Sony 24 f1.4 GM vs Samyang 24mm f1.8 AF | Detailed comparison | Astro comparison
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- Опубліковано 31 лип 2024
- In this video I'm comparing the long awaited Samyang 24mm f1.8 AF lens with the Sony 24mm f1.4 GM lens. The GM has the reputation of its night performance and perfect optical design.
Samyang claims that this 24mm lens has outstanding optical performance.
As a landscape and astrophotographer I was more than curious to test if their claim is real. Let see and find out together ;)
If you're interested in having any of these lenses I would highly recommend to watch the video.
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Thanks a bunch for the comparison and for making sample files available. Most appreciated!
Thanks a lot, appreciate your comment!
I bought the Samyang AF 24mm f1.8 FE after seeing this excellent comparison video....I'm very happy with it on my A7C. 👍👍👍
Congratulation 👏
Glad you like it, it's a real compact combo indeed.
same combo here bro 👍
I am still wondering how good samyang 24mm f1.8 is. I gonna sell my kit 28-60 and get it ^^
Thank you for this great duel! I also did not expect that both lenses would be so similar in their image. I have now ordered the Samyang and I am excited to see how it will be used, because the price is very tempting.
Thanks for your feedback Astra, glad you found it useful. I'm sure you will love using it. Happy shooting :)
What a breath of fresh air. As we're information seekers, practical comparisons from an astrophotographer, truly seals the deal. I was on the fence about Samyang/Rokinon, but their recent history into the mirrorless segment is improving. I may need to subscribe to learn more.
Thanks for your comment Doug, appreciate it. I'm always looking the tools to improve my end results. Planning to do more videos to share the knowledge.
Muy buena comparación, muy honesta y clara que es lo que estaba buscado. 10 de 10 felicitaciones
Thank you sir, great detailed comparisons, you deserve a lot more subscriber, keep up the good work
Thanks a lot buddy, appreciate your comment, I'll keep doing it, I swear I'll still improve a lot ☺️😉
Thank you very much for your interesting review on this superlative Samyang 24 mm. I bought it the last week. I'll use in for astrophotography in El Teide National Park in my home island of Tenerife in the Canary Islands.
Best regards to you László!
Thank you very much Juan, appreciate it. I'm sure you'll be very happy with this lens. Looking forward to see the results in El Teide. I used to live in Gran Canaria and loved it. Can't wait to go back for a photo shoot.
All the best Juan
Thank you for this Video. Very informative for me. Great!
Thanks fort your feedback, appreciate it.
I have the Sony 24mm GM and was considering selling it for buying the Samyang, mainly because it would fit better on my A7CII, and the minor weight. But I love the rendering of the Sony since the first picture I took. Fortunately you compare the bokeh at different appertures between this two lenses, and as I see, Sony is more pleasant. Thank you for the comparison beyond the pixel-peeping, which I'm not very interested in. I guess I'll keep the GM! Congratulations for the comparison.
Astonishing result. I am happy to buy it today... Seem good decision. Was a great comparison. Thx lot for your work.
Happy to see that. Thank you for your feedback, I'm sure you'll enjoy using this tiny lens
Complimenti per il video e la recensione.. Sembra davvero un ottimo obiettivo e sopratutto quanta differenza in soldi! Grazie ancora buona giornata!
This tiny Samyang seems like the perfect lens for my a7c. Gotta love tiny primes, especially when they are so sharp and inexpensive.
Fully agree Juan, would be a perfect addition for the A7c body
The same story here….A7C + Samyang 24 f1,8….tomorrow i go for this lens
I'm confident you cannot go wrong with it
Another new A7C owner here! Looking for a quality 24mm lens without breaking the bank. This looks great! I’m in between this one and the Sigma 24mm f1.4. Also very nice, but more expensive, around $900 and quite larger/heavier. 🤯 Decisions....
Congrats for your body.
I also tried the sigma, optically not bad at all, however AF suffers shooting against the sun and also has much weaker performance in the corners for astro. Not talking about size and weight... The sigma is heavy duty... would be way front heavy with the 7C.
Fantastic! Íve decided to get this one! Thank You!
Thanks, in glad it helped
Have you had a look at the Samyang V-AF 24mm T/1.9? Is it the same optical formulation as the 24mm f1.8AF?
Fascinating comparison. How did you recalibrate the Samyang lens and did it improve at all distances? Thank you.
Much thanks for the great, detailed comparison!
I'm actually thinking - *if I could have only ONE lens* . . .
That would be it. . . . With the very close range you can take pictures from, This would be the lens to build a new RX1R3..!
Thank you, appreciate it. Would be interesting on the Rx1 series 😉
@@laszlobella-lighthunters The Vlogger's RX1 lol :p
Nice review, thanks. It's a remarkable little lens, holding it's own against the GM. Although I'm still not clear what the M1/M2 switch is for....if anyone knows?
Great Review and comparison! The samyang is actually my favorite now, looking forward how it will work out on my A7 S II✌️ what camera did you use here?
Thanks, sorry I've missed it. I used it on the Sony 7iii
Amazing comparison! I've been struggling to choose between getting this new Samyang 24 or the 24 gm to pair with my 35 gm.
And since there were no direct comparison videos between them, I've instead waited since I felt that the Samyang might deliver on their promises of its astro capabilities. And just 'wow'! Considering how cheap it is, it's almost a crime not to at least consider buying it. Thanks a lot for producing such a great comparison video. I will order the Samyang tomorrow and I doubt that I will be disappointed.
I'm looking forward to more videos from you! And if you find something odd and/or bad with the Samyang, please share your thoughts.
Thanks a lot for your comment Marcus, appreciate it a lot. After the video I had a feeling that video production is not my desire 😅
After reading your comment, I'm already inspired to go for the next one ☺️🤗
Please update us on how it goes...
I'll do 😉
@@laszlobella-lighthunters You should I enjoyed your video a lot.
Great review. I understand you didn't have much of clear skies, but for astro tests I would exclude landscape portion and try to get a full image of the sky, so every corner of the image can be inspected
Thanks for your feedback, appreciate it. I did it also that way, did not change my conclusion at all, that is why I did not include those test images
Thank you man for this video….really!!!!!!
You're very welcome, appreciate your comment
Thanks a lot for this review! Today I'm picking up a Sony a7iii today bundled with a samyang 24mm f1.8. You just cost me 1500$
Amazing quality from samyang. You should compare the sony 35 / 1.8 against the samyang 35 / 1.8, that would be interesting to see too!
Would be interesting, I agree. Thanks for mentioning. Indeed incredible image quality, that why now I'm in serious trouble 😅
Thanks for a good review.
the star trail at the corner of the frame of Samyang, imo It is an affect of the distortion of the lens. the star is streched by that affect.
Thank you for your comment appreciate it. Indeed it could easily come from the lens distortion. It also deepens on the shooting direction. If the image corner is further away from the Pole star the trails are more likely to appear
Sorry, i might’ve missed this. But you said that you recalibrated the Samyang lens due to incorrect infinity focus? How did you do that? Via the docking station? Thank you.
Indeed, by default my copy was not perfect for infinity focus. The calibration is easy simply adjust the correct focus then press and hold the button for 3 seconds and this will become your new infinity focus. In the description there is also a video on the custom button
very interesting comparison. At f1.8 and f2, which lens has an advantage in vignetting ? and any idea how much ? I have owned the 24GM and loved it for its rendering. Tried on stars, good result even wide open, but some CA. I now have the Sony 20mm f1.8, basically no Ca, sharper.. but I kind of miss the 24mm focal length and the GM has better vignetting (which means less need to correct / increase the noise in the corners).
Thank you, appreciate your feedback.
The samyang only has the advantage in vignetting wide open. Once you stop down the GM, it has the advantage. I agree that there is some CA on the GM, however I can live with that due to the aperture advantage. I also the had the 20 1.8... Sold it after 2 weeks... For me the GM was the clear winner. On top of that I could not live with the moving/wobbling part in the 20 1.8, annoyed me every time I touched it... But that's my bad 😅
I like that the Samyang sunstar is more yellow; it gives a better impression of the sun.
Makes two of us ;-)
Which is funny because the sun is as white as it gets (technically slightly blueish, but that is not perceivable). Simple test case: snow is white, not yellow ;-)
I'm so confused. I own a Canon R6 and also Sony A74 and I need a 24mm lens for either body. Do I get the Canon RF 24mm F1.8 STM or do I get the newly released Sigma 24mm F1.4 Art for the Sony - and now the Samyung 24mm or look for a used Sony native 24mm f1.4 GM or even the Sony 20mm F1.8 G. So many choices - Thanks Steve ( Istvan ) from Canada. Mostly needed for family outings and family vlogs.
Hi Steve, I understand you're confused, considering you need to think about two different bodies. Unfortunately I have never owner Canon mirrorless body, don't count on me with that :)
For the Sony body I would go for a second hand 24gm as it's also good for investment. It's an outstanding all around lens. If you're on a budget, go for the Samyang 24mm. An extra advice: I probably would not have the same focal length for both bodies ;)
Hi, great video. Have You tried AF speed in video mode for both of those lenses?
Hi, thank you, appreciate your feedback. Yes, I've tested, there are almost identical. AF Speed is 1:1, the transition might look a little smoother to my eye on the GM.
Interesting review, thank you for doing this. We can see that from 1.4 the sony has a little more contrast. But thing is, when you do astro and show us the pictures, the GM is at 1250 is and samyang at 2000 iso. So, from your opinion, 1.8 aperture is enough compared to 1.4 to get the most of the stars? No risks to push the ISO and have some noise?
Thanks for the feedback. True story ISO counts a lot when it comes to noise and "number" of stars. Depends on your camera body. With the 7iii you can easily go up to 5-6000 without serious image degradation. IMHO this difference is manageable, if it's a 1.4 vs 2.8 battle.... Different story ;-)
Great review. It made me buy Samyang 24mm for Astrophotography which is completely new to me.
Which filter do you use for this Samyang 24mm to take Astrophotography? Or no filter?
Thank you, appreciate your feedback. Now it's new, soon it will be your main addiction ;-)
I do not use any filters for astro, only travel a lot to places with relatively low light pollution
The differences are so small, I'd really like to see the same sort of comparison with other copies of these lenses. I'm so particular I might crop out the corners on either lens. Price wise the Samyang is great. The GM lens, I like the slight difference in color cast better, if I'm seeing it correctly, a little more modern less vintage. And considered for more than just astro, I'd like it better too. It gives me a slightly superior overall impression, with the advantages of being a Sony lens on a Sony camera, but is it worth that price difference?
Very good question. I believe every person has a different answer for that. True that other aspects matter as well than astro. My opinion is that the Samyang is not 3 times worse that the Sony. If I had the GM I wouldn't downgrade. If I wouldn't have any of them, I would pick the Samyang
Cool Video!
I'm not expert but if i could make a recommendation on your video. your audio levels when you are speaking seems quite different from the rest of the video. ie from your transition music and such.
Again, I'm not an expert but as a viewer that happened to stumble on the review for the 1.8 lens.
Cheers!
Thank you for your feedback, appreciate it. Totally agree on the sound quality. I could only work with the equipment I had on hand.
Will work with more quality tools in the future ;-)
Thank you for the amazing comparison! Have you had a try the Samyang lens on crop body, for example A6000?
Thanks for your comment. Unfortunately I had no chance yet to try on apsc body. I'm pretty sure that the result would be very similar
@@laszlobella-lighthunters Thank you so much!
Kár, hogy nincs Canon fényképezőhöz. Átalakító gyűrűvel fel lehet tenni esetleg? Mi lehet asztrotájképhez a megfelelő választás Canonra? Előre is köszönöm a választ!
Melyik Canon gépről lenne szó? Saját tapasztalatból, nem tennék fel optikát átalakító gyűrűvel (hacsak nem manuál vintage optika), inkább keresnék natív alternatívát.
@@laszlobella-lighthunters 6D vagy 80D, mind a kettőt használom, de lehet váltanom kellene astro tájképekhez Sony Alpha 7 III-ra és erre a Samyang objektívre. Köszönöm a választ!
Nagyon tetszik ez az új objektív...
Tükrös vázra semmilyen módon nem tudod adoptálni. 7iii-mal iszonyatosan jó kombó, én ezt ajánlanám 😉
This lens can convince me to buy A7C. Especially it have the custom 2 function can easy switch to the control of aperture.
perfect review
Appreciate David, thanks a lot
Great video, very informative, get ng this lens too. Pity you stopped.
Thank you and appreciate your comment. Had so many challenges that I could not produce to much video content. I'll be back, now the things have settled!
Do you think this lens or a tamron 17-28 would be better suited for landscape shots in general? I would like the Sony gm but can’t afford so this is where I’m at..
If I would need a "general" lens I would go for the Tamron. If I would mainly shoot the MW and astro landscapes I would go for the Samyang. I also have a 12-24 f4 lens for the "general" landscape shots ;-)
@@laszlobella-lighthunters thank you so much for your response and review! Now if you had to pick between the tam 17-28 vs Sony 15-35 f4, what would you choose? 🧐
As I had the Sony zeiss 16-35 f4 I know exactly how amazing that lens is, I would go for that one. For general landscape f4 is more than enough, 1mm on the wide end also makes a difference. I loved the sun star the zeiss produces.
I agree, that for astro it's not the perfect lens, however you can buy an entry level star tracker ;-)
If Samyang could release a 14mm 1.8 to compete with the Sony 14mm GM lens, I would be extremely happy. Especially if they could include that “Astro button” on it. I have the Samyang 24mm 1.8, and the Samyang MF 14mm 2.8 but I don’t like their 14mm much. Been trying to save up for the Sony GM 14mm.
If they would release one, I'll compare them. I can tell you that the 14 Gm is one of the best lenses out there, will be hard to compete with. Tested against the sigma 14 1.8... there is not a lot to say
@@laszlobella-lighthunters I actually bought the Sony 14mm GM a few months back. It is a great lens, but I do wish it had a focus lock button.
Great video! I thought this lens is not for sale yet...
Thank you. It is for sale, however the stock levels are quite low.
Great video, Laszlo! What type of calibration did you do after first using to fix focus problems? Some manipulation inside sony camera or samyang dock station?
I only used the lens button to calibrate it, normally this is the only thing you have to do.
Én meg vallom őszintén, a Samyang egyre jobb. Főleg az új szeriák. A régieket én útáltam, pénzkidobás. De nem szívesen veszek ma sem, mivel az áruk miatt tulértékelik őket a tesztelők. Pedig nem hiába ilyen olcsók!!!
Szóval kérdezem én, hogyan lehet jól választani? Amikor teljesen mindegy mivel fotózol. Haza megy mindenki, és otthon a felismerhetetlenségig agyon tol mindent Photoshoppal! Én azért veszek drága holmikat, hogy minimális korrektúrával jó képeket lássak. Amiket még fényképnek nevezherünk, és nem digitálisan szerkesztett katyvasznak. Köszi a videót!
@bellalaszlo2294
Nagyon jó videó. Azthiszem segítettél dönteni.
Érdemes meg venni hozzá a docking stationt a Firmware frissitések miatt?
Nagyon köszönöm! Szerintem nem érdemes, garancia idő alatt a szerviz megoldja a frissítést!
you ar a lucky one! Your samyang Lens is far far better than my.
Really? Sad to hear that this lens also has different copies
how was the focusing sound for the samyang?
It was close to silent. In Af-c eye af it was totally silent, with Af-s spot it had a very quite sound, just like the GM
Szia! Egy ilyennel szemezek egy ideje, amit egy 1.8/45-el társítanék. Már van egy 2.8/100-as macro samyangom, ami az egyik kedvencem, így szívesen vennék a gyártótól mást, de nem láttam még az AF-es samyangok anyagminőségét élőben. Minden teszt azt mondja, hogy elég "plasztik" mindegyik. Mit gondolsz ezekről az obikról? Minden cuccomra vigyázok általában, lelkes amatőr vagyok csak. Valószínűleg nem az őserdőbe vinném őket, inkább kirándulni, nyaralni meg a tavaszi/őszi fotós sétáimhoz. Szerinted megéri beruházni ezekre ha hosszú évekre szeretném megvenni? Illetve itthon mennyi garanciát adnak rájuk? (sehol nem írják)
Szia. Azzal nem lehet vitatkozni, hogy olcsó műanyag hatású, valószínűleg egy komolyabb esést nem élne túl, bár ez mondjuk a GM optikákra is igaz :)
Szerintem ár érték minőség arányban egy kiváló optika. Ha vigyázol rá akkor főleg időtálló darab lesz.
@@bellalaszlo2294 Köszönöm!
The Sony had much creamier bokeh even at f/1.8. Otherwise both excellent. Please test the eye / face autofocus on both. Compare. Thank you.
The eye af work excellent on both lenses, honestly I could not spot any difference in stills. In video the Samyang had a little more af noise, but it was still negligible. That is why I did not dedicate a particular spot in the video
What the point of looking at the lens resolution when the video is just 1080?
It's already a good for reference for support a decision. You can pixel peep the pictures yourself 😉
Forgive the stupid question I'm about to ask but since I've never done astrophotography yet I'm trying to figure it out. Is the orange at the bottom of the photo the sun coming up just before dawn or is it just after sunset? I live in Arizona and I'm thinking of getting this lens to try to get into astrophotography. Lot's of extremely dark places in the desert out here with little to no light pollution. Great video by the way!
There is no stupid question, we all starting to learn from scratch ;)
This orange colour is light pollution. If you're shooting astro landscape, it's not enough to go to a dark spot. You'll need to consider cities, villages in your shooting direction. I would recommend this lens to start with, good bang for buck. Watch some astro videos to understand the basics (even better if you can join some workshops) then use every clear night to go out and practice ;)
@@bellalaszlo2294 thanks for the response. I live in Arizona and there's a lot of very dark places around me in the desert with very little light pollution. I'm probably going to buy this lens, although I do have the Samyang 45mm 1.8 that I might try first although I realize it's not very wide. I really do like the button and led light to automatically put it to infinity which is really cool.
@@highwayman1224 sounds great. The 45mm focal length could be an option, however then you'll need to stitch panoramas. I would recommend start with the basics then move to the next level, step by step ;)
@@highwayman1224 Just go out with a tripod and shoot shots under about 30 seconds (when star trails become very noticeable) - assuming after you've watched some how-to videos. I've gone out with an f4 and taken some fun shots. I assume you'll go south towards Patagonia, AZ.
@@charmerci I live just west of Phoenix in Buckeye. I ended up buying a Samyang 24mm 1.8 and went out to my fishing spot in Arlington and got some nice pictures. I also just got a Rokinon 14mm 2.8 so I can get more of the milky-way in the sky. Fun stuff for sure.
Thanks so much
Thank you too
Great review, but sound recording (when talking) could be better.
Thanks for the feedback, I already did some steps to improve for the next one 😉
Is there a huge difference comparing F1.4 against f1.8?
I wouldn't say negligible, but manageable. If you have the money every stop brings value. The question is always how much more you're willing to pay for the extra light. There isn't a full stop difference, ISO 1600 vs 2500.
@@laszlobella-lighthunters thanks for your honest answer.
The Sigma 24mm 1.4 weight is almost 3 times more than the samyang one this is definitely something which I'm thinking about.
Would you still take the sigma 24mm 1.4 with 665g?
I've tried the Sigma as well. Was no doubt for me to get the GM. I would not even use it at 1.4 was not really impressed with the aberrations...I would go for the Samyang
I was going for a batis 25 when I learn about this samyang...now I don't know if I should get the batis of this samy :)
I had the Batis as well. Did not compare them side by side, however by impression they are on the same level, in terms of image quality. CA is well handled on the batis, the Samyang is a touch sharper though. I wouldn't pay that much for the Batis, doesn't worth that much more
@@laszlobella-lighthunters Got the batis :), not new, used market around 700 usd is ok. I have two other batis so Why I decided that. I love it so far . Thanks
📷💪
When a guy who is on national geography says its good it has too haha
Haha, thanks, indeed when I say it I mean it ;-)
If you test the lenses on winter landscapes where there is a lot of snow, then the GM 24mm 1.4 has quite serious chromatic aberrations. But Samyangs, according to numerous reviews, having an ideal optical component, are very weak in terms of design, they often break down, just crumble into pieces in hands.
Yes, I could agree with that. It never broke in my own hand but seen pictures and stories around that. Agree with CA on the GM, it suffers a bit. Still offers better corner sharpness and a massive build.
Is this lens the same as the Samyang AF24mm f1.8 Sony FE?
Yes, it is indeed.
@@laszlobella-lighthunters Thanks. And i know you said the 24mm was designed for astrophotography, but do you know if there are any other Samyang lenses that have the infinity focus led?
For the time being this is the only lens with this feature. Hopefully they'll come out soon with other focal lengths
@@laszlobella-lighthunters 👍
Hello from Hungary my Astro Maestro friend
Hello back from Hungary as well :)
@@laszlobella-lighthunters let's get rock
This guy feels so bad after paying for his GM Lens and discovered this lens
Haha, good one, and kind of true story
Probably because he mostly tested infinity focus where the Samyang is optimised for. Astro, landscape. The GM works equally well up close, the Samyang really loses the race there. Also: colors, contrast. The latter was mentioned in the video though. Samyang does have much less focus breathing, but alas also much lower light transmission.
I can remember that you sold your GM recently. Is that means that you sticked with the Samyang at the end?
I currently sold both 😅
I will try something new and then I'll decide what to keep 😄
@@laszlobella-lighthunters what new means in your case?
@@ophoto.peterorban A new perspective (again) and the 35GM 😉
所以，三阳到现在还没有24mm F1.8的配置文件😅
I use 24 2.8 profile and I think it is good enough
Great video it's very informative, but the audio is terrible.
Thank you and I have to fully agree with you. Had my lesson, will be better for the next one 😉
You badly need a mic. Can hardly hear you. Otherwise a good video.
No doubts to get a nice mic, will have it for the next one 😉
@@bellalaszlo2294 I can recommend the Sony ECM-W2BT...It gives an amazing 200 meter range with full strereo audio, it is USB rechargeable and it has a 2 hour longer battery life than the Rode equivalent (9 hours vs 7 hours). It comes as two parts...One that slides onto the cameras hot shoe and the other is a bluetooth clip on mic. They can be used separately, or both together, and you can plug a Lavalier mic into the blutooth mic to eliminate more background audio. Sony do an optional stereo Lavalier mic specially for this purpose.
The unit on the camera transfers the audio to the camera through the hotshoe, so it is completely wireless/cordless mic option.
While you’re at it, you don’t need music throughout. Most of the time you don’t need it at all. Audio is at times more important than the video. Keep it high quality and simple! Good luck.
This or the Viltrox!?
Have not tried the Viltrox yet, based on what I've seen from the Samyang, can't imagine that the Viltrox can be better ;)
Samyang is considerably better. Dustin Abbot compares the two a bit in his review.
6:20 the Sony 23mm F1.8 GM has the purple color at the highlight area.
Indeed it also has some CA, not strong, easy to fix but it has some
how about focusing speed in daily use ?
Focusing is nearly identical both for photo and video. I could not spot any significant difference
Any updates? 😄
Currently I decided to keep the GM lens as I was carrying both of them all the time. Still holding the opinion that for the first lens I would pick the Samyang. If you have both and do not need the extra money, keep the GM 😉
voice is too low!
Thanks for the feedback, I'll work on the sound quality
1.8-on azért látszik, hogy gyengébb az élessége a Samyangnak, de ettől függetlenül nem ér 2-3x annyit a Sony.
Abszolút egyetértek. Ha nem nagyítok bele, tényleg elhanyagolható a különbség, dehát ezért vagyunk fotósok, hogy vizslassuk a pixeleket :)
Ár érték arányban abszolút nyerő a Samy
@@laszlobella-lighthunters gyorsan vettem is egyet. ;)
Gratulálok, szép fényeket hozzá :D
Ha bevetnéd éjszaka és nincs társaság, szólj ;)
@@laszlobella-lighthunters Örömmel tanulnék a mesterről. :)
Vol ++
Thank you, appreciate, now I have the tech for the better audio, coming up with more content soon!
Your audio needs to be normalized. I shouldn't have to crank my speakers up to hear you speak only to have my ears blown out from music in the same video.
A very common problem among youtubers. Hardly anybody has a clue how to balance the volume of spoken parts and background music. I mean, *no clue*.
speak up
wow, ur audio went from bad to worst
Thanks for your comment, fully agree with you. Now I have the tech for the better quality audio and I'll come up with more video content!
Would appreciate your feedback soon again!