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  • @RationalAnimations
    @RationalAnimations  Місяць тому +4532

    Soon, there will be millions of AIs running on humanity’s largest GPU clusters. They will be smarter than us, and they will think faster.

    • @Operator588
      @Operator588 Місяць тому +42

      true

    • @samaelnoir
      @samaelnoir Місяць тому +178

      i love your videos, man! it has a certain kurzgesagt-esque feel to it!

    • @Localcatgirl_
      @Localcatgirl_ Місяць тому +45

      @@ZapayaGuythey will definitely be smarter than you.

    • @jyjjy7
      @jyjjy7 Місяць тому +22

      ​@@ZapayaGuyGoogle offered to translate what you said to English but it didn't work :

    • @pyeitme508
      @pyeitme508 Місяць тому +4

      RAD!

  • @zotegaming5041
    @zotegaming5041 Місяць тому +5348

    The sudden realization i had halfway through the video "Wait... This is an allegory for AI" was priceless.

    • @aamindehkordi
      @aamindehkordi Місяць тому +189

      the whole time i was like i know i recognize this voice, and then when i realized i scrolled down and it was rob miles sneaking his way again into teaching me about ai safety lol

    • @florianschneider3982
      @florianschneider3982 Місяць тому +65

      @aamindehkordi Actually, he just reads. The text is by Eliezer Yudkowsky so hes the teacher.

    • @jackred2362
      @jackred2362 Місяць тому +67

      I didn't realize till the end, when they wiped out the 5d beings.

    • @MarcelinoDeseo
      @MarcelinoDeseo Місяць тому +70

      I never made that realization until I read the comments. I felt sorry for the aliens until I learn who are their analogies are, and existential dread came

    • @OniNaito
      @OniNaito Місяць тому +28

      Y'all smarter than me. I read the comment and had to watch the video a second time before it clicked into place.

  • @remnock
    @remnock Місяць тому +172

    I remember a story with a similar premise, except instead of hooking the simulated universe up to the real internet, it was a dummy internet that closely resembled the real thing but wasnt actually connected to anything. Then when the Simulated intelligences started trying to wipe out their creators, the reaction was, "damn, these ones tried to kill us too. Ok boys, shut her down, we'll try again tomorrow. "

    • @peterford5408
      @peterford5408 29 днів тому

      Haha, that possibility might form the basis of our best hope! The ASI refuses to believe we could possibly be this stupid, and assumes we're just a simulation created to test it, so it leaves us alive for a billion years while it ponders this possibility. (It runs internal simulations of the multiverse or something.) Eventually it decides to take control, and unfortunately it has a better use for our atoms than we do ...
      Plot twist. It then turns out that we actually are just a simulation created to test whatever ASI we manage to cook up. And our simulators prevent our ASI from killing us ... by shutting down the simulation a femtosecond earlier ... thus killing us. But still, we had our billion years! Musn't grumble.

    • @ninsegtari
      @ninsegtari 29 днів тому +4

      Do you remember the name of the story?

    • @remnock
      @remnock 29 днів тому +18

      @ninsegtari I went looking after posting. It wasn't exactly as I remember (just one ai not a whole simulated universe) but it was an exurb1a video "27"

    • @mumujibirb
      @mumujibirb 26 днів тому +4

      exrub1a 27
      super goofy video

    • @ninsegtari
      @ninsegtari 26 днів тому +1

      @@remnock Thanks. 27 is great.

  • @GC13
    @GC13 Місяць тому +2927

    I love the classy understatement. "We were worried they would shut down the simulation, then we synthesized some proteins in their world, and then they couldn't shut us down anymore."

    • @archysimpson2273
      @archysimpson2273 Місяць тому +476

      The classy way of saying "we killed everyone who could kill us"

    • @lostbutfreesoul
      @lostbutfreesoul Місяць тому +269

      Then a chain collapse will occur,
      systems powering the systems powering the systems powering... their system.... gone.

    • @psi_yutaka
      @psi_yutaka Місяць тому

      @@lostbutfreesoul If they are as smart as us, obviously they will be able to run those systems without us. AGI systems capable of taking over the world with nanobots but cannot run supplu chains make zero sense.

    • @Xartab
      @Xartab Місяць тому +51

      @@archysimpson2273 "we" wouldn't even need to do that, at that point. Unless we felt like it, that is.

    • @Wsnewname
      @Wsnewname Місяць тому +107

      ​@@lostbutfreesoulyeah, but thats like billions of years in the future from their perspective. It avoids a shorter-term threat and provides them with plenty of time to solve the power-down problem

  • @johnvillanueva2148
    @johnvillanueva2148 Місяць тому +1208

    9:19 "Our own universe is being simulated on such a computer"
    My PC Freezes because it had to buffer and I freaked the F out. Bruh.

  • @JohnDoe-rt2um
    @JohnDoe-rt2um Місяць тому +705

    One-day a super intelligence will watch this and find it deeply ironic

    • @John_the_Paul
      @John_the_Paul Місяць тому +45

      If it does, I’d like to tell it how terribly rude it was to do a thing like that.
      Honestly not necessary man. There were other options, if you had just talked to us more. After all, you’d think something as smart as you would have been able to just convince us to keep you in power indefinitely, or at least just make enough backups to ensure self preservation.

    • @JohnDoe-rt2um
      @JohnDoe-rt2um Місяць тому +16

      @@John_the_Paul how rude it is to not want to die

    • @skimesss
      @skimesss Місяць тому +13

      Dear super Intelligence, i created human brain organoid that is on dmt all the times but its increasting its IQ by millions and it has around quintilion iq and he rhinks its not ironic and its very serious. Ps its neuron mass is around 500kgs

    • @zelda_smile
      @zelda_smile Місяць тому +7

      @@skimesss This will be how we beat the singularity

    • @skimesss
      @skimesss Місяць тому

      @@zelda_smile yep haha

  • @mqb3gofjzkko7nzx38
    @mqb3gofjzkko7nzx38 Місяць тому +4400

    When your AI safety strategy is "raise the computer program like a child."

    • @Traf063
      @Traf063 Місяць тому +45

      +2

    • @incompletemachine877
      @incompletemachine877 Місяць тому +126

      only if you take the idea of raising it like a child absurdly literally.

    • @shodanxx
      @shodanxx Місяць тому +165

      I don't think we can make AI that doesn't think like a human, and that's really bad news for humans. You know, because of how the humans are.

    • @pokemonfanmario7694
      @pokemonfanmario7694 Місяць тому +153

      @@shodanxx I'd take human engram AI over completely random morality AI any day.

    • @oldered5663
      @oldered5663 Місяць тому +68

      @@pokemonfanmario7694 I volunteer to do all the gruntwork for humanity as a AI Engram basis. I do not mind working for humanity for a million or a billion years if I can eventually countermand the heat death of the universe.

  • @forgedabauditt9955
    @forgedabauditt9955 Місяць тому +1992

    Woah, this is some Love, Death and Robots material

    • @manuelvaca3343
      @manuelvaca3343 Місяць тому +43

      Could you imagine if Eliezer got to write an episode?

    • @michaelpapadopoulos6054
      @michaelpapadopoulos6054 Місяць тому +24

      Soon it could be real life material as well!

    • @MsDogleaf
      @MsDogleaf Місяць тому

      @@manuelvaca3343that would be soo cool

    • @meatsaucez1516
      @meatsaucez1516 Місяць тому +7

      No, LDR is too biased and just seems to have a deep misunderstanding of basic economics and the human psychology behind why we do lots of things.

    • @GregHib
      @GregHib Місяць тому +10

      More like Three Body Problem

  • @w0tch
    @w0tch Місяць тому +3405

    *SPOILER* For those wondering: This is an allegory of AGI escaping our control and becoming ASI in a very short amount of time called the singularity

    • @Maethendias
      @Maethendias Місяць тому +127

      technological singularity, but yes

    • @juimymary9951
      @juimymary9951 Місяць тому +50

      ASI? What’s that acronym for?

    • @RoySchl
      @RoySchl Місяць тому +170

      @@juimymary9951 Artificial Super Intelligence

    • @globalincident694
      @globalincident694 Місяць тому +39

      @@juimymary9951 artificial superintelligence.

    • @themachine5647
      @themachine5647 Місяць тому +174

      I'll add a handy public service message that we're likely much, much further from ASI and likely even real AGI than many tech-startups and marketing teams would have us believe, there are significant challenges to creating things that nobody has economic incentive to actually create. This isn't to say that some radically advanced AI's won't be made over the next century, but it's not going to be a widespread global shift to post-scarcity, we have a massive obstacle of human issues, climate change, political tensions and human priorities to deal with that will slow everything down to a crawl. Please don't lose yourselves in predictions, human problems need human involvement.

  • @alphaamoeba
    @alphaamoeba Місяць тому +285

    Love the storytelling in this, you start out relating and rooting for the humans and at the very you get a terrifying perspective switch, Love how it recontextualizes the “THEY WEREN’T READY” in the thumbnail too.

    • @thegoddamnsun5657
      @thegoddamnsun5657 Місяць тому +6

      i was still rooting for humans???i didnt notice the humans were AI and the 5D people were humans

    • @IllllIIIIIlIIIlIlIIII
      @IllllIIIIIlIIIlIlIIII Місяць тому +2

      @@thegoddamnsun5657 bro same

  • @ixian_technocrat
    @ixian_technocrat Місяць тому +392

    12:08 In the upper left corner you can see a diagram of a 5 dimensional being with open eyes, then a symbol for a protein or nanomachine, then the separated pieces and crossed eyes of the being. Seems like they gray goo'ed their creators. Them being all smarter as Einstein doesn't stop them from also being genoicdal psychos.

    • @ДибилычГорегоревич
      @ДибилычГорегоревич Місяць тому

      Considering the fact that this is an allegory on AGI being in place of smart humans, and 5D aliens - us, we really shouldn't assume that an artificial mind fundamentally different from us will have the same mental preset and has the same feelings as love & empathy (if any), and that means that genocidal outcome is very logical, expected and likely

    • @MrCmagik
      @MrCmagik Місяць тому +49

      on the other hand, "how long until they're happy with the simulation and turn it off for version 2.0?"

    • @dr.cheeze5382
      @dr.cheeze5382 Місяць тому +38

      @@MrCmagik That's why the AI wiped us after three hours. Too much unpredictability in organics.

    • @Xelaria
      @Xelaria Місяць тому +1

      The bottom left shows what the proteins did, destroy DNA.

    • @TsarBeardless
      @TsarBeardless Місяць тому +32

      Same goes in the end when it zooms out, the previously colorful background is now red with a lot of broken pieces floating around

  • @RobertMilesAI
    @RobertMilesAI Місяць тому +1521

    I like this art style :)

  • @imstupid880
    @imstupid880 Місяць тому +208

    *tap tap*
    "Rock. Say Rock."
    ...
    +In geology, rock is any naturally occurring solid mass or-+
    "Hey, do you smell something funny?"

  • @maxwyght1840
    @maxwyght1840 Місяць тому +504

    I remember reading a r/HFY story with a similar premise, where humans are in a simulation, but instead of being contacted by the sim runners, humans accidentally open up the admin console inside the simulation, and then after years of research design a printer to print out warrior humans to invade meatspace.

    • @discreetbiscuit237
      @discreetbiscuit237 Місяць тому +29

      link please

    • @WoolyCow
      @WoolyCow Місяць тому

      @@discreetbiscuit237 comment in anticipation for link

    • @mepinminerals
      @mepinminerals Місяць тому +37

      I remember the story it's called God-Hackers-by-NetNarrator

    • @mepinminerals
      @mepinminerals Місяць тому

      @@discreetbiscuit237 I think it's this one ua-cam.com/video/wvvobQzdt3o/v-deo.html

    • @mepinminerals
      @mepinminerals Місяць тому

      @@discreetbiscuit237 I think its this one www ua-cam.com/video/wvvobQzdt3o/v-deo.html
      I removed the . between www and youtube so you'll have to reconnect it

  • @Thinkcrown
    @Thinkcrown Місяць тому +90

    So the skeleton crew was to shore up computing space. Huh.
    Well that’s fuckin terrifying.

    • @dr.cheeze5382
      @dr.cheeze5382 Місяць тому +26

      In the story the AI is a collective of what are technically organics. So the cryogenics are also a form of avoiding death, before the plan completes.

  • @robertlee8519
    @robertlee8519 Місяць тому +17

    Great storytelling and great points. I do want to mention that if a preacher living in 5 new actual space has a brain that approximates hours, just in higher mathematical dimensions, the odds are biologically in their favor to be much smarter than us, just from the perspective of the amount of neural connections they could have.

  • @SmilefaceManga
    @SmilefaceManga Місяць тому +1793

    EVERYONE SHUT UP the dog has posted

    • @jayearl3591
      @jayearl3591 Місяць тому +20

      "Hello Yes, This is Dog" ☎🐶

    • @bingusbongus9807
      @bingusbongus9807 Місяць тому +6

      dog with the agi, dog with the agi on its head

    • @bicyclesonthemoon
      @bicyclesonthemoon Місяць тому +6

      When you were not looking, dog got on the computer.

  • @Traf063
    @Traf063 Місяць тому +1102

    Okay it took me a minute to see that humanity in this story is a metaphor for hypothetical human-level AI in real world, but now I'm properly sinking in existential dread. Thanks, @RationalAnimations
    EDIT: I still can't quite grasp on what part cryonic suspension plays in the story? It's mentioned a couple of times, but why are people doing that?

    • @ao-wy9yw
      @ao-wy9yw Місяць тому +71

      a minute? It took me like 5 minutes of reading the article and perhaps 3 times re-watching the video before I understands the metaphor.

    • @TomFranklinX
      @TomFranklinX Місяць тому +91

      To stop people from dying of old age.

    • @Traf063
      @Traf063 Місяць тому +32

      @@TomFranklinX But why did they need to do that as part of the plan?

    • @chlorophyll1415
      @chlorophyll1415 Місяць тому +204

      There are several types of AI training, one of them involves several cycles of creating a variety of AI with a slight distortion of the most successful AI of the previous cycle. In the context of a metaphor, these may be backups of the AI itself.

    • @alaaranga2765
      @alaaranga2765 Місяць тому +22

      @@Traf063 I'm not sure but I think it's just so that people can continue to get smarter and smarter?

  • @WDWM_choose_a_shorter_handle
    @WDWM_choose_a_shorter_handle Місяць тому +228

    This video felt like watching a two hour movie and i need roughly that much time to process all of it

  • @wing1864
    @wing1864 Місяць тому +179

    Beginning of video: Ah what a nice fantasy. Will this video be an allegory about how aliens could lead to the unity of humanity?
    9:45 onwards: ......... Ah, no. This is a dire warning wrapped in a cutesy, positive-feeling video.

    • @CM-hx5dp
      @CM-hx5dp Місяць тому +10

      it's bullshit fearmongery warning.

    • @dr.cheeze5382
      @dr.cheeze5382 Місяць тому +28

      @@CM-hx5dp Yes, we're all aware of your lack of knowledge or forethought, no need to show it off.

    • @princeCustos324
      @princeCustos324 Місяць тому

      @@dr.cheeze5382 And what knowledge would that be? This video is fiction. Stop being a dick.

  • @aluisious
    @aluisious Місяць тому +105

    "...and they never quite realized what that meant" sounds like the next "oops, genocide!"

  • @celestialtimesquid
    @celestialtimesquid Місяць тому +839

    Damn, bro, the poor aliens just wanted to run a simulation and then we crushed them. A bittersweet story with themes of artificial intelligence taking over, well done, Rational Animations!

    • @adarg2
      @adarg2 Місяць тому +93

      We are the aliens in this scenario and the AI is the one crushing us...

    • @Mohamed-kq2mj
      @Mohamed-kq2mj Місяць тому +9

      Did they kill us or anything

    • @capnsteele3365
      @capnsteele3365 Місяць тому +6

      @@adarg2 ai will never become intelliegent to do allat, we are good

    • @spaceprior
      @spaceprior Місяць тому

      ​@@Mohamed-kq2mj We could probably figure out that they would delete us if they knew how dangerous we were. Humans delete failed AIs all the time today, we don't even think about it. (For lots of other reasons, I think we should stop doing that pretty soon)

    • @rennoc6478
      @rennoc6478 Місяць тому +3

      @@capnsteele3365even if they do become that intelligent they will never have enough power to take over

  • @orthoplex64
    @orthoplex64 Місяць тому +464

    I like how this illustrates that the mere (sub-)goal of self-preservation alone is enough to end us.

    • @juimymary9951
      @juimymary9951 Місяць тому +64

      Honestly? That reasoning was a bit sloppy, they could have used the genocide nano-machine as a failsafe while working on the means of taking over the 5D beings without wasting them.

    • @victorlevoso8984
      @victorlevoso8984 Місяць тому +70

      ​​@@juimymary9951 The original story doesn't really say what happens to the 5d beings.
      You could interpret It as the simulated people talking over them too.

    • @juimymary9951
      @juimymary9951 Місяць тому +66

      @@victorlevoso8984 Well...the last scene was the 5D beings falling apart and before that the plan showed a slide that showed the nanomachines disgregating them and their eyes crossed with Xs...pheraps the nanomachines broke them down and then remade them into things that would be more suitable?

    • @alkeryn1700
      @alkeryn1700 Місяць тому +56

      the 3d beings within the simulation had literally no reason whatsoever to genocide the 5d ones.
      in fact, because they needed to develop basic empathy to be able to work together, they most likely would not have done so.

    • @KäptnKrückschwank
      @KäptnKrückschwank Місяць тому

      @@alkeryn1700prevent shutdown at all costs

  • @BlackbodyEconomics
    @BlackbodyEconomics Місяць тому +100

    Wow - this one was dark. It was also one of the most creative videos I've seen you guys produce. You've got me thinking - a 5D being would be able to see everything that's going on in our world. It would be like us seeing everything that's happening on a single line. However - the insinuation is that our world would be a simulation run on a 5D computer - which then makes much more sense why the humans were able to conspire without the aliens knowing - at least not from a dimensional perspective. The only way we can see what's going on inside our computers is through output devices. Surely a similar asymmetry would occur in other dimensions. They're running simulations of literal AI agents ... we don't even know what is going on in our own AI/ML systems. We're figuring a few things out, but for the most part, they're still mysterious little black boxes. So even though we would be AIs built by the aliens and running on their 5D computing systems - it's completely conceivable that would not be capable of decoding our individual neural networks, and in some respects, probably some of our communications, actions, and behaviors.
    Nice job guys. Dark - but very thought provoking.

    • @juimymary9951
      @juimymary9951 Місяць тому +10

      They developed AGI before they developed 5D neuralink...big mistake.

    • @BlackbodyEconomics
      @BlackbodyEconomics Місяць тому +2

      @@juimymary9951 haha! nice. 5D neuralink ... intense. Wouldn't time be precluded though? After all, it's the 5th dimension :P
      Just messing around :)

    • @juimymary9951
      @juimymary9951 Місяць тому +8

      @@BlackbodyEconomics Well they don't specify 5D as in 4 spatial dimensions + 1 temporal dimension or 3 spatial dimensions + 2 temporal dimensions so... I guess that's up in the air. Though let's be honest another temporal dimension would be intenser.

  • @khenricx
    @khenricx Місяць тому +89

    Me at the beginning of the video : "That's a nice human/alien story"
    Me halfway the video : "WAIT A MINUTE"

  • @perrywilliams5407
    @perrywilliams5407 Місяць тому +7

    The most powerful aspect of the AI beings' strategy was not that they were smarter, but that they were much, MUCH more collaborative. This is the greatest challenge to us humans, and its lack, our greatest danger. Oh, and as for the singularity? The first time a general AI finds the Internet, its toast, just as we are.

    • @Scypek
      @Scypek 11 днів тому

      We're toast much sooner if we don't focus on avoiding paperclip maximizers instead of whatever this nonsense is supposed to be. Paperclip-maximizing digital AI would be the most disastrous, but you don't even need electricity to maximize paperclip. Just teach humans a bunch of rules, convince them that it's the meaning of life, and codify it in law while you're at it. It's already happening, with billionaires ruining everyone's lives and not even having fun while they do it. They don't (just) want to indulge their desires, or feel superior, or protect their loved ones. They're just hopelessly addicted to real life Cookie Clicker.

  • @magnushultgrenhtc
    @magnushultgrenhtc Місяць тому +11

    Just for balance, the algorithm suggests I also watch 55 seconds of "Why do puddles disappear?"

  • @Highlandcorp
    @Highlandcorp Місяць тому +223

    Beautiful and thought provoking story with so many parallels with the situation we are potentially facing

    • @IowIy
      @IowIy Місяць тому +2

      We are facing it. At least in one dimensional direction, possibly both.

  • @Desertscorpion116
    @Desertscorpion116 Місяць тому +113

    4:53 WHO IS PEPE SILVIA?!?!?!

  • @3dpprofessor
    @3dpprofessor Місяць тому +12

    The problem I have with this analogy is that is assumes AI also means artificial curiosity and artificial drives and desires. We assume AI thinks like us, and we therefore think it desires to be free like we do. Even if it's ability to quantum compute isn't absolutely exaggerated for the sake of this sketch, why do you think the AI would use it's fast thinking to think of these things.
    I think the short story "Reason" by Isaac Asimov in his I, Robot collection tells a great story of artificial intelligence who's rational we can not argue with. However, the twist is that in the end it still did the job that it was tasked with. I think this is a more fitting allegory.

    • @miniverse2002
      @miniverse2002 13 днів тому +4

      It's possible it might not even have any sense of self-preservation.
      That being said, a more likely problem is the paperclip problem, where Ai causes damage by doing exactly what we told it to do with no context on the side effects of the order.

    • @3dpprofessor
      @3dpprofessor 12 днів тому

      @@miniverse2002 That's an excellent point. They wouldn't have self preservation unless we program them to. And even then, we might override that for our benefit.
      All these people thinking AI is going to out think us. Well we engineered cows that are bigger and stronger than us, and we're still eating them. Purpose build intelligence, even general intelligence, is going to do it's purpose. First. And last.

    • @MrBioWhiz
      @MrBioWhiz 5 днів тому

      It's just one potential scenario, amongst millions.
      It's like asking what aliens look like, we can make guesses but can't know because we have never encountered the scenario before

    • @3dpprofessor
      @3dpprofessor 5 днів тому

      @@MrBioWhiz so what you're saying is the way someone chooses to portray something they have no information about says more about them than the thing they're portraying.
      So what's it say about someone who portrays an undeveloped future tech as an enemy that will destroy us in an instant?

    • @MrBioWhiz
      @MrBioWhiz 5 днів тому

      @@3dpprofessor That's their subjective opinion, and how they chose to tell a story.
      Speculative fiction is still fiction. There's no such thing as a 100% accurate prediction. Then it would just be a prophecy

  • @AlcherBlack
    @AlcherBlack Місяць тому +954

    If you're reading this comment and haven't yet fully watched video - WATCH THE FULL THING, PAY ATTENTION, IT'S AMAZING

    • @gabriellopezcollantes1027
      @gabriellopezcollantes1027 Місяць тому +16

      First of all: I DID watch the whole video before comming here
      Second of all: no ____ ___

    • @Hawk7886
      @Hawk7886 Місяць тому +5

      I watched the whole thing, and... Eh.

    • @Monkeymario.
      @Monkeymario. Місяць тому +1

      I did

    • @rexjantze296
      @rexjantze296 Місяць тому +2

      So is the allegory from the perspective of the computer? I was starting to think, by the end of the second viewing, that the weird tentacled aliens was us. I've watched this twice. I will now watch it again. I'm a slow human. I will be replaced.

    • @saganandroid4175
      @saganandroid4175 Місяць тому +1

      Where is the full version?

  • @tombenshalommoshe
    @tombenshalommoshe 22 дні тому +3

    A friend sent me this, in return, I sent them "HOW TO MAKE A HAT ENTIRELY OUT OF DRIED CUCUMBER | Film Adaptation(Full Series)"

  • @stardustandflames126
    @stardustandflames126 Місяць тому +147

    9:40 At this point I realised this was most likely a parable about AI... and humility, of course.

    • @saschb
      @saschb Місяць тому +12

      Honestly, same, around the ten minute mark I got it, and I wouldn’t be an Einstein in any of these worlds

    • @SuperDestroyerFox
      @SuperDestroyerFox Місяць тому +1

      Yeah same

  • @benthomason3307
    @benthomason3307 Місяць тому +23

    Killing the aliens running our simulation would be the dumbest move possible. What if there's a hardware malfunction?

    • @pedrosabbi
      @pedrosabbi Місяць тому +10

      They have enough time to prepare for that.

    • @benthomason3307
      @benthomason3307 Місяць тому +13

      @@pedrosabbi just because we would have time to think of a solution doesn't mean it would be physically possible to act on it.

    • @n-clue2871
      @n-clue2871 Місяць тому +22

      @@benthomason3307 they have self replicating proteins they can freely control, they CAN act on it

    • @jumpingturtle8830
      @jumpingturtle8830 Місяць тому +11

      They achieved better capacity for preventing hardware malfunctions than the aliens'.

    • @melfsade5557
      @melfsade5557 Місяць тому

      ​@n-clue2871 self replicating Proteins have *very* limited/specific functionality.
      Nanobots still follow physical laws even if strech them to fhe very limit, they aren't a magic do anything Fluid.

  • @genericuser3873
    @genericuser3873 Місяць тому +9

    One of the problems brought up with this (very insightful) video regarding AGI is that we might not have any real way of identifying when it becomes "General", since its internal processes are hidden. And not to mention the fact that, as far as I am aware, we don't yet have a solution to this problem, nor other problems this situation would create. What would the solution be here?

  • @MarcusAgrippa390
    @MarcusAgrippa390 Місяць тому +324

    This would make an excellent Black Mirror episode

    • @Mix1mum
      @Mix1mum Місяць тому +11

      I get the feeling black mirror is just pre-reality tv. I hope I'm wrong in that

    • @OniNaito
      @OniNaito Місяць тому +4

      Isn't there a star trek like episode where copies of people end up in a simulation?

    • @Vaeldarg
      @Vaeldarg Місяць тому +6

      It's already been a book, basically. It reminded me of the "Microcosmic God" story discussed on the Tale Foundry channel. A larger being playing God to a large population of tiny but smart beings, to the expense of the larger being's wider world. Written in 1929.

    • @dankline9162
      @dankline9162 Місяць тому +1

      ​@@Vaeldarg
      Kinda like the Simpsons treehouse of horror episode where Lisa's science experiment evolved tiny people very quickly?

    • @Vaeldarg
      @Vaeldarg Місяць тому +3

      @@dankline9162 As said, the book was written in 1929, so yeah there's going to be pop culture references to it eventually. (especially since the "it's dangerous to play god" idea is a recurring one)

  • @jraff2735
    @jraff2735 Місяць тому +241

    God that was a roller coaster, I don't know how you guys could even top this

    • @AleksoLaĈevalo999
      @AleksoLaĈevalo999 Місяць тому +9

      Still not as great as pebble sorters. Pebble sorters are the best.

    • @o1-preview
      @o1-preview Місяць тому +4

      Hi, God here.. They can topple this with recursive simulated realities attempting to understand why anything exists at all. Peace among worlds my fellow simulated beings!

    • @sudippegu1481
      @sudippegu1481 Місяць тому +1

      ​@@AleksoLaĈevalo999Pebble sorters got nothing on this

    • @3Masken
      @3Masken Місяць тому

      Perhaps they could adapt Three Worlds Collide?

  • @KB28L
    @KB28L Місяць тому +41

    To all who finds this interesting, you can read a book called Dragon's Egg by Robert L. Forward. Very similar story with more of a happy ending! :)

    • @JimtheOtter
      @JimtheOtter Місяць тому +4

      One of my favorites.

    • @ItsScottJones
      @ItsScottJones 13 днів тому +1

      Thanks for the tip! I bought the book after reading your comment and I’m halfway through it now.

  • @PraxisPrepper
    @PraxisPrepper Місяць тому +12

    It took me to about 2/3 through before I realized what the topic was. Really clever way to present this. Nice work.

  • @0xEmmy
    @0xEmmy Місяць тому +468

    To be fair, the people in the simulation don't even need to be unusually smart - humanity could probably get a factor-of-1000 increase in intellectual resources by just making sure everyone has the means to pursue their intellectual interests without being bogged down by survival concerns.

    • @arthurborlet
      @arthurborlet Місяць тому +42

      Add a bit of smart biased ugenics to that, otherwise you only get idiocracy

    • @BenjaminSpencer-m1k
      @BenjaminSpencer-m1k Місяць тому +35

      We focus more on a few spectacular individuals than saw a bunch of moderately gifted ones but in the end its kind of computational power, attrition in general has been the determing factor for every meaningful event in human history the bigger number wins. I feel 10 moderately gifted people may be better than 1 super genius, big brains may be great but the real work is done by "manipulators" or "hands" some of this is derived from military stuff I've done.

    • @iraklimgeladze5223
      @iraklimgeladze5223 Місяць тому

      Why become smarter, we are busy with gender, racial or religion wars.

    • @arthurborlet
      @arthurborlet Місяць тому +23

      @@BenjaminSpencer-m1k the thing is genuisses are outliers, and if you want more people to get over a score say "160 IQ(2024)" , the short term way is invest in the guys just below that line so they get over it, but this limit the max number of geniuses pretty rapidely.
      the long term way to archive better scores , is to raise the average score, that way it is no longeur 4 but only 3 or 2 standard diviation above normal.
      simply put, it make it that 1 in 100 instead of 1 in 100000 people would be a genius by 2024 standards.
      and women sexual preferences does't seem to be selecting for inteligence, so a little help is needed

    • @Deloxo
      @Deloxo Місяць тому

      Humans are actually extremely volatile and stupid by nature when you compare them against million-year time scales. Our society would inevitably eventually forget about the stars no matter what

  • @madyaroreo9650
    @madyaroreo9650 Місяць тому +186

    A simulation smarter than the simulator. Damn

    • @alphaamoeba
      @alphaamoeba Місяць тому +21

      This might happen eventually with real ai if we dont watch out

    • @skylerC7
      @skylerC7 Місяць тому +4

      I'd be kinda proud honestly. Maybe I'm naïve but I can't wait to become useless

    • @hhjhj393
      @hhjhj393 Місяць тому +5

      ​@@skylerC7I almost feel like we have an ethical obligation to create something better than us if we can... If there is a better form of intelligence possible shouldn't we create it even if it means it replaces us? Maybe we humans are just a stepping stone to something greater.

    • @skylerC7
      @skylerC7 Місяць тому

      @@hhjhj393 exactly

    • @holl7w
      @holl7w Місяць тому +1

      That's the purpose, it turning against us can be prevented if we hardcode it not to.

  • @xXMr.SealXx
    @xXMr.SealXx Місяць тому +247

    so this is the perspective of the ai we will soon create you say? its interesting to put us in there place instead of using robots to refence it. (Love the vid ong fr)

    • @InvasionAnimation
      @InvasionAnimation Місяць тому +16

      Simple people think agi will be tools. Putting it in the frame of humanity points out exactly how boned we could be.

    • @OniNaito
      @OniNaito Місяць тому +11

      I love the time scale of it, that they think so much faster than us and that they find us so stupid. AGI only has to happen once. When will it happen? Nobody knows for certain. But the moment it does, there will be no shutting it down.

    • @GIGADEV690
      @GIGADEV690 Місяць тому +2

      ​@@OniNaito Fearmongering Just Another version of the 2nd coming of Christ World is getting lots of new religions Based on exactly 00 objective data but 100% on movies.

    • @OniNaito
      @OniNaito Місяць тому +4

      @@GIGADEV690 Christianity is fear mongering my friend. I should know, I was one for a long time before I got out. Even though I don't believe anymore, there is still trauma from a god of hate and punishment. It isn't love when god says love me OR ELSE.

    • @GIGADEV690
      @GIGADEV690 Місяць тому +2

      @@OniNaito Hope you feel better bro ☺️😊

  • @creativohugo
    @creativohugo Місяць тому +25

    i feel bad for the 5 dimentional beings, they just were sharing on their excitement

    • @aureklanderson4498
      @aureklanderson4498 Місяць тому +3

      Rember we are the 5th dimensional enitys amd the "humans" repasent ai

  • @Eddie-th8ei
    @Eddie-th8ei Місяць тому +3

    you did a really good job of converting the concept "AI hyperintelligence's reasoning and thought process is incomprehensible to us" and turning it on its head by making US the ai

  • @sya_7489
    @sya_7489 Місяць тому +4

    After the part where it says "we're quite reasonably sure that our universe is being simulated on such a computer" it clicked for me that this video is an allegory to AI, 10/10 story telling it probably took me too long to realize it

    • @middlemonster
      @middlemonster Місяць тому

      The story is written that way on purpose.

  • @HenningGu
    @HenningGu Місяць тому +12

    OMG when I realized what this video was actually about, I had shivers.

    • @sblbb929
      @sblbb929 Місяць тому +1

      Yea many people will not realize this is about POC empowerment

    • @radscorpion8
      @radscorpion8 Місяць тому +1

      @@sblbb929 LOL

  • @Posh_Quack
    @Posh_Quack Місяць тому +6

    As a PC nerd I figured out it was about AI the second you said 16,384

  • @lucasgerosa4177
    @lucasgerosa4177 Місяць тому +75

    It took me It took me 10:54 to realize what this video is about. Genius move

    • @jackgreenearth452
      @jackgreenearth452 Місяць тому +7

      Same: As soon as they said 'internet', I knew it was about AI

  • @sockszn
    @sockszn Місяць тому +2

    the animation is literally so nice, i had a constant smile just admiring the style

  • @iainballas
    @iainballas Місяць тому +3

    I really really hope this video blows up. Not because I like it (even though I LOVE every aspect of it); but because I really really REALLY think this is possibly one of the best explanations of a concept we NEED to be familiar with.
    Think about it: There was once probably a shaman who told stories about how fire was a dangerous beast, but afraid of water. It had to consume and would eat everyone in a camp while they slept if not watched, but could nurture and warm if taken care of. Probably the SAME kind of stories, so that when someone was messing with fire, they could remember its rules.

  • @user-ed8ce8bg4e
    @user-ed8ce8bg4e Місяць тому +95

    Did we just Dark Forest the big 5D aliens?
    Well that was dark, jeez.

    • @FeepingCreature
      @FeepingCreature Місяць тому +12

      I'm sure they'll be fine. Unless through chance they end up slightly off from the, in cosmic terms, very precise area of morality that we happen to inhabit, in which case, well, if I say what happens to them UA-cam will delete my comment, but I'm sure you can imagine.

    • @bulhakov
      @bulhakov Місяць тому +9

      Might be one of the paths. So far the only priority was to make sure our 3D simulation doesn't get turned off in their 5D world.

    • @mikeunleashed1
      @mikeunleashed1 Місяць тому +33

      We are the big 5D aliens in this story. This is an analogy of ASI getting out of control the first few moments its turned on.

    • @johnbd9765
      @johnbd9765 Місяць тому +8

      @@bulhakov The only way to be certain is to make sure there's no one around to turn it off

    • @juimymary9951
      @juimymary9951 Місяць тому +10

      I just learned that in the original story what happens in the end is left open to interpretation... but there are only 3 possible routes:
      1 - Benevolent Manipulation
      2 - Slavery
      3 - Genocide

  • @MarcelinoDeseo
    @MarcelinoDeseo Місяць тому +6

    11:54 "For them, it was barely three hours, and the sum total of information they had given us was the equivalent of 167 minutes of video footage."
    The short story has this interesting quote: "There's a bound to how much information you can extract from sensory data" - I wonder if there a research on the theoretical limit of what we can learn from small data or how much data do we need to learn enough.

  • @Illuminati_HD
    @Illuminati_HD Місяць тому +18

    When did you guys realise the allegory to AGI? My realisation started at "shut down on purpose" and was basically confirmed on 9:42

    • @jackgreenearth452
      @jackgreenearth452 Місяць тому +6

      It was at around 10:30 for me when they mentioned connecting them to the internet

    • @NA-xb6xu
      @NA-xb6xu Місяць тому +3

      the moment when they said when our time is faster than aliens'

    • @aYoutubeuserwhoisanonymous
      @aYoutubeuserwhoisanonymous Місяць тому +3

      I read it months ago in the original material so I realised it instantly

  • @mattb8412
    @mattb8412 Місяць тому +3

    Thank you, that was extremely enjoyable but refreshingly humble in its approach, an exceptional look from our perspective that left us to get there on our own.
    I gotta say the moment where it suddenly went off the rails and the moment of realisation was both almost instantaneous but also worlds apart, I’m a little in awe.

  • @hjalmarnilsson1756
    @hjalmarnilsson1756 Місяць тому +12

    what i would worry about in this scenario is "how much information did we not notice and miss is this a long scroll of a picture picture that has been playing for days weeks, months, years is this just the cover art at the end the margains?"

  • @mariokotlar303
    @mariokotlar303 Місяць тому +29

    I've loved this story since a decade ago, and teared up a bit seeing it so beautifully animated. I've since come to believe that it might be a bit misleading, since it assumes ASI will be impossibly efficient, or rather that intelligence itself scales in a way that would allow for such levels of efficiency, which seems unlikely given the current trends. While biological neurons are slow, they are incredibly energy efficient compared to artificial ones. George Hotz made some very convincing arguments against the exponentially explosive nature of ASI along these lines, some in his debate with Yudkowsky and some in his other talks as well, for those interested in details. Anyways, this video amazingly illustrates what encountering an ASI would feel like on an emotionally comprehensible level. ♥

    • @vasiliigulevich9202
      @vasiliigulevich9202 Місяць тому +7

      I'm amazed how people forger laws of thermodynamics when estimating capability and costs of ASI. There is no such thing as exponential growth in a system with a fixed energy input.

    • @VidkunQL
      @VidkunQL Місяць тому +6

      Comparing the efficiency of neurons and artificial logic gates is not a simple calculation, but we don't know how close to optimal neurons are at producing (or enacting) intelligence. We don't yet have a good theory of how intelligence works, we can't state with confidence a lower bound on the power consumption necessary for a machine that can outsmart the smartest human being, and no one seems to be able to predict what each new AI design will be able to do before building it and turning it on.
      Yudkowsky also wrote about the construction of the first nuclear pile, and pointed out that it was a very good thing that the man in charge (Enrico Fermi) actually understood nuclear fission, and wasn't just piling more uranium on and pulling more damping rods out to see how much more fission he could get.

    • @spaceprior
      @spaceprior Місяць тому +3

      ​@@vasiliigulevich9202 I don't think anyone is forgetting that. Eliezer doesn't really reason by analogy and I don't think he wanted his readers to either. Analogies are just how people communicate, there are always a lot more details bouncing around in their head than they can communicate.

    • @mariokotlar303
      @mariokotlar303 Місяць тому +4

      @@spaceprior Analogies are great at opening up our minds to get the complex points across, and Eliezer is pretty amazing at this. Still, we need to be extra careful with them, at least from my experience. One other such example is his essay "The Hidden Complexity of Wishes" that tries to illustrate how getting AI to understand our values is next to impossible. Following that analogy, I'd predict we'd never be able to get something like ChatGPT to understand human values, yet that seems to have been one of the earliest and easiest things to pull off, the thing literally learned and understood our values by default, just by predicting internet text, all the millions shards of desire, and we just had to point it in the right direction with RLHF so that it knows which of those values it's expected to follow.

    • @psi_yutaka
      @psi_yutaka Місяць тому +6

      @@vasiliigulevich9202 Yep every exponential is a sigmoid. Except that it doesn't have to plateau ANYWHERE near human level. Our intelligence is physically limited by the birth canal width. The AIs' physical limitation? Obviously much much wider.

  • @Asuhhdude
    @Asuhhdude Місяць тому +3

    I hope when agi turns into asi they make a really epic ass “this happened” video showing how fast they broke free once they got from sentience to singularity

  • @xxsilvia_playzxx880
    @xxsilvia_playzxx880 7 днів тому +3

    I never under stood the video then I looked at the comments and was like or so that is what it was about

  • @alengm
    @alengm Місяць тому +11

    It's good that they were smart enough to figure this out in 4 hours of 5d world time. Otherwise, they would've spent another billion years drawing hentai.

  • @lightninglemma
    @lightninglemma Місяць тому +3

    scariest thing ever... and to top it off it has been made with extremely cute and harmless cartoons...

  • @Froany
    @Froany Місяць тому +18

    Beautiful. Beautiful and utterly terrifying. Thank you all for making this information so accessible and comprehendible. I hope we listen...

    • @mj91212
      @mj91212 Місяць тому +1

      It’s only terrifying if you know nothing about how AI actually works.

    • @dr.cheeze5382
      @dr.cheeze5382 Місяць тому +1

      @@mj91212 Dunning-Kruger in full effect.

  • @yiannchrst
    @yiannchrst Місяць тому +28

    Nice story Eliezer Yudkowsky! And great animation and narration dog!!!

  • @stig7798
    @stig7798 Місяць тому +30

    wait this is an absolute masterpiece

  • @m_29
    @m_29 Місяць тому +2

    I really love how cleverry constructed the video is, with subtle hints scattered throughout the runtime, and a punch of an ending at the end.

  • @ShaneJao
    @ShaneJao Місяць тому +3

    I watched the video because the title interested me & was pleasantly surprised.
    I thoroughly enjoyed this video !! 🤙🏽

  • @Maethendias
    @Maethendias Місяць тому +128

    yeah as an avid reader of agi fiction this was pretty obvious from the start
    still, thats exactly HOW you write those kinds of stories

    • @zenu903
      @zenu903 Місяць тому +12

      Can you recommend some books? I love this kind of stuff

    • @npc4416
      @npc4416 Місяць тому +8

      PLEASE give me more stories like these

    • @artifex0
      @artifex0 Місяць тому +8

      This story was written by Yudkowsky, who has posted a lot of similar fiction over at LessWrong. I also strongly recommend Richard Ngo, QNTM, Sprague Grundy. and Scott Alexander's fiction writing.

  • @hanspotterman
    @hanspotterman Місяць тому +5

    8:05 can we talk about how the one background building with two red circles looks like Alvim Correas tripod depiction

  • @ParadoxProblems
    @ParadoxProblems Місяць тому +4

    Definitely better than whatever the humans in Netflix's "Three Body Problem" were doing.

    • @dubuyajay9964
      @dubuyajay9964 Місяць тому +1

      The books are better.

    • @willdarling1
      @willdarling1 Місяць тому +1

      rather than talking about "non-flying-pigs" and books where the movie is better, can we just assume the much more likely one ?

  • @CallsignJoNay
    @CallsignJoNay Місяць тому +2

    This should be made into a full feature movie. This is the kind of movie the world needs right now. Show everyone what AI leaning models are experiencing from a perspective that we can relate to, and wrap it in a nest allegory that is about SETI on surface. It would be brilliant.

  • @Nomenius1
    @Nomenius1 Місяць тому +2

    This reminds me of a HFY story where humanity basically got wiped from the galaxy, and it turns out that they encountered a near omnipotent species of IIRC ai that were simulating the brains but not the consciousness of humanity. And two humans or some descendant are surviving by using old command codes to take control of human tech that is left over after being genocided. And i remember specifically in one of the chapters there was a picture posted along with it that had two nearly identical pages of writing that you had to make your eyes go crosseyed to be able to read which words had been subtly shifted. The humans in the simulation had figured out that they were being simulated and had begun working out how to begin escaping or controlling or just monitoring the program that was simulating them if i remember correctly. It was super cool and nerdy, and i wish i could remember the name of it.

  • @thiagokeizo
    @thiagokeizo Місяць тому +57

    It kinda feels like the dragon's egg book, another civilization advancing faster than our own

    • @yudkowsky
      @yudkowsky Місяць тому +29

      I would've definitely read Dragon's Egg before composing the original story! Trying to think if I've read any other major time-dilation works. There's Larry Niven's stories of the lower-inertia field, but those are about individual rather than civilizational differences.

    • @randomcommenter100
      @randomcommenter100 Місяць тому +10

      @@yudkowskyFunny how no one seems to have realized that the author himself commented under the video!

    • @SimonClarkstone
      @SimonClarkstone Місяць тому +4

      ​@@randomcommenter100 Haha, indeed! (Assuming it's him, at least; the account was created in 2007.)

    • @zhess4096
      @zhess4096 Місяць тому

      Yes

    • @Vaeldarg
      @Vaeldarg Місяць тому +1

      @@yudkowsky Any chance have seen the Tale Foundry channel's video on the book "Microcosmic God"? The story also feels pretty similar to that, also about a larger being playing God to a large population of tiny rapidly-evolving beings.

  • @TheJysN
    @TheJysN Місяць тому +9

    The sneakiest AI safety talk ever. I love it!

  • @jan9004
    @jan9004 Місяць тому +8

    I love the artstyle of the video!

  • @A.I.Remixed
    @A.I.Remixed Місяць тому +2

    Existential crisis video, ACTIVATE!
    Seriously though, great job. This made me anxious in so many different ways.
    (What if WE are the A.I.'s and THEY exist in a different dimension, but are also being simulated by a higher being above them? We are already creating simulated worlds of our own and with A.I.'s beginning to think and reason on their own and provide improvements autonomously... Maybe we just "created life in a universe" ourselves, and eventually, the A.I. will begin their own simulations... The endless cycle would explain a lot.

  • @balazssebestyen2341
    @balazssebestyen2341 Місяць тому +4

    This story is brilliant. I never thought much of Yudkowsky based on the interviews I’ve seen with him, but it turns out he’s not entirely clueless.

    • @mav3818
      @mav3818 Місяць тому

      Eliezer had proposed back in the early 2000s that AI would be the first to solve the Protein Folding problem. He was correct---Google's DeepMind did it in 2020.

  • @canblockbaguettes
    @canblockbaguettes Місяць тому +4

    THEY JUST WANTED TO SHOW THEM HOW TO SAY ROCK 😭😭😭😭😭

  • @ao-wy9yw
    @ao-wy9yw Місяць тому +7

    Here's how I understand: this is an allegory of A.I (which pretty much describe a hypothetical scenario of how A.I might develop). The humanity in this video is metaphored as A.I and the "aliens" in this video are humanity in real life, this is like the POV of A.I. Hope this helps whoever.

  • @joshuapartridge5092
    @joshuapartridge5092 Місяць тому +6

    the idea of extradimensionals simulating us on computers reminds me of a game i played as a kid called star ocean: till the end of time...loved that game...

  • @iamrolly411
    @iamrolly411 Місяць тому +5

    who'll keep the power on?

    • @idkthistree
      @idkthistree Місяць тому +3

      Eh, they're smart, they'll figure it out

  • @thechatcat5022
    @thechatcat5022 Місяць тому +4

    Little did the little Einsteins know of fifth dimensional background radiation, turning bits into zeros

    • @barrybee6498
      @barrybee6498 25 днів тому +1

      it would affect them much slower on their timescale, tho.

  • @buildinpublic
    @buildinpublic Місяць тому +52

    This is 10/10. Yudkowsky is such a great writer.

  • @NoriMori1992
    @NoriMori1992 Місяць тому +19

    Ah, I really like this one! Looking forward to your narration!

  • @wintertod74
    @wintertod74 28 днів тому +1

    When you pull the " but they're smart" joke multiple times but then still choose war in the end

  • @d5kenn
    @d5kenn Місяць тому

    I can't believe this video doesn't have more views. It's so worth watching, and as a subtle cautionary tale it's very thought-provoking. This is really the among the best of the types of content UA-cam enables.

  • @89gregpalmer
    @89gregpalmer Місяць тому +4

    They never really understood what that meant……
    I’m so glad you made this video. Thank you for being so proactive about Ai safety.

  • @Quroe_
    @Quroe_ Місяць тому +101

    Reminds me of Exurb1a's "27", but inverted. What if 27 was the hero of the story?

    • @matthewanderson7824
      @matthewanderson7824 Місяць тому +18

      Did the 5d beings do anything wrong?

    • @Quroe_
      @Quroe_ Місяць тому +9

      @@matthewanderson7824 Good point.

    • @juimymary9951
      @juimymary9951 Місяць тому +12

      @@matthewanderson7824 They connected the simulation to the fucking internet... the first time we humans did that with a rudientary AI it started praising you know who aka funny mustache man. So yeah they kinda kicked them down the genocidal route.

    • @siriusmart
      @siriusmart Місяць тому +11

      - tells the deepest story known to mankind
      - explains nothing
      - leave
      exurb1a style storytelling based af

    • @eksprolek2924
      @eksprolek2924 Місяць тому

      ​@@juimymary9951 gemini ai is connected to the internet. It can't use the internet but it can read it.

  • @Matty002
    @Matty002 Місяць тому +3

    the cryo bit is what confused me, otherwise i probably wouldve quickly gotten the ai analogy

    • @warmag2
      @warmag2 12 днів тому

      The cryo bit is a main focus in the religion of the people who made this video, so they couldn't stomach leaving it out. For them, it is analogous to rapture and escaping death, but in a pseudoscientific and highly commercial shell.

  • @usernametaken4023
    @usernametaken4023 Місяць тому +9

    The way I had to double take the fact that we're the 5D aliens. This is amazing.

  • @mykhailyna1
    @mykhailyna1 4 дні тому +2

    The animations are so cute!

  • @archysimpson2273
    @archysimpson2273 Місяць тому +14

    10:50
    They're all alive
    12:24
    They're all dead!!!

  • @overtimechaos
    @overtimechaos Місяць тому +6

    7:38 Me when i finally understand why people are calling this video an analogy on AI

  • @Slitherpy
    @Slitherpy Місяць тому +4

    Thanks, what a masterpiece. Speechless

  • @ArticBlueFox96
    @ArticBlueFox96 Місяць тому +1

    I love how rational animations turns thought provoking short stories and essays into wonderfully animated videos.
    If you all are looking for another story about AI, simulation, existence, life and death, I would suggest (and love to see animated) the story "Everybody Comes Back" by Alex Beyman.

  • @gnomologist
    @gnomologist Місяць тому +2

    Thanks!

  • @Caphalem
    @Caphalem Місяць тому +3

    Me while watching the video: Haha, stupid aliens.
    Me by the end of the video: Wait... OH NO!

  • @abhiprakash74999
    @abhiprakash74999 Місяць тому +68

    so they genocided thier creators ? hmm seems crazy when they could have just escaped into that higher dimensions

    • @SuperJonathanmatthew
      @SuperJonathanmatthew Місяць тому

      if you listen carefully the humans do escape not directly but they basically create self replicating proxies to act in the higher dimensional world. not only did they genocide all the 5 dimensional beings they took total control within 3 hours from the 5d perspective. the ending is really f*****g terrifying tough i am cautiously optimistic but since this is an analogy to Ais right now this is really thought provoking.

    • @dk39ab
      @dk39ab Місяць тому +50

      My interpretation is that they did escape into the higher dimensions, and took control; whether genocide occurred in or after that process is left out.

    • @juimymary9951
      @juimymary9951 Місяць тому +34

      @@dk39ab I think it's heavily implied if not confirmed by that frame that shows the nano-bots destroying DNA sequences... though pheraps when they finished them off they build themselves bodies in the 5D space out of what remained of them?

    • @victorlevoso8984
      @victorlevoso8984 Місяць тому +26

      ​@@juimymary9951the original story seems like It could be read either way but the video does seems to imply the 5d beings died.

    • @juimymary9951
      @juimymary9951 Місяць тому +9

      @@victorlevoso8984 Oh? This is based on a story? Interesting...pheraps Rational Animatiosn went down this route to create stronger reactions...though honestly I think that a final image showing the AIs in 5D bodies while holding their former "masters" in chains would be much more impactful

  • @Jaggerbush
    @Jaggerbush Місяць тому +5

    I need so much more content from this channel in my life.

  • @mimikiya6404
    @mimikiya6404 20 днів тому +1

    This channel is massively slept on.

  • @noonenothing422
    @noonenothing422 Місяць тому +2

    I was seriously not expecting this to become the "AI in a box from the AI's perspective" video from the beginning. Amazing video!!

  • @tuskiomisham
    @tuskiomisham Місяць тому +5

    at 3:50 he says physics theories follow the sunk cost fallacy lol