Honestly Nicki, these chats with Elizabeth are wonderful. Aperitivo was such a great idea on your part because it frees you to talk about anything...and today's chat about giving birth was an eye opener. Bisou to both of you. Suzi
As a retired Registered Nurse in LA area, I am appalled at the treatment you had to endure. I'm so sorry. Thank goodness all the girls were born healthy.
My sons were born in Canada in the 1970s. Nobody was allowed at the birth. I can’t remember but I think they showed me both of them and then whisked them away. I am pretty sure I had to look through a nursery window to look at them. I can’t remember. All of my sisters and I had almost no labour. With my second son my husband went out and I almost had to call an ambulance. I was only at the hospital about an hour before he was born. The next day another mother said she was mad. I arrived had a baby. Left the room and she was still there! We had a laugh about it.
This reminds me of my experience giving birth in Genova 41 years ago. The midwife told me off for speaking English to my baby saying "I don't know why you are speaking English to her , she won't understand" as if she was going to understand Italian instead!
I gave birth to a daughter in Australia a decade ago, and I’d have been only too happy to swap for Nicki’s experience. Talking to other Aussie mums, it was not a rare situation unfortunately. And I’m a very tough cookie!
@@Roslyngal I gave birth in Australia I also had a cesarean He was born at 11.30 at night Around 1am a nurse came in the room handed me my son and said he’s your baby his cring
His crying is keeping all the babies awake Than 2 days later another nurse came in and told me I should be up and walking. So there even in Australia I had bad experience.
Nicki, that's crazy that Carlo was not allowed to sleep in the private room with you, but your mum was, especially after hearing that the doctor was freely willing to expose your privates to the other husbands. How that was completely fine with the hospital and your husband could not sleep in the room with you...Just nuts. Thank you for sharing your stories. So glad you each had healthy, lovely girls. Sending love from Napa.
You have just pulled a whole international community of mothers and fathers together. Everybody is sharing their stories and now people from anywhere on earth are even sending a prayer for each other’s welfare during childbirth. Hugs to each and every one of you. Petronella.
Miss' Nicki and Elisabeth, as a male speaking on such a delicate and special part of a woman's life experience, i believe that I would just crumble to pieces if put through an archaic situation as just expressed. To be clear, the situation of not knowing the processes happening. In the end your children hide no errors (are all fit and healthy) and the two of you seem recovered from the individual events. I could and would not know how to cope with NOT being at the birth for my children... ...This is probably a primal leftover for want/needing to take care and provide. The two of you as a couple talking is just easy to take in and soak-up. Grazie Mille... ❤
I love watching both of your programs on UA-cam and am sure I would be great friends if I lived near you! 😊I’m a 60 y/o emergency room nurse in the US and my life is so different but I can escape into both of yours which is great fun! Thank you for sharing.
If you were wondering if your male audience would watch this, I can assure you this guy did. I would love to hear Skye's reaction to hearing about her birth and if she has ever heard this story.
My goodness Nicki! Your story was incredible! When I had my son 35 years ago, we knew he was in a breach position but a C section was not scheduled. My water broke early so I went in for the operation and my husband did also. My son was very tiny, 5 lbs, so we both had to stay in the hospital 5 nights. Thank God the doctor realized my son was breach because the umbilical cord was around his neck 3 times! Otherwise he would not be here today. Great talk ladies!
Learning about others' particular experiences draws us closer. Thank you so much for sharing these stories with us. 💗💗 It was so nice to see the girls after the stories!
I feel like I'm sitting with my female friends comparing our experiences of giving birth. Some were straightforward, some life threatening. What women have to go through! Childbirth remains a risky business even in this day and age. Thank God for the safe arrival of your 3 girls, and for friendships where these tales can be told, acknowledged and processed. Thank you for sharing your stories. Big hugs to both of you.
How lovely to see two close friends sharing intimate experiences. My first born is 53 this year and your recollections of your individual stories brought back vivid memories for me too. My experience was similar in many ways to Nicki’s. But the end result outweighed the horror! ❤
I have been working on my family tree for over 20 years. While the older people are still alive, somebody needs to do the family tree. Lots of great software for doing so is out there. I very much regret not having my mother and grandmothers anymore; they would have been great fonts of knowledge and very surprised who we are related to. Careful though, genealogy is addictive. Love and hugs to you all from me in New Mexico USA.
You brought a memory I had forgotten Nicki. When I gave birth to my son here in Canada 40 yrs ago,prior to going to delivery, they did shave you AND give you an enema (not sure which one I liked least...). 4 yrs later when I had my daughter they didn't do either (I was thankful). I had private rooms with my own bathroom but I too had to pay extra. My husband was allowed at the birth.
This video was awesome and very informative to those of us who have never experienced what you two went through. As an American, I feel very fortunate and grateful for our healthcare system and the hospitals.
Every experience is different! Thank you for sharing your experiences in such a comfortable and open way. Nicki, you are correct, it’s all worth it in the end! To have these beautiful children to love and adore is the true miracle! I won’t get into the nightmare of my first birth that rendered me infertile… until God miraculously healed my body 14 years later. After the first, we adopted two children. Then surprisingly had two birth children late in life. None of my births (all c-sections) were the same. Our two oldest daughters have given birth beautifully (so far, so good). All three grandchildren’s births were so very different. 4th grand baby due March 4.
How wonderful that you got your fertility back, could give two children a great life with your love, and then get two more babies! What a blessing for everybody. Many hugs for you and your family and I will send a prayer for a good delivery of your new grandbaby on March 4.
I'm so sorry that you had to go through such horrible deliveries in Italy. I sure hope things have changed because that's terrible and so traumatizing. 😢
Both of my kids were born in Chile and it was very similar to Elisabeth’s experience. With one exception: I was about to be moved to a different room to start pushing and there was a change of doctors and a young doctor came up and introduced herself to me with only her last name. And the name was Pinochet 🙊
Pinochet is not an uncommon Chilean name. I am Chilean and I have several Pinochet friends who are no relation to the president named Pinochet. And don't believe all the horror facts about him. I lived through that time, and not everything is true.
That was both very genuine and very informative and a glimpse into the at times slightly intolerant and defensive Italian culture. Then again, ( this is probably the case in many other parts of the world.
I’m glad you both had family to be with you or to advise you and that you have such wonderful children as a result! Thank you for sharing your experiences with us!!
Ladies, I celebrate the positive results of your birthing experiences - three beautiful girls. ❤ Having a similar experience to Nicki, an on-call doctor preformed an emergency C-Section. Although I was at a top US modern hospital in an affluent area and speaking in my native language, it turned out to be chaotic and dangerous because of this doctor’s unprofessional actions. After her birth, I too wasn’t able to hold our daughter for several hours. For me the nurses were lovely. One nurse reported the traumatic experience to the head of nursing - not happy with my treatment from the on-call doctor. My own doctor was upset by the handling of my emergency C-Section by this doctor. She filed a formal complaint to the hospital board. My husband felt helpless, tossed to the side, left in the dark of what was happening. Thank goodness a young nurse took it upon herself to give my husband an update because he thought something went terribly wrong. 😢 It took me years to talk about because it was a very scary experience with a formal investigation of this doctor. My baby girl is a healthy, thriving 24-year old. ❤ Modern doesn’t equate competent, compassionate, and caring. I’m happy that your mothers were there for you.❤️
Im loving these chats! The stories are interesting when you live elsewhere in the world! So happy these three beautiful girls were born and are so loved. More chats please!❤😊
This was such a lovely volg!!wow I felt like i was one of your friends sat around the table having a friends chat.Thank you for including us in your friendship group and allowing us to join you at your table.I feel honoured and loved your chat xx ❤❤❤ please more vlogs like this xx❤❤❤🎉🎉🎉🎉
Congratulations on your courage and bravery! I had already heard stories about births in Italy and I was horrified... But it was worth it for your beautiful daughters and Elizabeth 🥰❤️
It's a real pleasure to sit and listen to your stories, Nicki, Elizabeth! You are both talented communicators as well as first-rate women! I loved "sitting around the table" with you🥰! Our mother died while in Rhodes, Greece, five years ago and we thought that it was very strange that family members had to be there to care for the patient. We didn't realize it was the same elsewhere as well --- although they did have toilet paper! Thank you for this enjoyable and informative (and cosy), session!♥
Wow, I gave birth to my son in 2003 too, in Canada, Nicki, and had the polar opposite experience. I had a home birth with a midwife with no interventions and my baby was put on my chest immediately after birth. I can’t even fathom dealing with such an archaic old fashioned way of doing things!
Absolutely FASCINATING! Thank you so much for this wonderful video.. hugs to you both for such an enjoyable time! ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤ Some of it was hilarious, other parts incredibly interesting and touching.😊😊😊😊
A lovely conversation and so much better than previous. Well done Nicki, such a great connection to the UK, I follow you and love your observations, keep it going please.
You two are awesome at sharing together sharing…Thank you for inviting us in to your your beautiful friendship & life experiences…such a gift to us viewers…🌺💜🌺
Hi ladies, I really enjoyed this chat as we sat in your home Elizabeth. The view from the window was beautiful too. I do hope that you continue these get togethers in the winter when you are back in Positano Nicki, and Elizabeth isn't working on the boats. It was so interesting to hear your stories and your different experiences. Totally worth it because all three children are lovely. ❤❤❤❤❤
My darling friends who don't even know me! What a lovely conversation. I loved talking with my two sisters about our birthing experiences. I love your sharing videos ❤🧡💛💚
I love to hear your birth stories in Italy. I only know about giving birth in the US, so your stories are interesting. Please continue to tell us about your life in Italy.👶 I am a lactation consult so I would like to hear stories about breastfeeding in Italy.🧑🍼
I had two c sections both around forty years ago in the US. Here the father can come into the operating room but I didn’t get to hold the baby until after I was in recovery. C section is very different than natural but at least my husband could be there with me. They did let him go to the nursery and hold our son while I was in recovery. Good for your mother Nicki!! She is a hero!
Love listening to you two talking. It reminds me of my best friend and my late sister. Both them are/were great people. Having friends of the heart is so important.
I feel I must defend the Italian health care system from all these negative comments. I too gave birth in Italy twice, once in Pisa and once in Trieste. In 1969 and 1973, a long time ago. Neither experience was tragic, my husband was not present for either but, frankly, I wouldn't have wanted him there. I fail to see why childbirth has become a spectator sport in recent years with crowds of family present, all with cell phones in hand! Childbirth is a messy business; the woman is in a lot of pain, why would anyone would want to participate? I had a normal birth both times, long induced labor with the first, with the 2nd barely got to the hospital in time. Private room the first time, 4 bed room the second. Toilet paper available on both occasions! Perfectly treated in both instances even if with the first I spoke very little Italian and had trouble communicating. Kylie Flavel's horror story of her first son's birth dwells on the fact that a "rude nurse" did not treat her with the deference she expected given her social status. She seemingly ignores the fact that a doctor in that hospital not only saved her life when she was bleeding to death, but he managed to preserve her fertility as well. I have never seen a word of gratitude in that sense.
Its important to have a good hospital in your area especially if a tourist has an accident and needs emergency attention in the summer months or all year around very sad situation they may have been worried about the consequences regarding legal action between country medical agreements
Great sharing of experiences. I could see the emotion when you were telling your story Nicki, it's already very emotional to recount our birthing stories but when you have such distancing and difficult beginnings it's is very hard. Thanks to both of you for sharing your heartfelt stories. We know many woman have had very unnecessarily difficult and births due to treatment, hearing your stories made me feel your anguish but thankfully your kids are great and hopefully you had beautiful experiences the moment the unpleasantness was over. :)))
Incredible stories! This is one of my favorite videos you’ve made. I’ve been wondering what like motherhood was like for you. I felt like I was going through the experience with you and could picture the whole story. Thank you for sharing! ❤
Im in shock of your experience. My c-section was so personal. My husband was with me and we both held him and my husband was even asked if he wanted skin to skin. I was treated like a queen and my son did not leave my private room looking out to Table Mountain (Cape Town) at all. They even showed me how to breastfeed and bath him. Everything was so special. I wish everyone could have such an experience.
Birth experiences are so unique, and we can all relate. Some good, some bad. Was totally engrossed with both of your birth stories. I was at the table with you. Lovely, thankyou for sharing. Love from a mother of 5. Yes, it is all worth it. ❤
I'm sorry you had those experiences! So bizarre how they don't allow you to see the baby right away. I agree with Elizabeth...southern Italy has always been a little behind the rest of Italy in medicine.
I love the rapport that you and Elizabeth have together. It's almost like you are sisters more than friends. I had a horrible birthing experience in Australia, but I know mine is better than others and worse than others, no matter where you are. Glad everyone was healthy in the end. Please do more chats together, it's such a lovely way to learn about your experiences.
I'm a german lady🙋♀️ , and I love 🫶to follow you both for a long time ....and it would be nice to hear Nicky some german words she already learned.🌸🌿🌸 Love your both channels⚘️💞⚘️
Omg! Those birth stories are so out there! I’m glad everyone is healthy in spite of your treatment.. unreal. I’m shaking my head. Phew! Thanks for sharing with us!
We are blessed here in America I suppose. I had 3 sons. 1988, 1989, 1995. Cesarean, Cesarean, then natural birth with a midwife. I felt very well taken care of. Private room every time. My husband was able to be with me through the whole surgery with both. Right up by my head While the team was delivering and I was able to see and hold my babies for the first 10 minutes after birth before getting wisked away for checks. My third son was natural with a midwife. I wish I could have had the other two natural. For she was lovely. Kept me calm. I was the only person she was taking care of until baby came. Such a different experience. Sounds like someone needs to bring Italy up to modern times. So glad you’re all okay. And have beautiful girls. ❤
I am part of an Italian Polish family made up of the original 7 children and now has 46 members ( only goes down to first cousins) so every Christmas or Thanksgiving is absolutely crazy. We all bring a dish to pass, share food, stories and have so much love and respect for each other…wouldn’t change any part of it!
Oh my goodness ladies, found your personal stories so traumatic, but glad you could recall them with humour and of course, the best out come of all, 3 beautiful girls, Skye, Leni & Rosie
What a beautiful view out of that kitchen window!
Stunning, isn't it?
Honestly Nicki, these chats with Elizabeth are wonderful. Aperitivo was such a great idea on your part because it frees you to talk about anything...and today's chat about giving birth was an eye opener. Bisou to both of you. Suzi
Hi Nicki and Elizabeth thank you for such a lovely chat , please do more together ❤
Thank goodness for your mum being there, Nicki!
These sit down talks are PHENOMENAL!
You're both very good storytellers. My jaw dropped a couple of times when you were telling your story Nicki.
Mine, too!
As a retired Registered Nurse in LA area, I am appalled at the treatment you had to endure. I'm so sorry. Thank goodness all the girls were born healthy.
I got an Italian friend and told me all this about the hospital system and that was in 2014 they are due to an update 😮
I am literally crying as I hear this awful treatment Nicki. Thank god your mum was there x
My sons were born in Canada in the 1970s. Nobody was allowed at the birth. I can’t remember but I think they showed me both of them and then whisked them away. I am pretty sure I had to look through a nursery window to look at them. I can’t remember. All of my sisters and I had almost no labour. With my second son my husband went out and I almost had to call an ambulance. I was only at the hospital about an hour before he was born. The next day another mother said she was mad. I arrived had a baby. Left the room and she was still there! We had a laugh about it.
This reminds me of my experience giving birth in Genova 41 years ago. The midwife told me off for speaking English to my baby saying "I don't know why you are speaking English to her , she won't understand" as if she was going to understand Italian instead!
You can't beat stupidity!
Hilarious
Whoa!!!🤯
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As a midwife of 40+ years in Australia I am horrified at what you endured Nicki!
But Skye has been worth it 🥰
I gave birth to a daughter in Australia a decade ago, and I’d have been only too happy to swap for Nicki’s experience. Talking to other Aussie mums, it was not a rare situation unfortunately. And I’m a very tough cookie!
It’s Italy , misogynistic and catholic I guess it’s accepted .
@@Roslyngal I gave birth in Australia I also had a cesarean He was born at 11.30 at night Around 1am a nurse came in the room handed me my son and said he’s your baby his cring
His crying is keeping all the babies awake Than 2 days later another nurse came in and told me I should be up and walking. So there even in Australia I had bad experience.
Can you tell us about your weddings, please? With pictures!!!!!
Nikki isn't married.
Good chat ladies. I hope your community get that new hospital soon, it sounds most needed. Till next time 🕊💕🥰
Love your chats with Elizabeth!
Elizabeth, what a beautiful heart… going to church and lighting the candle everyday… so beautiful….
Yes and God did answer her prayer, Glory to God 🙌
Thank you girls for your lovely stories. It’s nice to know how things work in a different country. Keep up the good work.
Nicki, that's crazy that Carlo was not allowed to sleep in the private room with you, but your mum was, especially after hearing that the doctor was freely willing to expose your privates to the other husbands. How that was completely fine with the hospital and your husband could not sleep in the room with you...Just nuts. Thank you for sharing your stories. So glad you each had healthy, lovely girls. Sending love from Napa.
You have just pulled a whole international community of mothers and fathers together. Everybody is sharing their stories and now people from anywhere on earth are even sending a prayer for each other’s welfare during childbirth. Hugs to each and every one of you. Petronella.
Miss' Nicki and Elisabeth, as a male speaking on such a delicate and special part of a woman's life experience, i believe that I would just crumble to pieces if put through an archaic situation as just expressed. To be clear, the situation of not knowing the processes happening. In the end your children hide no errors (are all fit and healthy) and the two of you seem recovered from the individual events. I could and would not know how to cope with NOT being at the birth for my children... ...This is probably a primal leftover for want/needing to take care and provide. The two of you as a couple talking is just easy to take in and soak-up. Grazie Mille... ❤
What a great video !as always!i loved how you chat , so warm atmosphere and the stunning view from the windows ❤❤❤❤❤❤thank u!
❤ You guys are the best ❤ more please ❤
I love watching both of your programs on UA-cam and am sure I would be great friends if I lived near you! 😊I’m a 60 y/o emergency room nurse in the US and my life is so different but I can escape into both of yours which is great fun! Thank you for sharing.
I feel the same but I’m 65 and retired. I love escaping into your very full lives. Thank you.
Wow! I'll bet that, as an American nurse, you found these stories VERY interesting!
I agree, I think of them both like friends-I thoroughly enjoy hearing these chats.
If you were wondering if your male audience would watch this, I can assure you this guy did. I would love to hear Skye's reaction to hearing about her birth and if she has ever heard this story.
My goodness Nicki! Your story was incredible! When I had my son 35 years ago, we knew he was in a breach position but a C section was not scheduled. My water broke early so I went in for the operation and my husband did also. My son was very tiny, 5 lbs, so we both had to stay in the hospital 5 nights. Thank God the doctor realized my son was breach because the umbilical cord was around his neck 3 times! Otherwise he would not be here today. Great talk ladies!
thanks so much for whoever sent those interesting questions - and thanks a lot for the lovely funny answers ❤🙏👍🙂
Poor nicki, what an experience.. The treatment was aeful. Also Imagine being checked in a room full of people.. Glad your mother was there..
Do you not see the irony!
Those other women checked in and your mother just made it a room full of people for them because your mother was there!
You both are such lovely women and mothers. Thanks for those stories so interesting.
Learning about others' particular experiences draws us closer. Thank you so much for sharing these stories with us. 💗💗 It was so nice to see the girls after the stories!
Love Elizabeth ❤, the view is so Beautiful in the kitchen 🩵
I feel like I'm sitting with my female friends comparing our experiences of giving birth. Some were straightforward, some life threatening. What women have to go through! Childbirth remains a risky business even in this day and age.
Thank God for the safe arrival of your 3 girls, and for friendships where these tales can be told, acknowledged and processed.
Thank you for sharing your stories. Big hugs to both of you.
How lovely to see two close friends sharing intimate experiences. My first born is 53 this year and your recollections of your individual stories brought back vivid memories for me too. My experience was similar in many ways to Nicki’s. But the end result outweighed the horror! ❤
That was lovely, like sitting with friends and having a good chat. Love your channel 😊
I have been working on my family tree for over 20 years. While the older people are still alive, somebody needs to do the family tree. Lots of great software for doing so is out there. I very much regret not having my mother and grandmothers anymore; they would have been great fonts of knowledge and very surprised who we are related to. Careful though, genealogy is addictive. Love and hugs to you all from me in New Mexico USA.
Loved this chat. What a view!
Brilliant. My wife and I found this so so interesting. One of the best things we’ve seen for years. Thanks to you both for sharing.
Thank you for sharing these parts of your lives!
You brought a memory I had forgotten Nicki. When I gave birth to my son here in Canada 40 yrs ago,prior to going to delivery, they did shave you AND give you an enema (not sure which one I liked least...). 4 yrs later when I had my daughter they didn't do either (I was thankful). I had private rooms with my own bathroom but I too had to pay extra. My husband was allowed at the birth.
This was so very interestting! Thank you! God bless you both abd your families!
This video was awesome and very informative to those of us who have never experienced what you two went through.
As an American, I feel very fortunate and grateful for our healthcare system and the hospitals.
Every experience is different! Thank you for sharing your experiences in such a comfortable and open way. Nicki, you are correct, it’s all worth it in the end! To have these beautiful children to love and adore is the true miracle! I won’t get into the nightmare of my first birth that rendered me infertile… until God miraculously healed my body 14 years later. After the first, we adopted two children. Then surprisingly had two birth children late in life. None of my births (all c-sections) were the same. Our two oldest daughters have given birth beautifully (so far, so good). All three grandchildren’s births were so very different. 4th grand baby due March 4.
How wonderful that you got your fertility back, could give two children a great life with your love, and then get two more babies! What a blessing for everybody. Many hugs for you and your family and I will send a prayer for a good delivery of your new grandbaby on March 4.
@ thank you so much! My daughter is more than ready to have this baby so your prayers are appreciated greatly!
I'm so sorry that you had to go through such horrible deliveries in Italy. I sure hope things have changed because that's terrible and so traumatizing. 😢
Both of my kids were born in Chile and it was very similar to Elisabeth’s experience. With one exception: I was about to be moved to a different room to start pushing and there was a change of doctors and a young doctor came up and introduced herself to me with only her last name. And the name was Pinochet 🙊
Pinochet is not an uncommon Chilean name. I am Chilean and I have several Pinochet friends who are no relation to the president named Pinochet. And don't believe all the horror facts about him. I lived through that time, and not everything is true.
I had my daughter in Chile and never had any trouble, everything was perfect.
@@christineevans8998 I’d rather believe the facts in The Museum of Memory and Human Rights in Santiago than a complete stranger on the internet.
Fascinating stories! Thank you for sharing! 😊❤
As a mother of two sons, I very much enjoyed listening to your birth stories.
So special to be such dear friends🌻
💙from southern Utah🏜️
Ohhh….I SO enjoyed this!! You two are just great! 😍 More please!! 💞
That was both very genuine and very informative and a glimpse into the at times slightly intolerant and defensive Italian culture. Then again, ( this is probably the case in many other parts of the world.
What an interesting video! It was long but it flew by. Thank you for sharing such personal experiences. 😊
What a great episode! My jaw dropped hearing your stories, I just couldn’t imagine anything like it. Change moves slowly sometimes.
I’m glad you both had family to be with you or to advise you and that you have such wonderful children as a result! Thank you for sharing your experiences with us!!
Love!! I usually watch on my iPad but today I pulled up UA-cam on my 65” tv…it was like being at the table with you…great topics!!
Ladies, I celebrate the positive results of your birthing experiences - three beautiful girls. ❤
Having a similar experience to Nicki, an on-call doctor preformed an emergency C-Section. Although I was at a top US modern hospital in an affluent area and speaking in my native language, it turned out to be chaotic and dangerous because of this doctor’s unprofessional actions. After her birth, I too wasn’t able to hold our daughter for several hours. For me the nurses were lovely. One nurse reported the traumatic experience to the head of nursing - not happy with my treatment from the on-call doctor. My own doctor was upset by the handling of my emergency C-Section by this doctor. She filed a formal complaint to the hospital board. My husband felt helpless, tossed to the side, left in the dark of what was happening. Thank goodness a young nurse took it upon herself to give my husband an update because he thought something went terribly wrong. 😢 It took me years to talk about because it was a very scary experience with a formal investigation of this doctor. My baby girl is a healthy, thriving 24-year old. ❤
Modern doesn’t equate competent, compassionate, and caring.
I’m happy that your mothers were there for you.❤️
Im loving these chats! The stories are interesting when you live elsewhere in the world! So happy these three beautiful girls were born and are so loved. More chats please!❤😊
I had to laugh so often about your stories 😂😂😂
This was such a lovely volg!!wow I felt like i was one of your friends sat around the table having a friends chat.Thank you for including us in your friendship group and allowing us to join you at your table.I feel honoured and loved your chat xx ❤❤❤ please more vlogs like this xx❤❤❤🎉🎉🎉🎉
Congratulations on your courage and bravery! I had already heard stories about births in Italy and I was horrified... But it was worth it for your beautiful daughters and Elizabeth 🥰❤️
Great chat ladies. Learned something new
It's a real pleasure to sit and listen to your stories, Nicki, Elizabeth! You are both talented communicators as well as first-rate women! I loved "sitting around the table" with you🥰! Our mother died while in Rhodes, Greece, five years ago and we thought that it was very strange that family members had to be there to care for the patient. We didn't realize it was the same elsewhere as well --- although they did have toilet paper! Thank you for this enjoyable and informative (and cosy), session!♥
Thanks for sharing your stories.
Very interesting to hear the differences between your part of Italy and other parts of the world.
I know from experience that some Italian hospitals (south of Italy) are in need of updating, from the actual building to the care system itself😢
Wow, I gave birth to my son in 2003 too, in Canada, Nicki, and had the polar opposite experience. I had a home birth with a midwife with no interventions and my baby was put on my chest immediately after birth. I can’t even fathom dealing with such an archaic old fashioned way of doing things!
Absolutely FASCINATING! Thank you so much for this wonderful video.. hugs to you both for such an enjoyable time! ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
Some of it was hilarious, other parts incredibly interesting and touching.😊😊😊😊
Great video. You are both strong, resilient ladies. I enjoy watching your friendship and adventures together!
A lovely conversation and so much better than previous. Well done Nicki, such a great connection to the UK, I follow you and love your observations, keep it going please.
Thank you Nicki and Elisabeth 😊❤ enjoyed your conversation. Much love to both of you 🤗❤
Loved the OB stories. I’m a nurse. I found it very interesting.
Love you guys and how you make your stories so meaningful to viewers like me. Cheers!
I really enjoyed your chat! Greetings from another uk-italian with a bit of balkans background woman! 😂
Balkans background,what do you mean🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
I absolutely loved hearing your stories! Please do this again.
You two are awesome at sharing together sharing…Thank you for inviting us in to your your beautiful friendship & life experiences…such a gift to us viewers…🌺💜🌺
Hi ladies, I really enjoyed this chat as we sat in your home Elizabeth. The view from the window was beautiful too. I do hope that you continue these get togethers in the winter when you are back in Positano Nicki, and Elizabeth isn't working on the boats. It was so interesting to hear your stories and your different experiences. Totally worth it because all three children are lovely. ❤❤❤❤❤
My darling friends who don't even know me! What a lovely conversation. I loved talking with my two sisters about our birthing experiences. I love your sharing videos ❤🧡💛💚
I love to hear your birth stories in Italy. I only know about giving birth in the US, so your stories are interesting. Please continue to tell us about your life in Italy.👶 I am a lactation consult so I would like to hear stories about breastfeeding in Italy.🧑🍼
My jaw drops for birth stories
I had two c sections both around forty years ago in the US. Here the father can come into the operating room but I didn’t get to hold the baby until after I was in recovery. C section is very different than natural but at least my husband could be there with me. They did let him go to the nursery and hold our son while I was in recovery. Good for your mother Nicki!! She is a hero!
Love listening to you two talking. It reminds me of my best friend and my late sister. Both them are/were great people. Having friends of the heart is so important.
I feel I must defend the Italian health care system from all these negative comments. I too gave birth in Italy twice, once in Pisa and once in Trieste. In 1969 and 1973, a long time ago. Neither experience was tragic, my husband was not present for either but, frankly, I wouldn't have wanted him there. I fail to see why childbirth has become a spectator sport in recent years with crowds of family present, all with cell phones in hand! Childbirth is a messy business; the woman is in a lot of pain, why would anyone would want to participate? I had a normal birth both times, long induced labor with the first, with the 2nd barely got to the hospital in time. Private room the first time, 4 bed room the second. Toilet paper available on both occasions! Perfectly treated in both instances even if with the first I spoke very little Italian and had trouble communicating.
Kylie Flavel's horror story of her first son's birth dwells on the fact that a "rude nurse" did not treat her with the deference she expected given her social status. She seemingly ignores the fact that a doctor in that hospital not only saved her life when she was bleeding to death, but he managed to preserve her fertility as well. I have never seen a word of gratitude in that sense.
Social status, she’s a grifter.
Its important to have a good hospital in your area especially if a tourist has an accident and needs emergency attention in the summer months or all year around very sad situation they may have been worried about the consequences regarding legal action between country medical agreements
Great sharing of experiences. I could see the emotion when you were telling your story Nicki, it's already very emotional to recount our birthing stories but when you have such distancing and difficult beginnings it's is very hard. Thanks to both of you for sharing your heartfelt stories. We know many woman have had very unnecessarily difficult and births due to treatment, hearing your stories made me feel your anguish but thankfully your kids are great and hopefully you had beautiful experiences the moment the unpleasantness was over. :)))
Incredible stories! This is one of my favorite videos you’ve made. I’ve been wondering what like motherhood was like for you. I felt like I was going through the experience with you and could picture the whole story. Thank you for sharing! ❤
Im in shock of your experience. My c-section was so personal. My husband was with me and we both held him and my husband was even asked if he wanted skin to skin. I was treated like a queen and my son did not leave my private room looking out to Table Mountain (Cape Town) at all. They even showed me how to breastfeed and bath him. Everything was so special. I wish everyone could have such an experience.
Ohh! Your location, not having up to date infrastructure most specially hospital as you both have mentioned made the experience unique🤩
Birth experiences are so unique, and we can all relate. Some good, some bad. Was totally engrossed with both of your birth stories. I was at the table with you. Lovely, thankyou for sharing. Love from a mother of 5. Yes, it is all worth it. ❤
I'm sorry you had those experiences! So bizarre how they don't allow you to see the baby right away. I agree with Elizabeth...southern Italy has always been a little behind the rest of Italy in medicine.
I love these chats between you and Elizabeth! Such great friends! Thank you for sharing with all of us.
Love both your honesty in sharing your lives ❤❤❤
I love the rapport that you and Elizabeth have together. It's almost like you are sisters more than friends. I had a horrible birthing experience in Australia, but I know mine is better than others and worse than others, no matter where you are. Glad everyone was healthy in the end. Please do more chats together, it's such a lovely way to learn about your experiences.
Hearing Kylie Flavell’s and Sara’s (Luca) experiences of Italian hospitals this was a very interesting talk, thank you so much.
I'm a german lady🙋♀️ , and I love 🫶to follow you both for a long time ....and it would be nice to hear Nicky some german words she already learned.🌸🌿🌸
Love your both channels⚘️💞⚘️
Omg! Those birth stories are so out there! I’m glad everyone is healthy in spite of your treatment.. unreal. I’m shaking my head. Phew! Thanks for sharing with us!
Very interesting. So glad you two did this.
I loved this vlog! ❤ Another one soon please 🙏🏻
I LOVE Elizabeth ❤️ She reminds me of the story of Heidi❤
We are blessed here in America I suppose. I had 3 sons. 1988, 1989, 1995. Cesarean, Cesarean, then natural birth with a midwife. I felt very well taken care of. Private room every time. My husband was able to be with me through the whole surgery with both. Right up by my head While the team was delivering and I was able to see and hold my babies for the first 10 minutes after birth before getting wisked away for checks. My third son was natural with a midwife. I wish I could have had the other two natural. For she was lovely. Kept me calm. I was the only person she was taking care of until baby came. Such a different experience. Sounds like someone needs to bring Italy up to modern times. So glad you’re all okay. And have beautiful girls. ❤
Thanks for sharing your stories. Sweet ending.
So very much loved this video, please do more like this 💕💕
I am part of an Italian Polish family made up of the original 7 children and now has 46 members ( only goes down to first cousins) so every Christmas or Thanksgiving is absolutely crazy. We all bring a dish to pass, share food, stories and have so much love and respect for each other…wouldn’t change any part of it!
this has got to be the best video both of you have made
I 'm really enjoying these chats between you two. Also, I'm very envious of Elizabeth's corner window and view.
Hello Nicki & Elisabeth, I really enjoyed the contrast of experience between your deliveries.
Wow! Your stories are epic!
I love learning about your life there. Thank you so much for sharing ❤
Oh my goodness ladies, found your personal stories so traumatic, but glad you could recall them with humour and of course, the best out come of all, 3 beautiful girls, Skye, Leni & Rosie