Making CANDY with a 3D PRINTER!
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- Опубліковано 13 жов 2022
- Today I want to want to make some m&m's using a 3D printer and using a Dremel. This recipe uses a candy panner to sugar coat chocolate. This is the same method one would use to make dragees.
With Trial and Error: / withtrialerror
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War flashbacks of Claire making M&M's are coming back to me
Haha exactly, even though I miss that show I’m glad she’s happy doing what she wants
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A few things you can do to improve the strength of that shaft joint are to add a small fillet and print it at an angle so the shear force is not parallel to the layer lines of the filament. Very common problem when designing parts with a 3D printer!
You can also use a heat gun to help strengthen the part or give it a coat of some food safe resin
Absolutely this. You want to have the layer lines perpendicular to the shear force. That will probably solve all the problems with it breaking
Personally I would design it in two parts. Make a square shaft that you print lying on its side (so the layers are running along it, rather than across) that slots into the adapter plate. That way you could print without supports but also get the benefits of not shearing across the layer lines.
@Tara Collins that's a pretty good idea. It would save a toooon of material and printing time
I love the video and I’ve wanted to do this exact thing before but didn’t think of making a tumbler. Here are some suggestions if you’d like to make changes to the adapter.
The adapter is undergoing some large reaction moments in addition to severe cyclic loading. It will break in the future, but there are some things you can do to make this take longer and to reduce the impact of a failure.
First off add chamfers or fillets to remove every single sharp corner. Sharp corners concentrate stress and will make it break faster. Fillets are better, and the larger the radius the better.
The thinnest part of the adapter will almost always break first since it is the thinnest part and the furthest part away from the heavy bowl. If you design this part in way where it is removable and can be inserted into the rest of the assembly you will not need to reprint the entire thing each time it breaks.
Since the adapter is undergoing a cyclic load it will become weaker over time. I suggest printing or drilling a through hole in the center of the adapter down its length. If you can insert a steel nail or bolt in this hole you can strengthen the material considerably. This might change where the bracket breaks first, so it it up to you to decide if you’d rather keep replacing a small part or occasionally replace the whole the entire thing.
Also make your shaft radii as large as possible, 80-100% infill is the way to go
Wow, what perseverance! Great job, Flavor Lab! Thanks for the many shout-outs.
For the 3D-printed adapter, I would print it in such a way that a steel or aluminum tube could be inserted in the center. This would support the load so the plastic itself wouldn't have to. If necessary, you could epoxy the tube in place, but I think it would be fine just inserted into the adapter.
Yeah I don't see how you'd want to rely on just plastic for a load-bearing axle, an aluminum tube would be perfect for this exact purpose.
or a bolt, since they're bolting it to the bowl anyways, just run a longer bolt through the middle too. you can countersink/counterbore it so the head doesn't stick out and interfere with the mechanism
Exactly what I was thinking the whole way through.
Eu faria esse acoplador com tubo de aço sem costura parede 3mm . O setor de encaixe quadrado pode ser moldado no maçarico e a ligação na bacia basta cortar o tubo em quatro e abrir.
You definitely need to use a spray gun and probably chocolate melted with extra cacao butter. And that way you can spray fine layers. I also think it would help if the pan rotates faster.
And has some internal “fins” in the bowl to agitate the nuts as they roll around the perimeter
FDM 3D prints are usually a lot weaker in the vertical direction where the layer lines exist. Besides making it 100% infill, you could also try printing it in the other directions or use a stronger material like PC-CF.
Engineer here, @ 10:45 I had nearly this exact same problem at work a couple years back. Solved it by epoxying in a long bolt through the shaft, some washers on the ends and then tightening it down to the base. Probably still working now if I had to guess.
You should increase the wall count of your 3D prints. Infill does not add a lot of structural integrity, but 5-6 standard .4 walls will be more or less the same as 100% infill, at least for such an application
This is one of the best videos I’ve seen on UA-cam in a long time! The trials and error, failing and succeeding. I really like how you shower us this process because too many people just show us the end result and we experienced these failures.
I liked this episode a LOT. I tend to work with either the simpliest or the most standard tools available - and sometimes they're just not enough, and I have this idea of what I'd need but so far have not tried to make a tool of my own. But it needs to happen - so thanks for the inspiration!
Halfway through I forgot I was watching a video on making m&m's. Great video, really interesting to see the process to make them.
They look 100% better than M&M and teast I bet too! Well done
From my experience with 3D printing, one of the issues that comes up a lot is that the way it deposits material layer by layer leads to a bunch of fault lines parallel to the build plate, so if you’re trying to make something that can handle twisting, it’s better to orient the piece so the fault lines are not perpendicular to the axis of rotation. In this case, that would essentially mean just printing the part on its side, even if it means you’ll have to use more support material.
Or print the base and column separately.
They look so much like captain crunch
Also you need to print your 3d prints so that he layer lines are perpendicular to the direction that force will be applied to them. Otherwise your strength will be maybe only 20% of what it could be. What you were doing is the equivalent of trying to build a layer cake on its side
I think that if you wanted to do this more than a few times, that a cheap rock tumbler would work wonders
This was an awesome experiment! I really enjoyed seeing your process of trial and error. End product looked great IMO considering it was all DIY :)
I like doing peanut butter at home, and would really like to know the results of the experimente you mentioned of using different degrees of roasting to get the best results.
Printing the part horizontally can also improve the strength of the print as the layers will be printed in the direction of the shaft, thus eliminating the possibility of the shaft “peeling” away with too much sheer force.
Though printing this sideways is not the easiest and cleanest. Just something you can keep in mind when designing stuff on CAD!
Cheers
Great video; I love the spirit of invention in this one. A 3D-printed angle mount might have prevented the KitchenAid from falling over.
That’s awesome!! Great job!
Your channel is very underrated, please don't get discouraged as they're really great videos.
Thank you!
Looks like you get more chocolate on home made ones, always a bonus. 👌
something to remember about 3d printing.
nothing is more time and resource consuming than a re-print.
best to think it through, and print with a good high infill, rather than spending a few days doing 20/30/35/40% infill, then making it higher anyway
I'd put all thread or a long bolt thru the center of the shaft to support the weight. Even send it thru the bowl and bolt it all together. Love to see newcomers to 3d design & printing. Nice work.
i would probably print the center shaft with 100% infill, and maybe just reinforce it with a long bolt all the way through
You can design 3d prints for small insert like metal rods to strengthen it
Cool upload! I did a lot of soft panning (think jelly beans) for marijuana edibles - the thickness of the bowl, the speed control and the stability are all pretty important. You could 3D print a bicycle, it might get you there - but it'd suck. The shells of M&M's are Hard Panning - and that's complicated and precise - there might be 10's to 100's of thin layers comprising that shell. Getting the smooth surface especially takes some serious control of your art. Panning is fucking FUN though for sure!
I just realised you made kitchen cement mixer.
You could also try printing the adaptor on it's side, that way the layers won't have to take the full beating
This was really neat to watch, and I'm glad you shared your failures and reattempts. I probably would have tried with either a rock tumber, or putting a screw through the top of a jar, and then clamping it in the chuck of an electric drill. Of course - then I wouldn't have gained experience using a 3d printer
For the polishing step: Rock Tumbler.
great video really enjoyed this
underated channel :))
I admire thr dedication 😊
Your model requires forces in two directions but 3d printed models are not equally strong in every direction. First, the flat disc that goes against the bowl: Because of the bolts you use to attach to the bowel, the direction of print you chose is great - it's strong in that direction. Your problem is that you are shearing at the layer lines on the shaft - even at 100% infill you will get a shear at that point. I believe the ideal solution is split the model into two parts. Print the flat disc part as you do. And then print the shaft rotated long-wise on the bed (I'd still use 100% infill for this part). Provide a recess in the disc part to press / glue the shaft into. This will be much stronger. I'd recommend the book Functional Design for 3D Printing by Clifford Smyth.
"I promise this is gonna be the last time that we're gonna need to print a 3D adapter" 😂 best cooking show I know
You did an amazing job.
You got my favorite 3d printer : )
Awesome Video
Lofty pursuits (which is a very awesome and wholesome hard-candy channel by a guy name Greg and his team) also tried heir hands at candy-panning. Video's 155, 156 (and maybe later) have their version of the panning machine. It also uses the kitchenaid.
Yesss lofty pursuits making those Altoid Sours!! Seems like Flavor Lab went thru a lot of issues Greg did 😂
Was great, they had a bit more technical help behind the camera and provide quite a bit more technical data ( but less practical ) on how to make a panning machine.
This is Amazing
Thanks!
One thing that I think would be quite good if you want to keep doing DIY candy panning would be to move away from using the KitchenAid to drive it. I'd imagine a 3D-printed mount that, with the help of some rubber wheels to support the open end of the bowel, could hold it and a motor to drive it (cheap drone motor with 3D printed reduction gearing maybe? Printed gears should be fine, it's not like this is a super high torque application) at the right angle. That way, with there being no risk of the setup falling over, you could let it run unattended for hours to for example polish candy.
the setup is interesting. needs improvement but god that thing rolled up well in the end. 😁
I didn't know you were a Physicist! That's cool, I'd like to hear more about.
Could have left a hole clear through the square stud, then run a metal rod or even a bolt through it.
This is so cool
Flavor Lab? More like Flavor Machine Shop. very cool
your 3D print needs to be made so the layers are going PERPENDICULAR for that part that keeps breaking. The plastic isn't breaking across it's self, the layers are DELAMINATING. Try splitting your design down the center and printing it in 2 pieces with the orientation rotated 90 degrees.
Went from candy making to n tech toy playing. Multitasking is sexy
0:50 Oh this is gonna be good... I know it cuz ive watched Public Displays of Confections youtube channel, Lofty Pursuits, where he tried to recreate altoids sours and built one of these things himself xD
Well worth a watch, he has like five or six vids on those altoids sours and rly figures out what makes them work right
I had the same thought! In the end he was just missing the bars on the inside of the bowls to really finish it out
Definitely an interesting experiment. The investment of money, time, and effort seems a bit too steep to make this worth trying (for me), even though I do love trying to recreate my favorite treats at home. I’ll just stick with the store-bought M&Ms.
Besides,new all know that the real secret behind M&Ms are the Oompa-Loompas of Hackettstown, NJ. A species of surly little creatures with obnoxious accents that aren’t ever allowed to leave the M&M/Mars factory there. I guess they’re more like the Slurm Grunka-Lunkas.
Would you be willing to share the stl? Would love to add this to my kitchen!
Love your channel so much. Next idea: homemade Arby's Roast Beef, so it slices properly. I tried it (13 hours slow cooked) but I didn't have a meat slicer... The meat was very good but just not in a sliced form. I even made the DIY Arby's sauce recipe from the same place... it actually turned out very good as well. Cheers!
Hey Flavor Lab, I love this vid but have one question: what program did you use to model the 3D printed part. Thanks!
Chef would like your eh hem.... chocolate covered candy.
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Amazing
Great Video! Question: How do they manage to put an „m“ on every single m&m? Keeps me up at night ..
Very cool! Surprised you didn't post the STL up on thingiverse or somewhere...
I will probably do this when I get a little more time today
I believe that the candy shell is built up of alternating sugar syrup with powdered sugar.
I'm trying to make cannabis chocolate M&M's with cocoa butter. I do have a panner. It was about 450 bucks at Amazon. Does not have a blower so I will use my hair dryer. You make a lot of sensible points I will try your hints.
I'm tired of sugar. I want to make my own
"Not just any kind M&Ms, but peanut M&Ms!"
_Ruined_
Dude you should have just gotten a big ol cement drum mixer :D
Well clearly, Skittles are the next step. OR OMG, everlasting gobstoppers that change flavor every layer 😂
You should try this experiment with a dryer 😂
Gotta keep the skins on homie, the chocolate sticks to the skins far better that the naked nuts, the name brand product keeps the skins, also if you add enough nuts to roll without chocolate and add air in/out this process will be much easier
the end results are looking like "gravel" chocolate candy my mom brought me after trip in korea! it looks delicious but theres no way im going to make this lol
I wonder if a rock smoother would just be easier?
i came back to this video to let you know that a company came out with a 100 USD kitchenaid-attachable candy panner, it's from a company called SnackCoater. I bought one for myself
Interesting... Thanks for sharing!!
Before watching the rest of the video, I theorize if you somehow attached a metal mixing bowl to a drill (with adjustable speed), you would have a very cheap version of this tool...
Question can you coat the nuts with chocolate by hand?
Now make them the peanut butter version, if you dare
i would have dead ass used a drill, some wood and excessive amounts of duct tape to create the coating machine
Definitely getting your money's worth out of that printer.
Sugru is an Irish product and the word Sugru is irish for the word to play
Good video! But m&m's ain't made like that anymore :) they use molds now, they may be tossed soley for the Sugar coating
“You have an idea, you design something, you test it, it doesn’t work, then you have to adapt it, learn from your mistake… Unfortunately, failure sucks.But it is very important because you learn from your mistakes. Otherwise, you are never gonna be able to do cool stuff.”
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This video is such an accident i lov it
I thought u gonna use food spray gun?
I don't understand did you mix the gum Arabic with just dry sugar
OOOH
for the algorithm gawd
Oh, you didn't 3D print the candies themselves... a 3D printer that used edible materials would be kinda cool
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please use a dust mask and eye protection
Yeah the problem was most likely the material you were using.
12:12
I assume you are a theoretical physicist.
Haha
title is misleading, where is the 3d printed m&m reported and noted.
Why do you have a hairdryer?
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I do not like discorde can u make a telegram instead tho
Clickbait title, you are making candy >>equipment
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Why is that still a thing?
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