The wargamers who won a real war

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    In World War Two, WATU was formed to test convoy escort tactics in the Battle of the Atlantic, using wargaming. The results were palpable.
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  • @leaphchausew7277
    @leaphchausew7277 3 роки тому +626

    The Admiral who lost to a rating demonstrated supreme leadership when they swallowed their pride and implemented the rating’s strategy. The ability to abandon hubris is a quality many leaders have lacked and paid dearly for.

    • @megalonrulez
      @megalonrulez 3 роки тому +34

      A quality required to be a great leader.

    • @leonardreder9412
      @leonardreder9412 2 роки тому +33

      just wrote basically the same comment, feeling smart about myself. then i saw yours, a year earlier and better written ^^

    • @bryanbufton
      @bryanbufton Рік тому +5

      @@leonardreder9412 I was writing the same. Great minds think

    • @The_ZeroLine
      @The_ZeroLine Рік тому +2

      They later had that rating quietly killed.

    • @howdypotowty
      @howdypotowty Рік тому +4

      RE: Japanese admiralty re:battle of midway preparations. A junior officer predicted a north eastern attack from the US fleet that defeated the Japanese fleet, but the admirals insisted only SOUTH eastern, since they couldn't conceive being surprised by a NE approach (which would only work as a surprise attack, with the SE approach being best for an anticipated attack).

  • @Khobotov
    @Khobotov 5 років тому +1227

    "They didn't expect France to go *blargh* in a matter of weeks."
    I guess neither did the Germans.

    • @declanedmison5442
      @declanedmison5442 4 роки тому +100

      “Holy shit, we actually took France that fast?”

    • @zincoleo1
      @zincoleo1 4 роки тому +30

      @@declanedmison5442 France actually got experienced at being Germany's punching bag.

    • @Vlad_Tepes_III
      @Vlad_Tepes_III 4 роки тому +41

      @@declanedmison5442 "The same France that held on for so long in the last war?!?"

    • @sigma5088
      @sigma5088 4 роки тому +10

      @@realMaverickBuckley The French fail to agree on anything. Consider this: Hitler could have been French.

    • @siva4wotblitzhero531
      @siva4wotblitzhero531 4 роки тому +12

      @@sigma5088 Well in our Timeline he *wasnt* of French Descent from what we know

  • @jameshorn270
    @jameshorn270 6 років тому +223

    Regarding the success of the teenage girls, my own experience suggests that they were 'thinking outside the box" because they did not even know the box existed. For the experienced commanders like the admiral, the box was big and solid and it took a great deal of effort to get oustide it.

    • @The_ZeroLine
      @The_ZeroLine Рік тому +16

      100%. just look at Henry Kaiser who had never built a ship before WWII: the existing shipbuilding experts said that they could only produce about half a dozen cruisers per year max and Kaiser managed to build hundreds or more per year where they thought only a handful was possible using ideas they couldn’t even imagine.

    • @jonaskoelker
      @jonaskoelker Рік тому +24

      There's a saying about generals always fighting the previous war. I reckon that's the box.

    • @himemjam
      @himemjam 11 місяців тому

      @@jonaskoelker The box is much bigger than that. Most military organizations are conservative in the true sense of that word. Just look at the Regimental standard of any British regiment. You'll see battle honors going back hundreds of years in some cases. They honor and revere their ("glorious, victorious!') history since the lessons learned come at a very high cost. Add to that the fact that most of these organizations are the very definition of "top down". Military discipline tends to value obedience and punish or ignore at best innovation. Most hew closely to institutional memory and reward close alignment with orthodoxy...UNTIL they get an order like "Set Europe ablaze" and then that same institutional memory can yield examples where orthodoxy failed - "Boer Kommandos" or if you go even further back "Maroons of Jamaica", as well as the mavericks (T.E. Lawrence, Orde Wingate, David Stirling or Robert Laycock) that can innovate.

    • @himemjam
      @himemjam 11 місяців тому +1

      @@The_ZeroLine Excellent example!

  • @Schugger1
    @Schugger1 6 років тому +624

    Well, that is actually what makes a good commander - being able to recognize a good strategy and forget about your enormous ego and put that strategy to work (despite being arse-kicked by an eighteen year old school girl in a simulation five times).

    • @jeric_synergy8581
      @jeric_synergy8581 5 років тому +53

      Too bad Admiral King couldn't put his fucking ego in the closet: those tonnage numbers after the US joined might have been a bit smaller.

    • @sonofthewolfguardianofthef1214
      @sonofthewolfguardianofthef1214 4 роки тому +20

      jeric_ synergy well WATU didn’t exist before the war and operation Raspberry wasn’t invented until 1942 and the Americans needed to move a lot of stuff more than all of the other allies combined up until that point not only did they need to transport their own stuff but stuff for the British and the Free armies and even Russia so no you’re wrong you can’t swallow your pride and implement a tactic that doesn’t even exist

    • @Phantomrasberryblowe
      @Phantomrasberryblowe 4 роки тому +11

      Robert Bennett
      Nobody was asking King to implement a tactic that didn’t exist. They asking him to do _simple, basic things._

    • @therealuncleowen2588
      @therealuncleowen2588 4 роки тому +9

      King got a lot of men killed due to his ego. May he rot in hell.

    • @jimmytehgeek
      @jimmytehgeek 4 роки тому +1

      @@jeric_synergy8581 A brilliant incompetent

  • @ianmacfarlane1241
    @ianmacfarlane1241 6 років тому +3499

    To summarise :
    WW2 Nazi Germany Naval Commanders were incredibly sneaky bastards.......
    ..........however, they weren't anywhere near as sneaky as British teenage girls.

    • @puppetmasterey
      @puppetmasterey 6 років тому +53

      Ian Macfarlane is about the story telling not the summary.

    • @itechflagstaff
      @itechflagstaff 6 років тому +149

      That still holds true today.

    • @thomasraahauge5231
      @thomasraahauge5231 6 років тому +90

      For those who had zero first hand experience with how to deal with teenage girls: You know *nothing* Jon Snow!

    • @Debilitator47
      @Debilitator47 6 років тому +113

      Nothing is as sneaky as a teenaged girl.

    • @thomasraahauge5231
      @thomasraahauge5231 6 років тому +65

      Almighty: Behave yourself!

  • @JohnDoe-on6ru
    @JohnDoe-on6ru 5 років тому +539

    -"Stop playing video games!"
    -"I'M TRAINING FOR WAR MOM LEAVE ME ALONE!!!!!"

    • @auxencefromont1989
      @auxencefromont1989 4 роки тому +21

      It depend of the video game, if its wargame red dragon or Command modern operarions i believe you, if its call of duty, i don t

    • @michaeledmunds7266
      @michaeledmunds7266 4 роки тому +2

      @@auxencefromont1989 I play PlanetSide, does that count?

    • @auxencefromont1989
      @auxencefromont1989 4 роки тому

      @@michaeledmunds7266 it depends, i would say that if you lead a squad, it count.

    • @JohnDoe-on6ru
      @JohnDoe-on6ru 4 роки тому +5

      @@auxencefromont1989 lol wargame red dragon? C:MO yes but RD no

    • @tomsoki5738
      @tomsoki5738 4 роки тому

      Arma?

  • @mgytitanic1912
    @mgytitanic1912 4 роки тому +157

    In all seriousness, if you wrote to the Prince Phillip asking for an interview to talk him about his time in the RN, and WATU, I think he'd grant it. People seem to forget that he was a very able commander, highly decorated and very successful with a very distinguished career.

    • @diogenesesenna9323
      @diogenesesenna9323 3 роки тому +26

      I agree with you completely. People forget that for all of his supposed Royalty, Prince Philip (Single L) is very down to earth and it isn't unknown for him to grant such an interview, especially since he could well be the last survivor.

    • @mgytitanic1912
      @mgytitanic1912 3 роки тому +6

      @@diogenesesenna9323 That extra L was auto correct I suspect. The risks of using one's phone.

    • @frykasj
      @frykasj 3 роки тому +20

      Unfortunately, I'm sure that's not going to happen now...

    • @dELTA13579111315
      @dELTA13579111315 3 роки тому +22

      @@frykasj time to pull out the ouija board

    • @kermitofficial9428
      @kermitofficial9428 3 роки тому +4

      Welll, at least one hoped

  • @The_MightyJingles
    @The_MightyJingles 6 років тому +779

    If you ever read "Churchills' Ministry of Ungentlemanly Warfare" by Giles Milton it tells the story, amongst other things, of the bonkers mad genius who invented the Hedgehog. By an astounding coincidence there's even an Audible version.

    • @wheelfan100
      @wheelfan100 6 років тому +9

      The Mighty Jingles WTF FOUND DOUG DEMURO OH JANGLE

    • @chrisbullock3504
      @chrisbullock3504 6 років тому +11

      OMG JINGLES!!! i cant believe i saw you here. Have been subbed to you since you were less than 100k

    • @DC9622
      @DC9622 6 років тому +5

      The Mighty Jingles , excellent book, also Churchill’s secret weapons by Patrick Delaforce is good where they the toy box helped with the funnies, the AVRE was a marvel. Also think it is on Audible, at lot of Delaforce books are.

    • @X3105i
      @X3105i 6 років тому +3

      Sigh back to the salt mines you it is.

    • @ADDuk19
      @ADDuk19 6 років тому +1

      I was going to suggest the same book.

  • @guyrandom9095
    @guyrandom9095 6 років тому +235

    4:36 "You can see that one of the members was rather unusual in that she had a red circle around her head".

  • @Iraski
    @Iraski 6 років тому +204

    I was thinking while watching this how a wargaming group would be a great thing to write a military scifi novel around, but then I realized that's basically what Ender's Game is.

    • @competent5761
      @competent5761 3 роки тому +1

      @WhomItMayConcern *Confusion*

    • @ahandgrenade3640
      @ahandgrenade3640 3 роки тому +1

      @WhomItMayConcern ????

    • @o0hbomb0o
      @o0hbomb0o 2 роки тому +12

      With the crucial twist being that Ender and the squad of fellow kids Ender was leading in a war game turned out to literally be remotely piloting real human ships; guiding them to eventually obliterate the Bug homeworld and living queen.

    • @darren561
      @darren561 2 роки тому +9

      @@o0hbomb0o Imagine if they decided to do a little trolling since they thought it was just a fake simulation.

    • @o0hbomb0o
      @o0hbomb0o 2 роки тому +14

      @@darren561 Oh man! Your comment reminds me of playing StarCraft online multiplayer with my friends in highschool. I was quite aweful while some of my friends were exceptional players. I got trolled all the time when we played together. If the units we controlled in those games were real, my friends would have been guilty of numerous war crimes. I'm also sure that mutiny and defection would have been rife among my ranks of soldiers.

  • @johndominicamabile
    @johndominicamabile 4 роки тому +64

    "There was a major failure of imagination" -History of every government ever

  • @QemeH
    @QemeH 5 років тому +103

    16:15 - "The first person to see it becomes the coordinator."
    That's actually how high seas emergencies are handled today. There is a chilling record of the sinking of a passenger ship in the north sea, where everybody is searching for a ship that sends a distress call but isn't responding. And then as soon as one ship reports having eyes on, all other vessels one by one go: "[coordinator], this is the [ship name], we're X miles out, approaching from the west." and so on...

  • @juryrigged1654
    @juryrigged1654 6 років тому +92

    So, does that mean Warhammer 40k is just us trying to get an preemptive leg up on Xeno scum?

    • @Holuunderbeere
      @Holuunderbeere 3 роки тому +5

      Yesn't

    • @dwwolf4636
      @dwwolf4636 Рік тому

      So is Reddit/HFY

    • @Digitaaliklosetti
      @Digitaaliklosetti Рік тому

      Yep. If it ever turns out aliens all like to have big dumb land war slugging matches on planets, we're ready for 'em.

  • @ze_rubenator
    @ze_rubenator 6 років тому +463

    You should absolutely ask him for an interview. I don't imagine Prince Phillip gets a lot of requests for this sort of an interview.

    • @gahane
      @gahane 5 років тому +45

      I agree. He's retired now and might enjoy talking about this. I'd edit out the Phil the Greek bit tho

    • @masterson0713
      @masterson0713 5 років тому

      @@gahane who is he?

    • @gahane
      @gahane 5 років тому +3

      @@masterson0713 Who is who? Phil the Greek?

    • @masterson0713
      @masterson0713 5 років тому +1

      @@gahane yeah and the other guy

    • @gahane
      @gahane 5 років тому +21

      @@masterson0713 Prince Philip and Phil the Greek are one and the same. To give him a better title, Prince Philip, Duke of Edinburgh, Consort to Her Royal Highness Queen Elizabeth II of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. Basically, he's the husband of the English Queen. He's known also by his nickname Phil the Greek as he was born in Greece to the Greek royal family.

  • @jeffmci16
    @jeffmci16 6 років тому +746

    This is exactly why I wargame. So when the Emperor calls I can lead his Adeptes Astartes to victory!

  • @latt.qcd9221
    @latt.qcd9221 4 роки тому +745

    4:50
    So, school girl shows up in your her school uniform and then becomes one of the most effective military analysts of WWII.
    So, in other words, WWII was an anime.

    • @jonkelly7908
      @jonkelly7908 4 роки тому +56

      Luckily the Germans didn't have Tanya Degurechaff in WWI.

    • @TheBayzent
      @TheBayzent 4 роки тому +14

      Yes, this was clear to me before I discovered the existence of W.A.T.U.

    • @pinkbunny6272
      @pinkbunny6272 4 роки тому +8

      Or is anime inspired by ww2?

    • @jkh77
      @jkh77 4 роки тому +40

      My name is Jean Laidlaw-chan and I'm late for my first day of defeating the Germans!

    • @sigma5088
      @sigma5088 4 роки тому +18

      @@pinkbunny6272 Yeah. Its called "Two Nukes, One Japan".

  • @malsypright
    @malsypright 6 років тому +254

    Imagine having to live with a red circle around your head at all times...
    Jesus knows what it's like having a white circle, which is probably quite similar...

    • @orlock20
      @orlock20 5 років тому +9

      Not only that, the red circle has been known to be the red circle of misfortune when it comes to videos.

  • @booradley1138
    @booradley1138 6 років тому +113

    In the book The Battle of the Atlantic by Andrew Williams, here is the reason given for the flap:
    "'You would be told the time, visibility, and speed of the convoy, and you could see through a little cubby-hole in the booth the distribution of the ships...' When an imaginary night fell, the flap was dropped over the window and the escort officers had to rely on the chits sent by the WATU staff and their own record of the convoy's movements." (p. 205)
    The flap was to simulate night-time conditions, when the commanders wouldn't be able to see the locations of the ships, but would have to rely on radio communication only.

    • @michaelsommers2356
      @michaelsommers2356 2 роки тому +1

      I think the explanation in the video is more likely. In your explanation, during "daylight" the players would have perfect intelligence, including the positions of the U-boats. Perhaps there were two flaps: one colored as in the video, and one black, to simulate night.

    • @booradley1138
      @booradley1138 2 роки тому +1

      @@michaelsommers2356 I am quoting Andrew Williams, who is quoting Lt. Comm. John Guest, who actually ran the game in 1943. It's not "my explanation," it's the explanation of the actual participants.

    • @michaelsommers2356
      @michaelsommers2356 2 роки тому

      @@booradley1138 It still seems unlikely that the players were given perfect intelligence during simulated daylight. No matter who said it.
      It's your explanation in the sense that it is the explanation you presented, as distinguished by the explanation in the video.

    • @booradley1138
      @booradley1138 2 роки тому

      @@michaelsommers2356 The players were explicitly not given perfect information during daylight. The explanation I presented never claimed that players had perfect information during daylight. The explanation I presented was strictly limited to the purpose of the flap.

    • @michaelsommers2356
      @michaelsommers2356 2 роки тому

      @@booradley1138 If the flap was only used to simulate night, then when gaming a daylight scenario the flap would not be used, and the players could see everything.

  • @safehavenonice6431
    @safehavenonice6431 5 років тому +40

    "...Rather unusual in that she had a red circle [drawn] around her head."
    This. This is why you're one of the most entertaining people on UA-cam.

  • @khankrumgaming8926
    @khankrumgaming8926 5 років тому +35

    I love how explosions under water work. So counter intuitive it's hard to grasp for some. The damage is being done by the water rushing back to fill the area of gas created by the explosion. The little bomblets from the hedgehog are not what does the damage to a U-boat. They make a big bubble right on the surface of the U-boat by creating pressure higher than the water pressure, but as the chemical reaction slows down and the gas is cooled, the water pressure overwhelms it and begins to rush back very quickly. The boat's hull obviously didn't go anywhere so it isn't moving, it's just sitting there "waiting" for several tons of water to hit it at speed determined by the size of the bubble and difference in pressure. The hedgehog doesn't need a shape-charge to have a shape-charge like effect. It's penetration is always proportional to the depth the thing it hits is at.

    • @xerothedarkstar
      @xerothedarkstar 2 роки тому +7

      Isn't that called "cavitation"? Sort of the same effect a pistol shrimp uses? Just for clarification. My thought trains run on odd rails.

    • @clankplusm
      @clankplusm Рік тому +7

      @@xerothedarkstar Yes but also no. Cavitation, technically is when a cavity becomes created in a liquid (usually water) containing nothing but water vapour, usually by movement in the water exceeding its ability to flow (sort of). This can be very much compared to the act of boiling water by reducing air pressure around it as the thermodynamic principles are very much similar... An underwater explosion actually is a concentration of gas expanding and displacing the water, so it is not actually cavitation (Not completely at least. There may be some cavitation forces involved as the gas contracts). However, the effects of cavitation are incredibly similar to this effect as once the inertia / energy of the explosion gives out it collapses. The main difference is in a cavitation bubble collapse there is a micro jet of water formed if it is against a surface (look up cavitation wear for boat / ship propellers theres cool diagrams on that) which I *Think* cannot fully form in a pressure bubble collapse. There is also the fact that in a cavitation bubble there is no gas left behind, of course,

  • @MajesticDemonLord
    @MajesticDemonLord 6 років тому +425

    Imagine if all of Lindy's subscribers wrote to Buckingham Palace and asked if the Duke of Edinburgh would grant Lindy an Audience to record (for historical record) the WATU training.
    if 630,000 people contact them, I'm sure they might entertain the idea.

    • @Jablicek
      @Jablicek 5 років тому +25

      Given how hard he fought for a position of value and meaning within his role, he might be up for it. Then again, given his current health, maybe not.
      The worst thing that could happen is the question is asked and the answer is no.

    • @vospersb.thorneycroft602
      @vospersb.thorneycroft602 5 років тому +2

      Well unfortunately he might find himself up in the Tower of London on the rack being turned into a center for the LA Lakers🙄☺️

    • @novaiscool1
      @novaiscool1 4 роки тому +2

      @Marry Christmas you never know old people like to talk about their younger years. Plus what else is he doing with his time, knitting?

    • @DaveScurlock
      @DaveScurlock 4 роки тому +2

      Fun fact: I used to work in the PSO answering HM’s mail! Good times

    • @tomsoki5738
      @tomsoki5738 4 роки тому +1

      Dave Scurlock do they actually pass any on to the queen? Or does she not see any of it

  • @NefariousKoel
    @NefariousKoel 6 років тому +63

    Tom Clancy ran a similar double-blind & referee'd wargame, including a chain of command, to determine the outcome of the Soviet cruise missile attack on the American Carrier Battle Group for his book 'Red Storm Rising'. Using Larry Bond's 'Harpoon' tabletop wargame back in the '80s. Interesting stuff.

    • @ineednochannelyoutube5384
      @ineednochannelyoutube5384 6 років тому +5

      Wait. Harpoon was tabletop before it was a compuitergame?

    • @NefariousKoel
      @NefariousKoel 6 років тому +10

      I need no channel youtube -- Yes, Harpoon was originally a tabletop game created by Larry Bond back in the 80s.
      I first picked up the GDW version, as a kid, back in the '80s. Later got a couple Clash Of Arms versions in the 90s. I don't think they're currently in print nowadays, but I still have a CoA version.

    • @ineednochannelyoutube5384
      @ineednochannelyoutube5384 6 років тому +2

      +NefariousKoel You learn something new every day. I do doubt the tabletop approaches the complexity of the program though. They do train real military personelle with it afterall.

    • @ineednochannelyoutube5384
      @ineednochannelyoutube5384 6 років тому +4

      +SwissArmy1984 Command is overpriced and poorly optimized, and its simulation is shallow. Harpoon is better.

  • @Zajuts149
    @Zajuts149 5 років тому +55

    Horror movie reveal: "The U-boat is attacking us from inside the convoy!"

  • @johnmarshall9604
    @johnmarshall9604 3 роки тому +98

    And now none remain who attended WATU. May His Royal Highness rest in peace.

    • @dELTA13579111315
      @dELTA13579111315 3 роки тому +8

      I thought about W.A.T.U. when I heard the news

  • @mrmegahousefly
    @mrmegahousefly 6 років тому +64

    Queen Elizabeth II is the only head of state who is married to a stoker.
    I read that at the beginning of the War, Phillip Mountbatten was returning to Britain. The stokers deserted and Phillip Mountbatten was one of the Naval personnel who volunteered to keep the ship's fires burning.
    Those of you have been in the armed forces know what it is to volunteer in any of the services.
    Please ask HRH for an interview. He seems like a fun guy.

    • @markfryer9880
      @markfryer9880 5 років тому

      Nobody Important Well he has enjoyed stoking the flames of controversy over the years, saying things to the media which should not have been said. I wonder where he learnt that from?

    • @nolategame6367
      @nolategame6367 5 років тому +3

      Mountbatten?!

    • @khankrum1
      @khankrum1 5 років тому +2

      Phillip earned his spurs and medals, unlike his waste of space son Charles!

    • @rudolfpeterudo3100
      @rudolfpeterudo3100 5 років тому

      As the saying goes "once a stoker always a stoker". From an ex RAN stoker

    • @danial469
      @danial469 5 років тому

      such that blood drinker off

  • @markrussell4449
    @markrussell4449 6 років тому +47

    Did we all get invited out to lunch with Lindy?

  • @Halorym
    @Halorym 5 років тому +28

    "He was charging at it when his stern blew up" ...Clever girl.

  • @gavindalrymple4309
    @gavindalrymple4309 5 років тому +9

    I remember reading HMS Ulysses, in one sitting, some time in the mid 1970’s. I only put the book aside once that Australian summer’s day. The story had drawn me into its world so convincingly that I went searching for a jumper to wear.

  • @desertedmindscape6829
    @desertedmindscape6829 6 років тому +49

    You really should try contacting the palace and asking for an interview. Maybe team up with some of the historian's restoring the western approaches command. Its a part of the nation and his own personal history that is in danger of being lost so he might say yes.

  • @dannyhussain5489
    @dannyhussain5489 6 років тому +46

    I've written a letter to Prince Philip asking him to consider having an interview for the benefit of the audience and historic posterity regarding the WATU

  • @teucer915
    @teucer915 4 роки тому +29

    The WATU story deserves an entire book about it. I would totally read that.

  • @trequor
    @trequor 6 років тому +204

    I guess Ender's Game isnt that hard to believe

    • @MerlijnDingemanse
      @MerlijnDingemanse 6 років тому +38

      Well I mean in the book they literally take one of the smartest kids to ever exist and put him through years of brutal training. So yes, I say it could happen. As for the soviet union 2.0 the book describes its a bit less realistic

    • @stevetheradroach2433
      @stevetheradroach2433 4 роки тому

      No

    • @OwenMichtofen-rx5yz
      @OwenMichtofen-rx5yz 4 роки тому +3

      Exactly what I thought! Great book from my memory

    • @marsfreelander5969
      @marsfreelander5969 4 роки тому +7

      Movie was shit

    • @adeisinger2033
      @adeisinger2033 3 роки тому +3

      @@marsfreelander5969 ender game series except for the end it gets a bit strange

  • @loreman2803
    @loreman2803 6 років тому +573

    Wouldn’t war gamers have the bonus of being able to fail and learn without losing a whole country

    • @MrGabol100
      @MrGabol100 6 років тому +142

      I think that's the point.

    • @wobblysauce
      @wobblysauce 6 років тому +61

      That is the pointy end of it.

    • @HadToChangeMyName_YoutubeSucks
      @HadToChangeMyName_YoutubeSucks 6 років тому +33

      Only in theory. Not saying it's not a good thing to wargame, our military is constantly wargaming, we even game out wars with (currently) friendly nations, but reality doesn't really always cooperate with your wargaming simulations.

    • @martinez206045
      @martinez206045 6 років тому +4

      But wouldn't that just mean that the other side has better strategists?

    • @washingtonradio
      @washingtonradio 6 років тому +43

      The major idea is to be able to see what the issues for the various strategic options are for a given political situations. The major weaknesses of wargaming is the imagination of the gamers and the quality of the information used to develop the scenarios.

  • @kharnthebetrayer8251
    @kharnthebetrayer8251 6 років тому +181

    Wait a minute. She was told she'd be spending the war playing games, and burst into tears?
    That's like the best job ever.
    Away from the actual danger of the war, you play war games all day, and actually help contribute to the tactics of the armies.

    • @wobblysauce
      @wobblysauce 6 років тому +56

      But some did not think of it as helping/participating.

    • @wigris2961
      @wigris2961 6 років тому +17

      Kharn The Betrayer maybe it was the relief that she wasnt about to face war

    • @thomasraahauge5231
      @thomasraahauge5231 6 років тому +83

      Kharn: Well, wargaming had earned little - if any - succes at that time, and the prospect of spending the war playing with toy ships would have been dreadful to a young woman who just wanted to do her best to join the war efford.
      Imagine comming home to the boarding house and have souper. The girl next to you has been manufactoring bombs or airplanes, growing crops, cutting down trees, plowing, stitching up wounded bomb raid survivors, and you sit their in your pristine and neatly ironed uniform, and has to explain that you have been busy playing with tiny ships on a concrete floor. Not much fun when you literally just left school.

    • @TheSerbianEmperor
      @TheSerbianEmperor 6 років тому +23

      Thomas Raahauge
      WATU was highly confidential during the war I believe, so you couldn't even explain that much.

    • @thomasraahauge5231
      @thomasraahauge5231 6 років тому +10

      TheEmperor: Well, that is true. And said young woman would probably not have any problems with keeping her work a secret, but for the purpose of the conversation (sitting in her school uniform, surrounded by men in uniforms), the thought of her war efford being toy ship handling could - at least at first glance - be less than joyfull.

  • @itiscujo
    @itiscujo 3 роки тому +31

    8:18 And now there are none left alive who've been through that course.
    RIP Prince Philip

  • @Trotskyification
    @Trotskyification 6 років тому +25

    This was a fascinating lecture - had me gripped from beginning to end. Thank you for informing me about something I was unaware of before.

  • @SebastianHonsa
    @SebastianHonsa 6 років тому +37

    It doesn't happen too often for me to learn something new about U-boats. But here we go! Thank you, Lindy.

    • @neilwilson5785
      @neilwilson5785 6 років тому +2

      I'm a big fan of this channel, but I think this might be the best thing Lloyd has done. Let's wait for the Duke of Edinburgh to confirm....

  • @PwnzratorX7X
    @PwnzratorX7X 6 років тому +34

    Unfortunately my battle plans don't work out so well without a horde of psykers.

    • @wigris2961
      @wigris2961 6 років тому

      Andrew Backfisch if only :/

    • @adambielen8996
      @adambielen8996 6 років тому

      That sound heretical to me. Unless you have the appropriate Commissars or Overseers in place to "protect" the psykers.

    • @edmundscycles1
      @edmundscycles1 6 років тому +1

      Andrew Backfisch what do you think the side effects of drinking tea are ! Read any book on British military operations in WWII and you will spot a theme . Things got better after a mug of tea.

    • @adambielen8996
      @adambielen8996 6 років тому

      Christopher Bertoli I think exterminatus is friendlier to the planet than your idea.

  • @josephking7948
    @josephking7948 4 роки тому +33

    Thank you for informing me about W.A.T.U. I had never heard of them before despite a long interest in WWII history. At the end of your video you mention how brave the RN commanders must have been to go and try the new tactic devised by the 18 year old school girls but the always seems to be very little mentioned about the thousands of Merchant Marine sailors who were jammed into overloaded, over insured rust buckets and when their ship was sunk all they had were the clothes they were wearing and oh yes, their pay stopped the minute their ship was sunk.
    Please mention those poor brave sadly neglected non military warriors of the war. Thank you.

    • @stormywindmill
      @stormywindmill 3 роки тому +5

      And when they came home on leave after a voyage as most of them did not wear an official uniform. They were in line for abuse and scorn from uniformed personnel and civilians who were ignorant of the risks these brave men undertook to keep vital war supply lines open.

  • @Alsatiagent
    @Alsatiagent Рік тому +10

    From Wiki: "By 1944, WATU's existence was public knowledge. A journalist visited WATU in January 1944 to observe a wargame and published a short article in The Daily Herald. An exposé appeared in Illustrated magazine the following month." Is this possible? I had assumed this was secret for decades afterwards.

  • @TGBloke
    @TGBloke 6 років тому +56

    You really SHOULD ask for that interview you know. It's an important piece of history that might otherwise be lost.

    • @obfuscated3090
      @obfuscated3090 5 років тому

      The old fellow might enjoy discussing this subject instead of silly tabloid fodder.

    • @masterson0713
      @masterson0713 5 років тому

      @@obfuscated3090 who is he

  • @BrownBessOwner
    @BrownBessOwner 6 років тому +56

    Please do write to him and get that interview, before the details are lost to time.

  • @jtomos
    @jtomos 4 роки тому +8

    HMS Ulysses - one of my childhood favs. I've read it a dozen times.

  • @thinklyrical
    @thinklyrical 5 років тому +1

    Thanks for this "documentary" / video! I am so happy to have learned something more about "The Atlantic War" :) and all your other videos !! Dont stop, quit or surrender! Please continue Lindy!!

  • @chrisofnottingham
    @chrisofnottingham 6 років тому +50

    There's a movie in there. Except it wouldn't be as good as this video.

    • @mutleyeng
      @mutleyeng 6 років тому +1

      I was thinking a TV series - utterly fascinating story

    • @cygil1
      @cygil1 5 років тому +6

      The BBC would do it, since it's all about WAMMEN!, except they'd racelift half the cast into Pakistani Muslims wearing a WREN uniform that anachronistically includes a veil.

    • @andrewtucker94
      @andrewtucker94 5 років тому

      @@cygil1 It's all getting a bit Daily Mail in here

    • @kirbyculp3449
      @kirbyculp3449 3 роки тому

      @Marry Christmas
      When the admiral was 'spanked', make it the term of a wager.

  • @tomg5187
    @tomg5187 6 років тому +35

    I would pay money to watch lindybeige play civ 5 on twitch!

  • @russellst9441
    @russellst9441 6 років тому +5

    Great to hear this! Thank you - I knew women played a huge role in Bletchley and production/supply of materiel, but didn't know at all how significant their contribution was to war gaming/tactical development. Brilliant stuff!

  • @MikeBracewell
    @MikeBracewell 6 років тому +2

    Easily one of the best vids you've done, Lloyd, fascinating & excellently presented. Thank you!

  • @jonathanhill8691
    @jonathanhill8691 6 років тому +13

    who needs television? i havent watched in years!. thanks for the videos they are both informative and entertaining.
    to think i've walked past that building a hundred times and never knew it's history. i will make a point to visit one day soon.

    • @GuitarsRockForever
      @GuitarsRockForever 6 років тому +1

      For the last 6 years or so, the number of times I watched TV, was extremely low. I can say literally I don't watch TV anymore.

  • @PaganShredhead
    @PaganShredhead 6 років тому +48

    As to the anecdote about the corvette not being torpedoed while rescuing those sailors; German U-boat officers had a strict code of honour and would not fire at ships involved in a rescue attempt. This changed only after Dönitz ordered Total War measures and put political officers on every boat.
    So it would be crucial to know in which year this happened to actually be correlated with the new torpedoes.

    • @lindybeige
      @lindybeige  6 років тому +24

      Yes, those on the British ship might have thought that, but it takes nerve to act on it.

    • @adambielen8996
      @adambielen8996 6 років тому +6

      Dönitz was ironically more honorable then the Allies.

    • @markfryer9880
      @markfryer9880 6 років тому +12

      Donitz only enacted his Total War Order after several U-BOATS involved in a rescue operation were attacked by US forces despite the presence of numerous survivors on their desks.

    • @chaz8758
      @chaz8758 6 років тому +6

      Not all U Boat captains had a code of honour (or a nice code like people would like to believe), some were fanatical nazis who had no care. All U Boat crews knew live sailors could report on what happened so there were even in the early days reports of U Boats killing survivors of sunk ships (no survivor no proof it was a submarine) - likewise even after the order to not take prisoners - some captains still did rescue crew from sunken ships.

    • @MerlijnDingemanse
      @MerlijnDingemanse 6 років тому

      @@chaz8758 there is this guy who wrote a book on the 1421 exploratory chinese fleet who writes in his book that his former commanding officer actually got surprised by a sub but they were allowed to man and supply their lifeboats before the ship was torpedoed

  • @fenix9885
    @fenix9885 4 роки тому +2

    You make some of the best history videos I've ever seen. At 1st, I didn't like how long they were, but after watching enough it's all worth it. Not sure if you do these all in 1 take or splice them up, but you do a great job every time. Thank you

  • @harrisonbuck2749
    @harrisonbuck2749 4 роки тому +3

    I dont know how this video went under my radar for so long, I watch all of your videos, this one was great!

  • @therealkillerb7643
    @therealkillerb7643 6 років тому +162

    Great graphs; we need more of them. In fact, we need as many as possible when talking about the German Navy. One might even say, we need a "Graph Spree!" Sorry, I'll leave now... ;-)

    • @robertharris5453
      @robertharris5453 6 років тому +2

      The Real Killer B 😂

    • @therealkillerb7643
      @therealkillerb7643 6 років тому +9

      Thank you, thank you. I'll be here all week - and don't forget to tip your waitress!

    • @JarthenGreenmeadow
      @JarthenGreenmeadow 6 років тому +6

      High level history memes.

    • @YeeSoest
      @YeeSoest 5 років тому +3

      Upvoted for finding a way to incorporate my favorite ship into a joke about my favorite thing in the world...statistics...If i wasn't such a well mannered fellow I may have weed in my knickers, that's how delighted I am!

    • @olliephelan
      @olliephelan 4 роки тому

      A Graph Spree on the Graff Spee ?

  • @louisvilleuav5794
    @louisvilleuav5794 6 років тому +116

    Retired army here. War gaming is is an essential part of every training and development cycle.

    • @sayerslot
      @sayerslot 6 років тому +18

      retired boat here. Hi

    • @JarthenGreenmeadow
      @JarthenGreenmeadow 6 років тому +5

      This was even part of negotiations recently with the US halting the annual joint SK war games.
      They are important enough to be used as political leverage if that tells you anything.

    • @JoshuaRellick
      @JoshuaRellick 4 роки тому +1

      At what level of rank do soldiers start participating in running war games?

    • @skele3310
      @skele3310 4 роки тому

      @@JoshuaRellick probably all commissioned officers have at least some war gaming experience.

  • @almacmathain6195
    @almacmathain6195 3 роки тому +1

    My father was in the pre WWII British Army and took part in exercises in 1937 on Salisbury Plain. The had two German officers with them as observers and it was these gentlemen who pointed out that the brass buttons which were on the soldier’s and which were polished to a brilliant shine gave away the location of the troops by reflecting sunlight. The soldiers rather enjoyed ‘blanking’ their buttons which previously they had to keep bright and reflective. Two years afterwards, eighteen months after he had finished his Army service, on 1st September 1939 he was recalled to the Army and noticed that the old highly polished brass buttons were not part of the recently introduced battledress.

  • @pickpocket293
    @pickpocket293 6 років тому

    Thanks for doing this video. Your topics on military history are incredibly interesting to me. Keep making them and I'll keep watching them!

  • @ryancasey4038
    @ryancasey4038 6 років тому +9

    A 41 minute video where Lindy talks about Wargaming AND military history? Yes, please!

  • @markmaki4460
    @markmaki4460 6 років тому +84

    It's darn good luck that the Germans they didn't have John Cleese or a 16 ton weight to help protect them against all that fresh fruit!

    • @trequor
      @trequor 6 років тому +6

      Mark Maki Underrated comment

    • @CraftQueenJr
      @CraftQueenJr 5 років тому +4

      Or a tiger.

    • @jop2663
      @jop2663 5 років тому +3

      @@CraftQueenJr they had tigers tho

    • @andrewharper1609
      @andrewharper1609 4 роки тому

      It's also a good thing that they lacked both the Spanish Inquisition and.....the comfy chair!

    • @barelyasurvivor1257
      @barelyasurvivor1257 3 роки тому

      But The UK had the Ministry of Silly Walks to counter the Goose Step

  • @davidkennedy6208
    @davidkennedy6208 6 років тому

    I really want to thank you for these vids, you make history (and military tactics) fun and much easier to follow than a lot of very serious books about the subject. Thanks for all this amazing content!!!

  • @milonavarro
    @milonavarro 4 роки тому +4

    I truly love your videos. your video always find a way into my research for school projects. i'm writing a paper on how gaming can improve knowledge motor skills etc. They way you present your videos makes me feel like im sitting there in a room with you and we are have conversation about this topic. You don't just throw information at me and expect me to memorize it, you engage me and i really think and get into a topic at hand without finding myself bored or feeling lectured.

  • @2adamast
    @2adamast 6 років тому +60

    1870 Paris goes pfehh in a couple of weeks
    1914 the Germans stop at 100 km from Paris while the BEF is switching from retreat mode to fighting mode
    1940 The BEF is back from Dunkerque but _we didn't expect France to go pfehh in a couple of weeks_

    • @danielkelly1335
      @danielkelly1335 6 років тому +36

      1800's france steamrolls the whole of europe for a decade

    • @danielkelly1335
      @danielkelly1335 6 років тому +1

      and the franco prussian war lasted for a whole year but it did fo a it pfehh for the french

    • @2adamast
      @2adamast 6 років тому +8

      This brings us far back
      1814 after a few successes in the six days campaign Paris goes pfehh in a couple of weeks
      1815 after Waterloo Paris goes pfehh in a couple of weeks
      1870 Is 2 months for the second empire, with the republic and the siege of Paris 6 months total

    • @lomax343
      @lomax343 6 років тому +16

      @ Admast - The BEF deserve NO CREDIT WHATSOEVER for saving Paris in 1914. Indeed, the actions of the BEF during the Battle of the Marne were dilatory and, frankly, reprehensible.
      What ACTUALLY happened was that the French stripped men from the south and transferred them (being on home soil and being able to use railways was a huge advantage the Germans didn't enjoy) to the NW of the German First Army. This army hastily re-positioned itself to face the new French Sixth Army - going from a front line roughly E-W to a front line roughly N-S in a couple of days. They were able to do this pretty much unmolested, because the troops they were facing - the BEF - was still busily retreating.
      Meanwhile, a few miles East, the German Second, Third and Fourth Armies were heavily engaged against the French Fifth, Ninth and Fourth Armies. The re-positioning if the German First Army opened up a gap between them and the German Second Army, which the BEF was ideally positioned to exploit.
      And the BEF did BUGGER ALL.
      The French did everything but beg them to attack - or even to simply advance into empty territory - but their response was lamentable. First they wasted time sitting doing nothing, then they advanced at a speed that would've shamed a snail.
      The upshot is that the Germans - realising that the gap between two of their armies meant that their position was untenable, and recognising that Paris wasn't about to fall - fell back (entirely unmolested by the BEF) to better positions that formed the basis for four years of trench warfare.
      Say what you like about the French in 1870 and 1940, but in 1914 they saved Paris despite their allies, not because of them.

    • @2adamast
      @2adamast 6 років тому +1

      I think the BEF acted in 14 like in 40: they fought a little then retreated a lot and in the end started fighting more.
      For the French, each time (70, 14, 40) the border was crossed Paris was very accessible. So the result in 40 should not be a big surprise

  • @merryweather3713
    @merryweather3713 6 років тому +8

    I love these long ranting videos. It's like historical ASMR that I can fall asleep to.

  • @kristikramer4111
    @kristikramer4111 5 років тому +2

    You are the passionate and charismatic history teacher/professor that most of us never had. Thank you for that.

  • @Victor.-.E
    @Victor.-.E 3 роки тому +38

    American here. A solemn tear for Prince Philip. Hail Britannia, and godspeed.

  • @mysteryshrimp
    @mysteryshrimp 6 років тому +20

    14:36
    Always take out the spellcaster first.

    • @hashnotall6263
      @hashnotall6263 3 роки тому +1

      Healer dies first, then crowd control.

  • @bcn1gh7h4wk
    @bcn1gh7h4wk 6 років тому +10

    7:08
    Fog-of-war™, model 1940.
    GENIUS!

  • @MissMeganBeckett
    @MissMeganBeckett Рік тому

    I love your enthusiasm for the topics that you cover, I’ve been having a bit of trouble lately concentrating on watching videos about things I’m interested in and want to know about, but with your videos I only have to rewind because my brain has wandered off maybe three times total per video which is a massive improvement for me lately.

  • @MrHaveaword
    @MrHaveaword 3 роки тому

    Llpyd your presentation skills are quite remarkable. Non stop, no edits, segways into an Audible sponsorship half way through the talk.
    Another good'un, cheers Lindy

  • @jacobblanton5179
    @jacobblanton5179 4 роки тому +11

    ~8:10
    Me: "MONSTER-RAT???"
    Name Caption:
    "Nicholas Monsarrat"
    "Oh. That... makes more sense I guess."

  • @MrSlitskirts
    @MrSlitskirts 5 років тому +25

    Great clip and subject, although I think you were a bit too harsh on the WRNS ref 'having no knowledge of Naval tactics', who would have any at all (male or female) until you joined up and did officer training or similar. In a sense they were the perfect choice because they were unencumbered of any naval tactics or traditional tactical thinking, so they were more open to try new things and think 'outside the square'.

    • @Moamanly
      @Moamanly 4 роки тому +1

      Yeah,thought the same thing.

    • @allenwilliams1306
      @allenwilliams1306 3 роки тому +1

      Quite: the Bletchley Park people were originally selected because they could do cryptic crosswords.

  • @weseld1
    @weseld1 6 років тому

    I have been a fan of your programs for quite a while, but this is the very best one you have done. Congratulations from an officer and war gamer, on presenting a very complex subject with great clarity. David Wesely

  • @haydenggallen
    @haydenggallen 6 років тому

    Lloyd, I’d like to tell you how much I appreciate all the work and effort you put into these videos. So I will!
    I GREATLY appreciate all the work and effort you put into your videos! They are always so entertaining and informative and I love them!

  • @uderzo1984
    @uderzo1984 6 років тому +42

    This sounds like it could be a pretty good movie, young bright women producing life saving naval tactics :)

    • @JohnyG29
      @JohnyG29 6 років тому +32

      uderzo1984 It was a team of people, men and women. Besides, if they made it into a film they'd have to shoehorn in a love story and an American somewhere.

    • @edmundscycles1
      @edmundscycles1 6 років тому

      JohnyG29 have you not seen 'Winston Churchill: Hollywood year's?

    • @z_actual
      @z_actual 6 років тому

      Ive been in touch with an actor/producer to that effect

    • @trequor
      @trequor 6 років тому +8

      JohnyG29 Yeah... if we could keep it out of the hands of SJWs it would be amazing

    • @edstoutenburg3990
      @edstoutenburg3990 6 років тому +3

      Or a mini-series on HBO or Netflix ect. Switching from the Wargames unit to scenes out on Escorts and Convoys.

  • @Familyman0838
    @Familyman0838 5 років тому +3

    You sir are a master of your chosen field very entertaining and huge encompasment of subject matter and facts well done CARRY ON

  • @davidobrien9362
    @davidobrien9362 2 роки тому

    My absolute favourite clip from Lindybeige,watched many times and stunned by what I learn,along with the show about helmets in war,fantastic.

  • @sectorz8171
    @sectorz8171 6 років тому

    Lindy as always, you are a fantastic auteur, historian, and voice to listen to. Absolutely love these lecture style videos!

  • @pineycolada3075
    @pineycolada3075 4 роки тому +3

    Lindybeige is the only UA-camr who says: you are probably smart, we should have lunch some time. And that is what makes his personality

  • @kieranfitz
    @kieranfitz 6 років тому +67

    Lindy, lad, you know Philly boy is going to say something to get you demonetised.

    • @TheOneLichemperor
      @TheOneLichemperor 6 років тому +10

      I'm somewhat surprised Phillip hasn't had the BBC demonetised yet!

    • @Solinimo
      @Solinimo 6 років тому +9

      You can't just beep his words out, that would be disrespectful. But perhaps you could use some cathedral bells or royal trumpets

    • @neilwilson5785
      @neilwilson5785 6 років тому +17

      I'm a bit of a lefty, but I like Prince Philip. The Duke of Edinburgh award scheme is really great, he speaks his mind, he's worked hard. He fought the Nazis. I can't speak for him, but I think he'd enjoy this video. I did.

    • @BlackQback
      @BlackQback 6 років тому +1

      Old boy, I'm not even British (nor Greek or Danish) and I like Prince Phillip a lot. I'd take him home, if he'd be so inclined to come. I couldn't stop laughing for hours after his "Do you know they're now producing eating dogs for the anorexics?" comment to a blind lady with a "looking dog".

  • @Travelin2Wit
    @Travelin2Wit 4 роки тому +1

    Your style of presentation is itself entertaining and contributes greatly to the whole video. Thank you... off to Patreon!

  • @rampantrelichunteruk666
    @rampantrelichunteruk666 6 років тому +1

    Love Learning With Lindybeige
    Brilliant upload once again

  • @uderzo1984
    @uderzo1984 6 років тому +11

    This is precisely why I love this channel. Fascinating history, thanks for sharing it with us Lloyd :)

  • @johnlansing2902
    @johnlansing2902 5 років тому +3

    Thank you for the great history! It is said a successful unit in any military draws upon the experience and interests of its people ( if a person is a great knife fighter then you have your knife instructor) but it requires a command structure that can admit this type of input.

  • @fredonions2523
    @fredonions2523 5 років тому

    This man is absolutely fascinating, brilliant information here, riveting stuff. What a channel, must be one of the best I've ever seen. Thank you sir.

  • @adamkilroe9840
    @adamkilroe9840 5 років тому +2

    That was brilliant. Interesting, informative, thought provoking. Thank you.

  • @brycestava4465
    @brycestava4465 6 років тому +59

    This is a perfect channel, the content is flawless.

    • @neilwilson5785
      @neilwilson5785 6 років тому +1

      Yes, I keep coming back here. I've even been tricked into watching lindy hop content a few times. Strange.

    • @lindybeige
      @lindybeige  6 років тому +8

      Er... well, if you ignore the constant trickle of corrections in the screen captions... Thanks!

    • @Solinimo
      @Solinimo 6 років тому

      Bryce you're saying it as if it was news 😏

    • @bennylofgren3208
      @bennylofgren3208 6 років тому +1

      Neil Wilson Yes, what's with this strange brain washing... I haven't taken a decent dance step in my entire life, nor have I had any interest to learn, yet I have this oddly comprehensive knowledge of Lindy Hop...

    • @antoshq1985
      @antoshq1985 6 років тому +3

      Lindy is good, but his videos are biased, somewhat simplified and sometimes factually incorrect.

  • @luwkseam
    @luwkseam 5 років тому +5

    "Cruel sea" is the saddest book I have ever read. It is very well written but there are certain passages I wish I could get out of my memory.

  • @JamesClarkJacace
    @JamesClarkJacace 5 років тому

    Lindy - Loved this episode. Thanks for all you do!

  • @welshpete12
    @welshpete12 4 роки тому

    Of all the stories that came out of the second world war , this must one of the most remarkable. Thank you for posting, without you it would never have become known !

  • @royfernley3153
    @royfernley3153 5 років тому +6

    Fully agree with your recommendation of HMS Ulysses, it’s a superb novel almost on a level with The Cruel Sea.

    • @Belsen85
      @Belsen85 4 роки тому +1

      Fully agree - I read it when I was 12 years old and it is still one of the most favorite books for me. And it is very correct about the description of the cold in the book. It was not that striking for me due to the fact that I lived in Murmanks that time, so kind of usual. But one thing the book really changed in my life - hot chocolate (Kakao) became my favorite drink in cold and dark polar nights.

  • @sgtsharp1537
    @sgtsharp1537 6 років тому +4

    another thing reason the ship which was rescuing the crew of the other ship wasn't torpedoed is that, a sinking ship is very noisy, and so the torpedoes, if there were any, would have homed into the sinking wreck instead.

  • @qunt2742
    @qunt2742 6 років тому

    I had literally never heard or read any of this before now, and even looking it up, I can still find very little. Thank you for bringing attention to this.

  • @OlleyAney
    @OlleyAney 4 роки тому

    So good! Great sense of Humour; speaking with joy about deep and serious things!

  • @MrAlex_Raven
    @MrAlex_Raven 6 років тому +78

    My god, there's no page on Jean Laidlaw anywhere where I can learn more about her story and history. Maybe you can get in touch with some history folks or wikipedia and see if we can make something for her, since I'd love to learn more. I feel like I should have learned about the Western Approaches Unit and the women therein ages ago.
    Thanks tremendously for this video Lindybeige.

    • @MrAlex_Raven
      @MrAlex_Raven 6 років тому +3

      Good on you mate. Thank you.
      There are other items like this of obscure history that are hardly covered in detail. Someone commented a sarcastic thing before thinking this was more so about the fact she was a woman.
      I am more so into this in the same way I enjoyed History of Rescue Flotilla 1 and the US Coast Guard at D-Day as presented by "The History Guy", another channel a lot like this. I wish Joe Plummer didn't remove his comment. in any case, thank you.

    • @BobSmith-dk8nw
      @BobSmith-dk8nw 6 років тому

      Google is your friend.
      I'll post the links I found with some other comments I'm going to make.
      .

    • @MrAlex_Raven
      @MrAlex_Raven 6 років тому

      Ah excellent. Thank you.

    • @BobSmith-dk8nw
      @BobSmith-dk8nw 6 років тому

      No problem. Links and other comments posted now in another thread.

  • @mochithepooh5368
    @mochithepooh5368 5 років тому +7

    "They hadn't imagine that France would just go BLEEGH in a couple of weeks."
    Good shit.

  • @Aabergm
    @Aabergm 5 років тому

    Love your stuff very informative and fascinating. (also enjoy the John Cleese mannerisms that sneak in occasionally)

  • @kaganoztas4028
    @kaganoztas4028 4 роки тому +2

    Best Regard's from Turkey
    Lindybeige, You are one of the best youtuber. Thank you

  • @99IronDuke
    @99IronDuke 6 років тому +4

    From about 1943, the RN also had a towed noisemaker for use against acoustic torpedoes called a Foxer.

    • @Desi-qw9fc
      @Desi-qw9fc 5 років тому +1

      It interfered with the technology that was used by escorts to find and destroy U-Boats.

  • @chrisferatu1793
    @chrisferatu1793 3 роки тому +4

    Adm. Horton: “Alright, fifth time’s the charm; this time I’ll win!
    Janet Okell: *How about a good game of chess?*

  • @dralenvan
    @dralenvan 6 років тому

    This is a typical LindyBeige video. I didn't even know this interested me, followingly it interests me and it is the first 40min video I watched from start tot end on UA-cam in months. He reminds me of my history-professor in highschool, he also gave his lectures in the same way. Also great to see the Yotube language-program finally acknowledges your English as something I can translate for my non-engish-speaking countrymen.

  • @ceooflovingthehomies9294
    @ceooflovingthehomies9294 6 років тому

    I love how I not only learned about war gaming in the video but also learned about U-boat tactics and I’d never heard of an acoustic torpedo. Great info!