This game is fucking incredible. If you think it's too hard you're just not giving it enough time or you're just terrible. This is a masterpiece! I've played it though at least 10 times now. So much fun and such amazing gameplay.
I had a great time with the game. It wasn't without its issues, especially at launch, but I enjoyed it. I would certainly categorize it as a "hard" game, although I don't believe I said it was too hard. Not for me, at least. However, there are plenty of people that would find it a bit too hard. A game like this isn't for everyone.
As an action story game it's great, as a roguelike it lacks run variety. One thing it definitely needs is a hud element to better indicate when something is about to hit you from behind. Roguelikes are my favorite genre and I had to wait about 1-2 years to finally get returnal on pc and I enjoyed it but it wasn't the reinvention of the roguelike I had heard it was.
I agree with you as far as saying that this game is a masterpiece! However I also agree with @zoznerol in saying that this game is a whole not genre, it is an experiment! He mentions this game having retro like elements, which is true, but the big element here that makes this game different from retro is that even in retro games you were given at least 3 lives before you started over again. Returnal gives you 0! This is comparing it to retro game from the 80's and a little bit of the 90's, because after that all games allowed you to save and keep what you earned! You personally enjoyed Returnal and had the time and energy to keep at it! That is great! I am glad you enjoy this game! However talking down to others who did not enjoy the game for reasonable reasons is not a very good way to start the conversation. Just sayin! 🤷♂
Given how I've seen that the game delves a lot into the PC's past, you could have something like a house or bedroom as savepoint. Playing further into the whole memory thing.
Problem? I'm playing it, I'm liking it. 34 hours in, 87 deaths, I'm finally half way through the game. Still playing. Update: In the end, I kept playing because of the compelling gameplay, and how I imagined I was staying connected to Selene's trauma/turmoil. But eventually, after the compulsion of the gameplay died down, I was frustrated that the real meaning and truth of the story was left so vague. I remember thinking to myself that if Returnal 2 was ever released, I'd buy it day 1, no question. But I'd be frustrated if it was still left vague, or went in a direction that just made it too divergent from the original game. So I'll hope for a second game with cautious optimism. What sold me on getting Returnal was the voice acting in the trailer I overheard when at the game store - and the gameplay sucked me in hard. I would like to see a second game, but I feel cautious.
I know it's 2 years old your comment, but... For the real ending you have to play the Tower of Sisyphus DLC. By completing that you get a bunch of new audio logs, tons of story in dialogue & a very cool new mechanic (trying not to spoil but it's all story related in the Tower starting area) that delves deep into Selene, Theia, & Helios.
Death loop is not what pisses me off, what pisses me off is when I took a chunk of my time to get perks, weapons only to lose it all just because of one crash or I have to get off the game. I have a life
It could have been cos the game looks awesome and play great but atleast it could have had check points every level. But to aspect me to sit there for that much time or 1 dead and I have to start from level 1 when I died in 3 level . No no. And I’m a souls game player, so I love a challenge but this is just ridiculous imo 🤷♂️
This is THE shooter. Period. Doom is fun as hell but this is the shit. Why people say difficult, brutal? Death is part of the game and as soon as you realise it and get to know it you'll begin to have even more fun. I was having so much fun with the game that I didn't mind at all if I died. I was almost looking forward to it 😊
It's a great game, but also a niche genre. I think Sony took a big chance making this a $70 title. It's a new ip, and this price may have really hurt its chances of success.
I couldn't realize why even though it's hard for me to progress and i die all the time i still enjoy getting into it and now it clicked it's basically a platformer arcade game that i used to love to play as a kid , just in 3D . If someone wants to get into this solely to progress, level up and follow the story like god of war for example than they wouldn't like it but if someone enjoys running around and killing monsters just for the sake of it , literally like old arcade games than that's it .
In a day and age where every game is trying to be movie or some "deep" piece of art, it feels really great to play a game that's not afraid to feel like a video game.
Your review really was well done. Few reviews I have seen point out how high the entry costs for this game are concerning price and expectations. Luckily, it goes on sale every now and then and the save issue has been addressed. As someone who loves Dark Souls's difficulty (Sl1 runs and Sekiro included), I will give this a try. But what draws me in even more is its tone and storytelling. This is what made the first Dark Souls so special (even among Dark Souls games) and it is something that seems to decide what my favourite games are. If Housemarque are equally daring with the tone, presentation, and storytelling as they are with the game's identity - doing something triple-A-titles normally don't - and the game does seem to be very self-aware at the very least, then this might be something to love - on sale and with the save function finally added.
Thank you kindly! These kinds of games are a rather niche genre. It was a bit odd to give it the 'AAA' treatment. But the presentation is spot on and the game is definitely worth checking out, especially now that they've added some quality of life improvements.
Good review. I came across a link to this randomly on FB. Couldn't find it when I went back to look for it. I was waiting for this to come down in price, but with no save/quit mechanic I might not get at all. Like you i'm older and have 2hrs at best in one sitting on a good day to play. Liked & Subbed. Hope your channel grows well.
@@Zoznerol excited about suspend mode? I don't know why anyone was every against that. No different from putting console into rest mode. Just guarantees no data loss. Every other roguelite has it
Well maybe it’s worth checking out again now that they’ve added the save mechanics? Theres always been a bunch of kinda save mechanics like once you beat a levels boss it lets you skip most of that level. Plus other methods to skip the early levels once you progress far enough. But mostly there’s a full blown save mechanic to suspend the cycle (play other games) and come back later
I finished the game few weeks ago, tower included, it took me about 100 hours. The game is fire but, is anyone at sony aware of the game story? holy shit... I already expected a gameplay clean as fuck, is Housemarque after all. But i didnt expected such psychological thriller. 10/10
Amazing game was hard at first but after you get it it’s pretty easy good story The difficulty is what makes it so replayable once you master one stage The next one gives you a great challenge until basically you can speed run it and feel like a savage
Okay my biggest tip is it’s all about resource management because there is a finite about of enemies. You need get the upgrades without taking too much damage as you’ll end up buying health. Can’t remember specifics on what you should to get now cause it’s been a while I’ve played but focus on that. UA-cam the bosses so you have some idea what to expect if you don’t want go in blind.
This game is HARD… but it’s super satisfying when you progress. I’m having troubles getting the second ending but finally beating it for the first time was insane.
It is the first game in a long time where the learning curve and genuinely feeling my skill progress noticeably compared to any other game, beating it never gave me a greater sense of accomplishment. I am in no way being condescending, but I really do feel bad for players who didn't have fun with or gave up on it.
@@DANRYX I gave up on it a few hours after buying it. I went back a few months later and had an absolute blast playing it. I was still never able to get the third ending but I’m pretty satisfied with how far I got.
@@Lysergic.Black.Death. I beat it 6 times trying to get the 3rd ending and only found out yesterday that you have to collect fragments of a decorative sun, 1 fragment in each biome and then you have to revisit the house.
Just bought the deluxe version for 60 bucks I didn’t watch any review and that was probably stupid but it’s really fun. I’m surprised how much I like it, I don’t normally go for these types of games but it’s really fun. I have like 5 hours I think and I still haven’t beaten the first main boss but I’m getting there lol. Anyways great video
Passed on this game at launch as it’s not the kind of game I’d usually go for. Ended up picking it up this week as I had nothing else going on for games and honestly I’m kind of annoyed I slept on this one at first. One of the best games I’ve played in a while. Everything about this game just works. The visuals, the amazing sound design, the addictive gameplay. Even when I was dying all the time my first runs before it clicked I didn’t even mind because I couldn’t wait to get back into it. Highly recommend. Even if it’s not someone’s usual type of game. If you even kind of think you might like this, go for it. I even thought it was worth 70 dollars and I mocked the game for this price point before release. I also couldn’t believe people were saying this was their game of the year, but honestly now I can see it. Everything about this game just works, and it is a great game. 9 out of 10 for sure.
@@frisby7143 yah I mean I get it. I would much prefer to remain at the 60 dollar price point. Especially when Sony’s competitor is staying there and many third party devs are as well. But we’ve been at 60 dollars for so long now we couldn’t expect it to stay that way forever. And if you put 60, 70, 100, something huge, hours into a game I think that justifies that price anyday. Thing is you don’t know how long you’ll spend with a game until you play it. The only issue I have with it is that sure, games are more expensive than ever to make, with prices approaching half a billion dollars on some games like RDR2. But, gaming is also bigger than ever and all platforms are reporting record profits that only increase year over year. While I think game prices can’t stay stagnant forever, I just also think that if you’re making record profits why are you raising the cost to the consumer. So I am torn on this one in how I feel about it. For a game I really want, and know I will likely enjoy, 70 dollara is what it is and 10 dollars won’t keep me from playing it and is not a large enough barrier. But for games I’m unsure of, which may or may not work out, like Returnal even though Returnal worked out for me, it does make me more hesitant to take a risk on unknown games. And I’m sure people who spent far less time with Returnal or didn’t get through the game feel they got ripped off here. It’s subjective I suppose. So I think this will do more harm than good for Sony. It makes them look greedy so is not a good PR move, and it makes people more hesitant to buy new IP’s. Which considering with GoW and Horizon being crossplay, and Horizon still allowing the free upgrade so will technically be 60 dollars for PS5 players that can just buy the PS4 version and upgrade immediately, they’re going to be relying on a lot of new IP’s. Other than those we just got a few of their major IP games already the last couple years so there’s not much else coming for a while, and it will be new IP’s. They’re setting themselves up for less day one launch sales of games by doing this. And they don’t even need to do it as they are reporting record profits. Just seems like a bad idea. Although most people will pay it. For exclusives they have no choice, and most people get a PS5 for the exclusives. Maybe they’re banking on all the people paying 70 dollars outweighing the loss in sales of people who don’t want to pay it and will wait for sales now.
Totally agree with you, this game needs a fricken save function and i dont give a sh*t NOT ONE SH*T if that doesnt make it a roguelike anymore. They should srsly make a separate game mode for purists and casual gamers
I don't think the omission of a save function changes it being a roguelike. Is a simple quality of life feature for people that might have things to do.
I would never play a game that doesn't respect my time. We ain't no teenagers anymore with tons of free time ! When you disrespect our time and disregard any type of checkpoints then your game is not for the majority of the population who actually have jobs.
I don't think a game is supposed to consider a player's time. It's supposed to provide an experience. Some games are unreasonably long, but that's not the case with this game. And the game does have a checkpoint system of sorts. Once you've beaten the boss of an area, you do not have to play though the whole thing. You can warp to the next area, and once you've beaten most of the bosses, you can beat the game in about 3 hours. While there are some people that may not want to do so, or do not have the time, that is not a fault of the game. What they did with returnal, they did quite well. It may not be for you, but it is still a quality product. And from what I've heard, they did patch in a save and quit function, so the time investment is no longer an issue.
@@Zoznerol well beating a boss takes you several hours of gameplay so having a save function every few hours of a perfect run with zero deaths is not considered a save function. As for me i really would have liked to play the game, but the idea of losing progress and time investment is a nightmare to me ! Thats why i deleted demon souls after a few times of this happening and why i deleted elden rings after a couple of hours as i have no tolerance to repeating something i did countless times ! Life is too short for that.
Absolutely love this review. I’ve only had this game for a week and have t even beat the first boss yet. But it’s addicting as hell. I tried explaining what this game is to my friend but he can’t grasp the idea of it but I’m hoping he buys it and we can go through it together.
The game could use more of an optional guided tutorial to help orient new players. It’s amazing, but so much basic stuff isn’t outright explained. It’s really easy to keep hitting a wall in that first biome.
I don't think it really needed a tutorial in that regard. The gameplay is simple and straightforward. I do think it's a bit of a shock for those that haven't played roguelikes before. But, it isn't very complicated.
It's definitely not for me, its way too hard. I use more time restarting than i think its fun. I have played for a week straight and haven't even beaten the first boss
@Zoznerol it is a quality game for sure. It's just a shame that it isn't for everyone. I mean i may not be the best gamer. But I've also been a gamer for maybe 30 years so im not a noob either. And for me there's an illogical flaw in that you can keep the sword but not artifacts upgrades and weapons. Let us keep those things it would be cooler and make more sense too. Plus actually give something to work forward to achieve. And it will even still be hard! Just more fun. As said ive just used too much time starting over and when everythings up to change, then its just too un forgiving and not fun enough.
@@mynameisnobody3931 I really enjoyed the action. There's a rhythm that you get into when your in the zone that this game does so well. You do make a good point about the sword, but that's how it is with these kinds of games.
@Zoznerol i was too disheartened to get into that zone, because i guess im simply not good enough, combined with that i have a hard time with the illogical things plus its just too unforgiving. I mean if it was real life, i guess i had to keep continuing since i literally would have all eternity lol. But i don't, and it's still just a game...
@@mynameisnobody3931 understandable. Maybe not the illogical things as much. Most video games are filled with illogical nonsense lol. But, I get why you didn't like it.
"I love the game but I can't recommend it" sums up most of the games I've been playing recently: Warframe, Nioh 2 and Returnal. The core gameplay loop in these games is brilliant, but they don't respect the player's time, failing to tutorialize key aspects of the game (Warframe) and piling on silly mechanics just to make the game more souls-like/challenging when in fact it's being counter-productive to the game's pacing (Nioh 2). But I still play them because sadly, there isn't much better to play at the moment (at least in terms of 3rd person action games). I'm glad you mentioned the lack of save functionality in Returnal as a deal breaker. I grinded the game for 6 hours only to fall through the map, and since there is no out-of-bounds death (WTF!? That's the just straight up incompetence) I had no choice but to reset the game, and start from the beginning again. And the fact that they had to patch the max health exploit kinda proves that the design of this game wasn't properly thought through or tested. And since I couldn't refund it, I simply won't recommend or ever buy another Housemarque game again.
The three things I didn't like about the game was that if you're looking for an item, you would have to wait and probably die for it to spawn. That one enemy that jumps on top on you every 10 seconds. Also, if you've been alive for a while than all the emey become OP with three different attacks.
I just recently got a ps5 and this was the first game I got. Look I absolutely love the combat, it's fun and engaging.. but I just put it down yesterday and I don't think I'll be going back anytime soon. I just can't see myself grinding everytime I die for 45 mins before I can go back to where I was so I can atleast try to make some progress. I really think they could have made the progress system a lot better. And look this is the first roguelike/lite that I've ever played (I'm a huge souls fan, also really into final fantasy and arpgs) but even people who love roguelike think the sheer amount of time a single run takes is ridiculous
oh man I like the style of (top-down?) shooters (killzone liberation) but never got to a chance to play one except enter the gungeon, what games are 0:29 - 0:32 ?
the funny thing is, the game would still be thoroughly challenging and engaging WITH save points. which is why i recommend save scumming to anyone with even a hint of interest. it's a fantastic game and worth experiencing but the barrier to entry and accessibility even for hardcore gamers is ridiculous. no save scumming, the game may be 3/10 for the majority of players. with save scumming, 10/10.
@@grahamkelly8662 suspending the cycle, uploading the save file to the cloud, and then downloading it as necessary. rinse, repeat. possible through pretty much the whole game (tho def not the Tower).
@@linedpaper5374 oh, I get ya. However, that doesn’t solve the problem that this game or maybe more a problem the player has, and that’s difficulty. Most say it’s crushingly hard, even for hardcore gamers. I think they should have solved this by having 2 modes 1 single player campaign 2 Rouge like 1 death and game over But then maybe it’s the type of game where you don’t need a story or the ability to save and carry on where you left off, after you die, like most games but I guess I won’t know until I try it and to be honest, I think I will. While I see myself as a pretty decent gamer, I’ve never been brave enough to jump into games like, dark souls , bloodborne etc and never really played a rouge like game. I just know that if I give Returnal a try and absolutely suck , I’ll be ready disappointed and annoyed . Nothing worse then trying a game, really liking it but giving up because it’s way too hard for you. Take mortal kombat, XL for instance, I really enjoyed it, even tho, I’ve not been into beat em ups, since late 90’s. It’s brutally violent and tge fatalities are absolutely batshit out of this world and there’s bloody 100’s of them and I played for over 100 hours , daily, for few weeks BUT I never tried online 1v1 because I’m just flat out ok at mortal Kombat and have no idea how to string together those beautiful long complex combos , that lots of people on UA-cam can do. I’ve even watched a few videos and I’m just lost. Guys saying , this move is plus 14 you can only do minus 1 against this but to get around it, you can change stance, have a quick wank and then counter this by using cancel 4 and I’m like, erm, i think ive had enough of this video. I really want to try Bloodborne but I just know that I’ll suck and just have to give up. If I had someone to help me, I’d jump in, but I don’t. I think you can summon randoms to help but I think I’ll pass. I’ll probably get them mad by my uselessness and I’ll get a load of f bombs over the chat, probably in a tough guy Gangsta voice 😭 happy gaming hey?
This game's story is so hauntingly beautiful, and it needs mentioned. After you beat the game for the first time, the tone so drastically shifts. The furst level takes on new weight as rain turns to water seeping into a car. It's suffocating and claustrophobic and I love it
"If you enjoy video games where it's not all about the blah blah, and you like to play for a real, pure action experience with a lot of skill, AKA Souls-like or old-school games, where there was a challenge and not babysitting you all the way, then this game is for you, and it's FREAKING AWESOME."
Cool game. Died 2 times at the first boss and deleted it. If I had nothing else to play I would try it but I already too many games to play and can't afford to waste time with this one.
It's a very good videogame, but if one of trying to get all trophy, the gold ones one needs a lot of patience because it becomes a bit like a chore, that's why it's nice to do those with a friend to make them less of a pain
I never thought about that. I don't personally care all that much about trophies, so I don't even know how many I got in the game. Most games I just end up getting whatever comes as I play.
Returnal is TENSE you have to be so perfect in all runs and also need a dash of luck. I love and hate this game but the gameplay for me is what brings me back every time. Sometimes it can be so unfair when it comes to large mini bosses spawning in the one area. i sat down with this over Christmas and I am just getting used to the 1st biome. I learn something every time but have died thousands of times lol.
The gameplay hits that sweet spot where you just get in the zone. There are some runs that completely sandbag you, but overall the challenge is just right. A personal favorite of mine.
Cycles are too long only if you want to explore every single room. You can skip pass everything once you feel you have the equipment necessary to beat the boss.
I got the joke. This is how I respond to things. Dry and literal. I suppose it's how I say my jokes. Sometimes my humor goes over people's heads. I can understand how you might miss the joke.
Just got the game in it’s Steam release and blasted through it in 3 sessions. I absolutely love everything it’s doing. On the other hand I can see it being a total nightmare if you’re struggling with the combat. At least you can exit mid run now without loosing progress. I wouldn’t even say the game is super hard but if you’re struggling it’s super punishing. I think you really nailed it in the video. I love the game, can’t say I recommend it to most people.
Thank you kindly! I had a great time with the game, but there are a lot of people that will struggle with it. I'm really glad they fixed the save thing. It's annoying having to sit there and run through the whole thing in one shot.
You can tell when the game wants you dead it’s bullshit. I’ll get far as fuck with full health then some random shit happens. You can tell it feels rigged
I don't agree. There aren't really any unfair deaths in the game. The game is just naturally tough. There aren't those gotcha kinda deaths like in other games.
These games are about slow progression. You move forward a bit. Unlock a few upgrades. And you keep at it till you reach the end. Definitely not for everyone.
Easy to recommend when it's free on PS Plus, that's when I picked it up. and yep, it's a great game. However, I do have the "save feature" now. So there is that.
I happen to fall into this game after my annual payment to PSN. "just got a ps5" so i renewed... Hard, hard game. But i'm addicted..."like Elden Ring" crazy hard at first and never let up, Like This game i can't put down... ok only for sleep and food and work. Oh and a movie with the wife of course. Great game and i'm having a "hateful" BLAST with it so far... Great vid! Been playing games since the, Atari 2600 and, the commodore 64 etc...
@Women should cook And clean unprompted what??? Elden Ring is a fantastic game. And, everyone should cook and clean. These are valuable life skills. If you think this should be relegated to only the females, then your opinion about video game probably don't t have much merit either. Bad take my friend, and worse choice for your yt name.
@Women should cook And clean unprompted again, bad take. Everyone should do it. Women and men. And, really? Women should do it for their man?! People should do it because it needs to be done, and for that reason alone. Where did you get this opinion from, the 1600s? Most households require both people to work. Your stance on this is outdated and obsolete, not to mention fundamentally wrong. Fix your opinion buddy. Women are not here to serve their men. That is just not how relationships work. It's sad there's still people that think this way.
I'm really trying to like this, but I can't advance any further I stuck right at The begging of The Game. I don't know if it's glitched or something but I feel I wasted 70$ on this
It's a grind. You unlock items that can be accessed later and eventually open up warps to the other areas once you've beaten the bosses. But getting there can be laborious. I liked the game, but I knew what I was getting into. I like games like this, but it's not for everyone.
That's a great price for the game. I feel it should've launched cheaper. I do wonder if that high price tag at launch had a negative effect on the sales. This game could've been a huge hit, but they were asking a bit too much for it.
It was incredible until biome 5. It seemed like they stopped caring about fun and decided to go all out and make everything do massive damage and you do barely any. It became incredibly boring after biome 4 and I ended up quitting because of just how un fun it felt in the fractured wastes
@@Zoznerol fractured Wastes. Gotta get the 3 keys to fight the boss I’m assuming but everything killed me so fast I could only get 1 and then died and after about 2 hours of the same shit I ended up quitting. Honestly super disappointed in that I absolutely loved the game up until then
@@Zoznerol in my honest opinion it’s what ruined the game for me. I literally just looked up and the (weapon I don’t remember the name of) that I thought wasn’t very good because of the 2 shots (yes it did good damage but 2 shots didn’t seem worth) apparently it’s their weakness and I didn’t know enemies had a fucking weakness. Also the jump to get the suit upgrade where you can walk on the red shit I thought was a jump I couldn’t get back from without taking damage and me worried about beating the biome never gets it. I just thought it seemed like they stopped caring and said “up the difficulty a lot anddddd that’s about it I think we’re done here” like seriously I felt like I was doing something wrong because I dealt very little damage with everything and took so much. Just felt more like work than a fun game experience that I had had prior to biome 5. Very disappointing in my opinion
If SEKIRO doesn't get on your wick then you would like this game. It's nails hard and unfair. It will get you down BUT when you do beat a boss you are going to feel pretty proud of your badass self
I don't think so. It has been a long time since I've played it. I do know they added a way to suspend your progress so you don't have to play through the whole thing in one go. But, once you've beaten a boss, you don't have to play through it again. The game does let you skip through areas you've already beaten. I guess that's some kind of checkpoint system.
I wouldn't go as far as to say 10/10, but it's pretty great. The game froze a bunch during my playthrough, and the story kinda fizzled out at the end for me. Otherwise, I really enjoyed it.
Returnal is at the top of my list. And I will admit I am a blockbuster guy. I like engaging story's. I like the better than movies aspect of modern games. I have said so many times on my playthrough of returnal. I Love.. and fucking hate this game. I'm about to beat Act 3 now. And I wouldn't have dreamed of a better game to buy with my ps5. It is fucking awesome.
From all the discourse I've seen on this game, it seems as if the console community isn't familiar with the roguelike genre of games. A lot of the negative criticism would be alleviated by just knowing what a roguelike is before playing it.
I agree. This is a very specific kind of game. The promotional material didn't do a good job at explaining this. Most people were expecting a more straightforward action game.
The problem with Returnal is it does not have gyro aimg. i just cant aim with sticks alone.on pc i dont want to use a keyboard. mouse is great. that is why i use mouse gyro.
I've never had an issue aiming with analog sticks. I've been using them since the ps1. It's just natural for me. I like the ps5 controller quite a bit. Makes claw grip very comfortable.
@@Zoznerol The reason i dont like t is because i am very susceptible towards aim assist. I notice that console games aim for me instead of me aiming myself. Some games put your cursor in the emidiate facinity of the nearest anemy when you press the aim down sided trigger. (often the left trigger). So lets say there is a enymy to my far left. i am not in aiming mode and my crosshair is to the far right of the screen. when i go in to aim down sides mode the game puts the corsair near the enemy. now i only have to move the stick a little to hit the enemy. That is because you cant aim accurate enough with the sticks. So the game just puts the crosshair near the nearest enemy. Some games slow down your aiming when you are near an enmy witht the croshair. That is to make sure you dont overshoot the target. To make a long story short, i dont like the game cheating on my behalve. if i am bad at aiming i want to miss my shots. when i hit an rnrmy i want it to be because i aimed at the enemy all by myself. That is why gyro aiming with aim assist of is the best for me personally. I jsut hope Sony will keep putting it in all AAA first party titles. And if they really have the balls then they would force players to use it in the tutorial, like splatoon does. Gyro aiming only got populor on switch because Nintendo forced the player to use it in the tutorial in splatoon. More ppeople where exposed to it. People who liked it left it turned on. People who hated it could turn it of. alles Sony has no balls whatsoever and they dont inovate. Just like Nintedo and Microsoft they even refuse to resolve stickdrift, although this has been resolved over 20 years ago by sega. The solution is hall effect sensors and htey are not event hat expensive to implement. I just hope all 3 company''s will inivate more on both gyro aiming and the use of hall effect sensors in the future.
@@caleasthetic quite a few generalizations there, but I get what you're saying. For the most part. I'm fine with or without gyro aiming. I just play whatever the game offers. If the game has it, I use it, if it doesn't, it won't matter to me. I'll enjoye the game regardless. Plenty of games don't have gyro or aim assist, and it hasn't affected my ability to play. Analog sticks are just a effective as a mouse once you've had enough experience with them.
Out-freaking-standing Review/Video my friend! Insightful, Hilarious, and well thought out! And as the announcer in the Mk series occasionally says: Flawless Victory! I recently put down the game for good yesterday. I was already playing it once or twice a month as it was, and after getting the Mc-Covie, and on a mandatory vacay, i gave it a try again I've payed around 37 hours, and while the game is aesthetically pleasing, it is experientially eye-rolling. I got into the game because of the genre, sci-fi, not rogue-like XD--and grew into the expectations of how the game plays, and how it wants you to play it. That's this game's ultimate demise. It takes itself way too seriously. It thinks that you're going to continually give it a shot, and open up your entire afternoon for it, and when the weekend comes, your entire saturday morning, and if you failed, your entire saturday afternoon too. ...yeah (insert jj jameson meme...here) The games fatal flaw is foundational, its the progression-design, to encourage multiple play-throughs so you can level up weapons, and over time, pick up the stats mechanics on your own-and this is accomplished by unbalancing the difficulty of the scenario the game throws at you. For example, difficulty 3,3,6,5,10!!!! The game just smacks the crap out of you in one or two encounters of the game, and sometimes I truly believe they're unwinnable-and like a casino boss who knows you're gonna come back for more is waiting behind the glass, smiling, tapping their shoes on the floor, waiting for you to put another credit into the machine. So because we should come from a culture of putting foreward a solution instead of just a criticism, a major way this game could have mitigated its probably 80%-90% player fall-off would have been to include progression quests. For example, it is very clear the game doesn't want you to beat it in less than 10-14 hours, so you design portions of the game through progression phases (instead of a free-for-all, figure it out on your own as you continue to die), where you can weave in story lore, and story mechanics at the same time. We can learn how the different category of items in the game effect stats and performance. You do this by providing Progression quests for the player to seek out a single or particular item for example. Through Selene's logs, we can have a holo-room or holo-projection of stalled and incomplete data for an item or area that she needs to explore more fully to understand This would have been a great mechanic to justify stretching a campaign that should have been beatable in 6-8 hours and stretching it to something of the length of a traditional rpg. These side-quests would work exactly like the signals of fallen players you find in the maps, or even more structurally embedded in a quest menu. They'd be optional, and prove a progress path to consumable tokens to choose items of your picking, selecting load outs, perma unlocks, or even specialty limited use items like fast travel to a: "settlement" which would grant you temporary start point/access to a biome of your choosing, 3/4 cycles before it's probably destroyed by the fauna and flora. Or just plain cosmetic items like player and weapon skins, turn selene into a zombie, the enemies into clowns, i mean, just something that we can work towards between cycles, that if you’re a true to the death hard core f’ing fan of a rogue-like experience would scoff at but use secretly, fine, but some of us, normies, would want, and thus help keep a healthy populated player envirnment. By the way the daily challenges is a wonderful way to enjoy and bring extra fun the game. Just as you said, my friend, this was an introduction of a genre to a height that it'd never been raised to, and it truly missed an opportunity to bring in a wider crowd while still satisfying the get-better, hard core, ill give you my entire life if I have to crowd. Thank you for making this video, it felt like a really cool mini-doc :)
Those are some pretty good ideas. I managed to beat the game fairly quickly, once I got the hang of it, but there was a lot of quitting and starting again if the first vendor didn't have the perfect set of items, or if I didn't get that one gun I liked. It got tedious, but I did enjoy the overall experience.
They added the tower an endless mode and coop in the main game also you can now suspend the cycle you can close the game without losing progress but if you die after restarting obviously the cycle will start over
Retrunal I hate it enough not to play it anymore but love it enough not to sell my copy. The save quit feature not from the start was bu ll shit. It's is an awesome game but going back to the beginning ever-time you die sucks. There should have been an option for a boss check point and i would come back.
Thanks for the sub! I kinda feel this video has aged a bit lol. My biggest complaint was the absurd price at launch. Isn't it now free with ps plus? I didn't mind starting from the beginning because it allowed for you to get some good upgrades before warping to the area you've unlocked. But it is fun to play. Great fast twitch action. Reminds me of some of the games I grew up with. For what it's supposed to be, it's very well designed.
@@Zoznerol Well, missing items, disappearing weapon traits, locked doors which are the only way out and currently i'm stuck in a room because the teleporter gate isn't working. reached out to housemarque support but no reaction at all from them. i'm fed up with this game. EDIT: Here's a clip of my latest bug which get me stuck: ua-cam.com/video/nHv7-sFmlUs/v-deo.html
@@Zoznerol I'm on PS5. Later found out most of this stuff was already posted on reddit 2 years ago but never got fixed. so i guess it was naive from me to expect they care about my support ticket now.
From your editing, some comments and this video alone I believe we share many common ideas on videogames. I don't fully grasp why you believe that not aining to cater for the broadest range of players possible makes it less of a great game? Like, you see that as a problem while I see it as a quality.
This was my first video of this kind so I may have not have properly communicated myself. Plus, it's kinda not relevant anymore either. My problem was how this game was being treated by Sony. Returnal is a very niche game, but it's being sold as a more standard AAA title. I thought the marketing for it was bad, and the price at launch was a horrible idea. There's lots of people I know that got the game, not really knowing what it is, and hated it. I remember early ads for the game. It looked like some standard action shooter, not a roguelike. I honestly feel Sony trying to sell this to the masses they way that they did was a big mistake.
@@Zoznerol I had absolutely no idea about that. It makes sense they could (and want to) frame it that way but it's a very dumb move. I think it's still relevant though to help me understand why this game flew under the radar - I just got a PS5 with it and as former Binding of Isaac addict I am loving this, and having a very good experience. This perspective + the ps5 shortage/scalping during first release year might explain it better now. A shame, because like you put it, I doubt a game of this kind will ever be produced. Very very unlikely, but I'm glad we have it.
@Lexxidon this kind of game was never going to gain mass appeal. Not because it isn't amazing, but rather because it was deliberately made for a certain audience. A lot of early reviews I saw kept asking "Who is this game for?" It's for people like us. I'm a huge fan of roguelike games. I've always wanted to play Isaac, but haven't gotten around to it yet. I'm not sure if they wanted a return on investment, but selling this game at a AAA price, like it's a AAA game gave potential buyers the wrong idea. Despite its production value and graphics, Returnal is not a AAA experience. Those games generally cater to the greatest possible number of gamers. Look at Elden Ring, for example. Souls games didn't achieve massive sales until they adopted more AAA traits: the open world, the crafting, the stealth. Returnal was never supposed to be a AAA game. It should not have been sold as one.
The only problem is that character being an old lady absolutely tanked the sales. I don't mind, but it was a poor decision. The game is already not very accesible to the normies...
I'm not sure what impact that really had on the game. I don't think it was a poor decision. I honestly think it was bad marketing that had the biggest effect. Ads for the game at launch didn't do a very good job of communicating what the game really was about. They made the game look more like a standard 3rd person shooter. Either way, the game was never going to sell all that well, given how niche it is.
@@Zoznerol Not sure? There's more than enough evidence, especially in the gaming industry. Your main character's appearance is extremely important. A fast paced, sci-fi 3rd person shooter and they went with an old lesbian math teacher looking mc. YEAH sure, no impact at all. At least the writing is really well done, fits the vibe and all.
@@eduardobenassi3072 old lesbian math teacher?! Not cool. There's no problem whatsoever with the main character of this game. If anyone looks at that as the problem with the game, that says a lot about them. The very fact that you referred to her as looking like a lesbian is a problem in itself. The main character being an older female shouldn't be a problem, sci-fi shooter or otherwise.
@@Zoznerol I get it, you're one of those. Yikes. The problem is America being plagued with borderline mentally impaired morons who get offended by silly stereotypes. I don't even HAVE a PROBLEM with the MC, I'm just pointing out what REALITY is and you don't seem to see it. I didn't make this up. F#ck, you can barely read your own language, apparently. The whole point of my comments just flew over your bird brain. Facepalm into another dimension.
@@ShinyRyuji you did, but said nothing to back it up. Honestly I'm interested in hearing your opinion. You feel like it's more the just a game. I'd like to know why.
game slaps. the more you do good the enemies keeps getting harder on the fly. i've played a lot of online game that has matchmaking goes against you always this one has same feeling. It wants you to die. i like the game but i got 3 decades of game backlogs i just cant waste time like this
@@Zoznerol im more of a mouse and keyboard shooter guy my skill wont translate properly on controller. I'd give this a try again once out on PC. I'd call Souls-like, DOOM & APEX LEGENDS more "Fun" and REWARDING than this Game though, Still a good game. and recommended
@@Zoznerol I changed my opinion.. I took my time learning the controller and tone down the flicking habits i have from Mouse & Keyboard. It took me a while to improved but i reached the undersea Biome. This game is addicting and FUN! its so underrated and it deserved more attention. I'd say this is my GOTY contender
@@qwerty6789x glad to hear it. I must admit, I've never actually used a mouse and keyboard for a game in my life. The few times I've played a game on a PC, I've used a controller. I've always been a lay down on the bed with three pillows to recline kinda gamer. Consoles since childhood. Sitting on a chair in front of a monitor just isn't comfy for me.
@@Zoznerol I luckily only started playing it a few months ago well after the patch. Only real problem I found was lack of instructions what to expect. I'm good at games and this was really hard at the beginning
It's not like dark souls and it's not punishing. Returnal tries its best to be a roguelike-soulslike hybrid, but, problem is, the devs, apparently, aren't aware what makes a roguelike, well, roguelike and soulslike, well, soulslike. You can finish the game extremely fast, easily under 10 hours, there is no variety and there is no replayability, which makes it a bad rougelike. Meanwhile, for a soulslike its combat system is not that interesting and the game itself is not that hardcore - it's tedious and annoying at best.
Once you realize this game is basically like doom eternal but in third person you'll start playing much better. Never stay still, always be moving and shooting use your traversal abilities and melee all the time.. hell you have unlimited ammo just clear out areas fully etc... Once that clicks it's basically game over and you'll wonder why you struggled to begin with.
I’ve yet to find a roguelike game it I’ve liked and beat. That genre is just 100% not for me, and this time I think I’ve tried my last roguelike and won’t be wasting my time with others. I don’t have the patience to play the same opening sequence over and over again until I master ever last detail and can make a deep run. It’s not what I personally enjoy in games; I like the progression aspect of games. I like investing in virtual worlds and enjoying the tangible fruits of my investment. Returnal didn’t do it for me. It was fascinating for a few but I quickly got bored and had no desire to play it. It didn’t hook me at all
I am a fan of the genre. It reminds me a bit of the kind of games I grew up with. But I can see how it's not for everyone. What are your favorite kinds of games?
Nope. It was either do it all in one go, or put the ps5 in rest mode until you can continue playing. It essentially meant doing a 3+hr run in a single sitting.
with so many deaths, i'm sometimes asking myself if did anybody actually finish the game and what kind of beast those players that actually had the nerves to get to the end 😂😂😂
@@Zoznerol I'd say the main factor it didn't grow on my was all the glowing blue neon font all over the place, same like cyberpunk with all the glowing red font.
Returnal is great, for what it is. If you're a fan of really hard games, like old NES kinda hard, it's definitely worth the $70. But, I don't recommend it unless someone knows they like these types of games. It's kinda brutal. And fast. Reminds me of playing Mega Man.
@@mohammedalhazmi7178 Souls games are a different difficulty. They require patience. Returnal is a reflex and dexterity kinda hard. Cuphead kinda hard.
souls fans who want to use a gun will buy this. game. my only negative taught is that the game is hella short. fucking sony, could go to 10 acts minimum? wtf?! the game is sweet but VERY SHORT!!!
The game is rather short, but I don't see a real resemblance to Souls games at all. While both are challenging, they don't really have anything in common.
@@Zoznerol haha. Invulnerable dodge, few hits dead back to bonfire ship, big ass bosses, overcomplicated lore, minimal tutorial. I mean comon... Thats the soul of a soul game 🎮 🙌 😌. Oh i forgot the rage delete 7% of players killed the first boss part. Lol. Souuuuls!!!!
@@maximepivi those things do not make a Souls game. This does not play like any Souls-type game. The gameplay has more in common with a shooter from the 90's. The combat is reflex based. Souls combat is more timing based. Going back to the start of the game does not make it Souls like. Nor does the fact that is it challenging. And plenty of other games have a dodge. That does not make it one either. This game has more in common with Ikaruga than it ever will with a Souls game. I could not disagree less.
It pains me to admit that I only got until the 5th biome and could never finish it until doing multiplayer :( It was simply too hard for me to finish given only the chance to start from the 4th biome
Lol. I've been playing Souls games for a decade now, so I'm used to them. Regardless, Returnal is a different kind of challenge than those games. Its difficulty is reflex based, whereas Souls games are more about patience, rhythm, and timing. And, compared to the other Souls games released since then, Demon's is not all that difficult. The gameplay is a bit different than a typical arpg, so there's difficulty in adjusting to it. Returnal is more like something that isn't all that common nowadays, an 8bit side scrolling action game. But it's in 3D. It felt very familiar to me, but those kind of reflexes are not required out of too many games today.
I actually assumed this video was intended as sarcasm. I assumed it would have concluded by the guy saying only joking, the game is amazing and will go down as a classic and one of the most memorable games for the generation. Returnal is a game that sticks with you. I don't think any ps5 game is worth £60 or 70 dollars. Even when GTA6 comes out I'll wait till it goes down in price. The most expensive game I bought for my ps5 was probably about £23-28 and even the £28 game would have been less because I traded in a game and got money off. I think I traded in Remedy's Control and bought a pre owned copy of the Dead Space remake because I wanted less cross gen games and more games built for the current gen systems to get the best out of my ps5.My best games were all under £20 including Returnal.🤷
You should have a more subscribers....I've been on the fence honestly my criteria for most of my ps5 games have to push the limits visually. I wanted to purchase it but the 69.99 got a first class ticket to the wishlist. I understand that creating & developing video games for a mass quantity of people is not easy by any means. I've been burned too many times by AAA devs with their budget & lack of passion. I plan to buy it one day...it's screams my personality but I'm not willing to buy any next Gen for more than 49.99. I just can't knowing the DLC will have the rest of what should have been in there from start. Plus the bugs and other issues it's a not worth it honestly and a bit ridiculous.... Cool looking game though
This game is fucking incredible. If you think it's too hard you're just not giving it enough time or you're just terrible. This is a masterpiece! I've played it though at least 10 times now. So much fun and such amazing gameplay.
I had a great time with the game. It wasn't without its issues, especially at launch, but I enjoyed it. I would certainly categorize it as a "hard" game, although I don't believe I said it was too hard. Not for me, at least. However, there are plenty of people that would find it a bit too hard. A game like this isn't for everyone.
@@Zoznerolmy comment wasn't directed at you for sure. More for anyone that watches your vid.
@kevinsantarossa6850 😂 gotcha
As an action story game it's great, as a roguelike it lacks run variety. One thing it definitely needs is a hud element to better indicate when something is about to hit you from behind.
Roguelikes are my favorite genre and I had to wait about 1-2 years to finally get returnal on pc and I enjoyed it but it wasn't the reinvention of the roguelike I had heard it was.
I agree with you as far as saying that this game is a masterpiece! However I also agree with @zoznerol in saying that this game is a whole not genre, it is an experiment! He mentions this game having retro like elements, which is true, but the big element here that makes this game different from retro is that even in retro games you were given at least 3 lives before you started over again. Returnal gives you 0! This is comparing it to retro game from the 80's and a little bit of the 90's, because after that all games allowed you to save and keep what you earned!
You personally enjoyed Returnal and had the time and energy to keep at it! That is great! I am glad you enjoy this game! However talking down to others who did not enjoy the game for reasonable reasons is not a very good way to start the conversation. Just sayin! 🤷♂
As someone diagnosed with PTSD I would describe this game as a poignant and brutal exploration of that condition
I never looked at it from that perspective. I can certainly see that.
Spot on
If it had save points it would still be hard but not punishing and that would have been enough to be super popular and easy to recommend.
Rather at least a couple checkpoints, or keeping weapons and life once dead idk
Given how I've seen that the game delves a lot into the PC's past, you could have something like a house or bedroom as savepoint. Playing further into the whole memory thing.
It is a save point you have to make it to stage four and then you can do four through six if you lose
@@demshirosan7311 >Keeping weapons and life once dead.
But that completely goes against the point of Rougelikes.
It basically does, there’s plenty of permanent stuff every time you progress
Problem? I'm playing it, I'm liking it. 34 hours in, 87 deaths, I'm finally half way through the game. Still playing.
Update: In the end, I kept playing because of the compelling gameplay, and how I imagined I was staying connected to Selene's trauma/turmoil. But eventually, after the compulsion of the gameplay died down, I was frustrated that the real meaning and truth of the story was left so vague. I remember thinking to myself that if Returnal 2 was ever released, I'd buy it day 1, no question. But I'd be frustrated if it was still left vague, or went in a direction that just made it too divergent from the original game. So I'll hope for a second game with cautious optimism. What sold me on getting Returnal was the voice acting in the trailer I overheard when at the game store - and the gameplay sucked me in hard. I would like to see a second game, but I feel cautious.
I know it's 2 years old your comment, but...
For the real ending you have to play the Tower of Sisyphus DLC. By completing that you get a bunch of new audio logs, tons of story in dialogue & a very cool new mechanic (trying not to spoil but it's all story related in the Tower starting area) that delves deep into Selene, Theia, & Helios.
Death loop is not what pisses me off, what pisses me off is when I took a chunk of my time to get perks, weapons only to lose it all just because of one crash or I have to get off the game. I have a life
The game froze on me several times. I hope they've fixed that since release.
You can suspend your cycle bud. It's been like that for a while now
@choochootrain2145 well I haven't been playing the game for a while now
Easily my game of the year 2021 so far but it's a tough job to convince my friends to give it a shot.
It could have been cos the game looks awesome and play great but atleast it could have had check points every level. But to aspect me to sit there for that much time or 1 dead and I have to start from level 1 when I died in 3 level . No no.
And I’m a souls game player, so I love a challenge but this is just ridiculous imo 🤷♂️
Damn then we all really are different. I can’t get into this whatsoever
There's a trick of unlimited saves points in Returnal. Just search it in UA-cam
Is this programmed into the game, or is it an exploit?
@@arongatt and dont have much tine to play like when i was young. is to much time to invest in this game.
This is THE shooter. Period. Doom is fun as hell but this is the shit. Why people say difficult, brutal? Death is part of the game and as soon as you realise it and get to know it you'll begin to have even more fun. I was having so much fun with the game that I didn't mind at all if I died. I was almost looking forward to it 😊
Other people had a life to live without autism.
you said it all.
I got it day one as an early ps5 adopter and even with a couple crashes before save states were added it's a game I'd comfortably give a 10\10.
It's a great game, but also a niche genre. I think Sony took a big chance making this a $70 title. It's a new ip, and this price may have really hurt its chances of success.
I couldn't realize why even though it's hard for me to progress and i die all the time i still enjoy getting into it and now it clicked it's basically a platformer arcade game that i used to love to play as a kid , just in 3D . If someone wants to get into this solely to progress, level up and follow the story like god of war for example than they wouldn't like it but if someone enjoys running around and killing monsters just for the sake of it , literally like old arcade games than that's it .
Yes! That's exactly what it felt like when I was playing it. Old school shooter!
In a day and age where every game is trying to be movie or some "deep" piece of art, it feels really great to play a game that's not afraid to feel like a video game.
Your review really was well done. Few reviews I have seen point out how high the entry costs for this game are concerning price and expectations. Luckily, it goes on sale every now and then and the save issue has been addressed. As someone who loves Dark Souls's difficulty (Sl1 runs and Sekiro included), I will give this a try. But what draws me in even more is its tone and storytelling. This is what made the first Dark Souls so special (even among Dark Souls games) and it is something that seems to decide what my favourite games are. If Housemarque are equally daring with the tone, presentation, and storytelling as they are with the game's identity - doing something triple-A-titles normally don't - and the game does seem to be very self-aware at the very least, then this might be something to love
- on sale and with the save function finally added.
Thank you kindly! These kinds of games are a rather niche genre. It was a bit odd to give it the 'AAA' treatment. But the presentation is spot on and the game is definitely worth checking out, especially now that they've added some quality of life improvements.
Good review. I came across a link to this randomly on FB. Couldn't find it when I went back to look for it. I was waiting for this to come down in price, but with no save/quit mechanic I might not get at all. Like you i'm older and have 2hrs at best in one sitting on a good day to play. Liked & Subbed. Hope your channel grows well.
Thank you! Replies like yours make all the hours of editing worth it.
@@Zoznerol you can just power down the ps5 and boot it back up and you will start exactly where you were when you turned it off lol
@@N1rOx i did a couple times. Once, I came home and the machine was off. Lost the progress, so, yeah.
@@Zoznerol excited about suspend mode? I don't know why anyone was every against that. No different from putting console into rest mode. Just guarantees no data loss. Every other roguelite has it
Well maybe it’s worth checking out again now that they’ve added the save mechanics? Theres always been a bunch of kinda save mechanics like once you beat a levels boss it lets you skip most of that level. Plus other methods to skip the early levels once you progress far enough. But mostly there’s a full blown save mechanic to suspend the cycle (play other games) and come back later
I finished the game few weeks ago, tower included, it took me about 100 hours. The game is fire but, is anyone at sony aware of the game story? holy shit... I already expected a gameplay clean as fuck, is Housemarque after all. But i didnt expected such psychological thriller. 10/10
Amazing game was hard at first but after you get it it’s pretty easy good story The difficulty is what makes it so replayable once you master one stage The next one gives you a great challenge until basically you can speed run it and feel like a savage
I really enjoyed the pace. You never feel safe and always need to keep moving. Great game!
Loved it and want a sequel or some DLC, only game I’ve dedicated myself on the PS5.
Straight facts, the games amazing
I wish there is mode that has checkpoints..l am suffering with this game...l played for 4 straight days and l am just going to delete it,..
That's unfortunate. I really liked the game. It does have some weird difficulty spikes, but I thought it was manageable.
Okay my biggest tip is it’s all about resource management because there is a finite about of enemies. You need get the upgrades without taking too much damage as you’ll end up buying health. Can’t remember specifics on what you should to get now cause it’s been a while I’ve played but focus on that. UA-cam the bosses so you have some idea what to expect if you don’t want go in blind.
This game is HARD… but it’s super satisfying when you progress. I’m having troubles getting the second ending but finally beating it for the first time was insane.
It's pretty easy
What is? The game?
It is the first game in a long time where the learning curve and genuinely feeling my skill progress noticeably compared to any other game, beating it never gave me a greater sense of accomplishment.
I am in no way being condescending, but I really do feel bad for players who didn't have fun with or gave up on it.
@@DANRYX I gave up on it a few hours after buying it. I went back a few months later and had an absolute blast playing it. I was still never able to get the third ending but I’m pretty satisfied with how far I got.
@@Lysergic.Black.Death. I beat it 6 times trying to get the 3rd ending and only found out yesterday that you have to collect fragments of a decorative sun, 1 fragment in each biome and then you have to revisit the house.
Just bought the deluxe version for 60 bucks I didn’t watch any review and that was probably stupid but it’s really fun. I’m surprised how much I like it, I don’t normally go for these types of games but it’s really fun. I have like 5 hours I think and I still haven’t beaten the first main boss but I’m getting there lol. Anyways great video
Passed on this game at launch as it’s not the kind of game I’d usually go for. Ended up picking it up this week as I had nothing else going on for games and honestly I’m kind of annoyed I slept on this one at first. One of the best games I’ve played in a while. Everything about this game just works. The visuals, the amazing sound design, the addictive gameplay. Even when I was dying all the time my first runs before it clicked I didn’t even mind because I couldn’t wait to get back into it. Highly recommend. Even if it’s not someone’s usual type of game. If you even kind of think you might like this, go for it. I even thought it was worth 70 dollars and I mocked the game for this price point before release. I also couldn’t believe people were saying this was their game of the year, but honestly now I can see it. Everything about this game just works, and it is a great game. 9 out of 10 for sure.
Tbf there is no excuse for any game to be that expensive
@@frisby7143 yah I mean I get it. I would much prefer to remain at the 60 dollar price point. Especially when Sony’s competitor is staying there and many third party devs are as well. But we’ve been at 60 dollars for so long now we couldn’t expect it to stay that way forever. And if you put 60, 70, 100, something huge, hours into a game I think that justifies that price anyday. Thing is you don’t know how long you’ll spend with a game until you play it. The only issue I have with it is that sure, games are more expensive than ever to make, with prices approaching half a billion dollars on some games like RDR2. But, gaming is also bigger than ever and all platforms are reporting record profits that only increase year over year. While I think game prices can’t stay stagnant forever, I just also think that if you’re making record profits why are you raising the cost to the consumer. So I am torn on this one in how I feel about it. For a game I really want, and know I will likely enjoy, 70 dollara is what it is and 10 dollars won’t keep me from playing it and is not a large enough barrier. But for games I’m unsure of, which may or may not work out, like Returnal even though Returnal worked out for me, it does make me more hesitant to take a risk on unknown games. And I’m sure people who spent far less time with Returnal or didn’t get through the game feel they got ripped off here. It’s subjective I suppose. So I think this will do more harm than good for Sony. It makes them look greedy so is not a good PR move, and it makes people more hesitant to buy new IP’s. Which considering with GoW and Horizon being crossplay, and Horizon still allowing the free upgrade so will technically be 60 dollars for PS5 players that can just buy the PS4 version and upgrade immediately, they’re going to be relying on a lot of new IP’s. Other than those we just got a few of their major IP games already the last couple years so there’s not much else coming for a while, and it will be new IP’s. They’re setting themselves up for less day one launch sales of games by doing this. And they don’t even need to do it as they are reporting record profits. Just seems like a bad idea. Although most people will pay it. For exclusives they have no choice, and most people get a PS5 for the exclusives. Maybe they’re banking on all the people paying 70 dollars outweighing the loss in sales of people who don’t want to pay it and will wait for sales now.
try deathloop if you havent yet…
That looked fun. I've been thinking about getting it.
Amen brother! I feel what your saying 🤙🤙
Totally agree with you, this game needs a fricken save function and i dont give a sh*t NOT ONE SH*T if that doesnt make it a roguelike anymore. They should srsly make a separate game mode for purists and casual gamers
I don't think the omission of a save function changes it being a roguelike. Is a simple quality of life feature for people that might have things to do.
You don't like the genra then dont buy it. Idiotic comment
I would never play a game that doesn't respect my time. We ain't no teenagers anymore with tons of free time ! When you disrespect our time and disregard any type of checkpoints then your game is not for the majority of the population who actually have jobs.
I don't think a game is supposed to consider a player's time. It's supposed to provide an experience. Some games are unreasonably long, but that's not the case with this game. And the game does have a checkpoint system of sorts. Once you've beaten the boss of an area, you do not have to play though the whole thing. You can warp to the next area, and once you've beaten most of the bosses, you can beat the game in about 3 hours. While there are some people that may not want to do so, or do not have the time, that is not a fault of the game. What they did with returnal, they did quite well. It may not be for you, but it is still a quality product. And from what I've heard, they did patch in a save and quit function, so the time investment is no longer an issue.
@@Zoznerol well beating a boss takes you several hours of gameplay so having a save function every few hours of a perfect run with zero deaths is not considered a save function. As for me i really would have liked to play the game, but the idea of losing progress and time investment is a nightmare to me ! Thats why i deleted demon souls after a few times of this happening and why i deleted elden rings after a couple of hours as i have no tolerance to repeating something i did countless times ! Life is too short for that.
@@mohamad-abdo to each their own. That's why there's all sorts of different games.
There isnt a problem with the game. Its absolutely genius. Game of the year Iin my opinion
The developers litterally made a perfect game
Play more games
@@bully_hunter_4206 maybe he has
Took me a while to get into it but I finally did and after 55 hours I got the Plat.
@@cletokings4302 damn bro. I've got 60+ hours. Don't have plat.
Yeah I hate when games don’t let you save often enough. That’s just silly.
Absolutely love this review. I’ve only had this game for a week and have t even beat the first boss yet. But it’s addicting as hell. I tried explaining what this game is to my friend but he can’t grasp the idea of it but I’m hoping he buys it and we can go through it together.
Thank you! I never got to do any co-op. That came out well after I was done with the game. What else have they added?
To be honest. No clue.
Actually not true. They did add save and quit
Also I’ve been watching more of your videos please keep them coming. Loving every single one.
@@ericdemare9604 Thank you kindly! Sometimes I think all I'm saying is nonsense. This really makes me feel better about what I'm doing.
The game could use more of an optional guided tutorial to help orient new players. It’s amazing, but so much basic stuff isn’t outright explained. It’s really easy to keep hitting a wall in that first biome.
I don't think it really needed a tutorial in that regard. The gameplay is simple and straightforward. I do think it's a bit of a shock for those that haven't played roguelikes before. But, it isn't very complicated.
It's definitely not for me, its way too hard. I use more time restarting than i think its fun. I have played for a week straight and haven't even beaten the first boss
It's not for everyone. But it is a quality game. I enjoyed it.
@Zoznerol it is a quality game for sure. It's just a shame that it isn't for everyone. I mean i may not be the best gamer. But I've also been a gamer for maybe 30 years so im not a noob either. And for me there's an illogical flaw in that you can keep the sword but not artifacts upgrades and weapons.
Let us keep those things it would be cooler and make more sense too. Plus actually give something to work forward to achieve.
And it will even still be hard!
Just more fun.
As said ive just used too much time starting over and when everythings up to change, then its just too un forgiving and not fun enough.
@@mynameisnobody3931 I really enjoyed the action. There's a rhythm that you get into when your in the zone that this game does so well. You do make a good point about the sword, but that's how it is with these kinds of games.
@Zoznerol i was too disheartened to get into that zone, because i guess im simply not good enough, combined with that i have a hard time with the illogical things plus its just too unforgiving.
I mean if it was real life, i guess i had to keep continuing since i literally would have all eternity lol.
But i don't, and it's still just a game...
@@mynameisnobody3931 understandable. Maybe not the illogical things as much. Most video games are filled with illogical nonsense lol. But, I get why you didn't like it.
"I love the game but I can't recommend it" sums up most of the games I've been playing recently: Warframe, Nioh 2 and Returnal.
The core gameplay loop in these games is brilliant, but they don't respect the player's time, failing to tutorialize key aspects of the game (Warframe) and piling on silly mechanics just to make the game more souls-like/challenging when in fact it's being counter-productive to the game's pacing (Nioh 2).
But I still play them because sadly, there isn't much better to play at the moment (at least in terms of 3rd person action games).
I'm glad you mentioned the lack of save functionality in Returnal as a deal breaker. I grinded the game for 6 hours only to fall through the map, and since there is no out-of-bounds death (WTF!? That's the just straight up incompetence) I had no choice but to reset the game, and start from the beginning again. And the fact that they had to patch the max health exploit kinda proves that the design of this game wasn't properly thought through or tested.
And since I couldn't refund it, I simply won't recommend or ever buy another Housemarque game again.
Nioh 2 deserve my time? Im warframe 2k hours too, i running this returnal in one run now. Playing elden ring casually but nioh 2? Should i?
The three things I didn't like about the game was that if you're looking for an item, you would have to wait and probably die for it to spawn. That one enemy that jumps on top on you every 10 seconds. Also, if you've been alive for a while than all the emey become OP with three different attacks.
That's how it is with roguelikes. It has been a while since I last played, so I don't remember that one enemy you're referring to.
@@Zoznerol It's an abnormal type, the only enemy thats all in your face.
Got lost on trying to find the Anthema key for an hour. Quit and lost that little progress and weapons I made. Uninstalled and not looking back
Understandable.
To me, yes. Also glad it now has the suspend cycle feature. 👍🏻
I've heard. Good. Much better than putting the machine in sleep mode.
I just recently got a ps5 and this was the first game I got. Look I absolutely love the combat, it's fun and engaging.. but I just put it down yesterday and I don't think I'll be going back anytime soon. I just can't see myself grinding everytime I die for 45 mins before I can go back to where I was so I can atleast try to make some progress. I really think they could have made the progress system a lot better. And look this is the first roguelike/lite that I've ever played (I'm a huge souls fan, also really into final fantasy and arpgs) but even people who love roguelike think the sheer amount of time a single run takes is ridiculous
Ok. What do you suggest they do to improve it?
oh man I like the style of (top-down?) shooters (killzone liberation) but never got to a chance to play one except enter the gungeon, what games are 0:29 - 0:32 ?
Dead Nation and Alienation. Both are real fun. Both from Housemarque.
the funny thing is, the game would still be thoroughly challenging and engaging WITH save points. which is why i recommend save scumming to anyone with even a hint of interest. it's a fantastic game and worth experiencing but the barrier to entry and accessibility even for hardcore gamers is ridiculous. no save scumming, the game may be 3/10 for the majority of players. with save scumming, 10/10.
Save scumming?
@@grahamkelly8662 suspending the cycle, uploading the save file to the cloud, and then downloading it as necessary. rinse, repeat. possible through pretty much the whole game (tho def not the Tower).
@@linedpaper5374 oh, I get ya. However, that doesn’t solve the problem that this game or maybe more a problem the player has, and that’s difficulty. Most say it’s crushingly hard, even for hardcore gamers. I think they should have solved this by having 2 modes
1 single player campaign
2 Rouge like 1 death and game over
But then maybe it’s the type of game where you don’t need a story or the ability to save and carry on where you left off, after you die, like most games but I guess I won’t know until I try it and to be honest, I think I will. While I see myself as a pretty decent gamer, I’ve never been brave enough to jump into games like, dark souls , bloodborne etc and never really played a rouge like game. I just know that if I give Returnal a try and absolutely suck , I’ll be ready disappointed and annoyed . Nothing worse then trying a game, really liking it but giving up because it’s way too hard for you. Take mortal kombat, XL for instance, I really enjoyed it, even tho, I’ve not been into beat em ups, since late 90’s. It’s brutally violent and tge fatalities are absolutely batshit out of this world and there’s bloody 100’s of them and I played for over 100 hours , daily, for few weeks BUT I never tried online 1v1 because I’m just flat out ok at mortal Kombat and have no idea how to string together those beautiful long complex combos , that lots of people on UA-cam can do. I’ve even watched a few videos and I’m just lost. Guys saying , this move is plus 14 you can only do minus 1 against this but to get around it, you can change stance, have a quick wank and then counter this by using cancel 4 and I’m like, erm, i think ive had enough of this video. I really want to try Bloodborne but I just know that I’ll suck and just have to give up. If I had someone to help me, I’d jump in, but I don’t. I think you can summon randoms to help but I think I’ll pass. I’ll probably get them mad by my uselessness and I’ll get a load of f bombs over the chat, probably in a tough guy Gangsta voice 😭 happy gaming hey?
This game's story is so hauntingly beautiful, and it needs mentioned. After you beat the game for the first time, the tone so drastically shifts. The furst level takes on new weight as rain turns to water seeping into a car. It's suffocating and claustrophobic and I love it
Yes. I did like the story very much. The second playthrough pieces it all together.
"If you enjoy video games where it's not all about the blah blah, and you like to play for a real, pure action experience with a lot of skill, AKA Souls-like or old-school games, where there was a challenge and not babysitting you all the way, then this game is for you, and it's FREAKING AWESOME."
Yes! Exactly!
Cool game.
Died 2 times at the first boss and deleted it.
If I had nothing else to play I would try it but I already too many games to play and can't afford to waste time with this one.
I liked it alot. But I totally get it. The whole die, rinse, repeat nature of these kinds of games can get tedious.
don't like it either.
Yeah, i have 23hrs in. Died a lot of times , got to biome 4 and explored a bit. Ngl but it's overhyped
Hey I had some feelings about this game when first revealed, want to see what you have to say about it.
It's a very good videogame, but if one of trying to get all trophy, the gold ones one needs a lot of patience because it becomes a bit like a chore, that's why it's nice to do those with a friend to make them less of a pain
I never thought about that. I don't personally care all that much about trophies, so I don't even know how many I got in the game. Most games I just end up getting whatever comes as I play.
The main problem with Returnal is the Electro-Pylon Driver, it's basically a cheat mode for the game.
Returnal is TENSE you have to be so perfect in all runs and also need a dash of luck. I love and hate this game but the gameplay for me is what brings me back every time. Sometimes it can be so unfair when it comes to large mini bosses spawning in the one area. i sat down with this over Christmas and I am just getting used to the 1st biome. I learn something every time but have died thousands of times lol.
The gameplay hits that sweet spot where you just get in the zone. There are some runs that completely sandbag you, but overall the challenge is just right. A personal favorite of mine.
Cycles are too long only if you want to explore every single room. You can skip pass everything once you feel you have the equipment necessary to beat the boss.
Ok.
I dont think ellen as a protagonist was a bold move
I think you didn't understand her name. It's Selene, not Ellen.
@@Zoznerol i dont think you get the joke, Ellen, Ellen Degeners, American talk show host
I got the joke. This is how I respond to things. Dry and literal. I suppose it's how I say my jokes. Sometimes my humor goes over people's heads. I can understand how you might miss the joke.
Just got the game in it’s Steam release and blasted through it in 3 sessions. I absolutely love everything it’s doing. On the other hand I can see it being a total nightmare if you’re struggling with the combat. At least you can exit mid run now without loosing progress. I wouldn’t even say the game is super hard but if you’re struggling it’s super punishing. I think you really nailed it in the video. I love the game, can’t say I recommend it to most people.
Thank you kindly! I had a great time with the game, but there are a lot of people that will struggle with it. I'm really glad they fixed the save thing. It's annoying having to sit there and run through the whole thing in one shot.
Stop. No you didn't.
You can tell when the game wants you dead it’s bullshit. I’ll get far as fuck with full health then some random shit happens. You can tell it feels rigged
i feel the same way smh
I don't agree. There aren't really any unfair deaths in the game. The game is just naturally tough. There aren't those gotcha kinda deaths like in other games.
@@Zoznerol nah man I’ll go really far then all the sudden they send 5 poison guys and 2 shield monsters after you with other small guys
dude i love the review videos! hope youre doing well man!
Doing well! Thanks!
I played this in PC and in 17 hours i finish all the biomes. Is not a hard game in keyboard and mouse, but in pad? is a nightmare.
Makes sense. Mouse and keyboard have always had a big of an advantage with aiming.
I've given this game about 6 hours and can't make sense of a) how to play it b) what I do and don't need to collect and c) what's going on.
These games are about slow progression. You move forward a bit. Unlock a few upgrades. And you keep at it till you reach the end. Definitely not for everyone.
Paid $39.99 December 2021. Absolutely love this game
Easy to recommend when it's free on PS Plus, that's when I picked it up. and yep, it's a great game. However, I do have the "save feature" now. So there is that.
Good. This is no longer a problem. I'm so glad they also added a save feature. It was sorely needed.
I happen to fall into this game after my annual payment to PSN. "just got a ps5" so i renewed... Hard, hard game. But i'm addicted..."like Elden Ring" crazy hard at first and never let up, Like This game i can't put down... ok only for sleep and food and work. Oh and a movie with the wife of course. Great game and i'm having a "hateful" BLAST with it so far... Great vid! Been playing games since the, Atari 2600 and, the commodore 64 etc...
Thank you kindly! The atari 2600 was my first console so I'm right there with you. Glad you liked the video!
@Women should cook And clean unprompted what??? Elden Ring is a fantastic game. And, everyone should cook and clean. These are valuable life skills. If you think this should be relegated to only the females, then your opinion about video game probably don't t have much merit either. Bad take my friend, and worse choice for your yt name.
@Women should cook And clean unprompted again, bad take. Everyone should do it. Women and men. And, really? Women should do it for their man?! People should do it because it needs to be done, and for that reason alone. Where did you get this opinion from, the 1600s? Most households require both people to work. Your stance on this is outdated and obsolete, not to mention fundamentally wrong. Fix your opinion buddy. Women are not here to serve their men. That is just not how relationships work. It's sad there's still people that think this way.
@@Zoznerol you must be a woman...
@@johngallo7383 you're on to me. Don't tell anyone, please. It'll be our little secret.
I'm really trying to like this, but I can't advance any further I stuck right at The begging of The Game. I don't know if it's glitched or something but I feel I wasted 70$ on this
It's a grind. You unlock items that can be accessed later and eventually open up warps to the other areas once you've beaten the bosses. But getting there can be laborious. I liked the game, but I knew what I was getting into. I like games like this, but it's not for everyone.
The no save feature is dumb i agree. Luckily they added so that you can save in the middle of a cycle and safely turn the game of and come back later!
Finally! Took them long enough to add a save and quit.
You technically could suspend a run from release day. Just put your system into rest mode.
It has save and quit now
I've heard. Finally!
By far, this is the best edited review on UA-cam. You just convinced me to buy it. Great job!!!
Wow! Thanks! I really appreciate it. I really liked the game. Hope you do too.
@@Zoznerol I'll keep you posted. Appreciate your review.
Picked Returnal up for 28 bucks. For that price I can enjoy it.
That's a great price for the game. I feel it should've launched cheaper. I do wonder if that high price tag at launch had a negative effect on the sales. This game could've been a huge hit, but they were asking a bit too much for it.
It was incredible until biome 5. It seemed like they stopped caring about fun and decided to go all out and make everything do massive damage and you do barely any. It became incredibly boring after biome 4 and I ended up quitting because of just how un fun it felt in the fractured wastes
Which one is biome 5? Is been a year since I'd played it.
@@Zoznerol fractured Wastes. Gotta get the 3 keys to fight the boss I’m assuming but everything killed me so fast I could only get 1 and then died and after about 2 hours of the same shit I ended up quitting. Honestly super disappointed in that I absolutely loved the game up until then
@@agony9872 I remember that one. It's pretty annoying.
@@Zoznerol in my honest opinion it’s what ruined the game for me. I literally just looked up and the (weapon I don’t remember the name of) that I thought wasn’t very good because of the 2 shots (yes it did good damage but 2 shots didn’t seem worth) apparently it’s their weakness and I didn’t know enemies had a fucking weakness. Also the jump to get the suit upgrade where you can walk on the red shit I thought was a jump I couldn’t get back from without taking damage and me worried about beating the biome never gets it. I just thought it seemed like they stopped caring and said “up the difficulty a lot anddddd that’s about it I think we’re done here” like seriously I felt like I was doing something wrong because I dealt very little damage with everything and took so much. Just felt more like work than a fun game experience that I had had prior to biome 5. Very disappointing in my opinion
@@agony9872 yep that's when the bs difficulty gets turned up to 10. Agree 100%
Returnal is like a chimera but its just on the brink of becoming a kronenberg
If SEKIRO doesn't get on your wick then you would like this game.
It's nails hard and unfair.
It will get you down BUT when you do beat a boss you are going to feel pretty proud of your badass self
Lol. I actually just beat sekiro last week. One of my favorite games.
Sekiro is a masterpiece and my proudest platinum but this game feels even more unforgiving I just got to biome 3
Is there a mode for this game that has checkpoints..???
I don't think so. It has been a long time since I've played it. I do know they added a way to suspend your progress so you don't have to play through the whole thing in one go. But, once you've beaten a boss, you don't have to play through it again. The game does let you skip through areas you've already beaten. I guess that's some kind of checkpoint system.
This game is a Masterpiece 10/10
I wouldn't go as far as to say 10/10, but it's pretty great. The game froze a bunch during my playthrough, and the story kinda fizzled out at the end for me. Otherwise, I really enjoyed it.
@@Zoznerol they did add a way to pause a run but im not sure what happens if u crash
Returnal is at the top of my list. And I will admit I am a blockbuster guy. I like engaging story's. I like the better than movies aspect of modern games. I have said so many times on my playthrough of returnal. I Love.. and fucking hate this game. I'm about to beat Act 3 now. And I wouldn't have dreamed of a better game to buy with my ps5. It is fucking awesome.
From all the discourse I've seen on this game, it seems as if the console community isn't familiar with the roguelike genre of games. A lot of the negative criticism would be alleviated by just knowing what a roguelike is before playing it.
I agree. This is a very specific kind of game. The promotional material didn't do a good job at explaining this. Most people were expecting a more straightforward action game.
The problem with Returnal is it does not have gyro aimg. i just cant aim with sticks alone.on pc i dont want to use a keyboard. mouse is great. that is why i use mouse gyro.
I've never had an issue aiming with analog sticks. I've been using them since the ps1. It's just natural for me. I like the ps5 controller quite a bit. Makes claw grip very comfortable.
@@Zoznerol The reason i dont like t is because i am very susceptible towards aim assist. I notice that console games aim for me instead of me aiming myself. Some games put your cursor in the emidiate facinity of the nearest anemy when you press the aim down sided trigger. (often the left trigger).
So lets say there is a enymy to my far left. i am not in aiming mode and my crosshair is to the far right of the screen. when i go in to aim down sides mode the game puts the corsair near the enemy. now i only have to move the stick a little to hit the enemy.
That is because you cant aim accurate enough with the sticks. So the game just puts the crosshair near the nearest enemy.
Some games slow down your aiming when you are near an enmy witht the croshair. That is to make sure you dont overshoot the target.
To make a long story short, i dont like the game cheating on my behalve. if i am bad at aiming i want to miss my shots. when i hit an rnrmy i want it to be because i aimed at the enemy all by myself. That is why gyro aiming with aim assist of is the best for me personally. I jsut hope Sony will keep putting it in all AAA first party titles. And if they really have the balls then they would force players to use it in the tutorial, like splatoon does.
Gyro aiming only got populor on switch because Nintendo forced the player to use it in the tutorial in splatoon. More ppeople where exposed to it. People who liked it left it turned on. People who hated it could turn it of. alles Sony has no balls whatsoever and they dont inovate. Just like Nintedo and Microsoft they even refuse to resolve stickdrift, although this has been resolved over 20 years ago by sega. The solution is hall effect sensors and htey are not event hat expensive to implement. I just hope all 3 company''s will inivate more on both gyro aiming and the use of hall effect sensors in the future.
@@caleasthetic quite a few generalizations there, but I get what you're saying. For the most part. I'm fine with or without gyro aiming. I just play whatever the game offers. If the game has it, I use it, if it doesn't, it won't matter to me. I'll enjoye the game regardless. Plenty of games don't have gyro or aim assist, and it hasn't affected my ability to play. Analog sticks are just a effective as a mouse once you've had enough experience with them.
Out-freaking-standing Review/Video my friend! Insightful, Hilarious, and well thought out!
And as the announcer in the Mk series occasionally says: Flawless Victory!
I recently put down the game for good yesterday. I was already playing it once or twice a month as it was, and after getting the Mc-Covie, and on a mandatory vacay, i gave it a try again
I've payed around 37 hours, and while the game is aesthetically pleasing, it is experientially eye-rolling.
I got into the game because of the genre, sci-fi, not rogue-like XD--and grew into the expectations of how the game plays, and how it wants you to play it. That's this game's ultimate demise. It takes itself way too seriously.
It thinks that you're going to continually give it a shot, and open up your entire afternoon for it, and when the weekend comes, your entire saturday morning, and if you failed, your entire saturday afternoon too.
...yeah (insert jj jameson meme...here)
The games fatal flaw is foundational, its the progression-design, to encourage multiple play-throughs so you can level up weapons, and over time, pick up the stats mechanics on your own-and this is accomplished by unbalancing the difficulty of the scenario the game throws at you. For example, difficulty 3,3,6,5,10!!!!
The game just smacks the crap out of you in one or two encounters of the game, and sometimes I truly believe they're unwinnable-and like a casino boss who knows you're gonna come back for more is waiting behind the glass, smiling, tapping their shoes on the floor, waiting for you to put another credit into the machine.
So because we should come from a culture of putting foreward a solution instead of just a criticism, a major way this game could have mitigated its probably 80%-90% player fall-off would have been to include progression quests.
For example, it is very clear the game doesn't want you to beat it in less than 10-14 hours, so you design portions of the game through progression phases (instead of a free-for-all, figure it out on your own as you continue to die), where you can weave in story lore, and story mechanics at the same time. We can learn how the different category of items in the game effect stats and performance. You do this by providing Progression quests for the player to seek out a single or particular item for example.
Through Selene's logs, we can have a holo-room or holo-projection of stalled and incomplete data for an item or area that she needs to explore more fully to understand
This would have been a great mechanic to justify stretching a campaign that should have been beatable in 6-8 hours and stretching it to something of the length of a traditional rpg.
These side-quests would work exactly like the signals of fallen players you find in the maps, or even more structurally embedded in a quest menu. They'd be optional, and prove a progress path to consumable tokens to choose items of your picking, selecting load outs, perma unlocks, or even specialty limited use items like fast travel to a: "settlement" which would grant you temporary start point/access to a biome of your choosing, 3/4 cycles before it's probably destroyed by the fauna and flora. Or just plain cosmetic items like player and weapon skins, turn selene into a zombie, the enemies into clowns, i mean, just something that we can work towards between cycles, that if you’re a true to the death hard core f’ing fan of a rogue-like experience would scoff at but use secretly, fine, but some of us, normies, would want, and thus help keep a healthy populated player envirnment. By the way the daily challenges is a wonderful way to enjoy and bring extra fun the game.
Just as you said, my friend, this was an introduction of a genre to a height that it'd never been raised to, and it truly missed an opportunity to bring in a wider crowd while still satisfying the get-better, hard core, ill give you my entire life if I have to crowd.
Thank you for making this video, it felt like a really cool mini-doc :)
Those are some pretty good ideas. I managed to beat the game fairly quickly, once I got the hang of it, but there was a lot of quitting and starting again if the first vendor didn't have the perfect set of items, or if I didn't get that one gun I liked. It got tedious, but I did enjoy the overall experience.
Just gave it a shot the last couple days due to it being on ps+.
I'm a little mad at myself for not joining the hype at release.
I've been thinking of going back to it. Check out what they've changed since then. I know they added some dlc or something. I really liked the game.
They added the tower an endless mode and coop in the main game also you can now suspend the cycle you can close the game without losing progress but if you die after restarting obviously the cycle will start over
I really enjoyed the gameplay and story, but they shot themselves in the foot with the pricetag and the initial lack of a save feature.
Couldn't agree more.
Insert xenomorphs and checkpoints and you've got the best ALIEN game ever made.
Now that's a good idea right there!
Retrunal I hate it enough not to play it anymore but love it enough not to sell my copy. The save quit feature not from the start was bu ll shit. It's is an awesome game but going back to the beginning ever-time you die sucks. There should have been an option for a boss check point and i would come back.
Thanks for the sub! I kinda feel this video has aged a bit lol. My biggest complaint was the absurd price at launch. Isn't it now free with ps plus? I didn't mind starting from the beginning because it allowed for you to get some good upgrades before warping to the area you've unlocked. But it is fun to play. Great fast twitch action. Reminds me of some of the games I grew up with. For what it's supposed to be, it's very well designed.
the game already on a sale i am waiting for a deep deep discount
Good to hear! I want the game to do well
I gave it a fair enough shot but dropped it after a few hours. Way too hard for me to
I've heard that from plenty of people. It's a fair point. The game is deliberately difficult.
Oh i got it for 15$so I'm lucky i guess. Idk i don't ever pay full price on games. I just won't.
That's a great price for it.
the problem with returnal is it's still full of gamebraking bugs and housemarque doesn't care.
The only bug I encountered was the game crashing a couple of times. Other than that the game ran smoothly for me. What bugs did you encounter?
@@Zoznerol Well, missing items, disappearing weapon traits, locked doors which are the only way out and currently i'm stuck in a room because the teleporter gate isn't working. reached out to housemarque support but no reaction at all from them. i'm fed up with this game.
EDIT: Here's a clip of my latest bug which get me stuck:
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I didn't have any of those issues at all. That really sucks that you did. Were you playing on ps5 or pc?
@@Zoznerol I'm on PS5. Later found out most of this stuff was already posted on reddit 2 years ago but never got fixed. so i guess it was naive from me to expect they care about my support ticket now.
Good video dud.
You’ve earned yourself a sub
Thank you kindly!
I have just given up with this game and sold it, too hard and frustrating for me. I tried.
Sorry to hear that. I had a good time with it.
From your editing, some comments and this video alone I believe we share many common ideas on videogames. I don't fully grasp why you believe that not aining to cater for the broadest range of players possible makes it less of a great game? Like, you see that as a problem while I see it as a quality.
This was my first video of this kind so I may have not have properly communicated myself. Plus, it's kinda not relevant anymore either. My problem was how this game was being treated by Sony. Returnal is a very niche game, but it's being sold as a more standard AAA title. I thought the marketing for it was bad, and the price at launch was a horrible idea. There's lots of people I know that got the game, not really knowing what it is, and hated it. I remember early ads for the game. It looked like some standard action shooter, not a roguelike. I honestly feel Sony trying to sell this to the masses they way that they did was a big mistake.
@@Zoznerol I had absolutely no idea about that. It makes sense they could (and want to) frame it that way but it's a very dumb move. I think it's still relevant though to help me understand why this game flew under the radar - I just got a PS5 with it and as former Binding of Isaac addict I am loving this, and having a very good experience. This perspective + the ps5 shortage/scalping during first release year might explain it better now.
A shame, because like you put it, I doubt a game of this kind will ever be produced. Very very unlikely, but I'm glad we have it.
@Lexxidon this kind of game was never going to gain mass appeal. Not because it isn't amazing, but rather because it was deliberately made for a certain audience. A lot of early reviews I saw kept asking "Who is this game for?" It's for people like us. I'm a huge fan of roguelike games. I've always wanted to play Isaac, but haven't gotten around to it yet. I'm not sure if they wanted a return on investment, but selling this game at a AAA price, like it's a AAA game gave potential buyers the wrong idea. Despite its production value and graphics, Returnal is not a AAA experience. Those games generally cater to the greatest possible number of gamers. Look at Elden Ring, for example. Souls games didn't achieve massive sales until they adopted more AAA traits: the open world, the crafting, the stealth. Returnal was never supposed to be a AAA game. It should not have been sold as one.
The only problem is that character being an old lady absolutely tanked the sales. I don't mind, but it was a poor decision. The game is already not very accesible to the normies...
I'm not sure what impact that really had on the game. I don't think it was a poor decision. I honestly think it was bad marketing that had the biggest effect. Ads for the game at launch didn't do a very good job of communicating what the game really was about. They made the game look more like a standard 3rd person shooter. Either way, the game was never going to sell all that well, given how niche it is.
@@Zoznerol Not sure? There's more than enough evidence, especially in the gaming industry. Your main character's appearance is extremely important. A fast paced, sci-fi 3rd person shooter and they went with an old lesbian math teacher looking mc. YEAH sure, no impact at all. At least the writing is really well done, fits the vibe and all.
@@eduardobenassi3072 old lesbian math teacher?! Not cool. There's no problem whatsoever with the main character of this game. If anyone looks at that as the problem with the game, that says a lot about them. The very fact that you referred to her as looking like a lesbian is a problem in itself. The main character being an older female shouldn't be a problem, sci-fi shooter or otherwise.
@@Zoznerol I get it, you're one of those. Yikes. The problem is America being plagued with borderline mentally impaired morons who get offended by silly stereotypes. I don't even HAVE a PROBLEM with the MC, I'm just pointing out what REALITY is and you don't seem to see it. I didn't make this up. F#ck, you can barely read your own language, apparently. The whole point of my comments just flew over your bird brain. Facepalm into another dimension.
There is no problem with Returnal
There isn't a single game that has no problems. Returnal isn't the exception.
@@Zoznerol returnal is more than a game
@@ShinyRyuji what makes it more that a game? From what I remember, that is all that it is. It's a good one, but still just a game.
@@Zoznerol I said what I said
@@ShinyRyuji you did, but said nothing to back it up. Honestly I'm interested in hearing your opinion. You feel like it's more the just a game. I'd like to know why.
game slaps. the more you do good the enemies keeps getting harder on the fly. i've played a lot of online game that has matchmaking goes against you always this one has same feeling. It wants you to die. i like the game but i got 3 decades of game backlogs i just cant waste time like this
In all honesty you can beat the game in a single sitting.
@@Zoznerol im more of a mouse and keyboard shooter guy my skill wont translate properly on controller. I'd give this a try again once out on PC. I'd call Souls-like, DOOM & APEX LEGENDS more "Fun" and REWARDING than this Game though, Still a good game. and recommended
@@qwerty6789x I can totally get that. I've been playing with a controller all my life. It's much more natural to me.
@@Zoznerol I changed my opinion.. I took my time learning the controller and tone down the flicking habits i have from Mouse & Keyboard. It took me a while to improved but i reached the undersea Biome. This game is addicting and FUN! its so underrated and it deserved more attention. I'd say this is my GOTY contender
@@qwerty6789x glad to hear it. I must admit, I've never actually used a mouse and keyboard for a game in my life. The few times I've played a game on a PC, I've used a controller. I've always been a lay down on the bed with three pillows to recline kinda gamer. Consoles since childhood. Sitting on a chair in front of a monitor just isn't comfy for me.
retrunal is definitely a must have…
the problem is there is no problem 🙂
I encountered a few problems. The game froze on me several times. When I played it, it has no save feature. And, that price was a bit steep at launch.
@@Zoznerol I luckily only started playing it a few months ago well after the patch.
Only real problem I found was lack of instructions what to expect. I'm good at games and this was really hard at the beginning
@@icey1981 I didn't have this problem. I knew the game was a roguelike, so I knew what to expect
i feel like people hate on this game because its like dark souls but more punishing
It's not like dark souls and it's not punishing. Returnal tries its best to be a roguelike-soulslike hybrid, but, problem is, the devs, apparently, aren't aware what makes a roguelike, well, roguelike and soulslike, well, soulslike. You can finish the game extremely fast, easily under 10 hours, there is no variety and there is no replayability, which makes it a bad rougelike. Meanwhile, for a soulslike its combat system is not that interesting and the game itself is not that hardcore - it's tedious and annoying at best.
Once you realize this game is basically like doom eternal but in third person you'll start playing much better. Never stay still, always be moving and shooting use your traversal abilities and melee all the time.. hell you have unlimited ammo just clear out areas fully etc... Once that clicks it's basically game over and you'll wonder why you struggled to begin with.
Really reaching for that 10min mark
Not really. I say what I want to say. If it happens to run long, so be it.
I’ve yet to find a roguelike game it I’ve liked and beat. That genre is just 100% not for me, and this time I think I’ve tried my last roguelike and won’t be wasting my time with others. I don’t have the patience to play the same opening sequence over and over again until I master ever last detail and can make a deep run. It’s not what I personally enjoy in games; I like the progression aspect of games. I like investing in virtual worlds and enjoying the tangible fruits of my investment. Returnal didn’t do it for me. It was fascinating for a few but I quickly got bored and had no desire to play it. It didn’t hook me at all
I am a fan of the genre. It reminds me a bit of the kind of games I grew up with. But I can see how it's not for everyone. What are your favorite kinds of games?
This is going to be my next game. I just need to find the mola to justify it to my wife. :/
It's definitely a worthy purchase if you are into this type of game.
@@Zoznerol I've been camping out on Risk of Rain 2 for years. I think this will be a nice bridge from full roguelite to RPG.
@@RyanKudasik I've heard good things about that game. I'll probably pick it up one day.
I'm playing it on pc and now you can suspend and quit. Didn't know that wasn't in the game lol so annoying.
Nope. It was either do it all in one go, or put the ps5 in rest mode until you can continue playing. It essentially meant doing a 3+hr run in a single sitting.
with so many deaths, i'm sometimes asking myself if did anybody actually finish the game and what kind of beast those players that actually had the nerves to get to the end 😂😂😂
That's definitely understandable. It requires some good reflexes to make it through this game!
Beat it in 19 hours👍
I gave it a shot but it wouldn't grow on me. I'm part of that try hard get good squad souls games across the board😂
Hello fellow tryhard! We must all band together against the casuls!
@@Zoznerol I'd say the main factor it didn't grow on my was all the glowing blue neon font all over the place, same like cyberpunk with all the glowing red font.
I can see that getting annoying. That whole neoncore apocalypse aesthetic thing! There are points that it borders on sensory overload.
Zoz did u agree with who said Returnal didnt deserve 70$
And its not pretty good game ?
Returnal is great, for what it is. If you're a fan of really hard games, like old NES kinda hard, it's definitely worth the $70. But, I don't recommend it unless someone knows they like these types of games. It's kinda brutal. And fast. Reminds me of playing Mega Man.
@@Zoznerol its souls game with guns lol
Shoud not be so hard ..video games for fun and what we found it its really hard for many ppl to deal with
@@mohammedalhazmi7178 Souls games are a different difficulty. They require patience. Returnal is a reflex and dexterity kinda hard. Cuphead kinda hard.
@@mohammedalhazmi7178 I love the difficulty in Returnal and From Software games.
To each their own.
i would say this game feels like risk of rain 2 but worse gameplay with better graphics
A dark ratchet and clank with perma death😂
I'll take your word for it. I've never played Ratchet and Clank.
The Returnal experiment failed at that price point end of story thanks for your video
souls fans who want to use a gun will buy this. game. my only negative taught is that the game is hella short. fucking sony, could go to 10 acts minimum? wtf?! the game is sweet but VERY SHORT!!!
The game is rather short, but I don't see a real resemblance to Souls games at all. While both are challenging, they don't really have anything in common.
@@Zoznerol haha. Invulnerable dodge, few hits dead back to bonfire ship, big ass bosses, overcomplicated lore, minimal tutorial. I mean comon... Thats the soul of a soul game 🎮 🙌 😌. Oh i forgot the rage delete 7% of players killed the first boss part. Lol. Souuuuls!!!!
@@maximepivi those things do not make a Souls game. This does not play like any Souls-type game. The gameplay has more in common with a shooter from the 90's. The combat is reflex based. Souls combat is more timing based. Going back to the start of the game does not make it Souls like. Nor does the fact that is it challenging. And plenty of other games have a dodge. That does not make it one either. This game has more in common with Ikaruga than it ever will with a Souls game. I could not disagree less.
@@Zoznerol to each its own opinion. Fare enough
I got the game on sale and it s just too insane to play a game with no checkpoints and saves. I m about to delete it.
🤣
clearly not a rogue like fan
try save scumming instead
10 hours in and I am still stuck in biome 1/2.
This game is doodoo.
I liked it, but I like rogue-likes. I can understand that some people might not.
It pains me to admit that I only got until the 5th biome and could never finish it until doing multiplayer :(
It was simply too hard for me to finish given only the chance to start from the 4th biome
It was only a single player game when I played it. I should check out that multiplayer. What's it like?
You got farther than I did. I never reached the boss of the first biome.
Try Demons Souls its even more pain
Lol. I've been playing Souls games for a decade now, so I'm used to them. Regardless, Returnal is a different kind of challenge than those games. Its difficulty is reflex based, whereas Souls games are more about patience, rhythm, and timing. And, compared to the other Souls games released since then, Demon's is not all that difficult. The gameplay is a bit different than a typical arpg, so there's difficulty in adjusting to it. Returnal is more like something that isn't all that common nowadays, an 8bit side scrolling action game. But it's in 3D. It felt very familiar to me, but those kind of reflexes are not required out of too many games today.
$70 isn’t a lot for a game tbh
Yes it is.
Easy mode mods lol
Hey, it's your money. You bought the game. Play it however you see fit.
I got it; 3/10 in my book. And it has been reported 10% finished Act 3. That’s poor design.
I actually assumed this video was intended as sarcasm. I assumed it would have concluded by the guy saying only joking, the game is amazing and will go down as a classic and one of the most memorable games for the generation. Returnal is a game that sticks with you.
I don't think any ps5 game is worth £60 or 70 dollars. Even when GTA6 comes out I'll wait till it goes down in price. The most expensive game I bought for my ps5 was probably about £23-28 and even the £28 game would have been less because I traded in a game and got money off. I think I traded in Remedy's Control and bought a pre owned copy of the Dead Space remake because I wanted less cross gen games and more games built for the current gen systems to get the best out of my ps5.My best games were all under £20 including Returnal.🤷
ill tell you the problem...starting from the beginning of the fukin game every time u die...there
Lol that's not the problem with the game at all, if you're aware of what this kind of game is about. Roguelikes have you die a lot by design.
You should have a more subscribers....I've been on the fence honestly my criteria for most of my ps5 games have to push the limits visually.
I wanted to purchase it but the 69.99 got a first class ticket to the wishlist. I understand that creating & developing video games for a mass quantity of people is not easy by any means. I've been burned too many times by AAA devs with their budget & lack of passion.
I plan to buy it one day...it's screams my personality but I'm not willing to buy any next Gen for more than 49.99. I just can't knowing the DLC will have the rest of what should have been in there from start. Plus the bugs and other issues it's a not worth it honestly and a bit ridiculous.... Cool looking game though
Try looking for pre owns, managed to snag it for 45 bones at my local gamestop last week lul