Jameis Winston FAILED in Tampa Bay, Is He a Starter in 2020?
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- Опубліковано 14 жов 2024
- This week’s film breakdown analyzes ex Tampa Bay Buccaneers Quarterback Jameis Winston, who finished the 2019 season with an impressive 5,109 passing yards, but a ridiculous 30 interceptions. After Bruce Arians became the coach, it was time for Jameis to take the next step. Now that he’s a free agent, is he still good enough to be one of the 32 best quarterbacks in the NFL? This episode uses the all-22 coaches film to analyze Jameis Winston’s 2019 season.
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Which team will be eating W’s with Jameis in 2020?
Been resting the voice, shooting to be back this week
I wouldn't say Jameis failed in Tampa more like Tampa failed HIM. 5 years of no run game and below average defense
To be honest, I still think he can be great but he plays like me when I now started playing madden, Thinking guys are open n being fooled.
@Ian Jones for one your eli argument is irrelevant eli was a old QB compared to Jameis who 26 still in his prime. And yes jameis is to blame for his mistakes but me personally I dont feel like he was put in the best situation to win Football a team sport Jameis should of had a run game and defense to lean on he still a young QB
@Ian Jones never seen a bust throw for over 5,000 yards and 33tds
@Ian Jones interceptions dont make you a bust. Bret Favre threw 29ints in one season and he hall of fame. And granted it was Tom Brady he lost his job too a 6time SB champ. Winston bout to ball on yall haters next year💪🏾
Like Ryan Clark and Stephen A said "He was the offensive and defensive player of the year last year
Zion Tunde it’s not being a biter if he gives them credit
He would have fitted great with the raiders I think
Basically he plays like how we all play in madden
🤣
Honestly some dudes who are less worthy in my opinion have already been brought in. Yes I think he will start again
I certainly hope so Bo
3rd stringer for the Saints just like I thought not even good enough to be a backup lol what a waste of a #1 pick
@@LM-ge4so you're so smart man i just want to kiss that big brain of yours. we all knew you'd get it right atta boy you go gettem tiger
oh shit, looks like he just signed a 2-year, $28 million dollar contract ($21 million gtd) to start for the Saints. i bet your biggest accomplishment in the past year was finally getting that $0.30 raise at Arby's lol. stay mad
Wow. Your attention to detail is amazing. Keep this up and you'll get a job in the NFL.
Appreciate that man
It’s actually Bruce Arians running this channel lol
I think Jameis is highly underrated. I'm a Bucs fan and I really think someday we gonna regret letting him go. I hope he signs with a good organization like the Patriots or the Steelers for example. If he gets a proper Defense, a little protection and somewhat of a running game he will win lots of games!!!
I'm Bucs fan too I'm glad we got tom Brady but jameis is a very high skilled QB but makes horrible decisions if he can work with someone to get over the habit of throwing bad passes or bad reads he will be a star in the NFL
@Run Gunn yeah
gee, you just described every QB: "If they had a solid Def..solid running game..solid line... blah, blah blah. Can't blame the defense on 30 INT now can we!?!?
No we won’t.
obviously not a Bucs fan defense was fantastic this year problem was QB turnovers which were thru the fucking roof
dang, homeboy on the rams got LAID TF OUT right at the goal line
Dude, that olineman was pissed af or something, and messed Marcus Peters up. It was scary to see, but I guess Peters was alright. Dante Fowler went and talked to the tackle after the play, think it was Donovan Smith
AlexRollinsNFL hell yeah, scary hit for sure. By the way, I love your videos man. I feel like I’ve learned a lot more about football since I found your channel. I love the niners - have since I was a kid - so it was fun watching what happened each week. Thanks for the great content!!
@@arowland420 Thank YOU man, glad you like them
5:00 on this play i blame the wr evans for not snapping off his dig route at the stem instead he rounds it off allowing trufant to under cut him and a wr should not let the db cross his face
I hear you but Trufant had Winston beat, best case scenario was an incompletion.
Veer and Shoot true but evans is a big wr and is supposed to use his 6’6 frame to shield the cb from the ball
I thought the same thing!
Correct. Badly run route.
It could have been snapped off cleaner I agree. But I think Trufant picks this pretty much no matter what
If he would cut down on picks, he’d be a top 10 QB. He’s a gunslinger.
thats what arians is saying. hes always talking about (this is my best to remember his quote) how theres so much good. but its overshadowed by all the bad or something like that
Liam Clements And he should know better than anyone because he’s coached the likes of Big Ben, Peyton Manning, Andrew Luck, and Carson Palmer
@@RealAmericanStudios yea. and look at carsons numbers from his first year with arians, and his second. his pick totals dropped significantly and yardage went up. imagine that with a guy who already threw for 5k yards. im not saying he will go up even more in yards but if those pick totals can drop he would 100% be a top 10 qb
Liam Clements I would like Jameis to succeed
To Release is To Resolve That’s cool. Same.
Lmfaoo Jameis Winston has been my QB1 in fantasy football for 4 years
I’ve won a lot of championships with him as my QB1 and lost a lot because of him. Man has nearly gave me heart attacks with him being on my fantasy team so I can imagine what it must be like coach him 😂 still my favorite player nevertheless
He's awesome to watch, unless you're a TB fan hahah
no one gives a shit about fantasy sports
Get outta here jt sports lmao I'm subscribed to u
This is another remarkable video. Thanks for posting. Winston has a lot of talent, but as your video points out for whatever reason he just struggles to read defenses consistently. It's a shame, because he could easily be a top starter in the NFL if he could cut down on the turnovers. I do think some of the blame does lie on Arains failing to structure his approach to Winston's strengths. 30 interceptions even for Winston was a lot, especially in the era of ball we have today. I didn't know you broke down 49ers plays on your Patreon. I might have to consider contributing since I am a 49ers fan, and it would be nice to know what I'm actually seeing on the field. BTW, hope your voice gets better.
Appreciate this comment a lot TLD, thank you. Yeah, I felt like I didn't hear any criticism of Arians and didn't feel like that was fair to Jameis. But, as you said, 30 INT is just way too much
I'd LOVE to see Winston in New England.. With his raw skill and athleticism, and the genius of Bill Belichick...
Pretty sure bill doesn't want an interception machine
@@Acepilot12345 - If that's all that you see when you look at Winston, then you don't know much about football..... Or athleticism for that matter.
@@CaptnCrunch247 Funny. People didn't see much in guys like Russell Wilson and Patrick Mahomes wouldn't be 'great' despite being consistent in their mechanics and improving on their throwing and post snap decision making. Yet they now play at a very elite level in the league. Meanwhile people are still waiting for Winston who always had inaccuracy/decision issues in college to clean it up and he's past 4 years already doing the same thing. Its not like Bellichick hasn't work with athletic freaks either. People are right to look at Winston for his glaring negatives because they are consistent!
@@CaptnCrunch247 clearly your a cousin of his if you can't handle a joke. Bill won't accept a player know to throw 7 six picks and 30 interceptions no matter how also good he was. You clearly dont know the Patriots and the amount of jokes online about Winston the defensive player of the year.
@Run Gunn I've watched highlights this year on his interceptions. God awful
These types of breakdowns are the NFL vids I love the most. Glad I subbed!
Thanks man, glad you like em
Perfectly put. Great content
This is the best breakdown I have seen on Jameis Winston. Great analysis!
Thanks SK, glad you liked it
Thanks again, hopefully the voice is still recovering well.
Thanks Queue! It's been crazy, been on vocal rest for about 3 weeks, no talking. I'm itching to record my voice again
@@AlexRollinsNFL You have to be one of the few people who can't wait to hear their own recorded voice.
@@queuebit I just know how I want the lines to sound and it's hard to have someone else do them the exact way I want, ya know?
@@AlexRollinsNFL Yep, script writing is different from "standing on stage," orating.
Your channel is so interesting, man. Continue with the great work!
Thanks Mike, appreciate that a ton
Tom Brady replacing Jameis Winston as the captain of the pirate ship.
Yes he is a starter because you don’t throw for 5,000 pass yards and the be a back up like that just does not happen and if it does there’s something weird going on.
Tucker Giggles something weird like throwing more interceptions....😂😂😂 ain’t nothing weird, just a head coach trying to save his own job....
Yeah I’d say it’s more weird to start a guy who threw 30 interceptions😂
boy only threw for so many yards cause he got the ball back instantly after throwing pick 6 after pick 6 lmao what a joke you are
L M dam we got a jamis hater he’s been in many comments talking trash. Let’s see how he plays after his eye surgery ok buddy 😉😊.
Winston is the extreme Jay Cutler
Francisco Davis yup butden imagine dilfer vs rypein or cutler vs winston, one match has two SB rings the other jus blowing Orings in ever fashion of the sense.!.
Run Gunn lol they all play QB lol um anden two are very popular an got paid almost or hunit million dollars to suck the other two couldn’t get paid to play QB for any reason. Plus maybe no tie in at all an jus bad jokes an attempted analogy of comedy, very possible. Was on the wiid when I posted it so.
Winston n cutler both suck are/were overrated in college an truly have NEVER succeeded at the nfl level period.
Dilfer n rypien are/were nobodies yet overachieved with belief in themselves, hard work an faith in our creator/higher power yet no one is trying to be them, promote them or understand the drive of factual success not false blind success!?
If Trent dilfer played at Florida st in college they would’ve gone undefeated he would’ve won the heisman an been number one pick, if Charlie ward (or winston or cutler per say) switched places an played at fresno state who woulda heard of Charlie Ward an would’ve fresno state defeated USC, doubtful, very doubtful!
If they put forth a league full of Doug fluties an Doug Williams instead of murderous bullies, insecure criminals, an money hungry rapistsit would be not only watchable an better football butden U would NEVER LOSE VIEWERS EVER, now why would U watch unless ur an insecure inhumane ignorant piece of garbanzo beans, tis shameful.
Run Gunn they all are right handed an play qb? They all went to college, they all of the male species?
More like a extreme Matt Stafford
Run Gunn if “rapist” equals winner? anden again U are missing any of the points I am making or attempting to make. He went to an overrated school in an awful conference hasn’t an wont EVER WORK HARD so his career has been written, THE END.
if cam newton doesn’t find a job how will winston? besides TB name one team that makes sense or could/will use winston in real life king? Xfl should give him a call, he may suckseeds there too king.!.
Jameis sure has talent boy! Some of these passes are sweet
0 talent and 0 brains keep slurping that D tho it's good for you lmao
I believe Jameis in a balanced offense with guidance will do great. I wish the cowboys would let Dak go and sign Jameis on the cheap
Thank you!!! I don't understand why the cowboys are trying to get dak signed. Go get Winston he is clearly better than dak and will immediately become the second best qb in the divison.
You guys are crazy!!! Jamesis Winston sucks because he is scared to death on the football field. He makes bad decisions when under pressure and is a one read quarterback.
Jamesis needs to sit as a backup and learn. He is also a bit too overconfident in his arm and holds the ball too long. Bottom line is look at what Dak has accomplished compared to Winston with mediocre coaching.
Now let's here the B.S excuses for Dak's success so I can shut you all down
@@sw5401 FACTS. Dak was forced to win too often with his arm last season (as oppose to Zeke the high priced RB to control the game with running it in) and despite that he nearly got 5k yards to go with 30TDs/11 ints. Though team performance paid the price as they lost close games with that lack of offensive balance. Meanwhile Winston even before Arians offense last year had some 'less' pass happy approaches and he was still choking up turnovers. Winston apologists seem to overlook that in ANY offense, their boy has always been throwing picks (and sixes) at a pro level regardles despite having one of the best receivers and possibly the shittiest O-lines.
this was a really good video. I thought a lot of the play-calling this year was trash. They like refused to run the ball at all. No play action no underneath Concepts. Felt like it was just forcing it and not running a real offense. And I do blame the play-calling cuz everybody knows Jameis gets nervous in the early part of the game and they just really refuse to run the ball. Really informative
LeDevin Green.... I was at the Bucs games this year and a drop ya mouth moment when I saw them run 3 pass plays in a row at the goal line then missed the field goal. It was unbelievable
There were a lot of plays I saw where they didn't incorporate a checkdown or a "hot" route, a quick pass when an extra defender blitzes. Didn't give Jameis an answer sometimes..
AlexRollinsNFL Arians set Winston up. Clearly.
Best analysis I've seen yet. Being at Buc home games drove me nuts to see those open check downs but Jameis force it to his primary read.
Thanks Rob. Too often there weren't even check downs for him to throw to, which is frustrating in itself. Makes sense you were extra frustrated at home games, his home/road splits were surprising as hell. He performed MUCH worse at home than on the road
@@AlexRollinsNFL Sure did! Only SIX ints on the road.
Beautiful illustration of the enigma of Jameis' performance!
Thanks Erik! Looking forward to breaking down Brady in the coming weeks
5:02; We can’t put that all on Jamis. That’s a terrible route and bad awareness from a receiver that has been top tier for way too long to be running his route like that.
But still, bad idea to throw that😭😭
"Jameis fires a rope" 8:05
Dudes got a cannon
WOW! Great content 👍 just stumbled upon your channel... Wait "Andrew" is the back up?! 😱 My suggestion is that you find a way to get him some snaps even after you're back on the field... He did a bang up job... This is the first video I've seen from your channel. I would have never guessed that he was a scrub... Great job guys!
Thanks a lot Cbiz. Andrew does a great job, he's a professional, you should check him out, awesome dude and awesome work. Glad you like the content
kudos!
I’ll miss the Bleacher Report notifications where Jameis would throw a pick within the first five minutes EVERY week
@Isiah how many playoff games has "crablegss" won? lmao
He really let me down. I seen him play at FSU and knew he was going to be a number one pick. He cuts down the TO's he'd be a pro bowl QB
RealJCoop He’s not going throw less pics and keep his TD and yardage #s up. He throws less risky passes the positive stats go down as well.
the boy is just dumb as a doorknob he ain't improving ever
Great video and the comment about play action is something I was screaming from the stands all season, didn't know we only called play action 17% of the time but totally believable. I saw the Bucs call 3 pass plays in a row at the goaline... then missed the field goal. It was unbelievable. The thing is.... I dont think Tom Brady will allow dumb play calling by Bryon Leftwich
Yeah it was a surprising stat to see, and it totally makes sense why he'd be so much better. Maybe another team will use him differently
@Run Gunn How much does he have or is the question how much should he be involved? I think he is preparing Leftwich to be an NFL Head coach this giving him a learning curve without much interference
@Run Gunn Exactly what I said, you just worded it differently, never would Brady tell a coach what to do, same as Aaron Rodgers didn't tell McCarthy what to do, but didn't allow dumb play calling
Bruce Arians has one of the toughest systems for QB, from what I've read. He has so many option routes for his receivers compared to most coaches, that the QB really needs to have great chemistry with his receivers in order to succeed. This is also why I think Tampa isn't going to be as dominate with Brady as people think they are.
I think Jameis has the potential to be good, and as a Saints fan I would be open to seeing him start. Not until after Brees though, but he should definitely learn from Brees and then let's see him in action. He has a good arm, he just needs better decision making
That play you broke down against the Rams is exactly why the Bucs offense is going to explode with Brady under center. The second the safeties roll over and show 2 instead of 3, Brady not only has already skipped off Godwin's sail, he's also already off of the go route and targeting the running back. And instead of waiting for the RB to stop on the checkdown, he'll hit him within 2 seconds and in stride for the first down.
Having watched the Patriots my whole life and more intently as a coach for the last 4 years, I can say without a doubt that's why he threw to James White so much. His route progression is so fast because he never eyes a dead route and can tell which routes are dead right off of the snap
The thing is, when his primary receiver isn't open, he thinks that EVERYONE isn't open.
Not only do I think that he deserves a starting spot, but I think he will VASTLY improve due to his LASIK surgery! I got LASIK in January and it’s amazing how much it changes. I think he’s gonna he a lot better next year.
Dude has a trash organization, for 4-5 years they didn’t even bother giving this man an offensive line to defend him if you watch his games the pocket is always crashing in on him, a lot of people also gas up his receivers a lot of them struggle creating space and then complain when he doesn’t throw it there way, 3rd bucs defense is garbage, 4th he never had a running back to elevate the stress or a decent tight end who can block down and route run. It’s like they never believed in Winston from jump and were waiting for that one guy. Not to mention dude played the whole season with bad vision being not able to see deep down field and he got surgery for, played season on torn meniscus, and a broken thumbs. And he still managed to lead league in passing and 2nd in tds and has broken multiple records, not to mention lastly Arian is a new coach for the bucs
so, it's everyone's fault but his!?!?!
WirelessJoeJackson No one said he doesn’t have a blame but the organization is more to blame and the coaching staff, he gets all the backlash from everything that happens with that team and the to the the guy who mentioned Andrew luck and Watson those guys still are nowhere till this day so you’re just proving my point and Winston has a higher ceiling than both of them if you pay attention to the numbers he’s putting up
I get he throws pics but this man really threw for over 5000 yards and 30 TDS. Have some respect 💯
Brock Smith but u can’t turn the ball over like that Ik he has talent but as u can see nobody hasn’t picked him up I hope he gets somewhere I kinda wish we would of gave him another shot but Jameis wasn’t selling tickets but Brady name itself sells tickets and Brady doesn’t turn it over
@@eliknight6897 well I think alot of it had to do with his O-line if you give him a better line with time to throw alot of those picks wouldn't of happened 🤷♂️
Brock Smith Ik but jameis has trouble reading defenses sometimes that’s why he threw picks and he never recognized a play and changed it tbh
You guys must not know football. When you are always playing from behind you have to throw the ball. That's why Jamesis led the league in passing. Empty stats is what they call it. Bottom line is Tampa is a horrible place to groom a NFL quarterback.
Jamesis will be a much better quarterback learning under Mike Tomlin or Belichick. Just need the right team and better coaching
S W Ik my football bruh all I said was he has trouble reading defenses other then that he’s not bad he just throws to many inceptions stop trying to discredit this man 5,000 yard season if u not a bucs fan stfu bih because if u look at our games most where close except that Panthers game in London
Great video!!!
Appreciate that big time Juan
Wow!! Thanks for the answer man. It's awesome you take the time. I just found your channel a couple weeks ago and the only thing I regret is that there are not more videos
@@juancarlosjeanarenas6323 Every Saturday I got a new one coming out!
I'd love to see a video on if you think Jamis will fit well into the saints scheme.
That's a good idea, but since I just broke him down, probably won't get to him for a while especially since he isn't starting
@@AlexRollinsNFL thats understandable, just get ready because if Drew gets knocked out a few games you will need to jump on it.
Alex is so enlightening..
Thanks brotha
So basically you're saying that it's mostly Bruce Arians' fault?
No, not necessarily, I wanted to shine some light on some of the issues that the Bucs had and why they weren't all Jameis' fault. You throw 30 INT, it's definitely on you
AlexRollinsNFL it’s on jameis but it’s the coaches job to utilize the strengths of their players. Why put him in a position where you know he’s going to fail. It’s either you couldn’t identify his strengths or weaknesses or you wanted him to fail
I think a lot of it is on Bruce,but mostly it's just the bucs.... He'll do like most former Tampa qb's leave and see real success.... I'm not even sure why i'm still a fan at this point! The list of superbowl winning qb's that started in Tampa is not miles long but has enough for you to ask what the actual fuck is going on there...save for that mid 2000's run we had... It's been pretty crappy... Doug Williams... Steve young....Vinnie Testaverde ... Even Trent dilfer lol..... We can add Jameis to that list.... He's gonna go else where and blow up... ...
AlexRollinsNFL so Howard didn’t hand the defense two ints.
@Isiah yeah totally Mike Evans and Chris Godwin are terrible receivers lol you guys come up with the most lame excuses for "crablegs" everytime
Depends if the xfl is up and running
Would have loved to see Winston in BA's scheme for another year, I think there would have been potential for it to really click for him. Carson Palmer's already on record saying BA's scheme is one of the most complicated to learn. Going to be interesting to see how Brady gets on there... Will he have the same downfield success? 🤔
@Run Gunn hence why I'm intruiged to see how he performs next season
I was skeptical of the fit with Brady, unless TB's organization and Arians will let Brady do whatever he wants.
Man I hope BA stops being stubborn. Him & Carson together, we always had a chance no matter what.
In AZ, Arians balanced in run calls with play action really well.
I think he will be for Brady. With the same scheme as last year, Brady won't work in my opinion
MY G JUST GOT LASIK LETS WAIT
BA is the reason I'm not entirely sold on the Brady Bucs. He was good in Az but his stubborn ways i feel is what cost the Cards. Just my 2 cents
0:14 I was at that game
Slingers always have high risk/reward factors. People forget that Peyton manning still holds the records for most int's in a rookie season, Terry Bradshaw was a pick machine for a while, before going on to harness glory. Winston might need a real rebirth, sort of like what happened to Randal Cunningham with the Vikings. I don't think he's a back up but he also needs some serious humbling before he gets anything really going on. JMO.
I don't know what type of work ethic Jameis has, but hopefully like you said, this motivates him to work that much harder. Sitting for a half season/full season could be exactly what he needs. The talent is there, if he can get the mind right, he'll dominate
I'm a Bucs fan and so happy to be done with the Winston experiment. In the last year he had more ints that Brady did in the last 4 years combined! If he was worth so much he would have been swooped up right away.
@Run Gunn Peyton went on to win MVP and 2 SB MVPs winston "crablegs" will never start again in the NFL lmao let me hear you cry little boy
@Run Gunn cool story bro get back to me when "crablegs" wins a playoff game lmao. why did Fitzpatrick badly outplay him a couple years ago let's hear your bs excuses little crybaby
@Run Gunn fitzpatrick shouldn't be a starter in the NFL but he badly outplayed poor boy crablegs so what does that tell you
@Run Gunn and what happened when crablegs returned lol shit the bed like always does
@Run Gunn was never on the fizzlepatrick train just saying if that dude is arguably better than you you aren't very good
He’s not a starter this season but this isn’t the end of Winston’s career as starter. Bruce Arians took him to another level in one aspect of his game but he has an issue with accuracy and post snap reads. I feel like Pittsburgh would be a good place for him. They traditionally always play great defense and have a decent run game. Sitting behind Ben and having a change of scenery with a franchise like Pittsburgh could help him in the long run. I don’t see Ben playing much longer. He can run that offense if he becomes a true student of the game.
Jameis was a complete nightmare for the Bucs. 5 years and the only person who got famous was Jameis. No playoffs not much good consistent play, no maturation from the quarterback position.
5000 yards was because he was always playing from behind, he had trouble reading the defenses... just a complete train wreck.
And then he has lasik surgery and a scoped knee... good luck finding a starting position again. Nobody in the league has even inquired about Jaboo... he’s Jamarcus Russell 2.0
Jameis get ready to hold that clipboard camp is opening up shortly
Jameis needs a power run game to force the LBs to play honest (run first) and a deep passing game to force the DBs to defend the whole field.
no what jamis needs is to play for the XFL maybe he could have a winning record in that league
So basically Jameis is more brawn than brains
Big bro keep your head up and showthem how a gunslinger when's the Best
yeah crablegs isn't a starter in this league that much is for sure backup if he plays his part correctly otherwise biggest buster of all times
That was a great analysis of Jameis. It is similar to his FSU days, he sucks and comes back with his Superman cape. I did think it is an insult to say that he needs a sports psychologist to rewire his thought process. Jameis is going to be a backup, but has massive talent...and that is a shame. I think Marcus Mariota is similar in thinking issues.
Thanks M3, appreciate it. Who said he needs a sports psychologist?
@@AlexRollinsNFL Did you say it and I forgot about it? haha I said, for sure. He's great or WTF, extreme swings.
@@M3RRIH3W13 I wouldn't say it, I wanted to make sure you didn't think I did haha
I thought this came out after the Saints v Packers game….
Tampa Bay FAILED - only 8 QB's in history of the NFL have the ability to throw fro 5000+ yards....Tampa let him go!!!
Question: How many QB's have thrown their career high Int rate in their 1st year under Bruce Arians? Answer: 4...Andrew Luck, Carson Palmer, Payton Manning and Winston.
As of now, he still doesn't have a team which is ridiculous to me, but at the same time, the guy just can't get right! Ugh! Jameis, I wanna defend you but you won't let me!!!
@Run Gunn ....if you're aware of the issues with Jameis, it's the fact that he's actually a damn good quarterback, he has a great arm, great locker room guy, good personality but at the same time, for every touchdown he throws, he throws two picks! He's a two steps forward, two steps back type of player......he just can't get right!
@Run Gunn ..... haven't heard that that was an issue with him until you said this....he should have gotten the surgery a long time ago.
@Run Gunn .... okay, no big deal, the point is as a pro athlete who makes his living off his body and his skills, he should be doing everything he can to be able to perform at the highest level, no excuses like you're making for him, you act like he's your son or something! Lol!
@Run Gunn .... it's all excuses bruh, at the end of the day, all this has cost him a big payday he would have been eligible to receive as a starting QB. I guess that's the difference between the Jameis Winstons and....say the Tom Brady's in sports, Brady does EVERYTHING to be in the best physical, mental and overall health to perform at a high level. You and the Jameis Winstons make excuses and blame EVERYONE and EVERYTHING else for the inability to get the job done. The guy needs to quit playing around and get serious about being an NFL QB, or go play baseball. One of Jameis' problems is he's a bit immature too, and it shows in his play. He simply needs to get his sh*t together.
@Run Gunn ... I'm not disregarding facts, I'm saying in spite of your "facts", Jameis needs to persevere, you don't get that, that's what separates good athletes from great athletes.
I think he will benefit a lot from from Sean Payton and Drew brees. Payton knows how to coach and he will coach u up. Hopefully he’ll learn and get better.
Sounds like Coach Arians and O.C. Leftwich needs to take some blame for not playing to Winston's strengths but 5,109 is impressive.
You would think given his history Brady will have the authority and willingness to check to the quick in when defenses sell out deep, but supposedly he is gonna be running Arians' offense straight up
I was a long time Buc's fan before they drafted Jameis.....Now I can go back to rooting for the Buc's!! I knew Jameis was going to make a awful pro, back when he was at FSU, and I was 100% right!!! #gethimoutahere
I'd say he needed the eye surgery and the humbling he endured to sit and learn behind Drew Brees and Sean Peyton will prove valuable in his future progression. I'm thankful to have Jaboo. WHODAT 🖤⚜️💛
Honestly there is not a single qb I’d rather due to his talent and his personality being so loveable
Jamies Winston is the Westballz of the NFL.
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At the end of the day, the only stat that matters is how many games a QB wins. By next year, most fans will have forgotten that he passed for 5000 yards (though they may not forget his 30 interceptions). TB was not a playoff contender while Winston was their QB and no one cares how much "potential" a player has. TB failed to make the playoffs under Winston. Will he be a starter with another team? Probably but with a low-ranked team whose QBs are worse than Winston is. But no one should expect Winston to miraculously turn any team around. Like Trubisky, Osweiler and Bortles, Winston will be one of those players who are long on potential but short on delivery.
2:54 HOLY SHIT!!!!!
Brett Farve without a good PR team😂
TheWhiteWhale obviously, I’m saying in the fact that Farve was a gunslinger and loved by the media even though he had similar turnover issues like Jameis
@@CoachXXI but he actually used his old noggin and won games unlike crablegs who will go down as a big time buster nothing more
@@CoachXXI He had similar turnover issues but he was also a much better QB than Winston
Brett's arm was God like......if Winston had Favres arm then he'd be in MVP discussions.
Ironically Favre is the currently the record holder for most career interceptions at 336.
30 INTs, on top of his 12 fumbles, negates his 5,000 yards and 30 TD's.
People forget, half of those 5000 years came in because tampa would be trailing. Forcing them to throw the ball more. The reason they're trailing? Because Jameis would throw an interception on the first possession of the game, causing the Bucs to, not only give up field position, but also lose halftime advantages. At least eight times, the opposing team will have the ball 2 minutes into the first quarter and 2 minutes into the third quarter
@@JarinSchlievert exactly people like isiah just make up nonsense he threw a lot because he put his team in a terrible spot boy will never win a playoff game shouldn't ever start again in the NFL go cry me a river "crablegs" fans
I think what went wrong for him is that he went 30 for 30 hahaha
Great work on your video very well explained, I believe JW would do great under a Kyle Shanahan system although they have Jimmy G. Which is why it made sense to me that you mentioned he'd flourished under well in P.A. pass situation which BA never catered to him for...etc.
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Thanks Max, imo Jameis would do best with a team with a subpar defense. The 49ers used JG as a ball control, game manager type this year and it worked well for them, whereas I don't think Jameis is great at managing games. I think the Raiders should take a look at him, or another low quality defensive team. Plenty of options to start for him imo.
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Run Gunn it wouldn’t lol.
He had lasik done. Is it possible he saw impaired. I feel in new England if they could see if that helps u gcb he can go down to 10 int
Run Gunn additionally he played through a broken thumb and a torn meniscus (which he recently had surgery on)
What statistics say they had a bottom 10 O-Line? They're ranked top 10 by PFF
They had the worst Oline before Winston came to the league.
NYGJMAP I call BS on that. Their run game was ranked 24th. And JW was sacked 47 times. No way they were 10th.
Football Outsiders which I value more than PFF
Jameis is mad underrated I think. The bucs put him in terrible situations all the time. Don't get me wrong he had his bad moments, but he is definitely starting QB material.
Wrong Fitzpatrick outplayed him every step of the way 2 years ago boy is trash not even a backup "crablegs" please XFL is for you
It's because he was a Florida Seminole..
Bruce Arians a.k.a. AIR IT OUT ARIANS.
I had the pause the video to go to Publix. Blue crabs on sale
Don't make him hungry
You know more about football than I do but don't you think that having Mike Evans and Chris Godwin, 2 bigger more physical WR talents, helped him quite a bit. He wouldn't be able to just throw the ball up when he wasn't sure what to do and still get yards out of it if he didn't have them. While yes he has Micheal Thomas in NO that offense is tailored for Drew Brees so even if he did come in to play it would not end too well.
It definitely helped him and I love Evans and Godwin, but think of all the QBs who have had a duo that good and never come close to 5000 yards. Peyton did it in 2013 with the Broncos, but never with Marvin/ Reggie. You can't be a bad QB and throw for 5k
Huge double standard concerning this kid. TB will pay dearly for just letting him walk. Brady is no doubt one of the greatest ever, but I'm worried that Brady does not have the strength in his cannon that he once had. You have got to have a hand cannon to throw the deep routes of the Arians system. The Tampa Bay Receivers just do not create any space in the underneath routes. This was easily over half of the Winston Ints. NO SEPARATION leads to turnovers. Especially with no consistent running game. Brady will struggle, TB will struggle. If Brady cannot throw he deep outs, posts, seam routes, things will be very difficult for my beloved team. Brady is in a situation that can really go south quickly. He won't be able to hold the ball like he did in NE. He will be forced to try to put the balls into tight windows on his favorite underneath routes which will lead to turnovers because as I said, TB receivers created no separation. The one thing that I am sure of is that Brady will not make horrible decisions with the ball. I like that because every INT is not a bad decision. This that double standard. The receivers and Leftwich will eat most of the blame if turnovers start happening. Winston is not in Tampa because of the Turnovers. It's the choices he made in the past is because if anybody can sit there and say this kid was a bust or he didn't have this or that then you prove the double standard. Frankly, I hate to say it but there is an obvious double standard for Black QBs. This is the reason why Winston is so complex. I don't remember any of this with Peyton Manning, yet Winston has better numbers. How many pick 6s did Manning throw? Jim Mora knows. How about ints? Jim Mora knows. Still Winston has better numbers. And not only Manning. Many other future HOF QBs. I've been watching football way too long. Just take away the 3 ints Winston had in Nashville. Arians himself said they weren't his fault. He's down to 27. Hmm, Peyton had 28. I hate to say this, but if both Tom Brady and Peyton Manning were Black we would have never known their greatness. Bledsoe would have never lost his job. Peyton Manning was a turnover machine but everyone knew his greatness was only a matter of time.
You’re absolutely right, if only Jameis was white, he would be revered as one the all time greats like Manning or Brady, and we would be celebrating the stellar season he just had. “He’s down to 27. Hmm, Peyton had 28.” Are you really measuring like that? LOL! So you take away interceptions that Winston literally threw because they “weren’t his fault” or something, but all of Peyton’s 28 int remain? You could pick those apart too and get him down to 25? Or 20? Or 10? That’s what sounds like a double standard right there. Definitionally, in fact. Truth is, Jameis Winston sucks. And it’s not because he’s black, it’s because he sucks. There are plenty of great black QBs in the league rn, but he is def not one of them. He’s a turnover machine who can’t read a defense to save his life, an off the field headache and a laughable “leader.” I can link you a video of him eating his fingers if you’d like lmfao. “Who want to eat a W?” 😂😂😂😂
@TheWhiteWhale You have missed my entire point. For people to get this they have to swallow their pride. Never once did I say Winston was better than Manning,. That's not the issue. It's not about whose better, its about how Peyton, Brees, Favre, and others have gotten the chance to come into their own. Winston did not get the same treatment, even though his numbers are better than all of theirs at this juncture. I'm not going to sit here and say whose better because we all would have our opinions. The turnover machine this kid has been he still has less than those 3. Wanna talk horrible decisions, Favre was the master. But, with this debate we are having, I'm not going to sit here say the NFL is racist. I never said that either. Do not assume you think just because I say there is a double standard concerning Black QBs does not mean the NFL is racist. I'm just saying there is a question that needs to be answered. Even with all of that, I also understand that a lot of it has to do with franchise/coach and the style of QB they want. The two perfect examples of this are two of the guys I named. Brett Favre was hated by Glanville. Favre could have done everything perfect but Glanville didn't like him because he was careless with the ball and where he played college. They had arguably one of the best QBs in NFL history and they basically gave him away all because the Coach didn't believe in him. Now a real Coach in Mike Holmgren who came from under a real Coach named Bill Walsh saw something that others did not. He took 3 of his young offensive coaches and their jobs were to fix this kid into an NFL QB. Those 3? Mariucci, Reed, and Gruden. They put him in a system that fits him. This is what's lost in the NFL. Brees was in the same boat. Undersized, average arm, nothing spectacular. San Diego gave him away to a young coach who came from under one of those real coaches named Parcels. Shawn Peyton took him when nobody else was interested. I say all of that because they are amazingly treating RG3, Winston, Cam, Bursette as if they cannot play on this level or at an elite level. That is stupidity. So when I say double standard I am definitely not saying it's all race and nothing else. There are other factors as well. The problem is that the people are using arguments to justify why these guys don't belong. Now there is the double standard. You follow me now? I would RIP your lungs out if you think I'm someone who the its because I am Black and everything is racist crap. I hate that crap. This is the reason you totally misunderstood what I was trying to say. Preconceived notions cause a lot of misunderstandings. Anyway, I hope I clarified things. It just seems Black QBs do not get the same room to grow and mature. But there are many other White QBS who did not get the same thing either. One name. Ryan Leaf. That poor kid was setup for failure. He had no chance and still to this day given the right opportunity he could have been something special. Look, that same franchise got rid of Drew Brees, lol. Let me go. You can tell I'm a preacher. Long winded. Pass te collection plate will you? Lol
bernie7044 let’s see what they say bout ol mayfield
Luck is the smartest player ever. Took the money and ran. Why beat your body up for 15 to 20 yrs? Play a few years get a big contract and leave
Good job....I'll will say on the interception against rams....he did get hit as he was throwing
cool story bro what about the other 30 lmao what a joke "crablegs" has become
I believe the success in play action would make him the perfect Mcvay QB
I got my hands on Bruce Arian’s playbook from his Cardinal days and lemme tell you, fuck it XD I’m an erhardt perkins kinda guy and always have been but looking it over it shows why so many struggle especially in their first year with him. There’s so many sight adjust that I bet walking up to ask Arians a question has a sight adjust in it depending how his hands are positioned.
There are sight adjusts in every system including the Erhardt Perkins system! Some more than others, but if you look at how the Patriots convert their routes, it'll make your head spin
@@AlexRollinsNFL Ye I do love it though just prefer EP purely cause that’s what I’ve always played under my whole life and used to the language. It took forever for everything to click but when it did was beautiful. I’m trying to get into coaching I’ve maintained connections with my old coaching staff so will ask them more about it. This was a great video man keep up the hard work.
@@dkoda840 I agree that EP is the best way of doing things. Need time in the system to make it fluid, but it rocks when it's done correctly. Appreciate ya man!
I think he needs to get a full reset.
Get a year to study the game. Every team who has been willing to do that has reaped the benefits. Give him a team with an established vet and a good offensive line (the saints would literally be perfect).
The bucs would be his best bet then tbh.
It's just problematic cause he's going to demand way more than he is worth as a backup.
@@Rene275 Less of an ideal fit in my opinion, just because of the difference in their o lines. Not to mention the fact that they released him.
Totally agree Zack, just commented Saints backup for a year up above ^. That would be so sick if he started for them in 2021
To New England he goes 💪🏾💯
Lol you think so? Idk why but that didnt cross my mind. Could be interesting...
Jesse Yeager-Diamond wouldn’t be surprised Jamie’s is fixable just needs a great coach to push him like bill.
@@kellz1703 not the last time I've heard 'Oh X talented QB is fixable he just needs another team'. Stick to Madden with how overrated that line of thought is.
BludAardvark dont even play madden smart guy. Winston threw 30+ tds over 5,000 yds just made 30 bad decisions. He clearly got talent to be productive just need to be much less stupid with the ball and stop forcing plays that ain’t there. He can have a career turn around multiple qbs have. I just wish him the best.
@@kellz1703 he made way more than 30 bad decisions lmao Patriots wouldn't let him be there backup at this point keep crying
Jameis biggest problem is the Mike Evans Trufant example.... Jameis anticipates too much and throws the ball before guys are clearly winning coming out of timing breaks.
I agree Kareem, what I saw was he was correctly reading the defense and was understanding the coverages, but he falls in love with that read too quickly. I kept writing in my notes: he's anticipating to a fault, he's making a choice and just jamming it in there.
Let's be real, there are DEFINITELY teams who will acquire him to compete for a starting opportunity. Broncos, Jets, Chicago just a few off the top of my head.
Jags should sign him to compete with Minshew. He's way better than Minshew
the Jets are not bringing anyone in to compete for the starting job
@Run Gunn Not too many QB starting jobs open these days. I think he's a lot better than Minshew who I'm not sold on at all
@Run Gunn I don't buy into the lasik surgery making him drastically better. He's played for 4 years, and several in college. Yeah people think he's dumb, but there's no way with the team doctors, personnel and group Winston has around him, that nobody has suggested fixing his eye sight.
@@WirelessJoeJackson gotta get one more shitty season out of a quarterback before you let him go eh?
I honestly think if brees stays for 1 to 2 years and Jameis learns behind him he can be amazing there
4:22 the ball is just late it’s like a three and rip drop to the turkey hole and he takes 5 and hitches twice
Exactly. Plus situationally it's just a dumb throw, they were winning by 11. That throw had to be perfect and thrown perfectly on time. Too risky in the 4th quarter..
@Run Gunn should have made a better read but boy is just too dumb to play QB that much has been established
Arians must be the most over-rated coach in my time. He is so schematically rigid. The great QBs he coached were just as great without him as with him. But Arians has never elevated middling QBs - the way a "quarterback whisperer" should.
Facts!!!
All the quarterbacks he just named in their first year that system pick ratio went up plus and they all played more than one year in that system so how can you compare a one-year quarterback to quarterbacks who played multiple years but with their first year each in that system their pick ratio went up,
It's fair to say that any quarterback is unfairly evaluated when they only have one year in a system, but at the same time Jameis threw 30 interceptions which is almost unprecedented
I'm saying the Pats sign him. Bill can coach the youngster up. Though, he did have 30 interceptions, 33 TDs and 5000 yards is still really good. Bill can get that TD INT ratio better, I know he can, and I'm a Niners fan
No way. Bill would body Winston for his antics
@Antonio Iniguez agreed
If he failed then Philip Rivers and Baker Mayfield failed, 33-30 is no different than 23-20 or 22-21 and both Rivers and Mayfield will both be starting in 2020 and both had wrs and rbs that are above average. If Winston get's a chance to start again he'll make the Bucs regret letting him go in the future. The GOAT can't play forever.
I've never liked Jameis, but I wouldn't call a 60% completion percentage with 5,109 yards and 33 touchdowns a failure. You have a lackluster offensive line and an air raid offense, you're gonna have a lot of picks.
His issue is he wants too much money, take the 3 year $75 million deal and drive on. Man wanted a five year $150 million deal.
He is worth $30 million a year, that is what Matt Ryan makes, Wentz gets $32, Goff gets $33, Cousins get $28, Tannehill gets $29, Garoppplo $28, Brissett $28 and you think that Jameis should take less as the cap goes up, revenues go up and they add another game to the season. You would make a terrible agent.
@@LionelLordOfTheThundercats Brissett isn't making $28 million a year, he's on a $15 million a year contract. Jameis wanted $30 million a year.
And everyone else has at least made the playoffs before. Jameis isn't worth $30 million a year, he's a $15-20 million max based on his time at Tampa.
@@theindooroutdoorsman Yeah he is on a $30 million contract, but he gets $20 million at signing add to a base salary which means he got almost all of it in the first year. It averages out to $15 a year but that is not what he made this year, and seeing as he will probably be cut, he was paid $30 this year.
But Jameis throw for more yards, more touchdowns, and more completions last season then those guys. Not one of those guys won a super bowel. Tannehill hasn't had a good year until this one and Jameis was better. Matt Ryan lead the Falcons to the exact same record as the Bucs. Look at Goff's numbers, he and Garopplo are just system QBs they can't lead a team. Wentz is made of glass, and plays in one of the worse divisions in football right now and limped into the playoffs. Everyone of they QBs got their contracts based on one good year, Jameis just had his good year.
If he had better decision making he'll be a top 10 QB
Jameis Winston 🚮 🚮
So glad he's long gone from the bay... Mr. Crab legs is horrible 🤦🏽♂️
The GOAT !!!!
Qbs always throw a lot of picks in their first year in Bruce arains system.
This is a reality which many people fail to recognize. I honestly think, after he worked with Peyton Manning (who btw was exceptional at play action just like Jameis is), that Winston could have adapted and his numbers would have improved in year 2 under that system. It's a shame he instead picked a guy who in his prime would be perfect for his system but right now doesn't have the arm strength needed to perform all 400 throws Arians is asking for.
They just need to relax Winston throw less Interseptions.He has a rocket of a arm. He throws great.
no it's not about that so did purple drank russell but both had brains the size of peas know what i mean lmao