As an autistic person with synesthesia and misophonia, asmr is one of the only things that brings me out of a meltdown. It seems to flow along the same neural pathways and calms my nervous system. (And is a much healthier alternative to hitting your head!) HOWEVER, there are a lot of terrible "asmr" channels that include triggers which are abrasive and grate on my nervous system instead of relaxing it. The good channels are few and far between and I hoard them like treasures.
I commented elsewhere here on something closely related. And actually what you're saying here is in line very much with (part of) my line of thinking. And yes much better than head hitting.
As am I. I'm sorry it was killing your channel, but the algorithm linked me this video after you'd already retired the ASMR thing and I'm always curious. Perhaps another platform?
Thank you for making a version explaining asmr without using asmr! I’m interested in asmr as a concept but actually listening to asmr turns me into a feral animal, extremely bad sensory experience
@123here - I am exactly the same. The whispering gives me the worst possible chills and makes me want to toss my airpods out the window. I can't wait for the whole concept to die so I can finally start using autoplay UA-cam to fall asleep again. 4:10 Couldn't better explain what the clicking and whispering and smacking and heavy breathing makes me feel.
Most ASMR content gives me the reaction you talked about around the 4:05 mark, rage inducing, but also I can understand why people call it "tingly". Viscerally not a fan, I wonder if that says anything about me?
To me ASMR was a life changer. I have always experience it, especially as a child. I couldn’t explain as an adult the experience of feeling immediately drowsy whenever some people spoke in a certain way-until ASMR became a thing. To me, only spoken voice does the trick (any other triggers might be welcomed, but human voice is crucial). Sometimes I purposedly look for ASMR in languages I don’t speak, it helps focus more on the sound of the voice and the words. The only downside of the ASMR community’ss growth is that tingle immunity does exist. I need to take periodical breaks to experience tingles full power
I've come to like foreign or unintelligible speech a bit more in context of ASMR, though. It seems reasonable, that the sensation of being cared after correlates with understanding, so now I'm curious to know, how my case can be explained
Thanks for letting me in on this. I virtually had no clue anything of the sort of thing I was experiencing was real... Plus saying Dzień dobry as "Cień topry" is hilarious.
I clicked and listened to the whole thing, out of curiosity. Am amazed to learn this is 'a thing'! But, as mother used to say, "it takes all kinds to make the world go round"... just hope I don't start getting videos with the features you were describing. Only you, Mr language jones. I love your videos and would listen to almost anything you put up, but this one has amazed me!
Autistic and both of those are a regular discussion. There's a subtle difference between misophonia, CAPD and tactile defensiveness but they can be related, esp for someone with one or more of these. Obviously, for someone who is texture sensitive, mental sounds are louder and like misophonia. It's kind of like chalkboard scratch and chewing noises but for almost *every* thing touched or even seen touched. It's like all our mirror neurons get tuned into very specific things. (I promise they're not missing). I have to avert gaze, cover ears when I see someone even touch (bad material here) or even visible and not touched. It's a regular source of bewilderment how others differ in their tolerance of things. Thank you for covering this topic. (btw, you seem to never have the bad material near so one reason I like your channel).
little disappointed you didn't mention binaural audio as an enhancer- many people cannot actually experience the proper ASMR sensation if they are listening to someone whisper into a random mono microphone but can immediately understand when they hear properly done binaural ASMR, where the microphone is stereo, and each mic in the set is spaced approximately to represent ears on a head, and the minuscule difference of the speeds at which the sound makes it to each "ear" microphone enhances the effect substantially. i know at least personally, i'm entirely unable to get the meridian response without such a setup, people whispering into normal mono mics doesn't work at all. fun fact, these fancy binaural mics are also used for nature recording!
I've noticed that, as time passes, engagement seems to become more and more important for the algorithm. Myself, I just make my UA-cam subscription list the home page for my browser, so the algorithm doesn't matter for catching anything from channels I subscribe to, but I'm surely for down in the minority with that. Plus me not missing anything doesn't help new discovery.
I think an easy way to imagine/understand one possible asmr response is to think about the calm/relaxed/fuzzy feeling you probably get when someone plays with your hair for a while. You get that warm, fuzzy, relaxed, drowsy feeling. That’s the main feeling I get from asmr, but it’s uncommon for me to finally get that feeling.
for people with misophonia i do encourage you to seek out visual triggers like moving lights or closeup touch (or even those spidery head massager things for tactile-based asmr). Maybe it will help with understanding. I like visual triggers more anyway. Thank you so much for this video on the linguistics of it!
I get Frisson from music. Super intense for me too. Went to a Rush concert with my wife and it took my breath away. I was gasping for air and she asked me if I was ok. I managed to choke out the statement, “I’m ok. It’s really good” then had to sit down and let it wash over me. It’s just super intense pleasure from nowhere. I consider it a great gift and I blessing.
So this video mostly talks about audio triggers of ASMR (naturally), but for those of you with misonphobia or who just hate the awkwardness of the audio triggers. ASMR can also be triggered via visual and physical cues. My favorite cues are the visual ones. I also experience it when someone very very lightly scratches my back similar to how my mom put me to bed as a child. There’s also a game I played as a kid where someone pretends to crack an egg on my head which triggers the response. I’ve also felt ASMR rarely when all the right circumstances align to put me in a very happy/memorable state from childhood usually around the holidays under a comfy blanket surround by enjoyable sounds, sights and smells.
difference between P and B unvoiced/whispered to me and d,g vs. t,k are as follows: P uses slightly different lips shaped and puh is a short burst of air and then cut off (a glottal stop?) where "buh" is "softer" in terms of the release of air, rather than "held back and then released as a stronger puff" and not abruptly cut off at the tail end. d,g vs. t,k are similar but with less lip/tongue shape differentiation, seems to be primarily the air stoppage where d,g are the "soft/elongated" release of air and t,k are the stronger and abrupt versions. Neat. What you said about it depending on the prior syllable seems possibly true but doesn't seem like a "complete/always" answer. For example whispered speech can be VERY fast (i often rap along to songs in a whisper to myself) and when all the syllables are so short or the sounds are the beginning of a word I think these other sources of air release (what you called onset time and duration I think) are the differentiating factor primarily.
Hlw is this or is it not related to the 'typical' linguistic situations in which we tend to use whispery speech, e.g. it's late at night, you're in a library, in a church, or other holy place, you're gossiping, you're talking to your classmate while the teacher is talking, etc. For some reason I also tend to do this in restrooms if I need to speak.
thanks for this. it's created a new angle for me on a totally unrelated (or is it??!!) area of research, particularly relating to sensory sensitivities. it started with mention of synaesthesia and then misophonia... and got more and more interesting. ASMR? I could not care less. until now. hun, get the scuba gear, we're going on a deep dive
Cool video! For another data point, I'm autistic and experience ASMR, musical frisson, and synesthesia. I also can't listen to most whispered ASMR because the mouth sounds trigger the hell out of my misophonia. Very interesting sensation though. Also, I'm not yet sure what the research says, but anecdotally, stereo triggers get a stronger response from me. I might barely react to a voice whispering into a high quality studio mic, but will get serious zaps from someone whispering into one of my ears through even a cheap handheld recorder. My guess is the perceived proximity is enhanced by the spatial aspect. I wonder if it's been tested yet.
I have been listening to ASMR for nearly 15 years at this point. Its been interesting to see the community grow and change. There are a lot of subgenres now from simple whispering videos to no talking to roleplays with cinamtography and set design so good they could be mistaken for movie clips. The idea of ASMR being a wierd sex thing has lessened as it become more popular. Its a perception most ASMR listerners try to distance themselves from but there are some who view it that way and there are videos even here on youtube that cater to those people. Sexual ASMR is generally seen as seperate from the broader community though. It was so interesting to learn about some of the science behind this. I expereince synesthesia. When I took the big 5 personality test I think I had a moderate score in openess but I do remember scoring high in neurotisim. I like to listen to ASMR in Japanese and Korean but only if there are english subtitles. I dont speak either languange. I perfer soft spoken ASMR over whispering which an sometimes gives me that agitated feeling described in the video.
When I first encountered the term ASMR, it was in a sexual context (someone was going to have to go there at some point), so when it began to gain popularity outside that context, it was confusing. The point is that despite the obvious negative connotations, there is a validity to the experience, both positive and negative, which is experienced individually in different ways, and I would argue that it can be used as a form of mindfulness even though I've never really liked ASMR despite having positive experiences with some forms of mindfulness with regards to some of the issues I experience with my autism. The conclusion is that sexual or not, it shouldn't be dismissed so easily, especially for the reasons so well laid out in the video itself.
3:17 I most definitely get musical frisson, particularly listening to a performance of George Gershwin’s Rhapsody in Blue. I will be tingling all over, practically in tears, feeling a thrill throughout my body. And there are two performances in particular that do this for me. There is one performance that has a reproducing Steinway piano playing just the main solo part of a piano roll that Gershwin himself cut, accompanied by an orchestra. And there is a UA-cam video where somebody animated notes to the sounds from the first ever recording of Rhapsody in Blue, so there is a synesthesia there.
I experience musical frisson, sometimes to the point of tears. Aside from chewing gum, and crunchy food, my brain absolutely melts at ASMR in German or Russian, but not in English at all.
I have musical frisson. I also sometime experience all the various responses that ASMR refers to, but NOT from language stimuli, not from any of the sound effects created by ASMR folks, and usually the trigger is not auditory at all. More often it's from varying temperatures and/or textures on my skin or from a trance-like state where I imagine colors in my body or imagine those textures against my body.
I found your ASMR version first and wrote how I missed your regular voice. Funnily enough, by psychometrics I SHOULD be exactly the kind of person to experience and enjoy ASMR, but I find it to be too reminiscent of an intimate lover whispering in my ear and therefore am uneasy with the sensation. It just feels like I've jumped over several normal boundaries of social etiquette with a stranger. And hey, while I'm not opposed to jumping into bed with strangers whispering into my ear (!!), with strangers online, it DOES feel a tiny bit too transgressive for me. I suspect a part of the appeal of ASMR for some is this sensation of transgressive intimacy - no matter how much they protest and deny (repeatedly) that its not a sexual thing. It's certainly VERY sensual and it is only q few steps from head "tingling" to other kinds of tingles. Just my two cents. Very subjective.
About this of how we understand whispered speech could you make a video about that about TONAL languages specifically? I remember Stuart Jay Raj saying about tonal languages, when I started learning my first tonal language, Vietnamese, that pitch is not tone and just a byproduct of tones, and giving the obvious yet surprising example, even for some natives, and even for some native TEACHERS, since we are not often told that, that this is so much so that you can WHISPER in tonal languages and be understood, which would not be possible if tones were pitch. And in fact you can whisper and still be perfectly understood in a 6 (some claim 9) tone language like Vietnamese, if you do the right things (that you should be doing even when voiced) with your throat.
I get why you retired that other video, however, I’m a bit sad that I missed out on it. I have a profound dislike of ASMR videos, but I would have gladly watched languagejones doing one ;-)
I do think this is interesting but personally, as someone who is hard of hearing and neurodivergent I can't stand ASMR (like literally makes me want to itch my skin and toss my hearing aids across the room). Whispering for the most part, as a noise drives me nuts and I can barely understand what is even being said. I do appreciate narrators who have slow, calm voices (like a lot of horror and true crime podcasts) but ASMR just doesn't do it for me. I do get Musical frisson though and enjoy vocal stimming/noise. I am curious to listen to ASMR in different languages and see if I have the same response.
I don’t listen to ASMR much but it’s interesting you mention it being more likely to happen if you understand the speech. I’ve purposefully sought out asmr when I’ve been unable to sleep and look for the ones in languages I don’t understand at all. Sometimes when I can understand what the person is saying it feels icky and cringe to me having someone whisper in my ear, also it’s kind of distracting if part of your mind is actually following along with what they’re saying. Whereas when done in a language I don’t speak by not understanding anything I guess it’s makes me only able to focus on the phonetic qualities of the sounds rather than any semantics. Some languages I’ve found are more “tingly” (I absolutely hate that word) than others too, but perhaps that’s just down to the individual doing it and their own idiolectic peculiarities. German, Russian and Arabic most notably. Maybe that’s because their consonants sounds more “harsh” and almost staccato like than English (I’m bad at linguistic jargon idk how to explain it, but I hope you get it)
I occasionally experience what I assume is ASMR. Typically at the doctors when they check my lymph nodes, or my skin at the dermatologist or sometimes during grooming like a haircut or ear cleaning if they aren't yanking on my ears. I rarely get ASMR from videos but I like watching some of them anyway. Really the only things I enjoy are someone reading a story or talking about their day in a low voice at a slow pace and maybe light tapping of 3dio. That's what pretty much all ASMR content was 15 years ago but since then its transformed into something bizarre and horrifying. So much of it is some combination of gross, creepy, disturbing, overtly sexual or just sounds like nails on a chalkboard to me. I've been jumpscared by a youtube short labeled as ASMR of someone disemboweling a rubber figurine, loaded with exaggerated snipping and squishing noises, and sped up to a pace that could keep even the most brain-rotted Ipad kid entertained. I'm not sure exactly when but at some point the ASMR community took a hard left turn into some strange territory.
I'm not sure, if that's a request, but just in case: check out Goodnight Moon. She does this type of vids from time to time. I have other suggestions, so let me know, if you'd like some more
@@JeffSilverblum_ Atlas ASMR is a cool guy, Phoenician Sailor is the type at times. I'm also quite fond of the Secret Scholar, but you should go for her if you're into Latin specifically.
Make the video on voicing! My lingustics professor mentioned it in uni like 1 time and I always wanted to learn more. Also I'm literally an EFL teacher now and want to make sure I'm explaining it to my students properly :)
(that's a made up statistic, but I suspect it's somewhere in the top 25 at least) [EDIT] I looked it up and according to their yearly statistics it doesn't even show up at all for 2024. Sorry for the misinformation!
sibling fuckery is probably higher and that doesn't mean say hi to my brother is a sex thing. humans will sexualize anything, that doesn't mean it's inherently sexual
@ good point. also a parent who remarries, teachers, bosses, and friends who have their own romantic partner, are all perfectly common things to have but if "is often searched on the 'Hub" is the metric we're using we would have to add them to the list as well
Hate ASMR, but I personally love the sound of the vacuum cleaner. Because if I’m just hearing it, it means that (finally) somebody besides me is vacuum cleaning!😊 All this talk about whispering made me think that it would be interesting to listen to the Cheyenne language being whispered! I am studying it right now, and it is super cool, with a lot of whispered syllables - at the end of every word and often also in the middle of their really long words. So how would that work if you are whispering, or doing ASMR?!
I don't get the 'moist' thing. No one seemed to have a problem with it when I was young, and then suddenly it seemed like everyone hates it. It's desirable for a cake, for example, to be moist; and people are saying moist is gross. But cake is great! Unless it's not moist. Bah.
3:20 No synesthesia here but I’ll occasionally get frisson. Been watching/listening to ASMR for a decade now and I’d say that, for me, it’s similar but different.
You totally skipped over something I find pretty important for ASMR, which is having good 3D audio with sound sources moving around in space. Without that the video can still be relaxing and help me sleep, but I almost never get the actual tingling sensation. I always thought it was somehow related to the difficulty of processing the sounds, since for vocal ASMR I usually get a stronger effect from people who have strong accents and are hard to understand. Also, I don't have synesthesia but I do have the thing where looking at bright lights makes me sneeze. As I understand it that's basically crosstalk between the optic nerve and the olfactory nerve, so I wonder if it's related.
I think your videos are too short! It happens to me with most of your videos, that when it's over I go "it's over already? But I wanna know more! :(" You can expand more on the subject if you want, your video is of a podcast kind anyways so it's not like I watch it while doing nothing else anyways. I have to stop what I'm doing and find another video....😅 The topics you talk about always interest me and I would love to go deeper down the rabbit hole sometimes
I wish I had the synesthesia that lets me see music as colors like my friend describes hers. Instead, the taste of green makes me gag and the smell of burning crumbs makes me see foggy smoke 🙃😅
I don't experience ASMR (perhaps because that illusion of it being for/to me never hits?). I'm definitely somewhere in the 'this does nothing for me and sometimes is even kinda gross-sounding' camp. I do experience musical frisson. I have aphantasia, ADHD, mild misophonia (mild is probably the wrong word; I have few triggers), some forms of synesthesia, and probably ASD though that has never officially been diagnosed.
Came back from McCoy Tiyner and I get it, I mean I get what some people can be getting from it. I came to know ASMR by happenstance, after I lost an eye (just the vision, the eyeball is still there) I started to "watch" less and "listen" more as I used to have videos and stuff running while working (handwork that is) So some times while "watching" video-tutorials from some random god-willing YT creators (all the while the video would be prolly on another tab.) I noticed, again, just sometimes something... Then again... watching that freaking famous painter Bob Ross was a relaxing thing right? like the sounds of whales and all that stuff that we were used to see ppl in the movies doing to go to sleep. Turns out that if you forget about that tab, at some point could come queued in the list an ASMR video; as an intentional ASMR video... not the whales, Bob Ross, or any other Morgan Freemany calm voice Wich imho must be related a l bit Anyhow, TLDR the point I was trying to reach is that ASMR functions, for me, as long as it's recorded appropiately. and I use headphones. The 3Dness of it all is the most important part of it. Once you get the technical requirements fullfilled, I could go on curiosities like why the flock do I like fricative and alveolar type of sounds. Or the fact that some days I would prefer languages I don't understand over the ones I do, and other days I prefer someone rambling about something in a lnaguage I get; or why do I usually prefer feminine voices. So far this has been seen as a, at the very least, weirdo thing to do so no much conversation subject to bring up; akin to talking crypto, veganism... just pick anything that can get ppl annoyed in mass against its "pundits" or supposed ones. McCoy is great btw, thank you for tha ^^ Salu2
My TEFL teacher tried to tell us the difference between voiced and unvoiced consonants. When she finished I asked if I could give my explanation. Yes I could. You can make a melody with voiced consonants. With unvoiced consonants, you can't. She has probably used my (additional) explanation ever since.
So, you're telling me there are people who don't get triggered by loud repeated noises like chewing and sniffing, while some people are downright incapable of getting chills from music? I envy the former and pity the latter then.
Good info. I've only ever experienced musical frisson but my mother had misophonia and watch out if you smacked while you ate...whack, right upside the head! I do not experience that nor do I react to ASMR content
I have additional questions... and perhaps some answers. Did your research lead you to VGP? _Voluntarily-Generated Pilo-erection_ is another phenomenon that has been studied. It is what it sounds like, the ability to create ASMR-like sensations and goosebumps from thought alone, which has been part, albeit rare, of the umbrella of ASMR (I think I've seen it mentioned at ASMR University and in videos by ASMRtists on the subject). The formal paper I read (I think it was Northeastern University) did not link VGP to ASMR, but this may have been before ASMR became a well known phenomenon. Incidentally, I experience VGP in addition to ASMR and Frisson. I also had misophonia with nails on a chalkboard, but one day I chose not let it bother me and now it doesn't. I'm curious to know more about the physiological effects regarding heart rate and neural effects. I started listening to ASMR in 2017 after discovering it in 2016. In 2019, I experienced a prolonged cardiac arrest (VTac and VFib) for 40 minutes, receiving LUCAS CPR for all but a couple minutes. I woke up with amnesia and some vascular, GI, and lung complications. I was diagnosed with Hypoxic Ischemic Encephalopathy, but other than some permanent retrograde amnesia, some apparently very mild short term memory issues and some very mild aphasia, I'm OK. This is compared to the nurses telling my mom she'd have to make a difficult decision about pulling the plug due to my long downtime. What I wonder is if ASMR trained my body and brain to operate with lower heart rate and bloodflow and/or if that affected my Brain/Cognitive Reserve (resistance to brain damage), and if so could this be used therapeutically or prophylactically. I have some thoughts on ASMR. I suspect it is primarily a reaction to intimacy. Most ASMR auditory and visual stimuli are recreations of activity in close proximity to the head. I hypothesize that this is why good audio and soft sounds, even at distance, seem to mimic closeness. A lot of people conflate intimacy with sex, and while sex is often intimate, it need not be. While I agree that ASMR is not a sex thing, ASMR can, like most other forms of intimacy, prime someone for moving toward such activity. So, ASMR is no more sexual than getting a haircut, which based on my experience as a human is low but never zero. Would any of this information add to the discussion of linguistics in ASMR?
I certainly get musical frisson with certain songs, so I quickly Googled and started listening to McCoy Tyner; LOL - I had to stop the video after a few seconds because of the [to my ears] raucous discordant cacophony. ETA: I also side-tracked to watch/listen to an ASMR short; it did absolutely nothing for me other than to make me go WFT?
I'd never heard of misophonia, but I do experience it--just very intermittently. I suffer from bipolar disorder, and this is my 'canary in the coal mine' telling me I'm entering a manic phase. I've learned that when hearing someone chew or smack their lips triggers a simmering furious rage in me, it's time to go hide in a closet for a while and absolutely not do any online shopping, because if I start browsing Amazon while in that mode I willl substantially increase Jeff Bezos' wealth level.
Sad that I missed my chance to see a full LanguageJones ASMR video. Not everyone can win 😔
As an autistic person with synesthesia and misophonia, asmr is one of the only things that brings me out of a meltdown. It seems to flow along the same neural pathways and calms my nervous system. (And is a much healthier alternative to hitting your head!) HOWEVER, there are a lot of terrible "asmr" channels that include triggers which are abrasive and grate on my nervous system instead of relaxing it.
The good channels are few and far between and I hoard them like treasures.
I commented elsewhere here on something closely related. And actually what you're saying here is in line very much with (part of) my line of thinking. And yes much better than head hitting.
Yes.
However, I would hesitate to call those channels "terrible". Misophonia varies a lot from person to person, as does what good ASMR is.
OMG samesies.
I haven't found anything like that which isn't irritating.
The ASMR video doesn't seem accessible. It seems it's set to private instead of unlisted.
Read the description again he retired it lol
Can you publish the ASMR video in your website or Odysee or something? I am really curious.
As am I. I'm sorry it was killing your channel, but the algorithm linked me this video after you'd already retired the ASMR thing and I'm always curious.
Perhaps another platform?
Thank you for making a version explaining asmr without using asmr! I’m interested in asmr as a concept but actually listening to asmr turns me into a feral animal, extremely bad sensory experience
@123here - I am exactly the same. The whispering gives me the worst possible chills and makes me want to toss my airpods out the window. I can't wait for the whole concept to die so I can finally start using autoplay UA-cam to fall asleep again. 4:10 Couldn't better explain what the clicking and whispering and smacking and heavy breathing makes me feel.
ASMR *really* bothers me but i'm happy to now understand more about it.
My wife and I made it 30 seconds into the ASMR *in ASMR* video before we had to stop. It’s very much not for me 😂
@@languagejones don't think I managed more than 20 seconds. XD
@@languagejones Hm… ASMR dance 💃🕺
Most ASMR content gives me the reaction you talked about around the 4:05 mark, rage inducing, but also I can understand why people call it "tingly". Viscerally not a fan, I wonder if that says anything about me?
You're not alone, friend! I get a VERY very strong viscerally negative reaction to the whispering, clicking and breathing.
To me ASMR was a life changer. I have always experience it, especially as a child. I couldn’t explain as an adult the experience of feeling immediately drowsy whenever some people spoke in a certain way-until ASMR became a thing. To me, only spoken voice does the trick (any other triggers might be welcomed, but human voice is crucial). Sometimes I purposedly look for ASMR in languages I don’t speak, it helps focus more on the sound of the voice and the words. The only downside of the ASMR community’ss growth is that tingle immunity does exist. I need to take periodical breaks to experience tingles full power
ASMR makes me incredibly uncomfortable. I'm glad I'm not the only one that feels like that.
I want the English voicing perception video, especially if it talks about whispered speech in depth
2:34 I hope I'm not going to regret asking this, but... what is "liver king"?
The liver king is a bodybuilding influencer who consumes raw meat and raw offal (like liver) claiming they are superfoods; he is clearly on steroids.
@@DGTTAlpha Ah, not as bad as it could've been, then. (You can probably tell I've been on the Internet too long. 🤣) Thank you! ♥
@@Ice_Karma He’s disgusting enough, but I see what you mean.
7:06 please make that video!
Yes, definitely! I've been trying to wrap my head around it for quite some time! 😻😻
I second that motion... with a vengeance!! ;D
I've come to like foreign or unintelligible speech a bit more in context of ASMR, though. It seems reasonable, that the sensation of being cared after correlates with understanding, so now I'm curious to know, how my case can be explained
Thanks for letting me in on this. I virtually had no clue anything of the sort of thing I was experiencing was real... Plus saying Dzień dobry as "Cień topry" is hilarious.
Tyner : Tender Moments ++
This is going into heavy rotation right now. Thanks man!
HEY!!!!! ASMR isn't an acronym; it's an initialism. Jeez 😂❤
how i ass-mer a initialism
What if I decide to pronounce it 'azumur', then does it become one?
@@thought2007 if you say it right
@@thought2007 meh, better than "assmer"
I clicked and listened to the whole thing, out of curiosity. Am amazed to learn this is 'a thing'! But, as mother used to say, "it takes all kinds to make the world go round"... just hope I don't start getting videos with the features you were describing.
Only you, Mr language jones. I love your videos and would listen to almost anything you put up, but this one has amazed me!
Autistic and both of those are a regular discussion. There's a subtle difference between misophonia, CAPD and tactile defensiveness but they can be related, esp for someone with one or more of these. Obviously, for someone who is texture sensitive, mental sounds are louder and like misophonia. It's kind of like chalkboard scratch and chewing noises but for almost *every* thing touched or even seen touched. It's like all our mirror neurons get tuned into very specific things. (I promise they're not missing). I have to avert gaze, cover ears when I see someone even touch (bad material here) or even visible and not touched. It's a regular source of bewilderment how others differ in their tolerance of things. Thank you for covering this topic. (btw, you seem to never have the bad material near so one reason I like your channel).
little disappointed you didn't mention binaural audio as an enhancer- many people cannot actually experience the proper ASMR sensation if they are listening to someone whisper into a random mono microphone but can immediately understand when they hear properly done binaural ASMR, where the microphone is stereo, and each mic in the set is spaced approximately to represent ears on a head, and the minuscule difference of the speeds at which the sound makes it to each "ear" microphone enhances the effect substantially. i know at least personally, i'm entirely unable to get the meridian response without such a setup, people whispering into normal mono mics doesn't work at all. fun fact, these fancy binaural mics are also used for nature recording!
I have been waiting for this video foreverrrr
I've noticed that, as time passes, engagement seems to become more and more important for the algorithm.
Myself, I just make my UA-cam subscription list the home page for my browser, so the algorithm doesn't matter for catching anything from channels I subscribe to, but I'm surely for down in the minority with that. Plus me not missing anything doesn't help new discovery.
I think an easy way to imagine/understand one possible asmr response is to think about the calm/relaxed/fuzzy feeling you probably get when someone plays with your hair for a while. You get that warm, fuzzy, relaxed, drowsy feeling. That’s the main feeling I get from asmr, but it’s uncommon for me to finally get that feeling.
for people with misophonia i do encourage you to seek out visual triggers like moving lights or closeup touch (or even those spidery head massager things for tactile-based asmr). Maybe it will help with understanding. I like visual triggers more anyway.
Thank you so much for this video on the linguistics of it!
omg YES so excited for the companion video in ASMR. Let's do this!
Languages (there are other factors in play, of course) that make this effect for me are, interestingly enough, RP English, French and Japanese
I get Frisson from music. Super intense for me too. Went to a Rush concert with my wife and it took my breath away. I was gasping for air and she asked me if I was ok. I managed to choke out the statement, “I’m ok. It’s really good” then had to sit down and let it wash over me. It’s just super intense pleasure from nowhere. I consider it a great gift and I blessing.
It’s a shame there’s so much hate for it you had to take down the ASMR version! Maybe time for a second channel for algorithm-killers like that
5:44 Speak for yourself! I love the sound of an airplane engine. I can't sleep unless I have some sort of brown noise.
So this video mostly talks about audio triggers of ASMR (naturally), but for those of you with misonphobia or who just hate the awkwardness of the audio triggers. ASMR can also be triggered via visual and physical cues. My favorite cues are the visual ones. I also experience it when someone very very lightly scratches my back similar to how my mom put me to bed as a child. There’s also a game I played as a kid where someone pretends to crack an egg on my head which triggers the response. I’ve also felt ASMR rarely when all the right circumstances align to put me in a very happy/memorable state from childhood usually around the holidays under a comfy blanket surround by enjoyable sounds, sights and smells.
difference between P and B unvoiced/whispered to me and d,g vs. t,k are as follows:
P uses slightly different lips shaped and puh is a short burst of air and then cut off (a glottal stop?) where "buh" is "softer" in terms of the release of air, rather than "held back and then released as a stronger puff" and not abruptly cut off at the tail end.
d,g vs. t,k are similar but with less lip/tongue shape differentiation, seems to be primarily the air stoppage where d,g are the "soft/elongated" release of air and t,k are the stronger and abrupt versions.
Neat.
What you said about it depending on the prior syllable seems possibly true but doesn't seem like a "complete/always" answer. For example whispered speech can be VERY fast (i often rap along to songs in a whisper to myself) and when all the syllables are so short or the sounds are the beginning of a word I think these other sources of air release (what you called onset time and duration I think) are the differentiating factor primarily.
Normally I instantly set "not interested" on anything with ASMR in the title... even the parodies annoy me. I will give you a chance here.
Hlw is this or is it not related to the 'typical' linguistic situations in which we tend to use whispery speech, e.g. it's late at night, you're in a library, in a church, or other holy place, you're gossiping, you're talking to your classmate while the teacher is talking, etc. For some reason I also tend to do this in restrooms if I need to speak.
thanks for this. it's created a new angle for me on a totally unrelated (or is it??!!) area of research, particularly relating to sensory sensitivities. it started with mention of synaesthesia and then misophonia... and got more and more interesting. ASMR? I could not care less. until now.
hun, get the scuba gear, we're going on a deep dive
I don't really like the sound of a vacuum cleaner, but I would take it over somebody whispering any day.
Cool video! For another data point, I'm autistic and experience ASMR, musical frisson, and synesthesia. I also can't listen to most whispered ASMR because the mouth sounds trigger the hell out of my misophonia. Very interesting sensation though. Also, I'm not yet sure what the research says, but anecdotally, stereo triggers get a stronger response from me. I might barely react to a voice whispering into a high quality studio mic, but will get serious zaps from someone whispering into one of my ears through even a cheap handheld recorder. My guess is the perceived proximity is enhanced by the spatial aspect. I wonder if it's been tested yet.
I have been listening to ASMR for nearly 15 years at this point. Its been interesting to see the community grow and change. There are a lot of subgenres now from simple whispering videos to no talking to roleplays with cinamtography and set design so good they could be mistaken for movie clips. The idea of ASMR being a wierd sex thing has lessened as it become more popular. Its a perception most ASMR listerners try to distance themselves from but there are some who view it that way and there are videos even here on youtube that cater to those people. Sexual ASMR is generally seen as seperate from the broader community though. It was so interesting to learn about some of the science behind this. I expereince synesthesia. When I took the big 5 personality test I think I had a moderate score in openess but I do remember scoring high in neurotisim. I like to listen to ASMR in Japanese and Korean but only if there are english subtitles. I dont speak either languange. I perfer soft spoken ASMR over whispering which an sometimes gives me that agitated feeling described in the video.
10:31: What's that Polish bit? "Sin dobre"? "Szyn dobre"?
When I first encountered the term ASMR, it was in a sexual context (someone was going to have to go there at some point), so when it began to gain popularity outside that context, it was confusing. The point is that despite the obvious negative connotations, there is a validity to the experience, both positive and negative, which is experienced individually in different ways, and I would argue that it can be used as a form of mindfulness even though I've never really liked ASMR despite having positive experiences with some forms of mindfulness with regards to some of the issues I experience with my autism. The conclusion is that sexual or not, it shouldn't be dismissed so easily, especially for the reasons so well laid out in the video itself.
7:25 Shannon entropy alluded to!
3:17 I most definitely get musical frisson, particularly listening to a performance of George Gershwin’s Rhapsody in Blue. I will be tingling all over, practically in tears, feeling a thrill throughout my body. And there are two performances in particular that do this for me. There is one performance that has a reproducing Steinway piano playing just the main solo part of a piano roll that Gershwin himself cut, accompanied by an orchestra. And there is a UA-cam video where somebody animated notes to the sounds from the first ever recording of Rhapsody in Blue, so there is a synesthesia there.
I experience musical frisson, sometimes to the point of tears. Aside
from chewing gum, and crunchy food, my brain absolutely melts at ASMR in German or Russian, but not in English at all.
This is not the kind of content I was expecting from this channel
What a nice surprise 🎉
Learned about frisson, and a new song, and that neither are my thing. Learning! Thanks for this breakdown.
I have musical frisson. I also sometime experience all the various responses that ASMR refers to, but NOT from language stimuli, not from any of the sound effects created by ASMR folks, and usually the trigger is not auditory at all. More often it's from varying temperatures and/or textures on my skin or from a trance-like state where I imagine colors in my body or imagine those textures against my body.
I found your ASMR version first and wrote how I missed your regular voice. Funnily enough, by psychometrics I SHOULD be exactly the kind of person to experience and enjoy ASMR, but I find it to be too reminiscent of an intimate lover whispering in my ear and therefore am uneasy with the sensation. It just feels like I've jumped over several normal boundaries of social etiquette with a stranger.
And hey, while I'm not opposed to jumping into bed with strangers whispering into my ear (!!), with strangers online, it DOES feel a tiny bit too transgressive for me.
I suspect a part of the appeal of ASMR for some is this sensation of transgressive intimacy - no matter how much they protest and deny (repeatedly) that its not a sexual thing. It's certainly VERY sensual and it is only q few steps from head "tingling" to other kinds of tingles.
Just my two cents. Very subjective.
This topic was not on my bingo card for this week, but very interesting! Thanks!
About this of how we understand whispered speech could you make a video about that about TONAL languages specifically? I remember Stuart Jay Raj saying about tonal languages, when I started learning my first tonal language, Vietnamese, that pitch is not tone and just a byproduct of tones, and giving the obvious yet surprising example, even for some natives, and even for some native TEACHERS, since we are not often told that, that this is so much so that you can WHISPER in tonal languages and be understood, which would not be possible if tones were pitch. And in fact you can whisper and still be perfectly understood in a 6 (some claim 9) tone language like Vietnamese, if you do the right things (that you should be doing even when voiced) with your throat.
I get why you retired that other video, however, I’m a bit sad that I missed out on it. I have a profound dislike of ASMR videos, but I would have gladly watched languagejones doing one ;-)
I do think this is interesting but personally, as someone who is hard of hearing and neurodivergent I can't stand ASMR (like literally makes me want to itch my skin and toss my hearing aids across the room). Whispering for the most part, as a noise drives me nuts and I can barely understand what is even being said. I do appreciate narrators who have slow, calm voices (like a lot of horror and true crime podcasts) but ASMR just doesn't do it for me. I do get Musical frisson though and enjoy vocal stimming/noise. I am curious to listen to ASMR in different languages and see if I have the same response.
I don’t listen to ASMR much but it’s interesting you mention it being more likely to happen if you understand the speech. I’ve purposefully sought out asmr when I’ve been unable to sleep and look for the ones in languages I don’t understand at all.
Sometimes when I can understand what the person is saying it feels icky and cringe to me having someone whisper in my ear, also it’s kind of distracting if part of your mind is actually following along with what they’re saying.
Whereas when done in a language I don’t speak by not understanding anything I guess it’s makes me only able to focus on the phonetic qualities of the sounds rather than any semantics.
Some languages I’ve found are more “tingly” (I absolutely hate that word) than others too, but perhaps that’s just down to the individual doing it and their own idiolectic peculiarities. German, Russian and Arabic most notably.
Maybe that’s because their consonants sounds more “harsh” and almost staccato like than English (I’m bad at linguistic jargon idk how to explain it, but I hope you get it)
I love your explanation of misophonia, Dr. J - lines up perfectly with my experience.
I occasionally experience what I assume is ASMR. Typically at the doctors when they check my lymph nodes, or my skin at the dermatologist or sometimes during grooming like a haircut or ear cleaning if they aren't yanking on my ears. I rarely get ASMR from videos but I like watching some of them anyway. Really the only things I enjoy are someone reading a story or talking about their day in a low voice at a slow pace and maybe light tapping of 3dio. That's what pretty much all ASMR content was 15 years ago but since then its transformed into something bizarre and horrifying. So much of it is some combination of gross, creepy, disturbing, overtly sexual or just sounds like nails on a chalkboard to me. I've been jumpscared by a youtube short labeled as ASMR of someone disemboweling a rubber figurine, loaded with exaggerated snipping and squishing noises, and sped up to a pace that could keep even the most brain-rotted Ipad kid entertained. I'm not sure exactly when but at some point the ASMR community took a hard left turn into some strange territory.
I'm not sure, if that's a request, but just in case: check out Goodnight Moon. She does this type of vids from time to time. I have other suggestions, so let me know, if you'd like some more
@@the_multus Thanks for the recommendation, I'm actually already subscribed to her channel
@@JeffSilverblum_ Atlas ASMR is a cool guy, Phoenician Sailor is the type at times. I'm also quite fond of the Secret Scholar, but you should go for her if you're into Latin specifically.
Make the video on voicing! My lingustics professor mentioned it in uni like 1 time and I always wanted to learn more. Also I'm literally an EFL teacher now and want to make sure I'm explaining it to my students properly :)
"guys it's NOT a sex thing, it's a total coincidence that it's the top 10th most searched category on the 'Hub"
(that's a made up statistic, but I suspect it's somewhere in the top 25 at least)
[EDIT] I looked it up and according to their yearly statistics it doesn't even show up at all for 2024. Sorry for the misinformation!
sibling fuckery is probably higher and that doesn't mean say hi to my brother is a sex thing. humans will sexualize anything, that doesn't mean it's inherently sexual
Feet aren't a sex thing either but you know...
It is for some))
@ good point.
also a parent who remarries, teachers, bosses, and friends who have their own romantic partner, are all perfectly common things to have but if "is often searched on the 'Hub" is the metric we're using we would have to add them to the list as well
Whispering (and ASMR) triggers sensory sensitivity for me. This explains a bit of that.
I liked your other ASMR video. Very sad it's not available anymore.
my wife: "disampiguation is when you filter the crunchies out of bacon fat"
Disampiguation is when we call the pig we eat pork in order not to deal with the fact that we’re eating a pig’s dead body.
Hate ASMR, but I personally love the sound of the vacuum cleaner. Because if I’m just hearing it, it means that (finally) somebody besides me is vacuum cleaning!😊
All this talk about whispering made me think that it would be interesting to listen to the Cheyenne language being whispered! I am studying it right now, and it is super cool, with a lot of whispered syllables - at the end of every word and often also in the middle of their really long words. So how would that work if you are whispering, or doing ASMR?!
I don't get the 'moist' thing. No one seemed to have a problem with it when I was young, and then suddenly it seemed like everyone hates it. It's desirable for a cake, for example, to be moist; and people are saying moist is gross. But cake is great! Unless it's not moist. Bah.
I think it’s been sexualised.
3:20 No synesthesia here but I’ll occasionally get frisson. Been watching/listening to ASMR for a decade now and I’d say that, for me, it’s similar but different.
Please do a video on voice onset time! I'd love to hear you discus pre-voicing in General American versus Southern/AAVE.
I am going to need that voiced and unvoiced video
Idea! I'm redoing all my dog training videos in ASMR!
Sometimes kiddush lunch do that..
You totally skipped over something I find pretty important for ASMR, which is having good 3D audio with sound sources moving around in space. Without that the video can still be relaxing and help me sleep, but I almost never get the actual tingling sensation. I always thought it was somehow related to the difficulty of processing the sounds, since for vocal ASMR I usually get a stronger effect from people who have strong accents and are hard to understand.
Also, I don't have synesthesia but I do have the thing where looking at bright lights makes me sneeze. As I understand it that's basically crosstalk between the optic nerve and the olfactory nerve, so I wonder if it's related.
Can someone please explain to me what spectral tilt means?
I bet the frisson releases oxytocin, which is also released in cuddling for example.
I experience misophonia and ASMR seems a smidge too close for comfort. Like I’m feeling stressed just watching this, but my curiosity…..
I think your videos are too short! It happens to me with most of your videos, that when it's over I go "it's over already? But I wanna know more! :("
You can expand more on the subject if you want, your video is of a podcast kind anyways so it's not like I watch it while doing nothing else anyways. I have to stop what I'm doing and find another video....😅
The topics you talk about always interest me and I would love to go deeper down the rabbit hole sometimes
I wish I had the synesthesia that lets me see music as colors like my friend describes hers.
Instead, the taste of green makes me gag and the smell of burning crumbs makes me see foggy smoke 🙃😅
I don't experience ASMR (perhaps because that illusion of it being for/to me never hits?). I'm definitely somewhere in the 'this does nothing for me and sometimes is even kinda gross-sounding' camp.
I do experience musical frisson.
I have aphantasia, ADHD, mild misophonia (mild is probably the wrong word; I have few triggers), some forms of synesthesia, and probably ASD though that has never officially been diagnosed.
Please add this comment to the small pile of requests for the voicing video. Thanks!
I have extreme misophonia for people whispering. Fortunately, I have the ability to induce ASMR in myself whenever I want. :)
Thanks! Now I understand why I don't have a clue about ASMR.
Why is the ASMR version private alll of a sudden?
Yes, love what you're doing, keep it up
I like how the word “meridian” is used as a substitute for orgasm in ASMR, because it supposedly means “peak” or “highest point” 🤔🤔
I was totally convinced ASMR was somehow related to BDSM.
Came back from McCoy Tiyner and I get it, I mean I get what some people can be getting from it. I came to know ASMR by happenstance, after I lost an eye (just the vision, the eyeball is still there) I started to "watch" less and "listen" more as I used to have videos and stuff running while working (handwork that is)
So some times while "watching" video-tutorials from some random god-willing YT creators (all the while the video would be prolly on another tab.) I noticed, again, just sometimes something...
Then again... watching that freaking famous painter Bob Ross was a relaxing thing right? like the sounds of whales and all that stuff that we were used to see ppl in the movies doing to go to sleep. Turns out that if you forget about that tab, at some point could come queued in the list an ASMR video; as an intentional ASMR video... not the whales, Bob Ross, or any other Morgan Freemany calm voice Wich imho must be related a l bit
Anyhow, TLDR the point I was trying to reach is that ASMR functions, for me, as long as it's recorded appropiately. and I use headphones. The 3Dness of it all is the most important part of it. Once you get the technical requirements fullfilled, I could go on curiosities like why the flock do I like fricative and alveolar type of sounds. Or the fact that some days I would prefer languages I don't understand over the ones I do, and other days I prefer someone rambling about something in a lnaguage I get; or why do I usually prefer feminine voices.
So far this has been seen as a, at the very least, weirdo thing to do so no much conversation subject to bring up; akin to talking crypto, veganism... just pick anything that can get ppl annoyed in mass against its "pundits" or supposed ones.
McCoy is great btw, thank you for tha ^^
Salu2
My TEFL teacher tried to tell us the difference between voiced and unvoiced consonants.
When she finished I asked if I could give my explanation. Yes I could.
You can make a melody with voiced consonants. With unvoiced consonants, you can't.
She has probably used my (additional) explanation ever since.
me reading this while 'silent humming' music with a series of 'f' and 's' sounds...
Attempted video link, UA-cam shows it as private,
Asynchronous Serious Memory Resonance? Ableist Somatoform Manipulative Resource?
3:49 McCoy Tyner - Tender Moments
Rec: Mode to John (Loud on Good Speakers)
So, you're telling me there are people who don't get triggered by loud repeated noises like chewing and sniffing, while some people are downright incapable of getting chills from music? I envy the former and pity the latter then.
PLEASE PLEASE make a video about whispering
Who is Dave Stricker?
I thought he meant "Stryker" the well-known radio DJ, but his name isn't Dave.
Asmr sets off my fight or flight response, I do not like it.
Wonder why that is.
It's worse than a weird sex thing... it's sensual.
I had a very hard time editing the other video and may take it down later 😂
@@languagejonesnoooooo. It’ll take me forever to get through it. Whispering is very annoying to me.
My favorite thing is ASMR people's furry-like insistence that it totally isn't a sex thing.
It's not. Except for the people for whom it definitely is.
Good info. I've only ever experienced musical frisson but my mother had misophonia and watch out if you smacked while you ate...whack, right upside the head! I do not experience that nor do I react to ASMR content
I experience ASMR and misophonia, but not musical frisson, which is interesting.
I have additional questions... and perhaps some answers.
Did your research lead you to VGP? _Voluntarily-Generated Pilo-erection_ is another phenomenon that has been studied. It is what it sounds like, the ability to create ASMR-like sensations and goosebumps from thought alone, which has been part, albeit rare, of the umbrella of ASMR (I think I've seen it mentioned at ASMR University and in videos by ASMRtists on the subject). The formal paper I read (I think it was Northeastern University) did not link VGP to ASMR, but this may have been before ASMR became a well known phenomenon. Incidentally, I experience VGP in addition to ASMR and Frisson. I also had misophonia with nails on a chalkboard, but one day I chose not let it bother me and now it doesn't.
I'm curious to know more about the physiological effects regarding heart rate and neural effects. I started listening to ASMR in 2017 after discovering it in 2016. In 2019, I experienced a prolonged cardiac arrest (VTac and VFib) for 40 minutes, receiving LUCAS CPR for all but a couple minutes. I woke up with amnesia and some vascular, GI, and lung complications. I was diagnosed with Hypoxic Ischemic Encephalopathy, but other than some permanent retrograde amnesia, some apparently very mild short term memory issues and some very mild aphasia, I'm OK. This is compared to the nurses telling my mom she'd have to make a difficult decision about pulling the plug due to my long downtime. What I wonder is if ASMR trained my body and brain to operate with lower heart rate and bloodflow and/or if that affected my Brain/Cognitive Reserve (resistance to brain damage), and if so could this be used therapeutically or prophylactically.
I have some thoughts on ASMR. I suspect it is primarily a reaction to intimacy. Most ASMR auditory and visual stimuli are recreations of activity in close proximity to the head. I hypothesize that this is why good audio and soft sounds, even at distance, seem to mimic closeness. A lot of people conflate intimacy with sex, and while sex is often intimate, it need not be. While I agree that ASMR is not a sex thing, ASMR can, like most other forms of intimacy, prime someone for moving toward such activity. So, ASMR is no more sexual than getting a haircut, which based on my experience as a human is low but never zero.
Would any of this information add to the discussion of linguistics in ASMR?
I certainly get musical frisson with certain songs, so I quickly Googled and started listening to McCoy Tyner; LOL - I had to stop the video after a few seconds because of the [to my ears] raucous discordant cacophony.
ETA: I also side-tracked to watch/listen to an ASMR short; it did absolutely nothing for me other than to make me go WFT?
English voicing perception video please. Thank you,
Learned about ASMR, learned about Rule 34 (and indirectly the corrollary, Rule 63). Clearly I do not spend enough time on the Internet.
@9:42 there's yer thumbnail right there
I watch it everry night
That feeling that you get when you use one of those head scratchers, is that the same sensation?
If not, then I'm clueless. Team misophonia here.
Mesophonia that’s me. None of the others.
I'd never heard of misophonia, but I do experience it--just very intermittently. I suffer from bipolar disorder, and this is my 'canary in the coal mine' telling me I'm entering a manic phase. I've learned that when hearing someone chew or smack their lips triggers a simmering furious rage in me, it's time to go hide in a closet for a while and absolutely not do any online shopping, because if I start browsing Amazon while in that mode I willl substantially increase Jeff Bezos' wealth level.