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Laszlo Bella - Light Hunters
Приєднався 3 тра 2020
In this channel I'm sharing videos about camera gear reviews, photography tips and tutorials. Anyone is welcome who is passionate about landscape and astrophotography.
9mm vs 12mm - Brightin Star 9mm f5.6 vs Sony 12-24 f4 G - battle of the ultra-wide angle lenses
In this video I'm comparing two fantastic ultra-wide angle lenses: Brightin Star 9mm f5.6 and the Sony 12-24 f4 G. As a landscape and astrophotographer the Sony was my main go to lens and wanted to test myself if the extra 3mm justifies a new lens and if the Brigthin Star lens stands up agains the Sony lens.
The test was full of surprises, feel free to leave your comments what else would you be interested and if you also have the dilemma to go wider all the time!
You can download the RAW files for your own experiments:
drive.google.com/drive/folders/1M3LXwlEdxePyer7p-tuTaVqOf1gWgwui?usp=sharing
You can buy the lens here (you support me with buying the lens via this link, I appreciate it)
brightinstar.com/products/brightin-star-9mm-f5-6-full-frame-camera-lens-for-sony-e-nikon-z-canon-rf-l-mount?ref=ja1ca9yw
Workshops:
lighthuntersgroup.com/workshopsaroundtheworld/
Luminar Neo - what I use for editing:
skylum.evyy.net/oqPqXn
My mentor program:
lighthuntersgroup.com/developyourskillsinphotography/
Wall art:
lighthuntersgroup.com/livingspacewithwallartphotography/
My facebook account:
laszlobellalighthunters/
My Instagram account:
laszlobella.lighthunters
Thank you again Brightin Star for creating this fantastic lens I'm more then curious what will be your next surprise!
The test was full of surprises, feel free to leave your comments what else would you be interested and if you also have the dilemma to go wider all the time!
You can download the RAW files for your own experiments:
drive.google.com/drive/folders/1M3LXwlEdxePyer7p-tuTaVqOf1gWgwui?usp=sharing
You can buy the lens here (you support me with buying the lens via this link, I appreciate it)
brightinstar.com/products/brightin-star-9mm-f5-6-full-frame-camera-lens-for-sony-e-nikon-z-canon-rf-l-mount?ref=ja1ca9yw
Workshops:
lighthuntersgroup.com/workshopsaroundtheworld/
Luminar Neo - what I use for editing:
skylum.evyy.net/oqPqXn
My mentor program:
lighthuntersgroup.com/developyourskillsinphotography/
Wall art:
lighthuntersgroup.com/livingspacewithwallartphotography/
My facebook account:
laszlobellalighthunters/
My Instagram account:
laszlobella.lighthunters
Thank you again Brightin Star for creating this fantastic lens I'm more then curious what will be your next surprise!
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Sony 24 f1.4 GM vs Samyang 24mm f1.8 AF | Detailed comparison | Astro comparison
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In this video I'm comparing the long awaited Samyang 24mm f1.8 AF lens with the Sony 24mm f1.4 GM lens. The GM has the reputation of its night performance and perfect optical design. Samyang claims that this 24mm lens has outstanding optical performance. As a landscape and astrophotographer I was more than curious to test if their claim is real. Let see and find out together ;) If you're intere...
Sigma 35mm f1.2 Art vs. Sony 24mm f1.4 GM for astrophotography
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In this video I'm testing and comparing two Sony E mount lenses for astrophotography. Sony 24mm f1.4 GM vs Sigma 35mm f1.2 Art As Sigma released this f1.2 beast I wanted to know how it performs during the night as I loved using the little brother, the Sigma 35mm f1.4 art in the past. You could also read my blog about the test, where I share more about the shooting conditions. lighthuntersgroup....
Photopills tervezési bemutató
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Sziasztok! Az alábbi videóban röviden bemutatjuk, hogyan tudtok gyorsan és egyszerűen tervezni a Photopills alkalmazással. Napfelkelte, naplemenete, hold állások, Tejút és sok más. Számunkra már bizonyította rátermettségét (nem szponzorált vélemény) ;) Itt találtok róla bővebb információkat (lötölthető iOS-re és Androidra is): www.photopills.com Honlapunkon folyamatosan frissítjük a információk...
Light Hunters Group introduction
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Sziasztok! Üdvözlünk mindenkit az első vlog bejegyzés alkalmával. Szeretnénk minden videóban hasznos tippeket és információkat megosztani Veletek. Az első videó lévén, még a tanuló fázisban vagyunk, minden visszajelzést szívesen fogadunk :) Tartalomjegyzék azoknak, akik szeretik: 00:22 - Intro vége, bemutatkozás kezdete 01:58 - Kik is vagyunk, mint Light Hunters 3:43 - A mai videó fő célja (mag...
Thanks a lot for this review! Today I'm picking up a Sony a7iii today bundled with a samyang 24mm f1.8. You just cost me 1500$
With all respect, in what universe is f4 12-24 zoom a comparison point for a 9mm f5.6 prime? If all you want is super UW, then you should not have bought the Sony which shines in its versatility. Very different lenses with very distinct use cases.
Fascinating comparison. How did you recalibrate the Samyang lens and did it improve at all distances? Thank you.
Have you had a look at the Samyang V-AF 24mm T/1.9? Is it the same optical formulation as the 24mm f1.8AF?
I was interested in the 7 Artisans version until I saw that this one has the option for an ND filter. That's essential for video, so I'm more inclined to go with this lens (they're probably made at the same factory anyway).
looks good mate its a shame you cannot buy 34mm nd filters separately because nobody makes them so if you need 3 stop or 6 stop then you will need to find another hack.
I have the Sony 24mm GM and was considering selling it for buying the Samyang, mainly because it would fit better on my A7CII, and the minor weight. But I love the rendering of the Sony since the first picture I took. Fortunately you compare the bokeh at different appertures between this two lenses, and as I see, Sony is more pleasant. Thank you for the comparison beyond the pixel-peeping, which I'm not very interested in. I guess I'll keep the GM! Congratulations for the comparison.
Laszlo what size filter do you use in front the sony 12-24mm and can you use this technigue also for polarizing filters ?
Pure coincidence that I stumbled upon this video. I've literally been comparing these two lenses to figure out which one to get permanently. Thank you for this video and for going through what you'd use it for. I'm still in the beginning stages of my photography journey, but this definitely helps. I feel like I'd buy both, but knowing that the Brightin star is good at its price point helps with going with it first.
I wish you loads of pleasure with your photography journey, I'm sure you'll have so much fun. The 12-24 is a great lens, after checking my images and the focal length I've used, it was 95% at 12mm. So it was not a question for me if a wider, but great lens hits the market I'll suffer keeping the 12-24...and the day has come :D If you need any help or support, let me know ;)
@@laszlobella-lighthunters thank you for your response and kind words. I actually rented the 12 - 24 and the 16 - 35 pz F4 both of these lenses will be coming on Friday and I'm excited to test them I'm anticipating liking the 12 - 24 more because of its wider range . I'd still like to take a look at the Brighton star at some point but I'm looking more so into a zoom lens right now. I also appreciate you extending support if need be. I've taken a look at your website and plan to sign up for a session whenever I can. Keep up the great work it is what you needed and appreciated.
If you rented the 16-35 and the 12-24 you'll understand why you want to go always wider :D I had the 16-35 the Zeiss though, was a great lens, but limited creativity. I would say below 14mm you can start playing with the perspectives a lot, that is why I'm amazed how big is the difference between 12 and 9mm. Thanks again for the positive words, appreciate it a lot! Your channel is also great I was surfing there ;)
So far, I'm liking the 12 to 24 much more. I've been using both, and I feel that the 16-35 pz is too busy with everything it has on that lens. If I had to choose right now, I would definitely take the 12-24 but I'm still curious about the 9mm. You're welcome in terms of what I said. Your video seriously helped in my decision. Thanks for visiting my channel also and by the way I saw your website and will looking into booking a session in the future. I feel like I could learn a lot from it.
I wonder if the GM has coating beneficial. Seems sigma was alway less dynamic rage and washed out.
所以,三阳到现在还没有24mm F1.8的配置文件😅
I use 24 2.8 profile and I think it is good enough
Great video, Laszlo! What type of calibration did you do after first using to fix focus problems? Some manipulation inside sony camera or samyang dock station?
I only used the lens button to calibrate it, normally this is the only thing you have to do.
Great video, very informative, get ng this lens too. Pity you stopped.
Thank you and appreciate your comment. Had so many challenges that I could not produce to much video content. I'll be back, now the things have settled!
wow, ur audio went from bad to worst
Thanks for your comment, fully agree with you. Now I have the tech for the better quality audio and I'll come up with more video content! Would appreciate your feedback soon again!
speak up
@bellalaszlo2294 Nagyon jó videó. Azthiszem segítettél dönteni. Érdemes meg venni hozzá a docking stationt a Firmware frissitések miatt?
Nagyon köszönöm! Szerintem nem érdemes, garancia idő alatt a szerviz megoldja a frissítést!
If Samyang could release a 14mm 1.8 to compete with the Sony 14mm GM lens, I would be extremely happy. Especially if they could include that “Astro button” on it. I have the Samyang 24mm 1.8, and the Samyang MF 14mm 2.8 but I don’t like their 14mm much. Been trying to save up for the Sony GM 14mm.
If they would release one, I'll compare them. I can tell you that the 14 Gm is one of the best lenses out there, will be hard to compete with. Tested against the sigma 14 1.8... there is not a lot to say
@@laszlobella-lighthunters I actually bought the Sony 14mm GM a few months back. It is a great lens, but I do wish it had a focus lock button.
Nice review, thanks. It's a remarkable little lens, holding it's own against the GM. Although I'm still not clear what the M1/M2 switch is for....if anyone knows?
Thanks a bunch for the comparison and for making sample files available. Most appreciated!
Thanks a lot, appreciate your comment!
If you test the lenses on winter landscapes where there is a lot of snow, then the GM 24mm 1.4 has quite serious chromatic aberrations. But Samyangs, according to numerous reviews, having an ideal optical component, are very weak in terms of design, they often break down, just crumble into pieces in hands.
Yes, I could agree with that. It never broke in my own hand but seen pictures and stories around that. Agree with CA on the GM, it suffers a bit. Still offers better corner sharpness and a massive build.
perfect review
Appreciate David, thanks a lot
Vol ++
Thank you, appreciate, now I have the tech for the better audio, coming up with more content soon!
I'm so confused. I own a Canon R6 and also Sony A74 and I need a 24mm lens for either body. Do I get the Canon RF 24mm F1.8 STM or do I get the newly released Sigma 24mm F1.4 Art for the Sony - and now the Samyung 24mm or look for a used Sony native 24mm f1.4 GM or even the Sony 20mm F1.8 G. So many choices - Thanks Steve ( Istvan ) from Canada. Mostly needed for family outings and family vlogs.
Hi Steve, I understand you're confused, considering you need to think about two different bodies. Unfortunately I have never owner Canon mirrorless body, don't count on me with that :) For the Sony body I would go for a second hand 24gm as it's also good for investment. It's an outstanding all around lens. If you're on a budget, go for the Samyang 24mm. An extra advice: I probably would not have the same focal length for both bodies ;)
This or the Viltrox!?
Have not tried the Viltrox yet, based on what I've seen from the Samyang, can't imagine that the Viltrox can be better ;)
Samyang is considerably better. Dustin Abbot compares the two a bit in his review.
Nice video Laszio,. I think with the quality of today's camera sensors the 500 rule is too old and 400 is a better gauge. I have the 24mm GM and it's simply unreal. And I have the older Sigma 35mm 1.4 and I love this lens. The sigma ART range is top quality.
Thank you Trevor, appreciate your comment. Agreed that the 500 rule is "outdated" it only gives a good indication where to start. Agreed with all what you said, 24gm is simply out of this world, but loved all of my sigma lenses ;)
Forgive the stupid question I'm about to ask but since I've never done astrophotography yet I'm trying to figure it out. Is the orange at the bottom of the photo the sun coming up just before dawn or is it just after sunset? I live in Arizona and I'm thinking of getting this lens to try to get into astrophotography. Lot's of extremely dark places in the desert out here with little to no light pollution. Great video by the way!
There is no stupid question, we all starting to learn from scratch ;) This orange colour is light pollution. If you're shooting astro landscape, it's not enough to go to a dark spot. You'll need to consider cities, villages in your shooting direction. I would recommend this lens to start with, good bang for buck. Watch some astro videos to understand the basics (even better if you can join some workshops) then use every clear night to go out and practice ;)
@@bellalaszlo2294 thanks for the response. I live in Arizona and there's a lot of very dark places around me in the desert with very little light pollution. I'm probably going to buy this lens, although I do have the Samyang 45mm 1.8 that I might try first although I realize it's not very wide. I really do like the button and led light to automatically put it to infinity which is really cool.
@@highwayman1224 sounds great. The 45mm focal length could be an option, however then you'll need to stitch panoramas. I would recommend start with the basics then move to the next level, step by step ;)
@@highwayman1224 Just go out with a tripod and shoot shots under about 30 seconds (when star trails become very noticeable) - assuming after you've watched some how-to videos. I've gone out with an f4 and taken some fun shots. I assume you'll go south towards Patagonia, AZ.
@@charmerci I live just west of Phoenix in Buckeye. I ended up buying a Samyang 24mm 1.8 and went out to my fishing spot in Arlington and got some nice pictures. I also just got a Rokinon 14mm 2.8 so I can get more of the milky-way in the sky. Fun stuff for sure.
Any updates? 😄
Currently I decided to keep the GM lens as I was carrying both of them all the time. Still holding the opinion that for the first lens I would pick the Samyang. If you have both and do not need the extra money, keep the GM 😉
You badly need a mic. Can hardly hear you. Otherwise a good video.
No doubts to get a nice mic, will have it for the next one 😉
@@bellalaszlo2294 I can recommend the Sony ECM-W2BT...It gives an amazing 200 meter range with full strereo audio, it is USB rechargeable and it has a 2 hour longer battery life than the Rode equivalent (9 hours vs 7 hours). It comes as two parts...One that slides onto the cameras hot shoe and the other is a bluetooth clip on mic. They can be used separately, or both together, and you can plug a Lavalier mic into the blutooth mic to eliminate more background audio. Sony do an optional stereo Lavalier mic specially for this purpose. The unit on the camera transfers the audio to the camera through the hotshoe, so it is completely wireless/cordless mic option.
While you’re at it, you don’t need music throughout. Most of the time you don’t need it at all. Audio is at times more important than the video. Keep it high quality and simple! Good luck.
Én meg vallom őszintén, a Samyang egyre jobb. Főleg az új szeriák. A régieket én útáltam, pénzkidobás. De nem szívesen veszek ma sem, mivel az áruk miatt tulértékelik őket a tesztelők. Pedig nem hiába ilyen olcsók!!! Szóval kérdezem én, hogyan lehet jól választani? Amikor teljesen mindegy mivel fotózol. Haza megy mindenki, és otthon a felismerhetetlenségig agyon tol mindent Photoshoppal! Én azért veszek drága holmikat, hogy minimális korrektúrával jó képeket lássak. Amiket még fényképnek nevezherünk, és nem digitálisan szerkesztett katyvasznak. Köszi a videót!
I bought the Samyang AF 24mm f1.8 FE after seeing this excellent comparison video....I'm very happy with it on my A7C. 👍👍👍
Congratulation 👏 Glad you like it, it's a real compact combo indeed.
same combo here bro 👍
I am still wondering how good samyang 24mm f1.8 is. I gonna sell my kit 28-60 and get it ^^
Szia! Egy ilyennel szemezek egy ideje, amit egy 1.8/45-el társítanék. Már van egy 2.8/100-as macro samyangom, ami az egyik kedvencem, így szívesen vennék a gyártótól mást, de nem láttam még az AF-es samyangok anyagminőségét élőben. Minden teszt azt mondja, hogy elég "plasztik" mindegyik. Mit gondolsz ezekről az obikról? Minden cuccomra vigyázok általában, lelkes amatőr vagyok csak. Valószínűleg nem az őserdőbe vinném őket, inkább kirándulni, nyaralni meg a tavaszi/őszi fotós sétáimhoz. Szerinted megéri beruházni ezekre ha hosszú évekre szeretném megvenni? Illetve itthon mennyi garanciát adnak rájuk? (sehol nem írják)
Szia. Azzal nem lehet vitatkozni, hogy olcsó műanyag hatású, valószínűleg egy komolyabb esést nem élne túl, bár ez mondjuk a GM optikákra is igaz :) Szerintem ár érték minőség arányban egy kiváló optika. Ha vigyázol rá akkor főleg időtálló darab lesz.
@@bellalaszlo2294 Köszönöm!
Thank you for this great duel! I also did not expect that both lenses would be so similar in their image. I have now ordered the Samyang and I am excited to see how it will be used, because the price is very tempting.
Thanks for your feedback Astra, glad you found it useful. I'm sure you will love using it. Happy shooting :)
I can remember that you sold your GM recently. Is that means that you sticked with the Samyang at the end?
I currently sold both 😅 I will try something new and then I'll decide what to keep 😄
@@laszlobella-lighthunters what new means in your case?
@@ophoto.peterorban A new perspective (again) and the 35GM 😉
Your audio needs to be normalized. I shouldn't have to crank my speakers up to hear you speak only to have my ears blown out from music in the same video.
A very common problem among youtubers. Hardly anybody has a clue how to balance the volume of spoken parts and background music. I mean, *no clue*.
Astonishing result. I am happy to buy it today... Seem good decision. Was a great comparison. Thx lot for your work.
Happy to see that. Thank you for your feedback, I'm sure you'll enjoy using this tiny lens
This guy feels so bad after paying for his GM Lens and discovered this lens
Haha, good one, and kind of true story
Probably because he mostly tested infinity focus where the Samyang is optimised for. Astro, landscape. The GM works equally well up close, the Samyang really loses the race there. Also: colors, contrast. The latter was mentioned in the video though. Samyang does have much less focus breathing, but alas also much lower light transmission.
This lens can convince me to buy A7C. Especially it have the custom 2 function can easy switch to the control of aperture.
6:20 the Sony 23mm F1.8 GM has the purple color at the highlight area.
Indeed it also has some CA, not strong, easy to fix but it has some
When a guy who is on national geography says its good it has too haha
Haha, thanks, indeed when I say it I mean it ;-)
The Sony had much creamier bokeh even at f/1.8. Otherwise both excellent. Please test the eye / face autofocus on both. Compare. Thank you.
The eye af work excellent on both lenses, honestly I could not spot any difference in stills. In video the Samyang had a little more af noise, but it was still negligible. That is why I did not dedicate a particular spot in the video
Interesting review, thank you for doing this. We can see that from 1.4 the sony has a little more contrast. But thing is, when you do astro and show us the pictures, the GM is at 1250 is and samyang at 2000 iso. So, from your opinion, 1.8 aperture is enough compared to 1.4 to get the most of the stars? No risks to push the ISO and have some noise?
Thanks for the feedback. True story ISO counts a lot when it comes to noise and "number" of stars. Depends on your camera body. With the 7iii you can easily go up to 5-6000 without serious image degradation. IMHO this difference is manageable, if it's a 1.4 vs 2.8 battle.... Different story ;-)
Fantastic! Íve decided to get this one! Thank You!
Thanks, in glad it helped
Thanks so much
Thank you too
I like that the Samyang sunstar is more yellow; it gives a better impression of the sun.
Makes two of us ;-)
Which is funny because the sun is as white as it gets (technically slightly blueish, but that is not perceivable). Simple test case: snow is white, not yellow ;-)
Great review. It made me buy Samyang 24mm for Astrophotography which is completely new to me. Which filter do you use for this Samyang 24mm to take Astrophotography? Or no filter?
Thank you, appreciate your feedback. Now it's new, soon it will be your main addiction ;-) I do not use any filters for astro, only travel a lot to places with relatively low light pollution
I was going for a batis 25 when I learn about this samyang...now I don't know if I should get the batis of this samy :)
I had the Batis as well. Did not compare them side by side, however by impression they are on the same level, in terms of image quality. CA is well handled on the batis, the Samyang is a touch sharper though. I wouldn't pay that much for the Batis, doesn't worth that much more
@@laszlobella-lighthunters Got the batis :), not new, used market around 700 usd is ok. I have two other batis so Why I decided that. I love it so far . Thanks
Muy buena comparación, muy honesta y clara que es lo que estaba buscado. 10 de 10 felicitaciones
Sorry, i might’ve missed this. But you said that you recalibrated the Samyang lens due to incorrect infinity focus? How did you do that? Via the docking station? Thank you.
Indeed, by default my copy was not perfect for infinity focus. The calibration is easy simply adjust the correct focus then press and hold the button for 3 seconds and this will become your new infinity focus. In the description there is also a video on the custom button
The differences are so small, I'd really like to see the same sort of comparison with other copies of these lenses. I'm so particular I might crop out the corners on either lens. Price wise the Samyang is great. The GM lens, I like the slight difference in color cast better, if I'm seeing it correctly, a little more modern less vintage. And considered for more than just astro, I'd like it better too. It gives me a slightly superior overall impression, with the advantages of being a Sony lens on a Sony camera, but is it worth that price difference?
Very good question. I believe every person has a different answer for that. True that other aspects matter as well than astro. My opinion is that the Samyang is not 3 times worse that the Sony. If I had the GM I wouldn't downgrade. If I wouldn't have any of them, I would pick the Samyang
how about focusing speed in daily use ?
Focusing is nearly identical both for photo and video. I could not spot any significant difference