you see it your party did a mechanic wrong. They don't just appear. if It does just appear though tank fucked up a taunt and a tank buster hit someone else.
I recently came back to ESO because of the card game they added in High Isle. It's a really neat deckbuilder where you and your opponent race to build up gold and political power from a shared pool of decks based on specific characters Now, these decks are set in stone, the only variation being which ones you choose to bring into the match with, and a small handful of cards that have linear upgrades which replace the original You'd think this would mean they can't enforce a crazy amount of grinding to get the non-default ones like they would with a more standard CCG that makes you collect individual cards And if you thought that, you'd be wrong. See what they did was they took these decks and they split them up into pieces, and you have to grind entire DLC expansions to assemble all the pieces. And unlike items in a set or cards in a CCG, you don't even get the benefit of being able to use the individual pieces you get- you have to grind for all of it And also unlike other parts of the game, I don't think there's a way to skip that with real money either, they genuinely do just want you to slave away at dungeons, delves, bosses, and quests if all you want to do is engage with an unrelated minigame I promptly left the game again once I figured this out
1:26:00 So you just chewed out the devs for making Balmora too different, and in the next few minutes, chewed them out for leaving Sadanin the same.... what?
The story behind Orisinium being solo player oriented is that, as you mentioned, it was preceeded by Group PvP Imperial City and Craglorn (not a DLC, but not available at the time of release) which was Group PvE oriented. So it kinda follows that the next thing, and something that a lot of people called for, was to be solo-player oriented. Marked also by the introduction of the first arena - Maelstrom Arena.
I’m going to be honest with you I haven’t watched the BG3 review because of spoilers, however I do plan on watching it since I love your reviews even if I don’t always agree 100% of the time
@@StratEdgyProductions omfg I can't believe you replied, was joking but DAMN I can't wait to see if you do a video on it. My friends think it's a perfect game/best of all time, and I'd be interested in actual criticism of the game. No pressure tho, if your playing it just for fun. It is the only MMO I can stomach because grinding makes my ADHD want to kill me.
I'm stoked to get to hear a new episode on release for the first time! Been retroactively bingeing the whole channel. There's probably few games I could give less of a crap about than ESO, but the last part flew by for me. Just wanted to say you're an incredibly talented orator and I could listen to you yap about anything at length. I even love when you go off topic and discuss philosophy or whatever, which is something I can't say about ANY other gamer channel. I'm about to get strapped down to donate white blood cells for 4 hours so this came at the perfect time
2:20:39 its not odd. Its on purpose dingus. For the exact reason you said, it counteracts your DOT build. The deer isn't meant to do this. You can't complain about there not being combat variety, and then also complain when a boss forces you to change tactics. Join the PTS forum, and participate in the PTS, then your voice will be heard by ZOS. You can even have actual discussions with the devs. I have many times. Gina, for example, is very responsive.
I can't explain it, but after listening to you talk about ESO for 5 hours, even with all the valid criticisms that would cause most people to have an embolism, I decided to redownload it. Thanks, Strat!
I am so confused, on your videos page it shows starfield is a flat circle as the last video you uploaded... 6 months ago... And the description here says this is 3 weeks old... Whats going on?
It's a very grindy game. And I think people underestimate how big it is too, and come to the game with expectations of completion, or trying everything. There are multiple barriers in the way of trying everything, the biggest of which is time. The second biggest of which is finding people to do stuff with if you happen to be a loner/introvert. Guilds kick you if you're absent for more than about a month, some after just 2 weeks, which is fair, but still an issue for an individual. So if you take a break from the game you can come back to find yourself in no guilds, with all your contacts list also offline for months. You don't want to join another big guild because you don't know how long you'll be playing this time, so are scared to commit. So then who do you grind death dealer's fete with? Or undaunted pledges, or trials? So the game is not just a large grind, but also a commitment if you want any chance of doing group content with capable players. From what I can tell, this is one of the things that distinguishes it as an mmo; massively multiplayer, not solo. And tbh I found Destiny 2 to be very similar in that regard. Grindy, with the best weapons locked behind 12 man trials. How do you access those weapons as a solo player with no experience of the trials? And this is why I quit Destiny after about 200 hours. So it would seem, and I say this as a casual player with 5k hours in the game, that ESO is not really for casual players, unless you just want to mooch about with housing, the story, or collecting achievements and things, which is actually how a lot of people do play the game.
Worst thing is that grind feels so unsatisfying because of this whole world-leveling system similar-ish to Oblivion, that the mobs always feel weirdly chonky
Weird, I queue as Arcanist Tank and I get an instant party from the queue. Probably you get long queues because you're a DPS while the community HATES tanking and healing. IT's more of a playerbase or community issue. Regarding the Transmutation Staion, I joined a guild where we teleport to the guild leader's house and use his Transmute Station instead. I highly recommend this for new players.
Been playing eso since release on XBOX, and I agree with most of your criticisms. Especially when it comes to grinding. Especially especially in the case of crafting. I'm a 9 trait master crafter, and nothing about becoming a master crafter was fun. It was freaking agony. Glad I did it because I'm significantly more self-reliant, but I certainly didn't enjoy doing it. Appreciate you using your platform to point that out, even though Zenimax likely won't give a damn. I will mention a lore issue you brought up though. Specifically about Barbas in the Morrowind storyline. Barbas is not a good or empathetic character. Sure, he can come off that way because he usually helps get the player character a better deal, but not because he's a nice guy. You brought up his appearance in Skyrim a few times. Well, in Skyrim he tells the player the story behind the Rueful Axe. It's cruel and f*cked up, to say the least. But at no point does Barbas show any semblance of empathy, nor did he talk about how he tried to tell Vile that his actions were cruel or anything of the sort. In fact, he tells you about what Vile did like he's delivering the punchline of a joke(and assholes like me who are into dark humor probably laughed at that). More over, the quest you go on with Barbas, which he has no objections to, is that you hunt down the grieving father Vile had played his cruel joke on and murder him, and potentially his daughter too. Barbas doesn't provide an option to spare the father or save the daughter. He shows no empathy at all. He's completely ok with you going to kill this father and his daughter, all while presenting the situation as comical. The reason Barbas actually tends to come off as a good and caring guy is that he intervenes when Vile is doing something that will ultimately hurt himself. Vile is clever, but he often acts out of irrational emotion in a way that is self-sabotaging. So Barbas intervenes for the good of Vile, and convinces the player to follow his advice by manipulating the empathy of the player. But because his solutions usually seem far less needlessly cruel or irrational than Vile, he comes of as a nice guy. He is not. Barbas would happily kill thousands of people if he thought it was in his master's best interest. You could argue that the Morrowind storyline seemed to dumb down Barbas, and perhaps that he wouldn't be stupid enough to help with such a convoluted plan. That may well be a valid criticism, but the idea that Barbas is caring and empathetic...no. He just uses player empathy in order to get them to side with him, while ultimately working for the good of Vile. Also, the reason the Morrowind storyline is so short is because it's actually a small part of a story that spans three DLCs total. Morrowind, Clockwork City and Summerset Isles. Which is f*cked up that you have to pay more money just to get the full storyline there, but that's the Zenimax we know and tolerate...
2:00:32 you don't have to buy Morrowind expansion. It comes free with the game. I know, it's an honest mistake for us old dudes, because we had to pay for it back in the day, but a couple years ago I'm pretty sure they made Morrowind part of the base game.
2:19:42 Anybody else reminded of a ground Pokémon like Diglet doing a move like "Dig" and then you try to attack him but it's like "Um, he's dug a hole, bruh." And then he does "Dig" at you? That's what this reminds me of - but I'm raised on Pokémon Stadium.
Fighting Dragons Solo: "Unless you're a tank, you are going to have a bad time." Tank Main: "No thanks, I have other shit to do today... and into tomorrow." Best solo solution is a highly competent solo build. Examples: semi-tanky stamsorc or even a WW build, though there are many others...
The one thing I really like are those free dlc introduction quests that you get on the crown store under "quest starters". They release them whenever they announce a new DLC expansion. These quests really make use of the entire vanilla game map, and send you all over Tamriel finding clues to the main story of the upcoming expansion. They aren't massive, but they are pretty long for something that basically amounts to a teaser.
Then there's the thing about the queue, where it almost sounded like you felt you couldn't do anything while you were waiting to get into a dungeon. I agree that there are quite a few grinding experiences that are basically inexcusable in this game, one of the main ones being the skill trees, but I feel like you're being intellectually dishonest about a lot of the stuff that really isn't bad at all as well; the keys, sets and crafting material acquisition being some of the main standouts.
one of the troubles i had playing that game is that the number of sets keep going up with no good way to search out what sets even exist or search them out in an organized way
Dude emphasizes having a background in MMO games, completely disregards the trading system and spends 5 days on an item he could pick up in 10 minutes tops Yeah I too don't like many ESO systems and mechanics, but my god dude
I'm curious why you assume I disregarded the market when I say in the video that I could have bought the rings from guild stores, but I didn't want to. It's curious.
@@StratEdgyProductions Must have missed that part using the video as second screen footage, but still what's a tangent worth if you willfully go out of your way to do it in such a way.
@@knavenformed9436There exists Solo Self Found for a reason, and I'm with Strat that a marketplace and trading shouldn't be necessary in a well balanced game. ESO favors a LOT of Solo play for the vast majority of time.. until you suddenly absolutely have to, with poor alternatives and then the systems' weaknesses are obvious.
gotta say, I hate the "hardcore MMOs like Everquest where players could grief each other were the best!" narrative. Because in reality it isn't true. The people peddling it are remembering it through red tinted glasses, of playing when they were kids. When their time was cheap and options were few. The reality is that most players don't put up with those MMOs, they leave them, leaving the minority who likes to grief people left in a ghost town of a dead game. It's just players misguidedly asking developers to kill the game they love in pursuit of nostalgia.
100% correct and these people only see the folly of what they're praising when a modern game attempts to be a "hardcore pvp" MMO. It was fun because we were younger and it was high-stakes. Have you noticed that the pursuit of nostalgia, as you say, appears to be a strong theme in gaming now? it's almost sad sometimes. In reality these old MMOs were sort of bs. You could lose eight hours of your progress in two minutes to someone who was utilizing some cheese strat that you'd yet to learn, and many people entirely quit the game in these circumstances. I've been playing runescape for 21 years lol.
Except the fact that Everquest is still around, has a thriving community, and games like Tarkov exist, and thrive. There's a community out there for that sort of game, it's just not gonna ship 11 million copies in this day and age. Most people NEED convenience because they don't have time for that kind of shit anymore, and it's understandable.
@@StratEdgyProductions While Everquest is still around and still getting new expansions, it's far from the giant it once was. And yes, there's Tarkov, and yes, there's Rust, and Mortal Online II in MMO terms. But these games are an acquired taste, partly because of some of the points in your (and other people's) comment(s).
As someone who plays a lot of Black Desert everything you complained about MMO game design wise is so trivial compared to that game - great video though as usual :p
SHOUT OUT TO ALL THE PATREONS OF THIS CHANNEL. I LOVE THIS CHANNEL SO MUCH. I WOULD GENUINELY BE SAD, DEPRESSED, UPSET, MAD IF THIS CHANNEL DIDN'T EXIST. I LOOK FORWARD TO EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THESE VIDEOS NO MATTER THE CONTENT BECAUSE STRAT HELPED ME GET THROUGH TOUGH ASS TIMES BUT IS ALOS JUST VERY GOOD AT THIS. IF I HAD THE MEANS, I WOULD SPONSOR THE CHANNEL AND PROBABLY DO SOMETHING TO FINACIALLY HELP VETERANS OR SOMEHTING OF THAT NATURE OUT OF THE SPIRIT OF THE CHANNEL. MORE SOCIAL COMENTARY ESSAYS WOULD BE DOPE TOO IF GIVEN THE TIME.
I'd like to, but I need to see what this video does views wise to see if it's sustainable. It's the whole reason I haven't gone back and done the New Vegas DLCs or finished the Fallout 2 videos. It might happen eventually when I get bored and don't know what else to do, we'll see.
2 year long fan here, i didnt even know you were still making vids because before you released bg3 vid, you just disappeared from my feed for some reason. Been catching up at work, i missed your work man, youre hilarious
I bought 3 versions of this dam game only got to play it on my sisters ps4 first when it came out and got down to only pants and started punching everything and my sister was furious in my apparent insanity. Nah i was just showing her my younger sister, who at the time just became a elder scrolls fan with skyrim, to show her that this game was dumbed down easy down gruel and i could no hit/unarmed like it was nothing.
A shame you skipped the Thieves Guild storyline and area, the first few DLC were really the peak. After that it gradually became stale and formulaic, especially from Elsweyr onwards.
1:35:08 the 9 divines and daedric princes are the same. When it came to creating mundus, the gods had to expend the majority of their power, the daedric princes are as powerful as they are cos didnt engage with that creation.
While I don't always agree with your opinions, I can at least respect them and I think you have made some very good points throughout various videos. I really liked this series on ESO because I could never get myself into it and I kind of wanted to know what it was all about. While I doubt I ever would try it again, thanks for filling me in!
Hey man I think I left a comment on the BG3 saying you dropped that shit way too early and that most of us plebs weren't done with it yet. This is still true for me.
You are wrong though. Champion point buffs happen well beyond where you are. There are *massive* buffs in the Red and Blue trees. End game content in the game, however, is far less about being a high level. There are a few "end game" styles. - Housing - Crafting - PvE - PvP Housing is as simple as successfully collecting all kinds of stuff to set up cool houses to show off. This is a path many take because they either don't enjoy PvP or end game PvE, or because they actually quite enjoy decorating houses. Crafting takes at the very least, months of grinding, solely because the last unlock for each item is 30 days. (Also, the DLC for rings is Summerset, not Orsinium). This is a monumental task, but some people enjoy it, just as people in WoW and such enjoy such things PvE end game is Vet Trials and DLC dungeons as well as speed runs for certain dungeons (and now, Infinite Archive) PvP endgame is being emperor and perpetually setting up the best builds. Beyond end game, there's another problem with your statements for items. You can transmute items using a transmutation station, meaning you could have made a second ring right then and there after collecting it (it's in literally every guild ever dude. You're being ridiculous). As well, chests in Dolmens and the over world are not part of the procured items. It's 100% RNG and not binding the item wouldn't have changed anything. Procured items are specifically from Dungeons.
You could ask someone else to craft the gear you needed for a small fee, if you provide the materials most people will do it for free if you are in a guild with them
I'm 5 minutes in, don't know if he adress this later, but there's no winning against fanboys. -Guy that plays for 300 hours then says the game is bad/has issues = "reeeeee, you haven't played enough"!! -Guy with 3k hours played says the game is bad/has issues = "reeeeee, if the game is so bad why have you played it that much"!! The middle ground simply doesn't exist for these people, you either not played it enough, or you played it too much, and in both cases your cristcism will always be invalid lol.
There's a game called StarCraft, a combination of the Stalker games (and their big mods) and Minecraft. Played the game for 300+ hours and achieved an "almost" endgame build. I can't say shit on the Steam forums, I'm only "an old ass gamer seething against the core game". In reality I've played the game enough to know that the developers don't give a fuck about the game. Fuck those people, Game is shit and will be shit if the developers don't care about the core gameplay.
1:15:55 Yes, Boethia tricked a righteous and noble knight named Trinimac into giving her a kiss. As he leaned in her mouth opened large enough to swallow him whole. Then she transformed into him and went around being a nuisance and farting on people and being gross. Then when she was done she squatted down and pooped a massive log which got up and limped away in shame. Trinimac considers this tale "too literal" which implies the essence is true.
Sounds like all that Morrowind DLc is missing is one of Jiub's ancestors, swearing that one day he would be avenged as he's killed by a proto-cliffracer.
I love Wrothgar too, but my absolute favorite area is Western Skyrim- helps that the main quest is vampire related, i still love heading there to destroy Harrowstorms on a wknd...big fun when there's a big group. Great video, i agree with a lot of your points❤
Ok so i made it 25 minutes before i had to write this. My main complaints are your approach to the gearing system, especially crafting. I will agree Wrothgar sucks for Overland Set drops because of the whole no incursions issue. But, when it comes to crafting you left out a lot of info. First, your average player is not using Gold Tier gear( thats reserved for Time Trial Chasers usually). Second, everyone has five guild slots and there exist a multitude of guilds whose sole purpose is crafting stuff for people and they usually give a discount if you join the guild and supply the mats. I just switched from a medium armor build to a light armor build. It took me about 3 hours to get my new gear one of which was the same set you were chasing in wrothgar. Also there are numerous guild houses that are open to the public that have transmutation tables people can use. Now as for your comments about being at endgame. Yes the gear cap is CP160 as that is what Overland Content and Normal Base Game Dungeons are designed around. However, there are other CP thresholds. At CP300 you hit the stat cap for Health/Magicka/Stamina, this is also the recommended level for Base Game Vet Dungeons,Base Game Trials and DLC Normal Dungeons. Next is CP500 which is for Base Game Vet Trials, DLC Trials, and DLC Vet Dungeons. And Finally(for now) is CP800 which is Vet DLC Trials. These are roughly the required CP to be able to perform at or near peak for the listed content. So yes the vast majority can be completed at CP160 but there are still reasons to go beyond that. Personally i believe these should be hard locks and not just suggestions from Zos/The Community.
You should spend your time and money on more interesting games that respect your time and are more weird and audacious. That's not a quip, that's legitimate financial advice
I feel like all MMO players have some kind of completely unrelenting resolve or they’re just masochists. Haven’t played a single MMO where there wasn’t some huge glaring flaw that stopped my interest. You’re simply built different man.
38:00 you are so wrong because there is a ton of people doing imperial city because there are many rewards you can buy either for yourself like motifs styles and costumes or to sell them for a lot of gold also you can buy materials that are very expensive like hakeijo for enchanting since its the bis enchant right now :D good video watched full
You can transmute yourself any gear youve collected at the transmutation station. its costs around 50 transmutation crystals which you gain by doing dungeons
That’s my bad, I usually link your vids to the several ant colonies in my back yard, I didn’t watch the baulders gate vid so they didn’t either.
So, it's your fault...
Hahaha!! You guys are wild, man.
@@StratEdgyProductions Dude you need to get off that ESO Payment Plan and get you some GRIM DAWN. It'll scratch that itch
It might just be me, but I didn't watch the BG3 video because I didn't want spoilers. That can be an issue with videos on newer rpgs. There is an argument to be made that making videos about older games is safer than new games, unless the new game sucks and no-one cares if you spoil it (Starfield for example).
Hey, little unfair man. I don't watch your videos while I'm doing something else that's boring. I watch your videos when I'm at work, which means you have my full attention.
Same here best use of work hours
Same, at a hotel too
likewise
I'm at work right now, SAME! My job is 100% just showing up, so from there I just kinda watch Strat and post comments. My boss peeks in I just ask her to kindly come back later, I'm actually jerking off under my desk.
Same
I love hearing you complain. I've reached that age where I'm always either complaining or agreeing with someone complaining.
Old guys rock
He’ll yeah borther
Get off my lawn you two !
Was shocked to see that I have 350 hours in this game and have no memory of ever playing it.
if its pc could just be the terrible outdated updating system ESO has
Games have evolved from a storytelling device you can have fun with into junk food. You eat it and forget you ate at all, so you want another one.
@@Cocc0nuttt0ESO is the MSG of games
I have 200. I did all the vanilla three main faction quests and a lot of Dark Brotherhood and Thieves Guild and the only thing I remember is the Khajiit Mane selection quest and a bit of the main story. It doesn't help that every NPC in ESO looks exactly the same as any other within their respective races besides the main story crew.
I’m pretty sure I put +3-4 hundred hours in, I was subbed to eso plus for at least a year. I remember being really happy about talking crows at one point.
3:20:01 "Oh, Hi!"
Cat maidboy in the house!
A 3hr long Strat-Edgy video!?
Guys will see this and say "Hell Yeah".
HELL YEAH!
Hell Yeah
hell yeah
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Hell yeah brother
So I have not watched the baulders gate 3 video because I dont want any spoilers until me and my friend beat it. I think a lot of people are in a similar boat.
I was in the same boat! I wanted to watch it but didn't want to ruin anything
Same here
I mean its also not a shocker to your average human that the hype for a game/series release is greater before release than after. Plus your point being that its an extremely narrative heavy game means people won't look at reviews, maybe an 'is it worth it' type video at most, so the timing of the video was foreseeably bad. Release it in a year instead of cashing in on the ill-perceived hype train and it would've done as good as his other Baldur's Gate videos, which he's using as a metric for success in this video.
i played eso for an entire hour before dropping it, deleting it, and never picking it up again. why am i going to consume a 4 hour long, in-depth analysis of dlc for a game i have absolutely zero interest in playing?
_because i like your funny words, magic man._
my god you are a specimen thats for sure.
@@pinkleWeenkieshe is a man of the people.
Same. Well I played it for more than an hour. I tried a couple of different classes for an hour or so each. I realised that I didn't hate the class I picked, I hated the game. So I deleted it as well.
An hour? That’s it? That’s like playing Daggerfall for a total of 1 hour, and then deciding that the game is not for you. That’s not enough time! 😅 I didn’t like Daggerfall for the first hour or two, but after 15 hours of somewhat enjoying it, I became hooked! The story is more investing than any of the other elder scrolls main quests.
ESO is overwhelming, unless you choose to follow the main story arcs of the game, which you can find on UESP. The game doesn’t give you quests, you have to seek them out yourself, and it’s overwhelming if you don’t have a primary quest line to focus on and always come back to when you get tired of it.
@@TheJittering 15 hours is an unreal time investment for many people, me included. It's borderline offensive when a game thinks it deserves 15 hours before it's even fun. I had that kind of time when I was in high school, but most of us would simply rather invest that time in something we know for a fact we'll be satisfied with.
I think people are confused with what MMO means in 2024. This isn't 1999, MMO does not mean Massively Multiplayer Online. No No you plebs. In 2024, MMO now stands for Massively Monetized Online. They took the multiplayer aspect out, as you can now solo most "MMO" content.
you can solo base game stuff but the dlc's if you're doing on vet it's a lot more of an issue to solo. Some of the new dungeons are absolutely cracked out on their hardmodes and soloing them would require some really gimicky stuff.
TLDR?@@wynngwynn
Stop playing dog shit mmos
Its about the option. If you think of the goal of mmos as creating a realistic social world, then it's realistic that a loner can get by.
Eh, people back in 1999 didn't have Discord or that many options to communicate, so they did so in game. Nowadays a lot of this communication is on other platforms or chat systems. Plus if you want the original 90's experience, go play Everquest. It's still up, but is far from the juggernaught it once was.
As for the solo aspect, having your gaming experience depend solely (if not mostly) is a risky strategy as you never know who you'll be playing with. And if the community dies, well, the community was the game so now there is less game to experience. Go play Mortal Online II or some other sandbox MMO if this is what you want. Solo players in MMOs now are a big audience, so developpers are going to cater to this audience.
For what its worth, the only reason I skipped the Baldur's Gate video was because of potential spoilers. Love the videos, and I'm excited to watch it when I finish playing through.
Always felt the whole "you only played X amount of hours of this mmo it didn't even get good yet" criticism is done in bad faith. It was ridiculous then and it's ridiculous now.
If the game doesn't grab you immediately the start is done badly, if the game requires 400 hour+ commitment before you can yank out your anal beads like a rip start lawnmower and achieve mmo coom nirvana the pay off isn't worth those 400 hours of slog.
And of course when they say you didn't put in the time for the coom nirvana they're usually talking about end game raiding which is hell. Not because of the content, the content usually is at least serviceable, but the PEOPLE. It's such a mess of different people, you get Jesus Christ Raid Superstar who is SUCH a nice person you want to marry them or you get asshunter9000 who ate every AOE and is colecting vuln stacks like pokemon and BLAMING YOU FOR IT or you get something in between which is usually nice.
Point is, if you threw a fuck ton of time into an activity you get attached to it and defend it like a dog their bone, because they wasted their time! It must have been worth fucking something! Right?!
you 100% nailed the sunken cost fallacy. People create so much investment in this game, it becomes so important to them because they've put time, energy and money into it and not because it's actually a good game. I give a game one, maybe two hours maximum to earn our attention!
it makes those people more likely to rabidly defend it and actively expect everyone they play with to be at the absolute top of their game all the time - because they believe everyone should and will take the game as seriously as they will. Some people feel real social prestige and personal power/importance running raids and it's both sad and funny. Mixed in are are completely regular and normal people.
The culture of MMOs has quickly changed into one of single losers in their early-mid 30s desperately running away from life the same way they used to play MMOs after school as a kid. When you highlight their sacred cow is full of shit, they've been rolling about in that shit for 3-6 years. They can't smell it any more lmao
These days I don't give the game even a chance if I see, that it tries to sell me a solution for a game play problem, let alone sink 40h+ to see if it gets "fun after that".
1h is what I'll give. An 1h 30m if I'm feeling generous, because
Your criticism of barbas and vile in the morrowind dlc is really spot on and shows how even the mainline successor games seem to be progressively forgetting what makes their lore interesting.
Does Bethesda still have a lore master?
@@Bleusilences Without Micheal they have been doomed for a while.
@@Bleusilencesif by lore master you mean keeper of sycophantic dogs than yes emil delivers on that front. Anything he writes is terrible, yet people still enjoy it. I feel like that says volumes of people who both accept mediocrity as normal, and find it enjoyable.
@@lucamckenn5932yeah for mainline Bethesda games not ESO
In High Isle dlc they even forgot the lore of their own character, Jakarn. In the base Daggerfall storyline he's a womanizer, and he tries to compete with you on kill count. In High Isle he's a simp, and a coward who's scared to fight.
I can't afford to give to patreon so I'll just thank you for giving actual mechanical analysis. Rather than retrospective cosplaying as critique style videos. I appreciate it 😊
wouldn't a critique style video include a mechanical analysis if it was a good critique?
Just wanted to say I skipped the Baldur's Gate 3 video because I was worried about spoilers, as I'm sure is the case for many others as well.
“Pfft, obviously you didn’t get far enough into the game, you can’t criticize it yet!”
The game costs $20. So it gets $20 worth of my time to prove it’s worth playing.
Always excited to see a strat-edgy video show up in my feed. Love these vids
oh my god its 3 hours this is amazing
It really sucks about the grinding. There are a lot of things I love about the game like the zones, housing, crafting, story, and aesthetics I like. But I had to stop playing the game because to get the stuff I wanted, it was like having a second job. At 37:18, yeah my feeling was “wtf am I doing with my life?”
Yes! I love these long ass videos that fill the emptiness of my decaying immortal vampire soul! Thank you, Strat von Edgy. I shall delay the vampire apocalypse a bit longer now.
if you leave one armory slot blank you can make any build on the fly without going to a temple You get 2 free.
31:12 One trick I learned is to use your scroll only when you are inside the dungeon. I had this happen to me many times when I was new and never even realized that the scrolls had a timer.
Just a point regarding your BG3 video. I usually watch all your vids but have not even opened that one because I haven't even had time to play the game and would like to know as little about it as possible. Idk if that is why it flopped but I know other people in my position. Hence why I watch your other vids about older stuff.
Same here, trying to avoid spoilers for BG3. Now idk if I want to splurge on it or Like a Dragon Infinite Wealth
So I'm listening to the rebuttal of various criticisms. I've played ESO to death, but I quit a couple of years ago. Nothing felt better than quitting. The game was becoming too much like work. Anyway, I had about 3,000cp, I'd solo'd everything that could be solo'd. The game just kept getting easier, even using characters with cp switched off. My point is: all your opinions about ESO are valid. These criticisms are just garbage. You don't have to play 400 hours to form an opinion. You don't have to be CP 160+ to form an opinion. The game doesn't change all that much once you do the main quest and the faction quests. Sure, you can do veteran dungeons, but they're just harder versions of dungeons you already did. All that changes is that you can do more of the trials. That's not a lot of content though. Unless you like doing the same trial over and over, it gets old fast. If you haven't done all of them, you're likely not missing much. In general, you can experience most of what ESO has to offer with one level 50 characters. It's not a hard game, and nearly everything that is hard has a non-hard mode. Sure, the verteran dungeons do change the gameplay a bit from normal dugeons, but it's not as though they're a totally new experience. The DLCs just add more of the same. I liked a lot of the DLC story quests, but they are all very similar to each other. Most are worth doing, just don't expect anything too radical. Anyone can offer feedback on ESO without 100s of hours. Chances are, if you don't like the first 50 hours you aren't going to like the next 2000.
I have to admit seeing that a 3 hour Stratedy in my feed got me rock hard!
The reason MMO p(l)ayers claim you need as many hours played as they individually have is because they don't want confirmation to the feeling that they may have wasted those hours
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this is why democracy works , funny thumbnails
Hope this video pops off because of your wise decision
In Maelstrom arena when that giant lizard boss screams you are not supposed to bash him. It gives him enrage making all his attacks oneshot. You are supposed to kill one of mages that spawn and run up to the other, because he will create a dome that protects from scream. After scream is over, you kill the mage, otherwise he buffs the lizard boss.
That's pretty much every one shot mechanic. If you see it your party did a mechanic wrong. They don't just appear. if It does just appear though tank fucked up a taunt and a tank buster hit someone else.
Modern Extraction and PvP Survival game still have that aspect of trusting people leading to emergent gameplay
I recently came back to ESO because of the card game they added in High Isle. It's a really neat deckbuilder where you and your opponent race to build up gold and political power from a shared pool of decks based on specific characters
Now, these decks are set in stone, the only variation being which ones you choose to bring into the match with, and a small handful of cards that have linear upgrades which replace the original
You'd think this would mean they can't enforce a crazy amount of grinding to get the non-default ones like they would with a more standard CCG that makes you collect individual cards
And if you thought that, you'd be wrong. See what they did was they took these decks and they split them up into pieces, and you have to grind entire DLC expansions to assemble all the pieces. And unlike items in a set or cards in a CCG, you don't even get the benefit of being able to use the individual pieces you get- you have to grind for all of it
And also unlike other parts of the game, I don't think there's a way to skip that with real money either, they genuinely do just want you to slave away at dungeons, delves, bosses, and quests if all you want to do is engage with an unrelated minigame
I promptly left the game again once I figured this out
1:26:00 So you just chewed out the devs for making Balmora too different, and in the next few minutes, chewed them out for leaving Sadanin the same.... what?
Dude I try to watch all your videos twice. If I could like them twice I would. ❤
The story behind Orisinium being solo player oriented is that, as you mentioned, it was preceeded by Group PvP Imperial City and Craglorn (not a DLC, but not available at the time of release) which was Group PvE oriented. So it kinda follows that the next thing, and something that a lot of people called for, was to be solo-player oriented. Marked also by the introduction of the first arena - Maelstrom Arena.
I’m going to be honest with you I haven’t watched the BG3 review because of spoilers, however I do plan on watching it since I love your reviews even if I don’t always agree 100% of the time
Now I wonder if we can force this guy to play FFXIV
I already am. I love it. Great game so far.
@@StratEdgyProductions omfg I can't believe you replied, was joking but DAMN I can't wait to see if you do a video on it. My friends think it's a perfect game/best of all time, and I'd be interested in actual criticism of the game. No pressure tho, if your playing it just for fun. It is the only MMO I can stomach because grinding makes my ADHD want to kill me.
damn bro come up for air @@robertfaucher3750
I'm stoked to get to hear a new episode on release for the first time! Been retroactively bingeing the whole channel. There's probably few games I could give less of a crap about than ESO, but the last part flew by for me. Just wanted to say you're an incredibly talented orator and I could listen to you yap about anything at length. I even love when you go off topic and discuss philosophy or whatever, which is something I can't say about ANY other gamer channel.
I'm about to get strapped down to donate white blood cells for 4 hours so this came at the perfect time
This is a three and a half hour advertisement for that horse pet.
I cannot be convinced someone would willingly have that follow them around.
3 and a half hour video on my favorite mmo? From Strat? Count me tf in
2:20:39 its not odd. Its on purpose dingus. For the exact reason you said, it counteracts your DOT build. The deer isn't meant to do this.
You can't complain about there not being combat variety, and then also complain when a boss forces you to change tactics.
Join the PTS forum, and participate in the PTS, then your voice will be heard by ZOS. You can even have actual discussions with the devs. I have many times. Gina, for example, is very responsive.
I can't explain it, but after listening to you talk about ESO for 5 hours, even with all the valid criticisms that would cause most people to have an embolism, I decided to redownload it. Thanks, Strat!
I am so confused, on your videos page it shows starfield is a flat circle as the last video you uploaded... 6 months ago...
And the description here says this is 3 weeks old... Whats going on?
??? That's really fucking weird.
I came this close to re-buying this game for pc last night, thanks for reminding me why I never want to play this game again :)
It's a very grindy game. And I think people underestimate how big it is too, and come to the game with expectations of completion, or trying everything. There are multiple barriers in the way of trying everything, the biggest of which is time. The second biggest of which is finding people to do stuff with if you happen to be a loner/introvert. Guilds kick you if you're absent for more than about a month, some after just 2 weeks, which is fair, but still an issue for an individual. So if you take a break from the game you can come back to find yourself in no guilds, with all your contacts list also offline for months. You don't want to join another big guild because you don't know how long you'll be playing this time, so are scared to commit. So then who do you grind death dealer's fete with? Or undaunted pledges, or trials?
So the game is not just a large grind, but also a commitment if you want any chance of doing group content with capable players. From what I can tell, this is one of the things that distinguishes it as an mmo; massively multiplayer, not solo. And tbh I found Destiny 2 to be very similar in that regard. Grindy, with the best weapons locked behind 12 man trials. How do you access those weapons as a solo player with no experience of the trials? And this is why I quit Destiny after about 200 hours. So it would seem, and I say this as a casual player with 5k hours in the game, that ESO is not really for casual players, unless you just want to mooch about with housing, the story, or collecting achievements and things, which is actually how a lot of people do play the game.
Worst thing is that grind feels so unsatisfying because of this whole world-leveling system similar-ish to Oblivion, that the mobs always feel weirdly chonky
Weird, I queue as Arcanist Tank and I get an instant party from the queue. Probably you get long queues because you're a DPS while the community HATES tanking and healing. IT's more of a playerbase or community issue.
Regarding the Transmutation Staion, I joined a guild where we teleport to the guild leader's house and use his Transmute Station instead. I highly recommend this for new players.
Been playing eso since release on XBOX, and I agree with most of your criticisms. Especially when it comes to grinding. Especially especially in the case of crafting. I'm a 9 trait master crafter, and nothing about becoming a master crafter was fun. It was freaking agony. Glad I did it because I'm significantly more self-reliant, but I certainly didn't enjoy doing it. Appreciate you using your platform to point that out, even though Zenimax likely won't give a damn.
I will mention a lore issue you brought up though. Specifically about Barbas in the Morrowind storyline. Barbas is not a good or empathetic character. Sure, he can come off that way because he usually helps get the player character a better deal, but not because he's a nice guy.
You brought up his appearance in Skyrim a few times. Well, in Skyrim he tells the player the story behind the Rueful Axe. It's cruel and f*cked up, to say the least. But at no point does Barbas show any semblance of empathy, nor did he talk about how he tried to tell Vile that his actions were cruel or anything of the sort. In fact, he tells you about what Vile did like he's delivering the punchline of a joke(and assholes like me who are into dark humor probably laughed at that). More over, the quest you go on with Barbas, which he has no objections to, is that you hunt down the grieving father Vile had played his cruel joke on and murder him, and potentially his daughter too. Barbas doesn't provide an option to spare the father or save the daughter. He shows no empathy at all. He's completely ok with you going to kill this father and his daughter, all while presenting the situation as comical.
The reason Barbas actually tends to come off as a good and caring guy is that he intervenes when Vile is doing something that will ultimately hurt himself. Vile is clever, but he often acts out of irrational emotion in a way that is self-sabotaging. So Barbas intervenes for the good of Vile, and convinces the player to follow his advice by manipulating the empathy of the player. But because his solutions usually seem far less needlessly cruel or irrational than Vile, he comes of as a nice guy. He is not. Barbas would happily kill thousands of people if he thought it was in his master's best interest.
You could argue that the Morrowind storyline seemed to dumb down Barbas, and perhaps that he wouldn't be stupid enough to help with such a convoluted plan. That may well be a valid criticism, but the idea that Barbas is caring and empathetic...no. He just uses player empathy in order to get them to side with him, while ultimately working for the good of Vile.
Also, the reason the Morrowind storyline is so short is because it's actually a small part of a story that spans three DLCs total. Morrowind, Clockwork City and Summerset Isles. Which is f*cked up that you have to pay more money just to get the full storyline there, but that's the Zenimax we know and tolerate...
2:00:32 you don't have to buy Morrowind expansion. It comes free with the game.
I know, it's an honest mistake for us old dudes, because we had to pay for it back in the day, but a couple years ago I'm pretty sure they made Morrowind part of the base game.
2:19:42 Anybody else reminded of a ground Pokémon like Diglet doing a move like "Dig" and then you try to attack him but it's like "Um, he's dug a hole, bruh." And then he does "Dig" at you? That's what this reminds me of - but I'm raised on Pokémon Stadium.
I'm so happy you released this and I'm excited to watch over the next few days
Fighting Dragons Solo: "Unless you're a tank, you are going to have a bad time."
Tank Main: "No thanks, I have other shit to do today... and into tomorrow."
Best solo solution is a highly competent solo build. Examples: semi-tanky stamsorc or even a WW build, though there are many others...
Oh God thank you. I have been watching the other eso video like 3 or 4 times already.
I love ESO. I love your videos. This feels like Christmas. Thanks Strat.
The one thing I really like are those free dlc introduction quests that you get on the crown store under "quest starters". They release them whenever they announce a new DLC expansion. These quests really make use of the entire vanilla game map, and send you all over Tamriel finding clues to the main story of the upcoming expansion. They aren't massive, but they are pretty long for something that basically amounts to a teaser.
Then there's the thing about the queue, where it almost sounded like you felt you couldn't do anything while you were waiting to get into a dungeon. I agree that there are quite a few grinding experiences that are basically inexcusable in this game, one of the main ones being the skill trees, but I feel like you're being intellectually dishonest about a lot of the stuff that really isn't bad at all as well; the keys, sets and crafting material acquisition being some of the main standouts.
I didn't watch your BG3 video because I hadn't beaten it yet and didn't want to be spoiled.
Have always loved your videos man, glad to see you're still around, making content and shiz.
one of the troubles i had playing that game is that the number of sets keep going up with no good way to search out what sets even exist or search them out in an organized way
Dude emphasizes having a background in MMO games, completely disregards the trading system and spends 5 days on an item he could pick up in 10 minutes tops
Yeah I too don't like many ESO systems and mechanics, but my god dude
I'm curious why you assume I disregarded the market when I say in the video that I could have bought the rings from guild stores, but I didn't want to. It's curious.
@@StratEdgyProductions
Must have missed that part using the video as second screen footage, but still what's a tangent worth if you willfully go out of your way to do it in such a way.
@@knavenformed9436There exists Solo Self Found for a reason, and I'm with Strat that a marketplace and trading shouldn't be necessary in a well balanced game. ESO favors a LOT of Solo play for the vast majority of time.. until you suddenly absolutely have to, with poor alternatives and then the systems' weaknesses are obvious.
gotta say, I hate the "hardcore MMOs like Everquest where players could grief each other were the best!" narrative. Because in reality it isn't true. The people peddling it are remembering it through red tinted glasses, of playing when they were kids. When their time was cheap and options were few. The reality is that most players don't put up with those MMOs, they leave them, leaving the minority who likes to grief people left in a ghost town of a dead game. It's just players misguidedly asking developers to kill the game they love in pursuit of nostalgia.
100% correct and these people only see the folly of what they're praising when a modern game attempts to be a "hardcore pvp" MMO. It was fun because we were younger and it was high-stakes. Have you noticed that the pursuit of nostalgia, as you say, appears to be a strong theme in gaming now? it's almost sad sometimes.
In reality these old MMOs were sort of bs. You could lose eight hours of your progress in two minutes to someone who was utilizing some cheese strat that you'd yet to learn, and many people entirely quit the game in these circumstances. I've been playing runescape for 21 years lol.
Except the fact that Everquest is still around, has a thriving community, and games like Tarkov exist, and thrive. There's a community out there for that sort of game, it's just not gonna ship 11 million copies in this day and age. Most people NEED convenience because they don't have time for that kind of shit anymore, and it's understandable.
@@StratEdgyProductions While Everquest is still around and still getting new expansions, it's far from the giant it once was. And yes, there's Tarkov, and yes, there's Rust, and Mortal Online II in MMO terms. But these games are an acquired taste, partly because of some of the points in your (and other people's) comment(s).
As someone who plays a lot of Black Desert everything you complained about MMO game design wise is so trivial compared to that game - great video though as usual :p
I didn’t find this channel. UA-cam had this channel auto play while i was asleep and i woke up to this. Keep up the good work dude 👍🏻.
SHOUT OUT TO ALL THE PATREONS OF THIS CHANNEL. I LOVE THIS CHANNEL SO MUCH. I WOULD GENUINELY BE SAD, DEPRESSED, UPSET, MAD IF THIS CHANNEL DIDN'T EXIST. I LOOK FORWARD TO EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THESE VIDEOS NO MATTER THE CONTENT BECAUSE STRAT HELPED ME GET THROUGH TOUGH ASS TIMES BUT IS ALOS JUST VERY GOOD AT THIS. IF I HAD THE MEANS, I WOULD SPONSOR THE CHANNEL AND PROBABLY DO SOMETHING TO FINACIALLY HELP VETERANS OR SOMEHTING OF THAT NATURE OUT OF THE SPIRIT OF THE CHANNEL. MORE SOCIAL COMENTARY ESSAYS WOULD BE DOPE TOO IF GIVEN THE TIME.
He's not gonna fuck you bro, relax and breathe
Dwemer oil does not melt enchanted steel beams. And Crasius Curio did not kill himself.
Are we getting a ESO DLC Part 2? Cause there are like 4 more Chapters not covered in the video :D
I'd like to, but I need to see what this video does views wise to see if it's sustainable. It's the whole reason I haven't gone back and done the New Vegas DLCs or finished the Fallout 2 videos. It might happen eventually when I get bored and don't know what else to do, we'll see.
This was sick to watch. Totally agree with most critiques.
I’d be curious to see your opinion on the last couple years of ESO content for sure
2 year long fan here, i didnt even know you were still making vids because before you released bg3 vid, you just disappeared from my feed for some reason. Been catching up at work, i missed your work man, youre hilarious
I did exactly what you recommended a while ago. I got an ESO plus subscription, and gradually went through the PVA content and had a blast.
I bought 3 versions of this dam game only got to play it on my sisters ps4 first when it came out and got down to only pants and started punching everything and my sister was furious in my apparent insanity. Nah i was just showing her my younger sister, who at the time just became a elder scrolls fan with skyrim, to show her that this game was dumbed down easy down gruel and i could no hit/unarmed like it was nothing.
A shame you skipped the Thieves Guild storyline and area, the first few DLC were really the peak. After that it gradually became stale and formulaic, especially from Elsweyr onwards.
1:35:08 the 9 divines and daedric princes are the same. When it came to creating mundus, the gods had to expend the majority of their power, the daedric princes are as powerful as they are cos didnt engage with that creation.
While I don't always agree with your opinions, I can at least respect them and I think you have made some very good points throughout various videos. I really liked this series on ESO because I could never get myself into it and I kind of wanted to know what it was all about. While I doubt I ever would try it again, thanks for filling me in!
Hey man I think I left a comment on the BG3 saying you dropped that shit way too early and that most of us plebs weren't done with it yet.
This is still true for me.
You are wrong though. Champion point buffs happen well beyond where you are. There are *massive* buffs in the Red and Blue trees.
End game content in the game, however, is far less about being a high level. There are a few "end game" styles.
- Housing
- Crafting
- PvE
- PvP
Housing is as simple as successfully collecting all kinds of stuff to set up cool houses to show off. This is a path many take because they either don't enjoy PvP or end game PvE, or because they actually quite enjoy decorating houses.
Crafting takes at the very least, months of grinding, solely because the last unlock for each item is 30 days. (Also, the DLC for rings is Summerset, not Orsinium). This is a monumental task, but some people enjoy it, just as people in WoW and such enjoy such things
PvE end game is Vet Trials and DLC dungeons as well as speed runs for certain dungeons (and now, Infinite Archive)
PvP endgame is being emperor and perpetually setting up the best builds.
Beyond end game, there's another problem with your statements for items. You can transmute items using a transmutation station, meaning you could have made a second ring right then and there after collecting it (it's in literally every guild ever dude. You're being ridiculous). As well, chests in Dolmens and the over world are not part of the procured items. It's 100% RNG and not binding the item wouldn't have changed anything. Procured items are specifically from Dungeons.
You could ask someone else to craft the gear you needed for a small fee, if you provide the materials most people will do it for free if you are in a guild with them
And miss the ability to analyze and criticize the crafting system? That would kind of defeat the point of an in depth review.
No multiple one-shot abilities for bosses that you have to pre-learn! That's the stupidest idea.
I'm 5 minutes in, don't know if he adress this later, but there's no winning against fanboys.
-Guy that plays for 300 hours then says the game is bad/has issues = "reeeeee, you haven't played enough"!!
-Guy with 3k hours played says the game is bad/has issues = "reeeeee, if the game is so bad why have you played it that much"!!
The middle ground simply doesn't exist for these people, you either not played it enough, or you played it too much, and in both cases your cristcism will always be invalid lol.
There's a game called StarCraft, a combination of the Stalker games (and their big mods) and Minecraft. Played the game for 300+ hours and achieved an "almost" endgame build. I can't say shit on the Steam forums, I'm only "an old ass gamer seething against the core game". In reality I've played the game enough to know that the developers don't give a fuck about the game. Fuck those people, Game is shit and will be shit if the developers don't care about the core gameplay.
How serendipitous! I Had just finished watching your older ESO review.
1:15:55 Yes, Boethia tricked a righteous and noble knight named Trinimac into giving her a kiss. As he leaned in her mouth opened large enough to swallow him whole. Then she transformed into him and went around being a nuisance and farting on people and being gross. Then when she was done she squatted down and pooped a massive log which got up and limped away in shame. Trinimac considers this tale "too literal" which implies the essence is true.
Thank you patrons for paying Strat! (Im broke)
And thank you Strat for making vids I can watch while ingoring work! (Im lazy, unrelated)
Sounds like all that Morrowind DLc is missing is one of Jiub's ancestors, swearing that one day he would be avenged as he's killed by a proto-cliffracer.
Very many minutes of Strat. Me like!
I love Wrothgar too, but my absolute favorite area is Western Skyrim- helps that the main quest is vampire related, i still love heading there to destroy Harrowstorms on a wknd...big fun when there's a big group. Great video, i agree with a lot of your points❤
I really dig the passing of thanks onto the donators and supporters of the channel. You have my sword.
Strat-edged me for 3 hours
🚬😎👍
I have been subscribed to this channel for years with the bell on and I didn't get a notification for this video or the bg3 video.
BEEN PATIENTLY WAITING
3:17:22 a khajiit named zamarak. Huh. I would have spelt it differently.
Ok so i made it 25 minutes before i had to write this. My main complaints are your approach to the gearing system, especially crafting. I will agree Wrothgar sucks for Overland Set drops because of the whole no incursions issue. But, when it comes to crafting you left out a lot of info. First, your average player is not using Gold Tier gear( thats reserved for Time Trial Chasers usually). Second, everyone has five guild slots and there exist a multitude of guilds whose sole purpose is crafting stuff for people and they usually give a discount if you join the guild and supply the mats.
I just switched from a medium armor build to a light armor build. It took me about 3 hours to get my new gear one of which was the same set you were chasing in wrothgar. Also there are numerous guild houses that are open to the public that have transmutation tables people can use.
Now as for your comments about being at endgame. Yes the gear cap is CP160 as that is what Overland Content and Normal Base Game Dungeons are designed around. However, there are other CP thresholds. At CP300 you hit the stat cap for Health/Magicka/Stamina, this is also the recommended level for Base Game Vet Dungeons,Base Game Trials and DLC Normal Dungeons. Next is CP500 which is for Base Game Vet Trials, DLC Trials, and DLC Vet Dungeons. And Finally(for now) is CP800 which is Vet DLC Trials. These are roughly the required CP to be able to perform at or near peak for the listed content. So yes the vast majority can be completed at CP160 but there are still reasons to go beyond that. Personally i believe these should be hard locks and not just suggestions from Zos/The Community.
I let out a scream of joy seeing a new video was up!
You should spend your time and money on more interesting games that respect your time and are more weird and audacious. That's not a quip, that's legitimate financial advice
I feel like all MMO players have some kind of completely unrelenting resolve or they’re just masochists. Haven’t played a single MMO where there wasn’t some huge glaring flaw that stopped my interest. You’re simply built different man.
Yes another Strat-Edgy video!
My mom is dead, a$$hole. She died in the Amazon when she was researching spiders!
Oh shit, bro, sorry the movie about your mom was so terrible. They did you wrong.
Yes another ESO video !
Ive been playing eso for some years. Left it at update 35. You get a sub entirely based on how funny you are. Thx
20:36 You can use it in the guild. Every guild has that.
18:43 Transmute station?
38:00 you are so wrong because there is a ton of people doing imperial city because there are many rewards you can buy either for yourself like motifs styles and costumes or to sell them for a lot of gold also you can buy materials that are very expensive like hakeijo for enchanting since its the bis enchant right now :D good video watched full
I don’t play ESO but I just gotta ask;
At 2:25 did that thing just puke on you as an attack? 💀
Most undead do
Need EQ &/Or EQ2 retrospectives / How to Everquest, post-haste
You can transmute yourself any gear youve collected at the transmutation station. its costs around 50 transmutation crystals which you gain by doing dungeons
Cant you use transmutation station inside a guild hall?