I hope these videos are stored forever, for posterity. Here I am with my 130y/o hammer gun which just broke a hammer spring, and I'm watching intently as this old, lovely guy, now dead unfortunately, makes it looks so easy to make a replacement. probably easy enough that I might try to make one myself to see if I can can compare. Thanks Larry to have organized this set of videos.
I have made springs this way for many years... I have a forge and anvil so heating stuff is very easy, although a torch will do for little springs. For those tiny sear springs in flint and percussion locks, old hacksaw blades make good stock.... baby hacksaw blades for really tiny ones and regular for the larger. Soften them first to file the teeth off. There's a knack in tempering them, but the old 'burn off the oil' has always worked well for me, as it did for the 'smith in the video. I get to do a lot for the older guns with leaf springs as many 'smiths cannot do it..... Someone else needs to learn as I am 81 now, so won't be around that much longer 🙂
I'm a Syrian gunsmith and I learned so much from these guys ..I'm so grateful for them ..honestly I bought a saint etiene double barrel shotgun and had to make a leaf spring for it I managed to do it finally ...believe it or not ..!! almost nobody in Syria could do it .! now more and more customers ask me to make leaf springs for their old shotguns ..thanks again
I can not find anyone here in Australia to make a spring like this for my shotgun. I will have to try it myself. I had the idea of cold filing a truck spring as I did not think you could re temper the steel as the carbon would burn off. Seems that you can. Now to find some spring steel.
This is the kind of knowledge that needs to be passed down . It's half art half brut strength and ignorance yet knowhow and knowledge all in one protect this man at all costs 👏
I love these videos and the basic hand tools he uses! That's really amazing if you consider how many times he's made these types of things over the years and he's still got the dexterity to do it at his age! Amazing! Plus his accent is very interesting to listen to as well!
Прекрасные и поучительные уроки мастерства для тех, кто своими руками делает все что нужно!!! Спасибо обоим мастерам. Сижу и просматриваю все их уроки!!!!!! 👍
Watching an old, old, man or woman doing the thing they've been doing for fifty or sixty years is beautiful to see--ageless and timeless. It was also enjoyable to watch this episode with out the annoying, mismatched music.
I used to thin my springs on the milling machine then form to the arc. This man is doing the same thing but, it is difficult today to spend too much time hand working springs. People today are reluctant at paying for all the handwork involved. I wonder if this man is using Sheffield spring steel; I like to use it when I can get it. I also like cryogenic heat treatment. Then another story are using spring tensionometers to get consistent results from checking spring to spring.
This is what i call Skills. Too bad this knowledge and craftmanship gets lost to the modern world based on mass production and throw away junk. I love this series! Thanks for making it! (Even thinking about subscribing to youtube premium so i can download 'm all.) :))
I have a Lefever Arms side by side that I inherrited from my grandfather, and the right side leaf spring that resets the trigger broke in half finally after being shot every year since 1940 or so. I would love to have the skill required to do this. or at least a replacement spring. XD
Mr. Larry, Greetings, I have a concern to see if it helps me a remington rifle cal. .22 Model 510 single shot, you can tailor Magazine about 12 units? for I have seen in videos that the following model remington model 511 magazine brings 6 units and is the same rifle bolt-like, I appreciate if you can give me his wise directions.
Thank you sir Mr Jake wore you are a great👍 I want to know what steel you used what grade and what oil used for spring tampering please Clare my question thank you Mr wore
Son of a Zombie Yeah, i know that Purdey Shotguns have between 600-800 craftsman hours per gun multiplied by £20-30 an hour is a fair chunk of change before u start to pay for advertising, overheads, sales staff etc....
I did some playing around and it seems doing it 2 times of burning off the oil is the magical number. 1 it was to brittle and cracked, 3 times or more it will be to soft and deform easily.
It will help even without a machine shop. It will just take way longer. After all, guns have been made for a lot longer without machine shops than with them
I remember when these videos used to be varied to support various operations across all types of weapon platforms. For a number of months now, this has been a shotgun gunsmithing channel. Disappointing. Unsubscribed.
Sheesh... "Number of months"???? Hardly. It's been a little over two weeks. Go ahead and unsubscribe. Your loss. No one here is going to miss you. They are taking advantage of the fact that they have Jack available to pass along his information. Also, you may not have been aware of this but many of the videos they have been posting over the past year are just videos that were shot several years ago whose format has been reworked. Larry is a busy guy and can't spend countless hours putting together videos for people who clearly have no patience whatsoever... Many of us really appreciate Larry and Jack taking the time to do this series. Time passes and opportunities are lost if you don't take advantage of them when you can. Some day you may learn to appreciate that. Until then, adios!
No one will miss you. These two gentlemen are passing along valuable information to future gunsmiths i.e. me! The content in this video is invaluable. And just because they have been talking about shotguns doesn't make them any less valuable. Shotguns are HUGE in the gunsmithing world, so if you don't like it, get out of here, and good riddance.
I love these videos and the basic hand tools he uses! That's really amazing if you consider how many times he's made these types of things over the years and he's still got the dexterity to do it at his age! Amazing! Plus his accent is very interesting to listen to as well!
I hope these videos are stored forever, for posterity. Here I am with my 130y/o hammer gun which just broke a hammer spring, and I'm watching intently as this old, lovely guy, now dead unfortunately, makes it looks so easy to make a replacement. probably easy enough that I might try to make one myself to see if I can can compare. Thanks Larry to have organized this set of videos.
Should be in the library of Congress
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I have made springs this way for many years... I have a forge and anvil so heating stuff is very easy, although a torch will do for little springs. For those tiny sear springs in flint and percussion locks, old hacksaw blades make good stock.... baby hacksaw blades for really tiny ones and regular for the larger. Soften them first to file the teeth off.
There's a knack in tempering them, but the old 'burn off the oil' has always worked well for me, as it did for the 'smith in the video.
I get to do a lot for the older guns with leaf springs as many 'smiths cannot do it..... Someone else needs to learn as I am 81 now, so won't be around that much longer 🙂
I'm a Syrian gunsmith and I learned so much from these guys ..I'm so grateful for them ..honestly I bought a saint etiene double barrel shotgun and had to make a leaf spring for it I managed to do it finally ...believe it or not ..!! almost nobody in Syria could do it .!
now more and more customers ask me to make leaf springs for their old shotguns ..thanks again
That's cool!
Generating cash at the same time. ;)
I can not find anyone here in Australia to make a spring like this for my shotgun. I will have to try it myself. I had the idea of cold filing a truck spring as I did not think you could re temper the steel as the carbon would burn off. Seems that you can. Now to find some spring steel.
@@harryvanhoo7235 Or an old round cirkel sawblade ;)
@@Romin.777 Thank you very much for this suggestion. Cheers
@@Romin.777 Is it good to dip the steel into well used oil, as it has a lot of carbon in it?
A library of knowledge in that room with these 2 old timers! 👍
Even a hundred years from now people will still be watching this video to learn from the great master gunsmith Jack Rowe!
This is the kind of knowledge that needs to be passed down . It's half art half brut strength and ignorance yet knowhow and knowledge all in one protect this man at all costs 👏
Even in cad softwares era.. making things by hand is the best prototype technique you can have. Make custom pieces by hand is an art.
I love these videos and the basic hand tools he uses! That's really amazing if you consider how many times he's made these types of things over the years and he's still got the dexterity to do it at his age!
Amazing! Plus his accent is very interesting to listen to as well!
jacks a gun. pardon the pun. Learned quite a few things watching him in action and I dont own a gun. Master craftsman!
British trained.
These are great tutorials Larry. Thanks for making them.
Everyone should learn this!
Прекрасные и поучительные уроки мастерства для тех, кто своими руками делает все что нужно!!! Спасибо обоим мастерам. Сижу и просматриваю все их уроки!!!!!! 👍
great to see an old British gunsmith, escaping to a certain sense of paradise.
Watching an old, old, man or woman doing the thing they've been doing for fifty or sixty years is beautiful to see--ageless and timeless.
It was also enjoyable to watch this episode with out the annoying, mismatched music.
Its Amazing yeah. Also if in comparison i feel as a kid who Is only playng toys.
I used to thin my springs on the milling machine then form to the arc. This man is doing the same thing but, it is difficult today to spend too much time hand working springs. People today are reluctant at paying for all the handwork involved. I wonder if this man is using Sheffield spring steel; I like to use it when I can get it. I also like cryogenic heat treatment. Then another story are using spring tensionometers to get consistent results from checking spring to spring.
If they don't want to pay, then stuff 'em. No free lunches.
God, I wish I could do that! It's a pleasure to see a master like him at work.
Thank you for all these very informative videos. It's a pleasure watching them.
I am watching this in mid 2024. I have springs but to strong. I now know how weaken them to accepable range. Thank you for an old but useful vidio. "
Another fantastic video! I would have however liked to have had longer to see the colour of the spring prior to quenching.
Cherry red.
Excellent video!!
They make it look so easy
+SWEmanque ; It is easy when you have been doing it for 50 years!
This is what i call Skills.
Too bad this knowledge and craftmanship gets lost to the modern world based on mass production and throw away junk.
I love this series! Thanks for making it!
(Even thinking about subscribing to youtube premium so i can download 'm all.)
:))
It’s still out there, just not shown very much.
Master Class!!!!! Truly...
Thank You Both. Class Act !
I have a Lefever Arms side by side that I inherrited from my grandfather, and the right side leaf spring that resets the trigger broke in half finally after being shot every year since 1940 or so. I would love to have the skill required to do this. or at least a replacement spring. XD
Great video. Keep them coming. A+
Brilliant as always :)
“Use enough file and never file if you can saw”
Words to live by
You know, many of the things shown in these gunsmithing videos can be utilized to repair or refurbish other things.
Great vid.. can still work a file good on him not afraid of hard graft..
Parabéns amigo Deus abençoe Voceis e família chou de umildade Mestre e bom aluno
Mr. Larry, Greetings, I have a concern to see if it helps me a remington rifle cal. .22 Model 510 single shot, you can tailor Magazine about 12 units? for I have seen in videos that the following model remington model 511 magazine brings 6 units and is the same rifle bolt-like, I appreciate if you can give me his wise directions.
Jacks cool.
نحوه کارشان بسیار زیباست
Thank you sir Mr Jake wore you are a great👍 I want to know what steel you used what grade and what oil used for spring tampering please Clare my question thank you Mr wore
I'm watching this in 2021 . April
What is the specific alloy of the metal used???
Wonderfull
Perfect ..
I can see why these type of shotguns cost what they do. Holy fuck there must be $100+ worth of work in that spring! :D
Son of a Zombie Yeah, i know that Purdey Shotguns have between 600-800 craftsman hours per gun multiplied by £20-30 an hour is a fair chunk of change before u start to pay for advertising, overheads, sales staff etc....
@@tristanjones2509 Basic Purdey Shotgun will cost you about £130,000 nowadays.
@@senseibo4401 but is best to get a pair 😂
@@tristanjones2509 Always! Mind you after 30 years making them I’ve had more than enough of them 😂
@@senseibo4401 it gets like that when you work on something for long enough :)
De que material se puede hacer esa pieza maestro indíqueme por favor, saludos desde Ecuador
What kind of touch is that?
Great vid, but needs CC.
did he heat the spring to bright red before dip into the Oil ?
he did the first time to harden it then the 2 times after that he held in the flame till the oil on the part caught fire then re-dip for tempering.
When he was quenching in oil and burning it off, how did he know when it was enough times?
@Randy C It is called "experience " He can tell the temp. of the metal by the color of it.Old timers like him are priceless.
I did some playing around and it seems doing it 2 times of burning off the oil is the magical number. 1 it was to brittle and cracked, 3 times or more it will be to soft and deform easily.
He didn't get the " use enough file " joke. Stay away from those other file jokes.😮
These videos are amazing, though I'm having a hard time hearing him.
mandolinman2006 That's because he speaks ENGLISH!
Woooooow
Audio isn´t the best in this episode :-(
What is that liquid you use to put that hot leaf spring
Oil
Which oil?
Definitely not a two-pound a day Man. Yup.
Time and skill aren't going to help you much without a machine shop available.
It will help even without a machine shop. It will just take way longer. After all, guns have been made for a lot longer without machine shops than with them
I remember when these videos used to be varied to support various operations across all types of weapon platforms. For a number of months now, this has been a shotgun gunsmithing channel. Disappointing. Unsubscribed.
They are doing a series. It won't last forever. It's also good general information.
Sheesh... "Number of months"???? Hardly. It's been a little over two weeks. Go ahead and unsubscribe. Your loss. No one here is going to miss you. They are taking advantage of the fact that they have Jack available to pass along his information. Also, you may not have been aware of this but many of the videos they have been posting over the past year are just videos that were shot several years ago whose format has been reworked. Larry is a busy guy and can't spend countless hours putting together videos for people who clearly have no patience whatsoever... Many of us really appreciate Larry and Jack taking the time to do this series. Time passes and opportunities are lost if you don't take advantage of them when you can. Some day you may learn to appreciate that. Until then, adios!
Good riddance. Nobody cares.
No one will miss you. These two gentlemen are passing along valuable information to future gunsmiths i.e. me! The content in this video is invaluable. And just because they have been talking about shotguns doesn't make them any less valuable. Shotguns are HUGE in the gunsmithing world, so if you don't like it, get out of here, and good riddance.
"Well bye" "Smell that, smells like somebody died."
I love these videos and the basic hand tools he uses! That's really amazing if you consider how many times he's made these types of things over the years and he's still got the dexterity to do it at his age!
Amazing! Plus his accent is very interesting to listen to as well!
I'm watching this in 2021 . April