@@serenalaurence1492 Yep, I spend a few hours trying it with the end game tables, and didn't find any logic behind the moves that really decrease the number before checkmate. That's why I wonder in real tournaments, how many players are really able to win that endgame before the 50 moves rule. It even seems more difficult than the bishop+knight stuff ...
if it's just the queen and the king vs the rook and the king, try to capture the rook first using your queen with a fork, or skewer the king to its rook if possible. if they try to keep their king next to their rook and defend eachother, bring your king over to help with the fight
@@tontonbeber4555 there are several defence strategies and for each one there is a counter and you can actually understand how that works. However, if the player with a rook knows how to defend and the player with a queen didn't study this endgame it's a 99% draw. I once was in that situation with a rook and my opponent didn't even break the third rank defence.
First move Rxd7...correct! Second move Ra7. ... No. Rd4+. I rejected the c7+, but thought in terms of mobility. d4+ has the King protecting. Response to Kc3: Rd3+? Yes! But not for the reason I thought for the followup. Response to Kc5: Rd5+. If RxR, f8. If king moves, white rook takes black. If pawn takes rook, king takes rook. Survey says? Yes!
2:30 Hey. Actually you are wrong. After Ke6 you can't play Kd4 because of Rd7+. And if you play e4 after Ke6, I'm just going to play Kf5 and whatever you play after I'll play Re7 and move my King to f3 and take you pawn. And that is winning Rook endgame
Oddly at 1200 and below a Queen and King vs a Rookm a Pawn, and a king is almost always a draw. Yes the side with the Queen might not play optimally. But you'd think that if his opponent was also in that rating level, both would make mistakes and they'd cancel each other out.
I did actually figure this out. Admittedly my reasoning for the first move was just "free pawn", so I suppose I was right for the wrong reasons, but still.
Two moves at beggining were intuitional for me. Evenn if Im drunka and my best level of solved practice was about 1500. Ending was harder, but start is easy. Thanks for next great puzzle.
You've posted a few puzzles that stumped me. This wasn't one of them. You spoke of this one being harder, I found this one to be easier than some others you've offered us. Maybe that's just me.
to be honest, i think i dont really like the piece sounds, theyre kinda distracting, sure i can import the position to a soundless board but then again i like when you explain it without the sounds
@3:05 why not the rook at e7? it looks the simplest way of winning without any tricks rook e7 > if rook f6 > king e5 > and where ever the rook goes black loses the pawn and now you can trade either the pawn or rook for blacks rook at some point and just go for the checkmate either with the queen promote or rook promotion there are so many ways to win this position
i believe black can draw the game by just shuffling the rook along the f-file as you have no way of queening without skewering your pawn and their rook
You don't really have to queen. If the rook moves anywhere on the f file other than f5, it opens e5 for the king. If the rook then goes anywhere other than f6, your queen takes their pawn and is now defending your pawn. Then with your remaining rook and pawn the best they can do is trade their rook for your pawn, and a king and rook vs a king is a win. If the rook moves off the F file to stop your king from moving to e5, you get a queen.
black doesn't have to do anything they can just move around their king. Lets say u take the black pawn on e6 then the opponent just captures your pawn which is promoting. You are not actually threatening anything.
On the future maybe you could give some teaching about the strategy to win the queen vs rook. I know it's winning but not so simple
I think he has like an hour long video of him studying it and it is extremely difficult, very engine-like endgame
@@serenalaurence1492 Yep, I spend a few hours trying it with the end game tables, and didn't find any logic behind the moves that really decrease the number before checkmate. That's why I wonder in real tournaments, how many players are really able to win that endgame before the 50 moves rule. It even seems more difficult than the bishop+knight stuff ...
if it's just the queen and the king vs the rook and the king, try to capture the rook first using your queen with a fork, or skewer the king to its rook if possible. if they try to keep their king next to their rook and defend eachother, bring your king over to help with the fight
@@tontonbeber4555 there are several defence strategies and for each one there is a counter and you can actually understand how that works. However, if the player with a rook knows how to defend and the player with a queen didn't study this endgame it's a 99% draw. I once was in that situation with a rook and my opponent didn't even break the third rank defence.
@@tontonbeber4555bishop and knight is actually not very hard if you learn some simple strategies. Daniel Naroditsky has a phenomenal video on it
I love the sounds the pieces make when they move
Same
I find it annoying and distracting.
First move Rxd7...correct!
Second move Ra7. ... No. Rd4+. I rejected the c7+, but thought in terms of mobility. d4+ has the King protecting.
Response to Kc3: Rd3+? Yes! But not for the reason I thought for the followup.
Response to Kc5: Rd5+. If RxR, f8. If king moves, white rook takes black. If pawn takes rook, king takes rook. Survey says? Yes!
I like the part where the rook did a Ring Around The Rosie on the king two different but similar ways
2:30 Hey. Actually you are wrong. After Ke6 you can't play Kd4 because of Rd7+. And if you play e4 after Ke6, I'm just going to play Kf5 and whatever you play after I'll play Re7 and move my King to f3 and take you pawn. And that is winning Rook endgame
These last few puzzles have been hard as hell.
I am craving to get a video explaining how to win a queen/rook endgame in general. a part of the easy Phillidore position. please.
Great puzzle
Oddly at 1200 and below a Queen and King vs a Rookm a Pawn, and a king is almost always a draw. Yes the side with the Queen might not play optimally. But you'd think that if his opponent was also in that rating level, both would make mistakes and they'd cancel each other out.
I did actually figure this out. Admittedly my reasoning for the first move was just "free pawn", so I suppose I was right for the wrong reasons, but still.
Yep, not so easy but those are the ones I like. I didn't get it all
Two moves at beggining were intuitional for me. Evenn if Im drunka and my best level of solved practice was about 1500. Ending was harder, but start is easy. Thanks for next great puzzle.
3:04 After Rd7-Rf5, why not Re7?? Coz if black moves anywhere on the F file, we just slide the king up with ke5 and grab the pawn???
You've posted a few puzzles that stumped me. This wasn't one of them. You spoke of this one being harder, I found this one to be easier than some others you've offered us. Maybe that's just me.
I saw that one up to Rf5, but couldn't find the followup. Nice puzzle.
Nice puzzle.Thanks.
Yes, show us the Queen vs Rook endgame.
Can you do a: White to play and LOSE?
Got it All RIGHT!!!!
i saw it all, first time i ever got the whole thing
for the algorythm
Conclusion
: Win rook vs queen endgame
These are awesome puzzles Nelson :)
This was way too easy.
How do you get to this starting position with the king and queen pawns? :)
3:20 I'm not good at these; what's the problem with rook to e7 here?
I normally don't even get the first move right on these but this time I did! Yay!
what would be problem of Re7 as a second move?
Very nice.
to be honest, i think i dont really like the piece sounds, theyre kinda distracting, sure i can import the position to a soundless board but then again i like when you explain it without the sounds
Where is Bobby Fischerman?
@3:05 why not the rook at e7? it looks the simplest way of winning without any tricks
rook e7 > if rook f6 > king e5 > and where ever the rook goes black loses the pawn
and now you can trade either the pawn or rook for blacks rook at some point and just go for the checkmate either with the queen promote or rook promotion
there are so many ways to win this position
i believe black can draw the game by just shuffling the rook along the f-file as you have no way of queening without skewering your pawn and their rook
You don't really have to queen. If the rook moves anywhere on the f file other than f5, it opens e5 for the king. If the rook then goes anywhere other than f6, your queen takes their pawn and is now defending your pawn. Then with your remaining rook and pawn the best they can do is trade their rook for your pawn, and a king and rook vs a king is a win. If the rook moves off the F file to stop your king from moving to e5, you get a queen.
Of Re7 then black plays Kc5 and the trading the pawns, what you mentioned just a draw.
black doesn't have to do anything they can just move around their king. Lets say u take the black pawn on e6 then the opponent just captures your pawn which is promoting. You are not actually threatening anything.
I think Q vs R video is overdue ;)
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6:38 This is not to easy. I have not seen any move, except the last one.
Solved
at 1:54 couldn't you just do rook f4
King d3
ok
What happened to the little pawn direction indicator you used before?
You sound drunk today, but nice puzzle!
Black wasn't forced to move the rook in f5.
He could have go all the way back to f1 and we cannot do the same deflection as before.
But black’s best move is Rf5, because otherwise white can play Ke5 and then captures the e6 pawn and wins easily.
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