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Honest Couple Reconsiders What They Did & Felt In The 1960s
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- Опубліковано 27 лис 2020
- This interview was made in 1989 for my six part television series, Making Sense of the Sixties. The series looked at the 1960s through the eyes of ordinary people who experienced it from different perspectives. These great Kansas folks lived a challenging time as their son was a Vietnam War protester while two employees who worked for the company had a son who died in Vietnam as a soldier. They reflect on that and other things in the most personal and humane ways. My subscribers regularly ask me to post longer interviews rather than just short clips, and I have done so here. I want to thank this couple for sharing their perspective.
i’m 19 and am very glad you make these otherwise i could never get perspectives of people from this time or state. you’re doing a great service to everyone who is willing to watch. i remember a friend and i watched one of your vietnam interviews together and were just blown away by the tragedy of war. thanks!
Dear Chinatown! @ 65 I'm delighted to have found Mr. Hoffman's offerings. My life journey, if begun as thoughtfully as yours, well... Good luck on your trip through life! Its a trip!
@@luciehanson6250 thank you, i’m gonna need it haha
Nineteen here as well! His videos are a genuine blessing, let us never forget! Good luck to you, my friend.
I’m 22 and I feel the same way!
@@allwack 54 and appreciate his work. Glad to see younger people appreciate it too
The emotion you capture is second to none, and it applies to today's world just the same. Had me in my emotions.
I love them. There are so many people today that aren’t this tolerant and compassionate.
Your a legend Mr. Hoffman
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These people seem so open and intelligent unlike a lot of people these days who are completly ignorant to any differing opinions .
They weren't exposed to the 24-hr "news" media, to be spoon fed their political leanings and moral beliefs. They had to form their own thoughts and come to their own conclusions.
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There were plenty of free thinkers and open minded people back then. Far more than you would think. Back in the 50s there were people already talking about going by other pronouns. Whether or not that's something you agree with, plenty people were talking about those topics and held those views as early as then.
@Mous C .... I will not read or hear a more true statement today. People are led around by the nose by the msm and social media. That includes both sides of the political isle.
@@mousc460 I disagree. Hence why there was big conflict in the 60’s. It’s no different than what’s happening today, you have people who welcome change and people who feel like the country is going to hell because it’s changing. It’s the same cycle and the same dance that won’t ever go away.
Your UA-cam channel is such a treasure, thank you sir for all you do and have done to document the human condition.
These people are the embodiment of the American values that I grew up with. Their words gave me hope for our future. Nothing happening today is new for our country and we'll hopefully grow stronger because of it.
15:10 "It's important that you're kind. It's important that you care about people."
Truer words have never been spoken.
Beautifully framed to capture the intimacy between them.
Mrs Kansas was pretty open and upfront with her feelings and ideas and memories....
Mr Kansas wanted to say more, wanted to open up, but I could see him choking on his insecurities and regrets.
Salt of the earth people who did their best with what they had available to them, materially, spiritually and intellectually...
Such a wonderful insight into the feelings of a couple of 'everyday' people.
Many thanks to Mr Hoffman for sharing his amazing body of work.
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Another great video by Mr Hoffman.
What a seemingly sweet couple. Im 63 and see where they are coming from. I remembered the tumultuousness of the time as a child. Thank you for this.
Beautiful Jim Key is a wonderful story.
The Vietnam war was a sham for profit that's terrible but our brave soldiers fought because they loved America and that demands deep respect. I will tell you a secret so deep and dark it will make the hardest heart weep. Being a young intelligence agent in 1979/80 we found 139 P.O.W.'s north of Hanoi in a camp, of these men we have 21 living in Tennessee.
H.Ross Perot a great Patriot brought back 186 living P.O.W.'s to America.
On April 6th 2019 an attack in Indo China by a volunteer force of Federal Agents repatriated 167 living P.O.W.'s to America.
None of these libing men have been made known to their famalies or countrymen.
SOME SECRETS SHOULD NEVER BE KEPT.
Imagine having parents like this? Oh to be so lucky. I don't know why I had to choke back tears watching this.. I don't even know these people.
Maximum respect to you Mr. Hoffman.
I'm an immigrant who's been living in the US for 6 years and I just want to thank you for all the documentation You have done through out your life and for being generous enough to share your collection with us. Your footage captures something beautiful that America has lost. Although I'm only 30 but I have an old soul that yearns to a time that I only got a taste of through llistening to old American folk and blues music back in my native country during my teens and early 20s. Whatever it is, call it soul, spirit or authenticity, that the great musicians of that era were able to capture with their words and musical instruments, you were able to capture it with your camera.
Salute, Sir.
Good Kansas couple interview. If only the people really did have more say in what happens. Thanks Mr. Hoffman for the chance to listen to these good people. I like the way the lady said she has learned to listen. Just one couple, but there was something in that for all of us.
Thank you David for another interesting video. I love listening to people's lifes from times gone by i was born in 1971 everyone can learn from other peoples storys .this is why i love your channel so much 💖😊💖xx i have just looked when this film was made and it was in 1989 that was the year my daughter was born she was called connie mae i lost her to cystic fibrosis in 2016 aged 26 she would have been 31 now 😊xx
I am saddened by your loss Sharon.
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Thank you x
I really enjoy hearing the perspectives of these older generations. Its helps paint the larger picture of society and I can better understand why we ended up where we're at today.
The passage of time is strange. I'm getting to an age (mid-30's) where I'm starting to realize just how fast it goes by. Like for instance, me, a relatively younger guy, watching you, an older guy (probably older than my dad but younger than my grandpa), interview older people when you were younger (not a lot older than I am now probably)..
Or just thinking about myself, my dad and my grandpa. Like my grandpa was a little younger than my dad is now when I was born and my dad was quite a bit younger than I am now (he was 23 and my grandpa was 48). Now, I'm nearly 35, my dad is 57 and my grandpa is 82. It's just weird that I don't have kids yet - my dad and grandpa were both in their early 20s when they started having kids. I don't know if I have the energy and willpower for it these days but I still want to have some.
And recently, I've been thinking about when I was a kid and still went to church with my parents - all the people in the congregation who were roughly middle-aged when I was a kid are now elderly.. It makes me think of the famous epitaph that's something like, "How you are, I once was. How I am, you will someday be" or something like that.. Makes you think. It's sort of cliche and morbid, but I kind of want that on my tombstone.. I guess being acutely aware of your mortality is somewhat of a good thing - it makes some people cherish their time more - but I fixate on it... It's just weird.
I've always _known_ this stuff, but it's really starting to sink in. Not that any of that has anything whatsoever to do with the video, but it seems like I think about these things when I watch your videos... Really, everything makes me think of time and death and stuff.. Maybe it's an early mid-life crisis lol.. I think about this stuff a lot and I always say/type/comment exactly what I'm thinking whether it's relevant or not - so I usually say these things a lot. I'm great fun at parties...lol..
An interesting commentary. Thank you for sharing it. I was raised to think that each day might be my last and while it has made me something of a neurotic, I have lived every day incredibly richly as a result. I think it's better to think the way you are currently thinking as it will make your days richer and more meaningful not only at night but during the experience.
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This is probably one of the best comment I've ever read because of its simplistic points. What you're feeling is natural. I just turned 35 in November and I still have trouble maintaining a relationship...I have no kids and I don't have your normal 9-5 job. I wanna do so much in life that it seems impossible because when you're living the moment...life is passing by without you even noticing...and BOOM...you're 40...50....so I think the best way to overcome this feeling you have is by traveling...and just talking with ppl...taking care of yourself is very crucial...
PS: if you ever read this...please feel free to reply back
These videos are a fascinating look into the minds of our ancestors. This is great because typically you only see celebrities or news stories from previous eras. This is real people talking about their lives.
These people are just lovely and so honest. David, thank you for these perspectives. 💛 Blessings to you and your family.
OHH WOOOOWWW DAVID!! U GOT SOME UNMATCHED CONTENT HERE!
1989 WAS MY BIRTH YEAR! YAAAYYYYYYYY
I love these two! The expanded view we get from this source footage is a wonderful thing. I watched the entire series on PBS when it first aired, and I still have it on VHS. Excellent work. Thanks for everything you post here.
These sixties pieces are breathtaking. Amazing to see the integrity of these folks. I have the sinking feeling that Baby Boomers spent the good will of their parents’ generation, and now they have nothing left to draw on for the sake of leading Millenials and Gen Z. Imagine the 60s without the bedrock of the Boomers’ parents! The 2020s will be rough.
Baby Boomers and after have nothing but easy time and easy times make for weak people. The generation in this video were old enough to remember the depression and wars, they knew bad times.
@@lordfinbar Living without depression and wars makes you weak? So you don't believe in the universal goal of ending suffering and wars?
Argyle, You really need to reconsider your comment. Generational stereotyping is just as wrong as racism and other blind prejudice.
I find it interesting that you and me grew up in close proximity to each other in New York and both are fond of the Midwest people you Kansas me Nebraska. The authenticity you captured on film here is real no do overs ! I was drawn in when the mom said you have got to be a good listener. Almost a lost art these days. Thank you once again David Hoffman - filmmaker
Thanks to you and Jen.
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What they say towards the end about the kicking and screaming that *has* to be done, and the pendulum that *has* to swing too far: I really felt that. There's so much damn crazy in the world just now that it really turns me off, but I have secretly thought for a while that maybe it's necessary for progress. Thanks as always Mr Hoffman.
As a fellow filmmaker i admire your artistic insight, love for the power of film and the importance of stories. Great stuff.
I always look forward to watching your documentaries your videos of real life from real people I highly admire you and respect you beyond any fashionable words it goes Deeper Than Words I have this odd feeling that maybe one day I'll have the opportunity to speak to you that truly would be an amazing experience
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Lovely- thank you
It feels like they're speaking in regard to recent years, not the 60s. It goes to show that we can learn from the past. Great video.
Imagine having parents like this. My parents kicked me out of the family for my activism for civil rights and against the Vietnam war. 👏
Thank you for being brave.
I went ahead and reluctantly served, Tender Heart. But back then at least we could communicate with activists -- at least y'all could articulate your position, unlike the riotors and violent people of today. Funny, I ended up afterward getting kicked out of my nuclear family as well. It was far more complicated than poeple make it sound. I truly hope your life turned out well. Be a blessing.
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Thank you, Mike. I respect your choice. I was tempted to go as medical help. I just hurt for you guys. We just had to stop that war. I couldn’t justify it in my heart or brain.
P.s. Being a blessing is my goal. 🌸
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Absolutely! Still standing. 🌸
HI Dave, you need a prize for helping time and understanding humanity, you got my vote Dave, big fan of yours here.
Thank you.
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Imagine people from space watching this in the year 2200
Always wonderful content😊
Thank You for Sharing
They are Amazing
Just LOVE ❤ ⚘ Them
What a Lovely, kind, enlightened couple 💖
A 1960’s expression that I haven’t heard since then, “It wasn’t my bag.”
For you, Mr. Hoffman...I wish you a very successful You Tube channel.
This was interesting to watch. And very relatable today.
David, thank you so much for all the years of incredible work. Everything you do is excellent.
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When I listen to them, I feel a long string connecting us through time and events. The stark similarities seem profound. I’ve always had key events and images and ideas of that decade, but now that we are living through our current history, it has a new meaning of relevance. Like I’m living their life. Really important for people to see these, this is how we learn, this is why documenting history is important, thank you David.
great people are intertwined throughout this world 🌎 👏 😃 🙏
My generation had no way to understand our parents views. To them, Vietnam was equated with WWII, but the boys coming back told us a different story. This is a lovely couple, clearly as confused as all our parents yet supportive and concerned about what their children were doing and thinking. Our parents generation had fought for a life of peace and plenty, but couldn’t see how far from that hope the world had strayed. Every now and then...youth can see the lie and become angry and rebellious. I think that is how leadership passes from one generation to the next. Thanks for introducing this couple to us.🖤🇨🇦
Thank you David made my day~matt
It always amazes me whatt I "learn" when I look back, that I did not at best fully appprecited during the time. Another great job, David.Thanks for sharing. Be a blessing.
Godamn i love this channel
60s and 70s was hard times for Americans, and also Europeans, Vietnam war, civil war in Europe. My Cousin was 3 years in Vietnam as pilot on HUA-1, thats a loooong time. I was just a kid, but I remember `Life Magazine`, with photos of the war. For Me, war was the Normal....and maybe still is.
What civil wars were there in 1960s in europe?
The only civil war was the one in Ireland/north Ireland.
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Basque Country, I was there. in San Sebastian, my co-worker was killed.
Thank you again David for posting this.
I used to look at people and ask myself, "Why are they so tense, upset and angry all the time." After 70 years on this planet I now look at people with empathy and compassion, I make an attempt to understand where they're coming from instead of judging them.
Thanks for this calm interview with this couple from Kansas. It's good how openminded they are and how the lady said they learned to accept a lot of things and know what is important. A good lesson. People like this couple need to be listened to more by people in power.
Whenever I hear about Kansas I think of your film 'A beautiful film on the people of Kansas'. A film I will happily watch again and explains a lot about Kansas.
Thank you for your comment Peter. I am proud of my work done in Kansas.
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@@DavidHoffmanFilmmaker Thanks for making the Kansas film available to watch. Well worth watching.
They're so sweet and genuine. . Brings tears to my eyes
What an absolutely wonderful pair of parents. Still together after the divorce culture, reflective and compassionate on specific topics.
I think the 60's shift to the boomers is actually a change of the majority from introspection to extroversions. It was evident in media, family, and society as a whole and the rebuke introversion recieved was extroverted uprising which is a modicum that is considered chaotic to introverts.
All your videos have meaning to me. Very interesting and full of value. War should be very rare.
I'm feeling so many emotions after this video, I'm not really sure which one to tap into. So much food for thought.
I am in my 40s. I have 6 children, teens through mid 20s. We have communicated and listened.
Incredible content, Mr Hoffman!
For the longest time I did'nt care about documentaries. It was'nt that I did'nt like them, but they where just that, documentaries. Sience I found you, I've come to realise that they are an art form, just as much as cinema itself. But I've also learned that, just like cinema, they have intention, framing and manipulation. An that's ok, as a hobbist photographer myself, I know that just by framing a picture, you are manipulating reality. Somehow I did'nt realise that about documentaries before. Have a nice day
Beautiful!
You sir are obviously talented to get people to share their inner thoughts. The emotions they express says this was not practiced. Her pendulum theory seems apt for these divisive times. Beauty of those times - people could express themselves without being mass trolled or bullied, But then no channel would show such vids so it’s great to live in youtube times and enjoy your work.
What a sweet and thoughtful couple.❤
I love these people! They're so warm and honest. I wish they were my parents! 🤣💗
"I hope we'll be more cautious about entering other countries" HAHA NOPE!
You gotta admit, Trump is the first in many years to not start new conflicts/wars.
@@raizinboyz sustained bombing and drone campaigns in syria were continued; still the same troops in afghanistan and iraq. military bases all over the world that should not be there in almost every country on earth. drone strikes that killed an iranian war hero who led the fight against ISIS, likely a large factor in ending that caliphate. murders for political and economic mercenary causes. playing a tenuous game with sanctions in iran, the dprk, venezuela, syria, bolivia, cuba--- so what if there wasnt a new war? there is still a dirty saudi war in yemen that we help fund, only for the sake of maintaining exploitative trade relationships. obama took bush's brutal immigration plans to full fruition; there are children in cages at our border. just as we waterboarded against geneva conventions on torture, we are violating refugees human rights. democrats and republicans are both "liberals," liberalism is putting property rights over human rights. it is capitalism with similarity to roman plunder; all the great developments of the west are either stolen or built on human slavery and violent repression of the natural order. no, no one has to admit trump didnt start new conflicts. the old conflict of the working people against parasitic minority of capitalist rulers continues. he brought the obvious underlying fascism of america to the forefront, causing chaos and sowing distrust that leaves room for militia white supremacists to recruit. he leaves room for joe biden to capitalize on the other side of it, dumb suburban white supremacists who want to be loved by the minorities they oppress while doing nothing to protect them. he will pass gun control that disarms those poor and oppressed masses. then another trump or even trump running again will win, and the turmoil and exploitation will continue. whether it is joe biden or trump, they govern for amazon and macdonalds, not to keep you alive. it isnt them who decide the new wars, its the necessity of the system in its inevitable decay. stop worshipping false G*ds like money (mammon, a demon) or the rich. they are humans, frail, weak, idiots
wars are still there even if you arent looking at them. americans are kept ignorant by all sides of the mass media
@@moosesgalore exactly!!!
Thank you for your videos. I am 25 and you were able to reach me. I just love documentaries so much. I want a David Hoffman hat just so I can point at it. I just might buy one.
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Glad yo see this my dad was in Vietnam 🇻🇳 back then things were different but i was born in 1974 and things were wayyy different growing up for me than they are times are always a changing my friend but we have to ask ourselves moving forward are we hurting the future or helping the future by keeping on forward example /---
a mechanic has a shop for automobiles 🚘
man shows up with car running all rough things are all out of whack
oh ita the timing so he turns distributor until he gets it by earshot perfect even has a glass sitting on the engine block...gets to noticing maybe isnt right upon further review with a light he needed go a littleee more and he pinned it down all was in unison and he got satisfactory results - as well as the customer was happy it was running great and our country can be looked upon as a timing issue when he was setting the timing he didnt keep looking for a better than perfect point because he already was shown through experience as well as predicted through the manual there was a set point and that was it!! humanas can let the illusion of grandeur entrance us as a whole and we can seek out problems that are non existent and also mistake good gor bad and bad for good if the overall aspects of the subject aren't methodically investigated without prejudices and determined truthfully the results whether the results are favorable of the ones we seek or whoever is reviewing and analyzing seek as the whole worlds possibly at stake upon releasing things and alot comes behind releasing technologies to society without alot of weighed up results of realtime short and some longer if necessary studies in human interaction health and that hoes gor physical and mental as well!! but yea if a mechanic keeps turning the distributor to try and imlrove perfectly fine timing then he will go from off time of 1 end of spectrum past the perfect timeing point to off timing again on other end of the spectrum! we seem to maybe either headex there or already been to perfect as can be and now head to other end or maybe we are approaching the perfection i speak of of course always will be a tolerance (+/-) involved in anything m multiple millions of people are involved!! but im speaking majority and majority rules it doesn't mean the smaller groups opinions doesnt count but they camt possibly expect their opinion to dominate the majorities reality or worls just isnt how it works sorry but thats life ! but yea nice job man oh man you my friend always do a wonderful job 👏 👍 ✌👌🤙🤙🤙🤙 👍 👌
I’d love to hear their views on the state of the union in 2020.
you just did in a way
@@gdola1, lol. Yes, I see the ambiguity now.
I wonder what I would say at that age as a 2000 person? Time is really short when you stop to realise it...
14:50 great insight
Sweet, filled with love.
I love your videos but I must admit the amount of comment saying people were better back then is a little silly, people have been the same since the beginning of time. It’s good we have this video to set an example for younger generations on how to age compassionately :o)
I was born in 1989. This is so interesting.
If only we could all just LISTEN AND FEEL other's emotions and feelings ✌🌍❤ to everyone reading ❤❤❤❤
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The 60's were stepping stones to a brighter future that didn't happen !
Now it's our own governments that have torn everything apart, dismantled all the jobs and divided the people all the way down to the family ! ✌️ 🇨🇦
Do you know if the couple are still living? Very nice couple :)
They are lovely
We have not learned, we will never learn. People fight its just the way of the world. Wish I could say different.
Remember when people were not polarized, would pause to contemplate, and were able to articulate in calm tones? I do.
In middle America, you’ll find some of the kindest, nicest and humble people on the planet. Has anybody ever considered this may also have been our downfall? Is it possible to be too nice? Too trusting? Too patient? I don’t think so, but I’ve often struggled with an answer to that question. In the wake of the 1960’s and early 1970’s we voted for someone we thought was nice, honest and humble. The world is still dealing with the messes he made 40 years later. This paradox is something us American’s over 45 still grapple with. I guess it’s easy to be nice gentle and kind until you come face to face with evil. What happens when diplomacy doesn’t work and you end up doing more harm than good in the name of kindness? My earliest childhood memories are of our American hostages in Iran being blindfolded, spat upon, and having their dignity stripped of them, while our kind & patient President couldn’t do a darn thing about it. He was too busy normalizing relations with China and severing ties with our allies in Taiwan. Does anyone remember the people of Taiwan pouring gasoline on themselves and setting themselves on fire due to fear of being ruled by Communist China after we normalized relations with them?
I wonder what their childhoods where like compared to their children’s.
How much of the disagreement with, and protesting against the Vietnam war, especially by young men of draft age, was claimed to be done out of true moral objection, but actually done out of pure cowardice? I firmly believe it was overwhelmingly due to cowardice.
I have never seen any statistics on this but to some extent, I'm sure you are correct
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Any way to see the whole series? Is it available online anywhere by chance?
Unfortunately, it is not available online. I do sell DVD copies mostly to schools and libraries and collectors.
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Great documentary and great people!!! Sadly, the USA invaded Iraq and the mess was the sane or worse!!! As a father, I understand their feelings.
At the time they expressed that USA was a better country. Well, tolerance didn't last long... No war should ever occur or be justified.
The fluff on the guy's eyelashes and that fact that he doesn't get rid of it bugs the HECK out of me!! You can tell he notices it but he doesn't do anything!
How old do you think they are here? They have to be born in the 1920's right?
yes.
one of the things he said was I hope our country would stay out of countries. Wish the Bush's, Clinton, and Obama would have taken his advice
I can see the father is getting real uncomfortable in this video , the coughing ect. No lady were not getting there when people give themselves into wild abandon trouble is on the horizon sexual diseases are not progress I'm so sad for you
Tolerance and compassion and nonviolence sounds nice but is it really that nice when violent cruel North Vietnamese Communists are destroying a country? and oh yes, just tolerate them and be compassionate? Tolerate their cruelty and human rights abuses ... don’t help the victims ... no that would be violent omg ...
Good men signed up to help and many died.
Is the draft fair? No.
Is it necessary? I don’t know. Military service should be voluntary.
Agent Orange was a terrible weapon that should not have been used but nonviolence and sitting back to do nothing while others suffer is not a virtue.
Just like it is not a virtue now to hail rioters while they loot and burn cities.
It is not a virtue to tolerate criminals and not help the victims.
Such malarkey makes me vomit.
Long hair, don't care.
The late 60s were a highly divisive time in the US, that's true, but I don't agree that the divisiveness was "like today" as you suggest.
In 1968, roughly half the public supported the war in Vietnam and half opposed it.
In 2020, a little more than half the population demonstrated their support for the forthcoming Joseph Biden and Kamala Harris administration.
The other less-than-half demonstrated the chilling ease with which they were manipulated into abandoning democracy, equal application of the rule of law and practically every other inalienable human right guaranteed in the constitution -- aside from the 2nd ammendment of course.
In light of the Trump administration's relentless attacks on democracy, civil rights, social services, the fair and equal application of the law and basic human decency, to name just a few, the cultural divide in the 60s over whether we should be using our military to prevent Vietnam from adopting communism seems remarkably quaint.