Apostasy in Islam, a controversial topic that even a popular Sheikh avoids addressing in the UK

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  • @Shiroyashasama
    @Shiroyashasama 6 місяців тому +26

    Why is he beating around the bush like that? I’m Muslim and I can give you a much better answer than that. Yes the punishment is death but apostasy is a private sin. No one will know that you left unless you went around announcing it

    • @tay974
      @tay974 6 місяців тому +4

      Sir, would you then condemn this rule which looks more barbarian in today's globalized free world. it would be much appreciated as a humanitarian thought.

    • @TheConquest88
      @TheConquest88 3 місяці тому +1

      Are you suggesting someone should live their life as a lie and pretend to hold a faith outwardly to the world, their friends, family, spouse potentially, in order to avoid being killed?

    • @Z4rgabad
      @Z4rgabad 3 місяці тому +1

      @@TheConquest88 Not necessarily. As long as he/she outwardly conforms to the noble values of islam as to not destabilize the society there is no punishment.
      Many virtuous, morally inclined westerners today practice islamic values (or some variation of) without even realizing. We all have an intuitive sense of these and consider them noble. In times of degeneracy, wokeism and sodomy, the righteous few will embrace these, the more conservative types.

    • @Z4rgabad
      @Z4rgabad 3 місяці тому

      @@tay974 I am a muslim and will answer the question, but first I must ask you, what is a "free world". And why is this " free world" considered "globalized"?

    • @jonathannixon8652
      @jonathannixon8652 3 місяці тому

      They will know, and living a lie to protect your life is very sad and a shame. It's all about fear and punishment and shame murder and death not giving equal rights to women and those who are not Muslim and arrogance of Allah saying Muslims are the Best of creation etcetera etcetera etcetera.

  • @ksam545
    @ksam545 6 місяців тому +16

    He's evading the question because we all know what the answer is with regards to apostacy in the religion of pieces.

    • @Z4rgabad
      @Z4rgabad 3 місяці тому

      I am a muslim, and non muslims must give up on this unfounded lampoon of muslims considering islam a religion of piece. We waged and fought ferociously in battles from the birth of the prophet to modern day.
      No intelligent muslim would consider our religion one of peace. Likewise no intelligent human being would consider the human condition one of peace.

  • @sportstours24
    @sportstours24 5 місяців тому +13

    It is like a gang. You can come in any time you like, but you can never leave.

  • @BabanChaprasi-ug3np
    @BabanChaprasi-ug3np 6 місяців тому +34

    Well he can't say it on television but every one know what happens

    • @Ncyaplado4
      @Ncyaplado4 6 місяців тому

      😂People who leave Islam are mostly from lgbtq community or atheist others dont leave cause we practice our religion and we know its truth. Our religion can be at least practiced can Christianity and others be even practiced? Yall are barbaric as h*ll. And apostasy is Christianity is punished by stone to de@th of course they dont want to disclose that once they say Islam is copy then accuse of it as extreme say 1 lie at a time of its a copy what says that about Christianity? I see Christians trying theirs best to form a link of cult but ignoring the fact most of the cults AROUND the world are from CHRISTIANITY! ✝️ 😂 Of course they wont talk bout it

    • @QuestForGood
      @QuestForGood 6 місяців тому +2

      What exactly happens?

    • @ang0051
      @ang0051 6 місяців тому +5

      @@QuestForGoodreally? you dont know reality around you?

    • @cun7us
      @cun7us 6 місяців тому +1

      ​@@QuestForGoodeffectively, capital punishment.

    • @FastestSpeakerscorner
      @FastestSpeakerscorner 6 місяців тому +4

      ​​@@QuestForGoodyou'll get unalived, publicly

  • @tay974
    @tay974 6 місяців тому +10

    They can't answer this in today's Liberal world where they are enjoying freedom of speech across the globe while denying at their home..Truly speaking, the fear of this rule ruins lives of many young rational thinkers. They cannot express themselves and spend life in isolation. This damages their hidden capabilities and consequence is their failure overall. Imagine the question is so serious that this well educated imam is unable to answer, even he thinks Christianity is more Idealistic and Islam is realistic( which no doubt is, but not for those who are not Muslim)

    • @light5978
      @light5978 6 місяців тому

      Someone with beard and hat doesnt mean well educated. We dont judge people by looks, but by the knowledge

  • @abhilashpatel6852
    @abhilashpatel6852 6 місяців тому +16

    if it's so hypothetical and islam is realistic rather than idealistic, why a hypothetical thing is even mentioned in quran to begin with? are you a lair mr sheikh?

    • @abhilashpatel6852
      @abhilashpatel6852 6 місяців тому

      it's a proof that the knowledge level of a sheikh is also 💩💩💩💩.

    • @moriarty16
      @moriarty16 6 місяців тому

      What is the ruling of adharmi in your religion?

    • @cvineethr
      @cvineethr 6 місяців тому +2

      ​@@moriarty16 nothing Karma will get him

  • @zaeemtahir3020
    @zaeemtahir3020 6 місяців тому +6

    Apostasy is in Every Religion; its God command we can't complain about it. So why he acting like its only in Islam?

    • @JH-zs3bs
      @JH-zs3bs 5 місяців тому

      Because it is only in islam! Christian don't kill people who leave Christianity. The biggest danger for ex-Jews is that their aunties are going to trashtalk them on the next family gathering.

    • @TheConquest88
      @TheConquest88 3 місяці тому

      Do you mean people leave all religions? Yes that is true, but as far as I know, the only religion where apostasy is actively punished by death is Islam. At least in Islamic majority countries where Islamic law governs...

  • @Alxndr57834
    @Alxndr57834 6 місяців тому +10

    This is so shameful. "Cmon just say you give up you give up"
    No, how about you answer the question?
    The reason he doesn't answer is because he knows the answer is awful and he is ashamed to admit it.

    • @Z4rgabad
      @Z4rgabad 3 місяці тому +2

      I am a muslim and believe he answered this question very poorly. He brought shame upon himself with this answer

  • @Sikyu-ye4ns
    @Sikyu-ye4ns 6 місяців тому +19

    there's no controversy. they are ashamed of their own religion but they refuse to leave that cult

    • @muazabdool6047
      @muazabdool6047 6 місяців тому +1

      Huh says who ?

    • @Sikyu-ye4ns
      @Sikyu-ye4ns 6 місяців тому +2

      @@muazabdool6047 the very reactions that you have, including the guy in this video.

    • @light5978
      @light5978 6 місяців тому +4

      ​@@Sikyu-ye4ns nah, we are proud as ever. Thats why we proudly pray wherever we can, even in public places

    • @Sikyu-ye4ns
      @Sikyu-ye4ns 6 місяців тому +4

      @@light5978 that's not a confront. you just proved why islam is absent among scientists and strong in afghanistan

    • @zaeemtahir3020
      @zaeemtahir3020 6 місяців тому

      @@Sikyu-ye4ns you watched one random dude and made your point are you that shallow?

  • @FastestSpeakerscorner
    @FastestSpeakerscorner 6 місяців тому +8

    It's hard to answer because it's inhumane, and he knows it full well, the religion of peace, love and tolerance would be in a mess straight away!

    • @Z4rgabad
      @Z4rgabad 3 місяці тому

      I am a muslim and islam is not a religion of peace, love and tolerance. Why should it be? Why are these virtues?

    • @FastestSpeakerscorner
      @FastestSpeakerscorner 3 місяці тому +2

      @@Z4rgabad because God doesn't force anything. Only the diviill does!
      Love doesn't force, abuse forces!

    • @FastestSpeakerscorner
      @FastestSpeakerscorner 3 місяці тому +1

      @@Z4rgabad Hence why Al-lah has slaves and YHWH has sons and daughters!
      Two totally different God's, as you se!

    • @Z4rgabad
      @Z4rgabad 3 місяці тому +1

      @@FastestSpeakerscorner We are all slaves, you believe yourself free?

    • @runnofl
      @runnofl 2 місяці тому

      @@Z4rgabad I've heard this from many Muslims you're not a slave my friend. You were made in God's image ❤️

  • @SAGAR_S_JADHAV
    @SAGAR_S_JADHAV 6 місяців тому +6

    😂😂
    There is no way out

    • @Ncyaplado4
      @Ncyaplado4 6 місяців тому +1

      Of course there is but mostly people who leave islam are members of lgbtq community and atheists people stay in Islam by their faith fastest growing religion for a reason even with all islamophobia done to slander it

    • @christos3280
      @christos3280 6 місяців тому +4

      @@Ncyaplado4 The reason "Islam" grows is because in countries like in them middle east and indonesia, people have high birth rates. Islam actually is the religion with the highest number of people that leave the religion.

    • @Sikyu-ye4ns
      @Sikyu-ye4ns 6 місяців тому +6

      @@Ncyaplado4 fastest breeding and people are scared to escape.

    • @kingoverflow
      @kingoverflow 6 місяців тому +3

      @@christos3280 factually incorrect Christianity is the most declining religion, and Islam isn't the fastest-growing religion only due to its birthrate. There’s also a lot more converts than people who leave. Lol

    • @kingoverflow
      @kingoverflow 6 місяців тому

      @@Sikyu-ye4ns There hasn’t been any case of apostasy laws, and nobody is scared to leave your just deluded.

  • @moizq1915
    @moizq1915 6 місяців тому +2

    Its simple like I don't know why the sheikh is evading the Questions, the answer is u can leave like there is no punishment. The punishments come under different other circumstances like openly betraying Muslims or belittling Islam etc. If u want answer to those go do research rather than just searching it on google and believing what google says.

    • @sportstours24
      @sportstours24 5 місяців тому

      Why can't they talk against Islam if they don't like it? Islam talks against atheism and other faiths all the time.

  • @solomonkirby7493
    @solomonkirby7493 6 місяців тому +2

    How is he gonna decide that it’s hard for the other man to understand if he hasn’t even given him the answer 💀

  • @MeezanTheFairBloke
    @MeezanTheFairBloke 2 місяці тому

    hahaha when they can't explain something then it is blamed on your understanding 🤣🤣 or maybe it cannot be translated🤣🤣 He just doesn't want to say, the strict law for apostasy is for you to be unalived. Why is this? Purely because most people leaving Islam has actually studied it and find things that are not good in there and if they leave... they would share these things so unaliving them will keep them quiet.

  • @shams16780
    @shams16780 4 місяці тому

    who is this guy, a mafia leader? Asking to give up on the difficult questions? in fact, that is the reality of what he believe. That guy clearly know that Islam is a terrible religion, but cannot admit it

  • @hamidturkistani734
    @hamidturkistani734 6 місяців тому +2

    Sheikh be like, i know what you're doing Jan.

  • @JoseHernandez-he2yc
    @JoseHernandez-he2yc 6 місяців тому +2

    Jesus, let people leave and even said "this offends you? John 6 61" and started speaking more things that offended people and made them leave, his true followers remained, God doesnt want to force himself on anyone. On the other hand cults will kill you if you leave them.

    • @light5978
      @light5978 6 місяців тому

      Thats why you befriend people that killed your god ? Well we dont do that. Different religion has different ways. Only the 1 messege is same, god is one

    • @JoseHernandez-he2yc
      @JoseHernandez-he2yc 6 місяців тому

      @@light5978 If I lived in Jesus time I would have probably killed him, because that is what the un-renewed mind does, but the Lord has shone light into my heart, there is one God , and if you know Jesus you will know this God.

  • @Vamos1969
    @Vamos1969 4 місяці тому

    Nothing but sidetracking.

  • @AdeHussein-gq3xz
    @AdeHussein-gq3xz 6 місяців тому

    This does depend on the country but if you know the truth and you cant that and throw it away thats very unacceptable in islam.

  • @Rushopium
    @Rushopium 6 місяців тому

    I was waiting for a much better comprehensive intellectual conversation

  • @Wisdomseeker1028
    @Wisdomseeker1028 6 місяців тому

    The sheikh should just tell the answer.

  • @light5978
    @light5978 6 місяців тому +2

    The punishment can only be executed in a islamic country. Syeikh uthman from one messege foundation explained it really well. Try to find his video in youtube

    • @JH-zs3bs
      @JH-zs3bs 5 місяців тому +2

      You know that doesn't really make it better.

    • @jonathannixon8652
      @jonathannixon8652 3 місяці тому +2

      But privately, the family beat, chase, and murder their own children for leaving. Claiming it brings shame on the entire family, yet murdering your own children is not shameful it's pure evil madness.

  • @DaboooogA
    @DaboooogA 6 місяців тому

    Cowardice

  • @freshstart-p8t
    @freshstart-p8t 6 місяців тому +5

    For you is your religion, and for me is my religion." | surah Kafirun aya 6

    • @greenweed3253
      @greenweed3253 6 місяців тому +9

      This Surah came when people of Madina accused Mohammad for abusing their gods. This surah was to assure them that he won't do that again, but he later conquered Madina and destroyed all their idols of their gods. So this is basically a lie he told them

    • @freshstart-p8t
      @freshstart-p8t 6 місяців тому +3

      @@greenweed3253 the sura wasnt him directly speaking. It was ALLAH swt telling him to say it to the people, also medina ended up being the place of worship for muslims not idol worshippers. It was the same place abraham and all the messengers had come to and it was abrahams first home. The exact location was significant, if They had worshipped the idols anywhere else he wouldnt have went and destroyed them. Hence why he didnt go around the world doing that. That specific location was sacred and they knew it this is why they dilberately worshipped it in that location. That was the house of GOD! Let me put it into perspective for you im sure i can do drugs and do whatever i want no matter the crimes and you wont care, but if i did it in your home and around your family, then its a problem.

    • @test-ot1fz
      @test-ot1fz 6 місяців тому

      256:2 says the same thing using different words ​@@greenweed3253

    • @sportstours24
      @sportstours24 5 місяців тому

      ​@@freshstart-p8this followers went doing it throughout the world. They failed to complete their mission, though.

    • @TheConquest88
      @TheConquest88 3 місяці тому

      @@freshstart-p8t I'm sorry but you can't compare the use of 'idols' for worship to taking drugs. You don't like the use of idols in your religion but it isn't objectively wrong, other religions allow this or don't rules preventing and people use figures of saints or deities in a pious way. It is not permitted in Islam, fine, but it is not the same as doing drugs in someone's house.

  • @jariz26
    @jariz26 6 місяців тому +6

    Clearly this man doesn't know the answer. Also, a person with beard and hat doesn't make him a scholar. If you follow or unfollow Islam, nothing happens. As long as you are a person of good morals, uou are safe and doesn't matter who or how you pray. As long as you serve humanity with just and fairness, God will forgive you. Its very simple, human made religion and created division among themselves.

    • @AnzarDtafukt
      @AnzarDtafukt 5 місяців тому +1

      The man very much knows the answer. He's smart enough to not articulate it when cameras are on him. It's very straightforward answer, and apostasy is very serious in Islam.

  • @bartomiej1823
    @bartomiej1823 6 місяців тому +2

    Bardzo interesująca rozmowa 👍 Serdecznie pozdrawiam z Polski 👋

  • @Classic_Gz79
    @Classic_Gz79 6 місяців тому +3

    -Quran 18:29
    " "The truth is from your Lord, so whoever wills - let him believe; and whoever wills - let him disbelieve.""
    This is why all muslims should stop following Bukhari and his book of hersays.

    • @Sikyu-ye4ns
      @Sikyu-ye4ns 6 місяців тому +1

      quran 9:29 bukhari or not doesnt change

    • @Classic_Gz79
      @Classic_Gz79 6 місяців тому

      @@Sikyu-ye4ns
      Read quran 9:13 only few verses before it,
      The Quran forbade killing people for their religion many times
      -Quran 2:256
      "Let there be no compulsion in religion, for the truth stands out clearly from falsehood"
      -Quran 10:108
      "Say, "O mankind, the truth has come to you from your Lord, so whoever is guided is only guided for [the benefit of] his soul, and whoever goes astray only goes astray [in violation] against it. And I am not over you a manager.""
      -Quran 10:99
      "Had your Lord so willed ˹O Prophet˺, all ˹people˺ on earth would have certainly believed, every single one of them! Would you then force people to become believers?"

    • @Classic_Gz79
      @Classic_Gz79 6 місяців тому +2

      @@Sikyu-ye4ns
      Read quran 9:13 only few verses before it,
      The Quran forbade k*lling people for their religion many times
      -Quran 10:108
      "Say, "O mankind, the truth has come to you from your Lord, so whoever is guided is only guided for [the benefit of] his soul, and whoever goes astray only goes astray [in violation] against it. And I am not over you a manager.""
      -Quran 10:99
      "Had your Lord so willed ˹O Prophet˺, all ˹people˺ on earth would have certainly believed, every single one of them! Would you then force people to become believers?"

    • @Classic_Gz79
      @Classic_Gz79 6 місяців тому

      @@Sikyu-ye4ns
      Read quran 9:13, only few verse before it, cherry picking verses won't work
      The Qur'an forbade on many occasion killing people for their religion
      Quran 10:108
      Say, ˹O Prophet,˺ “O humanity! The truth has surely come to you from your Lord. So whoever chooses to be guided, it is only for their own good. And whoever chooses to stray, it is only to their own loss. And I am not a keeper over you.”
      Quran 10:99
      Had your Lord so willed ˹O Prophet˺, all ˹people˺ on earth would have certainly believed, every single one of them! Would you then force people to become believers?"

    • @Sikyu-ye4ns
      @Sikyu-ye4ns 6 місяців тому +1

      @@Classic_Gz79 "fight those who do not BELIEVE" more clear than that ?

  • @enowmessi2844
    @enowmessi2844 6 місяців тому +3

    He's so evil he's face has become demonic

  • @saikatbabu9842
    @saikatbabu9842 6 місяців тому +2

    Jih@di for a reason 🤣🤣

  • @moriarty16
    @moriarty16 6 місяців тому

    😂😂every answer regarding islam has always been given without hesitation. Howmany times you are going to come up with the questions?