Why Didn't Florida Join The American Revolution?
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- Опубліковано 29 лют 2024
- In this video, we take a look at what Florida was doing during the American War of Independence, and explain why it was that they remained loyal to the British crown.
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Sources and Further Reading
[1] Brevard, Caroline Mays. “A History of Florida.” American Book Company, 1904, chapter 11. archive.org/details/historyof...
[2] Williams, Linda K. “East Florida as a Loyalist Haven.” The Florida Historical Quarterly, vol. 54, no. 4, 1976, pp. 465-78. JSTOR, www.jstor.org/stable/30147362.
[3] “The British Period (1763-1784)”. NPS.org, Castillo de San Marcos, the National Park Service, 20 April, 2022. www.nps.gov/casa/learn/histor....
[4] “History of Florida.” Wikipedia, the Free Encyclopedia. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Histo...
[5] Brotemarkle, Ben. “Florida's Importance in the Revolutionary War Largely Overlooked.” Florida Frontiers, 18 October 2016. Uploaded to MyFloridaHistory.org, the Florida Historical Society. myfloridahistory.org/frontier...
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The first continental congress asked Quebec, Florida, and other colonies to send delegates. Nova Scotia wanted to join the revolution but the colonies couldn’t send any aid to them.
I didn’t know that. That’s very interesting. They must have been so far out that they couldn’t be apart of it.
@@USA_USA_USA force you? I don't think so. We were already at war with Japan and Germany, had been since September 1939. So when Japan attacked Pearl Harbour on the 07 . 12 . 1941, the Germans declared war on America. So you had to fight your enemies, we were allies.
@@davidthompson4662 You were at war with Germany, not Japan. When the Japanese attacked Pearl Harbor Churchill was itching to declare war on Japan because he had promised to join America against whoever they were fighting be it Japanese, Germans, or Martians so long as it resulted in America joining the fight. Roosevelt would have preferred Churchill cool his jets and said as much in a cable but the Japanese said had already said to hell with everybody and declared war on Britain and the U.S so really the point was moot.. It was part of their six-month plan to run crazy and create a Pacific fortress. They needed British, French, and Dutch colonies to get the job done.
@@itinerantpatriot1196 I stand corrected, my mistake and you are right.
@@USA_USA_USA in what world do you exist in which the British could FORCE the USA to do anything, possibly the greatest world power since before the war even started
I'm British, and I didn't even know Florida was a British colony.
Edit - Yes, it was a British colony for a short period of time. The video is correct, I have looked it up. Britain got it from Spain, but then ended up giving it back to Spain a few years later, who then sold it to the US.
I’m Floridian and didn’t know the same
@@Argenbiz Yeah, that's probably why I didn't know. I knew the Spanish named it, and I knew the US got it from the Spanish, so I just assumed it had been Spanish the whole time.
@@user-kv4nc4nx8f I mean, it's no surprise really. Florida under either Spanish or British control was like a few meaningless islands in the Caribbean swapping flags a few times. Florida was such a difficult, dangerous wilderness it really wasn't until the inventions of heavy machinery and air conditioning that it really gained a large population. During it's Spanish ownerships it was basically just St. Augustine and Pensacola which were little more than fort towns. There were lots of (many failed) attempts at plantations and the like once the United States got it from Spain, but the real history of Florida begins mostly in the 20th century. And now it's an amazing place and a huge population center in the Southeast US.
Everything was British at one time or another
@@Argenbiz Louisiana was a spanish colony for 40 out of 300 years
I live in Baton Rouge LA, and here the British had a battle against Spanish trying to capture fort manchac.
Yes, there's a lot of missing information from this video. We are in the westernmost point of Spanish West Florida.
@@checoniapw1273 we are kinda the forgotten front it seems. But a lot of events helped shape up the American revolution here, and so many people just don’t know.
@@derekmiles2543 in Springfield, in The bottom of Livingston Parish there was a fort battle. The West Florida Revolution. American "settlers" won, routing the Spanish back on home.
Same thing in the Natchez District with Ft. Panmure. My Alston ancestors were involved in that one. The area was full of British Loyalists, Tories who left the colonies (mine North Carolina) for British held territory. When the Spanish took over the fort, the local militia recaptured it briefly, only to have the Spanish send ships up the Mississippi from New Orleans and regain control. Most locals fled when this happened, mine to US held territories. They could tolerate the Patriots, but they could not tolerate the Spanish.
@@checoniapw1273 yup always wondered why from here through Livingston , I-12 was the West Florida republic freeway
Florida man spills tea on his fish and chips.
Cursed.
@@cammyman32blessed
"I daresay, we could prop'pup a li''le resort 'ere, roight?"
wow
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Being born and raised in Saint Augustine but having moved away for work, this is a nice taste of home. 👍 Nice work
Born in Florida, and yes, I take the Florida man behavior with me everywhere I go.
Proud of that, huh? Figures. HA!
Who is The Florida Man?
And how did the Spanish got paid? The Anglosaxons took our Spanish lands of California, Tejas, Philippines, Guam, Cuba, Puerto Rico, etc. That's not fair.
@@LucyMG-fx3zxJust fuck the natives there right? "It's rightfully 's land!" Lol, what a fallacy.
I'm also a florida born dude who shares it with everyone everywhere I go God bless. 😊
In St. Augustine, you can find the British flag flying alongside the American, Spanish, and even French flags.
Also the Confederate. Florida was the third state to secede from the US.
@@marcbahn5487 To be fair, Florida had only been a state for about 16 years at the time and had only been wrested from the Spanish about 25 years before that so we didn't have deep "American" roots at the time. Originally Florida was going to go it alone but decided to join the Confederacy believing in strength in numbers.
ONE FLAG TEH A MERCIAN FLAG ONLY !1!1
Very nice. My favorite professor in college always joked that, during the bicentennial, Florida should have had the phrase “Loyalist State” put on their license plates. He would always say that, during the time, he petitioned the governor of Florida. But as of the early 90s, when I was in college, had still heard, nothing back concerning the matter!
As someone who has studied history and wars for 25 years I legit never knew that the British controled Florida at any point... I always thought the Spanish controled it all the way through to when they sold it to America... You learn something new every day... Also did not know that the modern gulf states were called west florida for a period ...
Britain's possession of Florida was *very* brief. They were awarded Florida after the Seven Years War, and lost it after the American Revolution. So for only 20 years, from 1763-1783, Florida was British.
@@BS-vx8dg yeah it's just crazy I didn't know that.. I'm not casually into history.. I'm really into it.. especially European and American
Same here. I don't know if I was daydreaming in school or if they skipped this part
Me too.
@@DavidMcdonald-df8tb yes but the history books in school don't show 100% of all that went on
As a Floridian born and raised it's always good to see history videos on my home state of Florida the swamp, you should do some videos on the Seminole tribe they was here long before the Spanish, and I'm starting to think that Miami tribe was as well .
the seminole were a conglomerate of multiple other tribes who had been forced from their land, and escaped slaves. disease and the spanish killed off all the original tribes well before the american revolution.
Fellow FL man here. What I find interesting is that the state was mostly unpopulated until the early 1900s. The Chief Osceola story and where the seminoles came from is great. The stories of the Indian Billy bowlegs(named after the pirate)….all super interesting. Pensacola is the oldest city btw lol. Key west history is ridiculously ripe with tales of riches and pirates and treasure and Hemingway stuff.
The Seminoles and other Muscogean Indians didn't move into Florida until the 1700s. The Apalachee were in north Florida when the Spaniards arrived. A few centuries of war and disease almost led to their extinction and finally a migration to present day Louisiana (and led the Spanish to name the Appalachian mountains after them). Tallahassee is a Seminole word meaning old fields or abandoned village because it was obvious the area had been settled previously.
The seminoles were definitely here before the Spanish but the seminoles kinda became a tribe because of the U.S. government. A lot of Indians that didn’t want to go west because of Jackson fled to Florida. The Seminole tribe was a much later tribe to the creeks. The creeks being one of the first. The final Seminoles wound up in south Florida Orlando area. They continued to flee further south into the swamps to avoid union troops. Most of Florida at that time was completely impassable.
@@longsleevethong1457 the Seminole culture did not exist before the Spanish arrived, their predecessor tribes were. They formed from refugees that escaped the forced removal from Alabama, Georgia and Tennessee and moved south to the still British Florida colonies. The Poarch Creek band is another Muscogean people that managed to stay in modern Alabama and is the only recognized tribe in the state.
This and the History of Nations and Peoples are my favorite type of content from you. Great upload!
Very well summarized. Thank you.
You missed one of the reasons for the sale of Florida. Florida was a Part of New Spain during Spanish rule and it had a big group of insurgents, it was seen as a menace for stability in an already unstable Spanish empire. That is also why a group of Napoleonic Wars veterans like Louis Michell Aury and Agustín Codazzi proclamated the Republic of Florida in 1817 which was the First Republic to use the Eagle and the Snake symbol in a Flag before the independance of the Empire of Mexico.
I think you need to add Gregor MacGregor to that list of names. He was the leader and founder of the country.
Wow, as an Aussie learning about US history, it is so incredibly fascinating. There are so many twists and turns and backstories. The amount of European powers wheeling and dealing and chewing on the fringes, it's surprising America was able to keep them all at bay and become independent.
American history is very fascinating. Florida was Spanish, Louisiana was French. Texas was originally Spanish, then part of Mexico and lastly the Republic of Texas. All of the west was basically Spanish speaking and the Spanish names of the states have pretty much survived. Last but not least, Hawaii was an independent kingdom. Every state has a unique history behind it.
It was in fact the complex rivalries of Britain, France and Spain that gave the Americans opportunities and aid they would not have had.
Washington got his military training as a British officer in the French and Indian (Seven Years') War. I doubt the War of Independence would have been successful had not many American leaders participated in the earlier conflict.
As an American and Floridan, it surprises how much isn't taught in our schools. Thank you Fire of Learning.
I’ve watched all your food history videos like 4 times and need more!
I think we'll fit at least one in this year. Thank you!
Perfect videos to watch right before you get ready for bed.
Should be a series of videos around 9:30 PM, that get u into pre sleeo mode.
I'm such a Florida Man, I put the "bro" in Broward County.
But you root for the Mets???
@@lexingtonconcord8751 In Broward County, everyone is required to have at least one New York sports team they root for. When the Jets are visiting the Dolphins, it's basically an extra Jets home game.
@@fishamaphoneNo, that’s just y’all who moved here from up north. Real Broward natives are Heat, Marlins and Dolphins fans
@@chrisb9977You absolute n00b, you forgot the Panthers. Go and turn in your Florida badge, it's been revoked.
@@chrisb9977 how could you forget the U they were running s*** back in the day before that booster snitched on everybody .
My wife's ancestors were Loyalists who fled to the Island of Spanish Wells in the Bahamas where most of them still live, at one time owning the power and telephone company as well as all utilities. Her grandfather emigrated to the United States through Key West and eventually settled in Miami.
Great video never knew anything about this and I love history !
This I didn't know! Thanks!
When I taught middle school history, I always sat on those 200years we spent British. So un- taught today! War of Jenkins' Ear, Austrian and Spanish Successions, etc.
I shouldn't joke about warfare, but I can't help but laugh everytime I hear the name, "The War of Jenkins Ear". Well, at least they didn't cut his "Tool" 🔧 off.
West and East Florida was British for less than a generation. 1763 to 1779-1781. It would remain Spanish again for only a generation 1780 to 1812west/1821east (really 1816).
The French lost what is West Florida on this map to the British and Spanish in 1763. The French would only reclaim Louisiana for two weeks in Dec 1803 before handing over the deed by purchase to the USA.
The Pearl River Parishes (Slidell to Perdido River (Mobile/Baldwin Co) were contested from 1803 to 1813 (US v Spain)
@@STho205 Well said. As I commented a moment ago, this video has a major shortcoming in that it ignores that Florida probably didn't join the Revolution because it was still more Spanish than British or American.
Sorry, when I said "we" I should have clarified "we" in South Carolina. We (Americans) have as much crazy history between 1607 and 1776 as we do 1776-present.
Three Musketeers is commonly set in 1625, Pirates of the Caribbean in the early 1700s; the American coast were still European colonies then, but it's hard to find people who know what the future US did then. It's so often just "Roanoke, Jamestown, Plymouth, French & Indian War, Revolution". Whoa wait! You gonna skip the decade or so of Oliver Cromwell? Totally ignore the Union of the Crowns? Those Succession wars and the Anglo-Dutch wars? Those impacted here too.
I digress...
Fascinating, learned something
Many, many thanks for explaining at part of my history I never knew about. I grew up in a part of Alabama that was then a part of West Florida.
West florida never existed. This guy is trolling
A large part of east Alabama . Was once part of florida . That's a fact. Look it up.
Fun Fact: Escaped slaves were allowed to stay in Spanish Florida if they converted to Catholicism.
Did they remain free when the United States aquired Florida?
@@joelsirola5440 nope, they were driven out or exterminated like the local natives.
@@cjclark1208many of them joined the local natives
Fun fact: Slavery did not end in Cuba until the 1880s.
@@user-qb8yr4vb4u It ended the day Castro drove out Batista and the sugar plantation owners + their middlemen mangers/families to Florida and elsewhere, in the late 50s.
Florida was only ruled by the British from 1763 to 1783. Other than that they were a Spanish colony. They had no real kinship with the 13 that fought the revolution
And that was because both were fighting Napoleon.
It was not technically British ever. Simply, the British were permitted to have troops in Florida during a very little period of time.
The video is pure crap
You're a bit too early there. The Napoleonic War didn't start until 1803. Long after the American Revolution had ended and beyond the focus of this video. Britain was at War with Spain during the Revolutionary period hence the capture of Cuba which they exchanged for Spanish Florida.@@marvinbrando722
With less than 10000 citizens, not much kinship with Spain either
a very educating video, which is chock full of history!!!!!!!
0:35 Violin Viola Masterclass! Subbed to her channel. Small world indeed!
My Family is an original settler of Ormond Beach, Fla. They were English . Never knew this, Ty !
Howdy cousin ! 🇬🇧 👍 !
James Carnell -Great Floridian & 1st Postmaster .@@2msvalkyrie529
@@pierredecine1936 Francisco Pellicer was the first Postmaster.
You are wrong@@2dub2steady
@@pierredecine1936 would you like to tell me how i am wrong? Pellicer was the first postmaster in Florida. The brits weren't even in Florida yet. Ormond Beach didn't exist.
Thx for making informative documentaries and other random questions about history
So take some money
Thank you!
@@Fireoflearning np
I can already see the Habitual Linecrosser short on this.
I don't think I ever knew Florida was split into two colonies. I don't know if I even knew Florida was briefly British, lol. Thank you for another excellent educational video, as always.
God be with you out there, everybody. ✝️ :)
Yes, because Florida was 2 colonies, When they merged, Tallahassee was chosen as the capital because it was halfway between Pensacola and Saint Augustine.
@scottmilo2971 Ohh, well, that makes sense, I suppose. Thank you for teaching me yet another new Florida fact.
West Florida did have present-day Pensacola, the second-largest town during its British colonial days, and most of the "Panhandle" to about Tallahassee. However, in 1783, to have some Gulf of Mexico "frontage", the area from present-day Pritchard, AL to Slidell, LA, was ceded to the USA, which the state of Georgia claimed as it did all territory westward to the Mississippi River. In time, as the Constitution was worked up and subsequently ratified, Georgia, like those of the "original thirteen" that likewise claimed land westward, ceded it in return for assumption of Revolutionary War debts and pensions for veterans. It did gain some land which enabled Metro Atlanta as well as Columbus and Albany. The rest became the states of Alabama and Mississippi. Spain, with its Bourbon dynasty strapped for cash after the Napoleonic Wars, sold Florida to the USA in 1819. There was consideration to divide the territory, due to its size, but what are now the Tampa Bay area and Metro Miami were just a few isolated villages; there simply weren't enough people in what would have been "East" Florida, and the rather hostile Seminoles had their own notions of "immigration control".
A recent 2022 video from the Sons of the American Revolution revealed that the Founding Fathers would first toast George Washington and then secondly would toast Bernardo de Gálvez who was the Spanish Governor of Louisiana during the American Revolution!
The Founding Fathers credited George and Bernie as the two most responsible for our liberation!
The reason nobody knows this-according to the SAR video was that it was never included in most history books! Simply amazing! I always thought France was the only hero in the American Revolution story but now I can't help but question the exact measure of French aid that was taught to me.
Spain definitely tipped the balance in favor of both France and the 13 Colonies! Spain did so much to help us! Professor of history Kathleen DuVal said that Spain provided MORE troops than France and fought MORE battles and won MORE VICTORIES in the American Revolution! Thanks Spain! 🇺🇲
A decision im sure spain would regret to this day considering the future events that occurred between them.
@@chrisdonish True but still, this is an event all Hispanics can be proud of knowing our ancestors helped with American liberty! 🗽
People should know it wasn't just France lol! Spain was just as significant as France if not more so and I would argue more so!
I am from the West Florida Parishes. It was ex British Loyalists who rebeled. We are proud of our flag, which Texas stole from us.
I wouldn't say stole, more like we drew inspiration from it.
@@marcusbierman5310 they are identical
@@matthewhecht9257Plagiarism is the highest form of flattery.
That funny 😂
In 1783 until 1821 the Northshore and lakes above New Orleans belonged to the Spanish. The parishes contained are still called the Florida Parishes. Spanish West Florida, stolen from the Choctaw.
Not stolen. Finessed.
Not stolen, what happened is the Choctaw gave themselves to the Spanish Empire and raided U.S. lands under Spains name.
The U.S. then offered Spain the choice between war or allowing the U.S. to buy the land so that they could destroy the Choctaw.
"stolen"
And Spain was not given a choice they can't refuse. Former British citizens of the former colonies, began to immigrate to Florida and settle in Florida. They refused to pay Spanish taxes, revolted, and got beaten by regular Spanish forces. These former British citizens thought they can do the same thing to the Spanish, what they did to the British. The Spanish handed their assets to them. These former British citizens sued Spain for losses, and Spain agreed to turn over Florida to the former British colonies; in lieu of the sued amount.
Stolen lol cry more
Born and raised in Jacksonville, FL. And as always, Florida does it's own thing
This is a good video. The West Florida colony did include Baton Rouge, but it never included New Orleans. The border with Louisiana was bayou Manchac, Lake Maurepas, and Lake Pontchartrain.
They didn't because they were under the protection of Florida Man, the superhero who no one wanted, no one deserved, no one asked for, but by golly, he was the one Florida was gonna get and THEY WERE GOING TO LIKE IT WHETHER THEY WANTED OR NOT.
Well I guess it’s true what they say , you learn something new every day! Thankyou !!
Excellent
I have a land grant title ( lots of writing on it ) for our family farm in deep South Georgia stamped with a reddish colored wax seal and a frayed red ribbon along with the King of Englands signature for an ancestors service during the Indian war. It stays in a safety deposit box in a bank, I've only seen it 2 times myself.
Very interesting
Imagine how much crazier the Florida Man would be if he was Bri'sh.
Would basically be an Australian
Considering southerners are quite similar culturally to the english, they kinda already are
Literally just an Australian
@@gopherasoda2492I disagree.
Brits and American southerners have a different accent, different lifestyle and a different culture
Imagine how much more respectful you'd seem if you spelled British correctly. Grow up.
Florida man born and raised. Thank you for telling some of the History of my swamp brethren. We rode valiantly around the swamps on our crocodiles searching for alleged Phoenician artefacts such as the Treasure Island sacrificial statues left near the Bay, written about in the late 1900s.
Have you assualted anyone with a taco lately?
Wonderful
Now, Florida is insane.
Nobody really colonized Florida until the air conditioner was invented.
😂
Now I want to know what happen to the Loyalists in Florida after the Spanish took it back.
Almost nothing. I grew up in Mobile/Pensacola. The families retained their properties and status. As Spain gave way to France then to the UK then to Spain again 1780s....they were still all royal colonies. Swear oaths to royalty... you're fine.
The biggest royal exchange problem was Catholic Majesty going to Anglican Majesty...and often Catholic families moved. For instance in 1763 many Mobile French white families moved to Spanish New Orleans from newly British Mobile. However the French Creole Noir (mixed black and white) property and slave holders remained in the area to this day.
Well here from Baton Rouge to north shore LA we declared ourselves the West Florida republic, and fought against spainish rule !
Nothing much till Andy showed up on a Adams II to covert OP. Then, there was a change in attitude, and loyalties based upon Property and Wealth.... Wishy, at best.....
@@ridgerunner5772 I worked on two films about that very subject in the early 00s. A History Channel one (The Conquerors) and a PBS film (Good and Evil in the Presidency)
As someone who was born('91) and raised in Tallahassee, FL this video taught me a few things that our education system left out. Proud to be the "crazy Florida man" my friends call me lmao. I WILL ride my alligator through the swamps to go obtain a Publix Sub on my way to school.
They had condos in Palm Beach.
Florida man has a picture of the Queen in his bedroom.
What is the name and artist of the painting of the Spanish flag being replaced by the USA flag on a flagpole at 5:58 ?
Cool video. How much, if any, did piracy play in Spain's eventual sale to America?
I'm a firm believer we should bring back West Florida.
Can you think of a cooler name? The Panhandle? I don't know.
I personally like Lower Alabama 🤣
Trying to imagine Spaniards living in Florida, choosing to go to Cuba, vs. Today.
Thank You for sharing this Born and raised and still living in Florida. Interesting history.
More videos on Florida please
Bet those Floridians wish they'd stayed British, they'd be speaking English today rather than Spanish
Calling the war the “French and Indian War” is an American naming convention. In Canada it’s called the Seven Years War.
We call it that because we fought the French and their Indian allies. We weren't involved in the "Seven Years" part of it with all the other nations. You can think of the French and Indian war as a campaign in the broader Seven Years War, which we were not involved in.
in america we don't even think about canada
In america israel has their choice of your kids.
And of which teens to use as soldiers in their middle eastern wars yikes @Choppa1156
History of Netherlands vid plssss
Fascinating little known anecdote. Thank you for this.
Will watch the video, but considering very few English lived there I don't see why they would've joined. Most people there were Spanish, Africans and Natives. Although the population was very small.
And if you did watch the video, I'm sure you like me were disappointed that the writer apparently was unaware of the incredibly brief time that Florida had been British.
@@BS-vx8dg From what I know few English wanted to settle there during the British years, but in the video they mentioned they did attract some people. But only 30.000 people or so lived there when it was made a US state.
@@puppetguy8726 Yeah, even if the Crown had major plans to develop Florida, they never had enough time to do so. It just wasn't "British", even though it belonged to Britain.
@@BS-vx8dg It wasn't Spanish either. Despite holding possession of it for 300 years, when the British took possession, it had a mere 1000 or so people there. I've seen Little League baseball games with more people. Spain really had no interest in Florida. It was too swampy and difficult.
@@Pteromandias A fair point.
They voted to join the revolution but marked the wrong box on accident so they stayed British. And so began Florida’s long history of voting faux pas.
There is a Medieval Church in Wales called Florida .
Man you should put the years Florida was in British hands, the title got me confused as hell since was Spain that hold Florida pretty much until the first Spanish American, although on the other hand maybe that was the purpose of it making people question the title and click on the video
Those were my thoughts as well. I was sitting here wondering when did Britain ever own Florida because, as far as I knew, it never did. Upon further research, it turns out that it never was in British hands since Spain ceded it to the United States in 1819, well after the Revolutionary War.
@saraross8396 1763-1784, before and during the American Revolution. It was Spanish before and after those brief 21 years, which is perhaps what's confusing everyone.
Thank You -
also, for keeping out, rejecting, dismissing Loud, Inappropriate, stupid choice, overbearing noise.
So adult, grown up and pleasantly surprising.
Being a Floridian from Pensacola I didn't even know Pensacola had once been the capital of it's own territory. I'd known that the original settlement predated St. Augustine, but doesn't really count since it was mysteriously destroyed but I'm surprised it was a capital city. Though I suppose I shouldn't be, it does have the best port in the gulf...or at least it used to until the federal government forced the city to essentially shut it down because of the Navy base there :P
Do a Documentary video on Valentines Day, St.Patricks Day, and Easter
It's now Latin America
For real. Miami might as well be its own country.
No, miami, it's not a latin american city. I live in miami, and I was born and raised in Latin America. I would know.
All those born in miami speak English predominantly.
Immigrants who came to miami at a young age also predominantly speak English.
These two groups speak English among themselves and only speak Spanish to parents, grandparents, and older immigrants who have a hard time learning English.
If the influx of new immigrants stops, miami would become a predominantly English speaking city, and Spanish would eventually die out.
On August 9th 1780, Admiral Luis de Cordova captured a massive British convoy of 55 British ships and over 3,000 prisoners many of which were about 2,000 soldier reinforcements! Cordova captured 80,000 muskets, 300 cannons and equipment enough for 40,000 troops that could have been used against American forces especially at Yorktown possibly!
This was perhaps the worst naval disaster for the British Navy!
Thank you for citing Spain's contribution to the American Revolutionary War. For some reason, it is omitted in American history classes.
@@valentinr.dominguez2892 Yes and it's very unfortunate. Spain was the very first to send the first foreign weapons for the American Revolution in February 1775 to Marblehead Massachusetts through Diego de Gardoqui! Spain paid for the Yorktown campaign paying both the French and Continental soldiers who hadn't been paid for several months and years causing several mutinees and also paid and refurbished Degrasse's French fleet allowing Degrasse to travel to both the Chesapeake and later Yorktown which Spain also had a huge role in making Yorktown happen in the military planning!
And it was Spanish General Bernardo de Gálvez who was kind and generous enough to release his own French troops under Spanish command and ALLOWED Degrasse to take them to go reinforce Rochambeau at Yorktown!
Because even way back then most people there were retired, thats crazy
They weren’t ready for Florida Man yet
Can we give Florida back?
And what happened to the British settlers?
I believe most left, but a fair number stayed
Amazing at it seems, 50,000 loyalists LEFT during the Revolution 1.0. Some to Canada. Some back to UK. Some to Bahamas and elsewhere.
@@davidb2206 I meant the BRitish settlers specifically in Florida.
@@M-J-qn8td I meant the British settlers as a whole in the colonies, all the way up the coast.
Many loyalist refugees who fled to florida went to canada or mainland britain. Florida didn’t have the infrastructure for most of them. When the spaniards took back florida, a fair number stayed because the spanish recognized british land grants and offered even more land grants to british plantation owners in florida. Zephaniah Kingsley is a good example of this
my cousin had a timeshare there back in the 80s and noticed bumper stickers with ( will the Last American out, Bring the flag ) , quite funny when you look at it now .😃
It would be the Battle of Tafalgar in 1805 that Spain as well as France lost a significant portion of their Navies, and thus Spain could not adequately defend its interest in the Caribbean as well as Florida. Americans began to cross the border into Florida as begin minor levels of insurrection.
I thought Florida was Spanish
not between 1763 & 1783.
It was
Alligators as artillery was not appreciated until immediately after the War of 1812, otherwise Florida may have had a more active role.
Aka, Florida was largely an uninhabitable swamp until c 1900. It kinda still is, it's just paved; but the land sinks and floods all the time.
Years ago, I had a young 20something co-worker who was as white and WASPy as you can get (her last name was Thompson and she was a super pale redhead with blue eyes, freckles and orange-red hair) and she claimed to be an "8th generation Floridian" (and she DID graduate from University of Florida, as had 3 generations of relatives before her). I asked her how that was possible, and she said her family were part of the British settlers in the late 18th century who came over around the time of the American Revolution. Her family was apparently pretty wealthy and established in and around north Florida. The history of Florida is deeper and more complex than many people would imagine.
As a proud Floridian, i must say that this is totally in character for us. We were just waiting, biding our time. Also... i didn't know about West Florida... that's a new claim for the Great Floridian empire
Funny, there's nothing less British than today's Florida
Eh, even with Miami most of the state still speaks English and a plurality go to British-derived churches (Baptist, Methodist, etc.), use English units, English common law, even a lot of British food, etc... Burundi and Mongolia are a lot less British
Perhaps a land that doesn’t speak English and largely operates on the basis of English law such as Habeus Corpus (as do 49 of the 50 states. LA is still under French influence to some degree. Please pray for them haha) would be less British?
IDK “Yorkshire man” and “Florida man” aren’t too different ;-)
Well there's golf
@@tinitus23 A game invented in Britain...? (Specifically, Scotland)
You did skip over the fact that General Jackson seized parts of Florida in his fight against the Indians. It was a couple of years later that Spain and the U.S. agreed to the sale of the territory to the U.S. I am sure that the seizure had nothing to do with the sale. On the bright side, Jackson did find a couple of Brits to hang during his stay. He was still a bit angry about how he was treated as a boy by the Brits during the revolution. Initially the court martial he convened opted for lesser punishments but the general told them to go and reconsider the matter. You didn't piss off Andy Jackson. At least not twice you didn't.
That was several decades after the American Revolution. Totally different topic for a different video.
That is the main subject, but he did comment on how Florida became a U.S. territory. I do not think that you can even in passing comment on that event without mentioning the invasion by Gen. Jack even in passing. The invasion was not just germane but seminal to how Florida became American. I do think that I myself alluded to the fact that there was a significant time difference between the Revolution and the invasion. Jackson did not serve as a general when he was a boy.
VERY INTERESTING
I honestly had no idea Britain controlled Florida during that time. I knew it was a Spanish colony for a long time beforehand, then it belonged to Spain in time for them to sell it to the USA, but the fact that it was owned by the British just wasn't important in my memory.
FLEX: Well, the Spanish were "slick" diplomatically...They "flipped" Cuba, Florida, and the Bahamas during 30 years...
Thanks...
Florida belong to spain
Yeah it belongs to them so much that they decided to sell it
Actually, at the time of the American Revolution, Florida was British, as Britain had been awarded Florida as part of the spoils of the Seven Years War. So for a brief time, starting in 1763, Florida belonged to the Brits, but in 1783 it was returned to Spain.
1:20 i didnt know they didnt have havana in the future,
or i was in spain on flordia in as4.
Florida is one of the better parts of the USA. I love all the Spanish language there, the beaches, the art deco, the palm trees. I didn't know this part of Florida's history. Cool.
I wish the British had kept Florida!
Spain also sent muskets to Saratoga in 1777!
Spanish weapons and cannons were sent to the American Colonies inside French ships from France! When the ships arrived everyone assumed the entire cargo was only French lol! Huge mistake but understandable.
Honestly, I still look at Florida suspiciously because of this.
Spain was the first to send the very first foreign weapons to the American Revolution through the Gardoqui family in February 1775!
Spain first then France about three months later but it was France together with Spain through the Rodriguez Hortalez company created by Spanish Louisiana Governor Luis de Unzaga and managed by Beaumarchais.
Hey, I pride myself on being knowledgeable about American history. But this video taught me something. I thought Florida was still under Spanish rule at the time of the revolution...
Even today, Florida is not too wild about democracy.
Florida man decided to remain loyal
What about the fort of mose?
Why didn't 13th Colonies help 14th Nova Socita after British defeated Nova Socita?
The Nova Scotians were making too much money building ships for England to join the the insidious insurrection.
The short secret British history of Florida!!!
The Spanish became afraid of the American Woodlands tribes after the survivors of DeSoto's Expedition made it back to Cuba. Spain devided it would be safer to only have fortified settlements along the ocean coastlines and banks of major rivers.
Florida was not so much a colony as it was a no man’s land. Yes Spain and Britain had it as a colony, but Florida was always treated more like a buffer zone for the Spanish carrebesn or a buffer for the 13 colonies and barely developed like the 13 colonies did for that very reason.
i’m keeping track of all those “other videos at another time” just so you know 😜
Florida only has chattel slavery for a short period, the spanish had a more medieval style slavery based on class than race.
to be fair, Spanish slavery may have been based on class, but class and race often were intertwined.
Like today with no talking heads on the flat screen boxes spreading divisions among the populace.
The difference then was in the Spanish world, enslaved people could legally pay their way out of their status, and many did. Others married between groups and likewise left their status behind. Enslaved people in some cases also were recorded as godparents of non enslaved. Those that joined and served in the military likewise had the option available. Not to excuse the brutality of the times, but in contrast to chattel slavery, all people were considered humans by the Spanish. There was a very unique difference between empires.
@@bixbysnyder-00 Nah..
@@bixbysnyder-00 Anglo-centrist
Born in Philadelphia an Reside in Florida, My Ancestors Fought with General Washington. In The Continental Army to gain Independence from England. I Love my adopted State, Florida.